No Jumper

Woah Vicky on Clavicular, Bhad Bhabie, Antonio Brown, Celina Powell & More

82 min
May 18, 202612 days ago
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Summary

Woah Vicki discusses her evolution from viral internet personality to devout Christian, covering her past controversies, relationships with figures like Clavicular and Antonio Brown, and her current focus on faith and family. The episode explores her views on religion, sin, celebrity culture, and her journey away from the lifestyle that made her famous.

Insights
  • Former viral personalities often undergo significant lifestyle transformations driven by personal crises (cancer diagnosis) that redirect them toward faith-based worldviews
  • Social media fame built on controversial identity claims creates lasting credibility challenges even after the person disavows those claims
  • Religious conversion narratives in entertainment often involve complete rejection of previous income streams (OnlyFans, music) creating financial sustainability questions
  • Celebrity relationships are frequently transactional or content-driven rather than genuine, with public reconciliations followed by renewed conflict
  • Conspiracy theories about celebrities (witchcraft, demonic possession, sacrifices) spread rapidly through TikTok and are believed by significant audiences despite lack of evidence
Trends
Religious extremism and conspiracy theory adoption among Gen Z social media personalitiesRejection of traditional entertainment monetization (OnlyFans, music) by former creators seeking spiritual legitimacyParasocial relationship dynamics between podcast hosts and guests creating artificial intimacy and matchmaking scenariosMisinformation about celebrities (Taylor Swift, Beyoncé, Lil Uzi Vert) spreading through social media without fact-checkingGatekeeping of relationships and sexuality through religious frameworks among young influencersPodcast culture normalizing extremely personal questions about sex, drugs, and family trauma as entertainmentStreet credibility and gang affiliation remaining culturally significant status markers in hip-hop discourse
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People
Woah Vicky
Primary guest discussing her viral fame, religious conversion, and personal relationships
Adam22
Host conducting interview with Woah Vicky on his podcast
Bhad Bhabie
Discussed as former rival and subject of Woah Vicky's attempted reconciliation efforts
Clavicular
Discussed as someone Woah Vicky had an internet-based relationship with for content
Antonio Brown
Discussed as someone who has publicly mentioned Woah Vicky and attempted podcast appearances
Celina Powell
Discussed as someone Woah Vicky attempted to befriend and bring to church
Rico Reclas
Discussed as former close friend who sold drugs and was involved in gang activity
Lil Tay
Discussed as former viral peer who recently launched OnlyFans on her 18th birthday
Sean Kingston
Discussed as someone who robbed Woah Vicky's brother at gunpoint during crypto transaction
Gucci Mane
Discussed regarding alleged robbery by Pusha T and contract release negotiations
Pusha T
Discussed as someone who allegedly robbed Gucci Mane and forced contract release
Taylor Swift
Discussed as alleged witch based on misinformation about Bible usage
Beyoncé
Discussed regarding alleged witchcraft and misquoted lyrics from Lemonade
Lil Uzi Vert
Discussed as allegedly demonic based on concert imagery and fashion choices
Ice Spice
Discussed regarding security concerns after being slapped at McDonald's in Hollywood
Wack 100
Mentioned as someone Woah Vicky was scheduled to interview after this episode
Michael B. Jordan
Discussed as allegedly involved in witchcraft based on Babalo prayer reference
Ariana Grande
Discussed as allegedly affected by demonic influence resulting in extreme weight loss
Quotes
"I don't smoke weed. When was the last time you smoked weed? I was probably like 17."
Woah VickyApprox. 1:15:00
"The club is the devil's church. Really? No cap. That's where people go to like worship the devil you're saying?"
Woah VickyApprox. 0:15:00
"I think that the devil has a hold of them. I think that when you get to a certain level of fame and status and influence, that you have to make sacrifices with the devil."
Woah VickyApprox. 2:30:00
"We all got to grow up at some day. Real talk, but would you still collaborate with Gucci main or you feel like he's ruined that opportunity?"
Adam22Approx. 2:45:00
"I'm the most important living white woman. You're up there. Period. You broke doors down."
Adam22 / Woah VickyApprox. 3:00:00
Full Transcript
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Offer to private individuals, £1,000 including the AT saving on new car orders between 15-31 May, must be registered by 30 June 2026, 18-plus season C supply. No jumper, coolest podcast in the world. And today I'm very, very happy to be reunited with my old friend. Period. Whoa, Vicki. How you living? Good, good, blessed. How are you? I'm pretty good. Feeling, uh, feeling fresh. Period. It's a big day. Big day? It's a big day. Why? What you got going on? Um, I don't know. I just have to do another interview after this with Wack 100. Oh, that's cool, yeah. You like him? I don't know him like that. Okay. He's controversial, right? Very. Yeah. Aren't you too? He shaped like a cannonball. Y'all be beefing? Uh, not beefing, but I tried to like bring somebody else onto our podcast the other day and he like attempted to beat them up. So. Why? Why? Because they're Mexican. Really? He's, he's intimidated by Mexican people to hear him tell it. That's what he says. Really? Yeah. He's from like a project that like beefs with. It's like, I know I like a lot of gang stuff, right? Right here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You into all that? No. You travel with that? I'm from Miami. Are you? Originally too? I'm from Atlanta. But I've been in Miami for five years. Right. Okay. So yeah, cause I'm trying to like think back to like, I think it was 2018 when you were at first interview. Yeah. At that time you were still living like in the Atlanta area, right? Yeah, back and forth. Okay. And then you blow up on social media. And then at what point, I guess COVID era you decided that you wanted to move to Miami? Oh, um, a little bit after. Okay. How come you decided to make the move? I love Miami. I always was going there back and forth and you know, I'm from Atlanta. So I feel like it's a little bit similar self, you know, I don't, I really like LA. Yeah. Yeah. What's wrong with LA? A lot. What? Satan is there? That too. A lot of people say that. Yeah. We got a lot of Satan going on here. Yeah. That's what they say. Well, I mean Miami too, right? Yeah. In different ways though. I mean, you go to the clubs and shit? No. Never? Never. So nobody can tell you like come to our section? Oh, never, never go. You would never go? Yeah. How do you? Like look, some, like somebody random in my phone just takes me last night. Let me show you about going to Booby Trial. I just like their message. Oh, with the down vote? Yeah. Really? Just not your scene anymore? Just nothing good can come from going there? Yeah, nothing good come from going there. The club is the devil's church. Really? No cap. That's where people go to like worship the devil you're saying? No, they might not intentionally know they're doing that, but the devil knows. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you go to the club to do what? To smoke, drink, do coke, do lust? Yeah, take pills, find people to have sex with realistically as well as a lot of people are doing there. So I guess I get that. Yeah. But you go to actual church as well? Yes. Okay. What is the church scene like in Miami? Yeah, it's cool. It's good? Yeah. What kind of church? You want to come? You know, people are always trying to give me a church. I know. I don't think it's going to work. I think it's going to work. I don't. Okay. My kid always wants to high five me too. Wait, you guys have one daughter? Yeah. What's her name? Parker. Nice. She's five. How old is she? Five. Yeah. She's very into high five and then low five and then she'll go tickle my finger and then she'll go six, seven. Really? Can you show me a picture of her? Sure. Yeah. I haven't seen her in a while. Oh yeah, so cute. She looks like her mom. Thank you. Appreciate that. Yeah, her mom is beautiful. Thank you. Oh, as she points to her flashlight. Yeah, I don't. Yeah, not that. Wait, isn't her mom from Armenia or Iran? Armenia. Armenia? Yes. Yeah, yeah. Right, I almost said Glendale. Me too. Wait, really? Before you know about Glendale. I used to live there. Wait, really? Armenian people in that environment? Yeah. How was that? Well, I lived with the family that took me in. I don't know if you ever met them, but they were the only black people that lived there. In all of Glendale? In their neighborhood. Okay. Yeah, they lived in the hills. To hear the Armenians tell it, yeah, I don't think I've ever heard anybody talk about a lot of black people living in Glendale. Right, yeah. Although I'm sure they'd be welcome with open arms. Yeah, it was cool. Right, for sure. So okay, like when you first came out, you were kind of like the most famous, like, wigger chick on the planet at that time. Yeah. I think it's safe to say. Yeah, I mean, I was like... More than Bad Baby? Yeah, in a way, yeah. Really? I think so. Really? I mean, at that time, I mean, okay, Bad Baby came out for just being like a crazy ass kid. You came out and it was kind of like, oh, shit, look at this white girl who is really confused about her identity. She's saying that Edward, she just like... You really seem like you believed that you were black, whereas Bad Baby, maybe it was more like she was just kind of white trash. Oh yeah, yeah. I guess what you're saying. But looking back on that, what are your reflections on the way that you became famous so quickly? Well like I said, kind of how it happened was that family that took me in, I loved them, God bless them. They were marketing geniuses. So when they met me, they were like, you can go really viral because this is around the same time that Catch Me Out Slate Girl was going famous. And they were like, because of the way you speak, it doesn't look like you're white. I mean, it doesn't sound like a white person would speak like that. So they were really good at marketing and they were just like, you can go viral by the way you speak, just keep making videos. I was living with them and stuff. So yeah. Wow, okay. So but like what actually, like what was the first thing that went viral that kind of took your whole career, like made you sort of famous? Looking back on it, was there like a particular moment that stands out? No, probably just, you know, the videos and Be Famed with Bad Baby. Yeah, because you did, you ran down on her at the mall to fight at one point. She ran out on me. Oh, okay. She pulled up with you. You were with Lil Tay. And she pulled up to fight you. And looking back on that, is that just like, just seem like the craziest like little kid type behavior ever? Like the fact that like, like that was something we hadn't really seen. It was just funny to me. Like a bunch of teenage white girls fighting each other at the mall. Like famous ones. Yeah. And it's kind of like out there. She was serious about it though. But for me, it was just a joke. Really? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, she always, that was one thing that helped make her so viral is that she was very serious about everything. I love this stuff. And super mad or just like aggressive about shit. For real, for real. Still, yeah. Yeah. That's kind of sad though. It seems like she has a lot of anger built up, but I know God and Jesus can help her with that. Really? I know, yeah. Okay. You think that's the thing that could sort of save her from wherever she's at? Because you had like cancer. I know. And she pops back out with a BBL and shit. I know. Yeah. Yeah. I was just telling my friend about that and I'm really grateful because, you know, stress kills. I do believe when you stress too much that that can eventually turn to cancer. Yeah. And I know like when you have God and when you are not living such a toxic lifestyle, you know, you definitely be healthier and have peace. Okay. So I'm going to mention that to her is that maybe if you want to get rid of your cancer, you need to stop being so stressed. Give your life to Jesus. Just take a Xanax. Yeah. And then it didn't, you know, you have cancer. If you can die any moment, you really want to make sure you have Jesus Christ because you don't know where you're going when you die. You want to make sure you know where you're going. So you believe that all you need to do to get into heaven is to be saved before you die? You do need to be saved and then you have to make a decision to live a certain way and that's following him. Yeah. But there's no religion all about or Christianity all about forgiveness. So like if I ask for forgiveness from God, then I can kind of keep up and it's not the end of the world. You're going to believe a Bible verse that says, I read it earlier, it says, shall we continue living in sin? Of course not. So basically that means stop living in sin. Yeah. Don't make a decision to live in sin. You know, we're human beings. We're going to mess up, but at some point you got to make a decision. Yeah. Definitely. Yeah. We should definitely talk about religion more as this keeps going, but you know, I have a crazy memory is that like this is how viral slash toxic you were viewed at the time is that I remember when I interviewed you and all of a sudden multiple people that I was friends with were like so mad at me for interviewing you that they like unfollowed me and were like tweeting, talking shit about me and stuff. And like most of those people are basically like homeless or like live with their parents again now. Yeah. Like at that time it was just kind of like mind blowing to me like what you guys cared that much about me interviewing this girl who's viral that I just like kind of wanted to find out what she was all about. Yeah. Was that the first interview or was that like the Rico Reclas one? That was the first one. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Because then yeah, later on me, you, Lena and Rico Reclas did an episode and I understand you and him became good friends up to that. We became best friends. Really? Yeah. What would you guys do when you hung out? He would just take me with him to like go right around and like, I think he just would like have parties and like sell drugs. Oh. Yeah. And would you ever do the drugs with him? No. Actually, I did try lean with him. Really? Yeah. And how was that? It actually tasted really good, but yeah, I know. Yeah. Did you feel really good afterwards? Like maybe it was going to tickle your cancer? Probably just felt tired. Right. Yeah. I didn't even know that that was like how Rico Reclas had money back then. Oh, I mean, I don't know. Yeah. I'm not the face. He probably doesn't do that anymore though for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Because he was dating a summer walker for a while there. And he booked up. That was like the dream couple. Did you support that union? Um, I don't, I can't support, you know, something outside of marriage fornication. And I know that, and no reason why I can't support it is because I know what it leads to when you say it didn't work out. So God bless them. But you need to like date somebody for a while before you get married. But I don't mean have sex. We don't know if they had sex, right? Okay. I mean, I assume. Yeah. It's Rico Reclas. And. And summer walker. Yeah. Did you and Rico Reclas ever have sex? No. That was like, like my brother. You were just like real cool. Yeah. Plus, plus, you know, um, back then I was a little bit, I was a little bit younger and I wasn't so cute yet. So that many guys wasn't trying. But now I'm really cute. For sure. Yeah. And also though, I think like Rico Reclas is probably the type of dude who's just such a giving person that he would probably want to have sex with someone, even if they weren't really that cute, I think. Oh, I don't know about that. No. Okay. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, not like, like, I feel like he could see the good in a person to the point where he wouldn't even really. But that's like my brother. Yeah. Yeah. I love him. Definitely. I haven't talked to him in a long time though. Did he tell you about like gangster stuff he used to do back in Chicago? Yeah. Like anything in particular? Spinning on the ops. I've been a while, you know. Oh, okay. Yeah. Definitely. Yeah. So, okay. In more recent times, you've been real viral recently because you were like dating clavicular. Oh, yeah. Can we talk about that? We weren't really dating. It was just for the internet. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. But how did you guys even get brought together in the first place? Do you want more kids with Lena? Yeah. How many? Um, at least one. Maybe two more. Of seven? A son would be cool. Yeah. What would you name him? Oh, it's hard with guy names. Really? Yeah. What's her name? My daughter? Yeah. Oh, Parker. Parker, cool. Yeah. Yeah. No, but it's hard to find like an interesting cool. You know what guy I named him? I like Josiah. What? Josiah. Yeah. Is that from the Bible? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Which is X. Yeah. I'm cool with his mom. You still talk to her? Here and there. Really? Yeah. Actually, yeah, I always wanted to do an interview with her. I got a tap back in. I went to Jamaica with her. You should. Wait, really? Yeah. You went to Jamaica with her? I was in Jamaica. She was in Jamaica and we linked up. Really? Yeah. She showed me around. Like she showed love. Because she's from there, right? Yeah, exactly. Okay. Wow. That's sick. Yeah. Um, yeah. But oh wait. And then what? And then he just like was a little bit mean at the end. Really? He was just over it? I don't know. I think it was the meth. The meth? Yeah. I heard he's not like really on meth on a consistent basis. Like maybe once in a while, but. Well, maybe that's why he was nice the other time. He didn't mean that time. Maybe you caught him on the come down from the meth. Yeah. Yeah. The Phoenix. Phoenix. Yeah. I mean just stream. The withdrawal. Streaming 24 hours like that. Anti-drug, but then because he wants to be on stream for so long. He has to do it. He kind of has to, which I get. Because it's like when I get on stream sometimes I find myself smoking and drinking and stuff. Really? And like I don't really drink ever, but then sometimes I'll be on stream and I'll be like, oh, this will make it more fun. Interesting. Yeah. That sounds like I could see that because I did try streaming and I'm like, I'm done with stream. I can't do it anymore. You just didn't think you were good at it or what? Yeah. I'm like, I'm just a girl. I focus on being a cute girl and maybe just being on other people's streams whenever. Yeah. Yeah. To be the person leading the stream and having to talk every five seconds is like pretty crazy. It is, right? They told me that they're all on Adderall. Yeah. And Adderall is meth. I just thought about that. It is different. But it has some chemical similarities. Amphetamines. Yeah. Right? Yeah. But like meth hits you a lot harder. Okay. I don't know. I put my Adderall when I was younger. You didn't do it? No. You just, you knew about it? Oh, I did. I did try it. But it made me feel like a zombie. Really? Yeah. So I got off quick. Damn, yeah. All that stuff is tough for me. They put me on an antidepressant when I was a kid and I just, everything was just foggy. That stuff is terrible. Yeah. I mean, I think it's good for some people. I don't, I don't agree with that stuff. Yeah. I think it's kind of, I don't know. It's unnecessarily hated on the thing. I got the best antidepressant. God. The Bible. The Bible. The Word of God. Yeah. Amen. You know. Does it bother you that I'm an atheist and that I don't believe in God? No. I don't like that tattoo, no. The goat head? The baphomet? Yeah, you know. It's kind of evil. Yeah. I got the upside on the cross and my face too. I've seen that. I got a burn in church on my arm. What? Yeah. God bless you. Real, real evil. Jesus loves you. Yeah. I don't even believe he existed. He probably existed, but I don't think he was the son of God. He was. Yeah. How do you know? And God. And he was God. Yeah. How do you know? What makes you so confident? I don't know. You just got to know. It's either, it's a Bible verse about it. You want me to read it? Yes. 