Snapped: Women Who Murder

Neal Zumberge

43 min
Jan 4, 20264 months ago
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Summary

This episode of Snapped examines the murder of Todd Stevens by neighbor Neal Zumberg in New Brighton, Minnesota, stemming from a years-long feud over deer feeding that escalated into violence. The case explores how a neighborhood dispute over wildlife management, Lyme disease fears, and escalating harassment culminated in a fatal shooting, with Neal claiming self-defense while evidence suggested premeditation.

Insights
  • Long-standing neighborhood disputes can escalate dramatically when one party becomes fixated on a grievance and feels powerless, particularly when authorities cannot or will not intervene in civil matters
  • Law enforcement response to repeated calls from the same addresses (44 times over 9 years) may indicate systemic failure to de-escalate or mediate underlying conflicts before they turn violent
  • Defendants may make shocking courtroom admissions (Neal's confession about lying regarding lip-reading ability) that contradict their trial testimony, suggesting desperation or psychological breakdown
  • Video evidence, even when grainy, can be critical in establishing premeditation and contradicting self-defense claims when analyzed frame-by-frame for behavioral patterns
  • Restraining orders and legal interventions may provide temporary relief but cannot address the underlying psychological fixation that drives obsessive behavior in neighbor disputes
Trends
Escalation of civil disputes into violent crime when legal system cannot provide remedies for non-criminal conductRole of health-related fears (Lyme disease) in fueling neighborhood conflicts and blame attributionInadequate police response protocols for repeat-call addresses and failure to recognize patterns of harassment escalationUse of surveillance video technology as critical evidence in establishing premeditation and contradicting defendant narrativesPsychological fixation and loss of employment as catalysts for violent action in neighbor disputesSpousal involvement in violent crimes and difficulty proving aiding-and-abetting charges without direct evidenceCourtroom confessions and recantations as indicators of defendant psychological state and trial strategy failures
Topics
Neighbor Dispute Escalation and ViolenceRestraining Orders and Civil RemediesLyme Disease and Tick-Borne Illness FearsWildlife Management and Deer Feeding OrdinancesPolice Response to Repeat Domestic CallsSelf-Defense Claims in Murder CasesPremeditation and First-Degree Murder ProsecutionAiding and Abetting Charges and Spousal InvolvementSurveillance Video Evidence in Criminal TrialsLip-Reading Ability and Witness CredibilityHarassment Patterns and Psychological FixationMandatory Life Sentences Without ParoleCriminal Defense Costs and Asset LiquidationJury Deliberation and Verdict DeterminationCourtroom Admissions and Perjury
People
Todd Stevens
46-year-old victim shot and killed by neighbor Neal Zumberg; lifelong New Brighton resident and outdoorsman
Jennifer Cleven
Todd Stevens' long-term partner; survived shooting with serious injuries; key prosecution witness
Neal Zumberg
Defendant who shot and killed Todd Stevens; claimed self-defense but later admitted to lying under oath
Paula Zumberg
Neal's wife; charged with aiding and abetting but acquitted; allegedly encouraged shooting during incident
Jacob Zumberg
Neal and Paula's son; arrested for assault after confronting Jennifer and Todd at a bar
Ryan
Jennifer's son; friendship with Jacob Zumberg was forbidden by Neal, initiating the feud
Quotes
"I told you he was going to do this. I told you this would happen. You didn't help us."
Jennifer ClevenAfter being shot and learning of Todd's death
"This is all about deer basically. Deer and I'm s***."
Neal ZumbergDuring police interrogation
"The only way this situation was going to end was with one of them killing the other."
Investigator/NarratorAnalysis of escalation pattern
"I don't forgive you. I never forgive you and I hope you're right in hell."
Jennifer ClevenAt Neal's sentencing
"This was not a whoopsy, this was intentional."
