Global News Podcast

Trump says US in 'very strong position' for Iran talks

25 min
Apr 21, 20267 days ago
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Summary

This BBC Global News Podcast episode covers President Trump's optimistic stance on Iran negotiations as a ceasefire deadline approaches, the political fallout in the UK over Peter Mandelson's appointment despite vetting failures, and diverse stories including a tiger escape at a Russian circus, cocaine's effects on salmon behavior, Japan's shift away from pacifism through weapons exports, and an innovative archery program helping breast cancer survivors manage lymphedema symptoms.

Insights
  • US-Iran negotiations face significant structural obstacles with only hours to reach agreement on substantive issues like uranium enrichment and strait control, despite Trump's public optimism masking diplomatic distance
  • UK political leadership credibility is undermined when officials become scapegoats for decisions made at the highest levels, with evidence suggesting pressure to expedite appointments over proper security vetting
  • Geopolitical shifts are driving countries like Japan to abandon decades-old pacifist policies, with public opinion lagging behind government action on constitutional changes
  • Pharmaceutical waste in waterways has measurable ecological impacts on wildlife behavior and energy consumption, with implications for food chains and ecosystem dynamics
  • Non-traditional therapeutic approaches like archery can address chronic post-treatment conditions by leveraging biomechanical benefits rather than pharmaceutical interventions
Trends
Erosion of post-WWII pacifist principles in Asia-Pacific region driven by China and Russia regional tensionsPharmaceutical and drug residues in aquatic ecosystems emerging as understudied environmental health concernTherapeutic sports and movement-based rehabilitation gaining clinical validation for cancer survivorship managementPolitical accountability frameworks weakening as leaders delegate responsibility for high-stakes appointmentsCompressed diplomatic timelines creating negotiation pressure in high-stakes international conflictsWildlife safety incidents at entertainment venues prompting stricter animal welfare regulations globallyWastewater analysis becoming standard epidemiological tool for tracking drug use patterns in populations
Topics
US-Iran Nuclear NegotiationsIran Sanctions and Oil Blockade EnforcementUK Political Accountability and Vetting ProcessesPeter Mandelson Appointment ControversyJapan Constitutional Reform and Weapons ExportsChina-Japan Regional Military TensionsPharmaceutical Contamination in Aquatic EcosystemsCocaine Effects on Fish BehaviorLymphedema Management in Cancer SurvivorsArchery as Therapeutic RehabilitationCircus Animal Welfare and SafetyMexico Tourism Security and FIFA World CupTeotihuacan Archaeological Site AttackDrug Residue Wastewater TestingConstitutional Pacifism and Militarization
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Swedish University of Agricultural Science
Research institution conducting study on cocaine effects on salmon behavior in Lake Vatten
Virgin de la Casa de Lorca Hospital
Spanish hospital where physiotherapist Marta Moreno treats breast cancer survivors in archery program
People
Donald Trump
Expressed optimism about US negotiating position with Iran despite substantive disagreements
Gary O'Donoghue
Analyzed Trump's Iran negotiation strategy and Iranian regime resilience to military pressure
Keir Starmer
Faced parliamentary scrutiny over Peter Mandelson appointment and vetting process failures
Peter Mandelson
Appointed despite vetting failures related to Jeffrey Epstein connections and business ties
Rob Watson
Reported on parliamentary testimony revealing dismissive vetting attitude from Downing Street
Kurumi Mori
Analyzed Japan's shift away from pacifism through weapons export rule changes and constitutional revision
Yoko Takaichi
Initiated scrapping of weapons export rules and openly discussed revising Article 9 of Constitution
Dr Jack Brand
Conducted experimental study implanting cocaine in salmon to measure behavioral and ecological effects
Will Grant
Reported on shooting at Teotihuacan archaeological site and security concerns for FIFA World Cup
Joanna Keane
Covered tiger escape incident at Russian circus and broader animal welfare issues in circuses
Ana Cano
Founded Pink Arrows archery program for breast cancer survivors after seeing Madrid hospital results
Marta Moreno
Explained biomechanical mechanism of how archery vibration helps drain lymph fluid in cancer survivors
Claire Bates
Reported on Pink Arrows archery program in southern Spain helping breast cancer survivors manage lymphedema
Celia Hatton
Presented Global News Podcast episode covering international news stories
Quotes
"We're going to end up with a great deal. I think they have no choice. We've taken out their Navy. We've taken out their Air Force. We've taken out their leaders."
