Summary
Tony Kornheiser discusses NFL playoff implications, college football bowl games, and the Patriots' remarkable turnaround from 4-13 to playoff contention. Guest appearances from Chuck Todd on sports betting picks and Bob Ryan on Boston sports history and the NBA's globalization.
Insights
- The Los Angeles Rams' inconsistent performance and cold-weather vulnerability make their playoff prospects uncertain despite Matthew Stafford's MVP-caliber play
- Kirk Cousins' 4-2 record as Atlanta starter demonstrates the Falcons' organizational dysfunction in simultaneously committing $180M guaranteed and drafting his replacement
- New England Patriots' 9-7 turnaround under Mike Rabel represents a rare one-season NFL transformation driven by coaching, quarterback development, and schedule advantage
- Foreign-born players now dominate NBA MVP conversations, creating a legitimate debate about who the best American player is—a concept unimaginable a decade ago
- Electronic tax payment mandates without adequate transition periods disproportionately impact older citizens and those without digital infrastructure
Trends
One-season NFL turnarounds becoming more common as coaching changes and quarterback development accelerate competitive cyclesGlobalization of professional basketball talent creating unprecedented international player dominance in MVP votingGovernment digitalization initiatives creating unintended barriers for older and less tech-savvy populationsCollege football portal opening timing creating mid-season recruitment chaos affecting team stabilityBackup quarterback prevalence in Week 17 (11 starters) indicating league-wide injury crisis and depth chart instabilityIndoor golf (TGL) gaining mainstream appeal as alternative winter sports entertainmentTiger Woods' 50th birthday raising questions about senior tour participation and its impact on PGA Tour brand valueCoaching tenure questions in NFL with both Mike Tomlin and John Harbaugh potentially reaching end-of-cycle moments
Topics
NFL Playoff Seeding and Wild Card ImplicationsMatthew Stafford MVP CandidacyKirk Cousins Contract and Organizational DysfunctionNew England Patriots Coaching TurnaroundCold Weather Playoff PerformanceCollege Football Bowl Game PredictionsMiami Hurricanes vs Ohio State Spread AnalysisIndiana Football Undefeated Season LegitimacyNBA Globalization and Foreign Player DominanceNikola Jokic MVP RaceJaylen Brown Performance Without Jason TatumElectronic Tax Payment Mandate ImplementationDigital Infrastructure Equity IssuesTiger Woods Senior Tour EligibilitySandy Koufax 90th Birthday
Companies
ESPN
Promoting TGL indoor golf series with Tiger Woods and other professional golfers as winter sports alternative
Fanduel Sportsbook
Primary sports betting sponsor for Chuck Todd's weekly NFL and college football picks segment
Indeed
Recruitment platform advertising sponsored job listings to reach quality candidates for warehouse operations roles
Bethesda Bagels
Local bagel chain in D.C. area offering mini bagels and other products to podcast audience
Frambridge
Framing service where Tony has appointment to frame matchbook collection
People
Chuck Todd
NBC political analyst providing NFL and college football betting picks with 63-60 record this season
Bob Ryan
Legendary Boston sportswriter discussing Patriots turnaround, NBA globalization, and sports history
Tiger Woods
Celebrating 50th birthday; discussed regarding potential senior tour participation and PGA Tour implications
LeBron James
Celebrating 41st birthday; mentioned alongside Tiger Woods and Sandy Koufax as notable athlete birthdays
Sandy Koufax
Celebrating 90th birthday; identified as greatest living baseball player by Bob Ryan
Matthew Stafford
Los Angeles Rams quarterback discussed as MVP candidate despite multiple interceptions and losses
Kirk Cousins
Atlanta Falcons quarterback with 4-2 record as starter; subject of organizational dysfunction criticism
Mike Rabel
New England Patriots head coach credited with remarkable turnaround from 4-13 to playoff contention
Drake May
New England Patriots quarterback drafted by Elliott Wolfe; key component of Patriots' turnaround
Jaylen Brown
Boston Celtics player having spectacular season with 9 straight 30-point games; only Larry Bird matched this
Nikola Jokic
Denver Nuggets center identified as best player in basketball with irrefutable MVP-caliber statistics
Bill Belichick
Former Patriots coach now at North Carolina; subject of criticism regarding relationship with young woman
Tommy Nobis
Late Atlanta Falcons first draft pick; nephew requesting Hall of Fame consideration based on statistics
Elliott Wolfe
Patriots director of player personnel credited with drafting Drake May and building roster
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
OKC Thunder guard discussed as potential best American NBA player in foreign-dominated MVP landscape
Quotes
"If you are the PGA tour, do you want him playing in senior events? As soon as you get him out there playing fifty four holes in a cart, you devalue everything that you've been trying to build up over the last couple years, right?"
Tony Kornheiser•Early segment on Tiger Woods
"You are educated, intelligent and accomplished. My theory is that you don't want to pay the price for learning a new skill. And I don't blame you when faced with finale after a lifetime of writing music with paper and pencil."
Glenn Winters (email)•Mailbag segment
"If the goal is to get the money, why would you consciously cut out, I don't know, 25 percent of the people out there who are not going to send you the money?"
Tony Kornheiser•Tax payment mandate discussion
"We are now having, you can have a legitimate debate, have it on your show. A debate that would have been unimaginable, well, 20 years ago, 10 years ago, and that is, okay, who's the best American player?"
Bob Ryan•NBA globalization discussion
"The Rams are not a cold weather team. Not as bad as the Miami Dolphins, but they're not a cold weather team."
Tony Kornheiser•NFL playoff analysis
Full Transcript
Hey, it's Tony. If you're hearing this, it means that Nigel has flushed the mouse and forgot to have me record something new. So who knows who our guests will be today? Maybe Mick Jagger, Sandy Kofax, Dally Lamma, long hitter to Lamma. Probably not, but I guess you'll have to tune in to find out. But first, let's keep the sales weasels happy. Previously on the Tony Kornhizer show. Now, you've got to understand this is the holiday season. Everything's 50 percent off and approach up everything. I go, how much is that? You want to take a shot at how much this is with the pro shop discount or the list price? List price. List price. I'm going one fifty. I'll go seventy five dollars. OK, you both under bid. It's one eighty. So that that is jolting. But thanks to my son and his friends, I have shop credit. What would I say, Michael? I got about two hundred fifty dollars worth of credit. You'd have hundreds, given all the holiday terms that you play in. No, I know that being the handicappier. This is General George Washington and you're listening to the Tony Kornhizer show. Let's just stay with golf briefly here, just briefly, because ESPN is putting out all the ads for the TGL series, you know, that indoor golf that I found attractive and easy to watch in the winter. And Wilbarn couldn't stand. And OK, so complex. Yeah, so it all looks it all looks good. And a stinger hole. Yeah, what, you know, what does that mean, a stinger hole? Where you tee off without a driver? It's going to be a tiger hole where they're going to try and force you to play a stinger shot off of the tee. Thank you for mentioning Tiger, because they mentioned Tiger in all the ads. They say more Tiger. Today is Tiger's fiftieth birthday. And I ask my son, do you think he will play in senior events? I think he will play there eventually. But if you are the PGA tour, do you want him playing in senior events? As soon as you get him out there playing fifty four holes in a cart, you devalue everything that you've been trying to build up over the last couple years, right? So do you think that they will intercede and go to Tiger and say, please don't do this because it hurts all of us? I don't think they have to intercede. I think he is in contact enough with the power players. And frankly, his, you know, his recovery process is so far delayed. Yes, compared to others that he's only chipping and putting. And he's he is very, very intentionally tried to quiet down any talk of him playing. Yes, he's not going to play soon, but he is now eligible to play in these events. They don't pay nearly as much as the PGA tour. They don't have any particular prestige. But if Tiger plays in them, things change, right, Michael? Again, this is what I was saying last week with Brooks Kappke. You those of us who watch golf, it's it's such an ageing demo. You have a younger group of players who would actually rather watch influencers play on YouTube and you look at who would be willing to watch men's professional golf on TV, older people. They don't recognize a quarter of the names that you see week in, week out. You obviously the major winners, but you honestly have a better connection with the the nostalgia of watching players from the nineties and early on to one against Tiger. Yes. Yeah. So we'll see. It is his 50th birthday. It's also LeBron James's 41st birthday. It's pretty good double that is for professional athletes. Yeah, I get back to LeBron James. Yeah, we don't. We very rarely do this on the PTI show because we're not on this week till we don't say happy birthday to them. So we do