ProsecutorClosing argument regarding multiple trigger pulls
Full Transcript
A Minnesota couple becomes the target of a shooting on their own front lawn. Police, don't know if the shooter is still a threat to the neighborhood, so they're very cautious. He was absolutely refusing to surrender himself to the local police. They were at a new bright police, they were about to coup. He had taken a stand that new bright police were somehow to blame. The investigation reveals a turbulent history between two neighbors. This was a feud that had been percolating for several years. There was a lot of hate there, there was a lot of anger. They began finding animal parts and animals in their driveway. It was sort of a head-filled McCoy's, if you will. But who was the real instigator in this feud that resulted in cold blooded murder? I got the shot and I'll say five, they were like this. She kept on shooting, shooting, shooting. They just escalated as they both felt the need to exert control over the situation. The only way this situation was going to end was with one of them killing the other. He was getting closer to snapping. The suburb of New Brighton is known as one of the best places to live in Minnesota. It is a suburb just north of St. Paul, Minnesota. Lots of families, lots of schools, lots of parks. Just a really good neighborhood. It's an area where people go to escape the hectic life of the inner city. But on the evening of May 5, 2014, this peaceful area becomes the scene of a terrifying crime. 9 Mamamomorger Merchant Cries. The name of this shot, both of us. Hello. I need to ambulance. I did shot you. CZ of KTQ. I'm tired. I'm really. The 911 call came in from a woman. Her name was Jennifer Damro, Clevver. And she reported that she and her partner Todd Stevens had just been shot by their neighbor. Is the other person is he awake? I can't allow through my choobee. I can't even lay in front of the house. She's laying down on Todd. Yes, sir. Okay. As officers race to the scene, 9-1-1 operators keep Jennifer on the line. Where are you, kid? I ain't lying, God. I don't know what I'm talking about. I can't believe it. I'm worried about Todd. It's a KTQ, kiddo. All right, well, that's the line. I need to worry about you, okay? Find a clean drive while they're tall and put pressure on wherever you're bleeding, okay? I'm gonna die. I'm gonna die, I'm gonna die, I'm gonna die. Tell this coming. Where is the person who did this? Did he run? Did he leave? That's true. Jennifer, listen. Maybe to know who's the name of the person that did this. Neil Zumburg. She explains that Neil Zumburg is their neighbor across the street. God, I'm gonna straighten you all in, I'm gonna f*** this guy. I'm gonna shoot and shot five times in my pocket. I called you guys 100 times. You've never done nothing to him. Oh, my God. I told you guys he was gonna kill us. New Brighton police officers arrive at the address and find Jennifer's partner Todd Stevens lying in the front yard bleeding and unconscious. But they find themselves in a dangerous situation. They don't know if the shooter is still a threat to them or a threat to the victims or a threat to the neighborhood. So they're very cautious. The urgent matter at hand is getting first aid to the victim who is in the front yard. That was difficult to do because there was still an ongoing threat from the suspect house. Officers barricade themselves behind a car with assault rifles while an EMT tries first to save Todd's life while waiting for backup. There was a gunshot wound to his face. There were a few others who is armed that they could see, but many of the ones were actually covered by his clothes. And so I don't believe it was apparent immediately how many gunshot wounds Todd suffered. Is he dead? Is he dead, please? You're the shadow of the house. Help him out. I'm shot too. I'm talking to him. You want to f***ing protect me? They do start rendering aid and trying to give him CPR, but that did not last more than a minute or two. It was very apparent that he was no longer alive. 46-year-old Todd Stevens was a lifelong resident of New Brighton. He grew up there with his family and like many in the area saw no reason to ever leave. While it is a suburb of a major metropolitan city, there is a lot of nature, there's a nature path right by this neighborhood. And so there was a lot of wildlife in the area and Todd really enjoyed that. He was an outdoorsman, he was like, you go hunting, you know, do all sorts of stuff outdoors. The only thing Todd loved more than the area's wildlife was its people. I met Todd around 2006. The guy would do anything for anybody, anytime. You know, if somebody he just met said I need help this weekend, Todd would be over there to help him. He's my dad's best friend, you know, so it's always over, always hanging out. You wouldn't make you laugh, that's for sure. I mean, especially as a young kid, I really loved him. He was more like an uncle figured him in, you know. For most of his adult life, Todd worked physically demanding jobs. He'd started out in construction, but before long, Todd decided to make a switch to short haul trucking. We worked for the same company. We were route drivers