100%. Hold on. It says this right here. It says, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart, that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. Therefore, I want you to understand that no one speaking of the spirit of God ever says Jesus is a cursed and no one can say Jesus is Lord except in the Holy Spirit. Okay, but that's not really telling me why I should believe in God. It's just kind of saying, hey, believe in God. Oh yeah. I don't know. You should believe in God. You should believe in God because do you want to be happy and have peace, happiness, and joy? You want to have peace, love, and joy? I feel like I already have those things with God. You think you have joy? Yeah. You think you have peace? Yeah. You think you have love? For sure. Do you want love? Yeah. All right. Do you think that you want to be forgiven for your sins? I don't even care. Really? Yeah, like why would I need somebody to forgive me? Like obviously I've done bad things, but I'm not like tormented by it or anything. I'm not really worried about it. Really? I mean, you kind of need to believe in heaven and hell in order to like really care about being saved, right? Because otherwise, like the fact that I don't believe in hell, it's like what do I need to be saved from? So what do you think happens when you die? I don't know. Who do you think created this earth? Who do you think created the beach? Probably like just time and nature and evolution. You know that science even proved that there's a creator, right? How? Yeah. You want me to show you? I guess, yeah. It's true though. Science proved that? Yeah. That's crazy. No cap. If you, and the Bible says seek me and you will find me. So it's, I don't think you're focused on seeking, right? But if you was focused on seeking and you did all your research, you would lead to God, which is the Bible. What about the one problem that I have is that I feel like all of the really smart people whose books I read and whose sub stacks I read and whose opinions I respect about the world pretty much don't believe in God either. Yeah. So I feel like I don't. This world is run by. I would have to listen to somebody who I didn't really respect or trust because most of the people that are really out there like preaching about God, I just consider either like charlatans or total hypocrites. Really? I mean, a lot of people in the Republican party, I'll give them that. Okay. I don't really care about Republican or Democrat. I just care about God. What about Trump? You were a big, big Trump supporter. Are you still rocking with Trump? I was. Like I said, I don't really care about that stuff. I'm team Jesus. So do you think Trump is like the president of God, like the president that's most likely to bring our country towards God? I don't know, but I know that I don't agree with transgenderism and stuff. And Trump has definitely done a lot to hurt the trans movement. But don't you think being respectful and kind to trans people is probably like a pretty important part of being Christian? Yeah, but that doesn't mean you've got to promote sin. And then I feel like also the being nice and loving is telling someone the truth and not letting them make a decision that can ultimately ruin their... Because you probably think that like being trans is a mental illness as opposed to an actual preference. No, I believe it's the demons. It's the devil. Okay. It's like a mental illness that a demon planted inside your brain? Probably both. Okay. All of the above. It's really just the devil though. But if somebody's mentally ill, shouldn't you be kind to them and respectful about whatever their delusions are? I'll be kind to them and tell them the truth. Which is like you're a dude. And tell them about God and love on them, of course. But I'm not going to lie to them and say, yeah, that's cool. Yeah. God, oh, like you think God made a mistake that making me a woman? Okay. But if somebody wants to live their life as a woman, isn't it kind to like refer to them as a woman or to refer to them as her? Would you smash a trans? No. All right. Having sex with them is probably like a little too kind. Okay. But like... How would you feel if you had a son and they turned to a trans? I would be respectful of it, I think. Oh, okay. I mean, I would probably be a little skeptical of it, but a lot of the trans people I've known throughout my life have been like pretty clearly trans from an early age or like, you know, wanting to go in that direction, I think. I don't even know like a gay dude who like... I remember gay kids in school, they were like nine and they were just like so obviously gay. But to me, it's kind of crazy to think that like that would be a choice. Like, you know, you're probably not making that choice when you're eight, you know? Do you think it's a choice? I gave someone this example earlier, right? We were born in sin, right? If you put something, a toy in front of a baby and say, hey, don't touch that. You walk away and you come back. They're going to touch it and they're going to tell you they didn't touch it, right? Yeah. So we were born in sin. So the baby toy is like drugs and alcohol and sex and all these things that are kind of bad? Yeah, I mean, this world promotes the opposite of what God is. Why do you think the world is so messed up and why the world is strayed so far away from God? Well, that's why Jesus has to come back. But also because this, you know, when the devil... I don't know, you don't believe in it. So you know, when the devil fell from heaven, he brought a third of his angels with him and came down here on the earth and he wants to confuse and bring as many people with him as he can to hell. So human beings have a chance. We have a choice. We get to choose whether we're going to follow God or not. You know what I'm saying? He don't have a choice. So he wants to confuse and bring as many people with him to hell. Because once you die, you don't get a second choice. Have you managed to find men to date who... It's tough. Are... because they're not very religious on average or they say they're religious but they're not really about that? Yeah, it's just tough. Very tough. Who is the guy that you've dated that had the best connection with God? Mmm, none. None of them? Yeah. Where about Klaav? You think he needs God? He's cool. But do you think that he really needs like Jesus to come visit him and bring him over? I think we all do. Right. But maybe him more. He's like, he's banging a different girl every night. He's doing drugs, all kinds of drugs. We have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. Right. Even when I was with him, he injected my penis with something. I don't know about that. But no sin is like bigger than the other. So like, we were all once, you know, living in sin and we all once rejected God. And you know, it's nothing. You just got to... He's right there waiting on you. Wait, but like, no sin is bigger than the other. So you're saying that if I kill five people, that that's just as bad as killing 50 people? That's why Vavra says that there's no sin is bigger than the other. I mean, it probably impacted different lives differently. Yeah. What about if I kill Hitler versus if I kill a baby? It's like way better to kill Hitler, right? Let me show you my favorite song. I love this girl. It's my favorite song. Tell me what you think about it. Uh, wait a minute. It's not even in English. I know. Who's M-O-M-G? It's like some African shit. But guess what they're talking about? God. Yeah. Nice. Yeah. I love it. You listen to a lot of African music or that's just like the one song that made it onto your playlist? A lot. Really? Hey, guess who recently cussed me out? Who? Selena Paolo. Really? I saw that you wanted to become friends with her. How'd you know that? Uh, oh, I was looking at your Twitter and you just said, I'm sorry. I was looking at your Twitter and you said I wanted to do a stream with Selena Paolo. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So some football player that I know added me to cover her and then like, she, and then she told him, I'mma put a spell on you. Why you gave that girl my number and she posted about me on her story and stuff. But I just, I didn't even. So you were a fan of her and then she just like went out talking shit about you over like nothing? Yeah. Really? Yeah. She's actually scared of me though. She's out of control. Yeah. She has demons. I'mma prep her to go bless her. I, I, I, um, I truly just wanted to meet her cause I feel like, um, I couldn't pack her in a flu, in a positive way. Do you know, uh, uh, delicious? No. Who's that? This like black chick with really huge boobs who was on the Drusky show. And she's like, she was hanging out Selena for a while. No, you guys, can I look her up? Uh, yeah. It's like DAL something. Let me see. Um, but she, Selena hanging out with Selena and then like Selena walked away for a little bit and I kind of felt bad doing it, but I was like, so like how long y'all gonna be, how long y'all gonna be hanging out for? Like how long do you think this friendship is going to last? And I don't know why I can't find it. Maybe she got deleted. Everybody getting deleted right now. But um, and she was just kind of like, yeah, you know, I'm, uh, I'm not sure. Like she just, she clearly like was kind of worried about it in her own right. You know that, uh, I mean, this is like an alternate account or something. Let me see. I'm gonna see one of her. Oh, uh, now I never seen, I'm probably seeing her. Oh, okay. Yeah. Oh, so they were friends? Yeah. And I just asked her, I'm like, yo, so like, just so you know, I'm like, Selena got a time limit. She's like, she gone with you for about two, three weeks. And then you're going to be out of here. Yeah. Yeah. And she's like, oh, she's always, she'll come to this podcast with some girls or best friend and then two weeks later, she's just trash in her. Really be like that. Yeah. She's a wild one. God bless her. Yeah. Do you think, uh, so Selena has demons. Um, well, you think there's a strong chance anyone, anyone that's not like all the way, like we got going to have that. Right. Yeah. You want to know the moment that I knew that Selena Powell had demons is when she did a podcast with me and then she ate my ass right afterwards. Let me play my favorite song again. No, we