No Jumper

SportycK on Norwalk, What the CK in His Name Means, Getting Shot, the N Word & More

74 min
Apr 15, 2026about 2 months ago
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Summary

SportyCK, a rapper from Norwalk in Southeast LA, discusses his journey from gang life to music stardom, including getting shot twice, losing his father, and navigating the complexities of being a South Side gang member pursuing a rap career while facing multiple felony cases.

Insights
  • Gang affiliation and rap careers can coexist but create significant legal and professional barriers; labels view artists with criminal exposure as liabilities
  • Removing racially charged language from music improved commercial performance and reception, suggesting market demand for culturally authentic but inclusive content
  • Fatherhood fundamentally shifted perspective on gang lifestyle, creating internal conflict between street identity and desire to model better behavior for his daughter
  • Geographic and gang politics create invisible boundaries that limit artist collaboration and touring opportunities, fragmenting the broader rap market
  • Authenticity in street rap requires lived experience, making it difficult for artists to pivot away from gang narratives without losing credibility with core audiences
Trends
Increasing adoption of South Side gang affiliations by non-Latino rappers, challenging traditional racial hierarchies in gang structuresShift toward content moderation and algorithmic awareness among emerging rappers, using strategic naming and tag placement for discoverabilityGrowing tension between artistic freedom and legal liability in gang-affiliated rap, with prosecutors using music videos as evidenceEmergence of 'SportyCK-type beats' as a marketable production style, indicating rapid commodification of individual artist aestheticsIncarceration as expected career milestone rather than deterrent, with artists pre-recording content for release during prison sentencesFemale gang members and associates gaining visibility through diss tracks and public feuds, challenging male-dominated narrative spaceCross-regional collaboration between East Coast and West Coast gang-affiliated rappers, breaking down traditional geographic beef structures
Topics
Gang membership and music career intersectionIncarceration and criminal justice system impact on artistsRacial dynamics in South Side gang cultureFatherhood and lifestyle change in gang contextMusic industry barriers for gang-affiliated artistsAlgorithm optimization for music discoveryAuthenticity vs. commercial viability in street rapGeographic gang politics and territorial limitationsUse of music videos as legal evidenceMentorship and generational gang knowledge transferMental health and trauma in gang environmentsFemale representation in gang culture and rapTattoo symbolism and gang affiliationCOVID-19 impact on youth athletic and educational opportunitiesFirecamp and prison work programs as gang status markers
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People
SportyCK
Guest discussing his journey from Norwalk gang life to rap career, upcoming incarceration, and music production
Adam22
Host conducting interview with SportyCK, asking questions about gang politics, music career, and personal experiences
Lefty Gunplay
Collaborated with SportyCK on 'Boulevard Babies' remix; released song without SportyCK's knowledge despite giving him...
Ryder G
Norwalk rapper who went to firecamp; criticized by SportyCK for claiming gang affiliation while being disassociated f...
Peso Pluma
Referenced as influence on SportyCK's music style; mentioned as having black baby mama
Draco
Identified as major musical influence on SportyCK during his formative years
E.B.K. J-Bos
Referenced as example of gang-affiliated rapper who maintains street narratives throughout career despite commercial ...
Tommy Gunn
Mentioned as artist who performs in Northern California despite gang affiliations; frequently involved in altercation...
Quotes
"I chose this life. Nobody else did. And that's how I see it."
SportyCKEarly in interview
"Ain't nobody your friend, the only friend you got is money. That's the only one that's gonna have your back when you rough."
SportyCK (quoting his father)Mid-interview
"I'm a good guy, dawg. I'm genuine, I do this shit for, with a passion, like, I'm doing this shit for my city, my baby, my pops."
SportyCKClosing statement
"If she's looking up to me, like as a father, you know, like, and she's going to want somebody that's, you know, that does right like her father."
SportyCKDiscussing fatherhood
"I feel like it helped out a lot like with my career. Like and I had to realize it too because at the end of the day, I would have homies from my hood even tell me about it. Like, hey, for you need to stop saying that shit."
SportyCK (on removing N-word from music)Music career discussion
Full Transcript
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It's just like any other childhood, you know, has its ups and downs, but we live in every day. What are your parents on? I mean, my dad was a gang member. My mom, she was from the hood. She knew us up, you know? So I feel like I just grabbed onto it, you know? That's what I've seen. Your dad was from the same hood as you? No, he wasn't. He's from the homie hood, actually. He's from Cantarana. And I never really grew up in that area. That's Santa Fe Springs. Oh, okay. Chousa the Swatmeat. Chousa the over there. And your dad was around like your old child and everything? Yeah, he was always around. That was mainly my primary caregiver, you know? So your mom wasn't around as much? As my real mom? No. My real biological mother? No. She was never around. Okay. Yeah, since I was a young kid. Interesting. And what's that area like for those out there? Like was it a real treacherous place to grow up or not really? I mean, I know back in the days when I was growing up, yeah, it was always like, you know, like, it wasn't, I'm not going to say it was as bad as, you know, like Compton and stuff like that, you know? But it has its days, you know? So for context, that's the Sella, Southeast Sella. What do you feel like is like the most dangerous part of the Sella? I don't know. I mean, there's different parts. There's, you know, because you got like, there's multiple. You got, you got Whittier. You got, you got Santa Fe Springs. You got Hawaiian Gardens. You got Artigias, Ritos. Like, there's, it goes on. Like, this goes on the Southeast part of the, but it gets dangerous in every one of them, you know? And obviously it's like predominantly Rasa down there, but like it's somewhat racially mixed too, right? I mean, not really. I feel like nowadays now, I know there's certain hoods that still, you know, press that, you know, NK, whatever. But as for me and my hood, we don't do that, you know? We don't, but we're, we're a, we're a SA hood. Like we're, we're SA's with Mexicans. We don't, you know, we don't really allow any other, any other than that. So if there was a black dude who wanted to be from your hood and he grew up around there, it still just wouldn't happen? I mean, nah, it's possible. I'm not saying it's not possible, but it just, I feel like they come a lot more to it. Like they got to be, they got to prove themselves more. Right. To, you know, because at the end of the day, like, this is a SA, we're a Vodio. We run Mexicans, so you're going to take that chance when you go to jail, like, you're going to switch up, like you run black, you know? It's different like that. So that's how I see it. That's how we see it. Were you a troubled kid during your younger years? Were you in trouble? Or were you kind of a big guy? I mean, I was always been a f***ing up, like since I was a kid, I was getting suspended since then. Why'd you get suspended in kindergarten, bro? Yeah, kindergarten. That's a little early, you're like five in kindergarten. Yes, that's what I'm saying, like, but I'm telling you just since I was, you know, out of all my family, they knew, like, it was coming for me, you know? Really? Yeah. Like, towards when I was like, when I was like 15, 16, they thought like, oh, he has some hope. He'll change it up. But nah, like, it just came back to me. So you don't think it was any, like, particular trauma that you went through as a kid? You were just kind of born to cause trouble? I mean, not necessarily. I feel like it was just, you just, you latch onto the things that you're surrounded by, you know, like, so I feel like that I just fell in line, basically. And I'll never like say anybody put it on me because I make my own decisions at the end of the day. I chose this life. Nobody else did. And that's how I see it. So, but as for me, you know, like what I looked up to, yeah, that's all I seen was the gang life. My brothers, my pops, you know, uncles, all that shit. Did you get put on or was it just like you got walked on because you already? No, hell nah. You just put on over here, like, you got to get put onto the hood and you got to get put onto your clique. And those are two different put on. So really? Yeah. Okay. Definitely. All right. So did your dad try to keep you away from the gang? Definitely. Yeah, he tried his best to, you know, he tried to hide it as much, but it's just there's so much that you can hide, you know, when