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#3216 RHOBH S15E09 Part Two: Hamptons Manifesto

40 min
Feb 13, 20262 months ago
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Summary

Watch What Crappens recaps RHOBH S15E09 Part Two, covering Amanda's failed manifestation party where she promotes her self-help book while the other ladies mock her approach, and a parallel Hamptons trip where Rachel Zoe mentors Kyle and Dorit while Dorit discusses her deteriorating marriage with PK.

Insights
  • Self-help and manifestation content faces credibility challenges when promoted by wealthy individuals to peers who have already achieved financial success, making the messaging feel inauthentic and transactional.
  • Conflict avoidance and deflection (blaming others rather than owning behavior) escalates interpersonal drama in group settings, as demonstrated by Amanda's repeated victim positioning instead of direct accountability.
  • Generational and lifestyle gaps between cast members (millennial vs Gen X, self-made vs inherited wealth) create friction around authenticity and values, particularly around aspirational content and personal branding.
  • Male insecurity and resentment in relationships where wives have greater fame or financial success is a recurring pattern that destabilizes marriages and creates secondary conflict within friend groups.
  • Reality TV editing and selective trip invitations are used strategically to create tension and separate cast members into 'A-team' and 'B-team' storylines, amplifying perceived slights and jealousy.
Trends
Wellness and manifestation content saturation: Self-help monetization faces skepticism when practitioners lack authenticity or when audiences perceive the advice as inapplicable to their circumstances.Influencer credibility erosion: Personal brand extensions (books, workshops, merchandise) can backfire if not aligned with audience perception of the creator's expertise or relatability.Marital conflict as narrative driver: Reality TV increasingly focuses on relationship deterioration and divorce proceedings as primary storylines, replacing traditional friendship drama.Performative feminism and accountability gaps: Cast members use victim narratives and emotional deflection to avoid responsibility, signaling a broader cultural pattern of selective accountability.Wealth-based social stratification within peer groups: Even among wealthy individuals, perceived status differences (old money vs new money, inherited vs self-made) create hierarchies and exclusion dynamics.Male ego and partnership dynamics: Husbands resenting wives' professional success and public visibility is becoming a normalized subplot, reflecting broader cultural tensions around gender roles in high-net-worth relationships.Selective transparency in mediation: Legal and financial redaction in divorce proceedings creates information asymmetries that prolong conflict and prevent resolution.Mentorship as status signaling: Access to established industry figures (fashion designers, celebrities) is used as social currency and validation within peer groups.
Topics
Self-help book marketing and monetizationManifestation workshops and personal developmentDivorce proceedings and custody negotiationsMarital conflict and relationship deteriorationWealth disparity and social hierarchyAccountability and conflict resolutionFashion industry mentorship and accessReality TV editing and narrative constructionPersonal branding and influencer credibilityMale insecurity in high-net-worth relationshipsFinancial redaction in legal proceedingsGenerational differences in values and authenticityVictim positioning and emotional deflectionGroup dynamics and social exclusionHamptons lifestyle and aspirational travel
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Erica Jane
RHOBH cast member discussing new boyfriend, attending Amanda's manifestation party, critiquing self-help content.
Amanda Francis
RHOBH cast member hosting manifestation workshop party, promoting self-published book 'Money, Be a Bitch and Manifest'.
Dorit Kemsley
RHOBH cast member on Hamptons trip, discussing deteriorating marriage with PK and custody/mediation issues.
Kyle Richards
RHOBH cast member on Hamptons trip with Rachel Zoe, discussing relationship with Mauricio and Dorit's marriage.
Rachel Zoe
Fashion industry figure mentoring Kyle and Dorit in Hamptons, discussing male insecurity patterns in relationships.
Sutton Stracke
RHOBH cast member at manifestation party, confronting Amanda about accountability and victim positioning.
Kathy Hilton
RHOBH cast member at manifestation party, observing drama and offering commentary on conflict resolution.
Boz
RHOBH cast member questioning Amanda's manifestation workshop ROI and critiquing self-help monetization.
PK Kemsley
Dorit's husband, subject of discussion regarding marriage deterioration, gambling losses, and custody disputes.
Mauricio Umansky
Kyle's husband, attempted mediation with Dorit and PK regarding their marital conflict.
Donna Karan
Fashion designer encountered by Kyle and Dorit in Hamptons, positioned as industry mentor figure.
Tom Girardi
Erica Jane's ex-husband, mentioned in context of his prison sentence and her new relationship.
Quotes
"How is she selling manifesting? Because that's how she made her money, right? So if you're teaching people how to manifest to make money by taking their money, do they have a return on investment?"
