Healing Hearts | Dr. Bradley Nelson on The Heart Wall

You are now tuning in to discover your potential. So listen, participate. Be inspired. Know that you can discover your potential. In this special episode, I'm excited to be joined by Dr. Bradley Nelson. With 30 years of experience as a holistic chiropractic physician, Dr. Nelson is one of the foremost experts in the emerging fields of bioenergetic medicine and energy psychology. He's the best-selling author of three books, the emotion code, the body code, and now the heart code. As the founder and CEO of Discover Healing, he's developed an advanced energy healing certification courses, certifying more than 15,000 practitioners in 108 countries worldwide. Today, we're going to focus on Dr. Nelson's latest book, The Heart Code, and why he believes that the single most important thing you can do for yourself is to eliminate the negative emotions that may be forming a heart wall around your heart. Welcome to the show, Dr. Nelson. Well, thank you, Anna, for having me back. It's great to see you. It's so great to see you, and you've been so busy. You and your wife, I can't believe what's emerged in just a year. We've been so busy. We've been busy, I think, been any other time in our lives. It's been crazy. I mean, we're filming a documentary right now about energy medicine and the emotion code, body code, heart code, and we've also been recording the audio version of the heart code book. We've been doing that in our walk-in closet. Yeah, yeah. Because that's the best audio, right, with all the core. We just set up yesterday. So yeah, we're, yeah, it's been really busy, but very, very fun. Well, I'm so excited to hear that it's your voice on the audio book version. I get a little annoyed when there's an actor or sound, and then you know, you're certainly the voice of it to me in my head. So great. And this time, Jean, my wife, is the co-author, and she's also on the audio, too. So it's really fun. That's really fun. Well, you know, I should tell people, I love that it's a family affair. I have a personal connection to your work, and it's that, well, 15 years ago, I was adopting a baby. And while other mothers are picking out cribs and, you know, one's ease and decorations, I'm collecting books on adoption and neuroscience, and I'm basically putting myself into a tizzy. Because at this point, it's an open adoption, but most people don't have any experience. There wasn't a large body of work on what open adoption can do for the situation. And I was just, you know, feeling like my kid was going to come with some emotional baggage. And I had a friend that I went to church with, Barbara Stewart, who said to me, hey, come here. I've got this little method called the Emotion Code, and I think you need to look at this, because I feel like you're you're doomsday in yourself. We didn't have doom scrolling back then, but that's what my mind was doing. And she just said, gently, you know, there is this, there is this very effective method for, you know, sort of clearing that out. Whatever's coming to you, I probably needed it more than this little baby you understand, but Barbara was so adept at getting me around this. And, you know, my kid doesn't love that I'm a podcasting mom. So I won't give away all the trade secrets that we went through, but it was so on point, Dr. Nelson. I have to thank you right now to the gate. Welcome. I was work here. It's all of this stuff is really from up above coming into the world at a time when we desperately need it. And so I'm grateful to just be the teacher. Yeah, and a pioneer. I mean, I'll say this, I experienced that. I passed the book along. I also went to school and studied cranial sacred. I thought this, you know, it's like I have to go to the mind. I just, I don't want to think it's just woo-woo and then, you know, but I want to find explanation. So I'm a bit of that kind of person. I wouldn't say a skeptic, but just like, how can I get the word out about this? And here we are. So so many years later, the one really cool experience I will share though, because we might have talked about this before. It was because I saw that working in my life. I passed the book along when my sister-in-law was having a medical crisis with her adult daughter. And with all the doctors in the family, no one could really diagnose and treat what was going on in her life. And it got so severe that she was skeletal and her, and her body was really giving up. And about a year and a half in, with tons of different modalities coming in, and we were looking at it in a multidisciplinary way. And I finally just told her mom, hey, I think you should check out the emotion code. And that was the, that was the trick. She recovered very quickly. So I know you have all the proper disclaimers in your book. And I know that you are, you know, you do it right. But I will tell you, I believe on a very profound level that your work is significant in that multidisciplinary team effort for healthcare. So again, thank you. Well, you're so welcome. And thank you for sharing that. I mean, the, really the emotional baggage that we have is the elephant in the living room, really in Western medicine. It's, it's unacknowledged, but it's absolutely, it's absolutely there. It's playing a huge role in our mental and physical and emotional health. And we, by and large, you know, Western medicine, of course, is still pretty much stuck in drugs and surgery. But, you know, things are gradually being pride open. A whole people are understanding the, you know, the mind body connection, but