you're doing certain shit. And it's just at a certain age, he just not necessarily not like gave a f***, but he was just like, you know, he already knows like why hide it, at least just, you know, teach him about it. And that's what he did. That is like, I'm gonna say when I turn like 16, he started, you know, putting me on game with certain shit. Like, like main thing that I took from him was like ain't nobody your friend, the only friend you got is money. That's the only one that's gonna have your back when you rough. But isn't that kind of the opposite of the gang mentality? Yeah. Where if you're in a gang, you're supposed to be able to really rely on everybody. Yeah. And that's the thing. Yeah. I'm a right from her regardless, but ain't nobody gonna have your back the way money do. And shit. Shit. Money could buy you loyalty. Yeah. Sometimes. Until you run out of it. Yeah. Until you run out of it. That's why it's just. But around 16 was when he kind of realized like, all right, this is what his life is going to be like. I can't really control it. Yeah. Like he just seen it. Like, all right, like he's going this way. At least I, you know, show him the right way. Shit. I took his words. I never, I never lost them. Definitely. What was your mom disappointed? It was your mom understanding about that situation? I mean, no, I feel like my mom was more mad about it than my pops was. Because she was more hard on me than he was, you know, like she was more like the discipline pair. But she's just worried probably. Yeah. She's just worried that as a mother, it's always going to be, you know, but yeah, I feel like he never stopped me. But it always hurt me knowing that she was like always worried and shit like that. But that's what comes with it. When's the first time you got arrested? I was 18. I had just turned 18. You missed out on the Los Petritos lawsuit. Yeah, I know how I could have been bothered. Wait, so that's the big lawsuit that they're doing against the youth offender? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, all the Juvies. If you, if you was in there, you getting paid. So everybody's lying and acting like they got beat up and molested and shit or what? Just so you got a touch. Yeah. Not because I heard Smack say that he was going to lie about it. He totally should. Yeah. I encourage it. No, good for him. So you went to the county, right? Or was it just? No, it was just during that time, like I got, like I was like all my cases I got, I build out like every case I caught, I build out. But like, yeah, I was 18. I was 18. I caught my first gun. Now, okay. So Norwalk is a very active city when it comes to like, obviously, like you're from Vario Norwalk. That's like this name back for the city. You know, there's a level of importance, but there's also like, there's peaceful Vario Norwalk. Yeah, there's multiple hoods in Norwalk. You got, you got a water in Norwalk. You got peaceful water in Norwalk. You got Orange Street Locos. You got a Vario Carmela's Vario Chivas, Vario neighborhood, Vario night crawlers. And that's all just right there. I thought Chivas was in our Tisha though. They're, well, that's the thing. They're, that's different. Like there's Vario Articia and Vario, like Vario Articia Chivas and then Vario Chivas. Okay. So that's, this is the reason I'm bringing this up is because the CK in your name is pretty confusing to a lot of people. They think it means like, you're talking about Crips. Yeah. And not, it's never been about Crips. I have my CK for my own reasons. Like we be for it. Chivas and Carmela's like, it's that's what we stand for the CK for. It's never been about Crips. I got Crips homies. But it's not the Articia Chivas or is there, are they like, it's both. It's both. Yeah. That's the, that's the theme. They run together like they homies. I know they, they click up, but other foot. I don't know. I really don't know how they run. I just know that there's Articia. There's Chivas, you know, shit like that. But border like literally in Chivas is like borderline. Like you got 166 on this side. You got the Vario. That's our side. Then on this side of 166, you got Chivas and that's their hood. It's literally borderline. Like the officer across the street, across the street. Okay. And so where the sporty part come from? That's my, my oldest brother. He's big sporty. Oh yeah. They call me little sporty, but I just go out sporty. Is it true that fools drop the little like in like a lot of SAOs? They don't be saying little. I mean, I mean, I depends. There's still, there's two foods that use like the homie. He's a little player. He runs it like that. But I just feel like I ain't little. You're like avatar. But Lil is nothing compared to baby and infant. Yeah. Like she like that. Yeah. But I feel like that, that's based on generations. Like, you know, like, like brothers, pops, and shit like that, you know, Have you ever had a Crip trip on you in particular because the sporty thing, you know, that's obviously like a Roland 40s thing and everything. So I can imagine dudes who don't necessarily understand your politics, seeing your name and just being like, what the fuck is that? No, I look here. I never had any, like, anybody like come at me like, I had people ask me, Oh, what's this? He quick CK for, but never like anybody like already know like my name and say, Hey, what's, you know, like trip on me. It's never been that. Right. But I know when I introduce myself, sometimes I will say that I'll like sporty CK. And they'll be like, Oh, like, what's that? I'm not like, you know, tell them what it is. But you guys will just throw that on the end of anything because like somebody like a Treyway 6k, you know, he's like, well, I guess he's Treyway 6. So that's why he has to put the K to turn whatever. But like, you just like added it in there as like a bonus because obviously there's no C. That's why, no, no, no, no, that's why it's my name is a sporty as that. That's why people call me sporty. I just do the CK just, you know, add a little, but dazzle to my name for the algorithm. Yeah. The algorithm, right? That's right. Is there like those beefs though with them other hoods probably like are older than you? Huh? Yeah. These hoods been around for generations. So it's like, you know, it's not even like it's kind of like once you once I'm from the hood, it's on me. It's put on me. Yeah. Exactly. So got it. So do you, do you consider yourself a sporty guy? Like do you play sports? Do you want sports? Yeah, I used to play sports. I used to play baseball. I was more of a baseball type of man. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's why I lived up to my name. Also, sporty means fly too. Like, you know, if you dress good and all that. Yeah, definitely. You think you could have made it as a baseball player? Fuck yeah. I had, what is it? So she's like scouts and she had multiple scouts. Oh, for real? Yeah, scouts. I had scouts to multiple colleges. When I was already, and that was when I was like sophomore and shit. Okay. I was playing in varsity. Was there anything that happened that killed the baseball dream? COVID. COVID. Yeah. I feel like COVID, you should stop going to school. I stopped giving up. Yeah. Just went a different route. I mean, also like once you start smoking weed, you don't care about sports. Yeah, but that was the thing. I was smoking weed when I was playing baseball and I was still doing my shit. But yeah, that didn't stop me. It was for like being inside, being locked down and shit. That's it. In the suburbs, it's like if you start smoking weed when you're 14, that's like your childhood trauma that means that you're never going to ascend in life. In Los Angeles, it's just like you're smoking weed since you're 10. Yeah, that's my side. Yeah. And if you let that ruin your life, that's on you. You're fucking jackass. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If the weed sends you to Skid Row, then that's your problem. And I've seen it happen. Yeah, no. But that's funny because even like in my like early 20s, I knew BMX dudes that got into smoking weed and we would be like, damn man, he was so cool and they start smoking. His whole life is over. Yeah. Just thinking we fucked them up. But some dudes like really like they were kind of like sensitive enough that they were like that. Like you started smoking weed and we just wouldn't see him anymore. Just fucking start smoking some other shit. Just being the crib. Yeah. And then probably went to the Toonchi at some point. I don't know. Imagine if they started doing skanta. Skanta. Have you ever tried that fool? No, never. I stick to my weeding drink. The night is young story. He was chicken. Hang out with this fool in MacArthur Park. You're going to see the fun side of the skanta. It's not all doom and gloom, man. Yeah, exactly. There's I don't want to put that out there. No, you look like a relatively healthy person as far as like drug use goes though. Like you see me. I try to keep my health as good as possible. Yeah. Shit. I haven't been eating as much, but shit. I'll be trying. Why is that? I just, you know, stress. Shit. What do you stress that about, man? Shit, I got a lot of stress. Man, I'm a father, a gang member, all types of shit. But you know, we still out here. I feel that. Why did you become a