Nightcap Hour 2: Mike Evans LEAVES TAMPA for 49ERS + Tyler Lunderbaum HEADING to VEGAS + Colts TRADE Michael Pittman Jr. to STEELERS + Nakobe Dean SIGNS with RAIDERS + Cowboys NAB Rashan Gary + Wan’Dale Robinsons FINDS HOME with Titans + Dan Orlovsky VS Lamar Jackson + NBA CANCELS Magic City Night

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Sign up for a free trial at audible.com. I'm Daniel Jeremiah. And I am Greg Rosenthal. I know that, Greg. We're teaming up on 40s and free agents, the podcast that owns the NFL offseason. This is where teams are built. Free agency, combine, pro days, trades. Every move matters. From my draft boards and mock drafts. To my vaunted top 101 free agents and how rosters come together. Quarterback movement. Surprise signings. We'll tell you what it means and who really wins. Open your free iHeartRadio app, search 40s and free agents, and listen now. Mike Evans is leaving Tampa Bay. He's heading to the Bay to join Kyle Shanahan and Brock Purdy. Mike Evans will have a new home for the first time in his NFL career as he chases his second Super Bowl. He's signing a three-year contract with the 49ers until injuries derailed his 2025 campaign. Evans had a streak of 11 straight seasons of at least 1,000 receiving yards. He tied Jerry Rice for the longest in NFL history. His was to begin the career. Jerry has his from 90, he had his from 86 to 96. 108 total touchdown, ranked 10th all-time, sixth most with one franchise. He amassed 368 yards in eight games last season. If he's still the same player, he has the potential to be really, really good for Kyle Shanahan because we know what Kyle can do in that offense, playmakers such as Christian McCaffrey, George Kittle, we'll see, coming back from an Achilles injury, Ocho. yeah he's gonna have to take another step he's gonna have to take another step Juwan Jennings is a free agent Kendrick Bourne if I'm not mistaken I think I saw him before I came on tonight signed with Arizona for a nice deal Ojo what you think are you surprised that Mike Evans I absolutely love it I absolutely love it because I know what Mike Evans can do not only do I know what Mike Evans can do he's going to a team where you got a goddamn offensive genius you're going to an offense that is predicated on putting you in position to make plays what is goddamn mike evans he's a playmaker and he showed you in a long stretch of 11 seasons of having a thousand yards now it's unfortunate i tweeted dolphins we got malik willis let's get mike evans because i understood we needed down here in miami another playmaker right and lo and behold shortly after that he signed with the 49ers and i'm not even mad about it because i understand oh my goodness you putting mike evans in that system like that with the creativity and the offers of prowess that kyle shanahan has when it comes to officer play calling and putting players in position to make plays man hell mike evans might go for a thousand maybe 1500 i think the thing is and you saw this the last couple of years the injuries started to creep up and as they started to creep up they started to keep you out a little longer you see remember he had a hamstring and he was able to come back to keep that thousand catch season alive and then And this year it came and all of a sudden he couldn't fight it off. He couldn't come back. So I think that was a little concern because Tampa has lost a couple of guys. There are a couple of guys that are leaving Tampa and moving on. But when you look at it, I think obviously IU isn't coming back. Kendrick Bourne is a new location. Jawan King is a free agent. George Kittle is coming off a very serious injury. How old is Kittle? 32? 33? he's 32 years old coming off an Achilles injury we'll see how soon he can get back yeah because if you think about it Ocho Jason Tatum 10 months okay kill the Torrey Achilles in January February, March, April, May, June July, August, September, October November 10 months I'll be November yeah that's if he comes 10 but now he could he come back in nine and make it october could he come back in eight make it september right probably pushing it but hey as a professional athlete sometimes you have to protect us from us but we'll see how that how that plays out but they needed a receiver yeah and you see wandel robinson you saw what he got from tennessee you saw yeah I saw with Pierce, what he got from. Alec from Indianapolis. So that's about $29 million a year, four for $116 million. Hey, timing, timing. So 29 for $116 million. Timing. So what George Pickett, we say George Pickett. He say, y'all think y'all want to give me $28 to $30 million. Man, stop playing. I could have told you that. Honestly, it's disrespectful. I mean, those that, I don't want to call them casual fans that watch football, is they say, oh, franchise tag, $28 million, and think that's enough. Not understanding, are you foolish? Are you tripping? Are you understanding? That's why I was so voiceless and so enthusiastic about him being able to go somewhere else, because I understand the game that they're going to play. I understand the game. They don't see it because they just want him on their team. Everybody's selfish. He was great for us. We want him on our team. We don't care. He got a franchise tag. He's getting $28 million, $29 million. man please stop playing um but anyway yeah i think the thing is the whole thing is is that man as you start to age and you start to get nicked it i don't know what it is ocho it's like it seems like the injuries happen with greater frequency as we start to age and we start to get injured in our older age in our latter years we start getting nicked in year 10 year 11 year 12 man it's hard the body just doesn't recover like it once did cover yeah uh it's it's tough well you You know, I can tell you something. You know, for someone who has never been injured, all glory be to God because of that. I don't know what it is, especially what it is with players when they get up in age, and I'm assuming maybe it's wear and tear on the body from the rigorous workouts and what they've done over the years. And I don't know what factor. I don't know what you can factor into it as to why it always happens. The funny thing about the nature of the beast when it comes to playing this game, injuries are inevitable. They're going to happen. And you want to minimize them the best way you can, whether it be through nutrition, whether it be through... Preventative measure, you know, your cold tub, your hot tub, your massage therapy. Yes, yes, yes. Taking care of your body. But the one thing about it is some just aren't lucky. And it just happens. It just happens. Even when you prevent, you take all the proper measurements to make sure you don't get hurt. It just happens. So, Evan's agent isn't stressed about, it was stressed, it wasn't about money. The Buccaneers were extremely aggressive in their pursuit and presented a very strong offer. Offer demonstrating how much they value him and everything he meant to the franchise. In the end, the decision came down to Mike wanting a new challenge and a fresh opportunity while still he feels he has a great deal left in his game. Ocho, what does this say? I mean, he's been he's been he had opportunity to leave elsewhere and he stayed now you do realize tampa florida doesn't have state taxes california got the highest state taxes in the state in the united states so for him to say basically i'm basically no matter what if the numbers are even i'm taking less money because they're going to take more they're going to take 13 14 of your money right so if you're making $5 million they're taking $750 off the rip let alone the cost of living and what it cost to live in San Jose or whatever the case may to be so what's going on with Mike? why do you think he wanted a fresh start considering he had spent so many years in Tampa in Tampa I don't think the numbers were equivalent if it was enough if the numbers what they should have been I think it would have stayed in Tampa Obviously, I think the 49ers offered him more, and he understood the situation in going to the 49ers. Well, hold on. This is the situation where I can be that guy again. Yep. You know, they throw the ball in volume. You know, I'm going to catch a lot of passes. I'm going to score a lot of touchdowns and continue