it here. OK, I've said on this show and I've said on the PTI show a number of times and going back weeks and weeks that I like the Los Angeles Rams to get to the Super Bowl. I'm not talking about winning it. I don't know who they're going to play, but I like them to get to the Super Bowl, except for last night. Then I didn't like them very much. Matthew Stafford was intercepted more than once. And I think he's an MVP candidate. He and Drake may, I think, stand out more than anyone else at the moment. But he got intercepted a number of times. The Rams tied the game late in the game and lost on a field goal late in the game. Here's my problem with the Rams. They keep losing and they lose in odd ways. They lost an odd way. Was the guy picked up the two point conversion the other day. Was that Seattle? I think it might have been Seattle. Yeah, they lost on a blocked field goal attempt. Against Philadelphia. They lost really late against San Francisco. So they keep losing. They are now in a position where they're going to finish fifth or sixth in the NFC. They're going to make the playoffs, but they're going to finish fifth or sixth in the NFC. So they're going to be on the road and they're going to have to go on the road, maybe to Chicago, maybe to Philadelphia. It's cold. Yeah, the Rams are not a cold weather team. Not as bad as the Miami Dolphins, but they're not a cold weather team. You say, well, Matthew Stafford played in Detroit for a lot of years, played indoors, played indoors in Detroit. And you look at what happened last year in that playoff game. I'm it's Philly, right? They were up the no. Yeah. Yeah. So I, you know, this is not a good situation. Late mid to late January in Chicago is horrific and can be really, really bad in Philadelphia as well. It's really bad here today. At the windshield is about 10 at the moment. And if you're the Los Angeles Rams and you had to play here, and it's going to be worse in Philadelphia or Chicago. So I don't like their chances on the other side of that. And I'm not going to go on and on about this. But Kirk Cousins is now four and two as a starter this year since Michael Pennings went out. The Atlanta Falcons, who are owned by a guy, honestly, in a football sense, is foolish. Arthur Blank is foolish. He gives Kirk Cousins, I don't know, 180 million dollars, guaranteed, whatever it is, and then allows the GM to draft a quarterback in the first round. You got to fire the GM. He's got to be fired today. Because it's it. This is ridiculous. This is the Kirk Cousins you hired. He's four and two as a starter, and he finds beyond Robinson all the time. This is what you wanted. And you allowed that to be undercut, completely unsabotaged. By this general manager picking Michael Pennings, who isn't bad, but also isn't available and soured Kirk Cousins because he had just signed a big deal and then you draft on a guy in the first round for his position. You know, the Falcons don't ever do anything right. They just don't, including lose the Super Bowl when they had an 80 point lead in the fourth quarter. And you look at a division that has a good consistency with a losing record again. Yeah. And so this complicates that. So there are three games that we thought three games were meaningful, head to head games on Saturday and Sunday. One of them was the San Francisco 49ers hosting Seattle. The winner will get the number one seed in the NFC when the division get the number one seed. Baltimore against Pittsburgh, the winner is going to the playoffs. And the big drama there is whether or not Lamar Jackson plays it, doesn't play. And then, you know, there is a subsidiary question, which is are they better off if he doesn't play? Have they looked better without him? And the other one was going to be the head to head between Tampa Bay at Tampa Bay and Carolina. The winner was going in, but not necessarily now. If Atlanta wins again in their last game, I think they can beat out Tampa Bay. I think Carolina automatically goes, but it gets it's complicated now. It's complicated because again, Kirk Cousins is four and two. And I had no thought he was going to beat the Rams. No, why would you? None. So. And so all of that is is interesting in the football sense. And we bring it up because we're not going to have, you know, a traditional football guest today. I wanted to read one other thing here. Tampa won the tie break over Atlanta based on best one percentage in common games. You get down to a second or third category. So they win. Although I'm seeing here on the standings on ESPN says Atlanta eliminated. How can they be eliminated? I don't know. I wouldn't know. They're not eliminated. OK, I'm just showing they are eliminated. That's what this is. I mean, even with winning. You see the idol. What can I say? This is from Glenn Winters. I'm a couple of years younger than you. I'm a card carrying septuagenarian bad knees, bad back, just like me, and assorted other signs of age. On one level, I completely understand your discomfort in having to pay the IRS electronically. This is I can't tell you how much this bothers me. It rages me because they change the rules in the middle of the game. If you are in a position where you have to pay estimated taxes, you get four different bills a year. And the last one is in January. The previous one is in November and then, yeah, whatever it is, there's four of them. One of the first. And I've been April and July, April and August, some April and September, something like that. And I've been doing this for years. You know, you pay it you pay it forward like that. And how can you if you have four of these things and they send you four different vouchers and they expect you to send a check, how can you change the rules in the middle of the game and say, no, no, you have to pay everything electronically. And so I stand up and I say, I don't know how to do that. I say, well, OK, well, get your accountant to do it. OK, I have an accountant. Everyone doesn't have an accountant. Everyone knows how to put a check in the mail and put a stamp on it, but they don't know how to do it electronically. And we need doing anyway. There's another level in which I take issue, Glenn Winter's rights. Let me explain in the past. You've been generous enough to play some of my original music on your high quality podcast. He's done that. He did the fugues. Yes, the most brilliant thing would ever have genius. That's fabulous. Um, in the late nineties, I mastered composing on computer using a music publishing program called finale. F I N A L E. It's either final or finale. I'll say finale. I learned to enter every note, every rhythm, every mark of ink you see on a page of sheet music, all with keystrokes on the computer. About a year ago, finale quietly went out of business. Their technology was out of date, like a rotary phone being replaced by a cell phone. A new product called Dorico, which sounds like a corn chip, he writes, has replaced finale with up to date technology. I bought Dorico. It's on my laptop. I haven't learned to use it. I'm not sure I will. It was imperative to learn finale because I was an active composer, writing music that would be performed, was painfully difficult to learn. I was frequently frustrated. I often consulted music colleagues for guidance on how to produce certain nuanced effects, but I got it. I climbed Mount Finale and wrote over a dozen operas, but I'm retired now. No one is asking me to write music. Writing music no one wants is like learning to be a good gourmet chef to make dinner for yourself, or you could get to Valor. You could spend, I don't know, six million dollars on, you know, on a little stove. That's where they make their money. That's where my sympathy for you wanes. Paying taxes is an optional. We all have to do it. You are educated, intelligent and accomplished. My theory is that you don't want to pay the price for learning a new skill. And I don't blame you when faced with finale after a lifetime of writing music with paper and pencil. I do said I don't know how. P.S. I suspect this might also explain you notorious inability to play the piano. As a guy who taught adult beginning piano students for years, I have a theory. Is it possible that you immediately wanted to play Billy Joel's piano man or Jerry Lee Lewis's Great Balls of Fire? It doesn't work like that. Adult beginners have to begin with masterpieces with names like March of the Middle Seas or my puppy. It's all about willingness to pay the price. You're going to learn your patience. I have no patience. Learn a new skill in 2026. Then you'll know how happy new year. Glenn Winters, Chuck and Roxy number two, 37. So. I suspect that with tutoring, I could learn how to do this. I suspect, but I don't want to do it. I don't want to do it and I don't think I should have to do it. And I don't think anybody should have to do it now by April 15th of this year. If the government wants to change it, change it with giving people enough advanced notice that they start an entire new year doing this. And also, you know, the assumption and I will stop after this, the assumption that everyone has access to computers and cell phones is an erroneous assumption. Some people don't because they can't afford them. And some people don't because they choose not to. And this is an important concept that when you just say, OK, just file it electronically, you file electronically because everybody knows how to do that. Well, they don't. They don't. Everybody doesn't. If you're the United States government or if you were the local jurisdiction, in my case, the District