dad? Two years ago, my baby's two. And was it with a woman you were planning on spending the rest of your life with or was it an accident? Yeah, I mean, yeah, I could say that. Like I looked at it as a girl that I've seen in the future. Okay. We had our differences, you know. Oh, okay. I'll always be there for my child. It doesn't exactly sound like you were making art labo dedication for being completely honest. I never made no fucking less songs. I'm starting to now like, but it's only for like, just try to like change up my flow and shit, you know. But when you make a love song now, you're not talking about anybody in particular. You're just imagining the one. Just imagining. That's all it is. Imagination. It's a concept. It's a concept. How much like, all right. So how did having the kid change you? Shit, it changed my aspect on everything. Like just where I have to move, what I have to do, how much money I got to put in my pocket, you know, like it changed a lot. But I feel like it changed me as a man too. Like I looked at a lot of things different, how I looked at females, like, you know, that's that's one thing that it changed my mind. I was like, damn, do I really want that for my daughter? Like, you know, so. Do you ever think about it? Because like, I had my girl say that to me before is like, you have to treat your daughter as sweet as you possibly can. Because one day she's going to want to find a guy and she's going to want, she's going to hold those guys to the standard of how you treated her. So if you made her feel special all the time, she's never going to accept a guy that doesn't make her feel special. So you got to, you got to just do everything you can to just gas her up so that one day she'll not accept a guy unless he's that sweet to her. Yeah. And that's what I had to put in my mind. Like, if she's looking up to me, like as a father, you know, like, and she's going to want somebody that's, you know, that does right like her father, you know, always, you know, constantly arguing and shit like that. You don't want to do that shit in front of your baby, you know. So I had to realize that shit. So do you feel like you have to downplay certain parts of your personality, like the gangster shit? Oh yeah. And most definitely like, I'm going to try to hide it as much as possible as for as long as possible as I can. But if it gets to a certain point, if we're already knowing like a little bit too much, then I'll do the same thing like my dad. I'll try to show her the best way. I'm not necessarily putting her in that life, but I'm at least show her like what was right and wrong. Definitely. Um, okay. So you said you got locked up for a gun when you're 18. How many other times you get arrested? I'm fighting five cases right now. What? Five? Simultaneously. Yeah. Allegedly. Uh, all state cases, I'm assuming. Yeah. Mostly gun cases or? Yeah. Just bullshit. Damn. Yeah. I'm still fighting all of them too. So. But you did nothing wrong. So you're going to be right out of all the charges. Yeah. That's fine. I'm chilling. Now, um, one thing I didn't ask when I pulled up on you in the section the other day that I really regret. My dog, a rider. G. All right. Right. A G. Legend on Instagram and the internet in general and very vocal line pusher. A lot. Dita. Spice on Latina shots of Ryder G. He's very vocal about, you know, being from Norwalk and all that is his, he's either homie like what's the deal with. He's most definitely not the homie. Oh, yeah. No way. Yeah. Now he's, he's not the homie. He's no good. Oh yeah. He's. Wait. This is a guy on the internet that I don't know. You don't know. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But he's extremely entertaining, you know, like, he's a funny guy and he's a clown. Yeah. He's, so he's, I don't want to like put him in this category because he'll probably get super mad. He's by all right again. He's not good. Well, yeah. Like the same like Mexican crit max statement that you were made, but like. More. More like, yeah. Oh, wow. But he's like, but he's with the business or no, is he, is he from the hood? I mean, well, he was a fish from the hood, but he's not official no more. Trade the vape for the, for the one. For the plan. He's got it. The handoff. No, but no, he's, he's no good from the set. Like, you know, he went down a path where you call, uh, he went, he took a, what is it? Just a Mexican. No, no, no, he went fire camp and you don't do that. You can't go to fire camp. No, no, that's basically 50, 50 PC, you know, same shit. So once you're already locked up, you can choose to do fire camp, which is. Yeah. To like help out your case or maybe get early releases and stuff like that. But you're not working as a firefighter. Yeah, you are. You're jumping literally like in the middle of the pouring out of planes. Yeah. I would think that that would be a laugh, but it means that you have to spend time around people who are no good. So therefore it's not cool. Exactly. Exactly. You know that all, all, once you know that. But it's a way for you to work time off your sense. Exactly. It ain't nothing wrong with it. That's why he went his route. It is what it is, but it's just like, he's over here claiming the set. Like he's still good. He's still around. No, you ain't. You was not around. He was not in the hood. Like none of that. And you got to look at people differently now after you told me that. I didn't know. Um, but it's different for different hoods. Like, I know like certain black hoods, like they, like, you know, they, they move different. Like, for my hood, we don't, we don't play that shit. That's basically good as a PC piece of shit. But his internet presence had nothing to do with like why you feel that way is literally just that. Nah, that's why I would have felt that way even with him not being known and none of that. Like, you know, like it was like that from the jump. He just came up out of nowhere. Do you feel like he's embarrassing? Most definitely. Like when he's claiming the city, like, you know, representing, but that's what he's representing. And yeah, it's bad. It looks bad for us. And that, that, that was the main thing that I would get a lot of because at the end of the day, like, I'm not going to like give me the crown for the city, but I'm known in my city. Like, so they see this or nor like this nor like that. Like, oh, this, he's from your hood. Like what? Like what's up with him? Like, man, I don't even know this clown. Like, but he's no good. Like he ain't there. I never seen him. Damn my life. So, you know, that's how I see it. But they, they, they, they, they looking at me because they're like, this is your homie. This is your homie from your hood. How is you letting this happen? Like, we don't even know where the f*** he's at. Well, yeah, because a lot of people that aren't familiar with the city and stuff, they're like, that might be their first glimpse of what they see. And so they're like, Oh, okay. Exactly. And that was the thing. He started blowing up before I did. Right. Like I still was making music at the time. That's why when people would like tell me about it, I'm like, I don't know about that. Like, I care less. Like, when did you first rap? Start like, like people are like, okay, this will get off. He can spit. Like when I dropped the dumb gang, uh, dumb gang bang. It was the Boulevard. The Boulevard babies remix. Yeah. The Boulevard baby remix. Yeah. So that was a lefty gun player remix. I mean, I know it's really like West Side Connection. Yeah. It was like Ice Cube beat. Yeah. But yeah. But he, so he flipped that and it went up and it like a lot in the video, you know what I'm saying? Like super activated, you know, all that. But I thought you were supposed to get on a song with, with lefty from that. Yeah. I was a, we actually did have a song. It was a, he had dropped the song by himself. Originally he had gave me the song. He had gave me two songs, but he mainly wanted, wanted me to hop on that one. Right now it's out as ETA. That's the song I was supposed to be on. But he has sent it to me. He was telling me like, you know, this is how much I do for my features, but I got you. Throw that on your album and we good. Like, so I'm like, all right, I make my album. I'm getting my shit all done. And right when I'm about to drop my album, he drops his album and he drops that song. So I hear it like on a real, like it was probably like a week after he drops his album. And I hear it. And I'm like, you know, like, what the fuck? That's the same song. I'm thinking he put me on it. I'm not even on it. He changes the name to it. I'm not running. So I'm like, He took you off your own song. Well, it was his song to begin with. It was his song. He just threw me on a feature. Like he was just, but he was giving me the song. He literally said, put this on your album. Like, so that's, that's giving somebody a song, you know, like, so I seen it as that. So when he, I have seen it posted, I'm all like, what the fuck? Like, but my manager was, he was saying, like, you know, we could still do it. It'll be as a remix though. Like, I'm like, but he, he's not, he's not telling me nothing. He didn't tell me he was going to post it. None of that shit. So I'm thinking, you know, like, like, not like, so I was just, I made my own