can't. There's a copyrighted. We can't play too much more. No, but she did, but it was on camera. No. We did it for only fans. I, yeah. But now she told me that she has a big problem where she'll start trying to date a guy and it'll be going good. And then at some point he'll find out that she ate out in 22 asshole and then he'll get mad and that'll be the end of that thing, which I really don't feel like it should be that big a deal. Well, maybe that's why she should give her life to Jesus. Because when you give your life to Jesus, all things are made new and old sins have passed away. But you could be into Jesus and still eat butt, right? I mean, I'm sure there's tons of people. I film porn with people that are religious all the time. Men and women. Sometimes the guys will have big religious tattoos on their chest and then they're just getting a tattoo. I mean, that's about your heart. Is it in your heart? You got to get tattooed in your heart. You haven't made a decision in your heart. And fornication is a sin. So anyone that's doing that, they might claim to be that, but they're not living accordingly. But what if it's acting? I don't care. There's no acting to God. You do it or you, what you do is a sin. Okay. But you could be in a movie and you could kill people in the movie. Like my pastor said, first of all, Hollywood is not really of God. Like if you're getting sent back to Hollywood is to tell them about God is what I'm kind of doing. But yeah, Hollywood is just not it. So I don't even the movies like this. No, it's all the opposite. But they do porn in Miami too. Okay. But like I said, I was just talking about when I mean Hollywood, I didn't mean Hollywood, the city I'm in Hollywood, the performing arts. But also you live in like the second most cynical place in America probably or maybe the first depending on who you are. That's true. I'm now the first. It might now be. Right. I'm just like that sinful for a silly to power to my ass on camera because I baby wipe. The demons are manifesting like kind of a lot. Honestly, I rebuke. I'm just like the baby white makes so much sense to me. If your dog shit on the ground, you couldn't just clean it up with a paper towel. So I think just using toilet paper on your butt is like pretty. Fornication is a sendo. But what's the difference between sex and fornication fornication? Sex is fornication. All sex is the same. Yeah. But outside of marriage. Okay. But if you get married, are you only allowed to have sex to have kids or can you have sex to like just have fun too? Once you get married, I show wife you're going to be smashing. Okay. Yeah. But I feel like a lot of religious people think that that's the whole problem is just having sex for fun, whether you're married or not. I don't know. See the thing is you keep saying like religion and it's about having a relationship with Jesus. I'm sure you've heard this before. Right. But that religion is Christianity. That's the religion that you fall under. We don't call it religion. We call it relationship. Because religion is like a bunch of rules. It's like, oh, if I do these rules, if I still live however I want, I'm good. But it's a relationship with God and Jesus that makes you. But you're really into the Bible, which is kind of a list of rules in one case, very specifically with the Ten Commandments. It's like 10 rules. Have you read the New Testament? I've glossed over it. Yeah. Glossed over it. I'm taking a look. Yeah. I'm going to buy you a Bible. Yeah. I like the Sodom and Gomorrah stuff. Yeah. I feel like we probably got that coming our way over here in LA. But I'm into metal and gore and shit. So like, I mean. That's very demonic. You can never get into it. You can watch a horror movie? No. It invites evil spirits in. Really? Just because it's like a guy in a werewolf mask and he's chasing a girl around? Yes. That's evil? Yeah. It doesn't seem that evil. It seems like kind of harmless. I was just telling somebody that I didn't know. I had no nothing idea about the movie centers. I just found out that Michael B. Jordan was in the movie. I know the movie is demonic. But I was telling somebody that I think Michael B. Jordan is very handsome, but I don't really like him because I know he's into witchcraft because he told someone that my Babalo in Africa, that's who I prayed to or something like that. And Babalo is a person that helps with witchcraft. It's like a high priest for witchcraft. Oh really? Yeah. I'm trying to tell you is these movies have a lot that goes into it that we don't know about. Why do you think that Ariana Grande got so skinny after making that movie? Body image issues probably. No. It was demonic. Do you think the devil made her lose weight? No, I'm not a Jehovah Witness, but I am a witness of Jehovah. Somebody asked me if I was a Jehovah Witness. You don't think that it's like she's on a zempik like everybody else in Hollywood? No, I look spiritual. I look demonic. The wages of sin is death, so it's going to eventually start the show. I do agree that Ariana Grande looks hideous and that she really, like if my daughter was a little bit older, I probably wouldn't even want her to watch Wicked because I think it's just like, that's harmful for little girls to see this chick that skinny. Like what the fuck is wrong with you? Eat a fucking burger. Eat a freaking burger. Yeah. You don't swear either. Yeah, I don't swear. But did you see Wicked? No. Oh, okay. Even just the title is kind of not up your alley, right? Exactly. Not on my alley. So are you, you're cool with Antonio Brown now? We was. So you got cool for a while and now you're not cool again? We still cool actually. I could probably FaceTime. It might be with his family. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah, he's always talking shit to me. I don't know what it is. He don't like you? He's got a little bit of a hard on for me, I think. Which I went through. I don't know. He just randomly tweeting at me and stuff. He seems like kind of obsessed. Have you ever met? No. Have you had, well, any interactions? He was trying to come on the podcast a couple of years ago and then he started asking for like a bunch of money. Maybe that's, you know. And that was awkward because it was like, he was like talking shit on Twitter and then was like asking me over and over if he could come on the podcast and I was like, all right, let's do it. And then he asked for money and I'm just like, like this feels corny. Like I would be maybe open to giving you some money if you hadn't led with talking shit. I don't know. But so did you guys date at one point? It was cool friends. You was cool friends. Was this before you went full God mode? We never slept together. We never had sex. Oh, okay. Yeah. Because he said one of the craziest things ever on the internet about you. Oh, he did say that. Yeah. Something about fingering you with weed crumbs on his fingers. But yeah. Was that true? You think? No, it wasn't true. Because you really need to wash your hands after you roll a blunt. Before you're gonna finger a girl. It'd be as cool though. He is. Yeah. But praying for him as well. Did he just make that up or do you think there was any truth to that? Yeah, I just made. Were you smoking weed with him at that time? I don't smoke weed. When was the last time you smoked weed? I was probably like 17. Oh, shit. So you're actually like on the straight and narrow. Yeah. Okay. For sure. So, okay, what did Trump actually do that like pissed you off and made you feel like you didn't want 100% to be buying it? Trump didn't do none of the piss me off. I don't even keep up with that type of stuff. Is it because he deployed ICE all over the country and that they've been like dragging all these immigrants back to their home countries? This doesn't seem that Christianly. Like I said, God bless. So do you agree with ICE? Do you agree with it? In a general sense, no. I think if you've been in this country for quite some time and you don't have a criminal record, then I don't see why it should be such a priority that we'd be dragging people out of their houses. An immigrant works at my dad's house. She raised me since I was six years old. But anyways, I just agree with Jesus. I don't know what else to say. You remember when they asked Trump about his favorite Bible verse? What did he say? He said the whole Bible? He said honestly, all of them. He's like, I couldn't pick one. And they go, Old Testament or New Testament. He says, they're both so great. He's just like, it's just so obvious. He's never looked at the Bible before. What is that? What is that? That is that's actually Charleston White's eye. When Sean Cotton from St. Cheese, you know, Charleston White, I trust him. Why is my friend? Oh, really? Yeah. Well, we have his eye here because Sean Cotton came here and actually brought it to us. I'm about to leave. He said that he paid a guy in the mafia to pull Charleston White's eye out of his head. I'm just going to believe that's not real. Yeah. I mean, I personally think that Sean Cotton is probably lying about it. But I've met Charleston White. He has an eye. He has one eye. OK, I don't know. I couldn't tell. That's the other one. All right. Next question. All right. OK. So have you reached out to bad baby to try to like squash the beef? It's really funny that you do an interview with him. What does he think about you? He doesn't like me. Yeah. It's weird. Actually, he talked shit about me for years and years and years. And then finally I met him in Miami. Super nice to me. Said at the fight. Yes. Said we're he said we're going to do an interview. I did see he said we're going to do an interview. And then as soon as I left, he started talking shit again. So that's why I kind of realized like, oh, OK, that's how you get down. Because I thought we were actually going to do an interview. You know, we did we say what's up to each other to fight? No, I was kind of my own zone. Yeah, yeah, I get it. I didn't. Yeah. That's cool. You went to who'd you go with Charleston? No, I went with a home girl. Yeah. OK. And I ran into a lot of people for sure. So wait. So have you reached out to bad baby to try to formally squash the beef or no? I think so. Yeah, I thought I like that. Like I was just trying to encourage her into things of God and that she can get out of the toxic relationship, but she didn't respond to me. He was she was following me at one point and she unfollowed. Interesting. Yeah. Do you when you see her getting like her whole body done and everything, do you feel like that's of God or is that kind of? That's probably up to her. Yeah. I don't think it's all necessary. Right. She didn't have to do that. Yeah. She might be just doing it for herself. Just because it makes her feel good, I guess. You know, I don't know. I prefer natural beauty. So you never got anything done? Um, not really. The boobs are natural. Yeah. The lips are natural. Not the lips. The lips. I'll get a little bit of the lips. It's like, every girl, every girl says that everything that's all of us has the lips. Yeah. Yeah. Wait. So you said that you feel like you became a baddie after we did the first interview. Yeah. Was that an intentional process and how did you go about achieving that baddie status? I think I did. I just got more cute. Yeah. There has been times where I've seen your photos where I'm like, Oh shit. Like she's turning into a woman. That's crazy. Yeah. I don't know. How old are you now? 25. 