BozEarly in episode
"I can't wait to go home and start skimming through this."
Erica JaneAt manifestation party
"You're not a young spring chicken. You could be a Coco van. You're an old him."
Sutton StrackeDuring confrontation with Amanda
"I'm in a man that can't handle being called a wimp. She's in the wrong group."
Erica JaneDuring party conflict
"The road to hell is paved with good intentions."
BozDuring Amanda confrontation
Full Transcript
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Watch What Crappens Well hello and welcome to Watch What Crappens. this is part two of a two-part recap if you're like hey wait a minute i didn't hear part one guys it's because we put out a lot of recaps go back and listen to part one okay it's before this one bye enjoy the show so now let's go to beverly hills where the ladies are going to the manifestation party so erica and bows are driving together and erica's like oh i talked to my sweetheart today she's like oh your sweetheart oh wow wow i almost forgot you had a sweetheart tell me everything i love love. It's like, well, there's all these articles out today. I don't know if you saw them. But, uh, they're there. We see Daily Mail. Erica Jane breaks her silence on her new boyfriend as ex-husband Tom Girardi begins his prison sentence. Yeah, I went from reading the Daily Mail to hopping on my Daily Mail. Hey, yo, new boyfriend named Shrek. So she goes, I like John because he's not, he's just not shakable. There's been many men I've have seen who want to talk to me and then they realize, oh, that's that woman. No, I'm not getting involved with that. And I cannot blame them. I wouldn't either. So, Erica's like, by the way, Bose, have you talked to Amanda? Let's talk some shit about Amanda. No, girl, I have not. Not since she called me to invite me to this crock of bullshit party we're about to go to. Well, I don't know what's going to happen, but she said we're going to manifest or something. Well, I don't understand. I mean, How is she selling manifesting? Because that's how she made her money, right? So if you're teaching people how to manifest to make money by taking their money, do they have a return on investment? I mean, you go to a restaurant, you order a pancake, you get a pancake. What is the return on the investment here? What is the pancake? She's like, well, I'd like to know a little bit more about what she's doing over there because I sure don't understand. I mean, what the fuck? I did love when Boaz goes, what's the ROI? And like a beat later, she goes, return on investment. because you know it's like erica's like what oh why is that like ero one so bose is like that's what i'm saying i mean it seems really good which means that it's not i was like that's pretty rich coming from erica pun sort of intended so we go to amanda's house and uh she's posing for pictures and natalie the sexy natalie uh simon fuller you know natalie fuller she shows up which of course delights America fan favorite. And then Sutton and Kathy show. How many times has she been on TV now? And I would not be able to pick her out of a lineup. This Natalie girl. I'm sorry. This, this casting is going nowhere guys. Bye. Bye. I feel like in another world, she would have been like in final round for casting for sisters on NBC, you know, that's a high compliment coming from you. I know I'm saying like, she has that vibe. She has like a nineties, nineties, uh, domestic drama, soapy Saturday night vibe to her. You know? Like a Calumvir quality. And Sutton and Kathy come. They arrive together and Sutton's like, well, this is my house. I used to rent this house from Kyle. It used to be Kyle's house. It looks the same to me. Oh, well, I guess they changed the fence. They made a door instead of a picket fence. Wow. Ooh, that's crazy. Now she has a door. A door in her front lawn. Now look at that. Doormat's crooked. Okay. All right. Oh, when it says the money queen and company, I mean, maybe she has an angle on purpose. I'm an angle person. Okay. And then I don't like them. Okay. Sutton Strack loved, loved things that were crooked. Sutton Brown don't like them. Okay. Let's rearrange this. And Kathy goes, maybe we should fix this because it shouldn't be at an angle. There's a lot to be fixed here. Let's just start fixing things. Does she have a small, she has like a small welcome mat that says money queen. And then it's over a giant mat. So she's got like a mat on a mat. And Kathy's like, no, no. Marlo, get in here. What the fuck is happening with these mats? We're going to get it all fixed, ladies. Don't you worry about it. Thanks, girl. Thanks, girl. Yeah. And on top of that, the upper right hand corner of the mat is like curled under the mat. And they keep showing it. And it's like, I wish you just want to like stick your finger under it. Just like release it. Get it all. Blossy. Blossy. But yeah, so Amanda's wearing this dress with little gold butterflies that are cut out and like sewn to the dress. And they look very sharp and scary. So Amanda's like, hi, there's caviar. Do you want like a caviar moment? Because like I want a little caviar moment. And so it's like, oh, God, she loves a moment. This girl. All she says is moment. And then we see 20 of examples of Amanda going, oh, my God, it's like a buffet. Do you guys want a buffet moment? I love a buffet moment. Wow. What time is it? It's 9-12 That's like a moment past It's like 12 moments past 9 What moments? You don't like my