decision. And I said, like, I'm not going to put that shit out there. Like, I like, at the end of the day, he didn't, he posted it and he changed the name to it. So I'm not going to go out there and just, you know, I don't need this cloud. Like, I don't need no, Did you reach out to him? I did. That was the thing. I reached out to him. That's why I never put it past him because at the end of the day, I was still thinking in my mind, it was his manager that did it. Like, he don't know what's going on. He was in rehab at the time. So I'm thinking, you know, they need something to drop. Oh, they got this. He probably don't even know that we're conversating and said, oh, here, hop on this song. So I never put it past him. So that's why I took the choice and said, I'm not going to post it. I'll wait until he tells me something. Oh, like, oh, I got another song or yeah, do put it as a remix and stuff like that. So that's why I didn't take it, I didn't take it personal. I just, you know, I took it as just. So it's no hard feelings? No, that's why it ain't no hard feelings, but it's just if it was meant that way, then, you know, we won't know until he says something. That's a pretty mature perspective. Super mature. But I mean, but at the same time, weren't you like, did your manager have to like, because you're like in between the worlds of fighting these cases, you know, allegedly gang banging and all that and making it as an artist. And that could be kind of frustrating when you think you have something that's going to be a big change in your career. And then that's why like, I seen it as opportunity, you know, like, you know, he got a name for himself, he got his bus going on like he and that's what he was trying to do. He was trying to help me out, but it was just at the end of the day, it was posted. I didn't know what was going on. He didn't tell me. So it was just, let me just, let me just put it to the side for now, you know, and that song, a lot of people do it. Like I got a lot, a lot of love from it, but it was, it was, it never got put out published. Interesting. So, uh, damn, does that kind of turn you off to like doing songs with bigger artists? I mean, Loki did for a minute, it did. Like after that, I wasn't really doing a lot of features. Like, because I was just like, you know, like a lot of people were expecting it. I was posting it, like everything. And then when, when I dropped my album, like, where's that song at? Like, you know, like how to take it off, you know? So I didn't really do features with a lot of people. So was your, when you got shot, yeah? You got four times? Twice. Twice. Twice. I had four surgeries. Four surgeries, that's what I meant. Thank you. Two different incidents or? No, no, no, same incident. All of it, same incident. Was that was after like the music started popping off? No, it was before. It was before. It was like probably like right before, like I got shot and then after I got out to hospital probably like two, three months after that, I started like rapping. What was like, was that like the most traumatic thing you would experience? I'm pretty sure, yeah? No, definitely not. Hell no. I'm losing my pops with. Okay. Yeah. That was nothing. I already knew that was coming one day. So where were you actually at when you got shot? Shit, I was in the enemies at the time. I was moving shit back and forth from, because at the time my pops had passed. Two weeks before I got shot, my pops had passed. So I'm moving everything from my pops pad to my mom's pad. So I'm going back and forth, but going back and forth, I'm going from Santa Fe Springs to Norwalk. So I got to go through my enemies, whatever. I'm not tripping and just one thing led to another, you know, like wrong time. I wasn't even paying attention. Like I was, I was lacking. You were just driving? Yeah, I was driving. It was me, my baby mama and then one of the homies. And you're not thinking that anybody's like watching your whip? No, that's the thing. Like we're just driving and I guess they seen us. They just seen us without us knowing. You're riding fishbowl like windows open type shit. Yeah. Yeah. That's the thing. And that was the thing. I was at that. I think about it. My pops had just passed. I wasn't even like, I was just like, let me just move. Like I had a big ass 72 inch inside a box car. Moving that shit to my mom's pad. And you got hit in the leg and the stomach or what was it? No, I got hit in the hip and then under my armpit. Okay. And you were able to just drive to the hospital? Well, no, my baby mama was driving and I was passenger and they got us from the passenger side. Oh, so she didn't get hit? No, she didn't get hit. But that was the thing. It was like, I don't know what I was thinking. I guess like, and that was the thing. I still don't remember like the shit. I did. I thought it was a whole different situation. I thought I was in my hood with different homies. When I got shot, I woke up thinking like, Oh, where's this food? Like how is he like, you know, like what the fuck? Are you in the hospital type shit? Yeah. I woke up in the hospital. I don't even remember what the happened. Like people had to tell me what the happened. Well, type shit. Like, yeah, it was like, and the doctors told me that like, yeah, it was so traumatic that like you see different things. Like, like, so that's what it was. Like I literally was thinking a whole different situation. But my baby mama, she had like, she was fine. So she drove me to the hospital. Shots of her for that. Yeah, that's crazy. They said if it wasn't for her bringing me to the hospital or waiting for ambulance, I'd probably been dead. And that was the thing I did. Like, well, you could say my heart stopped four times. Like, shit, I shouldn't be here. Like, yes, you should. Do you know how long you were under? Like when you were in the hospital? I know when I got to the hospital, I was gone. Like I was done, lifeless. And then they bring, they put me into the hospital. They attached me to shit. They bring me out and I was still out. I guess they bring me back on the way to the other hospital, the St. Francis. They bring me back in the ambulance. The fibrillator. Yeah. And so how long in the hospital after you got shot? I was in there for like three weeks. Damn. And so what are you thinking about during that time period that kind of led to you rapping? Man, when I was in the hospital, I swear, like, I wasn't worried about nothing but my pops. Like, I wanted to go to his grave site. Like, that's all I, like, right when I woke up, I was like, pops. Like, what the fuck? That was the only reason, I feel like that was the only reason why I woke up. Like, shit, that shit. That shit. That was all I was worried about. And that was the first thing literally right when I got out the hospital. I went straight to the cemetery. But so you're fighting for your life and you're not even really thinking about surviving. You're just thinking about your father who had just passed? Yeah. And that was the thing. I was just trying to get out of there. Like, I was in that bitch. Like, they, like, you know how they got to do like the physical stuff. Like, oh, we got to help you walk again, whatever. Physical therapy. Exactly, yeah. So I was doing all that shit and they're like, do you feel nauseous? Do you feel like you're about to pass out? I'm like, nah, I feel fine. I feel fine. I'm good. Every day I'll tell them that. Every feeling that they told me I felt. But I was just trying to get out of there. Like, I'll be walking. You're like lying. Like, oh yeah, my foot has motion. I feel like that's not good. I was just trying to get out of there though. And even my mom seen it. Like, she was like, bro, you're not okay. Like, you need to stay in here as long as possible. But so you weren't thinking about rapping when you were in there? No, no, that was the last thing I was thinking about. At the time, I wasn't even really rapping as much. I was just making songs here and there. Like, when I got shot, I swear, I wasn't rapping. It wasn't nothing. I didn't even... Listen up. Huh? That means you. Yes, you. We know you're pointing at yourself. When it comes to party power games, we've got a place made for all sorts. From the experts to the drama queens. It's May the JC. The finance bros. Look at those stocks, lads. We'll stick with slots. It's what we're good at. And not forgetting you. Yes, you, the one listening. Because at party power games, we've got all sorts of games for all sorts of trickles. Eligibility rules in terms of conditions apply. Please come by responsibly. AtomPlus, CamelAware.org. I think I was going to be rapping. But so then you get out and then like a month or two later, you really start rapping? Like, what was it? Yeah, like a month or two later, like, I had a song that I had already made. So I just recorded that shit, like just me freestyling it on the phone. And people started with it. Like, they were like, oh, that's just hard. You need to go to the studio for that shit. And I did. I made that shit in the studio and that shit got loved. And that's, that, that, that just gave me motivation to get like, you know, like, just try this shit out. You know, and I did because that's, that's it to look where it took me, you know. But you have a really natural ability, like