of Columbia and you actually, the goal is to get the money to defer the taxes later. If the goal is to get the money, why would you consciously cut out, I don't know, 25 percent of the people out there who are not going to send you the money? Then you're going to have to go after them and you're going to have to go after them and make their lives miserable when, in fact, their lives shouldn't be miserable because they're probably, in my case, perfectly willing to pay it by check, perfectly willing to do it. And just because it's more convenient for you doesn't make it the right way to go. There's got to be an ability for some people, old people, to do it the way they've always done it. I mean, I can show you on my records that I've never been late. I've never been late. So why would you say, well, you can't do it this way again? I'm not late with it. You're getting it. You get it. I just am I crazy? Michael, you're young. Am I crazy on this one? No, I'm not. I'm now with you. I was I was pushing back early, but I'm with you now. So it feels like if we had a hard reset and with this final payment, there was a notice that said, just so you know, next year with payment. That's fine. Yeah. That's fine. You'd be okay with this. Yes. It gives you advanced notice. And then you go to someone and you say, now, how do I do this? Because little stores, the H&R blocks of the world will pop up and they'll say, here's how you do that. OK. But but give let there be a notice. Has there been any notice? No. No. Who knows? Accountants know that they know. The average person doesn't know this. No. Average person has no idea that this is going on. So it's an assumption made by the government that's an erroneous to me, erroneous. Sean, what do you think? Yeah, I'm just waiting for the little hay. We'll send in. We'll give us your check shops that take the payment and charge you like 2%. Not what's going to happen. There's going to be a lot of ads for those. You know, don't I? Yeah, I don't want that. Plus, I don't want more and more people to know everything about me. Eventually, it'll be like Apple. They'll just reach into your account and just do it. They'll just do it. Yeah. It's automatically update. Can I can I change it? Change your mood and one quick second. Sure. There's one other significant birthday today in terms of great athletes. Who? The greatest living baseball player. Sandy Coltex. Sandy today. Is he 90? Yes, 90. 1935. Yeah. Sandy Coltex. What a day. Yes. What a day. I'll compile some other name. Del Shannon also would have been. I mean, it's a really good. Jim Marshall would have been celebrating a birthday. To go away. Coltex LeBron and Tyker. You know, they're in a category by the time. I didn't know Sandy Coltex's birthday. Yes. OK, that's good. And for those of you who are interested in my attempt to frame some matchbooks over the over the course of time, I have an appointment today at 10 o'clock in the morning at Frambridge. Are we giving out the location? No, I'm not going to do that. There's a number of frame digits. I'm going to one. I'll hold release of the episode till 10. Thanks. Oh, this could be a full hour appointment. All right. OK, so Chuck Todd. Chuck Todd, when we return, I'm Tony Cornhizer. You're listening to the Tony Cornhizer show. What is this, like a Western? It feels like it's like a spaghetti Western. Sergio Leone. That's what it feels like. Wow, where's Clint Eastwood when you need him? Should be popping up any time. I mean, honestly, it really does. This is Eric Toulon and the Slappy Boys. I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, Eric Toulon and the Slappy Boys were just not what we're used to from Eric Toulon and the Slappy Boys. It's still great. It's just different. It's really different. It feels like something recorded in a bull ring in Tijuana. Right? There's the banjo. Eric Toulon and the Slappy Boys. We're going to hear from them twice today. This is called the Devil's Orphan. We like Eric Toulon and the Slappy Boys. Yes, very much. I will admit I was floored by that intro. I was floored by that. It plays in Chuck Todd and this week's picks with Chuck Todd and Reggie Lemunkey are brought to you by Fandil Sportsbook. Make every moment more. Chuck had a pretty good week because he closed well. The Chicago Bears were getting three at San Francisco. San Francisco won by four in one of the really good games of the year. Chuck finished four and three. Now 63 and 60. Mount 500 in the distance. In the distance behind you. You've been doing well lately. I'm happy for that. There are three games in the NFL of import that have playoff ramifications. We will certainly do them. We'll do the college games, the four college games, and we'll give you the option on any of the other pro games. I love it. I appreciate that. Is it the Slappy Boys or the Slappy Boys? Slappy Boys. I think at one point they were the Slappy Boys and somebody said no. Be sloppy. Come on now. They definitely were the band for Carvel and Madeline's wedding. Probably. We'll now say they were. That's completely true. Completely true. Okay, let's start with the Saturday game, Carolina at Tampa Bay to see which team gets a home playoff game which they will lose from the NFC South, a terrible division. But I will say that I'm surprised that Carolina is plus two and a half on the road. You're going to say I know it's a home field is usually three. Tampa Bay hasn't won in three months. They don't win. They started out great for a while. Baker Mayfield was my MVP. They really, there's something like one and seven in their last eight. So I guess I don't understand the line, but who do you like in this? Our buddy Simmons thinks that everybody's quit on Todd Bowles. You think that I don't know why they would quit on Todd Bowles. Well, he was he got he had that angry moment about three weeks ago where he, you know, dismissed his team. He did dismiss his team. But yeah, I don't know. Is he done if they lose this? I don't think so. I mean, he's you know, he's won the division a number of times. I don't think they fire him. I don't know unless unless a bunch of guys on that team say, let's get rid of them, which sometimes happens. They pull what we like to call a Yanis on the tucumpo and they say, get rid of this guy today. Yeah. So and are you are you bought into Bryce young? Not completely. I mean, I think he's better, certainly better than he was for the previous two years. So little. Yeah, he's seen him out there. You're like, oh my God, I mean, Mayfield is small and he's considerably bigger and thicker than Bryce young. Yeah. Yeah. I got I Carolina. I mean, I don't know how you back Tampa here. No, that's what I'm playing. Yeah. I don't know how Carolina feels feels for whatever reason, the fresher team who who wins the lot. One of the NFC West teams wins the lottery on this one, right? Yeah. Either the what is it the Rams or the or the loser of the Niners Seahawks. I mean, that's a pretty good cup. Would you rather what's better a buy or playing the winner of this game in your first round matchup? This is better. The five seed. I think so too. This is better. This is a win on the road. It's a win. The the whoever gets to play the winner of this is an interesting spot to get to the NFC title game. Yeah. Give me the Panthers. Okay. The next one is Seattle at San Francisco. San Francisco has scored over 40 points the last two games. They have no defense. I understand that, but they've scored 40 points the last two games. I am surprised that Seattle is a one and a half point favorite at San Francisco. I'm surprised by this. Are you especially after the game? We just saw me look, I was sweating that that drive at the end. Yes. Yes. I mean, yes. If they have one more time out, they call a timeout and have a better play. Yes. Right. I mean, I'm surprised, you know, I either Josh Allen scored from there. I feel like with a timeout Caleb would have to write. Maybe that had a bite. If you believe defense matters more in playoff games than I understand why Seattle's right. Seattle right. Better defense. Yes, they do. You know, San Francisco has no defense, but the motivation, if you're San Francisco, did Turico say this, you don't even ever have to unpack a bag. That's right. You're going to roll your home. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you know, other than the commute to Santa Clara from San Francisco, which is not exactly the best commute. Give me, give me the Niners. I feel like they're suddenly, they have that great record where under Shanahan where if he makes a playoff, he's in the NFC title game or he doesn't make the playoff. That is only, there's only been one result for him when he makes the playoff. He's made the playoffs. They're in the playoffs. And every time they're in the playoffs, they're in the NFC title game when Shanahan's their coach. So we'll find out this year. I'm riding the Niners. Here's another one we're going to give you. This is the Sunday night game, I believe Baltimore Pittsburgh. I am surprised by this. Pittsburgh stunk against Cleveland. Yes. I understand that. They were lousy. Baltimore minus three and a half on the road. Yes, they have Derek Henry. He's a great running back. Maybe they have Lamar. Maybe they don't. They've won a couple of games, but I'm surprised they're a three and a half point favorite on the road. Are you? It's a little high, but boy, Pittsburgh offense just looks at me. It's awful. Let me ask you this question. And they don't have DK Metcalf again. They don't. That's right. Two games. When the Steelers and Ravens meet next year, will Harbaugh and Tomlin both be the coaches? That's interesting. The quarterbacks may not be the quarterbacks either. They both be the coaches. I think there's, yes, I'm going to say yes, they will. What do you say? I'll get to know. I don't know which one goes. Uh-huh. Right? But I would take the other side of that, that I'm going to bet that one of these two just goes somewhere else. Right? It feels like in both cases, they're kind of past their sell-by dates with the organization. Right? And it's not like it needs to, you know, everybody's tired of seeing the same shirts in the wardrobe. I don't know. Don't you get that feeling with both these franchises? Well, but in Tomlin's case, he's going to have a winning season again, a non-losing season again because they're nine and seven. I think there's a better chance that Harbaugh goes, but I don't know where. I would have actually thought Harbaugh could have gone to Michigan and said, I'm the sane brother. I'll take the job. So, I don't know, man. I think Harbaugh. Both will get hired. Both will get hired. Yeah, but I do think the Harbaugh tenure in Michigan is stinkier and stinkier. Yeah, but this is the other one. Yeah. Okay. Give me the Ravens, man. I will not touch that Pittsburgh team. Okay. All right. Here are some other games if you want them. Green Bay is plus six and a half at Minnesota. You lost on Green Bay Baltimore the other day. Green Bay plus six and a half, I guess Jordan Love's not playing, I guess. They're locked into the seven. Look at their injuries. They lost two more guys in the Baltimore game to season ending injuries. They're going to put out the entire practice squad. They're going to be petrified. So that's why that line is what it is. The only thing that they want that game for is Malik Willis' free agency tryout. He's going to be the hottest. He's going to be the Sam Darnold of this, I think, free agent. I think he'd make a great dolphin. In a run first offense, he could be a Jalen Hertz-like quarterback for the dolphins under that McDaniel scheme. Anyway, that's the only reason I could see the Packers covering, but I don't want to touch the game. You don't want to touch the game. That's fair. That's fair. Los Angeles Chargers are at Denver. They're getting 11 and a half points in a division game. That theoretically has things on the line. If Denver loses and New England wins, yes. Denver has something on the line. Denver does. The Chargers have nothing. They don't have anything to play for, right? No. I'm not doing this to just do a 6-7 thing, but I don't know whether it matters much if they're the 6 or the 7. Right. OK. You don't want to touch it. I'm passing. It sounds like hardball. Somebody knows something there. OK. They know that hardball is not playing anybody. OK. All right. Miami is at New England. New England the most surprising team in all of football to me. Miami is getting 11 and a half a division game. OK. It's at New England. Maybe it'll be colder than Miami is used to. Used to. No matter how. But 11 and a half is a tremendous amount of points. Was Quinn Ewers any good? They won a game, didn't they? Didn't they win Miami? They did. And they want to run first. I kind of think they're playing for something. I think Ewers is playing for something. I think McDaniel is playing for something. Not to play us, but I think they're playing for relevancy. So that's the one that I'd be willing to entertain. Because I guess the Patriots are playing for a... Do they have to lose to lose the one seed or is it just... I thought Denver was the one. Denver needs to lose and the Patriots need to win. Is it the same time? I hope they see that. Yeah. They're one-a-clock game. Are they going to play at the same time? They're both 425 stars. Yeah. As long as they're both... Yeah, you got to do that. Yeah. So they're putting that in all. Boy, that means that game's even colder for the Dolphins. Yes. Because the sun's already down. Look, it's the only game I would entertain on the list of non-entities is the Dolphins covering that huge number. I'm giving you the chance to say yeah or nay. I'm going to take it. I'm going to bet my hunch here. Okay, Miami. And say that the Dolphins are in a comfortable position. It'll probably be 14 when we get to... I know. Let's go to college. This is what we've been waiting for, where we got rid of James Madison in Tulane. And we'll start with the Miami game. This is a school you followed your whole life. Miami is playing against Ohio State. It's at a bowl. All these games are neutral-side games. That Miami A&M game was one of the worst games. It was torture to sit through until the last three minutes. Just awful. Awful. Yeah, try being in attendance. But yes. Just awful. Yeah, awful. Miami is getting nine and a half. That's a lot. Who you got? I know I have... I wear orange and green glasses. I am absolutely biased. I do not understand that spread. Too hot. There is no good explanation for me. Whatever you think of crystal ball, I know Miami has this reputation that they don't know how to win a big game and they'll choke when it matters. All this stuff, right? I just... Nine and a half. This is not going to be a two-score game. I don't think Ohio State is that much better than Miami. In fact, earlier this year there was a point where there was a serious debate. Is Miami the best team in the country until they blew that game against Louisville? So I think they physically are the same. So nine and a half, way too much. I think that's a gift. I really do. Again, I know I'm a biased actor in this, but I can't believe that number has stuck at nine and a half. Oregon, which one? It's the third team from the Big Ten and the only... It should be the Pac-10. Only team that played last week from the Big Ten. Oregon is at Texas Tech. They are the one team that you would consider to be the underdog, but they are the favorites. They did not get the buy. They are the favorites. Texas Tech, I'm sure there's a lot of people wondering about Texas Tech. In the same way that they wonder about Indiana, they wonder, Texas Tech, who did they beat? Do they beat the UIU? So what? It's a bad conference for football. What will you do in this one? So I think this is the... If you look at Oregon, the two times they faced a physical team were Iowa and Indiana, and they lost to Indiana, and they almost lost to Iowa. I think Texas Tech is a... They're built like an SEC team. They went and bought those defensive lines. I think this is going to be a slug fest. I think they're tougher than Oregon. I think Texas Tech is going to win, but I don't even have to win. They don't have to win for me to win. So give me the points. Okay. Alabama is at Indiana. Well, not at Indiana. It's at the Rose Bowl. It's Alabama, Indiana. For the last 50 years, you would have laughed and said, stop. Leave me alone. It's Alabama. 50 years. But Indiana, in the last two years, has beaten teams. They really have. They got the Heisman Trophy winner. They beat Ohio State. They're the only undefeated team in the country. How many more times are we going to have to say you have to prove it to us? Although I think you have to prove it in this one. You have to prove it. Because Alabama's Alabama, I'm sorry, Alabama. Alabama getting seven. It's a lot. So I think we all sleep on Kailan DeBoer. Look, I don't... I both don't envy the guy. And I also, hey, we all want to have the good problems that he has. We'd all like to succeed Nick Saban. That'd be awesome. It means you've got the Alabama job. So it's not easy. But this dude in playoffs, he was in the FCS. Look what he did at Washington. He strikes me as a good game planner for the team you're playing at the moment. I don't know if he's going to be a great program builder. I don't know if he's going to be the... Nick Saban was also a good politician. And I mean that as a compliment, not as some sort of knock, meaning you know this, Tony. You've got to be a major... To be the coach Alabama, Michigan, Texas, you've got to be a good politician as well as a good coach. Yes. Right? Because of all the donors and all the boosters. Yes. Oh, my crap. So I think that's a problem for him. But I don't question the man's abilities inside the sidelines, right? Inside on that football field. I like all those points. Take Alabama. Wouldn't you take Alabama in points? How often do you get Alabama in points? I would take Alabama in points, but it would reflect my prejudice that Indiana can't be this good. Can't be. What happens if the Big Ten loses all three of their teams in these quarters? Then they can shut up when the SEC says we want more teams than you. But they also could win all three. They got three in. I know. They got three in. They've got a lot. I'm obsessed with potential narratives that we could have out of these games. And that's one potential narrative, right? If both Indiana and Ohio State lose. Yes. And they've been one, two all week. And all of a sudden, what it really is, Tony, is that it's a reminder that can you win in the North in college football? Do you have to be in the Sun Belt to succeed in college football? Well, Michigan won a couple of years ago. I'm just saying, Michigan, Ohio State and Indiana have been exceptions to what has been. That's right. Pretty tried into rule, right? And this is one of my favorite maps of all the best high school players in 1980 all came from Ohio and Pennsylvania. 