Summary
Kentucky Sports Radio hosts discuss the SEC basketball tournament beginning with Kentucky playing in the opening game for the first time since 1979, Mark Pope's coaching adjustments and roster construction philosophy, and the impact of injuries on tournament contenders like Duke. The team aims to salvage their season with a tournament run while addressing defensive and offensive balance issues.
Insights
- Mark Pope's defensive-focused roster adjustment in year two overcorrected from year one's offensive emphasis, creating vulnerability across the board rather than solving Alabama's dominance
- Modern college basketball GM roles are evolving toward analytics and modeling rather than traditional player personnel, creating friction with experienced basketball minds expecting traditional GM responsibilities
- Tournament seeding and early-round matchups create psychological and logistical disadvantages that extend beyond on-court performance, affecting fan attendance and team preparation routines
- Injury timing in March significantly impacts tournament viability—Duke's loss of Caleb Foster demonstrates how mid-tier players can be difference-makers in tournament runs
- Historical tournament success creates fan expectations that current performance cannot meet, requiring active reframing of goals and narrative management
Trends
Analytics-first approach to roster construction replacing traditional scouting in college basketball coachingIncreased emphasis on defensive metrics and modeling in roster building, sometimes at expense of offensive firepowerTournament preparation methodology shifting from arena-specific practice to maintaining consistent daily routines and schedulesInjury impact on tournament seeding and NCAA tournament projections becoming more predictable and quantifiableFan engagement and attendance patterns shifting based on game timing and scheduling rather than traditional tournament loyaltyCoaching staff expansion to include dedicated analytics and modeling roles separate from traditional GM functionsMulti-year coaching transitions requiring narrative reset and expectation management with fan bases
Topics
SEC Tournament Seeding and Scheduling ImpactCollege Basketball Roster Construction PhilosophyAnalytics and Modeling in College Basketball ManagementTournament Preparation and Practice MethodologyInjury Impact on Tournament ViabilityFan Engagement and Attendance PatternsCoaching Staff Structure and GM Role EvolutionNCAA Tournament Projection ModelsDefensive vs. Offensive Balance in Roster BuildingHistorical Tournament Performance and Narrative ManagementPlayer Development and Transfer Portal StrategySalary Cap and Win-Share ModelingMarch Madness Momentum and Team PerformanceConference Tournament Curse and Venue PsychologyRecruiting and Prospect Evaluation
Companies
Netflix
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iHeartRadio
Podcast distribution platform for multiple shows including DJ Hester Prince's Music is Therapy and Game Recognized Game
Apple Podcasts
Podcast distribution platform mentioned for multiple shows including Here's the Thing and Game Recognized Game
Grand Ole Opry
Mentioned in context of Aaron Weber's performance schedule at Comedy Off-Broadway
Stockton Mortgage
Primary sponsor of Kentucky Sports Radio broadcast
Clark's Puppet Shop
Sponsor of KSR phone line 859-280-2287
A-Vision Auto Glass
Sponsor of KSR text machine line 772-774-5254
TJ Smith Law Office
Sponsor of KSR episode with personal injury focus
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Sponsor offering high-yield savings accounts with up to 4% APY
American Lung Association
Co-sponsor of vaping awareness campaign with Ad Council
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Co-sponsor of vaping awareness campaign with American Lung Association
People
Matt Jones
Host of Kentucky Sports Radio discussing SEC tournament and Kentucky basketball coaching decisions
Mark Pope
Kentucky basketball coach discussing roster construction, GM role, and tournament preparation strategy
Shea Gilgis Alexander
Former Kentucky player now with Oklahoma City Thunder, broke NBA record for consecutive 20-point games
John Calipari
Former Kentucky coach referenced for SEC tournament success and departure to Arkansas
Caleb Foster
Duke point guard who suffered broken foot, impacting Duke's national championship viability
Cam Williams
Kentucky player returning to practice after injury, potential impact on tournament performance
Daniel Hager
On3 analyst who compiled Kentucky SEC tournament highlight package discussed on show
Wilt Chamberlain
NBA legend whose 20-point game streak record was broken by Shea Gilgis Alexander
Bill Self
Kansas basketball coach whose potential retirement was discussed based on text machine rumor
Travis Kelce
NFL player whose mother Donna Kelsey's home renovation was discussed as celebrity news
Joe Linardi
Bracketologist who provided NCAA tournament seeding projections for Kentucky
Quotes
"We need somebody that can model for us 24 seven, that can do salary cap models, that can do windshare models that can do comparison research in terms of us trying to have some just get as deep in the details of managing the roster construction as we can"
Mark Pope•Press conference during episode
"It's very embarrassing when you look at the brackets and right there in the top left corner the first team you see is Kentucky playing the first game on Wednesday to me that just kind of stings and hurts a little bit"
Drew•Early in episode