delivering restaurants and hospitals, their food. Todd loved his job, loved the people he delivered to, they loved him. Todd was also dedicated to his longtime partner, Jennifer Cleven. A single mother, Jennifer and her young son Ryan met Todd in 1996 through mutual connections. She had come up from Texas at some point to visit, ended up staying. They quickly fell for each other, and Todd invited Jennifer and her son to live with him. Todd treated Ryan like he was his own, teaching him how to camp and hunt. And for the next 18 years, Todd and Jennifer seemed like the perfect couple. Although she and Todd weren't married, they had been partners for a long time. Todd and Jennifer always took care of each other, and I think they loved it the way they were. They were always calling each other and contact with each other and knowing what's going on. They were happy with each other. Todd had lived in this neighborhood his entire life, and he really liked it and enjoyed it. He was social with many of the neighbors. They all described him as kind and helpful. He was a jokester, and I think people loved to bottom because he was having fun and talking and joking around. And in 1997, new neighbors Neil and Paula Zumber, again, their three children, moved in across the street. Jennifer and Son and Neil and Paula's children were actually pretty good friends for a while. And the neighbors were pretty friendly with one another. They had family gatherings together, and their kids hung out together. But in 2002, the neighborly relationship began to turn sour when Neil suddenly forbade his son Jacob from visiting Jennifer's son, Ryan. The neighbors talked about how he taught. We liked to drink, and he would get a little loud and rowdy sometimes, but no one had any problems with him. It sort of began to fray over time period over years. With the Zumbergs concerned about what was happening inside Jennifer and Todd's house, specifically Todd's drinking, the behavior that probably is kind of a problem. And where things deteriorated. For the first time, Todd found himself at odds with a neighbor. And now, after nearly a decade of tension, the feud has escalated to a shooting in their front yard. Less than 10 minutes after Jennifer called 911, Todd has been pronounced dead. Medics find Jennifer in the living room. It's a significant gunshot injuries and required hospitalization. Jennifer was obviously upset and angry. She's telling them, I told you he was going to do this. I told you this would happen. You didn't help us. Coming up. Police engage in tense negotiations. I'm not threatening to the new right in place. And investigators learn about the start of a deadly feud and claims of self-defense. The harder he pushed, the harder Todd Stevens pushed back. In the aftermath of a shooting that claimed the life of 46-year-old Todd Stevens, Minnesota police find themselves in a standoff with the alleged gunman, Neil Zumburg. They are quickly joined by over 20 officers from multiple agencies, including the Ramsey County Sheriff's Department and the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension. It was a very tense situation for law enforcement. They knew they had two gunshot victims. One was dead. The shooter was in his own home. They needed to set up a perimeter. They didn't know how this situation was going to result. When police show up at the scene, it has the potential to either comment down or escalate the situation. With an individual like Neil Zumburg, there's a high potential that there's going to be a violent altercation, because he sees himself as someone who needs to win. A SWAT team secures the area, but before police can make contact with Neil, he surprises them by calling 911. 911, march your emergency. It's a much shot outside by halls. Okay, we need to be in the ambulance. I'm sure they do. I'm not going to shoot the police. They can go help the guys. Are you the one that did the shooting? I'm not going to see anything. Is there anybody else in the house with you? No, my wife has never do it. I told her to get there a lot of the house. They didn't know if there was going to be more gunfire. They were kind of preparing for both situations. Should Neil open fire again and also coming up with a plan to get him into custody. I'm not surrendering to the move right. Please. Okay, where's the gun that's in the house right now? What's the difference with that man? Because I just want to make sure officers know so that it doesn't endanger you. So well, you don't care about me. I hear. We don't want anything to happen to you. I'm not going to shoot at the police. I'm not surrendering to the new bright police. They're going to watch a cook. The fact that he was making demands provided, I think responding law enforcement officers with a hinge of discomfort. What are we getting ourselves into here? Okay, so who would you surrender to? I don't know, Brampton County Sheriff. So you will surrender to a Rampton County Sheriff? Yeah, I don't want the new bright police to come to us. I don't want to do a kick-to-hull out of me. He had taken a stand at New Bright Police where it's somehow to blame. So what was going on? Neil had a lot of distrust and disliked