your voice, your presence on the mic. It sounds so like, like you're meant to do it. Like, no homo. Yo, he do be on that though. Yeah, yeah. Yes, did he. Yes, did he. So like fools weren't already telling you the homies weren't already like encouraging you like, damn, you might could have something there. Like, yeah, that was the main ones that were like telling me when I first started rapping was the homies. Like the homies like a food like you could you could do something with that like food like ain't nobody. And that was the thing at the time there was no one really rapping like in our city, like from our, our section. There's not too many like famous rappers. Yeah. And even at that time, like even rapping, like any youngsters, none of that. Like, like I had a homie, a outro, he was doing it. And he was like the only one at the time, like really rapping until I started to do my shit. There's other, you know, pretty well known people from Southeast LA though, like Swiftie Blue. He's pretty controversial. Like, what do you think about Swiftie? Like I said last time, no comment. I tried to catch you this time. What? So wait, you asked him about it during this vlog that you guys did. Yeah. And when did you do that? A couple of days ago. Yeah, like a week ago. Oh, okay. So it's not out yet. Got it. Damn. And so what were you wrote in the notes that his ops pulled up right when you started the hood vlog? No, it wasn't even ops. It was just some little ass kids just saying shit. Like these little ass kids passed by and they were like, oh, you fools. Like, and it just took off. Like, but I had my homies go and that's why we're always like, let's go over here. Like, let's just be in the like, in, in the. That's what was really impressive to me at him is that like, so how organized it was. Cause like some, some other guys came up, they said some things or whatever. And then Sporty CK so casually was like, Hey, you guys. And then other guys went in a car and just made sure that whatever disrespect was far away from us. And we continued the vlog. But these kids talking shit were just. Yeah, like, like, I know who it was. It's some little ass. Like little bullshit ass kid. Like, but they were like, they were just like around, you know, like that's why we're like, Oh, I wasn't even worried. But we didn't know that until after the fact we're thinking like these are some other foods. I tell us it looks serious. Why the fuck ops was sliding? You should do the Swifty Blue move and go to their high school and trip on him. He told me that's not actually what happened, but I love that narrative so much when that was in the news. Like present false. I mean, there was footage of him getting like arrested at the school where it's a bit. Yeah, I don't care about the facts. I'm just rolling with the funniest. Exactly. Yeah, whatever's the most entertaining. So although like you're like one of the first people to be super prominent as an emcee as a rapper from Norwalk. Was there anyone from the cello period that kind of inspired you? Uh, no one really inspired me from my city. Like, I feel like I just did my own shit. Like that's that's literally all I because I when I would make music, I would make it for me. Like I would make it because I liked it. That's just sounds hard or like the homies to bump like while we're riding around because we wouldn't have like hood music. Like the only hood music that we had at the time was like little quit. They're like we'll bump little right. Yeah, we'll bump a lot of little quit. They're shit, you know, like also quit. Yeah, but like so Chicano rap was like really different back in the day or like what people call Chicano rap. It was a very specific genre, but nowadays it's like way more blended than there's like you guys. Like it's like LA rap now. Yeah, yeah. You know, like drink or rap shit type shit, you know, like. So was was Draco like a big influence? I feel like yeah, Draco. I feel like Draco inspired a lot of people. Like I feel like I listen to his music a lot a lot when I was growing up. So I feel like yeah, he was probably one of the ones that had an inspiration. I feel like mainly was was like pay so Bravo, you know, was like that. Like I grew listening to pay so and I could relate to a lot of his music. So when you listen to your music or anything about your style, do you feel like you make music that is like Mexican and nature or is it just like this is rap music to you and you don't really. Yeah, I feel like yeah, it's like that. I necessarily don't make it for like like because I don't I don't call myself like a Chicano rapper. Like because I don't I feel like I don't make Chicano music. There's a difference to it. Hard street rap. Like exactly like just gang banging music, you know, like that's as I see it. Like do you feel like I say it should not say the n-word or you think it's like 2026 and that's not. I feel like we know the meaning to it. Like I feel like if it comes to the like the ER that's different. No, people say it all the time like brother, you know, like stuff like that in that meaning towards it. So but I know for essays, it's harder like to say it because you know, like prison and shit like that, you know. But yeah, yeah, like the back then, you know, like but that's why I try to I try. I don't say it in my music now. Like because I know like I'm a essay rapper, you know, like I can't be saying shit like that. So and that did it. It helped me out a lot. Like because when I would say it like like at the time I wasn't, you know, I wasn't buzzing like right when I made the first song without them. We're in that shit went up. So like you think that was a part of why? Because that's like a lot of people were like talk about the fact this 40 like doesn't say because you I think you did earlier, right? Like in your first couple songs. Yeah, like in my first few songs, I did say it like, you know, but it. So you think you're not saying that was like a catalyst for your success? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I feel like it helped out helped out a lot like with my career. Like and I had to realize it too because at the end of the day, I would have homies from my hood even tell me about it. Like, hey, for you need to stop saying that shit. Like we S is homie like you say homie, essay, full, bottle. But like, you know, don't be saying that shit. And you know, like, and yeah, I may slip up and say it, but it says, you know, it's never like with the intention of, you know, racism or none of that, you know. It's more about Mexican pride rather than being like, I'm worried about offending black people. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And that's why I just stopped saying it in my songs, like mainly specifically in my songs because it helps me out and it shows some type of respect, you know. Yeah. I mean, my whole life, like I'm just so used to like every Hispanic artist I ever listened to basically saying it for sure. I definitely get the argument that it's kind of like, hey, if we're supposed to be like proud of being Mexican, why are we going to say a word that is so obviously not black culture, like all the time and make that a part of our identity. Like I understand that logic. But then it's like you go to places like Texas and they don't go. Yeah, the Rossa out there, I'll be saying it like just as much as the bike will do basically. Yeah. Yeah, that's it. It's exactly that reason though. It's just where they grew up at, you know. When did you get that insanely heavy headed head tat bro? Damn. I got this right when like literally the same day I shot Dove gang bang, I got this tattoo. Oh, for real? Yeah, the same day, the same day I like it was for that's why in the music video you see it like it's freshly inked like. Yeah, damn near looks swollen. Yeah, it was all fucking. I got a photo of it for the people out there. Yeah. That's shit hard. But so that's not a blase tattoo. No, it was never with the intention of like, you know, I didn't even know about nothing personal when I got it. I seen it as a tattoo like somebody got it on the side of their head and I was like, oh, that's hard. Like for the meaning for me is normal primos, you know, like that's what it stands for for me. So when I got it with the intention and then he happened to get to his eyes and he seen it. He was like, hey, yo, what the fuck is this? I looked at his page, start seeing the brand. I'm like, damn, this is a hard ass brand. And he's from the cellar too. Yeah, he's from the cellar and he was telling me about that. So I was just like, what? Like, you know, that's love. And then he even he even gave me some of the merch like he gave me like Jack ishers, some pans, like a bell, and you know, like he showed love. Yeah. And it was all because of the tat, you know, like. But yeah, that's it. Right when I saw that music video. Now, being a being a homie, do you feel like it's kind of limiting that can't like going on tour in certain places might be dangling? I mean, I mean, are you down to do shows? Cali or Washington? Yeah, I'm down to go anywhere. I'm down to go anywhere. Like if the money's right, I'm there. Like, you know, I don't care where it is now necessarily involving myself with them. Now I'll never put myself in that situation. Like, yeah, I'll go