butter yellow moment? Oh my god look at my moment You like this moment? I could use a cheese and meat moment Sorry I'm gonna have a bathroom moment You're a moment Do you like my butter yellow moment? It's really a moment Yeah it's like the best moment you could ever have Sun's like Do I love anything as much as Amanda loves a moment? I mean, I like Taylor Swift. Does that count as a moment? Basic. I don't really know. Basic. And then back to Amanda's party, Erica and Boz come, and they see the doormat now. And Boz goes, oh, Lord, that says Money Queen. Come on. This is a billboard. This says nouveau riche. I have arrived. Money Queen at your service. Give me a break. Money Queen at your service. They walk in. Erica's like, oh, I knew this house in the Kyle era, the Sutton era. And this is my favorite room. Amanda's like, don't you mean the Kyle moment, Sutton moment? Sorry, you got to speak my language in my house. Guys, it's my house. He's my language. Okay, let's make our way to the outside. And we'll have a table. And then we can, like, do our manifestations. So they go out there. And Bo's like, where's everybody? Where's everybody else? This is lame. She's like, well, Rachel, Dorit, and Kyle are in the Hamptons. They're having a moment. They're having a Hamptons moment. Oh, I was about to ask if Dorit was invited Well, I was struggling with that choice And then I found out that she's not in town So you didn't have to make that decision Yeah, life helped for me Okay, so if you had a party next week though Would you have invited her? If she and I were to have a chance to speak before next week Then I would hope that I'd want her there But as far as where we left off for now I think I'd feel uncomfortable And you know what? Like, if we were in a place where, like, I was, like, feeling like my physiology wasn't, like, being drowned, then maybe. Maybe. If I weren't waking up every 30 minutes with my heart racing and thinking that Dorit was going to stab me with anti-manifestation knives, then, like, maybe, yeah, I would love to have her there. Oh, oh, oh. So Amanda is now uncomfortable around Dorit. Okay. So they try to have a conversation. She feels accosted. She can't have her in the house. Why? Because she feels violated. So this is an overdramatic response to a small issue. We're going to discuss it. Yeah. So they all sit around and now Erica's like, where's the reet? But she's in the Hamptons, which, by the way, you can just tell how dissatisfied the women are that they are stuck not only at this party, but that they were not chosen to go to the Hamptons thing, that it was not a group trip, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Like you can tell. This is definitely B team footage. I mean, to be stuck at fucking Amanda's house. You don't even get chairs at Amanda's house. She's got double benches at the table. And you know, I hate that. And I'm a person who's a hypocrite because I have a single bench on either side of them. I have a single bench on one side of the dining room table. So sorry. It's just it came like that. Okay. And I know it sucks. I'll never sit there. But whoever I make sit there, usually I hate. And they have everybody gets the bench on this one. Everybody. Yeah, everyone. I got I hate not having something for my back. so um she yeah they're like you can tell they're all profoundly jealous and upset which is probably exactly what bravo was going for because they're like uh no one's been doing anything we need to get these women angry at each other so erica's like how did i get left out of the hamptons i should be in the hamptons right now manifesting billions instead i'm at kyle's old house with a Money Queen welcome, Matt. That was a funny one, Erica. That was good. So now we go back to the Hamptons. And Taree's like, oh, I've been to the Hamptons before, but Nouveau like this. I mean, the restaurant, the Vibre. It's like we're stepping into Rachel's world, and I'm obsessed. Look at everyone here looks just like Rachel. Lots of coat racks with blonde hair, just waiting for feathers to be tossed onto them. Dorit, have you been to the Hamptons or have you just merely gone to a Hamptons Inn? Because there is a difference. So they're sitting down and Kyle's like, oh my God, this is so nice. Like we look like we've like never been out before because by the way, Kyle and Dorit are cheesing out so much. It like they the kids that have been brought to the fancy restaurant for the first time Like oh my God this is amazing It was like me the first time I went to Planet Hollywood in 1994 and I thought like literally there be celebrities at every table because it was called Planet Hollywood It was owned by like Arnold Schwarzenegger and I was like sitting there like over my Captain Crunch fingers, chicken fingers looking left and right being like, like someone gonna walk in, is someone gonna walk in? And that's what Kyle and Dorit are doing. They're just like wide eyed and it's like, it's strange because it's like you guys are celebrities and I feel like you've been to the Hamptons And you have access to like, you know, the bougier parts of Hampton's nightlife. But they are, I think they just, because they know they're just, they're with Rachel Zoe, who has access to like famous fashion people that they're like, oh my God, it's happening. It's happening. I'm no longer going to be Kyle by Shahida. And she's like, I'm no longer going to be Beverly Beach. Together, we're going