20 years later, they were all in Florida and Georgia. Yeah. Yeah, it's understandable. That's understandable. All right, we got one more game. And this is intersectional, you know, inter-conference. This is Ole Miss at Georgia. The people at Ole Miss cannot. They're okay now. They won one game. They got Lane Kiffin left and they still won a game. They played Georgia earlier in the year. They're getting six and a half. Is this in Atlanta? Is this where the... No. Where's this one? New Orleans, right? New Orleans. This is our sugar bowl. We're getting a sugar bowl, a cotton bowl, an orange bowl and a rose bowl. Fine. Yes. Here. Yeah. I think this is the sugar bowl. So the orange bowl is which one? Is Oregon, Texas Tech? That's Oregon, Texas Tech. Yeah. It's not the cotton? No. Okay. I know. Ole Miss plus six and a half against Georgia. I hasten to point this out. The drama of Lane Kiffin has overwhelmed everything else. Ole Miss lost one game. Right? They lost one game. That's it. To the team we're talking about. Okay. And then you sometimes, you get them back. Sometimes you get them back like Georgia did with Alabama. Sometimes you do. Let me paint another scenario. You know what happens the day after this game? No. The portal opens. Oh boy. Oh boy. And half of Ole Miss is going to LSU. Yeah, they're going. Yes. Right. So I'm buying into the idea that, you know, including the quarterback by the way, I'm buying into the idea that these guys are all dealing with agents who are telling them what the LSU offer looks like, what's on the table. I think, as you said, they won the game that mattered. Yes. And they did that. And Georgia, just that this game gets, that Georgia is like a python. You know, it's a close game at halftime and then you look up and you're like, oh, Georgia won 31 to 14. So you will take Georgia. You will take Georgia. All right. There's a lot of games. It's eight. No fun. It's, you know, good for you. You've done very well lately. Very well lately. Do you want to do any NHL games? Yeah. You lost. You know what you lost on? You lost on Buffalo. We all would have lost on Buffalo. Yeah. He had, um, I lost with real money, Tony, on that too. Yeah. He had the guy open. Yeah. The guy was open. He doesn't miss that. I allowed myself to get suckered into live betting. When that thing was 13, I was like, Buffalo's winning this game. There's no way they're losing this game. They're going to win this game. So I put more money on just them to win. I didn't even have a spread covering anymore. When you had, when you saw the, the extra point blocked, you had to want to kill yourself. I mean, that's just so awful. Do you, do you blame them for going for two? No, you've gone for two. No, I don't blame them at all for going for two. The weather's crappy. Yeah. You've got a hurt quarterback. You want to get off the field. Just win and go home. Sure. But I should have won. Now they wouldn't have covered because it was one and a half, but they should have won. There was a small part of me that was hoping they'd kick for the tie and go to overtime and cover the spread. And the only people thinking about that are those holding minus three. That's right. Yeah. All right, we'll talk to you next week. Good luck. Chuck Todd boys and girls, if we gave you just Chuck Todd, it would be more than enough, but we give you a monkey. See the monkey, he's scratch scratch scratchin', Watchin' his iPad, smokin' and laughin', Hangin' with Bud Grant, tap tap tapin' on his purple attestion. People can sing along. Zoo, zoo, zoo, Reginald's got the body, five, two. 19 girls, poo poo poo, and he's had too much Johnny walkin' blue. All right, so what happened? He had a pretty good week. He was two and one. He's now 19 and 32. He's not going to make it, but you finish strong. You get a temper, finish strong. He's got four more weeks of bets. It's not his start the race. It's how you finish it. Yeah, so there you go. Although sometimes if you start and you're 31 lengths behind secretary, it's really not how you finish it. That's a very good point. It's just after you finish. And I would like to remind people, if you have not seen that lately, just go look it up on YouTube. It's the most astonishing thing you'll ever see. So I went down to the National Zoo. It was a very busy scene down there. Reginald, of course, was setting up for his big New Year's Eve bash. It's a great time. Very interesting. Some of the guests like to show up a few days early to help set up. So I saw John Hamm and Dame Judy Dent stringing lights. Tremendous. Yeah, very happy to be there. Hinsley Bam Bam Moulins stalking the bar. So yeah. That's a name I wouldn't have thought of. I don't know if he's working it or if he's a guest. We're going to think he's a guest, right? Now they wanted to make sure you were still OK with doing the Q&A with the audience just for two or three hours. I think I'm going to miss that. OK. Well, I'll pass only the condolences. Now the, or your regrets rather. Now the first match we gave him was, did you give this game to? I didn't give him a chance. The Washington game, I didn't mention it. I didn't even mention it. Didn't want to put him in that position. Washington getting eight and a half at Philadelphia. Yeah. Eight and a half. Reginald pulled out as well. This is a very old photograph. He showed me of him in a bobsled run with Joe Jacoby, Clint Didier, and the late great Joe Bugle. So I wouldn't do this. No. I would not take the eight and a half. I would not. I think he's thinking that Philly can't move like they've got nothing to play for. That's right. So maybe Washington, that's good. OK. Yeah. Well, anyways, looking for a cover. Looking for a cover. Now the next match we gave him was Seattle giving a point and a half at San Francisco. And this was a lovely picture he showed me of him on a cruise down the Nile alongside Xavier McDaniel, Ken Griffey Jr. and Steve Lodgen. Apparently Jim Zor. Seattle. Jim's always supposed to be on the boat. Yeah. But he got the wrong clothing. Had the wrong colors. Yeah. So he didn't make it. But that tells me he'll take Seattle and give the one and a half. The next match we gave him was New England at home giving 11 and a half to Miami. So you're a silly monkey. You really shouldn't be taking game for this biggest spread. He just had nonsense. And he showed me a very, very old photograph from the newspaper of him plowing the streets of Xavier alongside Rico Petrucelli, Phyllis Bezzito and someone who I believe was Whitey Bulger. So that tells me. The late. The late. The late. Not the late great. No, just the late. The late. I know it's a lot of points. I know Chuck is intrigued and he's rooted for Miami his whole life. Yeah. And he wants 11 and a half. I don't know. Because the Patriots playing at the same time. They've got something to play for something to play for. And it's whatever the weather is, it's going to be not hospitable for Miami people. And he took one more game. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I was leaving. I said, no, I got one more match. Yes. Ohio State giving nine and a half first to the University of Miami. He showed me a little video of this must be at least a decade old of him wing walking on a biplane. You know that wing walking? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. With Jim Tressel. So tells me he's got ties to the buck. He's now the Lieutenant Governor of the state, isn't he? Maybe Indiana. Oh, it's not Ohio. I'm not sure if it's Ohio, but yeah, because he was blackballed essentially from. Yes. Yeah, it was show cause for like. Never would happen now because there are no rules. No rules. Yeah. There's just absolutely no rules. Yeah. All right, this is great. This week's picks with Chuck Todd and Reginald LeMonkey have been brought to you by Fandle Sportsbook. Make every moment more. We will come back with Bob Ryan, the quintessential American sports writer, and I'm Tony Kornhiser. You're listening to the Tony Kornhiser show. The Tony Kornhiser show. Here's the familiar banjo string of Eric DeLong and the Slappy Boys. Yeah. No good, bad, and the ugly. Yeah. Yeah. The first song that we played was from a spaghetti Western. All right, we love Eric DeLong and the Slappy Boys. This is called Danielle. It plays in the quintessential American sports writer Bob Ryan. But Michael, before we get to Bob, if people like Eric DeLong and the Slappy Boys want their original music played on this show, how do they go about it? Send us your music by email. Get to Jingles at TonyKornhiserShow.com. All right, Bob Ryan joins us. And there's a number of localized Boston and New England stories to talk about. And the overwhelming one to me is the Patriots turnaround. I mean, I understand that you're a basketball and baseball guy first and even hockey probably over football to a degree. But you've lived in Boston for an awfully long time. They went four and 13, and then four and 13, two years in a row with two different coaches. They bring in an alum, they bring in Mike Rabel, and they're like 97 and two. I mean, have you ever seen a turnaround like this? Not locally at all. No. Although this league, as you know, is notorious for big one-season turnarounds. They keep track every year of how many teams made the playoffs that didn't make the playoffs last year. It's multiple. But in our case, the doom and gloom after Belichick last year was horrible. The Drodd male was totally in over his head. He was not qualified to coach this team. And they pulled the plug on him. And getting Rabel was just a dream. He has transformed the attitude there. And that's number one. But number two, you've got to have a quarterback. And let's give them credit for drafting. Elliott Wolfe, one name that is not getting enough