to build on my legacy going to Mike Shanahan's offense. I understand it. They have a good quarterback in Brock Purdy. So he understands that George Kittle's not going to be out. Again, they're going to need me. I might be able to double, maybe even triple what I can do at the receiver position, you know, and the usage rate in which in which they're going to use me. So I think the Bucs are probably moving forward and having Ibuka be that number one receiver and having that complimentary, that complimentary piece in Godwin, you know, follow right behind him as a number two. outside of that I think the writing was on the wall and then moving on when Mike Evans got hurt and Ibuga started having that string of game maybe three or four games back to back to back where he went crazy and at that point I think Mike made the right decision and moving on and continuing to build on you know on his legacy. Yeah I think at this price point I don't I don't I mean I don't think the numbers have been revealed yet but I didn't see a scenario where they could pay getting Alex, the Alex, the Pierce sweet steak, Wanda Robinson sweet steak. So you see some of these guys is getting the big money. I don't, you know, considering they got Purdy on that kind of money. They got Christian McCaffrey on that kind of money. They got Kittle who's the highest paid tight end at that kind of money. They got Bosa. They got Fred Warner. They got some guys, they got some big contracts on Joe. And so I just think the thing is, is that if, if, if Mike Evans still have some tread on the tire, I think, I definitely think he can help this team. Now the question is, are they going to go, are they going to get, are they going to bring Jennings back? Cause I thought he played well for him. He did. I thought he played extremely well. He did. Given the, the, the, the inconsistencies of, of what been in and out of the lineup, whether it was Purdy or, or Matt Jones playing, Kittle being in and out of the lineup. Obviously, Ayuk didn't play. Pierce all been hurt for him to come in and play as well as he did. I thought he did a great job. But we'll see what Mike Evans have. I mean, you believe he still has something. I don't know if he's going to be five, six years ago, Mike Evans. But if he can give him somewhere 800 to 1,000 yards, you know, seven, eight touchdowns. He getting way more than a thousand in that offense. Yeah, absolutely. Okay. He's a great run after catch. Yeah, yeah. That's your level of expertise as the wide receiver. So I'm going to take your word for it. But, you know, look. I think the thing is a plus with Jennings, Ocho. He's going to want big money. He sees what all these other guys. I mean, you see what these other guys are making. You don't want to be the guy that goes out there all of a sudden and get like a three-year, $18 million deal where you see guys getting, I think Wondell Robinson got what? Like $20 million a year. And Alec Pierce got like $28, $29 million a year. You don't want to be the guy like, damn, bro, you a friend and that's all you got? So he's going to, I mean. He's going to get his chance. He's going to get his chance. He's going to get his chance somewhere. Yeah. because I think he definitely earned it. He played extremely well, and he deserves that opportunity. So we'll see where he ends up going, but Mike Evans is going to the... What's up? I'm Miles Turner. And I'm Brianna Stewart. And our podcast, Game Recognized Game, has never been done before. Two active players giving you a real look at our lives and what we actually think on and off the court. Nothing's off limits. We talk trade requests. What's the vibe of that when it's like your star player is like, well, I want to leave. And then actually now I'm going to stay. We talk tanking. I mean, honestly, like, I might get in trouble for this answer, but I think it's like definitely happening in the WBA. And yeah, we talk about our mistakes, too. They pulled me to the side and was like, hey, man, we got a call last night. You can't be rolling around the city like this the night before games. No, you know, doing this, doing whatever. 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After four years with the Ravers, Tyler Linderbaum is joining a new squad. Adam Schefter reports the center has agreed. Three years, $81 million with the Raiders. The deal includes $60 million guaranteed, an average value, the most ever, the most ever for an NFL interior lineman, 27 million a year. But things got interesting when Kyle Hamilton celebrated his teammate getting the bag on AG. As the Raven fan tweeted, sometimes I wonder if Kyle Hamilton hates the Ravens. Guy shares the most likely signing, but not like comment or share a relation to Crosby or other Ravens news. Maybe I'm overreacting, but it's something I've noticed for a while now. I mean, I'm confused. Didn't they come in together? celebrating when they drafted in the same draft i think hamilton was one and then he came in he came in like later wasn't it wasn't it in the same draft and marlon humphrey tweeted from uh the fan account saying you're not overreacting he's exactly who you think he is i know him personally what's going on i don't i don't know i don't know i don't know it's one it's one that i'm confused i'm confused i'm not in that locker room you know know i'm on the outside looking in just like you so i'm finding out things that are going on over there just like you are now i can't pinpoint what the problem is i'm not sure what the problem is celebrating someone you know getting their deal that was a part of your team uh it's that's it's weird it's weird to me but the fact that someone's watching close enough to be able to notice from the outside looking in that that says a lot i mean Marlon Humphrey's still there, ain't he? And he says, you're not overreacting. He's exactly who you think he is. I know him personally. Certain things, look, you might be joking, but everybody don't take jokes the same way that you take them. Now, look, I understand that you want to congratulate because they were in the same draft. They were both first-round draft picks. I think Kyle Hamilton went first, and then I think he went, what, 22? I think he went later. Or was he a second-round pick? No, he was 14. He was only 25. Okay. So, and I get your draft made. I mean, you're happy for you. I mean, guys that you came in with, Ocho, you're happy. All of them didn't stay the whole while that you were in Cincinnati. They go other places you're happy for. And I don't know. I don't know how you handle it. Obviously, we didn't have social media like this. They didn't have no Twitter and stuff like that. But I would have been happy. hey, congrats, boy. Hey, let your boy hold something. Let me get a loan. I can't pay back. You know, I'm going to say something funny like that. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? Because I'm feeling happy. But I don't want to read too much into this chat. Y'all read? Are we underreacting? Are we overreacting? I'm not sure how to feel about this. He might be trolling. Yeah. He might be trolling. You're right, Ocho. You might be. So, like I said, when it comes to Marlon Humphrey, I don't really know. I don't know how we're supposed to take this. But, look, if he was just like, you're not overreacting, this is exactly who you think he is. And then if he – I think he might be trolling too, Ocho, because he says I know him personally. Had he just left it open in, he's exactly who you think he is. right I probably like but I think I do I do I think I think Kyle Hamilton is sincerely happy for a classmate they came in in the same draft one was for Kyle was 14 and Linda Baum was 25 so yeah I'm not I'm not taking too much of it I mean everything I don't know. I just think the thing is you try to give kudos to somebody and then somebody think you're taking a shot at your former team. You're taking a shot, yeah, at your own team. The Ravens they didn pick up his fifth option because they felt the fifth option was about billion which billion which is about five yes million more than what Creed Humphrey which is the highest paid center is making I agree and once they didn pick up that you know damn well if they weren't gonna pay the man they wasn't gonna pay the 23.5 or the 24 billion right you know damn well they wasn't about