to be high fashion. They're just so excited for the moment. Beverly Beach by Shahida and Aileen as well. Join forces, Kyle. Get me a Belvedia club soda, three lemons. Cock us out. She is back, peaches. So, um, uh, so Kyle's like, um, I was honestly skeptical to come on this trip, but like now that I'm here, it feels like so good to be out. And Dorit and I are like so happy. You'd think we hadn't left the house in years. I'm like, I don't think Kyle, you have left the house in years. I think your entire storyline last summer was that you stay in the house and you call up your kids and they're like, you guys want me to come along to you? Can I tag along to like El Pollo Loco? And your kids were like, no, mom, stay at home. So please leave us alone. I'm going to her. So now someone's approaching and Kyle's eyes literally cross. I'm surprised they didn't move into the other sockets. Like they switch sockets with it. She's like, and it's Donna Karen. Kyle's like, oh, my God. Is that Donna Karen? oh my god it's Donna Karen someone tell her I know Jamie Lee Curtis hurry run get her quick does she know about ER nurse story let her know about nurse story it's not the fish it's not the fish it's a nurse so Rachel's like hugging her and Rich's like hi Donna oh my god this is Kyle and Dorit and this is everyone this is like queen Donna Karen nice to meet you I'm Kyle Richardson hey it was up to 88 minutes okay I'm more tired than everyone else here but I have more cappuccinos nice to meet you Oh, my God, Donna, you must be so worried with Michael Moore about to kill you. Oh, I'm sorry. That's me. I'm from Halloraine. I'm from Halloraine. Michael Moore. You mean Michael Myers? Michael Myers. Michael Moore. Yeah, actually, Michael Moore really has been trying to kill me for a very long time. Very obnoxious man. Kyle, I'm here to interview you about health care. No, close the doors. What do you think about global warming, Kyle? Oh my god, kids, get in the basement My friendship with Donna Karan Has been through my whole career I always looked up to her I went to her shows She's always spoken to me like I was a daughter to her You know, just always warm, loving, larger than life She'd be like, why are you dressed like a coat rack? And I'd be like, shut up mom And she'd be like, yeah We're just like Donna's like, hi honey And Donna's like, hey girls How's it going? yeah donna's like a mother figure to me it was like she's the one who said always remember to teach your kids to moisturize i learned so much from her so kyle's like kyle's like okay so you're gonna be in malibu we'll see you in malibu donna we're gonna be there i'll be there right we're friends now right this counts right okay i'll follow you on instagram right okay bye i was like yeah definitely malibu i will see you there you know she was like who the fuck was that bitch thirsty ass woman at rachel's table and so rachel's like yeah like donna was nice to me mark jacobs was nice to me michael course he was really nice to me i mean i was just like a starry i'd scared fashion girl i was like 22 and they were so nice to me i was like crashing shows in new york it was like so like oh my god like um whatever people are doing back at home is not as cool as this that's such a Kyle thing to say she's also right but it's such a Kyle thing to say and then we got to Amanda's lame manifestation party so the women are there and Amanda is handing out party favor bags and I was like oh this is exciting we've got a pen and a journal and a straw okay and Amanda goes yeah well the straw goes with something just keep going through the bag you're gonna see something and there's like a glass and the glass says manifestation moment so the straw are we going to be sipping our manifestations out of this cup? I'm not sure if I understand what's going on here. Are we snorting manifestation coke? What is happening here? She's like, um, there's a commemorative glass. Oh. And something goes, oh. Very exciting. They're so unimpressed. I could remember forever coming to Amanda's house and sitting on a picnic bench. This is... And there's, um, they all pulled... Oh, and you gave us your book, the... Money, be a bitch and manifest. Is that what it says? I don't remember. Oh, there she is. It's Amanda Francis, number one bestseller. I'm going to go home tonight and start skimming away. Oh, by the way, when Erica said that, what a thing to say. Oh, I can't wait to go home and start skimming through this. That was one of the funniest things Erica's ever. That's so passive aggressive. Oh, I can't wait to just lightly peruse some of the words here before I put it on my nightstand and never touch it again. Wow, a signed copy of your self-published book. I'm thrilled. A self-published, I didn't pick up on that one. She said, a signed copy of your self-published book. Nothing against that, but seriously, that was great shade. The skimming and the self-published, like Erica was on one today. So Amanda's like, listen, if these women would just like crack open the book, they might find some really useful information. Chapter two, for example, we talk about not waiting on a man to make you rich and take it upon yourself. I'm like, Kathy Hilton's there. I don't think she needs to manifest this part of her journey. I think she's doing okay. And your husband's doing it really well, by the way. So then back to the party, Amanda's like, okay, let's do some manifesting. And Buzz goes, oh, already? Already? We're