25. A lot of people be in my DMs. Yeah. That's still hell of young. Yeah. Damn. Yeah. Who's in your DMs? A lot of people. Um, rappers? All of the above. What, um, there's not any of them that you've been interested in? Maybe I'm interested a little bit, but I already know like what type of time it is. So I don't really entertain it too much. Do you feel like you're good at sensing when it's a booty call? Of course. Do you primarily want to date black men? I just want to date a man of God. So you would be just as happy with a white guy as a black guy? Um, like I said, just a man of God. I feel like nowadays though, it feels like a black man who gets into a relationship with a white woman is kind of tricky. Like, cause they get a lot of hate for it. It's like a lot of scrutiny about this decision. And I don't, I don't think, not in Miami. Maybe out here and not in Miami though. Yeah. But you might be surprised about what their community is saying. You know, I don't really care. But I mean, there's only two races. What are the, and that's, um, you either got a spirit of God or you got a spirit of the devil. Aren't those like not races? There's only two races. See the spirit of God and spirit of the devil. Yeah. Cause like God is a spirit, right? A lot of people want to focus on like, Oh, Jesus was this color. Jesus that color. But let's not forget who his dad was. His dad was God. And that's what made him God. Cause he had God's spirit living in him. You don't focus too much on the flesh. You focus on the spirit that's inside the person. So it's not about like, you know, this, I heard this process. They're like color is something that we celebrate. If you see a bunch of people of different races, I'll get together. That's something you celebrate. It's cool. It's fun. It's love. You know, I guess it's all about like what you care about because I could see it from the perspective of a black woman that she looks at a black man date and a white woman and she's like, Hey, like you're supposed to be working. And on behalf of our community, why are you going outside of our community to find love? I don't really agree with that. Um, I think that if someone looks at anything like that, then they need to have more God in them. Ooh. So they're putting their race before their God. Exactly. They're out of life in their race. Exactly. Yeah. I mean, it would be a lot better to be with what? Like a, like a, like a black guy dating a white woman who's of God, who's Godly versus a black woman who's maybe not so Godly. I don't agree with that. I think like love doesn't have a color. Right. But I'm just saying, like, you know, should we put appreciation for God before? Yeah. Right. Right. Yeah. That's true. Got it. That's true. What about Alabama Barker? Like, uh, have you actually spent time with her in recent memory? No, you know, um, I met her when she was like 13, I was 17. We went to her house. Yeah. Now she act like she don't know me though. She actually shown on you. Yeah. Really? Yeah. I saw her at a fair and it was definitely that vibe. You want to know why she doesn't fuck with me? Why? Because she did a stream, like a big all night stream, right? And somebody on her team invited me to do this prank or whatever. So I pulled up with a bunch of total gang members to be totally fair. I was with Brick baby and X4 and we're all hanging out, drinking lean and everything. And then, okay. So bad baby. Who I hadn't probably talked to for like seven years before that she messages me and she goes, give me the address. I want to know where that bitch staying at about Alabama because she hated her so much at the time because this is maybe like a year ago. And I didn't even respond, but I showed the text to Alabama because she was kind of standing there right there. I'm like, Hey, look what your ops said. And as soon as she saw it, she flipped out because she thought that I was like giving her the address, which I didn't. It was just a misunderstanding. Yeah. But she like, she like hates me now because of this thing that didn't even happen. Well, I think that's kind of lame because you were just trying to show her what's up and like, you know, she probably just jumped to conclusions. Yeah. I was trying to show her like, Hey, look how I'm not going to tell this person where you stay. I just wanted her to know that she was even inquiring about it. No, I see what you're saying. That's, that's, yeah. I think that's unnecessary for her to not like you over that. Yeah. That was weird. Right. I mean, to me, it was crazy. Yeah. So what was up with you getting sex traffic to Nigeria? Did that really happen? And was that, was that for content? Yeah. That was rumors on the internet. I never said anything like that. Okay. But did you go to Nigeria? I did go to Nigeria. Okay. And so then there was like a rumor of you getting kidnapped. Yeah. And they wanted a million dollars to release you and did the US embassy really get involved? No. There was just no truth to it at all. The whole thing was fake. Yeah, no truth to it. Why did you go to Nigeria to find a man? No, my best friends lived there. Really? But I would never go back. Just cause of the sex trafficking thing. It's just not safe there. Wait, but so you did get kidnapped at some point? No. Not at all. But Tanzania was very nice. Okay. I went there. It was very nice. But Nigeria, not so much. No. Damn. I don't recommend it. But Tanzania, I recommend you and your wife should go. Really? Yeah. I don't know. I don't know how I feel about her being around so many black men and one whole big country of them. It's kind of scary. Just kidding. Okay. But that's a good question. Do you think that I am living in sin because my wife has had sex with multiple men on camera outside of our relationship? You guys can make a decision to stop. Right. But right now, very sinful. Um, I think that you don't have to keep doing that. And I think that if you give your life to Jesus, that you will not want to do that anymore. It's a hard decision, like I said. But you don't think that two people can just like have fun sexually while still being like religious. Me and her aren't religious, but I could imagine that if we were, we would still be able to justify. I don't think sin is fun. I think for sure sin is fun. Okay. That's why they call Vegas sin city. You know what the Bible does say though? The Bible says sin is joyful for a season, but in the end it leads to death. So yeah, that's for an occasion where that person might feel good for the first month or two, but in the end you're going to be heartbroken. You got to be depressed. You're going to get every spirit, um, the money spirit of that person ever had. It could be a lazy spirit, could be a jealousy spirit. Now you got that all on you. We've been having sex with other people for like 10 years. The whole time we've been together, we've been having three sins with girls. A lot of issues. Not really. I think we're pretty well balanced. I know that the Bible says the wages of sin is deaf and I know from experience. I would say like, okay, drugs, if you're doing drugs all the time, it'll be fun for a season. Like I get you on that. But as far as like sleeping with other people, sex is terrible. And I think even the God doesn't think sex is terrible. It's not terrible. And when you do it, God's way. No, no, no. When you do it, God's way, I've never done it. God's way. So I'm speaking from my experience. Every experience I've done having sex was fornication. It never worked out. It always, this is what I'm just trying to say. Like obviously I'm, I'm not perfect. I gave my life to Jesus. So, so I can't walk the right way now. But obviously, you know what I'm saying? It never worked out. And it lead me sad, empty, depressed, this feeling you get. You just, it's just not a good feeling. You know what I'm saying? So all I'm trying to say is yes, God did create sex. Sex is a beautiful thing when you do it God's way. And God did create sex, but he created it within a union. Do you, do you believe that it's possible for somebody to maintain on good terms with God by doing anal sex instead of, I don't know, I think that's a sin. And that's disgusting. So anal is just as bad as vaginal sex. No. What? Anal sex is terrible in any way. But a lot of like strict Christian people will have a problem. You need Jesus to help you. Something to go, you need. Yeah. So even, okay, even if you are Christian, heterosexual couple and you're, and you do anal sex, that's disgusting, disgusting, disgusting. But what do you have to say to all the Mormon people and shit who do it? For the, and they need Jesus. They ain't following the right way. Norman is not the way of God. Mormon. Whatever it's called. Norman. For sure. Um, okay. So, uh, what? Okay. Sorry. Who's that right there? Who's that? That's, uh, that's J main, FYB J main. I got to set you up with him. You would love him. Really? Yeah. Why? Cause he makes cereal. He does comedy. Show me here. Show me. If you type FYB, I'm pretty sure. You have, you have any, um, cute friends you think you could set me up with? I mean, they're probably nowhere near as religious. But I just show me some. Can you FaceTime some of them? Yeah, sure. Yeah. FaceTime. This is J