to pay 27 million with 60 million guaranteed right and they just and you know you just gave up what you gave up to get Crosby and they're talking about the type of contract that you're going to have to give Lamar oh yeah oh hey what but Lamar um boy would he finish would he finish he's going to get about he's going to get 62 62 mil a year 62 a year what Josh Allen get what did Josh Allen what was Josh Allen guaranteed give me Hey, Ocho, give me $50 more than Josh. That's it. Just $50, huh? $50. Put a little $50 on. A little $50. A little $50 hold me over. Oh, yeah. That's $62 and $50 more than what Josh Allen got. Josh Allen got $275. I got $275.50. Mm-hmm. I like it. Yeah, but look, I'm not going to read too much into this. Ocho, the coach traded Michael Pittman Jr. to the Pittsburgh Steelers. The Steelers. Hey, let's go, Pitt. To a three-year, $59 million deal. The news comes shortly after the Colts decided to give Alex Pierce four years, $116 million to keep him in Indy. Ocho, the Steelers now have the second-best wide receiver duo in the AFC North. They got some big guys. Pittman is 6'4", DK is 6'3", 6'4". Pittman is about 220, 225, 230. DK about 230. They definitely got the biggest receivers. Yeah, I like it. I like it. Listen, Michael Pittman Jr., he's been really solid the past few years. Last year, he had 80 catches for 784 yards, 7 TDs. The year 2024, he had 69 for 808 in three TDs. So he's been solid. He's been decent over the years. Been a great option for the Indianapolis Colts. Now going over to the Pittsburgh Steelers, but still, now you got two receivers. You got two big receivers that were obviously a little bit more upside with DK Metcalf, but you got two big receivers. But you still need somebody else. You still need somebody else. Along with that, I think. They lost Gainwell. You know they lost Gainwell, Ocho. Gainwell, but somebody else came, if I'm not mistaken, right? I don't know. I could have swore I saw a running back go to the Steelers. But outside of that, you still need another receiver, another option. Rico Dowdle went to. Yeah, Rico Dowdle from the Panthers. From the Panthers. That's right. Rico Dowdle went. You still need another option, a receiver that does things differently. that big receivers do. I mean, so you can't have the same of everything at the receiver position. Who's the quarterback? Who's the quarterback? I like the move, you know, and Pittman as a weapon, but who's going to be your quarterback? I don't know. I think they might be hoping that Aaron Rodgers come back. I don't know if they, because Kenny Pickett. Kenny Pickett. He went to the Panthers. Okay. He went to the Panthers. One-year deal. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think Rudolph is coming back so it looks like they might be in the same situation that they were last year Ocho putting all the eggs in Aaron Rodgers' basket I mean listen that 42 year old quarterback or maybe the B43 year old quarterback is better than every option that's out there could be chat I mean am I wrong? is Aaron Rodgers a better option that quarterback for the Pittsburgh Steelers than everyone else that's available I mean I'm just being honest so he has again the Steelers by the balls well at damn near his entire career he's had everybody by the balls because he has the power he controls you know the situation because he knows they need him so I'm so excited I slept by 7-8 hours a day I went and worked out today oh my goodness Unless they go into the draft, I mean, who knows? I don't know. The answer ain't in the draft? Look, if we get Aaron Rodgers back for a year and we have Ty Simpson or one of these quarterbacks that can come out and learn up for a year, Ocho. Right, right, right, right, right. But Steelers got to figure it out. Aaron Rodgers can't keep coming. Y'all can't keep bringing Aaron Rodgers back on one-year deals. He ain't going to play for him. I mean, they have Will Howard, but if Will Howard was the answer, if he was the answer. We wouldn't be hoping Aaron Rodgers would come back. We'd better be knowing that we'd love to have Aaron back. Right. They would move on. They would move on. 25-year-old linebacker N'Kobe Dean signed with the Las Vegas Raiders, reportedly agreeing to a three-year deal worth $36 million. But it wasn't the length of the contract or the money that swayed him. According to NFL insider Jane Slater, Dallas was actually very competitive in the bidding for Dean's talent and made an offer that was very similar to that made by the Raiders. Dean apparently said he could see himself in both places. In the end, though, ultimately he went with his gut feeling and picked Las Vegas by what he described to her as a 51-49 margin. Ocho, choosing the Raiders over the Cowboys. I mean, both, no income tax in either state. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I'm not sure what went about when it came down to making his decision at the end. Cowboys defense That's tough I would love to Be a fly on the wall To understand those conversations he had With his agent and when he chose To go to Las Vegas and why Is it what Las Vegas is building Is it the belief in them understanding That they've cleaned house in a sense And they're going in a different direction And trying to compete You know in the AFC West right yeah and trying to get better uh understanding what they're going to do in the draft and getting a quarterback um i i'm not sure there's so many factors that that play into it when it comes to making a decision of this magnitude uh that's going to affect your career especially when you go and play not to choose the cowboys the illustrious the product that sells itself with a star on its helmet cowboys that have been relevant since i mean what who long who knows they move the needle they do to not want to come play there to not want to come play there I mean it had to be something yeah um when um you know Clint Kubiak uh you know they signed a couple of guys um they're trying they're trying to build they got they got two first rounders we know that and they got two next year we know that so you get an opportunity and they got money they got money to spend. So if you hit get the right free agents, you look at what New England did. They missed the playoffs. They signed Milton Williams and they signed Stephon Diggs and they signed a few back Mack Hollins. And you go in the draft and you draft, you get Henderson and you make a few right moves, Ocho, and you write back your business. Raiders can have that to say, obviously your quarterback's going to have to play really well for you, but if you make right free agency, hit this thing in the draft. Now, the jury's still out on your left tackle. I think he can be good. You know, you hear people talking about his sense. He's like, no, he does get overpowered. The guy, the bull, and maybe that's his left knee. Maybe he can't sit down on that knee. He needs the offseason to get that knee healthy and be able to sit down. He does give up the edges because he got his ass handed to him. There's nowhere around. He got his ass handed to him in the postseason. He did. You saw the Texans hand him his ass. Now, they were pre-review pass rush now. Benito and Will Anderson and Daniel Hunter. They do everybody like that. They're not no slouches. But you're the left tackle. You gotta hold your own. That's your money spot. Yeah, that's your money spot. Your money spot always gotta be your weak link. After missing out on Max Crosby, the Cowboys opted for another edge rusher. Ray Shungary is headed to the Cowboys with an old teammate of Kenny Clark to bolster the Cowboys pass rush post Michael Parsons era. Ocho, do you like the signing? I like it. I like Rashawn Gary. I like the signing. I didn't like the disappearing act that he pulled after having nine sacks the last nine games. Maybe it was a 10 sack and he disappeared. He had zero sacks the last nine games. That's what I was trying to say, but he had, how many did he have before those last nine games where he went on hiatus? I think he had like eight. I think he had like eight and a half. Okay, yeah. in his first eight games and then he got shut out the last nine games. Yeah, the last nine. So obviously once Micah got there and Micah came, Micah had 12 and a half. And missed four games. And missed four games. So I'm not sure. I