already going to manifest right now? And Erica goes, what am I supposed to manifest? This feels like sex without foreplay. We just went right in, okay? I guess, okay, boom, boom. boom, manifest, go. And so they're kind of laughing at Amanda because she just is so bad at this. She's so bad at this. It's so tacky. It's like, welcome to my home. Here's my book and a manifestation straw to use with your commemorative cup that says rich bitch Amanda on it. Oh God, no one likes you. What are you doing? There really is also such a generational divide happening here. I mean, they're not that far apart in age. I mean, Amanda is 40 and some of them, I don't remember how old the rest of them are, but they're late 40s. I think Bose is like 47, 48. There's not a huge difference of ages, but you definitely get the sense of millennial versus, I don't know, I guess they're Gen X, right? And you see that they're just like, what is this? Because if Amanda were with her fellow millennials, I can imagine a group of Amandas, I'm not saying all millennials are like this, but I can imagine a group of like-minded Amanda types sitting there being like, oh my god i love this oh my god that's totally journaled this is like such an important moment but with these women they're like what the fuck we're like we're just gonna dive into the manifestation we're not even gonna have our cocktails or caviar first like what the fuck is going on here and it's so hilarious watching amanda trying to kind of like wedge this hobby onto these onto these women and they're like just not having it whatsoever well she's trying to do a workshop with the ladies like she's trying to do one of her paid workshops and these people are not your fans so amanda's like okay well look it's something i ask myself a lot like if i could have anything like if possibilities are endless what would i love myself on and buzz goes uh and you want us to write that down yeah that's what i would do like write down write down the question and suddenly goes wait we're supposed to write down the question she's like no the answer my life is like i just they're the thing is that they're intentionally acting like they have no idea they all know how to do this but they're just acting like wait so you want us to write so i made it's like well they're also all fabulously wealthy you know what i mean yeah so you're like asking a bunch of people who have already done this and are already living like the glamorous life it's like wow that's why it's just while you're ironing tonight you know while you're ironing and like cleaning out your kids cloth diapers just think about what life could be like it's like they would all dream to be kathy hilton and fucking bows that's what they dream that's why it's funny because kathy hilton like i don't think she has to manifest i think she just buys at this point like she needs some some help with something she'll buy it so amanda's like my life is a living breathing example that we can create what we want when i was a kid i had a malibu barbie book and I'm going to cry actually. I'm going to cry. I'm going to cry. Meanwhile, I have to point out, she is wearing a tutu as a dress. Like she's wearing a child's dance recital tutu, but pulled over the top of her. She looks crazy and it's pink, of course. And so she starts crying. She's right when she said, I had a Malibu Barbie, but hold on, I'm going to cry. This was the moment when Dom was watching along with me and he just goes, I can't. And he just left the room. it's my favorite when dom reaches that point with any of our bravo shows she's like so in the in the barbie book barbie had a three-story house in malibu and a convertible and she could see the dolphins from her window and it was not lost on me that when i moved into my malibu house in 2018 it was a three house with an elevator and i was driving a convertible and I could see dolphins from my window and then we see a picture of this and we see the water in the back and it like this tiny little patch of water you did not see this is like jack's when he you know asked britney to marry him on that seafood place on the freeway that fried seafood place on the freeway it was like you got there were dolphins jumping right behind us like that was a that was a car that was a volkswagen sir it's literally one of the funniest monologues in the history of this show this was a good one yeah she's like and then i ended up with a gay a guy that i don't know i met on i met in west hollywood that had no crotch i mean it's just crazy how manifestation works yeah yeah she was manifesting all in fact she goes we're all we're all manifesting all the time i just did it on purpose. God. So Erica's like, all right, well, I wrote down total financial freedom, which would allow me to solve a lot of the issues that I have. I also wrote down, poor people, stop complaining to me. I didn't do it. And then I wrote, I did not start your house on fire. Stop trying to sue me, you dumb poor bitch. Okay, am I done? Can we eat now? I also manifested E, as in the note E. I'd love to hit it someday. I've been working on it for a few years. And Natalie goes, freedom. That's the word I was circling, freedom. You're literally free and you've got like tens of millions of dollars you just got. What do you need freedom for? Freedom is just another word for do something interesting on this show. Commercials, here comes one right now. So then Erica, Erica's like, girl, I