President TrumpIran negotiations segment
"It is regime change, no matter what you want to call it. Our chief North America correspondent is Gary O'Donoghue."
President TrumpIran negotiations segment
"I'm afraid what that translated into for my team in the Foreign Office was what I felt was a generally dismissive attitude to his vetting clearance."
Senior UK civil servantMandelson vetting controversy
"So when the arrow is fired by the archer's bow, there's a vibration in the upper limb that also helps to drain lymph fluid through the lymphatic system."
Marta Moreno, PhysiotherapistArchery therapy segment
"When you first pull the string, of course your arm hurts because of the surgery. It was hard for me to do, but day by day my arm got stronger and it's not as inflamed as it was at the start."
Marie Huertas, cancer survivorArchery therapy segment
Full Transcript
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Also in this podcast, chaos at a circus in Russia as a tiger escapes from the arena and a scientific study that involved feeding cocaine to fish. We gave them either implants containing cocaine and a control implant which had no drugs and that gave us a real experimental precision in determining how these drugs actually affect fish behavior in the wild. We'll tell you what the researchers discovered. The ceasefire between the U.S. and Iran is set to end on Wednesday. And as we've been reporting in previous podcasts, we still don't know for certain whether talks in Pakistan between Iran and the U.S. will actually go ahead in Islamabad. As we record this edition, neither the American nor the Iranian negotiators have left their respective countries to travel to Islamabad. In a phone interview with the U.S. news network CNBC on Tuesday morning, President Trump still sounded optimistic about finding a solution. We're going to end up with a great deal. I think they have no choice. We've taken out their Navy. We've taken out their Air Force. We've taken out their leaders, frankly, which does complicate things in one way, but these leaders are much more rational. It is regime change, no matter what you want to call it. Our chief North America correspondent is Gary O'Donoghue. Matthew Ramraliwala asked him what he thought about President Trump's latest remarks. He's expecting to be able to sort of bounce the Iranians really into going to Islamabad. I mean, J.D. Vance was going to go, then wasn't, and now seems to be preparing to go today. And of course, we've had the actual deadline for the ceasefire. I mean, this has been glossed over slightly, but the deadline for the ceasefire was meant to be today. The 7th was two weeks ago. The end of the 7th, two weeks' time is the end of today. That's been pushed back till 8 o'clock on Wednesday evening. That's US time. And so they will have very few hours, if they do actually get there together, to hammer something out. And I would caution against expecting, as you do in most of these kinds of negotiations in normal times, that, you know, the detail is all sorted out and they go there to sign things. I don't think they're anywhere near one another at the moment in terms of agreements. We know there's an absolute sticking point on Iran's wish to have control over the straits. It's been exercising that control despite the American blockade and their wish to continue to enrich uranium. They say for peaceful purposes and the Americans say they want to get a bomb. So there are some hugely substantive issues here. This is not dotting of I's and crossing of T's. And how that is going to get achieved in a few short hours in Islamabad seems to be an extraordinary lift. And all the while, there's almost a twin strategy, isn't there? There's the diplomatic strategy and there's the preparations for a resumption of the military one. And the constant in terms of the thinking from the Pentagon has been one more push will change behaviour. But they've been wrong to date on that, haven't they? Yeah, I mean, it's absolutely clear that Iran is prepared to take a lot of pain, has taken a lot of pain, is prepared to take more. Now, that's a sign, perhaps, of an autocratic regime that doesn't care very much about the pain that its civilian population suffers in times like this, that its prime motivation, perhaps, is survival. And it has survived, despite what the president says. It is still the Islamic Republic. You know, and it still has the head of it, the son of the man that the Americans killed on day one or the Israelis killed on day one. So, you know, this is something that is frustrating, I think, to the president. He simply doesn't understand how they don't just give in to this overwhelming military force. And the truth is that, you know, in Iran, there's a belief that this is a civilization that's been around for 3000 years. and that a few weeks of bombing from even the world's most powerful country doesn't necessarily change all