think Rashawn Gary is a good signing. If he can get off to a great start like he did in Green Bay and have some consistency and not disappear like he did or tail off at the end of the season, I think it would be a great, great pickup for the Dallas Cowboys. I, and Chad, stay with me real quick. I still think they might be in a play for Trey Henderson, or is that deal off the table because you got Rashawn Gary? What do you think? I think they're going to play a 3-4. So if they're going to play a 34, you put Henderson as a stand-up linebacker, you put Gary as a stand-up linebacker, and you will probably have Quinty Williams and Odigazua as your end, and then you probably have Kenny Clark as your nose. so listen do you just based off what you just said just there i mean obviously on paper with names it sounds good they still have to play as a unit all together collectively but to me it sounds good i'm not sure if they're going to have the money to do so and a lot of people say oh they don't have no money i don't think people understand when teams want to do something there's a way to move money around you do understand that right yeah there's always a way to move money around that there's no way to stop them when they want to sign a player individually. They can restructure and manipulate whatever numbers they need to to get who they want to. They redid Dak's contract. They restructured Dak. They restructured a CD. They restructured Tyler Smith. They did something with Terrence Steele. So they got a little money to play with. I don't know if they're going to do something with Deron Bland. Probably if they rework those contracts over Diggy Zua, Quentin Williams, and Kenny Clark, probably give them some more money to play with. because you just kicked the can down the road. You tear the contract up, add voidable years, and give them the signing bonus, Ocho. So I think that's what it's going to do. I think the thing for me is that they give him a fourth-round draft pick, pay the guy $19.5 million this year. He has $22.5 million next year, but it's not guaranteed. And then when you look at Khalil Mack, he just signed a one-year deal for $18 million. Me personally, I think Khalil Mack is a better player. I think the thing is that when you look at Rashawn Gary, he's a guy that's never had a double-digit sack season. And you mentioned something very interesting. The last nine games, he had zero sacks. It's hard for me to see a scenario because you know Michael's getting double-teamed. It's hard for me to see a scenario where you can't get one sack, two sacks with all the attention with the guy on the other side. It's kind of like if you're a wide receiver and you play with another great wide receiver, you can't tell me. You mean to tell me you can't get a couple of touchdowns? You can't get to have a couple of big games when I know they're giving attention to the other guy on the other side. So that was, that was, I'm not, I'm not saying, look, maybe he was hurt, but I'm saying that would cause me to pause. Like, okay, now what's going on? Let me, let me, let me, let me try to dive a little deeper to see what's really going on with each other. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Matter of fact, hold on. And let me, let me, let me get. the Raiders Matt Crosby is going to Baltimore who's replaced who's replaced Max they're probably going to go in the draft do they because you got the first pick in the draft or you got number 14 so I'm thinking with Rashawn Gary if the Cowboys feel they feel their need at the defensive position as far as offseason acquisitions go and they want to work at other levels that they do have then I say maybe Trey Henderson if I don't I don't see a scenario where he signs back. No, that ain't that bad. I mean, what they, that mean, obviously that's, that's not going to happen. So maybe there's a scenario where Trey Henderson ends up in, in, in, in Las Vegas. Possible. In Las Vegas. Possibly. I tweet, I tweeted, okay, Trey Henderson is going to end up a cowboy. I tweeted it because I, I wholeheartedly believe it. But when they got Rashawn Gary, I'm like, uh, knowing Jerry, knowing the way he is, he's not very aggressive, not too aggressive in the offseason. I mean listen he made he made a move yeah You see he tried to make a play for On the Kobe Dean he makes them you know yes trading we traded for Queenie William Yes, he traded Michael and he got compensation back and so you see what he's some of the some of the moves that he's making This is the first time that we've seen Dallas really spend in the offseason or really try to make yeah and not no C or D level moves. These are, look, it remains to be seen how Rashawn Gary is going to play out. But to try to go into free and get into Kobe Dean because that is a position of need. Your linebackers need. They need to. And to play a 3-4, Ocho, your back has got to be good in the 3-4. They got to be some thumps. Yeah. They got to be, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Seattle Seahawks are bringing back wide receiver Rashid Shaheed. What's up? I'm Miles Turner. And I'm Brianna Stewart. And our podcast, Game Recognized Game, has never been done before. 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Audible is a proud sponsor of the Audible Audio Pioneer Award. Explore the best selection of audiobooks, podcasts, and originals all in one easy app. Audible. There's more to imagine when you listen. Sign up for a free trial at audible.com. On a three-year, $51 million contract, Ocho, $34.7 million guaranteed. Shahid joined cornerback Josh Jobe as clean players, returning to the defending Super Bowl champion in free agency. Seattle, however, lost both Super Bowl MVP Kenneth Walker to the Chiefs and defensive back Kobe Bryant to the Bears to join a new team. Did Seattle do enough to try to run it back? Now, Ocho, I got to save a little something, because you know, Ocho, you know Spoon and you know JSN. I got to take care of them. Oh, yeah, absolutely. I kind of want to do a little something for Sam Darnold, let him know that we really appreciate what he did. Yeah, I mean, listen, you know they know how to manipulate those numbers. They know what they need to do. You got to take care of JSN. You got to take care of Witherspoon because they have been phenomenal. Those are key pieces to your team in general. I'm not sure when it's going to happen. I don't know. I'm waiting. I'm waiting. Have they done enough to fill in, to make a repeat or have a run again? I'm not sure the defense will look the same as it did this year. You can find pieces. Are you going to find someone that's going to fill in that position at the defensive back position and do what Tyreek Willen was able to do? I mean, they had that nickname for a reason. They had the nickname for a reason. So if you're not bringing back that same squad with the same players that had that continuity, will it be the same? Will Sam Donald play as well as he did this season? Hell, well, he proved he could do it. He went from Minnesota, playing well in Minnesota, and ain't missed a beat in Seattle. So, I mean, you would see him now already being paid. You would see some consistency on his part. So I'm sure they probably will look just as good. And to go back to the Raiders, they also signed Quay Walker from Green Bay. Because remember, Green Bay traded. The linebacker? They traded for, what's the Indianapolis Colts guy? They traded 44. Him and he was on the 520 show. Oh, Zaire. Zaire Franklin. Zaire Franklin. Green Bay traded for Zaire. Quay Walker, who's at the University of Georgia. Hey, as a matter of fact, I think Quay and N'Kobe played together, I think. So now they got the Georgia boys reunited. Because you know they had two Georgia boys and they had three. With Philly. Carter and Davis and Kobe Dean. Right. And so... Hey, I still don't understand. I know you just said it. I don't want to say how they let Zaire Franklin go. But he's an animal. Hey, he's going to stop the run now. Oh my goodness. He'd be all over the place. He a bumper. I don't know what defense they're going to run, but he a perfect for a 3-4 defense because he a big ass down and he can take on guards. Obviously, you know, when you're that size, you're not going to be as nimble and play the coverage pass that well, so he'll probably