I, I didn't, I thought you had exhausted the topic. I thought you were the one of those people that is convinced, you have PhD, you have Tony Robbins endorsing you, you got medical doctors and PhDs from every walk of life, endorsing what you do in your new book. So, so how, if you would, like, how did you come on the idea that the heart was so central to this and why now and what was the, I'd just start writing another book and globetrotting yet again. Yeah, well, the globetrotting never ends. We leave for Switzerland on Wednesday. I'll be speaking to 10,000 people at the flow summit there. But, but we, you know, my wife and I love it. Luckily, we like traveling. Well, here's what happened. First of all, in my own practice, down in Southern California, there were times when, I mean, I, I had learned gradually about emotional baggage and how important it is for a person's health. And there were times though that I would come away from working on a patient and I would just have this nagging feeling that there was something that I was missing. There was something, there was emotional baggage that was somehow just not available to me. I didn't know what it was. And it was in, it was in 1998, my wife and I were at a conference on, on magnetic healing. And I was one of the speakers of this event. And early in the morning of this event, she wakes me up and she tells me that she's had a dream. And there were three symbols in the dream that she knew had to do with her health and well-being. And so as I was trying to help her decipher what these symbols meant, suddenly I had a waking vision where the hotel room that we're in is no longer there. And instead, what I'm seeing is this incredibly beautiful, hardwood floor. And I mean, it was like a mirror is the most beautiful floor I've ever seen in my life. I've never seen anything to come close. And this lasted for several minutes. But as soon as I started seeing this floor, this understanding comes into my mind that my wife's heart is underneath this floor. And I have absolutely no clue what this means. And I told her what I was seeing and understanding. And she didn't have a clue either. So we started, we said a prayer and asked, you know, Heavenly Father to help us to know what was happening here. Because this was obviously significant. Right, right. Let me tell you, it is pretty wild. And so I started muscle testing her asking questions of her spirit, her subconscious mind, her internal computer to try to figure out what was going on. And gradually we figured out that her heart was surrounded with emotional energy, emotional baggage, trapped emotions, we call them from her life. And we asked if we could release these. And the answer was yes. And so we started releasing these. And it took us about two weeks to release these layers, you know, one at a time. And then we'd have to wait a while. And then we could release another layer and so on. Well, so here's here's what happened with my wife. It was really interesting. She was, she seemed really normal to me until we had our first child. And that child got to be the age where we could get a babysitter. And she couldn't call a babysitter. Right. She just could not call a babysitter. And I just was, I couldn't understand this. Well, it's just a young girl. You're just going to know she couldn't do it. Couldn't do it. And I thought, no, that's kind of, that's kind of funny when it was going to, well, she was also battling and had battled depression and anxiety, you know, for many years. She also felt like she was always kind of on the outside looking in with whatever group she was ever with. Friends she'd known for years. And she was a kid. She always felt kind of expendable. Like she was the odd person out like she never really belonged. And you know, at church, wherever. And then it was, when that, after that last emotion was released and that wall was no longer there, she was actually sitting in relief society. When suddenly she felt the first time in her life, like she was, she belonged with that group of women. Like she was part of that group. It was an amazing thing. Really society is, you know, it's the largest women's organization in the world, part of the truth. Jesus Christ, the latter, the saints, which we both go to. And it was an amazing experience for her, you know, and that was a big change. Well, the next person that, I believe it was the next person that I saw that had a heart wall was a woman that came into see me with a rather severe neck pain. And as I was talking with her, she told me that she was single and had been single for eight years and was never going to date again. She was going to die single the rest of her life. She was going to be a little. And I said, well, you know, she was 38 years old. She was a nurse and she was an attractive woman. I said, well, you know, why do you feel this way? What's going on? She said, well, eight years before she's really deeply in love with this guy that dumped her and broke her heart. So I trusted her and found she had one of these heart walls, too. We call it a heart wall where she had built up these emotional layers around her heart. And so I started releasing these and each one of these layers had to do with the break-up eight years before. Wow. So when I cleared the last emotion, her neck pain, which is about a nine, went to a zero install. It was suddenly completely gone, right? Yeah. And so she leaves the office feeling great and doesn't come back for three months. And she walked back into my office. I remember, I always remember this, I was standing in my hallway and I saw her and I said, hey, I haven't seen you for a while. I remember because she was the only cell of a woman that I'd ever met. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. My right. She got a stack out in my mind and then I said, how are you doing? What's going on? She said that she said, my neck has been fine since I was here, but she said, you know, through that heart wall for me and that really works. She said, about two weeks after I was here, I found out my childhood sweetheart has been living right around the corner for me for almost eight years. What? And we're dating and we're in love. She said, and I think he's going to ask me to marry him, right? Oh. And so this is the kind of thing that is not unusual when this wall is taken down and see in the emotion code book when it first came out in 2007, there was one chapter about this phenomenon and it was called the walls around our hearts. Yeah. And when the book came out, my wife and I knew, okay, eventually we have to write another book just about this because this is so powerful. Yeah. And it's not unusual at all when people have that wall taken down. I was not unusual at all for them to fall in love. Not unusual at all for creative ideas to begin to flow because the best creative ideas that you'll ever have will not come from this brain. They'll come from this brain. And see, until I believe it was in 1991, scientists discovered that the heart actually has all this gray matter and white matter in it. See, I didn't know that. And I will tell you, that's probably the biggest takeaway because I'm not neuroscience chunky. I like this idea of neuroplasticity, but can you talk a little bit about how the brain and the heart communicate? We'll get into cellular memory because that's another reason to buy your book. If you just want to hear great stories, this will blow your, this is just like popcorn candy good. Like, I'm like, wow, these shouldn't be, this should be those hard transplant stories. Anyway, we're digressing off the map. But I was just floored that the heart, first of all, I'll say this, the biggest takeaway was that the heart creates the biggest electromagnetic field that you can feel that when someone walks in a room like this person with the fiance around the corner, that literally like, how does that work? I don't even need to know, but that that that field is that big. And so you can imagine constructing that field, you're not nearly living into your potential, let alone how love, creativity, but talk about that. What is what is it that they found this connection that the heart is actually sending signals to the brain? Mine really. Right. Well, you know, the heart communicates with the brain. And when scientists looked at that communication pathway, they were fully expecting to see the brain communicating with the heart and sending most of the messages. What they found was the exact opposite that most of the messages are traveling from the heart to the brain. Isn't that interesting? Well, when you think about it, see, the heart has its own separate nervous system, its own separate brain, they call it the little brain in the heart. And it stores the memories of the things that we love the most. And the places that we visit that we are the most enchanted with and the the foods and the sports and things that we that we really care about, those memories don't go here, they go to the heart. And so that's why when heart transplants happen, it's not at all unusual for people to suddenly find that, you know, they love baseball now because they got a baseball player's heart. And they didn't care for it before. Or now, they're listening to classical music all the time because, you know, they got the heart of a violinist, things like that. Or to actually have memories of being in places in the world that they never in life have ever visited. And yet, those are the favorite places of the person whose heart is now beating in their chest. It's amazing. And yes, exactly, they call it cellular memory. And it's really such a fascinating topic. And of course, there are books written about this. But anyway, what I believe is that the whole, our whole being is intelligent. You know, it's not just the brain. You know, we're divine beings. You know, we come from God, you know, the creator, the father of everything, God that's keeping all the planets in orbit and keeping everything working. And I'll tell you something, I really believe that the energy that fills the universe, that is keeping everything going, if you could actually analyze it, it would come out to be the frequency of absolute unconditional love. I think that's what it is. Yeah. Sure love that fills the universe and all the interspaces of the universe and keeps everything working. Well anyway, here we are in this world and we're not really tuned into that. We're just kind of, we got our blinders on and we're going through life. The problem is as we experience life and as we experience emotions, sometimes we bury those emotions because we don't want to go there. Sometimes emotional events happen that are just overwhelming. Sometimes emotional things happen that we artificially blow out, blow out of all proportion, right? And then we're usually embarrassed later in those cases. But it's those cases that create emotional baggage or these emotional energies that are stuck in our bodies. And so what happens is when you feel like your heart is going to break, I believe really that the subconscious mind is everything that the ancients believed it to be. They