EP 88: Catching Up With Caroline | 2 Addicts and a Moron Podcast

You want to watch some funny videos? His name, he's Bradley Sparks on Facebook. Okay, I think we're friends on that. Name sounds super familiar. He's his videos are fucking. He's the best. Like he's incredible because he has like four different characters that he dresses up as. So during the video, he'll be this person and then you'll switch to this person. And he's this person and like, I don't know. What do you call that? Switching person. It's like the girl who plays the Kardashian. She plays all of those. You know who I'm talking about? She's funny too. She hot. She's pretty. I think they all have their unique pretty quality to them. Kim used to come out. Built. I feel like Kim was the only naturally pretty one. Chloe does not. There's nothing natural about one of those. I think face wise. What's the sister's names? You got Chloe. Chloe. He's cute. Courtney is hot. But Kim and so Kindle, Kim, Chloe, Courtney and the lip one. The girl with the lips. I forgot her name. She has a baby with the rubber. Kylie. Kylie. Kylie. There we go. Now that we got that all squared away. Kim used to call me. We know who the fuck they are now. Yeah. Welcome back to another episode of two addicts and a motherfucking moron. But he skipped over that part. Yeah. She used to call me guys. Who did Kim? No, she didn't. Yeah, she did. Shut. We almost dated it. Don't ask her. She'll deny it. Yeah. She left like on bad. I'm sorry. We saw him the Kardashian. Yeah. He went back. He wanted to. He needed to tell this story. I go. Yeah. So. No, I know. Are you full of shit right now? He you have to be full of shit, but you look so serious. I can never tell if you're. Yeah. Not if you ask her if she knows me, she's going to deny it. We left on bad terms. Like she's like, I don't even know the fuck that is, but she does. I'll make sure to ask her the next time I run into her. Yeah. Marge. Yeah. Cam. No hard feelings. I love you. No, I've never met her. Bro, you can't do that. So good. Why? I went destiny. I feel sorry for you, bro. That was straight faced. Wow. I literally. Maybe I'll meet her now. You and you're not going to meet her now. Okay. No, I was about to say something. You I know what you were about to say. You're a terrible person. Yeah, she doesn't give a fuck. I remember recording. Okay. Well, that's this is where it all comes out. Is in here. I don't want to cancel. All right. So don't talk about my ex with that being said, ladies and gentlemen, we got a repeat guest in the house. She brought a child of hers and a baby. Yeah, like the baby was in her belly when she did our podcast and now the baby is like right over there. Uh huh. Yeah, beautiful. Beautiful little girl. Yeah. Yeah, we were hanging out with me and her. We were just chilling. That picture. It's cute. Yeah. It's cute. That's awesome. Well, Miss Caroline everybody. Hey. Yeah. So repeat guest. How have you been? I've been really, really good. I am grateful to not be pregnant anymore because that shit sucks. Yeah, I'm not a fan. Um, look, first of all, I had COVID. I understand what it is to give birth to a child. All right. It is. I had the same shit. They have to spice me open. She was born on Halloween though. So I got stabbed in my back before. Yeah, no big deal. No. Oh God. I can't wait to never do it again. Yeah. Yeah. Let me do it right now. Yeah. But other than that, I've been, I've been really good. Um, you know, working a lot, trying to get my family stuff together. I do have two kids here. One's a grown-ass man. Yeah. Who's about to say you got the spectrum of age. Yeah, literally, literally all ages. Literally started over. I know what the fuck. Oh, dang it. It was a great finish line to be at and then God had other plans, you know, but Caesar's a really good dad. I'm so, it's so crazy to see. It was already crazy to see him with my other kids. Yeah. I mean, actually that shit stresses me out sometimes. He had Brooklyn up the other day until like almost one in the morning on a school night because they were playing Fortnite. Nice. And I was like, what are you doing? No, no, like no cap there. Like he was like, Oh, it's fine. She'll, it's fine. I'm like, yeah, he needs his buddy to play with. Oh, they, they do it all the time and they all have. So my kids are so spoiled because they all have different devices. So Caesar will be on the Xbox. Brooklyn's going to be on the freaking whatever that Nintendo switch. I've got one. It's a problem. Both the boys have a play stations and then also computers. So they will like team up and I have to go lock myself in the room with the baby because they're all just gaming. I like how she said my kids are so spoiled. And the first one she mentioned was her husband. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. True though. It's true. He's just like, sometimes I'm like, God, what is wrong with you? I have to, I have to, I'm the oldest one in the house for sure. First of all, there's nothing wrong with Caesar. He also a guest on our show. Yeah. So I got your back Caesar. All right. You keep playing your fucking games. I've never been a gamer. I was during my addiction. I would play FIFA and then I would lose my shit when I would lose. I broke controllers all the time. I just don't play. No, they have a character on one of their games that they play with. That's like worth like $20,000. And I don't even know how you accumulate something like that. Have you ever seen the videos where they build their own character for years? Yeah. And then the girlfriend plays a prank on him where she deletes him. Oh my God. And they're like, what the fuck, bitch? Yeah. And it's like, it causes fucking separation. Because they've literally been working on this thing and spent money and gained money for it. Yeah. And it's acute like, he was a 99 rating. Yeah. Fucking God. Yeah. They have, they have all that stuff and I don't understand any of it. Yeah. I don't understand any of it. I hate when my kids are like, can we have roadblocks? I'm like, is it like money? Like, what are you going to do with this? Oh, I'm going to buy a skin. Like, what? Yeah. A skin? Yeah. One of their skins, I was like, why do you have it? It's like a unicorn backpack. And I'm like, what does that do? What is, what purpose? Do you spend $30 on that unicorn thing? He's like, it's my aura. Yeah. It's super cool, man. I'm like, oh my gosh. Okay. So yeah, that's that's that. So my house is very, it's very fun. Yeah. There's never a dull moment. What's the, what's the spread? Oldest to the youngest. My oldest is 18. He's actually graduating on the 