"We have had plenty of time this year to be bummed. Plenty of time. I've been as bummed as anybody. But you got three weeks really this week and the first couple weeks of the NCAA tournament where you could turn your entire season around"
Matt Jones•Mid-episode
"If you're scared go to church"
Will Stein (referenced)•Referenced from previous day
"Shea's on a fast track to be that guy. I mean if you're ranking the best NBA players at Kentucky today Issel is one AD is two but I think even today Shea is three and I think in two years he's going to be one"
Drew•During NBA discussion
Full Transcript
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It is one of those days where I can see the phone line, so I can put you on. Clark's Puppet Shop phone line, 859-280-2287. The text machine, A-Vision Auto Glass, 772-774-5254. And this edition is sponsored by the TJ Smith Law Office. If you call TJ, he'll make them pay. It is the day before the SEC tournament. One of my favorite events of the year begins in Nashville. And for the very first time, it begins with Kentucky in the opening game. Kentucky has not played on the opening day of the SEC tournament since 1979. But they will do it tomorrow against South Carolina to start the whole thing off. Ryan and Drew in Lexington it is not something we're used to to playing at one o'clock on Wednesday but we are and just got to hope we definitely get a victory right I I gotta admit it's very embarrassing when you look at the brackets and right there in the top left corner the first team you see is Kentucky playing the first game on Wednesday to me that just kind of stings and hurts a little bit well it but it's here and so now they need to win Mark Pope said yesterday that they are going down there to win 5-5. That was his phrase. Can they, Drew, any confidence you could win 5-5? No, but I will say, and I think it stinks as much as anyone, I'm sad. Once I get in the state of Tennessee, I'm leaving all this negativity back. I'm excited for the team. Well, no, I'm still going to complain today, and I complained a lot Sunday. It is outrageous that we're the first game. That is embarrassing. I even wrote that it's gross. but I'm not going to take that energy into Bridgestone Arena. But at the same time, I just don't see a world where they win five straight or even four straight. Yeah, I mean, look, it'll be very, very difficult to do that, if not impossible. But I do think, you know, I think Kentucky can easily win two, get to the game on Friday, play Florida. You've got a third chance at it if you win. and you know the for their NCAA bracket Joe Linardi said yesterday if they were to win two and lose to Florida they might even go back up to a six seed uh so that's good what you can't do is take a loss to LSU because if you do you might end up in that eight nine game and staring a one seed in the face in the second round if you were to get there so I think the LSU game and even the Missouri game I mean I think there's some pressure on Kentucky to win a couple games I got excited though this morning because Daniel Hager who works for On3 used to does stuff for KSR he put together a 30 minute package of the most exciting Kentucky highlights of the SEC tournament in history and I watched about half of them this morning and I'm going to watch the other half this afternoon I highly recommend it now you could get nostalgic and go man we haven't had some of that because I will tell you there aren't many Ryan since 2020 not surprised most of them are before 2020 but man I was just sitting there watching and and and he starts it with the maybe the most famous which is the wall and cousins one but there are things I'd forgotten like Winyan going seven for seven from three against Alabama yeah right how about this how about Steve Masiello hitting back-to-back threes against Arkansas to finish a game? Don't remember that one. How about Patrick Sparks throwing a pass between his legs against Tennessee, a bounce pass? Do you remember that one? Don't remember that one either. How about Corey Sears on a fast break going behind the back to Gerald Fitch for a dunk? Come on, that had to be AI. Corey Sears behind the back. Corey Sears behind the back. It's the only living proof that Corey Sears played at Kentucky. I think is that clip. So it's very exciting. It's on Daniel Hager's Twitter. But I'm hoping, Ryan, that we get one or two of those memories this weekend because we really haven't had any memory in the SEC tournament since 2020. We all know, remember what happened when Cal's last game against Texas A&M and he's walking off the floor and that fan is leaning over the rail screaming at him, is this the gold standard, Cal? Is this the gold standard? Because it used to be that was our tournament. We owned it. We went down there. We took over the town. And then we cut down the nets when it was over. That was what Kentucky basketball was all about. And I missed those days. We've lost six out of eight games in the SEC tournament. That's what I was going to say. So what have we won? That's crazy. Last year we beat Oklahoma. Yes. And then. That was a last second shot to do that though. Yeah. That was exciting though. And then we turned around and lost by 30. Okay. What? Everybody let. Okay. I'm serious now. I'm decreeing we can have these conversations. But the gloom and doom, Ryan, like the gloom and doom, it is what it is at this point. Right? I mean, we can't, like, I am just as frustrated about all this as anybody else. But this is the most exciting month of the year. Do we not have any positive energy in us? I'm already packed and excited. I thought we were listing how bad the last few years