believe the heart was the seed of the soul, the source of love and creativity and romance and they believe the heart was the core of our being. Now, the reason why they thought all of these things is because it was kind of obvious to them because they observed that hey, if they were feeling really hurt in some way or really abused or if they were deep in grief, they wouldn't get, you know, their knee wouldn't hurt. They'd get a chest in their chest, right? Yeah. And so that's right where the heart was, huh? But by the same token, they also knew that, you know, for example, if you're at a concert and there's someone that's singing and they're singing or performing at the absolute peak of their ability and they're really doing it from the heart. Well, their heart is resonating and everybody else's heart begins to resonate. And if you look around, you'll see people have their hands up over their heart like this and people will have tears in their eyes, right? People will experience those moments which are so amazing. Well, so did the ancients and they knew from those things they deduced the heart is the center of our being. And I believe that the heart really is the seat of the subconscious mind. It's the seat of the spirit within us. And so when we are really feeling abused or for really feeling hurt in some way or we're deep in grief, we'll feel that feeling of heartache, we can feel like our heart is going to break, right? And so the subconscious mind will start to put up a wall around that heart to protect the heart from being broken, right? It makes perfect sense. You know, it kind of moves the heart into a bunker and now you're living with this wall. And the problem is now you get to go through the rest of your life with this wall. Yeah. It makes it much harder for you to really connect with other people to give and receive love. And the reason why we wrote this book is because the heart code is because we really felt that we needed to draw attention once again and put the spotlight on this amazing discovery. And I hesitate to even use the word discovery because I never in my wildest dreams would have imagined something like this. It had to be shown to us. Yeah. But this is an absolutely real thing. And we had to bring it to public awareness again. And you know, God's timing is always perfect, right? Yeah. So the timing is right. And it's coming into the world at a time when we really desperately need it. But it's so amazing because there are five chapters in the middle of the book. And by the way, the book looks like this. Yeah. Show. I love this is what we're here for. I love the. Yeah. It's a great cover. And forward by Tony Robbins. And you know, the, the middle five chapters of the book are just stories. And the hardest part of writing this book really was deciding which stories we were going to put in there because there's so many that was out of 10,000 stories. We had to choose some for the book, but there are stories about health and stories about abundance. Yeah. Stories of freedom and renewal love stories. Yeah. And animal stories because, you know, this works with animals as well. It's funny that you say that because I feel like just tuning into your book put me in a really nice yummy space. We can talk about, you know, resonance or, you know, heart coherence. But my cat actually would cut every time I'd sit down to read the book. She doesn't do this all the time because work my space is a little stressed out. She would come and sit on my chest while I was reading your book. And I just felt I was like, she knows I'm feeling different. I'm like a magnet now. Like here's a place to rest. You're, you're finally doing good things in your work environment. Like, so that's why the book became so compelling and important to me. But again, I'm a science brain. I love proof. I don't know why, but even the stories about heart transplants where a patient, a recipient would identify, and I'm talking about a child, somebody that wouldn't be looking over medical documents would correctly identify the name of the donor, what they were doing at the time of death as the story about the, a lot of the window. And then his recipient knew his age, his name, Tim, and that he would stop touching his power rangers because the kid was reaching for a power ranger as he fell through that window. Like, right. That's a twilight zone. And I don't mean to like get into the again, but stories really move the needle, Dr. Nelson. And I think I needed this book because I'm too in my head, you know, and I will give you, this is probably something you've never thought about, but I have a show about artificial intelligence. I get up every day and fight the fear of this dystopian idea that somehow a computer is going to replace us until I really got into your book. I started to shed that fear and said, you know what? I have a beating heart. I have literally the biggest influence in the universe. No machine's going to replace me. I need the world needs to get through this collective moment that it's, it's literally going to be okay. Yeah, that's what I was telling a lot of our practitioners recently that one of the nice things about being a practitioner of the emotion code, body code, belief code, is that your job is secure because AI is never going to be able to do, you know, what you do. AI can't really hear the voice of the angels around us and so on. Just not going to happen. It's just just a tool. It's just a tool, but there is a collective freaking out moment. I think a lot of people, their jobs are being replaced. They're