be coming out on third down. But, you know, I like to pick for Green Bay. Green Bay's like we need to get better in run defense, and they felt, you know, Quay is more agile. But it's going to be interesting to see. I like what the Raiders have done so far. Now, it doesn't translate just because you spent a boatload of money in free agency, Ocho, doesn't mean it's going to translate to automatic. If that's the case, hey listen that the case The goddamn Steelers would have translated based on what they acquired in the offseason with all that elite talent that they had So it going to be buried But you know we not surprised that we see this kind of movement We normally see this movement the first two days. Ocho, the Tennessee Titans are signing ex-Giants wide receiver Wondell Robinson. Four years, $78 million. Robinson is set to reunite with Giants head coach Brian Dayball in Tennessee on a four-year $78 million deal. $38 million of it, which is guaranteed. Robinson kicked off his big day to join the Titans, who signed defensive lineman John Franklin Myers to a hefty three-year deal, $63 million. Quarterback Alante Taylor to a three-year, $60 million deal. The Titans spent a whopping $270 million on free agents today, Ocho. A notable ad to former Giants, Cordell Float, backup quarterback Mitchell Trubisky. Ocho, did the Titans do a number one? do enough to support number one overall draft pick last year, Cam Ward? Listen, I like Wondell Wright. I like what he did with the Giants last year. I'm sorry, Wondell Robinson. I like what he did with the Giants last year. He had some flashes of brilliance on. I think they still need to do more. They need to do more, especially on the offensive end, to add more pieces or more weapons around Cam Ward. Calvin Ridley coming back from an injury. I'm not sure what's that going to look like. I'm not sure what the timetable is for his return, but they still need a guy. I'm talking about that. I almost said the N word. They need that boy dog out there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? One you can count on no matter what. But, again, it's still early. There's some other pieces that you can continue to add. So I'm excited for Cam Ward. I'm hoping that they do more and add more weapons around him so he doesn't have the issues like he had last year. There were many issues offensively for them last year. You're not, you could never have too many weapons for your quarterback. At all. The Denver Broncos are bringing back running back J.K. Dobbins on a $20 million deal. The deal includes $8 million fully guaranteed. Dobbins led the Broncos in carries 153, rush yards 772, and runs of at least 10 yards, 21. but he also didn't play after November 6th because of a foot injury. He suffered a Thursday night in the wind over the Raiders last season. Dobbins played, uh, failed to play more than 10 games for the fourth time in his six year NFL career. In 2021, he missed the season because of a torn ACL and played just one game in 2023 before tearing his Achilles. Ocho, do you like this move? I mean, I like it. I like it. Um, I'm not sure. I mean, uh, that's tough especially at their running back position it's like it's tough I'm not sure what to say unless you're you know the elite of the elite are you going to make that much of a difference based on that position are you going to be that much better than what they already had I'm trying to say it without being disrespectful you know they signed RJ Harvey I think he was might have been a first round draft pick or second round draft pick out of UCF I think the thing is this is an okay deal. You didn't pay a whole lot of money. You only gave him 8 million fully guaranteed. Based on his injury history, Ocho, I couldn't go longer than that. I'm surprised they went two years. I probably would have went one year, but I understand spacing it out because the 8 million fully guaranteed, so you get to spread it out over two years, but based on his injury history, something tells me that he's going to miss time because he's missed time the last four years, Ocho. He didn't play after November 6th. You know how many games? There's still games in December. They still had one regular season game in January. So he missed maybe seven games. And then he coming off an ACL in 21. He turned an Achilles injury in 23. He got nicked in 24. He's nicked in 25. He's had some... Listen, when he's healthy though, he's had some flashes. Yeah, absolutely. He's had some flashes with the Ravens, with the Broncos. I mean, I don't know. That's a tough one to talk about due to his injury history. I don't like bringing up people's history and how much they've been hurt and what they can offer a team. Obviously, they feel he can do them some justice, which is why he's there. Ocho, Dan Oloski was on Get Up this morning talking about what Max Crosby trade means for Lamar Jackson. D.O. said, I love Lamar. There ain't no more excuses. That's all in. Lamar responded on Twitter. excuse me Dan there's never been excuses for Lamar though I like that you know he don't say much he don't talk much the fact that he even responded was cool you heard me the fact that he even responded was cool because he don't say nothing he don't never fire back he don't never say nothing so it's good to see that for a change change again from a superstar a mega superstar in the in the game I would I wish a little bit I wish a few more of them would open up and go back and forth when they when they don't agree with some you know a certain opinion of whatever it may be especially in the offseason you know and enjoy enjoy yourself you know let the people see a different side of you for a change I think I I think Ocho I think look last year we thought it was the defense because we saw the leads that they have Ocho and the and they weren't able to hold those. They squandered it. I think the thing is that offensively, I still believe they need another receiver outside of Zay. They've got to fill the hole at right guard. That right guard is just, ooh, Jesus. But I don't like the defensive point, don't you? He might get better this offseason. The right guard might get better this offseason. Understanding and watching film, knowing how you embarrass yourself because your nameplate is on the back of that jersey every time you play and you snap. It's a snap down. There's no way you watch film in the meeting rooms with your officer teammates, your officer lineman, and think you're going to come back looking like that next year. That's embarrassing. We ain't going to be able to watch film today. What happened to the machine? I don't know. Ocho, do you know how embarrassing that is? Ocho, we've all been in meetings and they played offensive series in front of the offense. The wide receivers are in there. The tight ends are in there. The running backs, the quarterback. We're in there, the offensive line, and you F up. Do you know how embarrassing that is? Now, just imagine how many times they cut the film on and he getting run by. Hey, it's the same person over and over. Over and over. Same one. So, I don't know. I think the thing is that we'll see. They don't have a first-round pick. Are they done in free agency? Are they going to try to get another wide receiver to go with Zane? I know they gave Bateman some money, but Bateman, I don't know what happened. I don't know what happened to him last year, Ojo. Too many games he disappeared, and he dropped too many passes. They need a new center, too. You talk about the right tackle. Now they got to be a new center. yeah they do but that right guard lord have mercy hey that's a big boy too that's a big boy boy yeah he shouldn't be that terrible and big big and for no reason I think the thing is is that look Lamar is like I've never had No, Lamar, we know you don't make excuses, but I think sometimes what Dio's kind of alluding to is that people making excuses for you. You're not making excuses. You're like, hey, we got to play better. I got to play better. The one thing I can say about you is that when you don't play well, you'll step to the mic and say, I got to play better. That's on me. I got to do a better job of seeing it. I got to do a better job of reacting. I got to do a better job of throwing the football and leading this football team. Lamar Jackson, I've never heard Lamar Jackson