perform whatever do my thing. That's it. Like making music with them. I never I'll never do that. Definitely. But do you feel like you can go all the way up north and perform? I mean, I mean, yeah, it's gonna I feel like it'll happen one day in my career. I feel like it's bound to happen if this is what I want. But so you don't hold it against the fans that they're from up north? No, I feel like I feel like I got more in there. Yeah, like, I'll go. Yo, I mean, we see Tommy going up there and performing. But then it feels like he's getting in situations left and right. But they don't seem like situations that he has to be getting into. Like he could very easily move a little bit more of a controlled way. Yeah, yeah. But I feel like problems come if there's reasons to everything. Well, it feels like mad dogging while you're performing. You can say, right? Exactly. Dillable, you know, like you can deal with that. But like now, like if you're outside and you're on your own or whatever and they're right there, you can't do nothing about it, but stand your own ground. For sure. But so just to ask more about the head tattoo, when you got it, you just do like one session for that whole one on the top? Yeah, I did this one all one session. I just had to go retouch up because it was like it was patching and stuff. And when I had did the touch up, I had that added the lettering on the inside. Okay. Yeah, so but I did that shit all one, this one all one. Did you get loaded to do it? No, just weed in a nickpin. Threes and Nick. Yeah, for real. If I was going to get a tattoo like that, for sure. I thought the same shit. I was like, I need a whole nose tank next to me, but I was chilling. Is the nose good to get tattooed? I feel like it would be just numb your whole body. Well, but the one thing is like anybody that has like super heavy-handed like fear may head placas like that, it's like loud, right? When you get it, it sounds super loud, right? Right here, like when I got the back tat this year, it would hurt. Oh yeah, for sure. Your head is the worst because it's like, all right, if you're getting like an arm tattoo, you got all this fat and muscle over the bone. And this is just like a thin layer of skin and then skull. And it's just, you just. But I feel like this, these ones weren't even my painful. I feel like my most painful one was the one on my back. That one was my worst. Yeah, I always hear about the back being terrible, but. Yeah, that one hurt. To me, the outline is chill is when they start doing the show. Especially his shit because it's so dark. It's just giant patches of black. Now this one hurt. This one hurt. This one. I thought I wasn't going to make it through the whole session. And that's the Worldstar logo too. With this nice Maserati logo. Oh shit, okay. I think it's pretty close. Worldstar rewrites. They did, right? Yeah, okay, okay. Definitely. So you feel like you're going to get like more crazy tattoos. You're going to do your face and shit or not? No, I feel like I won't touch my face. I feel like my face is, you know, like my money maker. Like a pretty boy rapper or not? No, I won't call myself that. But you want the girls to be able to appreciate your look. The bitches is going to come. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. My ex-forehead. Hello hoes before he got locked up. Well, like you're in a relationship, right? No. Like you're going to be behind it? Okay. How much has your quotient improved since? My boy, it comes and goes though. Yeah? Yeah, but that's not what I'm looking for. Shit. I'm worried about my money and my music. Shit. And my baby. I feel like you're in these scooms out here. No. I ain't fucking just fuck, fuck no. But you are like, do you feel like hood chicks or you're like, what are your fangirls? I don't know. You're like too new to it to know that you've seen that side of it? I mean, I don't know. Like, I'm going to say like, yeah, I am new to it because I just got out of like a long relationship, but shit for the time, damn it. It's been great. What can I say? Well, so is your heart still broken? My heart was never broken. It was never, what? Nah, it was just, you know. Are you sure? Are you sure? Your heart's got to hurt after that breakup like that. There was an icebox where it's hard used to be. Nah, there's pain that comes with it, but you ain't going to talk about it. I'm a man at Tennessee. You feel me? Smile now cry later? Type shit. Nah, man, we ain't on that John Wayne shit. We got to let it out. Love one. You can't let it out for it. Nah, but yeah. Bitches are not worried about they don't come. Do you feel like, um, so there's, there was a few lists that came out in the past couple of years, like, and they were like mentioning the top 50 and I saw rappers. I was pushing hard for you to get on that food community list. Um, a lot of people had certain people had objections to that. Do you feel like you were overlooked? Nah, because, uh, I think they did have me on it. Like, but it was just, I was like far in the ranks lower than I wanted. Uh, I mean, people were going to have their opinions. I feel like, uh, I feel like I should have probably been farther back. Like, I was thinking, I was, I haven't did enough, you know, like, so that's why I'm like, I took it to the gym. I was like, damn, I appreciate where it was. I was just surprised to be on it. That's how I seen it. Definitely. What's it been like though, just having that reaction to your music and having people like start treating you like you're, like you really matter like such a short period of time? You know, like, I love it. Like, I love when I get like, uh, shown love in public and shit like that. In front of my peoples, you know, it's cool. Like, but it sometimes it, it, it do put a tome because I think I'm a gang member. So sometimes it would be another gang member recognizing me and I don't know if they mind a me goal or they just a fan. Okay. So you've had that situation? Hell yeah. I'm sure just happened. I think I posted that shit. Now I went to, uh, what is it? I went to a clothes store. It was like, uh, it was just out the city and I'm walking in, I'm walking in with my baby mama and there's two foods. They just, they, they recognized me. I already seen it on their face. Like they knew me something, you know, they just a fan, whatever. But one of them, they had like that spook face and I already knew like, so I passed by and I'm like, what's good? Like, you know, whatever. And all the, all he said was one word. That's all he said was one word. There's one thing that's like this. Yeah. That's what it was. All it took was one word. He tried to say it again. He didn't even get it out of his mouth. And so all of a sudden you're just fighting in the clothes store. Yeah. And I got the video too. The owner sent me it. The owner did. The owner. Yeah. Cause he has a page and after he followed my Instagram, he was like, Hey, like that's it. Like that show was funny. Like you did your shit. Like he's like, you want the video? I was like, I said that shit. That's his owner. Again, I'll fight here. I'm going to be stressing. Yeah. I'm definitely not sending you the video. You can make a Instagram post. No, but that was the thing. I didn't even post it on my page. Like I think I just sent it to some random shit. Have you had any Shmigos hit you up and be like, you know what? I don't put you, but I actually like your music, dude. Nah, Loki. I feel like that hops Amy did like, they hear my shit, turn that shit off. Like, I feel like that's how much they hate me. Your videos have been pretty controversial too. I'd be like, do you feel like that brought like more attention from the hood on shit? Most definitely. I feel like for some of my cases, they're trying to use someone actually against me. Do they not understand freedom of speech? Yeah, exactly. Like you're just an artist doing artistic expression? Yeah, exactly. But aren't you? It's all for entertainment. Are you actually going in to do a bit? Yeah, I am. For sure probably going to do like over a year. Wow. Okay. And when do you think you're going in? About like two months. Damn. Yeah, I'm big on. So is that stressing you out? I mean, yeah, it's been stressful, but it's just, you know, it is what it is. At the end of the day, I can't do nothing about it. Right. Take it to the gym. Damn. Is it going to be a county later? Are you going to go to the pinta? I don't know. I'm hoping I get a county. So it's like the 50, you know, but whatever I get, what I get. So in the meantime, you're trying to make as much as you can. That's why I've been trying to do as much as I can while I'm out here. So while I'm in there, I can at least make some type of money and have shit to drop while I'm in there. So that's what I've been on. You're getting more comfortable with interviews because I know at first you did not like doing that shit at all. I still don't. I still don't. But you know, it helps out with my career. They want to know about the P. So you have to like kind of practice getting used to communicating more. Yeah. And that was a thing. Like I was never really the type to talk, you know, like I'll talk in my music. Now I got to talk to people. Does it feel kind of like a police interrogation though? Yeah. I feel like all the time it does. I feel like