have been. No, I was excited. Actually, that's not what I was talking about. I talked about how exciting these highlights were. I thought we just said we won last year. We beat Oklahoma, but then we lost by 30. I'm happy. You said that. I didn't say it. You said it. Well, I mean, that happened. I'm trying to paint the excitement because it's been so bad lately. Carry on. My bad. It is the reality. We did lose by 30. I mean, that happened. I know, but you can't say it and then go, I thought somebody said it. You're the one that said it. OA had the shot last year. I'm trying to think, what's the other game we've won since COVID? we won we won the first one in tampa and then that's right before we lost to tennessee and then he went home to see his dogs that's right we won that i don't that was vandy i think we beat you shannon you beat me yeah yeah because you all were like up 20 in that game yeah and then we came back game yeah scotty pippen had a crazy good game yeah and we came back and and won So I'd like to see us, can we match our last six years win total with two wins, Drew? I think we get two. I think we just run into a buzzsaw on Friday. That's just, I don't care if you think Kentucky has turned a corner and they're a great team. To win three straight with Florida being the third just waiting for you, I think is a tough challenge. But I feel good about getting two on Wednesday and Thursday. LSU, of course, had a big lead on us earlier this year. I think that would be the disaster if you found a way to lose that game Shannon how do we feel or excuse me Ryan how do we feel about LSU I'm a little scared just because we all watched that game they jumped out on us 19 points we had to have a miracle shot by Malachi to win that game but here's my positivity we get down there you get the buzz the big blue nation rolls in you get a little buzz and you get a little excitement then you win one game do our big show on Thursday morning more excitement win that second game then you get a party thursday night going to friday everybody's excited and feeling a little optimistic because you're riding that big blue wave high that's my optimistic for it so i wonder how many people are going tomorrow that's because most people usually make the decision to make the trip sometime during the day wednesday or early thursday How many people do we think will be going to that game tomorrow? I mean, LSU will have no fans there. So will it be a crowd there tomorrow, do you all think? I think it's going to set the record for the most attended first game of the SEC tournament in history. Well, that one year, remember they opened it up free. It was packed. It was packed. That was the one year in Nashville. they just had it be free and it was packed it was like people just like oh we can go somewhere let's just walk in there that was the night game though it was a night game i think yeah for the first game for an 11 30 central time start usually there's you know only the vendors and the guys sweeping the floors in there yeah i mean last year was the first time they did that i don't even think we went last year so this will be this will be i mean we're not even going to be down there yet so drew what do you think we're gonna have fan wise i think the oddly the upper level general mission will be pretty full because it's ten dollars right but then the people that bought the lowers won't maybe not be there yet interesting for me i usually know a billion people going to this i've been getting mostly no's and the handful of people i know that are going aren't going for the game they're going wednesday night and hoping we're in it thursday now that's just my circle i I mean, I can't speak for the fan base, but I'm expecting record low turnouts, at least of what I'm used to seeing. Well, I don't know what it's going to be like Wednesday. I do think if they get to Thursday, because it's looked all year like we might play on Thursday, I do think you'll get a lot of Kentucky fans there Thursday. You know, our show will be at 10 Roof on Thursday, and so I hope everybody plans to come. Here's the show schedule tomorrow and Thursday. Because the game is at 1230, our show ends at 11. So what we're going to do is we're going to combine KSR and the pre-show into one show from 9 to 11. So KSR tomorrow will actually start at 9 a.m., go 9 to 11, and then it will go into the official show at noon. And that's what we'll also do at Tin Roof on Thursday. So we'll actually be going very early on Thursday morning. So I hope we have a lot of people there. For me, this is how I'm approaching SEC tournament, and for that matter, the NCAA tournament. We have had plenty of time this year to be bummed. Plenty of time. I've been as bummed as anybody. But you got three weeks really this week and the first couple weeks of the NCAA tournament where you could turn your entire season around You could even make an argument You turn the entire narrative of Mark Pope around Ryan, I'm going to spend the next three weeks rooting for that. Because to some extent, what other choice do we have? We don't really have any other choice. So why not try to enjoy it and hope it works out? And we've seen it happen before. We talk about the 2014 team, even the 2011 team kind of struggled through the SEC season and then caught fire in March. I mean, it could still happen. The 2011 team went and I – did they win the SEC tournament? I think they did. I think they did. Yeah. And the 2014 team went and got to the finals and lost when James Young slipped against Florida. Yes, that's right. But that was a