credit for this turnaround is Elliott Wolfe. He's not general manager of his director player personnel. But it's the drafting of Drake May. And then last year, there were a lot of important new players who were part of this team that had roles in all this. So he gets credit too. But everybody gets a little credit here. The big narrative before the season, Tony, was, oh, look at that easy schedule. And guess what? They took full advantage of it. No apologies necessary. You don't make out the schedule. That's the way you do it. You stink. And they reward you with a cushy schedule. And they took a total advantage of it. And you have to give them credit for that. So I would give Rabel a lot of credit. And I would probably vote for Rabel for coach of the year over Liam Cohn and Jacksonville and over Ben Johnson in Chicago, both of whom are deserving as well. But I had written down, is the general manager the same? Is the guy sitting in the general manager spot, has he been there longer than Rabel? Because if he has, he's got to get a lot of credit, as you're saying, for bringing players in. It's not just coaching. You have to have talent, right? No, right. And that is the case. He drafted May. Rabel was elsewhere. Yeah. You always have choices. I mean, we've gone through this historically about that when they drafted Blitzow, there was another possibility. So it's such a given. Drake May is a legitimate MVP candidate. Here we are. And there's others. And if he doesn't win, they'll be weeping around here. But the fact is that he's having a tremendous year. You mentioned Belichick earlier. How many people in New England? What do they think of Belichick now with the North Carolina thing and being in the news all the time with the young woman that he's... What do they think of Belichick? Well, to borrow a phrase that predates all of us, no fool like an old fool. I think that's the general... I think... No, seriously. That's the general attitude. People... Our society rounds on those... Let's see, this May, December, what is this? November and February, what is this? Whatever it is. Those kind of relationships are not well thought of in our society. Let's be honest. People think, what's the matter with him? What does she get? What does she... And then from the other side, they look at it and they start thinking, oh, well, she's casting in or whatever. I mean, all these thoughts are... People are not... Oh, isn't that cute? People are not saying, isn't that cute? They're saying it's ridiculous. That's what they're saying. That's what I would think. And here's a guy, he's the greatest pro football coach of all time and that just seems foolish. It leads me to this question. It's just sort of an open-ended question. We always... I don't know who started this. I don't know who started statues in front of gyms. I don't, but it's a bad... To me, it's a very bad idea, these statues. Where are you on statues of coaches and players and only... Where are you on statues? I'm kind of neutral. We have our share down at the Boston Garden. You've got Bobby Ors going through the air. You've got Bird. So we're not immune from this. And LA, you go, they got your statues. I rapturized about the Stan Musil statue in St. Louis over time, if only for the inscription. But I'm okay. At least I'm the worst I'm in the Bible and I'm not anti. I think I've run into anti because I have this fear that at some point in front of Madison Square Garden, there'll be a statue to Carmelo Anthony. I go, what? What? What do you... You know, I mean, that it's gonna seep down to a level where you go, really, this guy? Really? Well, you need proper judgment. I mean... Isn't there one in LA of Oscar de la Jolla? You know, and I just thought, yeah, is that worthy? I don't know. And then sometimes there's an owner. I don't know that I would put a statue to an owner. Would you? No, no, no. Obviously you gotta have a degree of common sense here. But you know, certain people do mean a lot. Like I referenced the Stan Musil one specifically. Yeah, sure. Because there were no... There was no, yeah, but the one thing you might have to worry about is if somebody goes about it and dismerges their image. But now, of course, you can take care of that by making sure that they're deceased. But anyway, I do reference the Stan Musil one because he was baseball's perfect knight as the description says. And he was properly revered in St. Louis, believe me. And that's okay. I mean, I'm better with the thing the Yankees do. Not statues, but little, you know, headstones and stuff. I'm better with that. I'm better with that. Oscar De La Hoya is... Yeah, he's got one out in front of the four. All right, I didn't know that. I didn't know that. Okay. He's a great fighter, but you know, I don't know. Oscar De La Hoya, stop. By the way, Celtics are better than I thought they would be, aren't they? They're better. Yes, they are. How do you explain that? My thought before the season, I say here's the parameter of wins and losses for them. A low of 37 and a high of 45. At 37, things aren't going all that well. 45, things are going very well. They're on their way to that 45 and plus. Yeah, they are playing a little bit better than people thought for sure. One reason, Jaylen Brown is having a spectacular year. He's having one of the best years of individually of any team in the NBA this year. He's answered questions about whether in the absence of Jason Tatum, he can step up and be a number one. He can be a leader. He can be a go-to guy. He can be the guy that would withstand the double teams. He can be the guy that can deliver the goods in the fourth quarter. He can do all that. He's done it all so far. He's on a roll now at the end of the game tonight. Nine straight games, 30 points or more. Only one sub has ever done that. That's Larry Bird. He's done all the things that he would want a leader to do. And so we give him credit. He's certainly, you know, you give him credit. But beyond that, Peyton Pitchard took a little bit of a while to relate to adjust to the role of not being an undersized shooting guard only, but being a playmaker and a shooting guard. And after a little bit of a rocky start shooting, he settled into that role very, very well. He's doing both jobs. And that's very important. But they are a problem. They got people on edge here because Joe Bezal is a high priest of the three pointer. And when they're going in, they look great. When they aren't going in, they're embarrassingly bad. And he's not going to change that thing. So that's the, you know, they don't have a real viable plan B, offensively. Defensively, they're not bad. They're better than we thought they're going to be. Now one other, one ingredient they have that's helped them lately. Two young men have been, their energy has fueled them. One is Jordan Walsh, who's a third year guy, and six, five, six, and a very, very aggressive. And the other is a very interesting story. I'm very excited about this kid. Ugo, it's spelled H-U-G-O, but you pronounce it Ugo. He's a Spaniard. He's just, he's 20 years old and 19, excuse me. And he's six, seven, and he plays hard. He is rough people. He is absolutely a force. So they're very happy to have these two kids. They really, they're a factory leader. One of the great changes in basketball over the years that Bob Ryan and I have watched basketball in the NBA is the influence and often dominance of foreign-born players. When you talk about Jaylen Brown having a good year, the guy having the best year is Nikola Yokic. He's taping this at 8.15 in the morning and there was, you know, he's going to have an MRI on a knee. If this is bad, they're doomed, right? I mean, he's the best player in basketball, right? Yes. His numbers are irrefutable and remarkable. You know, it's come to this. And I always go down to, this is a tribute to the late Boris Stankovich because he dragged the USA kicking and screaming into the 1992 Olympics. And that's what happened. People don't understand that's how I took about. And that helped the globalization of basketball. But here's what was, it's come to, Tony. We are now having, you can have a legitimate debate, have it on your show. A debate that would have been unimaginable, well, 20 years ago, 10 years ago, and that is, okay, who's the best American player? Think about that. That's the real... Yeah, I don't know. You won't see. Think about that. We are on a run of MVPs of foreign-born players. Foreign-born, yeah. And we're going to have another one this year, all right? More than likely. And the point is, who's the best American player? That's an amazing concept. I don't think people talk about it enough. So, you know, I mean, right now, he's an SGA. I don't know. We can argue that. Well, he's Canadian. Oh, no, he's Canadian. He's Canadian. So, no. Something I love about OKC, they have an all-Canadian backcourt. It's the reigning champion. Because Lou Dort is Lou Dort people who have no idea. He's from Montréal. His name is Lou Grins. L-U-G-U-E-N-Z. His parents are Haitian immigrants to Canada. So, yeah, even there, the best teams, or if they are the best team this year, they got an all-Canadian backcourt. That's the... Two years from now, it could be Cooper Flag. Two years from now, but not now. It's not now. No, not yet. But you're right. He's on... That's the projection that should be Cooper Flag. By the way, we mentioned this at the beginning of the show, and get your immediate thoughts on it. Today, the same day, the following people have birthdays. No. Tiger Woods, Sandy Kofax, LeBron James. Can you imagine a