every interview because I feel like there's the main ones watching my shit. Right when that shit goes click on that shit. Hey, the first viewers. Yeah. So that's why I try to. But you already like kind of know the stuff that you don't want to talk about. Yeah. Like if if if lush is like, Hey, so tell me how many hats you got. You got to be able to be like, No, man, I don't wear hats besides this hat. I love the Yankees hat. You see, you know, you navigated all the way around that 50 blue questions. So like, yeah. Yeah. And he's not even media trained, but he's still a lot of do it like on some just holding it down. I'm learning. I'm learning as I go. Because would you ever rap beef with a rapper? Would you ever like really go back and forth doing this song? Like, I mean, I don't see entertainment in that. I mean, like, I feel like it could happen. I feel like, but if it was the right, but you're not going to go back and forth or just like, I'll probably say some shit in a song, but like, it won't be. Like, it won't be necessary. Like, put their name on the whole title and shit, like, you know, necessarily about them, you know, like, I'll just say some slick shit. That's what I was about to say. You're known to me like the CK and slick is sporty CK because you have a lot of bars where it's not, you have to kind of know you got it. Yeah. You know, you know, if you know, like that's what it is. But if you do know, they brutal. Yeah. That's why. That's why some of my songs, like, I feel like mainly like my enemies hate the song, AK Official, like they hate that song. Like they know why too. Like there's bars and they're like. Because of what the A stands for? Yeah. Yeah, but. Just as what it is, you don't have any, like you're going to keep putting hood dishes and your music and everything like that. I mean, I tried not to like recently, like I've been trying not to, but I feel like that's what I am. Like I've been doing that since I started rapping. Like I'm not going to change it for nobody. Do you feel like at a certain point that kind of might restrict your growth though? Because. Yeah, I feel like that's what that's that's the difficulty with the like labels and shit like that, because they look at it as like a liability. Like we're taking the chance of putting him on our label with the chance of like, you know, he's possible. He could go to jail. He could get shot. You know, he could get killed and so forth. Like shit like that, you know. So yeah, it's, I know it does put a like a toll on me with that, but. It's crazy because it's like, you know, I love E.B.K. J-Bos music and he's somebody who's definitely at the level where he does not have to dis his ops anymore. And you know, obviously he's locked up now, but like till the very end, every song was blood and guts. And here's the people I don't like. And that's the thing. Yeah, it's just, it's just how he is. Like, you could try to make some other shit, but it's just you can't when it's not real. Like some people can, but. Being from like a super traditional vario, like you in like area like Norwalk, was there people that were kind of even against you rapping period? Because you know what I'm saying? Like, like, oh, you should be doing Coritos or you should be doing, you know what I'm saying? Not necessarily. No, I never like that. They never tripped on like, I feel like a lot of people were pushing me more to do it. Like, you got to keep putting music out there for like, you got to let the hood be known. Like, you know, yeah, I never, I never really had that. If you don't make rap music, like if nobody from your neighbor makes rap music, that's going to really like limit the potential voice, you know, like anybody from a neighborhood who really gets any level of popularity, rap man becomes like the voice box for the community to the extent, you know. And exactly. That's what I've been looked at. And everything I put out is like, as a outlook to my city, you know, like, that's how they are going to be my city. Because that's a lot of that's a lot on your shoulders because like, you're a trophy for your section, which already got a lot that comes with it even before you were rapping. Yeah, exactly. I mean, then you start rapping and that puts a bunch more on it. And then now your entire city, damn near your entire aria, you know what I'm saying? Like, did you do feel pressure? Does that inspire you? No, it inspires me more just to keep going because like, at the end of the day, like, I don't see no one else doing this, like, for my city. Like, so if I ain't doing it, then who the fuck is going to do it? You know, it's crazy though, because you were saying like the thing about not putting your ops name in the title of a song or whatever like that. But like this morning when I was in the gym, I just searched up Tommy Gunn's put on his shit, fourth song, boom, it's his ops dissing him, but they got his name in the title. So it just automatically gets suggested. And I'm like, damn, that is one YouTube hack that still works. Algorithm? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The algorithm basically like thinks it's a song by that. Yeah. It's crazy. And that's the thing, if I could do that, like, and I know it'll give me some, some type of attraction because of it, but. It's a weird look. Yeah, you got to put it in there and then take it out after a couple of months. It's like, oh, they dig too much. Or put it in the tag so nobody can see it. That might work. Do you feel like the internal beefing just because of like hood politics really holds back like, like, you know, Rasa rappers from coming together and reaching higher heights? I don't know. I just feel like the gang banging shit is watered down now. Like, like, because people will be kicking with rats, you know, all types of shit. And they won't even know just because they're a rapper and she know, like, so that's why I try to, I try to know who I'm messing with before I try to like, like further my career with them. Like, if they around me, they got to be certified officials, shit like that, you know, like. What are your thoughts on like the fact that nowadays we see way more Mexican fools that are in Crip and Blood gangs than ever before and they're not just interviewing South Siders? I feel like it's not a, it's not a problem. Like if their hood allows it, then their hood allows it. It's just, you know, if they grew up there, then that's what they grew up about. Because that's the thing, we got some blacks that grew up in the section, but it's just like, you ready for what comes with it? Like, because still at the end of the day, we got homies that are still like, that still have that type of opinion towards it, you know, but we have no say so over it because they're their own man, you know, at the end of the day. It's just they got to be ready for what comes with it. Well, that just comes from like, because back in the day, there was way more racial tensions. So, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. That's why some, some do have that mindset. But so if you're a black South Sider and you end up in jail, is it going to be tough for you? Or I mean, yeah, I feel like, I feel like if you run with a S like run Mexican, then you're running with us and yeah, we're going to stand by you. But I know for a fact it's going to be harder because then they going to look at you. Yeah. Like some different, like, you know. So it's just you're going to have that on your back. They're going to for sure be confused when you sit at a certain table or like, exactly. Yeah. But then eventually then be like, hey, it is what it is. But yeah, I feel it. So what what what like what are you working on right now? If you're going in in a couple of months, the plan just to like record as much music as possible. So you can just drop crazy while you're gone. Yeah. Right now I'm just trying to like exactly like just drop as much music as I can make me as much music as I can. So I could drop while I'm in there and like and do as much like a I guess you could say like content and shit. Like just to put my name out there to get as much like, you know, what's the word for up a digital footprint. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Before I go in, you know, so like when I come out, they go, oh shit, like no way. I think you should do a 20 v one to see which one of these hoses. I'll do that shit. 10 pal 20 v one for spokesman. Come on, man. Let's make it happen. But you got to tell the 20 verse one guy like, hey, don't bring me no bunk ass girls. All tortas. All tortas. Because they're the ones that are going to take care of you. Yeah. Pretty busy. Take care of you. Yeah. While you locked up, you need a good tour. That's really what they're good for. You got me right. I'm not going to mention the rapper's name, but we've seen one recently married. A super. Super tortoise crazy. Yeah. Like one of the sandwiches that's like that would know those are the long ones. The lasagna. So what you like fat girls or no. No, I'm not. You can't really go for that. You ain't really experienced a BBL yet. I mean, no, no, or not. I have. Oh, you have. But I don't know. Didn't feel right. You don't feel right. Don't feel natural. You know, like you got to get the right one. You only mess with Latinos. You never mess with white girls or black girls. My baby mama's a white girl. Okay. But she's from like around your way. She's from my city. Okay. She's a white girl, but she burnt out. Yeah. She's for sure. Definitely. Most definitely. She acts like ass. Is her name. Is her name. Weta. Spans. Oh, do you think you'll sleep with a black woman before you die? I don't know. Like I have no problems with them, but I just don't see myself, you know, but Lotto wants to bust it down on you. You're not going to like skin though. Like is it like I love me a light skin. I don't know. I don't know. I feel like what comes. You wouldn't be against it, but it is kind of hard for you to imagine. Yeah, exactly. Just ending up with one in general. Yeah, exactly. I feel like. Peso got a black baby mama. So, you know, Peso. When I really think about it, I don't think I slept with a black girl until I was like late twenties. You don't know what you're missing. Trust me. But it was the first girl that I slept with like a fake ass and fake tits. We're not first fake tits, but like she had all the surgery. Like I'm talking like 2010. Before it was like super popular. It's like so normal now. I felt like I had hit the lottery. Was that one of like that? Was that like that was was that a life changing moment for a young player? I'm going to say it was life changing, especially because I figured out that a bunch of my other homies had already. But I was still pretty geeked. I would have been just like, Hey, you know, like fake titties. I got to look her up, but I feel like she has such a common name that I'm not going to be able to look her up. We don't find her. I'll help you Adam. What's her name? Who's like the hottest Mexican chick? Like in like in terms of like celebrities or whatever, like or high enough rappers could be a rapper, could be a model. I don't know. Okay, let's do this. Mary kill. All right. Mary kill. P killer. Jenny six nine. And the rapper. Bella the rapper. He knows he knows. I think you brought it through here. How's the tough one? Mary kill brother. Damn. I'll probably kill P killer. Yeah, I'll probably kill P killer because she's P killer. I don't know. Then I'll Jenny six nine. And then he's bearing Bella the rapper. She looks, she looks wiping material. That's why she never know. If you don't pay what she said. My name. All right. I respect the answer. I want to say P killer personally, but. Nah, she pretty hell. Yeah. No, I only said that because you P killer. Like I got a killer. Yeah. She's kind of cute, but she's like overexposed. So she got to die. Whoa. I mean, this is Mary kill. It's like, yeah, in the context. One third of the people involved in this have to die. So I mean, number one, you've been Texas. So yeah, that's not a good thing. Yeah. And I mean, Jenny from Riverside. So the same. Yeah, it's worse. But, um, but yeah, I mean, P killer, she got to die. No. She's gonna buy promo. I'm 22. Yeah. He killed is to die. She got to die. If so, Mary Jane was in the equation with that kind of change. The dynamic here. You know, she is. No. Yeah. You know, yeah, I'll probably, I'll probably leave her in the same category. She don't hang out with P kill anymore. No, they, they ops. Okay. P killer performed a diss track in front of her like on stage. This is insane. Yo, that's fire. Cause you would never see dudes do that. Right. Yeah. I'll do that. Yeah. But like your ops would have been pretty pathetic to just sit there and take it. Get through the first bar and then I say, yeah, you got to light that bitch up. Yeah. Imagine like this just becomes a shootout mid show. Like you got to throw a chair or something. Watch a man ready savage type shit. Do you, uh, do you feel like your success is, is motivating your ops to start rapping as well? Oh yeah. I feel like I started rapping and then like a few of the enemy goes, they started rapping right after me. And I feel like the shit I'll never hate anybody like they, they had some more shit. Like shit, but it ain't harder than mine. In the whole area. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Innovator. Yeah. And that was a thing when I dropped, when I dropped one of my songs, like we had the same beat and my shit went up. You got to do the grimy shit and get their shit taken down. Oh no, he did already. Oh you did? He didn't get it already. I was thinking about that cause uh, that's my beat. Cause Dream Life Rizzi has a song called EBK killer. And they got it taken down initially cause of the beat. Well, because it was like the 5k shit. Yeah. Yeah. And in this point. All they have is the video. Type beats are so crazy, especially like, now there's a sporty CK type beats. Yeah. Like the homies, like my artist is wrapped on sporty CK type beats. Like, like, how does that make you feel? Is that like damn, like, I'm using those shits too. Oh yeah. Do you feel like it? What do you, what do you feel like is different about the way you make music than all the other like rappers in LA, particularly the other essays? I'll be writing. Like I'm more of a writer. You don't punch. Yeah. Like a punch in type of guy. I'll be writing my shit. All of my best songs are written. I done songs too, where like I punched in, they bar for bar. But I feel like they're not my best. I feel like my best ones are when I'm sit down writing shit. You're like a one, you don't like to do like, you're like a one take rapper. Like if you have like, if you mess up, you're going to start the whole verse over. Yeah. Oh no, most definitely. That's why I like to go in the studio with my shit fully written, where I just go up in there and make my song and boom. I'm not wasting time in there. Like, you know, but definitely pretty treacherous videos though, bro. You got to say some of the most treacherous in LA. Yeah, definitely. Have you thought at all about doing music with black artists to kind of expand your fan base? Yeah. Yeah. I've been doing music with like, I got a song with the, he's with the management, BZ2 Janky. Oh yeah. Yeah, I got a song. I'm about to drop that. As soon as I saw that though, I was like, oh, for sure he's got a beef with the dudes that pressed him in the one hood block. They're from all other areas. Oh, okay. I was just assuming. Yeah, yeah. That's why I think those people were like from avenues essentially. Right. Yeah. But that's not nothing to do with it. No, no, no. That's not. Did you think that was out of the logic? That was weird. That was, that was sketched for sure for all sides, you know, like, I feel like that was set up. Like, you know. Do you feel, do you feel like Rodney set it up or? I feel like somebody set it up. I ain't gonna throw no blame. No, I'm not trying to diss Rodney and any of you guys. I feel like somebody set it up because there's, there's no way that she just randomly happens to happen, you know, like, and just those pop up banging in Chinatown. I'm like, yeah, exactly. You know, like some shit had to be said for them to be right there. What are, as far as like outside of, outside of like LA, what we see like in, with a lot of gangster and drill rappers as they'll collab with fools from other regions, like Vaughn doing songs with E.B.K. J.Bow and things like that. Are there like, is there other fools like in different states and regions that you feel like it would be a sick collab? That I like haven't got one yet. Yeah. Like some fools from Florida or you film here in New York. Oh, like that. I never, damn, I never really looked outside of like other than like, like Cali rap, you know, like. Yeah, he totally is. But I just saw a whole video about New York South Siders. You feel me like Sir Daniels from New York. They got that. Yeah. There's a whole hood in Staten Island. You put a party up and oh yeah, I would, you know, be possibly an interesting to see your reaction to that or if that could be. I would like to see that. I never heard of that. That'd be crazy. Apparently there's homies out there holding it down. They're glued up from the shoe up too. So. It's a little ass island. It is a little island. Shut up. Shout out, so, okay, so what's your message to the people before we wrap this up? What do you want the world to know about you? Shit, I'm a good guy, dawg. No, but not like, I'm genuine, I do this shit for, with a passion, like, I'm doing this shit for my city, my baby, my pops, like, that's what I stand for and you all going to see that and, you know, it's just a matter of time where I'm going to be somewhere in life, you know, but. I give all glory to God. All praises to Jesus Christ. Let's get it, man. Sporty CK, I appreciate you pulling up and getting this interview in and much luck with your rap career, this little bid that you got to go do and everything else, man. Yeah, I appreciate that. Put money on the homies' books. Put money on the books. I need it. My guy went from you feeling getting shot, you know, getting, having big scars of being joined up and one of the most important rappers in the game. So show him some up straight up. My gang, we out. So, I appreciate you, bro. Sporty, shout out to Lush, No Jon Berk. Coolest podcast in the world. Check us on YouTube, TikTok, Instagram, all that shit, like, comment and subscribe and we will be reading the comments and shout out to all our members who got to see this early. Appreciate it, y'all.