Florida team we didn't think we'd have any chance of beating. No. And they played them right down to the final play. and lost that was in atlanta i believe so you know i don't know that that's gonna happen but it might and so kind of that uh drew is how i'm i'm how my mindset is going yep and um again i feel pretty confident about wednesday and thursday and you know we want more but that can still be fun winning those games we just need to flip the switch on nashville that city has been cursed so if we can get a couple and you get to that florida game we'll at least have the excitement of playing the SEC champ and taking that shot, and then we'll see what happens. But one game at a time, and hopefully it goes well. I do wonder if, Shannon, we were there when COVID kind of officially broke. Right. I still remember we were sitting in that suite watching two random teams play. And then you go, did you see this? Tom Hanks has COVID. Tom Hanks. I remember Tom Hanks has COVID. Within like 30 minutes, Tom Hanks has COVID. they canceled that Oklahoma City game because of Rudy Gobert yes right yeah and then uh Trump closed the airspace around the country like you couldn't fly in and out it felt like that night the world was ending it did in like 30 minutes yeah it felt like the entire world was ending and then since then Drew's right we've been awful in Nashville every time we've gone there for anything it is time to break the nashville curse ryan do you still have the stage i got some sage we can get out and burn it do you want to bring the sage i'll bring it if we're going to burn it and burn this is the sage you got wet though that went in that's still in seattle yeah that flower pot flower pot somewhere in seattle all right so we will burn the sage well we'll start in bowling green tomorrow and then burn it, the rest of it in Nashville. Is that a deal? Perfect. You should just roll the window down and just go down the highway. Go down the highway with Sageburg. All right. 859-280-2287. We'll open up the phones. You all, we're going to, this is kind of a ask anything or say anything Tuesday as we get ready for the weekend. It is, you know, it's a chance to salvage the season and it's also a chance to sort of salvage the narrative. and what is happening with the phones people call why are they all hanging up do they get scared if you're going to call don't be scared if you're scared go to church that's exactly right Will Stein told us that yesterday if you're scared go to church we've had like four people call Shannon puts them on hold then they hang up we'll tell them to stop we'll take a break be right back it's KSI Hi I'm Danielle Robay host of Bookmarked the podcast by Reese's Book Club and this week on Bookmarked we're basically hosting the ultimate girls night. Reese Witherspoon, Jennifer Garner, Judy Greer, Rita Wilson, and Gauri Rice and author Laura Dave. 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To hear this and more, listen to Keep It Positive, Sweetie on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. welcome back we are uh it's kentucky sports radio it looks like there also could be a problem technological wise shannon which is not abnormal no way that's never had an eye heart it looks like lines two five and six yeah we'll just hang up on people right one three and four there it goes yeah it's like literally all right so so just put drew on the phone really quick on line two all right there you go all right drew are you there drew yeah all right i want you to start talking and let's see if it hangs up on you go ahead yep there it goes it hung up on you yep how do we have these problems that's a good question this our tech is like kentucky's sec tournament performance it really is it's unpredictable all right well we have three people who it hasn't hung up on so we'll do them i'm not gonna answer these yeah don't answer them because they're just gonna end up it comes gus all right hopefully gus will uh we'll get we'll fix it one person writes matt we are going because we pay so much for the sec tournament but i've never been excited about it less i'm hoping i get down there and feel the energy. I mean, you will. There is a sense in which there is energy that happens as soon as you get down there. And I do think that'll be good. One person writes, Matt, we've gone 13 straight years. It's not even so much the way we play. It's just now Nashville is so expensive. Drew, that is an issue. Although I will tell you, I looked at price when my group decided to go. I think it's actually much cheaper for this than it's been the last four or five years because i think they just overbuilt everything do you agree yeah they've added certainly going back to when it first got to nashville there's so many more hotels i also think you know there's teams are better but like with kentucky fans we kind of knew every friday one o'clock that's our game i think might not be as booking things as early as it has in the past because especially this year a lot of teams didn't have a clue where they'd be until the last moment so some stuff was still open and maybe people decided not to even go this probably will Ryan be the return of a bajillion Arkansas fans going you know like they they used to do that for years and then they kind of stopped and I and they're good and they've been good all year whereas that last time they kind of weren't I think you're going to see a ton of hogs people down there you know I hadn't thought about that but that that's a good call because they're they're I've always felt like they were the second