better birthday day than this? Can you imagine that? Tony, I have been all over this for 15 to 20 years. Really? I spotted this in a... Oh, absolutely. I got to it today. I got to it today. And all over this for 15 or 20 years. I'm not a believer in astrology, but I like to hear from astrologists on this. Seriously. You guys, you should go get an astrologist and see if they will tell you about this. I'm very, very serious. I think it would be fun to find out what they would say. No, this is remarkable. I've been all over this for many, many years. Yes. December 30th is an incredible birthday. Yeah. I have one other name. He's slightly tarnished, but this is one of your great moments, Tony. Ben Johnson. Oh, yeah. Ben Johnson is the single greatest event I ever went to. Bobby, what's the single greatest event? I would say that Ben Johnson, Carl Lewis, given all that it meant and given what I was doing at the time for the Washington Post, that's the number one for me. What's not... Do you have a number one? That's very interesting. I think the most... No, this is the most... The event that it just shook its own little world because the team in question was so invincible at that moment. And the other team had modest credentials. That is Villanova over Georgetown. Okay. Villanova had lost 10 games. I had seen them lose to BC at home. They were beaten by 30 points in the Inche, in the Big East tournament, I believe, by Pitt. And then you get to that night in Lexington in 1985. That's very, very high at the top of my personal list. Now, you know, my two... I call foundation sports, the sports that I grew up with the most were Major League Baseball and college basketball. And so college basketball has always meant a lot to me. I was at that game too. Yeah, well everybody was at that game. Everybody was at that game. Yeah, Georgetown Villanova. Yeah. So speaking of which, the sort of reminiscences of one's career, what are you and Dan Shaughnessy doing? Are you... I'm told you have a YouTube show? A YouTube show? No, no. We were guests on a YouTube show with Bob Lowe Bell and Mike Lynch to Boston, you know, sports casting. You know, I hate that word legend, but you know, notables, luminaries. I like that word. Right. They're retired, but they do from their regular duties, but they do a podcast. And we were privileged to be on this podcast as they were talking about, you know, historical well, reminiscences and so forth. And of course, Boston is loaded. We are very blessed, not just in the 21st century, where we reigned supreme as you well know, most championships, the first team, the city to get all four, et cetera, et cetera. But historically, you know, we went every historical argument, you know, that baseball first major league was in the National Association in 1871. We were a charter member. The National League was founded in 1876. We were a charter member. The American League was founded in 2000, 1901. We were a charter member. The NHL was founded in the early 20s. We were there. And in 1946, when the NBA came in, the 4-1, the NBA, we were a charter member. You know, we blow the field away with history. So when people, are these people influencers? I'm trying to learn this term influencers. Because according to Wilbon, if you're an influencer, you make millions of dollars. And people come to you with products all the time and ask you to just put them on the set where you do your influencing. And I don't, it's so unbelievable to me. I can't believe it's true. Have you thought about becoming an influencer? No, I have not. I know they're out there. I know that I'm waiting. But you know, I'm not hiding anywhere if somebody wants to come to me. I'll tell you that. But you know, they can find me. But no, that's the whole world. There's many things going on that are way over my head. And that's certainly one of them. Yeah. I mean, whenever Wilbon tells me how much money is out there, I go, how can there be any money for this? How can there be any money? I don't understand people. I mean, you read things. I read an assassin reader and I read things all the time. And I'm saying, I just, I can't remote. I just don't relate. You know, you have to accept the fact that the world's going on and you're a certain agent. And you're not part of that. And I'm not. That is, that's the spine of this show. What I don't understand. And why are you doing this to me? I just got through with the stuff about taxes. I'm paying taxes electronically. I don't want to do that. I want to write you a check. Stop. So I'll give you another, you know, this very simple example of my wife and I, we refuse to do a self-checkout. I don't do it either. I don't do it. It's, you know, it's taken someone's job. No, no, no, I won't do it. And so, you know, that's, that's our little, you know, no, I wait, I waited at the supermarket with my five items behind somebody with enough food for six months. And I wait because I'm not doing self-checkout. I can tell you, the last couple of times, I've been in the last couple of weeks that I have been to supermarket on that, you know, Bob, would you go get one of those? Okay. I did. And now somebody has been nice enough to, to say, you only got that. You're stepping fine. They've got nice people. That's nice. What I do. But, you know, you know, a lot of people don't do that. No, they see me coming. They say, get to the end of the line. Get to the end of the line. All right. It's a pleasure to talk with you. Thank you, Bobbie. Thank you. Thanks for having me always, Tom. Bye-bye. Bob Ryan, boys and girls, the quintessential American sportswriter. We will come back with email and jingle. I'm Tony Kornhizer. Indeed presents. Highers, you can't afford to get wrong. Like a warehouse operations manager. Uh, where are the forklifts? I sold them. They were too expensive. I got a great deal on these scooters, though. You expect us to move a two-ton pallet on a scooter? It'll be fun. 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All right, before we get to the mailbag, let me just say I can't get through this. There are places I'll remember all my life, though some have changed, some forever, not for better. Some have gone and some remain. All these places have their moments with lovers and friends I still can recall. Some are dead and some are living. In my life, I've loved them all. I tried to get through this yesterday and I couldn't. Today is a little bit easier. Those are the Beatles. That's John's song. Everybody knows that. In my life, it's a wonderful song. Thanks to our guests today, Chuck Todd and Bob Ryan. Thanks as well to today's sponsors. Remember, you can listen to us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or to see if you can get through Apple Plesivus Reviews. So from Jordan Chance in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, formerly of Lyndon Hurst, New York. Hey, Tony. What you know well. I know Lyndon Hurst, New York. Harrisburg, I know where it is, too. I mean, I drive through Harrisburg on the way to Binghamton all the time on 81. Hey, Tony, her dimension of Peter Goldstein, Levittown Division Class of 79 on Monday's show. Wonder if he knew my aunt or uncle, Karen or Michael Gerlach, or less likely because she was a little bit older. My mother class is 73. Ellen Gerlach. I'll hang up and listen. Well, how? Hey, wait. You're not asking me if I know them. You're asking me if someone who was mentioned on this show who I don't know might know your aunt and uncle. Really? Really, Jordan? I'm going to describe it that way. Wow. From Jess Corte, I'm the nephew of the late great Tommy Nobis. I've communicated through several different ways with the NFL, trying to get attention to Tommy Nobis being inducted into the Hall of Fame. After several years of communicating that I believe his stats are worthy of being inducted into the Hall of Fame, I've never heard back from anyone. And I had parenthetically, this is a surprise to you. I'm going to start communicating with you, with me, Tony, in hopes that maybe you can help get Tommy Nobis inducted into the pro football Hall of Fame. If you would just look at his stats, you would clearly see he's definitely a Hall of Famer. Atlanta Falcons' first draft pick ever, Mr. Falcon, number one pick from 1961 for the University of Texas. His stats are just behind Dick Buck, just he never played for, he never played, just never played for in a championship situation. Please sir, just look at his statistics and his short career and see what you think about him being inducted into the Hall of Fame. I will contact you every year until I get my uncle into the Hall of Fame. It feels like a threat. Yeah. Don't. He's just handwritten. I remember Tommy Nobis. I remember him at Texas. I remember him with the Falcons. I was surprised. I automatically said he was in the Hall of Fame. When you said short career, maybe that has something to do with it. I don't know how long he played, but I thought he was a great, great player. But don't come back to me all the time. I have no influence with the NFL. There's nothing we can do. From Steve the Sick of Fan, various emails about the wonderfulness or awfulness if Kansas City, Missouri and Kansas City, Kansas took me back to the early and mid-70s when I resided in that area. One difference became very obvious on Saturday nights as the Missouri side closed up tight at midnight while on the Kansas side you could keep drinking until 2 a.m. Sundays the Missouri side shut down and continued while the Kansas side shopping centers did a booming business. Eventually the merchants in Missouri