26th. Let's go. So that's cool. Oh dude, yeah. And then I have my middle son who's 14. He'll be 15 in September. He's going into high school this year. And then I have my 11 year old daughter. She's, she's 11. Yeah. And then, and then the baby and the baby just turned six months old on the first. She was, she was born on Halloween. So she has the most lit birthday. We're about to party for the rest of her life costume parties. It's going to be awesome. Or it's just her birthday is going to get swallowed up by all the festivities. Oh man. And I'm going to make it. She's probably going to hate it to be honest. Like, look, let me, I got to tell y'all when I went into, I was not due yet. She was five weeks early. So, and I wasn't feeling good that day and I was laying in bed and I took a nap with my son and when we woke up, I looked at my son and I was like, let's say a prayer. And I said, God, please get this baby out of me soon because I cannot do this anymore, but just not today. Cause I wanted to go trick or treating. Yeah. Okay. I like that's my thing. I want to go trick or treating. So we get costumed up. I was fat Thor. So I had on. I had on the wig. I had on the beard. I had on the road. Please tell me you gave birth to her like that. I sure as shit did walk in the hospital like that. Cause I do. That is so cool. I even had a hammer. So that day I couldn't find a Thor hammer. I'm on, I'm on Facebook and I'm like, Hey, does anybody have a Thor hammer? I can go pick up. So I go and I pick up this Thor hammer for my costume because I was so excited about it. Okay. And my son's like, let's go. If we got to go get Dana by the time I get to Austin and from Austin to a Caesar's in San Marcos or a new Bronfels, my contractions were a minute apart and I still wasn't going to go to the hospital cause I wanted to trick or treat so bad. I was like, no, I'm not going in my summer's cry. He was like, mom, please go, please go. I went, walked in that hospital 30 minutes later. I was getting the C section cause I was in, I was in, in, in labor. Yeah. It was crazy. You know, you were having the C section or no? I did. I did know that which I was, that's terrifying. That's such a guy question cause I wouldn't know. Like, did they tell you ahead of time? They told me ahead of time. Thanks for this time. I've never had a C section before, but I knew ahead of time because I'd placenta previa and that's when you're placenta grows over your cervix. So I could not have had her naturally. It could have caused like hemorrhaging and bleeding. Yeah. I know exactly what you're talking about right now. I'm a doctor. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just not registered. Hey, I'd call you for my call. I'm a gynecologist. Just not registered. Yeah. I mean, I can do it. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Yeah. Once you have a C section, don't you have a C section every single time after that? Yes. Yeah. Yes, you do. So I'm really grateful that this, if I would have gotten- Is this your last one? Oh, I am on my way to a hysterectomy. I'm like waiting for my doctor's appointment. But yes, this is my last. I'm old, you guys. I'm too old to be having babies. But I'm 46 and Disney's pregnant. I know, but she's young pregnant. It is so hard when you're 40 pregnant. It is much different. I don't recommend. I don't just knock them out. If you want multiples, just bang, bang, one, one, and then be done. Yeah. Because, yeah, Steve's are wants more kids and I'm like, bro, you are barking up the wrong tree. Yeah. You are going to have to leave me. We cannot be together then because I cannot. And he's, he made me feel bad because he was like, oh, Bella's going to grow up alone. And like- Oh, he used that on you. No. He did because the boy is my oldest. They're three years apart and they're super close. She needs a brother to like protect her or a best friend. I know. Don't say that. You know what? You know what? You can tell him there's always adoption. We can always adopt. I wish I that I would love to do that. But I'm a felon. So they're not going to get me no babies. Maybe what about a felon baby? A felon. Yeah. Like your type. You can have a felony and you can just take that. What about a felony baby? And you can be felonies together. Either that or like- I'm sure, look, I'm not being, I'm not being as smart right now. No, you're absolutely right. I'm sure, I'm sure not many people go in there and say, I want to crack baby. Yeah. Right? No, 100%. That's how kids age out of the system. Yeah. That's how they age out of the system. Those are normally probably the kids that people don't go in there and go, you know. You're a nerd for sure. It's like picking out a puppy, right? I would love, I would love an older child. Is it not? It's like picking out a puppy. No, I, it's so- We're talking about children and dogs right now. But he's not on the phone. You don't think an adoption center is the same thing as like going and picking out a puppy? I don't think so. I would definitely- 100%. I would be like, it's, it's, let me tell you. Are you going to pick out the ugly, I'm sorry, I don't mean, are you going to pick out the ugliest baby in there? Are you going to pick out the cutest baby? You're going to pick your baby. I'm picking the cutest baby. Oh my God. The one, I'm picking the cutest and the one that looks like it's going to be an athlete. Yeah. That one has, that one's mixed. I want him. Yeah. Give him to me. Yes. It is the same thing. Oh, he's not white at all? Perfect. He's going to play football, basketball or soccer. I'm good. Nice. It's funny. Yeah. No, that's how, that's literally how it, that's how it goes. Fun fact, there is, in the state of Texas, there is 94,870 kids in state care and that's just in Texas. Are you fucking serious? I wish I was making that number up as a legit fact check me. That's crazy. That's almost like Austin's popular. No, that's not Austin. It's like 10 times the size of my little town that I'm from. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's, it's really, it's really, really sad. The system is, it's broken and it's understaffed, underpaid. People are, it's just not, it's not cared about. CPS. And in Texas, CPS terminates parental rights at a freaking alarming rate. We're a pro mom state. We're not pro anything. You know, what's insane is I've seen CPS show up in some houses cause I know people, right? Yeah. That in my mind, they should absolutely probably intervene with that and they don't. I know. And then I've seen them go and go to like really nice places and people that are really doing a good job and fucking like give them a lot of shit. A hard time. That's what I know. They're close to me that they live in a very nice area. They both have great, great jobs and like they had, I had to actually make, get on the phone and say, no, I know both of them and they're great people. Like fucking like, they're not fucking child molesters. Yeah. They don't beat their kids. They don't do any of that shit. Yeah. They're not drug addicts. They don't, yeah. It is a broken, how, how it is investigated is, is very broken. I get bitter about it all the time because I don't have my daughter and I had this other baby and I'm like, there's just a little piece missing and I'm doing so good now. I did not, I should not, they should not have taken my daughter away from me. It was not a fair situation, but that happens way more often than not. And it, and it really sucks. And I have a big fear of CPS now. Um, there's, if they don't get my door, I'd be like, oh fuck. Well, I mean, I'm not doing shit wrong. Well, and now I know, like there's things to know now that I didn't, I wish I would have known then that I know now, um, that you can, you do not have to talk to these people without a court order. You don't even have to open your door for them. You don't have to comply with them at all unless a judge signs a piece of paper that says you have to do this. Other than that, it's all voluntary and people don't really understand that because, you know, CPS is knocking at your door. You're going to open it and you're going to be like, oh my gosh, how can I get rid of this situation as quickly as possible? And it usually just causes more problems. Um, I have a really big fear of CPS and there's, there's something going on with the kid's school and I was contacted recently and there's like some other investigation stuff going on. And I'm like, better, you better not bring CPS to my freaking door. Man, like don't be given. I don't want that has nothing to do with me. Don't bring that over here. And it scares, it scares the crap out of me because I don't want to deal with them. You lived it. I lived it. I do not want to deal with them. And because I had my rights terminated for one of my kids, they can come in and take the baby if they want to do. Really? Yes, they can. Even if you're, if you're on a straight narrow, I mean, they would definitely investigate me and Caesar, obviously, um, they would do their due diligence, but if they really wanted to be assholes about it, they could legally, they could come in, they could take my daughter from me. So it's like, it's a really scary situation. So the schools, everybody always calling CPS. There's a lot of, um, procedure now with that. Like you can't call an annon in the slay anymore. You have to leave a name and a number. Um, schools are mandatory reporters. Like there's things in place because a couple of years ago, anybody could call that hotline and report anybody for anything. And then your CPS, that's your door. That's it. So it is, it's scary. Um, but yeah, I just, I don't, I'd rather stay away from you. CPS. Don't want not messing with you. Don't mess with me. Yeah. Type stuff. Um, other than that I'm doing, it's everything's really good. Yeah. Really good. So mom life, the wife life. Wife life. Yeah. Yes. Life. Um, no, it's good. I, I do, um, I, so I work for a company called another way recovery services and I really enjoy it because it gets me like out of the house and away. It gets me into adult interaction. Um, but they are a fully medical detox inside your home and they do also, um, outpatient treatment. So we can do everything from detox all the way down to like your IOP. Um, we do that all inside your home. So explain to me what IOP is. I'm a moron. I don't know anything about that. Um, IOP is intensive outpatient treatment. So it's where you don't have to go into like a residential treatment center. We have a lot of our clients, um, are like big business people who want to remain anonymous. Okay. They don't want people to know that they're going to want people to know that they have to go to treatment. Um, so they'll run a hotel room for, you know, seven days and we send a nurse. A nurse will go to your home. You have to sign a consent, just like you would at a treatment center and they stay with you. They stay with you through your entire detox process. Is it just for the detox or? How do they do the, is there like a rehab or no? So the rehab, the, like an actual hub over, no, we do not have an overhead. So everything is done either telehealth or with your one on one nursing. So after your one on one nursing, um, she kind of leaves and then you go straight into our phase two, which is our four days a week of intensive, um, telehealth therapy and it's a CBT therapy. So cognitive behavioral therapy. Um, and it's been, it's shown to be really effective. Um, ideal for people who, if you're going into treatment two, three, four, or five times, you can try this, you can try another way and you know, see, and the success rate has been really high. We currently service North Carolina, Georgia, Tennessee, and we just broke it into the Texas market and that's what I'm doing. I'm there, I'm their outreach coordinator or a business development rep. So I'm out. I'm out here boots on the ground trying to educate people. And not a lot of people know that we're here because we are so new. Um, we can run insurance. So, um, yes, we can run insurance. So, um, in Texas, we're only licensed with a few right now, but they are trickling in every day worse. Like I said, we're still really new. So we've been, we've been, uh, active and like ready to go for about six weeks. So, and I want to say like three months we'll have, you know, we'll be hitting everybody, all the insurance. Um, and that's just for our therapy portion, our detox portion. It's a little bit different. It is a sliding scale, um, out of pocket, um, expense, depending on your medical needs, um, the severity of your, you know, whatever you're going through. And then, um, so the doctor will assess you and you kind of go into a sliding scale there, um, but we can bill for insurance for everything else. You are under the, um, treatment plan of a licensed addictionologist. He's a really cool. His name's a doctor Rodney for here in Texas. He's for Texas in Tennessee and he's pretty, he's, he's fun. It's nice. I'm like, tell her addiction, all of you, addiction, all of you. Yes. He apparently, he's like super successful and he does. Uh, we had a zoom meeting the other day and he was like, Oh, I'm going to deliver a baby and I'm like, Oh, okay. He's a doctor. So he's a doctor doctor. Yes. He's like a real one. Not