best SEC fan base to travel to the without question and so now that they're kind of rolling again cal's got them going i i bet you're right i think there will be a big crowd of arkansas fans all right well hopefully this starts working uh we have gus allen on line two that hangs up on him then uh we're testing it with gus yeah 859-280-2287 i want to note something from yesterday did any uh anyone but me watch the oklahoma the thunder versus nuggets i didn't see it caught the sports center highlights but didn't I watched it live. I watched it live. Shea Alexander and Jokic was an amazing battle. Like, if you like basketball, both of them, obviously Shea played for us, but Jokic and Shea are so much fun to watch, and they just went back and forth and back and forth. Shea hit two threes down the stretch to win, which were crazy shots. But in the process, Shea Gilgis Alexander broke the all-time NBA record for most 20-point games in a row. It was held by Wilt Chamberlain. Golly. And Shea has scored 126 in a row 20-point games. 126 in a row. It blows my mind to hear that. That's crazy. That's crazy. And he's our guy. And he didn't start when he first got here because of Quade Green. He kind of became a star here at the SEC tournament. didn't he win the SEC tournament MVP I think he did he started start he started being good in SEC play and then he was the SEC tournament MVP but Drew is he gonna finish his career the best Kentucky NBA player of all time yes because I think in a few months he's gonna have his second MVP trophy in his second NBA ring and he's still young which is outrageous and we know that team he's probably not done so yeah I mean we think of Anthony Davis unfortunately injuries got him I think Shea's on a fast track to be that guy I mean if you're ranking the best NBA players at Kentucky today Issel is one AD is two but I think even today Ryan Shea is three and I think in two years he's going to be one I'm trying to think of guys nobody's ever obviously won an MVP, but it's some all-star guys. Rondo's got a ring, but I wouldn't put him above Shea. But he's not on the level of Issel, Davis, or Shea. Yeah, I agree. Max Byrne and Rex are probably in the top 10. Tayshaun had a good run. Yeah. Shea's the MVP. I know it. If Shea stopped his career today, I think he's probably No. 3. And he's going to be No. 1. And Kentucky fans, when he was here, would just have never fathomed that could be true. Cal just kind of took him as a late addition just as the backup point guard like not really was enough no fanfare about the guy or anything. He wasn't even a McDonald's All-American in that time that everyone we had was he was not and he's going to end up being the best player to ever play here in the NBA. Jason, go ahead Jason Good morning guys, thanks for taking Good morning Jason Wade, I hope you're doing well I am wondering what you guys think about roster construction last year versus this year. It seems like last year, all of the guys were kind of the man where they came from. You know, Amari was three-time conference defensive player of the year, first team all-conference. Butler was a Final Four hero. Jackson Robinson was an NBA prospect. And it kind of feels like all the guys we took this year were the sixth, seventh, or eighth men on their team. You know no offense to Zell He played great No offense to Mo He played great the last month But other SEC schools kind of just let those guys go So I not sure Well they didn let them go They wanted to keep them. They wanted to keep them. But I do think you're right. I think the way I would articulate it is in the first year, Pope tried to find a bunch of guys who could score and play what he thought his system was. And then in the second year, He tried to adjust it to the realities of defense in the SEC, and it didn't work. I mean, it didn't work. It turns out that when you get a bunch of guys who, in theory, are there for defense and hustle or whatever, you still got to have dudes to put it in the basket. And I appreciate the call. I think that was the thing to me, Drew, is he adjusted because of how bad Alabama beat us last year in every game. and in adjusting for Alabama we ended up making ourselves susceptible to be beaten by everybody yeah you overcorrected a little too much with the defense uh especially Diabate who I love but at the four with the way Pope plays they need a shooter there and even though Diabate nailed that three against Florida we know he's it's not exactly his strength that was amazing three to it like it was it was like it almost died in the basket but yeah go ahead I almost died when he was shooting it then it went in that was one of those no no no yeses but i also think he put way too much faith in some guys to make a jump and then they didn't make a jump and they didn't they didn't it'll be interesting to see now what way does he go this time because it'll be you know which way you're gonna go we hope the phone lines will work it's hard to know shannon probably not we'll take a break be right back ksr call me tj smith personal injury attorney call tj he'll make them pay now More of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Here's Matt Jones. All right. Let's do a couple things here. First of all, is Mark Pope having a press conference right now? At this moment. Okay. Because there's some quotes coming out that we should talk about. First of all, I mentioned last week they had posted a job opening on the website for UK Athletics that made it look like it might be a gym. But then the more you looked at it, it looked like it probably wasn't