main. He does interviews. You could probably go do an interview with them. Yeah. Let me see who we go. FaceTime some of who you think would be good. Okay. Let's do that. Um, okay. Don't tell me who it is. Just call her. What up? Yeah. So I'm doing an interview with a young lady and she just told me to hit up some friends of mine that I think would be good to take her on a date. So I told her that I was not anymore, brother. I'm Mary. Not, not when whoa, Vicki is on FaceTime. You ain't married. His wife is beautiful. Yeah. We, y'all live in Texas or LA? You want to take my nigga girl? I don't know him or you. This was all, Hey, uh, Mrs. Dutilo, this is all my idea. This, he has no involvement in this at all. You can check our, our, our text history. This was just, I didn't even know who he was going to call. Yeah. She, she just wanted me to hit up good God fearing men. I appreciate you. OTF duty low. I've heard of him. Yeah. Ball guy. Yeah. Yeah. Custom videos. I keep looking through the phone. Where do they live? OTF. That's a crazy name. OTF like little dark. Yeah. Yeah. He's like little dark's best friend. Oh, um, his girl is pretty. Yeah. She did look very pretty. I'm, honestly, I didn't even, uh, I didn't even know he had a girl. Yeah. Yeah. So it'd be like that. Kind of awkward. Yeah. I called somebody the other day and tried to put them on my friend and they beat my, my cuss me out. See, that's going to happen. I'm not happening again right now. I'm going through my recent calls. So it's like all very, uh, very current. That's the best thing. There was actually a no jumper host who was in here earlier that, uh, you, you had an awkward moment with someone in the chat said, call me Adam. Do you know that person? Call me Adam. No, I don't, I don't know. MSM T one three three. I don't know. Oh, I tried to call Adrian Bronner. He's, I guess he's busy. Oh no, no, no, no. I mean, I was like a world class athlete right there. I think that could be really good. Didn't he go broke? At one time. I thought he was still with. Oh, we just lost our light. Oh, and see, I like your warehouse, but look, he has to go up in there with a fucking broomstick to turn the light back on. I don't really understand this. Wow. This is probably like really romantic. Oh no, no, no, no, no. You got somebody. I got this is the one. This is the one. No, this is the one. This is the one. Did you? Yeah. This is the one. If you pick up, this is the one. This is the one night at two. Who is lush? Lush is a great man. But he could be like another guy that might make sense for you to date. He's not answering. Who is that? That was Chris Mack. I think that sounds familiar. I think you met Lush. You did. You met, you met Lush out there. Who's lush? Lush is a, um, a great man. I don't know who that is. I met him. You did. You met him out there. He's the white guy. In Miami? No. He was out in the hallway before. Oh no. Yeah. All right. I'm going to try one more. Who? BFB. What's going on? I was wondering if I could hook you up with my lady friend right here. Man, stop playing. What? BFB the pegman. Whoa, Vicky. That's, that's a little collab. Oh, whoa, Vicky. Bro, what the hell is Georgia on a man? What's going on, Vicky? All right. Hey, God bless you. Who are you? Where do you live? Um, what do you do? Man, I rap man. I ain't nobody man. I just. You're from California? No, uh, I'm from Michigan. Michigan. Okay. I can tell. Yeah, I'm from Michigan. You believe in Jesus Christ? Do you believe in Jesus Christ? Do I believe in Jesus Christ? Yeah, do you? Amen. Do you believe in Jesus Christ? Of course, I'm just making sure you do and you should follow him and read his word and give your life to him. God bless you. Now what you up there doing? I'm just interviewing her and she's trying to get me to find her a good man that is down to be in a loving Christian relationship. But. All right, man. Hey, Crip, Crip Mack didn't pick up. So you got, you got called in. I mean, y'all have a nice day. I much love brother. I can't call somebody handsome. What do you mean? You don't think he's handsome? All your friends is ugly. I mean, ugly is an eye of the beholder. I know you got somebody else. I mean. There's a few other people. I'm gonna kind of look at their. I'm not. Is this what Kodak did his interview? Kodak did do his interview in this room. Yes. With all his Y's. Yes. Yeah. So you stopped saying the N word? Yeah. And how's that going? Good. Blast. Can I call one more person? Yes. All right. One more. One more attempt here. Yeah. Let's see if we can get one more. Yeah. Jack. But I got a play for you. I came up on a fire white bitch that is looking for a man. Well, Vicki, bro, this is crazy. She asked me for a good man. Don't call me a white being. Sorry. Hey, let me see. I'm not a good man. Oh, what's your name? He does destruction. He's all about destruction. What's your name? Jap five. What's your Instagram? Jap five right. Japanese five. Yeah. Jap. It's like. Japanese five. You're from LA. You're from LA. He's got a mean squabble. How am I going to suppose 205? How am I supposed to look and see? I don't get it. Look at his Instagram account. He's a joint. Are you from LA or what? Yes. Okay. Nice. God bless you. I appreciate you. See, look, I said you all these great men. I followed him. Look at that list right there though. Jaffa, the be the Pac-Man, Cryptmack didn't pick up. Adrian Burnett didn't pick up. Doodaloo was with a woman. But what's the name? The last one looks kind of short on Instagram. That's crazy that you know that because he is short. Yeah. Yeah. But he, that's short. But he's handsome. He's muscular as f***ing. Yeah, he's a good looking guy. He's blazing. I don't mess with the short stuff. Really? Yeah. He's probably taller than you. I'm tall. How tall are you? Five, five, six, five, six. I'm five, six. I think he's a little taller than you. Maybe not with the heels. Maybe five, six. He probably five, six. Maybe not with the heels. Yeah. But he just got out of prison. Oh really? Yeah. That's cool. Yeah. Good man. My type. No, I'm just saying. No, that is your type for sure. Unfortunately. So, okay. Are you, are you still making music? Not really. Just for fun, maybe. Kind of over it. Because you were viral for making music there for a while. Appreciate it. Yeah. Do you make music? I do rap once in a while. Nice. Let me hear some spit song. I'm with Woe Vicki and we're rolling the sticky shit could get tricky and Nikki if you lick me in my butthole. Selena Powell. I might vote for Colin Powell. All right. Next. No, that could actually be good because I can say something about Colin and Colin and. Oh. Yeah. Um, okay. I'm just looking at this guy right now. What are you? Oh, Jab five. Yeah. I'll just. That's what I'm telling you, bro. He's just all right. No, he's a joint. He's a. He, uh, he's like real famous out here. Oh, really? I bet. Yeah. Yeah. The streets love him. He's from like one of the more dangerous gangs out here too. You ever heard the hoovers? Oh, yeah. They get busy. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if they date a white woman, but we could check in a bit. I bet they'd be down. I'm sure he would. Maybe he might have a girl. I don't know. Um, so does Sean Kingston rob your brother? Oh yeah. That's funny. What happened back in the day? I should fall. He got like that before Sean Kingston cut the fraud case with his mom. Exactly. He robbed your brother. How? Um, him and my brother does like crypto and stuff. And, um, they were just chilling. And then I think the part my brother didn't mention is that my brother was probably like cloud chasing and trying to show off, you know? Okay. And so I think Sean Kingston, you know, he, he. At the time, you know, he was going broke and he was just probably trying to get cool. Anybody that, um, has some money or whatever. And then I think like my brother said, like they put up to the, um, strip club, um, to see and it was like, put it under his head and like made him like, um, go get the money. It was like 2000. Really? Yeah. Sean Kingston put a blitz to his head and told him to go get the money. Maybe not to his head, but like he was in the back seat. Okay. Yeah. And your brother just went along with that and did it. Yeah. And he never told her anything. Sean Kingston just got away with us. Yeah. I mean, my brother scammed. So, so he couldn't go rat. Yeah. Damn. I like Sean Kingston. It's a shame to see how he's kind of going out in this whole situation. He was always real cool to me. Yeah. He's cool. God bless him. But, um, was he addicted to the lean, right? That's what I've heard from a million people. And then he was addicted to like scamming lean too. Like he would definitely like find a way to, Oh really? To separate you from your lean and not pay for it. Yeah. Oh yeah. It was crazy too though. Cause like one time I was at this big rap show and he was backstage and he was probably the only rapper or security. And then when I found out how many people he owed money to, I was like, oh, okay. That's why. Now I get it. Yeah. That's why. Definitely. Um, do you ever still kick it with the island boys? No. Why not? Actually, I brought one of them to my church. And did it work? He cussed out my pastor. He did. At church. And then cussed me out at church. But, um, He'll cuss out anybody, huh? Actually though, it was really good cause my pastor prayed for him and like everybody was crying. He was crying. My pastor was crying and it was very powerful. It was, it's online. It's viral. Really? Yeah. When you took him to church, did you tell him like, yo, I think you should stand up in front of the whole church and apologize for making out with your brother and sucking his dick? No. But I feel like that's like a different level of sin. It's like a sin that we never would have even thought of. We have all sinned and finally short of the glory of God. Right. And I've sinned like I stole a Katie bar from seven 11. You don't think your sin was different than when you let your wife smash a guy? No, I think sucking your brother's dick is way worse. I mean, I'll sin is, and then we all need forgiveness. That's what I'm, that's all I'm trying to get at that. We cannot condemn somebody else. We all need forgiveness. Incest plus gay shit plus porn seems worse than like just porn. It's okay. God bless. Yeah, but