like me. No, he's a real one. Is it all out of pocket upfront? If you don't have the insurance or you don't run or can they do payments? Um, so they can, they can do payments. They don't, we're not like, Oh, give me your $5,000 today. Yeah. Um, but so in the, um, the, the team's really good about working with that. The admissions team. Um, so when you call in, you get like, you do a whole nurses assessment. With our, our head of nursing, she does a nurse's assessment and, um, they put you, they score you. It's like a, it's called a SIWA. So they'll score you on there and put you where you, where they put you. And then the out of pocket expense is only four detox. So once you are past that, like seven day detox, you go right into our phase two and that's when we can build insurance. Okay. Yeah. I would think that they, I mean, that, that should be a all inclusive thing with an insurance. So we're working on it. Um, but we've had some pushback with that because they are not, we're in an in home, so it's considered outpatient. Even though a nurse is coming to your home, you're over the supervision of a doctor. It's not a medical facility. So we're, there, so it's like, there's a little bit of pushback, but I don't see that pushback being, um, a permanent thing. It's definitely have gotten some more like grace recently. Is that only in Texas or is the other states they have the same problem? Other tape. Yeah. It's not just in Texas. It's, it's across the board. Um, how long has this been in place? Um, so here in Texas, about six weeks. Oh, in general, in general, uh, since 2023. What's the name of it? It's called another way recovery services. So yeah, look at that. Look, look up online. Um, you can go directly to the website. It's a w recovery services. And then their Facebook page, I run the social media. So you can find it from my Facebook or you can look up a w recovery services and check it out. But, um, the success rate is huge. If they go to the website, they need it. Can they use your name? Yes. Okay. Absolutely. If, um, yeah, either way, um, if you, whether you're on the website or you're going through the Facebook or whatever, um, just tell them Caroline sent you. Are you heard it, uh, here or you saw it on Facebook, whatever, um, this, we have a, I want to say it's a 73, 73% success rate. Really? Yes. And that's really high for treatment. That's super high. We're very proud of it. We're very proud of it. So I mean, when you're in, when you're in a situation where you just, you cannot go to treatment, um, give us a call. We have state home moms who can't leave their families. Um, I know that I, I, I mean, I'm not going to relapse, but God forbid if I did, I would not know what to do right now because I, my, I can't, my family can't function without me. I keep things running. You know, I'm mom. I would imagine you would have been in on something like this. It was very hard to get me to go. Right. Yeah. I didn't, one, I didn't want people to know. And then two, I didn't want to, I still wasn't to the point where I was really to admit that I had a problem. Yeah. Right. And then, um, yeah. And then like not being able to work and stuff like that, what do they do for like, we allow you to work. Do you? Yep. Yeah. So if, um, the best way, except during detox, I'm sure you, so that's, it's nurses discretion. Like if you're just like opiate, sick, or you're, you know, alcohol shakes, obviously we're going to make sure that it's safe. Right. You're, and it has to be a safe environment. Um, yeah. I would think detox is gnarly, man. So you're probably just going to want to take that time off. And the, the best part is that nurses there with you. So she's, and she's, she stays in the home with you. And she's hot. Yeah. This is, that'd be a prerequisite of the old moron over here. I'd be like, I mean, I feel like that would be a good marketing. I think Amy, the big dude right there, he's coming to live with us. Yeah. No, it's been, it's been, it's been really effective. She does. She stays with you. Um, after about seven days, that's when overnight or she just comes and checks on you. Nope. She's there overnight. Oh, nice. Yeah. That's pretty good. This could work out. Well, I think I have a problem. Yeah. Yeah. She's, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. They stay. No, that's, that's actually pretty neat. Yeah. That's neat. It's definitely a different, it's a, it's definitely a different way to, to do it and try it. Well, I mean, do you remember, especially if you've been to rehab like 17 times? Well, do you remember detoxing in a room full of people? I didn't really have to. Cause I went in, I went in 14 days sober. Oh, that's right. So I'd already detoxed at my house. And you were meth, right? Loving it. Okay. So we don't do a detox her meth. There's really not a detox. Yeah. It's just really, you sleep it off. I mean, it's, but there's no like detox protocol. I didn't have body aches and shit like that. Like the guys that I was on a bed here, the two guys on each side of me were going through fentanyl and heroin withdrawals. And like I was getting, I get up and take a piss every two hours. Anyways. And every time I would get up, I would have to check on them and be like, Hey, you want me to get you something to drink or like they were struggling. Yeah. And yeah. So that would be something totally different, but no, for meth, you just sleep it off. Sleep it off. Yeah. Otherwise you're going to cry. Yeah. I got a guy in there for Kratom too. Right. Oh, that's so bad right now. Yeah. Fucking pussy. Oh my gosh. That shit is so bad right now. Like people are a lot, a lot of the census is Kratom. And what, I don't know what the difference between Kratom and like seven Oh H is. I didn't even know what seven Oh H was until somebody. Yeah. Somebody, I was at a, I was at a BD like, I'm never heard of seven Oh H. Well, they were kept saying seven Oh H, seven Oh H. It's such a big thing. And I was like, you know, like, yeah, it is. I've, I had no idea what they were freaking talking about, but I don't want to be the first to admit that. So, um, but apparently it's like stronger than Kratom and you can get it. Where you can get Kratom. I don't know. I'm about to write that down because we're going to have a, well, no, for, so we're having a guy on here. Seven Oh H is a much stronger compound, fine and found in Kratom. Okay. Well, you, I guess you can get that in like, I don't even know what form it comes in, but, um, you, the detox is a equivalent to like an opiate detox in low dosage is like a stimulant like energy. High dosage is a relief from opiates. Seven