dealing with emotion. There are, there is a mental health crisis. And, and I love all the people I know that work on the mind, but the subconscious is a difficult, it's so difficult to change a person's mind by reading a book because you're only getting information to the conscious brain, but you have a complete methodology embedded in this wonderful book, like all your books, of helping people understand the wisdom that's inside their body and we're hardwired to heal. So again, if a little bit of information can reach that point, and I, I will attest, even the cats know when I'm getting to the good stuff, this is so important. And I think it's far reaching. I think you were not done yet with your, you know, with your body of work because obviously I do, I do find it like a discovery, a groundbreaking, uh-huh, for me. That's that there are so many takeaways from this book, Dr. Nelson. So yeah. Well, it's, it's been, it's really been a labor of love to write this book. And my wife, Jean, is the, is the co-author. The first time in one of the books, although she's had a huge influence, obviously on everything that I've done for so many years. We've been married for 44 years. We've got eight kids. Yeah, congratulations. Thanks. Yeah, it's been, it's been a lot of fun. Fun that you can share the work. Was she pretty pivotal in choosing stories and then just really kind of shaping the narrative? I, it's a great read. So whatever her contribution is. Yeah. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Um, we, we did the, the whole book together and um, she is, um, she's really an amazing writer. Um, much better, I think, than she realizes. And so, um, so yeah, it's been, it's been really a labor of love, you know, between the, the two of us. And really, love is really the operative word here because see, when, when that wall is taken down, there are stories in the book, uh, where people talk, talk about how for the first time in their life, when that wall was taken down, they actually knew what it meant to feel love. Or what it meant to feel the emotion of joy. But the most profound thing is the stories where people suddenly feel for the first time in their life, the love of God for them that is always present, right? It's always there. It's filling the world. But we're often not tuned into that particular frequency. And if you have a heart wall, then because that's where that frequency, where, where the love frequency is received, it's not received in your head or your, your neck or, you know, whatever, it's received by the heart. And so when you take down that wall suddenly, amazing things happen. When that wall is taken down, then suddenly that pure essence of who you are is free to radiate out into the world, right? And, and things start being drawn into your life that you really want. And it becomes, it becomes much easier to actually follow your heart, right? Which is nice. But if you got a heart wall, which about, you know, a little over nine out of 10 people have this wall. And so it's kind of the norm. And of course, people don't know they've got a wall. But, you know, if you, if you've, what I find is that if you've been through a breakup, you've got one. Yeah. If you were ever bullied as a child or if your parents, you know, had difficulties, went through a divorce, anything like that, you've, you've got one. I mean, nine out of 10 people, about 93% to be exact. We think. Right. Well, no, and I can, I can see why, okay, so I can see why traditional methods. Again, if I'm like looking at how to change behavior or how to get a grip or, and I can see why if you're in that lizard brain, having a panic attack or you're in fighter flight, you can witness how breathing calms those heart rate, that everything calms that down. But if you're not looking at that underlying cause, which can be as simple as an early childhood memory of not belonging, I love your wife's story. I love that consciously she's not able. It took this dream and you tapping a subconscious, you know, level for you to even interpret, well, where is this coming from? And what I love about your methodology to is you don't have to be this cerebral detective. This isn't like a true crime scene where you're gonna have to use your ability to do it. You're in fact, it's the opposite and you're teaching people to tune in. You want to talk it all about that methodology. I find it really fascinating that you're really teaching people to listen to wisdom that's already there. Right. Well, you know, everything that's happened to me in my life really has prepared me to bring this work into the world. When I was when I was young, I became a computer programmer. I was actually going to be why you Hawaii and I made it one more class in computer programmers in 1980 and I took a class on computer programming and I mean, I was just absolutely mesmerized and fell in love with computers, even I mean, what you could do then was so limited. The eighties. Yeah. Yeah. But I became a computer programmer, but that really set me up so that I could understand later when I got into practice how the subconscious mind within us, the spirit within us, you know, again, conscious, whatever you want to call it, can be communicated with as a binary computer, which means that it can give yes or no answers. And so in the books, we teach people how to do muscle testing, how to test themselves, how to test other people, how to get information, how to talk to the subconscious. And really the emotion code, body code, belief code, heart code are they're really just all about