a GM. So at his press conference, Shannon, I want you to do Mark Pope speak here. Okay. Yeah. I'm going to read you. He was asked about the job opening and here's what he said. We need somebody that can model for us 24 seven, that can do salary cap models, that can do windshare models that can do comparison research in terms of us trying to have some just get as deep in the details of managing the roster construction as we can it's important to have somebody that literally 24 hours a day seven days a week is going to be just you know war gaming and modeling over and over and over again so we need a gm or a model i'm not sure which one we need i don't think that sounds like a gym that sounds like a computer nerd right somebody's gonna run the numbers and do that somebody that can model for he uses the word model four times yeah so this goes with i had a conversation yesterday with someone that has talked to him about the job over the last little while. And they said to me that at the time, they kind of thought Pope really wasn't looking for a GM. He was looking for basically someone to do exactly what he's saying right here, run models. Basically looking for an analytics person, not a GM. I thought he was the analytics person. well no he's got people to do it but i think he needs a gm to essentially a lot pick the players not to run models but it sounds like to me if you just read that quote he's not looking for a gm he's looking for a science person drew to give him data and then he's gonna do it yeah the word is he's already had some conversations looking for a gm and those guys either whichever side it didn't work out but if that's what you're bringing to the job interview i could see why people would be like what what in the world what am i doing i'm a gm i'm here to find players and pay them not look at spreadsheets 24 7 do you think he just doesn't want to call it a gm is there like a stubborn streak of i'm not going to call it that but why would he have it i mean that's the the trend that is modern basketball i think he would embrace it salary cap models win share models comparison research that i mean that puts that's the dorkiest sounding is that gonna make you win basketball games i don't know how about we get and players well i mean okay i'm not like i don't i don't know it's why can't he just call it a gm does he just not want to call it a gm i guess this is me just guessing he seems might be a guy likes to have a little bit control we know some people like that and maybe just doesn't want the optics of i am handing off part of this job that i've wanted forever to someone else when the people before me never handed it off now times are different and it's okay to hand it off but i think maybe in his brain he might not see it that way and then i also worry i brought this up before patino fired his gm like two months ago yeah and we all know how he leans on patino but if you believe what people have said the agents and stuff part of pope's weakness is like dealing with the agents and all of that do you think this person who's good at models is going to be good at that that the the gm hat yeah maybe it is some analytics but it's also dealing with the parents, the kids. It's also dealing with people. Now, Duke announces this morning, Caleb Foster, their point guard, is out with a broken foot. That's huge for them. Duke was going to be my pick to win a national championship, and now I don't think you can pick that if they've lost their point guard. I think you have to say they're still good, but I think now without... I mean, he was their second or third best player. they're i don't think you can pick them to win the title now drew right no not with that i mean as good as boozer is i think that's a too big of a hit with as good as michigan arizona florida other contenders up there with them they're still gonna be really good and i think they're still probably one of the best five teams but i don't think you can pick them to win a title without him so that's a big deal that's now a couple teams that had a chance to win the title that have lost their guy JT Toppin for Texas Tech I don't think Carolina was going to win the title but Caleb Wilson was you know they were he was good and now this guy basically three of the top 15 teams has now lost a player that I think is huge does little boozer now become their point guard probably but he's a he's a drop off yeah you're basically gonna have to see cam boozer just go crazy the whole tournament which he can though he's really really good uh all right so we still only have three lines at work. We'll try those. Taylor, go ahead, Taylor. Yeah, Matt. So two things, a comment. It may be the most expensive resale value of a first session of the SEC tournament. What is the, what does the resale market look like? The cheapest tickets I saw in game time were $59 for section 301. Okay. Well, maybe there'll be more people there than we realize, Or it might be a lot of people who bought them, assuming Kentucky fans would buy them up, and they won't. We'll have to wait and see. But that's a good sign in terms of people being there. Certainly. Question. Mark Pope last night made some comments about Cam practicing again. What are your thoughts? Do you think that there's a chance he's available on Wednesday? I'll hang up and listen. Yeah, so Cam Williams is practicing with the team. Again, this was on his radio show. I kind of heard it, Drew, as if he might play this week. Did you? It sounded optimistic. I mean, I'd be very impressed how that could happen because he didn't even start