for the new bright police department. And I think he also, to a large extent, blamed them for the situation escalating to this point. Like gunshot victim Jennifer Cleven, Neil accuses them of ignoring problems between the two families. Every new bright police officer probably knew both these families, based upon the last decade or so of what I would describe as a tumultuous relationship. Sort of had filled them a coyes, if you will. Neil and the Zumbur Recall School felt like they had made reports about Todd and Jennifer's conduct that they did not feel were resolved to their satisfaction. This wasn't a one-off argument where somebody lost their temper. This was a feud that had been sort of percolating for several years. Eventually, Neil agrees to turn himself over to local sheriffs. It took, I think, approximately 30 minutes to negotiate him leaving the house. In the scene, calms down and we're able to process and try to figure out forensically what happened here. This was not much of a food on it. Neil was the shooter getting him into custody, trying to interview him, to get his side of the story, and then processing the scene were the primary goals initially. They found the four shotgun cartridges outside of Neil's home. And then inside the home, police found the murder weapon, which was a 12-gauge shotgun. In the area where Neil's side, he'd left it. The shotgun is a browning semi-automatic, capable of holding four rounds plus another in the chamber. The damage to Todd and Jennifer's home indicates just how lethal the weapon can be. He was firing a triple-out buck with, I believe, eight pellets per round. If you did the math, there was probably 32 or close to that as many holes in that house. And in the ones that weren't counted in the house, or didn't blow out windows, or front screens, there were those sort of things where it probably lies into the decedent and or the victim in this case. Todd Stevens remained at the scene for several hours, so that we could document specifically the scene. While Neil is being processed and charged with second-degree murder and attempted murder, investigators check on Jennifer at the hospital. Jennifer had a through and through gunshot wound to the side of her abdomen. She had the significant injuries that required hospitalization. They weren't fatal, but they were significant. After receiving treatment for her wounds, police are hoping she can tell them exactly what happened that day. But first, they have to deliver some heartbreaking news. I'm very sorry. It's time, Dad. I'm sorry he has passed away. I'm sorry. I'm very sorry. I don't know what's going on. When she recovers, Jennifer tells detectives how they're fueued with Neil's humburt. The victim's mother got started. How many years have you been neighbors? I'm about 15, 15, 17 years. Jennifer says, after the Zumburgs forbade their son from being friends with her then 14-year-old son Ryan, he decided to move back to Texas to live with his biological father. As empty nesters, Jennifer and Todd took up a new hobby. Todd Jennifer really liked to see deer, so they enjoyed when they would come by. Todd was an animal lover, you know. Even though he went hunting and stuff, he never cared if he shot anything. Todd's deer feeder was a PVC pipe that he filled with corn. Deer really liked corn. All bird seed actually. They'll kind of eat anything in your guard. Jennifer says that's when their problems really began. You know what this is about? Because we feed deer as he needs to live more and again. But investigators still have another side to hear from. He felt he needed to respond from his perspective. He was doing what he had been pressed to do. There's just a lot of a visceral anger, both directions. Neil, Biscuit said I couldn't take it anymore. They'd never anticipated that it was going to escalate to this point. How did this happen? While officers process Neil Sumber at the station, detectives in New Brighton, Minnesota are continuing to gather a statement from his neighbor, Jennifer Cleven, whose feud with Neil left her seriously injured and her partner dead of a gunshot wound. Always have problems like that before now. I have been in it for 17 years. You always have problems like that. Neil was very upset. He claimed that because Todd and Jennifer fed the deer, there was an increased presence of deer in the neighborhood. He felt that that was a threat to the safety and welfare of the neighborhood. Neil feared that the deer would bring infected bugs to the area. Lime disease is passed on by ticks, typically carried by deer. When a tick-carrying lime disease bites a human, they can be sick for a long period of time. It can affect their general responsiveness. They become very lethargic. They can become physically ill for long periods of time. But Jennifer and Todd both felt that there was their right to feed deer. They were not going to back away from it. In 2012, Neil started complaining to local officials. Neil complained to the city in New Brighton about this. That's not incongruant with any ordinances or laws. So they didn't take any action. That's a pretty insignificant complaint. And there really is nothing for the police to do about