make any excuses. He's never placed the blame. blame, but I think the thing is that with Dio talking about the fan base that tried well, he doesn't have this or he doesn't have that. Look, they're going to pay him a king's ransom. He's going to be the highest paid quarterback in the league. They went and got somebody on the defense. I don't think they can be done, Ocho. I don't. I don't. No, absolutely. No, I don't know if you can spend that kind of money. You got too many holes to fill, huh? They got too many holes to fill. I agree. I agree. I don't think you can spend that kind of money like you spent with Max Crosby, but I think you got you got to get some more people man you got to get some more and your corners and I don't know what they're going to do with but your corners got to play better they just got to and maybe they will play better because you're not going to have the time to pat the ball back there with cross no no so it's going to be very very interesting like I said I want Lamar to win one because I see when guys win one championship how it feels like the The release that you get. I've done it. Now I can really relax. You got the monkey off your back. Yes, Ocho. Yes, yes. And he's too good. I mean, he should be a three-time MVP. He's a two-time MVP. I still don't care what nobody say. And Josh was phenomenal. But not that year. Not that year. Not that year. But anyway. Lamar go be Lamar. And can you give us three games on Lamar Jackson in the playoffs? The Lamar Jackson that we've seen in the regular season, the guy that's a two-time league MVP, a guy that was in the running that finished second in league MVP, Ocho, can he give us three games in which he plays like that? Because if he gives us three games where he plays like that, they're getting to the Super Bowl. because he can single-handedly lift the team. Yes, absolutely. We've seen him throw for 400 yards. We've seen him run for 150. We've seen him do a combination where he throws for 235 and three touchdowns and runs 405 and gives you another two touchdowns. So we've seen him. He got a big running back that can chew up clock, that can chew up time. We just need the guy that's a Superman, number eight. We just need that guy to show up in the postseason. He shows up in the postseason, I think he'll put everything that's been said about him negatively, I think he can put it to bed. I think he puts it to bed. But I like what the Ravens are doing. They're going for it. They're going to pay Lamar. I think they need another receiver. They need a right guard. I don't think they're done defensively. They're going to fill some holes in over there. And I think they'll definitely be better for it. Look, you see the Steelers are adding big wide receivers. You see what Cincinnati's doing defensively? They're trying to get better. Cleveland is Cleveland. We'll see what happens with Cleveland and where they are. Defensively, I think they're going to be good. I don't know who's going to be orchestrating the defense. But, look, you got a two-time defensive player of the year. You got a top corner over there. That's a start. And you got the defensive rookie of the year. So you got some nice pieces. Devin Bush is in Chicago now. So you probably have to fill that hole, but they got a nice foundation defensively. I think the problem is for Cleveland is offensively. But we don't think Cleveland's in the class with the Baltimore's or Cincinnati's. No. They got a ways to go before they get into that conversation. You think tomorrow is going to be a heavy day of movement like it was today? Yeah, it would be somewhat. Maybe not because everybody getting that fast action. Now, all these contracts are officially signed, sealed, and delivered on Wednesday. Right. But, yeah, I think we'll see a frenzy. I think we'll see some more things happen. Yeah, but today was exciting, boy. I put my notifications for Adam Schefter and the NFL on on my phone. Yeah, I have a note. Hey, I wanted to hear every time something came through. I wanted to know as soon as it happened. Oh, Joe, I got some sad news to share with you. No, no, no, no. don't do that because you know I'm emotional. Magic City Monday is not happening at the Atlanta Hawks home arena. What? The play and promotion I only bought my tickets to the game. The Atlanta cultural institution was scrapped by the NBA one week before it was set to take place. While we are very disappointed in the NBA's decision to cancel out Magic City tonight, we fully respect its decision. As a franchise, we remain committed to celebrating the best of Atlanta with authenticity in ways that continue to unite and bring us all together. That's from the Hawks official page, Adam Silver said that they had some concerns with sponsors and other affiliated investors with the league and said that's not a good look. Yeah, they had a little pushback. Yeah, they had a little pushback, that's all. They ain't want to scrub the ground in the arena, Ocho. I think they know that. They just didn't want to be associated with what it is. They want to do their dirt, That is, they want to do they dirt behind closed doors. Drop. You hear me? Hey, they want to do they dirt behind closed doors. I want to rock. I want to rock. Hey, so I'm still going to the game, though. I'm still going to the game with Joe. Do-do-do-do-do-do. Let me see you. Drop the jackpot. Do-do-ro. Hey. Do-do-ro. I want to rock. I want to rock. I want to rock. Hey. Hey, what you know about that? Hey, I remember them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, man. Oh, man. Man, they done messed it up, man. Damn. All right, time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. Damn. Hey, who the Hawks was playing, huh? I'm not sure. Before we get to the Super Chat, We got a video voicemail from my discord. So guys, make sure you join us submit your videos and hey, who knows? We might even Show it on the show. Let's take a look This one comes from twig Yo, what's good night cat family? It's your boy Tristan. Y'all see who I'm rocking I don't see us in the Western Conference finals best believe it best believe it. Um, oh, Joe I just wanted to say I appreciate everything y'all do, you know y'all keep me going Y'all take a good two hours out of my night shift. So I just wanted to say I appreciate y'all. And Ocho, you need to stop playing with my boy Jerry Jones like that, man. You already see what he's doing in free agency? What? Hey, we're going to get picked what he deserves and more. And we got something coming. I feel it, bro. Let me be delusional. Yeah. Slurpachino, let's go. Devin Lloyd to the Carolina Panthers. out of the South and a playoff push. I thought he played really well for Jacksonville, Ocho. I like this. I like what the Panthers are doing. They got a nice look. Look, got to the playoffs last year. You see what the quarterback, Bryce Young, got better. Those receiving core, McMillan, was offensive rookie of the year. Now they just need, hey, just get a little better and better. Just improve on that defense. You know, your big Derrick Brown and you got some pieces. You got Devin Lloyd now. I like this. I like what Carolina's doing. Yeah, big time. 13th Cabin, Saints are up and coming for my Spurs. Might be champ soon. It's been a good few months. Also, Ocho, look like DMX little brother with that back on first take. You on first take? Uh-uh. R. Pruitt. Hey, listen. Hey, if you ain't on first take, I ain't going on first take. R. Pruitt, Mike Embers ruined Buck's legacy by abandoning ship. Most teams push players out of his age, but he took less money to leave after already getting a ring and a Hall of Fame career. That's a slap in our face. Man, please. Don't nobody know the numbers. He ain't take no less nothing. Big Perk, hey, guys, your podcast is fire. Best on the night side. that Shea is smooth as baby's bottom Ocho you ought to give away one of your cigars to go with that Shea Shea cognac VA stand up love you guys hi Miss Shields we appreciate you man I appreciate the support yeah cause we got that thing down in Virginia it is in Virginia so we was down there we appreciate that Tanya Manning she owned those blue diamonds BTA hook her up tendinism. Lee Mason, who's more delusional? Clarissa thinking she could beat a man or Ocho thinking he could score a point on ISO? Oh, wait, so you