that. Having said all that, of course, they do need to get their exports going, their oil exports going again. We've seen that one tanker has just been seized, according to the Pentagon, somewhere off Sri Lanka that was connected to Iranian oil. So this enforcement of the blockade is a real problem for Iran. And it's not just an enforcement of the ports around the strait. and indeed their oil terminals, Carg Island and all these sorts of things. It's an enforcement worldwide that the Americans have promised to take on and hence why you see this tanker in the Indian Ocean being taken. Gary O'Donoghue. Here in the UK, the political fallout continues from the scandal over the late pedophile Jeffrey Epstein. The Prime Minister, Keir Starmer, has faced huge criticism over his decision to hire Peter Mandelson a veteran politician who had close ties with Epstein to serve as the UK ambassador to Washington a key position Mr Mandelson was fired from his job in September Yesterday, we reported on a very uncomfortable day for the Prime Minister, Keir Starmer, as he explained to the UK's Parliament why Mr. Mandelson got the job, despite failing to get through the vetting process. And today, a parliamentary committee has been questioning a senior civil servant who was sacked for not telling the Prime Minister about that vetting failure. I heard more from our UK political correspondent, Rob Watson. It is a complicated tale, but much of it is quite simple. And essentially, that civil servant who, if you like, Keir Starmer had made a scapegoat for hiring Peter Mandelson, or at least not knowing about the risks, has been testifying and essentially hitting back. And much of his testimony was about the complex issue of the vetting process to senior positions. But actually, at the heart of his evidence, Celia, was the deeply damaging allegation against Keir Starmer that the Prime Minister had known all along about the risks in appointing Mandelson, because his friendship with Jeffrey Epstein and business ties on Russia and China were all well known. And yet, Mr. Robbins said, when he arrived to be the senior official at the Foreign Office in January 2025, all the pressure from Downing Street wasn't on security checks, but on getting Mr. Mandelson to Washington sooner rather than later. I'm afraid I walked into a situation in which there was already a very, very strong expectation coming from number 10 that he needed to be in post and in America as quickly as humanly possible. The very first formal communication of this to my predecessor, being that they wanted all this done at pace and Mandelson in post before inauguration. So I'm afraid what that translated into for my team in the Foreign Office was what I felt was a generally dismissive attitude to his vetting clearance. So, Rob, how dangerous is this for the Prime Minister, Keir Starmer? Well, it's dangerous in that it undermines the defence that he gave during a two and a half hour truly bruising session to MPs on Monday, as he was suggesting, in which he basically said, look, not my fault. You know, if I'd shown this vetting stuff, I never would have gone ahead with the appointments. It really undermines that. But it goes to something else, which is a danger for Keir Starmer about his judgment, his style of leadership, and this idea that he'd always promised that if he became prime minister, he would always take the can if anything went wrong. Well, now he looks like he's been doing what other prime ministers have been accused of doing, which is getting somebody else to be the fall guy. Rob, what's been the British public's reaction to all of this back and forth? Are they following along? I think they're following in the sense that's bad for Keir Starmer, that it reminds them that Peter Mandelson is back in the news. And that is bad for the prime minister because it reflects on his judgment in appointing him in the first place. It's bad because the voters are reminded that Sir Keir Starmer had promised no drama. Starmer, well, there's been plenty of drama. And it reminds them, of course, that he said he'd take the blame for stuff. And as the public see it, he doesn't. Our UK political correspondent, Rob Watson. For a deeper dive on this, because it's an incredibly complex story, you can head to our YouTube channel. Search for BBC News on YouTube, and you'll find the Global News podcast in the podcast section. There's a news story available every weekday. The Mexican authorities say they've identified a man who carried out a deadly attack on a group of tourists at a major archaeological site before killing himself. Prosecutors say the man, whom they named as Julio Cesar Hasso Ramirez, was a Mexican citizen. Security officials say the attack at Teotihuacan Pyramid Complex was not spontaneous, although the precise motivation is unclear. An unnamed Canadian woman was killed, and at least 13 other tourists were injured, including