running, really, it sounds, just recently. But if he could get in and just give you a few minutes to spell someone, I don't expect him to come in and win MVP or anything crazy. But, I mean, if he could just give some minutes, that'd be huge. He'd be a huge impact. Huge impact. Because if somebody shuts down Chandler, now you can stick him in there and have him get minutes. So if he's going to play, I do, Ryan, feel better. I don't think it fundamentally changes the team's flaws, but I do think it makes them better. It does kind of sound like they want to maybe play him just baby steps, just play him a little bit early on, and maybe that way when they get to the NCAA tournament next week he might be able to put in more time. But not just as a shooter, but just as a defender too on the wing, on the perimeter. He was one of our best defenders before he got hurt. Can I bring up one practice concern? Yes. I don't want to be negative, but this actually bothered me yesterday, and I think Pope answered for it today. The schedule comes out. We get from media. It's like this big pamphlet. And Kentucky is the only team not practicing in Bridgestone. It has the practice schedule. Yeah, I think that's important. So if you play on the first day, the SEC lets you do practice in the arena. And seven of the eight teams said they were going to do it, but one said no, and that was Kentucky. We are not practicing in the arena. So that bothered you. Why did it bother you? Because last time we were there, we went down 19-2. So I just figured, of all the teams that should prep, maybe it's not a big deal. But when that schedule came out and it had every team, I was a little surprised. So what did he say today? Tyler just texted me because it's all going on. It says, we want to reproduce the schedule of the day as best we could. So we couldn't do that with our slotted time there. It also recreates our normal travel schedule. so we're trying to have our day before the game as close to proximity analytics but i would prefer i'm not an expert maybe they win by 50 i would hope they'd get shots up in bridgestone the numbers say keep your schedule the same go to bed at the same time every night wake up the same time every morning that's what the analytics say yeah the schedule has worked out so well for them this year already yeah and we're being positive i'm not trying to be negative but when that schedule i know but when i saw that you are it had seven of eight teams and i was like Is this a typo? Where's the Kentucky practice? Kentucky did refuse to do it. We're the only team that did that. But that was his reason. That's got my antennas. Kevin, go ahead, Kevin. Speaking of the GM, there was a rumor. It's a TikTok guy, but his whole channel is Kentucky. It's not that one guy, though, that's always just stirring stuff up, right? He is annoying. I don't know. Is he the African-American kid that just stares in the camera and says we stink? No. Okay. All right. That guy, don't ever listen to that guy. But somebody else, go ahead. So he said there was a rumor that UK is looking at a GM. The guy was on a previous coaching staff at Kentucky. He's in the NBA now. He's in the – he used to be a scout. Yeah, I know who they're talking about. I know who they're talking about. And I don't think that as of today, that's not who they're looking at. Okay. All right. And then what do you guys think about the rumors that Tyron Stokes has heated up again with UK? Well, I mean, that I don't know. I mean, that it sounds like – I mean, he did an interview where he said, I like Kansas better, but I'll go to Kentucky if it doesn't work out. As I've said, I'm okay being the rebound. you know if a number one prospect number one prospect wants you you take him you take him and then you you work out the relationship later shannon like yeah yeah yeah i mean and he needs to prove that he can get one of these guys right he needs a big home run recruit really needs anybody right now but i mean if you can get the number one guy you get them you take chances are everyone listening your wife would have rather gone out with brad pitt but they got you which is ryan's look alike i hear that all the time so you know if she could have had brad pitt she would have done that but it did she ended up with you that doesn't mean you don't have a great life i did have say someone say to me that they didn't think drew my relationship analogies to basketball very good you're trying though yeah that's sometimes they're stretched a little bit i think it's pretty good to think that you're a second or third choice to brad pitt i guess in this analogy kansas is brad pitt yeah well who are we steve carell we're right we're george clooney we all saving for something but what if you save for something the number four a uk credit union we want you to get to your saving goals faster So if you have a high savings account you can get rates as high as 4 APY on balances up to That pretty good Plus, there's no minimum, no monthly service charge, and no restrictions. 