it. But he was not going to let go of it. Tension between the neighbors continued to rise. And months later, Neil claimed his fears became reality. He said that he and his dog both got lime disease from the ticks that the deer carried. That Todd and Jennifer were luring into the neighborhood. Neil claimed that he had to take reduced hours at work because of his lime disease. Ultimately, Neil lost his job. He ended up being stuck at home. Now the anger becomes completely focused on the neighbor. It seemed like Neil had become very fixated on Todd and Jennifer. And he blamed them for his inability to find a job. He blamed them for getting lime disease. He blamed them for a lot of the problems in his life. Jennifer says in March 2012, something happened that foreshadowed the violence to come. Todd Stevens and Jennifer Clevver began finding animal parts and animals in their driveway. I hear like a wrong. There's beds rolling. Dead bird fire. Addered by two-week fire. Hello, the deer. I remember going over to pick up Todd to go for a wheel and pulling his yard. There's two dead deer laying in his front yard that somebody shot and killed in his front yard in the middle of the night. It's just strange that nobody else had dead animals throwing in their front yard. It was upsetting to Todd and Jennifer as well as the neighbors. Todd and Jennifer made a report. They suspected that Neil was the one who killed those animals and put them there, either as a sign or as a threat. The disturbing incidents continued over a period of six months. Jennifer and Todd made reports to the Department of Natural Resources but Neil denied the accusations. Think about the craziness of this that someone's killed an animal and put it in your yard to threaten you. I got 14 years of life. I never really had all the time to meet. They were hoping to catch Neil putting these dead animals in their yard. Neil was very aware of the fact that Todd and Jennifer had put cameras up in their yard and that is one of the behaviors stopped. In October of 2012, Neil pleaded his case against the deer feeder to the entire neighborhood. He circulated a letter, he zeroxed several copies of the same correspondence and fanned it out among the neighborhood. Neil talked in this letter about Todd but he referred to him as Mr. Corn and talked about how Todd was feeding the deer and how dangerous it was. From Neil's perspective, he saw this as possibly generating support for his beliefs. The truth is from the neighbor's perspective, it simply made it look like he was getting closer to snapping. At one point, Neil even put up a sign in their yard, come watch the deer eat, come watch the deer poop, talking about the absurdity of feeding animals and having them in their yard. I think that there was a conflict in personality and it just escalated as they both felt the need to exert control over the situation. The harder he pushed, the harder Todd Stevens pushed back. These guys called the cops on each other multiple times and the cops came to the neighborhood. In the nine years before the shooting, law enforcement responded to calls from both houses 44 times. I told the cops and said he didn't tell me. Under time it's not fair. We can't do anything about it. That's not going to reshagre our list of questions. That's the one front of the dog by Coltore. He said I'm scared of him. A little more than a year before the shooting. The court found that Neil had engaged in a pattern of harassing conduct against Jennifer and that a court order was necessary for her safety. Jennifer got her restraining order against Neil in 2013. The restraining order cooled things down for a while, but a week before the shooting, an incident seemed to reignite Neil's rage. Todd and Jennifer were at the bar in Spring Lake Park, Minnesota, which was a neighboring suburb. And they were there having some drinks in Plain Bingo. Also at the bar was Jacob Sumberd, Paula and Neil's son. And at the bar, Jennifer reported that Jacob confronted her and Todd. My dad is dying of wine for me because of you. I said, Chase, he's not dying of wine. He's even walking up the mill in trouble. He's helping her in the lion. He walks his dog from the bottom of the bay. So he started screaming in everything and they kicked Jacob out. And then with the fourth, Jacob left and came over and he shook him back and he came over and said I'm going to kill you all and bring your house down. And some way Jacob saw his way of supporting his father. I feel like Dad's frustration had carried over onto his son. Jennifer says she immediately reported it to police who issued an arrest warrant. The police did go to Paula and Neil's home to try to locate and interview Jacob about what happened at the bar. Paula got very upset and kicked the police out of her house and told them to leave. So they issued the pickup and hold warrant for him. A week later on May 5th, she spotted Jacob at a restaurant and called authorities. Jacob was arrested and charged with assault. When Jennifer returned home around 8.30 p.m., Paula Zumberg was there waiting. Jacob's arrest was perhaps the straw that may have broken the camel's back. And I was walking up to Paula. The wife said, walk