a six-year-old child. The UNESCO World Heritage Site is one of Mexico's top tourist attractions, and this shooting reignites worries about safety and security with floods of tourists soon to arrive this summer for the FIFA World Cup, as Will Grant reports. The incident at the pre-Columbian archaeological site couldn't have come at a worse time for President Claudia Sheinbaum's administration. Teotihuacan is one of Mexico's most popular tourist destinations, and the shooting happened with just weeks to go until Mexico co-hosts the FIFA World Cup. Earlier this year, the Mexican government was forced to reassure people that security will not be an issue during the tournament after gunmen from the Jalisco New Generation cartel terrorised numerous cities by burning barricades and setting fire to cars following the killing of the group's leader Nemesio Oseguera, also known as El Mencho. This latest incident appears to have no link to drug violence. The victim was a Canadian tourist shot by a man who opened fire from the site's iconic Pyramid of the Moon. The gunman then apparently took his own life. Several more victims, citizens from Colombia, Russia and Canada, were injured and are being treated in hospital. Despite the widespread cartel violence in Mexico, such incidents involving tourists are rare. President Sheinbaum said that she felt deep pain over the shooting at what is a UNESCO World Heritage site and expressed her most sincere solidarity with the affected individuals and their families. The opening game of the World Cup will be held in Mexico City on the 11th of June between Mexico and South Africa. Will Grant. For years now, scientists around the world have been testing wastewater to get a picture of how common illegal drug use is in society. But the fact that drugs pass through our bodies and into water systems also has consequences for the plants and animals that live there. A new study is shedding more light on this, particularly around cocaine and salmon. Our reporter Will Chalk has the story. The calming, crystal clear waters of Lake Vatten in Sweden. It contains a mind-boggling array of marine life but it's also been home to some fish that are considerably more active than they should be. Scientists have known for a while now that the drugs humans take and pass on can end up being ingested by marine life but researchers at the Swedish University of Agricultural Science wanted to find out more about how it affects that life. They knew the limitations of lab-based work so decided to take an extremely hands-on approach. I spoke to one of the scientists, Dr Jack Brand. You gave cocaine essentially to a salmon? Yes, that's right. So we gave them either implants containing cocaine its main metabolite which I can never pronounce I not going to try and a control implant which had no drugs And that gave us a real experimental precision in determining how these drugs actually affect fish behaviour in the wild. Those fish were then tracked, and it turned out that the ones implanted with cocaine and its main breakdown product swam further and dispersed more widely across the lake. So, largely what you would expect. But it's also concerning. because of what it tells us about the impact of our waste on the wildlife around us. In the animal kingdom, sort of movement is fundamental. You know, where fish are determines what they eat, what eats them, what habitats they occupy. So it could have sort of profound implications for their ecology and evolution. It also affects things like energy budgets. So things like energy budgets are fairly fine-tuned in wild animals. You know, the energy expend has to be offset by the energy you bring in. And so in this case, an almost doubling of their movement rates is undoubtedly going to increase their energy consumption, which has to come from somewhere. Waterways are incredibly complex and diverse places, and the waste products humans pump into them are equally myriad. This is just one tiny slice of that. But it's hoped it'll increase the understanding of exactly how one impacts the other and what can be done to reduce the harm to wildlife. Wiltshark. Still to come in this podcast, the fitness solution that's helping breast cancer survivors in Spain. So when the arrow is fired by the archer's bow, there's a vibration in the upper limb that also helps to drain lymph fluid through the lymphatic system. Droom je van je eigen merk? Shopify is het platform achter miljoenen bedrijven. With Shopify, you can use a professional website that fits your style. You can start hundreds of templates and start your own design studio in no time. Thanks to the slimmer AI tools, you write perfect text and you can see the photos of your products. And while you buy, you sell Shopify the rest. From the service and the international service to return. Will you grow? Start for 1 euro per month and begin today via Shopify. Starting a business can