need to win some cases. I might actually have to do this manifestation shit. I don't know. It's really making me laugh. Marco, Marco dead. Is that good enough? And Kathy's like, oh, I'm just going to copy Erica. She's like, I don't know if I need to manifest anything. So Amanda goes, yeah, Erica, A plus student. You're doing a great job. Well, Erica is the star people over there. And Natalie's like, well, I don't mind journaling by myself, but doing it as part of a conversation is kind of weird. And Erica's like, yeah, does it make you more hesitant to open up about how you feel, Natalie? Who are you, by the way? Who let this woman into our party? She's like, well, I could open up, but I might be less open. Okay, well, usually I'm leading this online most of the time. But like what I when I do in the small groups, like if people pay for a VIP day, like every class will take like, you know, five to 10 minutes to write on their own. But yeah, I mean, that's okay. Like, it's just not your vibe. And if it's not your vibe, then it's not your vibe. So it's okay. She's basically like, you're manifesting wrong, ladies. This is not how you're supposed to journal. Why is everyone talking? But she should have said, everyone take 10 minutes. Excuse me, I'm giving you a free version of my online course. I'll never you. People pay $1,500 to do this, and they normally go into a different corner, and they write quietly for 10 minutes. She's like, you're all doing it wrong. So Boza's like, Amanda said she would not have invited to read, by the way, everyone. I just want to manifest some drama into the scene. And she's like, well, I said I was struggling with the situation. And it's like, well, you should be. Well, I'm not going to tell y'all how to fix it, but I am going to tell you what to do. So listen, Amanda, this is Sutton Brown. Okay, well, you've manifested Sutton Brown here. You got a cop to it. Say, look, I was talking about your marriage without you present because you didn't do that the other night. That's what you got to do. Now, listen, I'm Sutton Brown. This is Sutton Brown talking. And I'm not going to tell you how to do. I'm not going. I'm not going. I love when she says that. I'm not going. Okay, I'm going to tell you. I'm going to tell you. So I cop to it. And she goes, but I disagree with the premise. And Bruce goes, what premise? Okay, well, let's talk about this. Amanda, I'm going to give you some very good advice, okay? You did have your own opinion about the way Dorit was talking about our marriage. And then you kind of backed off and said you were just repeating Kyle. Now, let me tell you, I know this group. And if you don't cop to it and you don't say, you know what? I did say that. People ain't going to respect you. And you're a big girl. And you're not a young spring chicken. So I think you need to look at the flaps under your arm that wave every time you wave at somebody and say, I have anti-arms now. I'm a lady. I'm not a young spring chicken. Do you understand? You're not a spring chicken. You could be a Coco van. You're an old him. Okay? By the way, whenever calling someone not a young spring chicken on a Real Housewives show is akin to- That is throwing down the gauntlet. I mean, that is harsh. Even Kathy goes, whoa. We're all spring chickens. How could you say that? Yeah, that's like, that's a bold thing to do. So sudden, by the way, I kind of feel like Amanda should cop up to saying like, yeah, I did have an opinion. But mainly I was just agreeing with Kyle. I think she can have it both ways because I think both are actually true. I think Kyle was largely driving that conversation. I think Amanda was largely sort of like saying, yeah, I agree, supporting. And she did have her own opinion. And I think it's all of the above are correct. and Amanda should just sort of cop up to, like, she should admit that she did that. But I think largely, though, I still think it actually was largely Kyle. I don't think Amanda's opinion was, like, super, super strong. And they all talk about each other and their marriages behind each other's backs. No, but it became worse because of how Amanda reacted. You know, if Amanda just said in the beginning, I said it, I shouldn't have said it, sorry. But she didn't. Instead, she turned it into this big victim thing, and she's going to do it again because people are patterns. People are made out of patterns and she'll do it again. Every time she's confronted she will bring up some victim thing and she's going to do it again in just a second and it's hilarious. So Amanda's like, oh wait, so Sutton told Dorit this thing I allegedly said and now Sutton wants to tell me how to resolve the thing that she started? I mean, what the fuck? Which is kind of true. And so Amanda's like, I mean, I just felt like it was innocent so I was surprised it became a fight. She goes, oh, talking about someone else's marriage? That's not nothing, okay? That's something. You know something that's not nothing? It's something. Okay. So back in the Hamptons, Suzanne, who's Rachel's friend, is there and she's the person of the house. She's like, so, Dorit, how long have you been married for? I've been married for 10 years. Together for 14. Carcass is out for 17. And Suzanne's like, oh, are you guys on good terms? No, unfortunately, that's the hardest part for me. I've gone through hell and I've recently learned that my husband's been decapitated and it's very scary for the children