now. She took my son and gel. I said, Paula, I said, what's the problem? I heard her telling Yachton, he said, he's trying to go back to Amy's. And I said, no, he's not. He's trying to keep. And according to Jennifer, Paula was no innocent bystander. And Paula told us Neil shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot. So I think they had it planned out. They had it planned out. The fact that Jennifer reported that Paula was telling Neil to keep shooting was something very critical to police because it was the first real piece of evidence they had to suggest that Paula might have been involved and part of the shooting. Coming up, Neil Zumberg tells his side of the story. It just made her like hell. The whole time we were there. This is all about deer basically. Deer and I'm s***. And surveillance video sheds new light on the crime. If you don't frame by frame, you can see the muzzle flash from the firearm that he's using. Four hours after Todd Stevens was murdered, investigators go to the jail where Neil Zumberg is being held and take his statement. I want to build trust to the extent that I can with him. I think he's a smart educated man and he knows that there may be some trust issues with law enforcement. But we just want to make a sincere effort to get his version of the story. All right, Neil. And we'd like to talk about what happened tonight. I'm not gonna write and I work for the state of the missing. Okay? Okay. Nice to know of us. What we'd like from you and who you get in explanation. What about this? This is all about deer basically. I've heard that. Not all about deer and the deer and ants. According to Neil, Todd and Jennifer were the real pests. They just made her like hell. I'm kinda like every weekend and all of a sudden you're like, oh no, she's guys were getting drunk and they'd be off the road. It's a cherry, it's done's on the sides. Do you write and please know this? Neil viewed himself as someone who did what he needed to do and wasn't initially apologetic for him. What is it today? What makes it today different? I mean, he's other out of the bays in the past 60 years. He's a demon. What makes it different? I don't know, this everything. Fear, my wife's crying, she can't sleep tonight. They're going after our kids in the middle of the night. What am I gonna do? Neil says when they found out Jennifer had their son arrested, his wife hit a breaking point. I saw him pull up, I'm gonna give him a piece of my mind. They said he'd always swear him back before it. I got shot and how because I thought they were even a piece of it. He said he came out and he was keeping an eye on Todd to make sure his wife doesn't get shot. Did you see anything amazing? Feel like her, do you the major? Well, he had his arms like this and then he had them down like this. And I just, you know, I don't believe it. He thought Todd may have had a gun on his waistband and that that was not uncommon for Todd Stevens to wear a small caliber handgun. Neil says before he realized it, he'd already pulled the trigger. What the fuck is happening? We're having shot again for a long time. That's fully automatic. This has just kept going up. It's never in the intended argument that it's always been Todd. So your wife did it just in the screen or did she have to read it just in the room? Did she talk to you? She just put dollars in that folder to get the whole out of the house and she got the share of her own. She brought her home. Police find Paula Zumburg at her mother's house. She was advised by council not to provide a statement to us. We filed a complaint against Paula for eating and abetting the murder and attempted murder of Todd and Jennifer and once that complaint warrant was issued, Paula did turn herself in. Paula never said a word. With two significantly different versions of the story, investigators are hoping Todd and Jennifer's security cameras will help determine what really happened. So there are four cameras in total at Todd Stevens' house. The video was grainy. This was 2014. Technology has come a long way since then. But it was not so brain-y as we couldn't see what was happening. You could see their front yard, but you could mostly see the house across the street, the Zumburg house. The video shows Jennifer arriving just before 8.30pm. You could very clearly see Jennifer come home in her car and then you could see just a little bit of the top of her head and she was walking toward the front door. We were able to see Paula exit the home. Paula had come down to the end of her driveway and the two women were exchanging words, not very friendly. So after the original altercation, Todd came out, didn't say anything, but was just standing there. Nealed steps around to the side of the house, five different times to make sure there's nobody coming. So it wasn't until Paula had retreated back closer to their home and Todd and Jennifer had both come down the front stairs of their house that Neal opened fire. And all of a sudden, boom, there's gunshots. If you go frame by frame, you can see the muzzle flash from the firearm that he's using. We have Paula with visually indigital video, but we don't have her verbally saying, shoot