telling me whoever this is, you don't believe in me to score a point? One point? One point, Ocho. Man, they got me messed up. They got you all the way messed up, Ocho? They got me all the way messed up. like it's almost it's offensive uh it's disrespectful uh i respect iso joe being the player that he is but saying an elite athlete like myself can go into his game and score one point what man you man stop playing with me uh bd nation unk is not backing down he's standing on business look i just voiced my opinion i don't believe that clarissa can beat a champion male fighter i don't that's not to say that she's not a good fighter but I don't believe that she could and and me and the only thing I said look Chris the only thing I said is that like and you made it personal she's like well yeah I did make it personal because I took it personal because you said I wasn't gonna be able to do something Clarissa that's my opinion that's you do realize that's how opinions work but yeah the great she looks she was a great sport about it she believes it uh me personally I hope it doesn't happen, Ocho. There's a reason why. Ocho, remember how, I mean, over the last couple of years, we've seen men playing these ladies' sports in high school, in college, and people are, it's not fair. They're too strong and yada, yada, yada. There's a reason. Yeah, it is not. It's ridiculous. The fact that they even pass rules to allow them to do that. No, no. You a man, you play a man. What in the world? If you're a woman, you play a woman's sport. don't take your big rusty ass over there trying to compete with the women Habir Gang 268, Ocho this is strike two, you didn't have Unk back versus Asante Samuel and you got real quiet when Carissa's came on don't worry Unk, the chat got you man look got real quiet about what? I said the same thing no man look I think a lot of times the thing I talk to Ocho about I said, we gotta be careful. We can't respond to everything. Because a lot of times people trying to stay in an algorithm and right now, my name, considering what happened last year and everybody knows, you mentioned me and you want to get into a, and then you want our audience to lend the ear to your podcast No we built this We built this podcast We didn take shots at anybody We just felt we produced very very good content We talk about sports We talk about a lot of things, but we didn't take shots at anybody. We didn't put anybody down. To get to where we got, we didn't step on anybody. And that's not what we did. We didn't have to. We didn't have to. No, we're going to say we didn't have to. A lot of people, in order for other people to gain traction, for one what they have to do is they have to turn everything negative and in order to get the views in order to get people's attention with us we've always been authentic in talking sports and talking cultural stuff that is going on in the world today and we do it just being ourselves we don't have to talk about people to to get people's attention or to get people to watch the show and just i think that's what kind of separates from separates us from most because for them in order to get the the needle moving you got to take shots in certain areas yes and i mean at this point i i guess it's it best we just don't respond because we understand what it does for their platform as opposed to ours that's yes i mean but if they don't understand okay you might get a few you might go viral but at some point time they're going and people might click and they want to hear what you got to say at some point time you just can't keep talking about what Shannon was this and Shannon did that and Shannon Sharp this and Shannon Sharp that and Shannon Sharp likes this guy and Shannon Sharp likes that guy at some point in time you're going to have to produce content that doesn't have Shannon Sharp in it at some point in time you're going to have to produce content where you're not trying to say Nightcap is not in it we don't talk about any We give credit. We don't talk about any other podcast because we think our knowledge of a particular sport on given sports, we can talk about things and be serious about it, but we can also make things funny and make lighter situations. And look, everybody's going to take his stuff, run with it. And I see people, stuff that I said in the very beginning, the very beginning, the very first year, the very six, seven months on the show, the first year of the show, they're replaying it now and says, okay, this is why. That ain't why. Get a life, create content where you don't talk about me. Can you do that? No, you can't. That's why your podcast isn't growing. Because people don't tune in to hear you talk about Shannon all the time. Okay, it's fine and good. Maybe I gave you something to talk about. But every other show is about me? I mean, there are times that people are taking shots at Ocho and Ocho. No, don't worry about it. I see they take shots at me. Don't even, hey. Mm-mm. We have an opinion on sports. We don't have an opinion on your podcast or what you're doing. You're perfectly fine to talk about whatever you want to talk about. But at some point in time, your listeners want to hear you talk about something else other than me. I promise you. Yeah. 82, 828 style. Hey, Unc, why didn't you just say no to the question? What question? hey to a i don't understand what why didn't ocho just say no to the question oh he said when i asked do you think she could be rolling and and and and i think that's what that's what he was asking why did you just say no i don't i don't need to i don't need to say no i need to explain it the same way i explained it when we were on together i need to explain it the same way i explained it when she was when she was on her did you hear how she explained it i said i said you would not beat him but you are a better boxer and she said the same thing because it comes down to skill if he catches her she's going to sleep i said that here's the fact i don't need to say no i need to explain it exactly i did fuck you gonna tell me how to answer my damn question here's the thing let me let me if if you ever if you ever get on national television yes sir and you're in debate they don't really do debate like we used to do it at undisputed well yeah back then yeah But if you ever get into a debate, never introduce an argument that doesn't support your case. Because when you say Clarissa has better boxing skills, the only reason you introduce that, if it supports your argument, that she can win. An attorney told me that. He said, Shannon, I'll never introduce an argument that doesn't help my client. Because now what you've done is that, hold on, you said she got better boxing skills. will she win no she does why would you introduce that because now that helps me um okay i see what you mean but but but still because it's a man and woman though that's that that's fact but she's still the better boxer you that that's all right she's the better pure boxer now when you get a chance to watch roley fight again and you see the awkward movements and that's what makes him dangerous herky jerky you'll you'll you'll see what i mean but i mean just because it's a guy you won't win but she's you know who had that herky jerky movement Pack out. Oh, yeah. He always bounced. Yes. He always bounced. And you never know when something's coming. Hey, left, right. You don't know what made Roy dangerous. Oh, yeah. He was like, you think Roy going to hit you with a left, and he boom, right down the middle with a right. And you expected a right, you're sitting on the right, and now he check hook you. Yeah. Those are what makes people dangerous. Yes, sir. Look, Floyd was just supreme. I mean, Floyd is just textbook. The way he can roll with punches, the way he can pull counter, the way he can catch punches. But that's unique. Everybody ain't got that. It's just like everybody can't run routes like JSN. They just can't, Ocho. Everybody can't run routes like you. Now what I got to do is that if I play the wide receiver position and I don't have feet and I'm not smooth like JSN, I still got to get open. Yeah. Yeah. You got to. You got to. I can't because I ain't got feet like Ocho. I don't. So I still have to have a way. And so, but look, she came on here, guys. She explained. She explained her point. The only thing I