so we've covered them in powdered sugar and hoping for the best rich goes sam sam been through hell too sam because like well i mean you don't have formal custody set up so like for example like when you were going to come here i mean what you were texting him what were you saying like i'm leaving town do you want the kids i mean how does that work just well i've been asking him are you here for the summer let's make a fixed schedule and he said let's do mediation and suzanne's like what mediation to talk about one weekend. So if he has such easy, this is the thing that Dorit doesn't make much sense. Like if, if he has such easy access to the kids and why does he need mediation to get the kids? I don't understand this. I wish we could get their lawyer or somebody on here to tell us what's happening. Cause I really care. I want to know. Well, the judge came in the room and said, PK would like every other Thursday to Sunday. And I said, don't next. I said, I want to discuss finances, which we never even got a chance to discuss in mediation because all the financials were redacted. So I can't tell what's in that bank. Could be a dollar, could be a million dollars. And all I know is that it just delays things further and further and further and further. P.E. did the same thing to the financials that he does to every Doritos box I bring in the house when he's trying to calorie count. He redacted them. Just black markers over every calorie. it's like when i made that inventory of what's in our kitchen and he just scratched out the pringles every single day pringles scratched out so wait watch his journal redacted entire thing uh kyle's like um well i haven't heard from you but like what happened the other day with mauricio was it not good because kyle obviously got the full report from mauricio as soon as it was over she's like no unfortunately it was not good she's like oh really oh it's like to me it felt very much like he had a script he was a loyal soldier came in you know and had a job to do sort of like how you wish you had a script kyle and kyle's like i mean i'm gonna keep my mouth shut because like oh what am i supposed to say like not what i heard no i'm gonna wait and then behind her back i'm gonna say not what i heard and then i'm gonna show you video proof to show what an idiot she is. So Kyle, we see Kyle on the phone with Mo, and Mo's like, oh, you know, she has her own perspective and point of view, you know, like there was no way I was going to change it. And all I was trying to do is see his point, make her see her point of view, his point of view. You know what I'm trying to say. But like, to be honest with you, I don't know if I could help them. You know, she's not the same person. She didn't even say carcass out. Like, who is she? Mauricio, are you squinting through the phone? Yeah, I am. I can just feel it. I'm just confused because I'm talking to you, but on my phone, there's like a moving picture of my wife in glasses. That's me. We're on FaceTime. Oh, wow. I mean, all we can do is support them. And by support them have PK side and you can try to talk to both of them and see what we can do anything. And if we can't, then we just step away and just take PK side fully, you know, because you read only once. Yes. People in her life right now. And I'm just not that person. So I just have to try to avoid these conversations as much as possible. No, it's like she. Yeah. Okay. For sure. She wants yes people in her life, but because she's going through divorce. I think that's when you. She wants support and deserve it. She wants supportive people Kyle And I like Kyle like I going to avoid these situations except behind her back on camera So then Rachel like okay what I seeing like across the board like an epidemic is the insecurity and the breakdown of men. Once they're between the ages of like 40 and 55, they're like not where they want to be. Their wife is more famous than them. Their wife has their name on pillows. I mean, it's very difficult. You know, it's hard to walk a man through HomeGoods when the wife he hates has her name on literally everything. And it makes him feel small. And it makes him feel tiny. And you know what? I'm fucking sick of that. I'm fucking sick of that. I'm fucking sick of Rachel Zoe business all being about someone who's not Rachel Zoe. It's crazy. It's not, it's like, now it's like not even HomeGoods for me anymore. It's HomeBads because he's ruined it for me. Yeah. So everyone, I just want to announce to all the world, I've really discovered this wave of men from 40 to 55 who are unraveling. I'm like, wow, Rachel Zoe, breaking news, midlife crises amongst men happen between the ages of 40 and 55. I just love how she's like, guys, I'm really starting to see this. It's like an epidemic across the board. Men do this. It's like, yes, Rachel, I think it's pretty well documented. We've seen Harrison Ford's earring. I've noticed that when men age, they start refusing to put their wife's carry on in the above bin for them. And we do not have to pander anymore, ladies. I am ever at. And they're like, yes. And Kyle's like, I mean, you're talking about yourself, right? I mean, just specifically or everybody or. So to read, it's like, well, my relationship with Bikui changed when he became obsessed with his public image. He always used to say, I'm not Ken Todd. I'm not going to walk behind a Kiri and a dog. But the truth is, he has always craved the spotlight. And we see