him, shoot him. She doesn't drop to the ground, she doesn't run, and I can't imagine standing at the end of my driveway hearing a gunshot behind me and standing perfectly still. So I think that you can draw conclusions from that if you'd like. Investigators are inclined to agree with Jennifer. It looks like a setup. It appears to be a premeditated, planned execution of Todd Stevens. I really believed in the theory of the case and I believed that we had sufficient evidence to prove Paula's involvement. So those were the charges that were taken to a trial. So not only did I need to prove that Neal intentionally killed Todd and intentionally attempted to kill Jennifer, but also that that was done with premeditation. On August 11, 2014, three months after Todd Stevens was killed, Paula's somber stance trial for aiding and abetting her husband in the crime. Paula opted to wave a jury, and so we had a trial in front of a judge. And so the judge is the one who heard all of the evidence. Jennifer is the prosecution's star witness, but unfortunately, there is nothing to corroborate her claims. Jennifer would testify a trial, and Paula was kind of off to the side, to driveway at the mailbox. And she would yell, shoot, shoot, keep shooting. But there wasn't enough evidence to convict her of aiding and abetting, and that's a tricky charge to prove, unless she had handed her husband, Neal, a loaded gun. Ultimately, Paula was acquitted of both charges, and found not guilty. Have a nice day, not long. Although charges against Paula don't stick, charges of first degree murder and attempted murder await her husband. And on August 12, 2015, Neal Zumburg's trial begins. The defense's theory was that Neal was justified in this shooting to protect his wife Paula's life. On the witness stand, Neal said that he could read Todd's lips and that Todd had made a threat to kill his wife. Neal said that he, as a child, had learned to read lips because he had a brother who was hearing impaired, and that that was a skill he had developed over time. And so he claimed that he could see from 145 feet away, Todd saying, I'm going to kill you to Paula. Neal did say that he thought Todd had a gun on his person, and that he was reaching for it. At some point during that altercation between the two women. The evidence, however, doesn't back up Neal's claims of self-defense. When the police searched Todd's body, they found that he had a holster for a cell phone, but he did not have a gun on his possession. Neal testified. He went to pull up the gun, to kind of went off, to be fired in so long that it just kept firing. In closing, I was arguing about the intentionality of the shooting. And so the fact that he pulled the trigger for separate times was important evidence that this was not just a one-off, his finger didn't just slip and pull the trigger. So what I said to the jury is I said, this was not a whoopsy, this was intentional. On the seventh day of trial, the jury is sent to deliberate. It takes them less than three hours to return with a verdict. Ultimately, the jury did return verdicts of guilty. One of the alternate jurors said, you know, if he could read lips from that far away, then why wouldn't he have been able to see that Todd didn't really have a gun? First degree, premeditated murder, is the most serious criminal charge there is, and it's a mandatory sentence of life in prison without the possibility of parole. At his sentencing, Neal drops another bombshell. When Neal spoke to the court and admitted that he had not been fully truthful, he admitted that he did not actually know how to read lips. And it wasn't that the gun just kept going off, that he pulled that trigger on purpose. It was a shocking moment in covering the criminal justice system that a defendant would actually tell a judge that he had lied. Justice was served for Todd today, but we shouldn't be here today. We should not be here today. I have nothing to say to that man. All I could say to him is I don't forgive you. I never forgive you and I hope you're right in hell. This was a really tragic case all the way around. Todd paid the ultimate price for this feud. Jennifer suffered the loss of her partner. She was shot herself. She had to relocate everything in her life change. The Zumburgs ended up selling their house to pay Meal's criminal defense. And not only the two families who were directly impacted by death and imprisonment, think about the trauma to the neighbors. And that they had to endure this and that someone was shot and killed in broad daylight on his doorstep. Can you imagine trying to explain something like this to your kids? In the years since Todd's death, peace has returned to his new bright neighborhood, but it will never be the same without him. I think Todd would want to be remembered as a guy that worked hard, took care of his friends and his family in any way that he could. He didn't have a lot of money, but he would give us last $10 to anybody. And all the years I had known that's all he wanted to do is help people. Both families sold their homes and moved out of the neighborhood. Meal was currently serving a life sentence at Minnesota Correctional Facility, Oak Park Heights.