will say is that you can't take someone's opinion personal. Somebody might not like an actor or an actress. That doesn't mean they're not great. I don't particularly like their movies, so I don't go see them. I still, I think they're phenomenal. but that's just me. Ashley Nunez. Hey, guys. I just wanted to shout out my husband, Bond. Our daughter, Ariel, turned one today. He's been amazing. And I also want to say, Ocho scared of Clarissa. Ashley, thank you so much. Ariel, tell Ariel happy birthday. Happy one year. Well, I guess you say, I don't know. I guess you say 12 months. I don't think you say two until you say 13 months, 14 months, 15 months. How old is she? She's one, and then you go 13, 14, 15, all the way up to two, and then when you go to so forth and so on. But, Ashley, thank you for your support. Thank you for watching. Tell your husband. Congratulations on the baby. And Ariel, happy first birthday. Terrence G, somebody needs to take Miss Shields' phone, computer, laptop, and social media. Nah, let her have it. Scuba Steve, can you have John Jones or Julio Jones on Club Shay Shay? Been working on it. We're working on it. Trust me. TS, Car Wash Detail Service. If the Clippers getting out of the first round, Kawhi got 45 tonight. Got 45 what tonight? Kawhi had 29 tonight. Did he? I thought he had 29. He had 45? Yeah. Got 45. TS, man, you be on that sauce. D Barna. Show love all the way from Indiana, sipping on Shea Bala Portier. I wish your boy a happy 27th birthday. Shout out to my two favorite, Unc and Big Bro Ocho. D, thank you for the support, man. Appreciate it. You know it's smooth. Hey, you see everybody come on Club Shea Shea, even white guys did something. Man, I ain't never had Con yet. Talk about, man, damn, it's smooth. We got some guys coming up. Some of them drunk a bottle and a half. some of them drunk a whole bottle. In one sitting? In one sitting. Yeah. Man, Ryan turned the thing. I'm like, bro, I thought we were sipping. He's like, oh, I thought we were. No, it's a sipping. Conjac, you don't shoot it. Right. But, you know, we had sidecars made. We had a big old block. You know what I'm saying? So that's the way we're going now. We're going to have two drinks. We're going to have it straight, and then we're going to have, you know, people make sidecars or determination. You know, something like that. So I like that. I like that. I like that. But hey, make sure you go check out that Matt Rife episode. He's unbelievable. I really like him. I told him he invited us to the show. But I didn't get in late. Which one? I didn't get in late to D.C., Ocho. And so by the time I got in, I'd have been rushed to try to get there and try to get back to do nightcap. But Ocho, that joker showed up by himself. No security, no handlers, just walking down the street. Jordan come back like, hey, boss, he here. I was like, who? I said, where's people at? He said, nah, he's just walking down the street by himself. What? But he's amazing. He's amazing. Eric Jordan Scott, Ocho. I got Chelsea over PSG. Man City over Real Madrid. Hey, O. I like that you stood on business with Clarissa. He got good heart. Yes, man. Look, I love it. She thought that she was good enough to. But I really love the fact that the matter is Ocho. Because a lot of times, Ocho, we say stuff. and people don't want to come on to defend their point or what we said. Give her credit. She believes it. She's entitled to believe what she wants to believe. But I felt that I could make my point and I'm not trying to be disrespectful because like I said to Carissa, all the great things that I've said, you bypass that and because I gave you an opinion that I don't think you can beat Rowley, you took what I said first. Ocho, he said he got Chelsea over PSG, Man City over Real Madrid. You got? I like it. PNG is not important right now, so Chelsea probably will win that game. Real Madrid-Man City, that's a tough one. That's a toss-up. That's 50-50. I'm not sure if Mbappe's going to play. I'm not sure how his knee is feeling. He was hurt, but we'll see tomorrow. We'll see tomorrow, so I'm excited. He talked about Champions League. Champions League is tomorrow. It's soccer. King Jip Music. Yo, what's up, Uncle Nocho? It's your boy Kale again. My wife, Terry, has a birthday today, the 10th. Can she get a shout-out? Our birthday's three days apart. Locked in for L for life. Yes, you absolutely can. Kel, thank you, man, for chiming back in. Miss Terry, happy birthday today. Hopefully you did something special. Kel, I know you did something special. Probably took it to a nice dinner. Probably had the rose petals all the way leading up to the bedroom. You know, you all them sparks are already. Nope. Yeah, man. Yep. New bed probably had to reinforce the bed to make sure because you jumping up and down. But happy birthday, Miss Terry. Kale, thank you, man, for the support. We greatly appreciate that. And hopefully you guys do stay locked in for life. Leo DeRose, love the show as always. Will there be any more live shows coming up this summer or in the future? Uno, Ocho Laportier. We're looking at that. That is something that we're weighing. or you know your boy about to have this surgery see how this old knee hold up I can't be out there on crutches nah nah I put you in a wheelchair we put you in a wheelchair we're definitely we're definitely looking into that and if it were it would be it would be kind of like they were last time I think what will we have like July August I think it'll be something like that so we got the World Cup right now obviously we can't do it during the Cup because we're going to be focusing on that. But we'll get back to you. We'll keep you abreast of what our schedule's looking like. Daniel Wells, Uncle Nocho, can you please give my baby, Caitlin, a happy birthday shout-out? Absolutely, Daniel. Caitlin, happy birthday. To you. Hope you did something fun. I don't know. You get a puppy. You get one of those little mini-goats, little mini-horses. Maybe a new car. To you. But, Daniel, thank you for your support, Uncle Nocho. and Kaitlin, happy, happy birthday. Dear Kaitlin, happy birthday to you. Harold Horvitz, the Raiders offense is dead in the water today as Frenchy has secured their future with Fernando Mendoza. Yeah, that looked like a very easy pick. Has Jeffy tell my lady I love her, Miss Erica Hester? Miss Erica Hester? Hester says he love you. simple as that he ain't got nothing else to add no fancy catch no fancy sayings no great wording no funny fonts just he love you it's KJ Gaming one hey um what are your thoughts on G Payton not pursuing the big game players but only resigning players uh and releasing Greenlaw uh look you got Benito, you played Courtney Sutton, you paid Sertan, you played Hufanga, you played Garrett Bowles, your quarterback, you're going to have to do something with him. Bo Nix coming up real soon. So I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised. Look, I think, and I would love to have to keep Franklin, but you can't keep everybody. And when you're good, I mean, you're going to lose good players. That's just the way it is. It's Maddie. 17 is closer to a ring than 8. Let's talk about it, especially if Pat isn't in the way. Well, look, Josh has lost a couple of AFC Championship games to Mahomes. Yeah. Lamar's lost one to Mahomes. It's six in one hand, half a dozen in the other. Until one actually get there, who are we to say that who's closer? Are we sure? Because it's not like Buffalo, I mean, Pat was removed and what Baltimore didn't make it and Josh didn't play well. Barry Gang 268, which receiver tandem will have a better year? Chase Higgins, Lamb Pickens, and which team will miss the playoffs earlier? I mean, you can't guess what team is going to miss the playoffs this early. I can tell you who's going to have a better season. Chase Higgins? Yeah. And listen, they're not going to be too far behind if they're together. If they're together. I'm just saying. That completes this episode of Nightcap. We want to thank each and every one of you for joining us. Y'all know who I am. I'm your favorite and my partner and co-host, the Cincinnati Chaddy, great, six-time Pro Bowler, all-pro, Chad Ochocinco Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button. Do us a favor. 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