a flashback. And the truth is, is that Ken Todd is happy and still married. Ken Todd is living life I love when he's I love that someone thinks it's a diss like oh yeah well I'm never gonna be that guy meanwhile the guy is like doing great and happy and a great relationship like you know what I'm never gonna be I'm never gonna be a guy who supports his wife that's what I'm not gonna do it was me that was the global entrepreneur it was me that builds businesses and you made me feel lesser than that was the flashback from last year it was also that you It was also you that lost tens of millions of dollars, that became a gambling addict and lost tens of millions of dollars more, that had the fucking Bellagio after them because you were such a fucking loser. And it's also you that just had one season of a shitty show that was already canceled. And also you that only has Boy George in his arsenal. Get out of here, PK. Get out. So Rachel's like, you know, when you start to notice that, that like that's the time to say, you know what? I do see through you and I don't respect you anymore. I'm gonna put my own bag overhead and if he's gonna choose to be that that person and not this person who you love for 25 years theoretically guess what this isn't gonna work anymore I'm done trying and I'm done fucking waiting Dak yes yes speak to us speak to it Rachel girl you know I do literally see through PK I can watch donuts digest his veins are black oh my god that was crazy. Is Donna Kyron going to get mad that you're cursing? So you go back to Amanda's party and everyone's bored. So it's like, okay, well, I'm sure all of us just want things resolved, okay, Amanda? And she goes, well, when we showed up to the birthday dinner the other night, my thought was this is going to just be so easy to clear up. Yes, but you kept on blaming it on Kyle and that is the problem. Yeah, you never just owned up and said, this is my opinion. Okay, but like I had just been crying about my son on the anniversary of his death like and bows just bows just gives like a gym a gym look to the camera from the office she's just like they all just they're like nope you don't get to do that again and i like that son goes yeah but i mean after that she's like it wouldn't happen at that night at that part at the dinner party okay so what what was your excuse then you know and she's like well you know i'm gonna say that i'm gonna say it again again again now you've got dorit and going after each other. It's all your fault. And she's like, but I have them going after each other? And they're like, yes, it's your fault. Oh, God. Okay, this is going a little bit far, you guys. No, it's not. Son's like, yes, you do. You do. You do. It's you. You manifested it. They weren't already after each other. It's like, no, they were not. They had a great friendship that was very stable. It's like, I don't think it's fair to put that in, like me, put that all on me. It's like, no, it's totally fair. and you didn't say what you needed to say to diffuse the situation. Yes, because I think the point is that if you had an opinion about it, you cop up to it instead of deflecting and saying, but Kyle, but Kyle, but Kyle, to get the heat off of yourself. And Amanda tells us, yeah, I'll apologize if I'm wrong, but I'm not apologizing for this. Sutton says, well, Amanda is vocal when she has a strong opinion about something, but as soon as someone opposes that opinion, her body physically shuts down. Okay, enter. Can we put clips of Sutton running out of the Magic Mike show, screaming and crying i know or literally any of 30 sudden clips that you guys have on hand like she's so crazy and she's like yeah you know her body says i don't like this and so then amanda is now closing her eyes and getting preachy and she's like um i really believe that intention matters in life you guys yeah but the road to hell is paid with good intentions someone finally got it right on Bravo. Bo's like, well, tell it. Somebody preach. So Kathy's like, oh, well, this is fun. Poor people fighting. And Sutton's like, well, listen, Amanda, you just can't be such a wimp. Come on. She goes, hey, you're in my home. Don't call me a wimp, please. Oh, God. Can you have one conversation that's not you being a fucking victim about every little thing that's said? She won't ever argue with what's being said. She's arguing with, like, you're attacking me. Oh, my God. I don't get you to say that in my home. And then one of the greatest moments in the history of the show, Erica goes, I'm in a man that can't handle being called a whim. She's in the wrong group. And we see a surprisingly long montage of the real housewives of Beverly Hills calling each other cup fitnesses. And it was hilarious. I really hadn't realized how many times they'd said it over the years. Shut up, Camille. You're a dumb cup fitness. Oh, my God. It was so funny. So Kathy's like, well, you know, sometimes you just got to read the room and realize you're going to get your tail in hot water, right? All right. So what other advice can we give you, Amanda? She's like, so she just laughs. Amanda's just had her ass handed to her and everybody's so bored at her party. Oh, another fail for Amanda. God, they just keep piling up. Yeah. The only thing these women want to manifest is chaos. Yeah. Well, hilarious. What a funny episode. So good. Good times, everybody. Well, thanks for being here. 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