I don't know. I just feel like they got to do something to get past that. You know, that's like, I don't know. It's like to have a brother, but for sure I'm not topping them off. I'm sorry. I just, I'm not like, no matter how much money's on the line, I can't do it. That's, that's insane. I mean, any family member really, like, I know girls who like have like a twin sister and they bang dudes together, but even they don't do anything gay with each other. Which I think is at least something. Um, okay. So a big part of your whole, uh, movement early on was the fact that you actually said that you were black and you did the 23 and me at one point, right? Are you still sticking with that? Oh, so how did you come to the conclusion that you were black? You're going to do it. Yes. But you, you just believe that you're black or are you kind of past that? Have you done yours? Yeah. You should. Pretty sure. It's not going to say black, but yeah, I'll do it. Yeah. Yeah. You and your daughter have like the same eyes. Yeah. Yeah. Well, mine are like blue and hers are a little greenish. Oh, for real? Yeah. Like you pass on like part of your eye color to your kid, but then they also like get the other parents eye color too. So it ends up being different. Almost always, I think. Really? I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. God is so cool. How he does that. God is so cool. He's so creative. For sure. I was going through your Twitter and I wanted to ask about this comment. You said a man painting his nails is letting us know that he sucks. Why? What is the connection there? I agree. Like there might be a connection, but like why? Right. But I don't a lot of dudes who paint their nails. Six or seven on paints his nails. This is this gay dude who works here. But a playboy, Cardi paints his nails. He used to be so fine. Cardi. He used to be. You don't think he's flying anymore? Fine. He was fine. Fine. Fly. It means the same thing. Why? So he's not, he's not fine anymore. Um, just too satanic. Right. I actually, yeah. For you, I agree. I'm praying for him. He is too satanic for you. I'm praying for him. He's, he, he, yeah. Yeah. But do you think, okay. Someone like him or a little Uzi, do you think that they are really of the devil? Do you think that they just like to wear dark imagery and shit? I think that the devil has a hold of them. I think that when you get to a certain level of fame and status and influence, that you have to make sacrifices with the devil. Have you seen Rick Owens? Yeah. Yeah. But okay. Lil Uzi or Cardi, I've just never heard them really say anything that makes me think that they're actually Satan. Like what? First of all, Lil Uzi's music. Have you seen his concert when he was literally sacrificing people? Have you seen like literally sacrificing people? You mean to tell me that he was killing people on stage? I don't think so. Lil Uzi killed people on stage. First of all, did you not see his concert? He was like, we're all in and I'm going to bring y'all out here with me. I'm going to bring you out. You can't even say help. I mean, well, he was like, I just don't want to like speak that into existence. You know, but. Did Lil Uzi's sacrifice, sacrifice? I think it was, it might have been Travis Scott. Well, okay. A bunch of people died in the crowd at his concert, but that's different than doing it on stage. Let me show you the little Uzi concert I'm talking about. Okay. I would love to see this. Did Lil Uzi sacrifice people on stage? Probably the first person that's ever asked this. Okay. That outfit is egregiously gay though. I will admit that. He's wearing. Right. I think everybody know I'm crazy. And you know what they say about crazy people. You better not get too close to them or they might bite. They're not biting. There's a lot of people that know I bite. So before I bite somebody in this bitch, play that music. Well, okay. He definitely did not sacrifice anybody. He's just dressed hella zesty and he's just talking shit. No, I'm going to find you the place where he was like the hill thing. But wait, the what thing? Like you're not going to find video of him killing someone on stage. It would be like the biggest news story of the year or ever. You know, that's a crazy thing to say at a concert. Y'all are going to hell with me. Yeah. I think it's metaphorical. Well, you took a pictures of that. So we could insert the video into. Yeah. No, but I mean, I think he's just saying like you're going to hell with me. That's like saying go to hell. It doesn't like mean that we're actually going to hell. It's more just some rock and roll shit. Cause that's that's the thing. These guys are into like rock and roll imagery. They're not like actually. It's just your eyes aren't open. But I just feel like if they actually were into Jesus or into Satan, that they would probably like do stuff that indicated that. Whereas everything is like just some rock and roll shit. Like they're always he's wearing a motorhead shirt. He must be a Satanist. It's like, no. Wait, let me show you something. It's just rock and roll shit. They just like are stealing. So I've never seen before and after. I mean, I see him dressing in hella weird. No, yeah. That's it. I think you got to get off to talking. But also going like this is some metalhead shit. It's not some Satanist shit. You really got all these on deck. You don't think that's weird? He's screaming on stage at a concert. I would never go to a concert like that because they're screaming. It was scary. No, I only go to concerts for Jesus. You're going to be really limited in terms of good music. If you only go to Jesus based. I got plenty of good music. I just try to play some for you. Right. Yeah. And that song was an African Jesus hymn, which was really good. I personally probably wouldn't listen to you, but that's okay. I don't want to listen to people screaming about hell. So yeah, no, teach their own teacher. I'm for sure. Okay. Wait, I got a couple more questions before we wrap this up that I wanted to hit. Okay. So, okay. We talked about guys wearing nail polish and how that means they sucked it. Okay. You tweeted. I want to get married so I can have sex. Yeah. Do you really miss sex that much? When was the last time you had sex? Um, the longest I went without sex was four years. Okay. What's your current streak? About that. Four years. Yeah. And are you just in pain? You just want it so bad or is it not that big a deal? Um, I'm getting a little bit older. Yeah. So you care more or less? Um, I don't know. Yeah. You know, sometimes you just want to be like married and have someone that you can like, you know, it hits the worst at night. Being lonely. Yeah. Hmm. Being single. Cause when you, I'm never lonely because when you have God, you are never alone. Right. But I think as human beings, we all do, um, what's the word called, um, desire companionship. Hmm. And is sex part of that? Or it's like you really desire that after not doing it for so long. Um, is that separate from companionship? Well, you have to learn to control your lust before you get married because you don't know how to control your lust before you get married. It will turn into me adultery. Yeah. Cause now I'm 42 and I just can't stop banging. Wow. Jesus can help you with that. You know, I just feel like he's just doesn't even care. He's the only one who can help you with that. Nothing else can work. I feel like Jesus gave up on me a long time ago. No, he don't give up on nobody. As long as you're alive and breathing, you have a chance and he loves everybody. He died for us. What about the other religions? What if I were to become some sort of Muslim? You ain't going to get over your lust. Really? I'll catch you that much. You think the Muslims still have lust? Anyone that's not with Jesus cannot get over their sins. What about if I become a Jew and I rocked a little hat? I just told you. Anyone. That's not going to help either. Definitely not. Damn. The little hat. That's funny. You with a little hat? He said, what if I rocked a little hat? I'm sorry. I mean, I'll rock the little hat. So sure. I've been to temple. I've rocked a little half a little bit. It's not about. It's not about the hat. See, okay. That's Christianity's problem. Islam, Judaism, they got crazy hats. Christians, no hats. Exactly. You'll know them by their fruits. Y'all need to get a hat. I don't really like hats. Right. But I mean, like, if there was like a cool Christian hat, you could just like go to church. I mean, you got like wine and crackers. That's pretty good. I will. You ever actually done that? Yeah. You ate the crackers and drank the wine. Yeah. You didn't feel like a little white girl wasted after drink the wine? No, I don't like wine. My mom's in rehab right now. Yeah. How long is she going to be? She's been in and out my whole life. Oh, shit. Yeah. What's her main vice? Alcohol? Obviously. Well, there's other shit too, right? Oh, okay. Yes, just that. Yeah. Shouldn't do like coke and. No, just alcohol. No. Okay. Um, okay. Uh, you also, this, this was an amazing tweet. You said Michael Jackson is gone. Prince is gone. Madonna is still here. Lil Tay is gone. Bad baby is gone. Whoa, Vicki. I'm still here. Yeah. Do you feel like you survived? You outlived a lot of these people in particular, Michael Jackson in particular. I want to see the movie. Me too. Yeah. I might go tomorrow. Period. Um, but what I'm trying to find. Maybe you can call one of your friends. I can take him out on a date to go see it. Oh, well, his name is Moose Man. I don't know. I gotta see what he look like. He's a big, fat Mexican man. But he's got swag. He looks like that Mexican O.T. I don't really, I like guys that are in shape. He's strong. I don't really care for fat. You're more just against body fat. No, I think you and Lusher are the, the couple that I would be trying to make happen, but you said Lil Tay is gone, which is not technically true. She's still out there on social media and then bad baby. She's still out here. She's still viral as hell. Yeah, she is. Right. So you meant like they're gone just in like more of a general sense. I guess so. Yeah. For sure. Um, but what do you think about Lil Tay making the only fans on her 18th birthday? She did. She got me blocked. She did. Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of big news that she like, I think released that content right away on her 18th. Birthday, which is pretty crazy. I'm not surprised. Because that means that if she made the content before then, what type of kind of shambles on porn did she, that's a good point. Yeah. I didn't see what she actually posted. But I'm assuming it probably wasn't naked. But yeah, definitely not. Either way, if she posted it right when she turned 18, her brother's a good marketer. Do you turn 18, take the photos, then put it out? Oh, I go with you saying, I don't know. I think my little, the same thing though. She was a big deal back in the day. What happened to her? I never hear about her anymore. She's, she's in Miami. When Flocko first came here, he would not shut up about her. Who's Flocko? Flocko is a YouTuber, a poetic Flocko. And he, he used to talk about how that was his dream girl. Yeah. Really? Yeah. I don't know what happened to that. I think he says he only likes black girls now. Okay. So what are your thoughts on, okay. So I don't know if you keep up on the news, but Gucci main. Oh yeah. Pusha, I see ran down on Gucci main and robbed him and made him sign a contract, letting him out of his record deal. Yeah. And then Gucci main allegedly told the police, what are your thoughts? I feel, I feel, I feel pusha. I feel them. You thought about doing that to somebody who had you in a contract or what? It'd be like that though. Like maybe trying to give you in these messed up contracts. Who has previously had you in a contract? Nobody. Thanks God. But I can see where like they tried to get me before and I would see where it's like, what you mean you ain't going to let me out. What you mean you scamming me like, and especially like if you come from that lifestyle, it's like, Oh no, put the blick to their head. Yeah. So you thought about while and out or no. Um, I don't know. I'm not like a gangster and stuff. I feel like you used to be. Maybe. But what do you think about Gucci main talent? Do you think it's fair? Cause he's old or you think it's kind of because he's been telling us he's a gangster all these years. Well, somebody kind of said that's like, he is older. He has a wife. He has a kid. Right. I don't see him again. I don't know. Gucci. Yeah. And it's like, you know, he's been doing this for a while. Why would he want to go back to, well, would he, he wouldn't go to Jeff. And he got robbed. No. Oh yeah. But it would have probably been difficult with the whole insurance thing. And you know, okay. So I guess he was just being illegal and smart. Yeah. I mean, I understand it, but then also like, what were you talking about on all these records all those years, telling us you're so gangster, like, like, I don't personally give a fuck cause I'm not a street dude, but like. Seems like a huge part of his core audience of the exact people who care about this kind of thing. Right. We all got to grow up since some day. Real talk, but would you still collaborate with Gucci main or you feel like he's, he ruined that opportunity? I probably would. I would have rather clad with push ice. They have a Gucci main though. He's got that jit energy. Why N energy? Yeah. Okay. How you know? Yeah. I mean, for sure he does, but you like dudes like that. Hot boys who are down to just put a blick in their ops face and just take their fucking wedding ring, right? Next question. You like bad boys. Unfortunately. That's a problem. You're trying to get over that. Yeah. I hear it. Um, all right. Favorite current female rapper. Hmm. None. You don't like any of them? I like money service. Not really a rapper, but a little bit rap adjacent. I don't like, I don't really like rap. Really? I like Gucci main's old music. It's soldier boy. Well, Taylor Swift. Do not like her at all. Why? She, um, is a witch. She's a witch. Yeah. You know, she said she wipes the her period blood with the Bible. Taylor Swift said that. Yeah. I did not believe you. All right. Can look it up. You want me to look at it? Okay. I will gladly look at it. It was in her Beyonce. Different people. Did Taylor Swift. But that's what definitely a witch though. She, yeah. Wipe her period with the Bible. Just the idea of Taylor Swift saying that is so amazing. See, see, see, see. Are you guys in chat? Do we see? Shout out to all my Swifties out there. Ask if Beyonce said it. No, that is not something Taylor Swift has ever said. I feel like you fall for a lot of TikTok misinformation. No, I don't. Did Beyonce or any other famous singer say that? Beyonce said it. I know she did. There's this really doesn't sound like the kind of thing that Beyonce would say either. Yeah. Oh. Yeah. Oh, oh. Okay. Well, there is something sort of like what you're describing in Beyonce's lemonade film. There's a line of spoken word imagery in which she said, plugged my men's is with pages from the Holy Book. Her men's is. Is that her like awkwardly pluralizing men? Men's cycle. Men's is. With pages or like plugged my men's is with pages from the Holy Book. Like I gave the Bible to people. Anyways, it's hard to money. I'm pretty sure she's like a Christian, right? Or definitely not. Definitely not. Yeah. And the line is clearly poetic and metaphorical. And yeah, we're praying for internet posts and TikToks, strip it out of context and turn it into a shock claim that she used the Bible as a tampon. God bless them all. I feel like you got to get off. So you're getting bamboozled on a day to day basis. Taylor Swift is a witch. Taylor Swift. I don't believe that there's any reason to think that she's a Christian, but she's an amazing songwriter. And maybe if she would talk about, I don't know, I just pray they all give their life to Jesus. I don't really. I feel like as one of the most important living white women, you need to become a Swifty. Me, I'm the most important living white woman. You're up there. Period. You broke doors down. Thanks God. Yeah, for sure. Hallelujah. You know what's the best Taylor Swift song? Don't really care. Christmas tree farm. Anyway, what about ice? Ice spice getting slapped at McDonald's in Hollywood. Were you surprised to see her moving around without a security guard or anything? No, and she was in Hollywood. So Hollywood's pretty ghetto. It is. But why was she at McDonald's? Ew. Probably just like that's the number one thing that she wants to eat in life. She's a hood bitch from the Bronx. God bless her. Yeah. But I did see some people saying that she needs to keep a little Tim style figure around. If you don't remember, little Tim was like a Cuando Rondo's friend that killed King Vaughn because King Vaughn walked up and punched Cuando Rondo in the face. I feel like you could be that for ice spice. I feel like you could be her shooter. No. What if you just like be bitches up? You don't have to like. I don't fight. I just wear love. So you weren't, you wouldn't do any drilling for ice spice to be part of her clique. You know, you, you are, what you put out there is what you're going to get back. So, you know, when you're putting negative stuff out there, that's negative. So it's going to come back to you. But what if you're defending your famous friend? I'm not going to risk my life for somebody else. It's a job though. I don't want to add job. What if you were? I'm already having enough to worry about on my own. Yeah. I think also you're too famous. Yeah. Exactly. Like that's why a little Tim was good at his job is because he wasn't like the star of the show. So he was able to just be in the cut with the Blake just ready to pop. Exactly. Exactly. Best in Beast King Vaughn, obviously, but yeah. Um, okay. What's your current like, what's the number one way that you make money? Just doing my best. What does that mean in terms of making money though? If you have any, any brands I want to collab or anything, just let me know. Oh, really? But no, no porn and stuff. Right. Cause you used to have only fans, right? No. Never? No. Never made one. No. You don't have any similar service under a different name or anything. No. Okay. Respect. Thank you. That probably took a lot of self-control over the years. God bless. For sure. Um, okay. What do you want the people out there to know about in terms of what you've got coming? Um, probably like some clothes, like a makeup. Nice. You were trying to start a makeup line. Yeah. I call it whoa. Like that name? I actually do like that. Period. That's a smart idea. Thanks. Yeah. What about you? Um, no more porn. No more makeup. I'm not making makeup, but yeah, definitely going to keep doing porn. Probably have a few more kids. A few more kids. What if your kids see that? Yeah, whatever. Really? I mean, have you ever made Kim Kardashian? I've been close to her, but I didn't actually say hi or anything. Yeah. How do you like LA? You don't like Miami better? I like it better out here. Yeah. I like it out there because whenever I'm out there, I can like go out to the clubs and stay out late and like, I have like a fake made, make-believe life out there. And then I come back here and I'm like going to bed early and be scared of planes. No. I love Miami. I love your Tourette style delivery where you just asked me like blurt out questions. Are you scared of planes? That's fine. Um, okay. Next time I'm in Miami though, we should hang out. Okay. I hit me up. Yeah. I won't do any like devil stuff around you or anything like that. Well, I wouldn't go to church. See, I don't know if I should go to church. Why not? Is IMG of God? Oh, well, we, that's what she's wearing for the record. Um, yeah. Well, there's, there's other things we can do in Miami. Like, um, yeah. Well, I bet I'll see you in Miami for sure. God bless. We need to make a version of the IMG as shit, but we're going to call it. Whoa. I am Jesus. No, that's kind of evil. No, that is evil. Yeah. Just Jesus, just Jesus. I am Godly. Okay. Do a parody style version and sell us all the chicks at church. Okay. They'll probably do it. They'll be into it. Yeah. Oh, we got a million dollar plan now. Per year. That's a million dollar plan. What do you say to the people in the chat who say that they want to see your toes? Um, I do have pretty feet, but they can't see them unless they marry you. That's just weird. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Sorry guys. No toes, no feet, no nothing. 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