Oh H. That's crazy. I just had to refer to, uh, one of my friends, she, cause she knows what I do and she was, it's hard. She doesn't have insurance and she doesn't really have the funds to pay out of pocket anywhere. So, um, I was having a hard time finding where to put her, but I finally got her into a place called SinaCore. I don't know if you've heard of that. I heard it. Yeah. So she just went into SinaCore. She, I was like, Hey, best friend, you got to stay like the whole 14 days. They're telling you she stayed like four days, but she's got, she needed that. She needed those days to get off of it, but she was like, I was had phantom pains. I was shaking. I was sick, nauseous and I were from Kratom. From Kratom. And I, I was relating that to, cause I'm an opiate addict. So I know what it's like to detox off opiates. I had to do that shit in jail and, um, perfect place for it. Oh my God. I thought I was going to die, bro. That is probably one of the hugest reasons why I have, look, I, when I got my C section, champ that shit, no pain meds. Cause I knew, I knew I did not bring those things home. I knew I was like, if I bring these home, I'm in trouble. And so I didn't, I Tylenol, my ibuprofen. Oh my God, it was so hard though. I'm bad. That is so hard. I was like swollen, but I already knew. Cause in, I remember, I will never forget detoxing it in jail. I was sick. I was puking. I was shitting on myself. I was hurting. I was dehydrated and in jail, they don't really fucking care. Yeah. So did I get a taper? No. I had to just, and it was in a hole, you know, the whole, they put you in the room with the hole in the ground. Yeah. They left me in there for eight days. So good question. I want to get back to what you're doing, but this is just a question. What's worse coming off of opiates or C section? Pain wise, like, I'm going to say opiates because it lasts longer. The C section, like it was really painful for about seven days. And then it started to like normalize. But when you're on opiates, you're, you're, you're sick for weeks. Both of those sound really terrible. Yeah, they are. I don't recommend. Yeah. Especially when you're in the hole in jail. Yeah. Man, that's, that's nuts. So where did this place start? How did the company start? So it started in North Carolina and our founder and CEO, his name's Greg Boland. He's a super cool. He's actually a military man. He used to live in Texas. He was stationed up in Fort Hood. He was just here recently. Represent Colleen. Yeah. Get a lot of drugs out of Colleen. Yeah. Um, he used to say that he said the same thing. Um, he was a drinker, so he was a drinker, but he started this because he could not get sober in treatment. It was hard for him to do. And so, you know, after hitting rock bottom, um, the 12 steps didn't work for him. Those things did not work for him. So what worked for him was the CBT therapy mixed with an addictionologist and that has kept him sober. So that's how he started another way because he's, he's not wrong. Treatment, it will work eventually. Um, but the same treatment doesn't work for everybody. Yeah. You know, it's not, it's, it's not for everybody. And especially if you're not open to, um, you know, the spiritual aspect of the 12 steps, because it's very, it's spiritual and it's a higher power. And if you're very closed off to that, then of course the 12 steps is not going to work for you, but you know what works for everybody? CBT therapy, cross the board. You can get cognitive behavioral therapy and it's, it's working. That's awesome. Yeah. And you said six weeks here in Texas, six weeks. It's launched in Texas. Yeah. That's what they hired. So I will never forget when he called me because I, I put my resume, it was on Indeed and I'd given it to him and like, it was like months later and he randomly called me and he was like, Hey, we're doing this, this, this, this. And I will, I work, I want to work in recovery. Um, teching is difficult for me now. It's, I love teching and probably the best tech. I'm not just trying to like blow smoke up my ass, but like tech wise, I'm really good at my job and I can also, um, I'm just a people person. So it was easy for clients. I can block them. I can relate to them. I can talk them off ledges. Um, but it became very difficult for me. So I've always, I wanted to stay in recovery. So when he contacted me, I'm like, Oh, so I can work in recovery and I don't have to be in a center and be blocking or teching. I'm about it. Heck yeah. Um, but it was a really scary thing because he was like, okay, you're the person in Texas, the only person in Texas. Let's get going. And I was like, Oh my God. I'm okay. So how are you getting into contact with these people? Like what are they? Is it all tell a, Oh, like, yeah, your boots on the ground. I'm on the ground. So I mainly work. I've worked really closely with Greg. He's our CEO and founder. And then I work really close with our head of nursing. Her name is Kim. Um, but other than that, I'm because I'm in the recovery field. So I'm, I can, I'm out there. I already know what the recovery world is. I actually owe a big thank you to Shawna. My, my bestie Shawna, Shawna. Hey, Shawna, she brought me in. I called her one day and I was like, Hey, this is what I'm doing. And I see that you're doing the same thing. Can you get, get me into this world because I'm in the recovery world, but I'm not in the business development world. And I don't know where to go from here. And she was like, bro, I got you. And so she's brought me in and that's, she's sober too. She's sober too. Why isn't she getting on the podcast? She would probably, oh, y'all would love Shawna. Y'all would love Shawna. I think that she should actually be on here for sure. She's great. She's pregnant right now. Okay. Yeah. Well, we're not afraid of that. We had you on. I mean, like we had one on. We got to bring them. I told her today because I'm, I'm meeting her tomorrow. We're going around. It's in the water, man. I'm not, I don't drink water. It's actually not in the water. It's in the combat. Yeah. Yeah. It's a, it's a water like substance. Yeah. Ew. Depending on what you, how you hydrate, I guess. Yeah. The day before. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Sorry about that. Shawna, you should come on. Yeah. Well, we should absolutely do that. I'm going to tell her, I, cause I told her she called me and she was like, what are you doing? I'm like, I'm about to go see my, my friends in Austin and get on this podcast. And she's like, okay. Yay. She, she thinks it's awesome. Y'all, I'm telling you, y'all would love Shawna. You put her episode on repeat. She's, she's no filter. None. Perfect. Oh yeah. We, we're talking about taking, come to the thing. Yeah. She wouldn't, no filter at all. She's super great. Yeah. I actually met her. So she was a tech at the ranch, when Milamon is ranch. Oh nice. Yeah. So I met her there and then I was there for like right at a year and a half, almost two years. She was only there a few months and then she kind of dipped out. But yeah, she had no pride reached out to her and I was like, help me. I don't know what to do. And she did. And so now I'm pretty good at this too, I guess. Hopefully I am. We have no clients in Texas yet, but I don't think that that's a really weird thing because we're so new. And then when I tell people about this, they've never, you don't hear of it. It's not a herd of things. Yeah. Like, oh, at home detox, how does that work? Did they do any advertising or anything? Yeah, we do. Um, we do advertising. So their Facebook stuff was kind of messed up, but it's been really great, um, since I took it over, I get a lot of messages on Facebook. Um, but we do have this, uh, SEO guy. I don't really know what that means, but he does stuff on the back end of it with Google. Um, so we should see an increase with that, but. And, you know, a couple of guys that have a podcast. I know. I love y'all so much because. Here we are. When they were telling me, they're like, okay, what's your strategy, Caroline? And I'm like, Mike. I did. I did. Right. I did. I called. I first, I think I told destiny. I was like, Hey, Destiny, I need to do this thing, but I did. I called. I was like, Hey bro, can I talk to you about something? I don't know what to do. And I did. I called him and I'm like, Mike, what's up? Um, Hey, by the way, did that Houston people? Did you, are you going to go do that? Did they ever reach out to you? That was like 14 questions and. Yeah. I'm matter of like three seconds. The Houston Texans guy. I gave him your contact for that sober, whatever. Definitely didn't reach out to him unless he didn't text me. Okay. No, I don't think I gave him your, I think I, I, I don't think I gave him your actual message. Um, my son's texting me. I don't think so. I mean, check your, check your email because I, when they were telling me about this, they reached out to us for the, they have like a, the Houston Texans have like a sober day or something like that. And they invited us to go and I'm like, Hey, y'all need to get this podcast out there. That would be super freaking cool for dope. Yeah. Super freaking cool. They let you go on like the football field. I can pretend to be a Texan fan for the day. They, I mean, I know nothing. I didn't even, let me, I didn't even know they were an NFL team. So I had no idea. So I'm like, why is this stupid football? Reaching out to me. I don't care. And Caesar was like, no, they're an NFL team. And I'm like, Oh, yeah. Okay. I'll take that serious. I guess, I guess I should investigate this. So yeah, I think, I don't really know how it works. We've decided that we're not going to do it, but I thought it would be really awesome for you. So I told him, I said, Hey, how many people are you trying to bring? So I want to tell you, I want to say that the last time that he did this, because the Spurs did it for Alicia. Yeah. Remember we, did we sponsor? Yes. We sponsored that. And are we sponsored like for them to get a bus and go? Yeah. Right. Something like that. And I think they brought 20, I think they gave 20 tickets out. Yeah. Oh, this is going to be way more than 20. It's like hundreds. Let me see what he's. Yeah. Last year it had like 156 people and this is the fourth year that he's doing it. So I thought it was a really cool. Um, but yeah, so I told him, I said, Hey, reach out to this. We don't need 156 tickets. We just need. Two. 20. Me and you. We need to bring some stuff. Rad and gunner. Like, I mean, but other than that, this is like a really popular thing. I've never heard of it and I'm in the recovery. Well, I'm sure they don't give it all 156 to one place. They probably spread it out to like different recovery places. Yeah. They, so we got reached out to, I know promises behavioral health got reached out to they're actually located in Houston. So it's like he's, this is like a big thing. Yeah, that's dope. Yeah, it's cool. I'm going to, I'm going to, cause he messaged me yesterday and I'm going to be like, did you reach out to the podcast guys? Cause y'all were down at South by Southwest. That was really cool. Yeah. I'm we're, we're, we're trying to get involved more with the community. Yeah. Yeah. Good. You should go to, um, tap. What, you know what? Tap. Okay. So I'm actually, I think we can help each other. You need to go to the, like the recovery stuff. Um, I'm going to send it to you right now. So tap is where everybody in the recovery community, uh, treatment centers, they come together and it's like this big, huge convention. They just had it in Austin. Um, but they're having another one in September that's in San Antonio. I'm going to send you the flyer. You should do stuff like this. Um, it puts your name out there. Everybody's it, if you're in the recovery field, you definitely should go at stuff like this. I'll be at Austin net tomorrow. Um, but you probably wouldn't need to do Austin. So with all of that, like we just need to make sure that people out there really know that we're not professionals. Yeah. Yeah. We're definitely not professionals. We're like professionals inside of the, we're going to start doing like, um, we're going to start doing, uh, what are we doing? An episode like ask them more on asking at it. Yeah. We're going to start doing ask your addict acts, ask them more on where our, our people can ask us questions live. Oh, okay. Are they like that? Send any questions? Yeah. Like a Q and a Q and a. And we'll answer anything like, yeah, whatever you want to ask. We'll just answer it. But, but I think, but we're going to have to say something like, this is just yeah, well, but it's don't sue us. Disclaimer at the beginning. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. I mean, so you're, you have a profession in this. You're doing stuff with a company and you're a professional. Yes. We are not like, we're just, uh, we're a professional fuckup. Yeah. We're here in a room with the brick walls that we're just like chopping it up. I would say that, I mean, y'all are, I was wearing your shirt the other day. Oh, where was I at? I think I was at Target. Yeah. They did. They knew exactly who y'all were. 100%. They're like, Oh, have you listened to that podcast? And I'm like, I've been on the podcast. Yes. Yes. That's kind of like, it's. Target's one of our spots. Well, just out and about, but what I get all the time is. Is that you're wearing your own shirt? I'm like, yeah, I wear my own merch. I mean, if I had it, I would. Yeah, I wear it everywhere. And then it's always like, or it's this, it's like, you're on the internet somewhere. Like they don't, well, it's very rare that they're like two addicts and a moron, dude, I watch it all the time. It's always like fucking know you from somewhere. Where is it? What are you? Then I have to like explain it like a jackass in the middle of a convenient store. While I'm grabbing a beer. What's your podcast about? Diction and recovery. I'll see you later. I'm like, no, I saw him buying a beer. Yeah, that was funny. Yeah. Everybody's recovery is different. So yeah, I'm not in recovery. That's true. You're the moron. I'm the moron. So what is the, what's the goal for this venture of yours? What are you? So for me, I am just a very much, I want to help people. Um, I want, I want people to obtain sobriety because I will never forget what it was like at my lowest point. And it's really hard to find somebody who can not only empathize, but also sympathize with that and help you get the help that you need. So that's why I'm doing it. Um, I believe in another way recovery services and what they are trying to provide for their clients. It is very different. Um, we're teaching you how to become sober while also managing and maintaining your very real life. And that is huge for recovery because when you go into a treatment center, you're institutionalized, you're, you're in a very controlled environment. And so we can give you all the tools. You can get all the tools that you need and all the, you know, CBT and all the 12 steps and all those things. But when you drastically have to apply them after 90 days, that's where treatment becomes a revolving door. When you go back in the real world, you don't, yeah, cause you go back in the real world and they're like, Oh my gosh, what if you never leave the real world? Leave the real world and you're learning these things while also managing work and school or family or whatever the case may be. Um, these triggers are coming up almost immediately and we're able to dive in there and address them in real time, not in a processing time or, you know, three months from now or in a center, we address them in real time and we teach you how to cope with it in real time. So that's why our success rate is so high. So say the website again. Um, it's awrecoveryservices.com. Okay. Rad, is there a way like we can like put that on the thing? Like, well, so people can see it and reach out there. Do you have like a, is there like a flyer? Yes. And they're in my car. Um, I did. I will leave you guys with a couple. Um, well, yeah, we could. Yeah. Yeah. You just send it to our guy over here. He'll just say, okay. Can you make it make that noise? Like, yeah, dude, I want to, I want to go. Yeah. There you go. Dude. Hey, do it one more time. That's awesome. Let's flash that thing all over the place, dude. For sure. Yeah. Okay. Yes, I will. I'll definitely, um, it's just, if you're struggling, don't hesitate to reach out. Even if AW, if, even if I cannot help you and another way recovery services is not for you, I will at least be able to point you in the right direction. I have to refer out, you know, not all the time, but there are times where I'm like, okay, you need a higher level of care. So we're not going to just leave you flat. Reach out to me. I will help you. I will point you in the right direction and get you squared away. That's awesome. That's awesome. So what's next for you? What, what's, what's, uh, what's goals for, for, uh, for your real life to not have any more babies. Yeah. Don't want that to happen. Um, also we're getting married finally. Um, I don't know if you remember, but last time I was here, I had just gotten out of jail for two weeks because there was a. Yeah. There was that fuckup like with not even my, nothing to do with me. Um, I missed my wedding day during that time. So that really sucked, but I know it was, I was pissed, but it's okay. You know, it just wasn't the right time. It just wasn't the right time. Um, yeah. Jail was the right time. That was the right thing for you. I was like the worst thing. My kids, my son randomly remembers it too. Cause he was there that day cause he was recovering from surgery. And the other day he was laying in bed and he goes, mom, do you remember that one time you got arrested for no reason at all. And I was like, yes, I remember that. It was the worst dude. I remember it was the worst. It was over a year ago now. Thank goodness, but not that long ago. I know God. And the reason like people, when I tell people that they're like, Caroline, you're such a fucking liar. Yeah. You sound like you're full of shit right now. And I'm like, bro, I'm not though. Like that literally happened. You had to, when you said that on the last podcast, I was kind of like, this lady might be kind of full of shit. Mike, yeah, who you bringing on a podcast here? I don't know what's going on. Nope. It happened. It was a real thing, but other than that, it's one of those things that during your addiction, you probably said all the time, I didn't do shit. Yeah. No, I know it did. Literally the one time that you didn't do shit is like, whatever bitch. Yeah. I ain't listening. No, the guard. So there was a guard there and I will never forget this feeling. So when she saw me. I mean, I did not give Hayes County any easy time with me. I was definitely wild in and doing stupid shit. You think I knew you by name? Oh, dude, they knew me when I was in booking. They were coming. What are you doing, Jorplan? Why are you here? And they are, they already knew like I was like, when I watch the cop videos and the cop pulls up and they're like, Oh, Joey. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You know, that's not good. Yeah. Yeah. No, they definitely know me by name. So I came up on her roster and we have to like line up and like they're doing their count and I was sitting on the bed. I was crying because it was like my first night there and I just got off the phone with Caesar and she came in and she stood at the bench. She was like, huh. And I'm like, I am not here for any problems. I just, I want to go home and I didn't do anything. And she was like, how many times have we heard that from you before and then walked away. And I immediately started crying again. And I was like, Oh my God, she's right though. And she was rude to me for those entire 36 days. The whole fucking time. The whole fucking time. Are you in there for 36 days? 36 fucking days. That's insane. Dude, I wouldn't make it 36 days. Oh, dude, it was the worst because before I'm like, OK, well, at least I have food, a bed and a meal. Well, now I had a whole family. I was pregnant. I did not deserve to be. I'm crying on the phone. Caesar came to see me one time and I was so upset that he I never wanted him to see me in a fucking brown jumpsuit. At least it wasn't orange. I would have. I'm not suicidal this time. So it could have been orange. But it wasn't. And it was just it was 36. I would be fighting every day. I already know I'd be in the hole. Oh, I was so I was so mad. And then after I had my parole theory selling cigarettes, you can have babes in there now. And then you have these stupid girls. They were just like breaking open the patches. And I'm in there trying to get everybody sober because I'm like, maybe God put me here for a reason. So I'm like in there with the big sister Caroline in there. By the end of my 36 days, though, I did have half that dorm wanting to do step work and like wanting to hear me like preach essentially or whatever. But no, they're breaking open the freaking nicotine patches and snorting them. And I'm just like, oh, let's go. It's the worst. Whatever you got to do, man, if you're sick, you're sick. Yeah. No, sick is an understatement. Like this girl, she's a nose just bleeding because that's shit. I don't, it's nicotine. Like I don't understand what you're snorting at any. I have no idea. But it was really sad. It was really sad to see. And then I'm trying to save everybody and Caesar's like, get out of there. Don't save shit. I'm like, I have to save everybody. And it was just not fun. But yeah, my kid, he does remember that he always randomly to randomly. Mom, do you remember that one time? I'm like, yes. Yeah. Yes, I do. Thank you for that reminder. Unfortunately. Yeah. Yeah, thanks for the reminder. Yeah, it sucks. But anyways, yes, that's it. Just, you know, living life, living life, moming it up. Moming it up. Yeah, I didn't even know you brought the baby. Like, I mean, I saw your son. I was like, OK, and then I come around and he's got the baby. I was like, oh, yeah, baby, I had to bring her. You all had to meet her. You all saw her. I wasn't I wasn't even that pregnant either when I came. No, he's like a new development when that happened. And now she's a new outside development. Voila. She's so cute. Yeah, I was like, I kind of was like, man, maybe I should like get her on the the couch here, like, interview her a little bit. That'd be cool. Be fun. Your beard. Yeah, she's we like. Huh? Like, yeah, she was playing with your beard. Yeah, I have the cutest picture of them. I'm a sin. I was going to send it to you. Yeah, dude. It's so cute. Yeah, we had we had a Kodak moment. Well, how do people find you? Me personally. So Facebook, definitely. You can look me up. My name is Caroline Cast. It's it'll be Caesar's last name soon. Don't ask me to pronounce it. It's terrible. I can't do it. So you better learn. You're about to know I can be Caroline Cast. I don't understand. That's a perfectly fine name. Yeah. What's the what's your what's going to be your last thing? I can't say it good. So OK. You're going to make me look stupid in front of how many followers. I mean, there's no. OK, OK, OK. His last name is Castaneda. That's not to Castaneda. You I feel like you said it way better than me. Cast Castaneda. I hate taking her to the doctor because they're like, what's her last name? And I'm like, OK, do you do this with doctors? You're like, I don't want to say that. No, I'm just like her first name is Isabella and her date of birth is this. And then they always find her. OK, you should probably learn. I have a white girl mouth. I don't understand. No, it's OK. You'll figure it out. I can say my name, though. It's weird. I can say my first name beautifully and my last name beautifully, but I cannot say his last name. I feel like your last name is a little more difficult to. It is. Like your current last name is way more difficult than. Then Castaneda. Castaneda. Am I saying that right? I'm Filipino. Why are you looking at him? That was racist. Yeah, you look like you're like you're like, hey, you you're dark. That's so funny. How often does that happen, though? All the time you're a mustache, bro. You look like Pedro off of. Oh, for Pedro. You said it better than me. That's funny. My bad, bro. Am I saying that right? I don't fucking know. Yeah. No, you didn't say that. He goes, I'm Filipino. So there's that. Oh, shit. That's funny. That needs to be a clip. Yeah. Well, thanks for coming. Yeah, of course. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to interrupt. My favorite movie is Mean Girls. I love Mean Girls. And Mean Girls, you know when they say she's she she moved here all the way from Africa and the teacher says, hello. And the black girl's like, I'm from Michigan. She just assumes it's the only black girl in class. She's like, oh, hello. She's like, I'm from Michigan. Yeah. Right. Oh, yeah, I do. That's funny. My great movie. My bad. You took it. You took it like a champ. Yeah. Hello, L'Occito. I don't even know what that means. I'm sorry. Oh, OK. See, I don't even know what's hers. Thank you. Yes. That's awesome. Well, thanks for coming by. Yeah, of course. Anytime. And you sharing what you're doing. This that's really cool. Yeah, I love it. I love it a lot. I try it. Try it. I'm trying anyways. I wanted helping people, helping people, helping people. Yeah. How you change the world. And if you have problems getting a hold of Caroline, you can always reach out to us. Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah, for sure. Well, we'll get you in contact with her. Yeah, absolutely. I'm going to bring Shana next time. Yeah, well, yeah, we'll reach out. Need more money? Yeah, you know where to find us. Yeah, we can put your both on. Yeah, she would love that. She would love that. We have the same thing I do for another company. It's like, yeah, cool. Well, I think we got one in the books. Yeah, thank you. Thank you so much. I can hear my son's already like, mom. Yeah. Yeah, I keep thinking about that. I hear her. I can hear her. You have a six month old baby. Yeah, like probably crying for you right now. But but thanks for taking the time and bringing your kids and it's awesome to see the baby that was incubating at the time. And now it's how she's right here. That's cool. She's so cute, too. Yeah, she's adorable. She's adorable. Well, to Addison Amoran and this Caroline, thank you all. He's.