screamed loudly enough to get the law changed. Driving on State Line Road required some concentration. If you were driving south in Missouri, a right turn on red was legal. Driving north in Kansas, it was not. Plus, there was the intersection where four counties and two states came together trying to figure out who had jurisdiction after an accident could be really fun. Ah, the good old days. No more friend, Patrick Sitter, in Sioux Falls, South Dakota. The real reason Wilbond is rooting for Buffalo in the AFC is because he thinks Buffalo is in the Midwest, yes he does. He does. Neil Ayreves says, a doctor of letters, you're fully conversant. With the many oxymorons we use and accept without acknowledging the irony. Jumbo shrimp, deafening silence, guest host, open secret, unbiased opinion, business ethics. None of those is as rare as surprising as the one that has appeared on Two Straight Monday podcast. Happy Wilbond. Yes, happy Wilbond. Yes, very happy. It's shared. Batteries plus rain equals electrocution. It's 50-50. What's going to happen to me if I have that hand warmer. Alan Gerard, Norman, Oklahoma. Hearing Mr. Tony's description of the dry ice balls he dealt with at Columbia, wanted to write in and say that I'm pretty sure he is describing what meteorologists called graupel, G-R-A-U-P-E-L, or soft hail. Maybe it's graupel, graupel, graupel. It is different from sleet in that it has a coating of rime ice around the pellet, which is why it seemed drier than sleet. Yes, totally dry. Sleet forms when raindrops are partially melted, snowflakes re-freeze, does not have that rime coating. As a meteorologist who has to deal with all sorts of weird vocabulary, graupel is also my favorite meteorological term just because of how unique the word looks and sounds. It's German in origin and comes from their word for pearl barley, which graupel resembles. Yes, it looked exactly like barley. It's also sometimes called hominy hail because it resembles hominy, information for life. That's a really good email. Thank you to Alan Gerard and Norman Oklahoma. Carl Lobach in Nazareth, Pennsylvania, while I was the only one, was I the only one having a flashback to the battery operated toothbrush debacle, the new battery operated hand warmer will need to have the batteries removed and charged and returned to the hand warmer for them to function properly. Yes, I know how to do that. I just taught how to do that. So I just can't send my taxes in electronically. I can do this. Perhaps Michael can explain or ask the Google machine. No, I know how to do it. Carla Carato, who we love in Columbus, Ohio, demonstrating that you're a man of the people I was touched by your lament for the disenfranchised who with no accounting professional to electronically submit their tax returns will suffer fines because they cannot post through the mail. And your additional concern for AOL users without tech support as they transition to another email server reminded me how deeply you care about the underserved. However, those considerations were underscored as you juxtapose the empathy with a story about borrowing shop credit at your country club to purchase the game changing hand warming muffler recommended by Chris Lamont, the fine golfer who grew up in Columbia. A man of the people meets man who has an entire golf course of himself. Yes, Carla. Yes. Yes, guilty. Guilty is charged. Guilty is charged. John Goldblum who writes us occasionally, who's a doc. Although I hear you read many numerous invitations to weddings on the show. I'm sure you've never been to or attend one of these events regardless. It makes me feel better to invite you to my daughter, John of V's wedding to Zach Lumberzak, as he is known in our family. You know many of the invitees, some of whom have either been on your show or at least mentioned on occasion, including niece Morgan Pressel, cousin Aaron Crickstein and cousin Jeff Goldblum. Why is it cousin? Wow. Wow. That one we may want to go to. Yeah, we need you. We need you. Next is Indian and we have raised four combination of Hindus and Jews. Hindus. Hindus. That's what he writes. All of whom have had or will have both traditional and Indian ceremonies in the same weekend. Wow. So between the salmon and the curry, I truly believe you would enjoy yourself. Take the weekend to think about it. In the meantime, I'll place you next to Morgan and myself at the table, seatings. Isn't that nice? He's chairman of pathology at the Cleveland Clinic. That's really nice. From Beachwood, Ohio, which reminds of Beachwood 4-5-7-8-9. You can call me up and have a date anytime. Marvel, that's right. Yes. Brett Hobbs, Linton, Indiana. I wanted to let you know that your rant on Apple forcing an update and causing pain in your life was resonating through the digital world. I listened to another podcast called Daily Tech and the host of the show related their Christmas visits to families that involve family members begging them for help fixing their Apple phones after the update caused their digital life to be far from what they expected. So Tony, you're not alone in your misery. So rant on and maybe, but I doubt it. I'm not alone. We'll learn that people like their status quo and he wishes us all happiness and health in the new year. Yeah, good. Yeah. Because I didn't ask for this and I'm never getting it back. I don't, I need Michael to come home. All is forgiven. Help me. Stephen Benbrook, who's the owner of Zions Gate Records, after wanting to write into the show many times over the years, an incident finally compelled me. I absolutely must share this quick story for the enjoyment of all involved with this stinky show. Christmas Eve, I'm working at my record store in Seattle. A father, son duo were clearly doing some last minute Christmas shopping for what I can only assume is his sister and the son walks up to the counter and he asked me, do you have any post sex nachos? My first reaction was stunned silence. Then I was asking myself, is this person messing with me? Do they know I'm a little after collecting my wits? I said, are you from the Midwest? And he says, yes. And I say, does she listen any sports podcasts? Of course, the next logical question. And he replies, don't think so. At this point, I realized a sister from is from Ohio, simply a fan has probably seen them on tour in the Midwest. Absolutely made my day. Shout out to some random fan in Ohio for putting post sex nachos vinyl on the Christmas list. Had to share. Been an honor and privilege growing old with you. So that's very, very nice. Steve from Fairfield, Connecticut. Love you guys on the podcast, but must have to stop you at microwave bacon. Come on, Tony. Nothing like rendering it, then using the fact to flavor others like French toast and eggs, just serving, just saying from a chef. And can I be the official chef of the podcast? I want to be knighted by you if I do. Yeah. So he's, he's saying, don't do that. Don't do the microwave. Two fields of thought on that. Well, but he's, you know, Michael Diamond place. Yeah. John and Herndon. I'm in a real quandary. We just bought my son our only child, a Subaru Forester. Neither I nor the woman related to me by marriage has ever had a Subaru since Subaru. Since you're a doctor and an expert on Subaru's, I have a few questions. Does this mean we love our son more than we love ourselves? Have we made the wrong choice? Should we return the car? Return the car. Return the car. Do it today. I'm back in Hollis, New Hampshire, but formerly a great neck New York. When you said that a certain email by Larry Sanders couldn't be that Larry Sanders, I wanted to make a correction for the record. While former Milwaukee Bucks player Larry Sanders has been on and off the court over the years, he did most recently play for the Taiwan, Taiwan beer leopards. And he's only 37 years old. So it's quite feasible that he was the one to write you. But that's not who I was talking about. Don't think it was him. It's about the Larry Sanders show. Yes. Yes, Larry Sanders show. Well, Jr., in Keensburg, New Jersey, as me and my family sat down to watch the Packers and Ravens game, I muttered, let's watch the backup bowl. My wife mentioned there's a lot of that this week, and she was absolutely right. When all is said and done, there will be 11 backup quarterbacks playing. Brissette, Brosmer, Cook, Cousins, Ewers, Huntley, Johnson, Ola-Lokin, Rivers, Sanders, Shuff, or Shuck and Willis. Now, that has to be a record. Should tribute a question and possibly a Dan Burns song, let's just put it in his head. I can hear it now. One of the craziest things I've ever seen, 11 backup quarterbacks starting week 17. Wow, I didn't know that. No, neither did I. And Rich Barajas in El Paso, Texas, who writes us off, and I absolutely agree with Michael at the PGA Tour, cannot just welcome back Brooks Kepke with open arms. Now, these last left live. He made his choice. There needs to be ramifications of that choice. Having said that, if my high school girlfriend who broke my heart and dumped me 25 years ago wants to get a hold of me, I will not hesitate to get a burner phone that my wife will not know so that we can reconnect. You're out on your bike tonight. As always, everyone, do wear white. Come on now. That means everybody just cool out. Just cool out. Where you cool out, everybody. I'm out. Where you cool out, everybody. I'm out. Where you cool out, everybody. I'm out. Where you cool out, everybody. I'm out. Where you cool out, everybody. I'm out. Where you cool out, everybody. I'm out. 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