be overwhelming. You're juggling multiple roles, designer, marketer, logistics manager, all while bringing your vision to life. Shopify helps millions of business sell online. Build fast with templates and AI descriptions and photos, inventory and shipping. Sign up for your one euro per month trial and start selling today at Shopify.nl. That's Shopify.nl. It's time to see what you can accomplish with Shopify by your side. This is the Global News Podcast. Let's focus on a big story in Japan now. Tokyo says it will scrap the weapons export rules it's had in place since the end of the Second World War so it can sell lethal arms to its allies. It's the latest step away from the pacifist principles which the country adopted at the end of that war. Japan's regional rival, China, has responded angrily, saying it will resist what it calls Japan's reckless militarization. I got more from our Tokyo correspondent, Kurumi Mori. Japan isn't like other countries when it comes to this. After World War II, after the atomic bombs that Japan experienced, after everything, Japan essentially wrote pacifism into its DNA. It's been part of the country's identity. It went into the Constitution in 1947. So it was no war, no weapons exports, no military aggression. And for the past eight decades, I mean, that has largely stuck. What they were allowed to export were things like radar, rescue equipment, the stuff that helps you spot danger. But it doesn't really help you fight it. And all of that really ends now with the new rules. What makes it even bigger is that Prime Minister Takaichi has openly been talking about revising Article 9 of the Constitution, which is a clause that renounces war. So when we're talking about why this matters, it's not just about the weapons. It's kind of about this huge shift, a really big significant shift that we're seeing about what kind of a country Japan is going to become. So you say it's been part of its DNA, part of its identity. So why make this change now to begin selling lethal weapons to other countries after such a long time? And what do Japanese people think about all this? Yeah, I mean, I think we can really start looking at 2014 as kind of the beginnings of the old rules kind of chipping away. So even though it's been ingrained in the DNA for 80 years, we have seen signs of the LDP trying to shift away from it. So when Shinzo Abe first in 2014 started to relax some of the rules, Kishida in 2023 pushed further in trying to kind of increase defense spending. Takaichi, our current prime minister, has now gone the furthest. The reason why it's happening right now comes really down to geopolitics and what's happening to the rest of the world, right? I mean, we have on one hand, Japan, when you look at a map, we're surrounded by China, Russia, North Korea. I mean, we see them as threatening. We also have the war in Iran, of course, the U.S. potentially. I mean, we're looking at them maybe not being as dependent as maybe they once were. I mean, the government's old rules are belonging now to a different new world. I just want to say also the Japanese public isn't necessarily fully on board. We saw a poll out this week that shows 49 percent oppose any changes to the Constitution. About 40 percent support them in the latest, according to Yomi Yurishinbun. So the government is moving faster maybe than its own people are comfortable with. And that's why we're now seeing protests happen nationwide. Our Tokyo correspondent Kurumi Mori. A story from Russia is getting a lot of attention in various places online. They're all tracking the moment in the Russian city of Rostov-on-Don that a tiger that had been performing inside a circus ring suddenly leapt into the crowd. Our global affairs reporter Joanna Keane told me more. Well, a terrifying moment at the circus has been circulating on social media. In the video, we can see several tigers. They're performing on stage. They're sat on individual stools. Suddenly, the barrier separating them from the crowd collapses. So we could also hear in the video the screams there as one of the tigers calmly climbs into the audience Some people very sensibly grab their belongings and leave Others look on as this tiger fortunately heads to an empty row of seats at the back of the tent In the video, a trainer can be seen following the tiger. We don't see this, but reports say he managed to steer it through an exit and into a secure container outside. Now, no injuries amazingly have been reported, but investigation into safety violations is underway. Well, that's an incredible story. And the video itself is pretty scary. Joanna, have there been other incidents like this? Similar ones. So in Russia, in 2020, two elephants were just found playing in the snow. They'd escaped from their enclosure. In another incident, a brown bear had to be immobilized with an electric shock. It had attacked its trainer while it was being