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I do remember that yeah we're going to see if they're right it would be as first reported on the KSR text machine but it that let me just say this about the KSR text machine it gets every story okay it had the Mitch retirement story I found out Mitch was retiring from the text machine and I put the the post up on ks board ryan it was everything comes first from the text machine you all collectively have more scoop than any person individually now you have to filter through the fact that sometimes people say things that are not correct right but i've kind of learned how to figure it out if you're right or not and the text machine gets all the text machine is the one remember that broke it to me that the Padres manager you remember when I broke the Padres manager story came from the text machine what a bizarre incident that was so maybe if Brad if Bill Self retires uh drew another text machine machine success which could indirectly uh you know get stokes here and it could have all started with a text at Paul Miller uh Bill Self was asked about his retirement this weekend he said as long as he feels okay he'll keep doing it but it was but he didn't say whether he feels okay yeah who knows how he'll feel we don't know how he feels do we no i think he feels bad he's been really grumpy lately he got thrown out of a game last week yes probably now uh by the way i yesterday uh ryan brought up boone's butcher shop turns out they do still run ads with us how about that so they've got to be your longest in the louisville market but they do run it so get your hair chopped get your meat chopped that's right it was boone's butcher shop boone's boone's uh yesterday on my twitter feed all anyone was talking about drew was that uh travis kelsey's mom is remodeling her house why i saw that too tmz had a graphic that's a donna kelsey home renovation donna kelsey is renovating her house that's how you know you're famous when your mom can renovate their house shannon and that's what people talk about why does it why are we why is anybody talking people were into it who cares about her house i think taylor swift effect i think people like her and they want to know what she does to her house i like you too but if you renovate your house i wouldn't care well i am going to be renovating my house you can't renovate a house that you rent no but i'm i i'm under contract now to buy he's in wow yay he's growing up right in front of our eyes breaking news with ryan lemon the realtor wow you're under contract yeah so i guess it's not you know i don't know it's under contract that's a that's a big deal got your home inspection today home inspection today um what's your first renovation gonna be buying furniture well that's not renovation really i have to furnish the whole house yeah and i don't know how to do it i'm gonna have to hire like a designer i don't know who does that there you get well who does that somebody listening well somebody listening i'm sure does but how do i decide who to pick i don't know you're gonna have a shoe room a room for all your shoes no i mean the house exists it's just i have nothing to put in it because the stuff i have shannon i can't i have like two things that are worth keeping so you're not gonna move any of your stuff i'm gonna take that really nice desk i have in my house bookshelf i'm gonna take the bookshelf but probably going to get a new bed leave that nasty refrigerator there yeah i mean get food in there most of the stuff is stuff i've had for 15 or 20 years it's just time to grow up right yes yeah wow who are you and what happened to matt jones i'm keeping all the shoes well sure your hood but i mean i have to this is candle this is a decent size house i have to figure i gotta put stuff in it you're gonna need a lawnmower tools i'm not hey i bet you put a family in it i think first a couch can't make a family first a couch then we'll go to fam but i don't know who designs house like in interior i mean i have the house but the interior of it yeah there there are companies that don't they can help you if you want how do you pick who to do you look at their google reviews yeah but i those lie people people they pay people right well probably some of them i need somebody who understands my style what type of style are you i don't know i need somebody to pick my style are you more modern are you yeah i think i want to go more modern this house is temporary this house is contemporary and modern i have a pool don't know what to do with that have a pool party we're having a pool party yeah yeah we're having a pool we'll let ryan grill out and burn your house down no ryan's not gonna get to touch touch any of that you're not going to touch the stove i'll use p rats to do my electronics dude i mean the unlimited amount of endorsement opportunities you have here is incredible that's true because i have nothing exactly except shoes and hoodies because yeah i'm not taking any of my stuff pretty much i probably have a big yard sale one day yeah let us go rummaging through your apartment no no i I mean, I give stuff away all the time. I put pieces of my house outside. There are people all over this city who don't even know they've got stuff. I just walk down the street like a block down the street and leave a table. I've got Matt Jones Conner table. Well, they don't know. They just know they have a table. That's called dumping. Yeah. You can't do it. That's highly illegal. But people take it. Yeah, but you can't just dump your couch outside on the road. It's usually gone within 20 minutes. Yep. They'll refinish it and they'll sell it and make a profit on it. People come, like if you put stuff outside your house, people will take it within minutes. Yep. You're the big dumper. I am the best dumper. Who knew that you were just dumping furniture? I think I told you. I saw a man, a homeless man wearing some of my shoes recently that I just put outside. Oh, I didn't know that. That's nice. I thought that actually, well, it was nice. He had, like, they were nice shoes. 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