pushed in a wheelbarrow. There have been incidents in other countries as well. In southwest Germany 11 years ago, a man was taking his regular morning walk. He was killed by an elephant which had escaped from the circus. Also in France, a couple of years later in 2017, an 18-month-old tiger was shot dead in Paris after escaping from a circus. Animal welfare groups say circus animals, you know, we're talking about tigers, zebras, sea lions, they're exposed to massive pressure. They're constantly having to move from place to place, enduring exhausting journeys and often miserable conditions as well, cramped cages and enclosures. Now, stricter welfare laws do mean that captive animals are now banned from circuses in a growing list of countries. But others, including Russia, still allow them to perform on a regular basis. Joanna Keane. And we'll end with some health news last. Breast cancer treatment often saves lives, but it can also cause long-term health issues, including painfully swollen arms and ongoing fatigue. However, in Spain, a group of women are targeting their symptoms with the help of archery. Ranging from their 20s to their 60s, the women say they've seen encouraging improvements. Claire Bates reports from southern Spain. on the outskirts of a small town called Tatana in southern Spain a group of women are dressed as if for battle lined up in matching uniforms each has a quiver of arrows slung over her hip and a bow in her hand so there's eight women all in a row and they've each shot about five or six arrows each and I must say most of them have hit the yellow target. The group is called the Pink Arrows. The members are different ages and from different backgrounds but they have some important things in common. They've all had breast cancer and they're all living with the after effects of treatment. During a break I chat to Anna Bellen who is 45. I have small children at home. Here I can disconnect and talk to people who have gone through the same thing as me, which is often not the case with the family. It's very good because it allows me to let go. But there's another quite unexpected benefit to archery. Ten years ago, a hospital in Madrid tried using the sport as a rehab exercise for patients following breast cancer. Doctors were surprised to find it didn't just improve flexibility, but also improve lymphedema symptoms. Lymphedema is a long-term condition, which causes painful swelling in the arms and hands. It affects around one in five breast cancer patients. The project was featured on Spanish TV, where the news reached Ana Cano, a champion archer. She helped set up the pink arrows in her area. We didn't know about how to do it. We just started. We had to find the way the guys should. So even we put the target in the ground, but they shoot many arrows. Finally, they can lift the arm. Ana says it's helped many of her students to manage their symptoms. One of them is Marie Huertas. She developed lymphedema following six surgeries to remove cancer and reconstruct her breast. When the arm swells, it hurts and it weighs a lot. It stops you doing things and you feel that the arm is useless, really. Was it difficult to pull the bow? Yes. When you first pull the string, of course your arm hurts because of the surgery. It was hard for me to do, but day by day my arm got stronger and it's not as inflamed as it was at the start. It has already reduced quite a lot. I went to see physio Marta Moreno to find out why archery was having such a big effect. She works at Virgin de la Casa de Lorca Hospital and has treated a lot of the women in the pink arrows. So when the arrow is fired by the archer's bow, there's a vibration in the upper limb that also helps to drain lymph fluid through the lymphatic system. When someone draws and releases a bow, they contract and relax various muscles, which acts as a pump that improves the flow of lymph fluid. And while not conclusively proven, and it's widely thought the vibration of the strings helps with this process. I've seen cases where the swelling has reduced and the lymphedema has even stabilized. The patients notice it a lot in their day-to-day lives, especially when they work with their arms. They find they have a lot more freedom. Claire Bates reporting from southern Spain. And for more on this innovative archery project, Search for People Fixing the World, wherever you get your podcasts. And that's all from us for now. If you want to get in touch, you can email us at globalpodcast at bbc.co.uk. You can also find us on X at BBC World Service. Use the hashtag Global News Pod. And don't forget our sister podcast, The Global Story, which goes in-depth and beyond the headlines on one big story. This edition of The Global News Podcast was mixed by Chris Cazares, and the producer was Will Chalk. The editor is Karen Martin. I'm Celia Hatton. Until next time, goodbye. 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