that, about really cracking the code on this internal computer within us and giving people away, it's like these all these books are kind of like the Rosetta stone of the subconscious mind, allowing to finally talk to it and get answers about what's going on. I mean, how important is that? It's just, it's really amazing. I'd love to take credit for all this stuff, but I know that it's I don't, you know, it's not about me. I just work here and it's really from up above. And so that's fine. I think it's important though, you know, I feel like we all get a piece of truth so that we can kind of bring it together, you know, and kind of compare notes and feel it, but I feel like sometimes truth just speaks to truth. Your truth spoke to my heart. I can just tell you that. It was something that was missing. I think because I am and people don't realize they're having an experience of being solely in a part of their body. They're not aware that their actually, their consciousness is actually in their hands. So they might not even, they ignore a lot. I think, and I'm just going to say this that I think that women mask their heart walls, supremely well, they learn to deal and soldier on. They're not aware. I, you know, I have a daughter. So it's really important that I teacher. Your emotional guidance system is a super power. Don't shut that off when the tears come. Don't soldier through life. Like that's not important. And somehow we're all robots, you know, it's really important. I just see the thing that's, you talk in your book about people dying from a broken heart that that symptom where the left ventral balloons out of grief. I mean, this is, this is a very real topic. But I think it's really timely because engaging where you're really at emotionally checking and emotionally, learning the techniques that you suggest, everyone needs to do that for themselves. Well, it's really true. Yeah, people die of a broken heart. And, and of course, Western medicine, is very aware of that. And doctors understand that now. It's called cardiac syndrome. And, yeah, there are some really interesting stories about that in the, in the heart code book. Yeah. So, so yes, I think we're living in the age of the heart. And the future that's coming, you know, on all the shows that I do, I talk about how the earth is in labor. And it's, it's trying to give birth to this new world of unconditional love and peace and joy that's trying to be born, right? And, and this work is really a key to that. You know, Jean, in our travels all over the world, we've had people come up to us who've told us, and live events, you know, they'll come, someone will come up and they'll say, you know, what I had a, I had a near death experience where I saw this, this work, transform the world. Yeah. Or I had a vision or I had a dream. It's, yeah, it's pretty wild. I remember, yeah, anyway, we, a lot of stories. I, but here's what I want our audience to understand. Because I think we're always a receiver, you know, and your body, you're just, your work opens up this idea of where all we are all capable of cracking our code. And we're all inherently built in this miraculous way. Your unique gift is to be that receiver and to pay attention to it. I had a dream not long ago where I, I've always had kind of a rift with my mom's sister. She's, and she's a scientific wonder. She's multiple degrees in the sciences. And, and there is nothing, she loves me. And I love her. But I essentially stole her sister when I was born. And my mom was very young. And, and that put her, you know, put a little bit of a spin on our relationship. And it's, she's kind of my nemesis in life, which isn't fair to say, because I love each other, but there's always a bit of that. And so my heart struggles with that. And the other day, I had a dream about holding her, hugging her. And the place where we connected Chester Chest, left like a, oh, it was like the movie Avatar where things were glowing blue. But right around my heart was this blue light. And I'm like, like, you know, I'm like, what the heck does that mean? But do you know that within that dream, I can feel complete forgiveness, complete release of anything stressful. And I knew that was important purely on that, right? Just for my own health, I need to give up whatever this is. I can now go out in the world. And when somebody cuts me off or really makes me angry, I went, you know what? There's a reason I had that dream. I know what it feels like to forgive. That's a gift. I need to get into that coherence right now. And you described it in your book. I thought, what's going on here is this was I imagining what you were going to tell me in that book, but talk a little bit about heart coherence, if you will. I mean, I, it's a, it's more technical. But what is that feeling in that state that's so important? Well, right. You know, when we are feeling positive emotions, like love and compassion and gratitude, our heartbeat becomes more coherent. And that's when when the heart is in a state of coherence, that's when the communications from the heart, which really are the most important communications, I think, because the best ideas, for example, that you'll ever have will come from this brain in the heart, this little brain in there, not this brain, but come from heart brain. And that's when we can, you know, that's when the subconscious mind, the heart can communicate with the brain. When we're feeling negative emotions, when we're stressed out, you know, we're feeling anxiety and fear and dread and so on, the heart rate is incoherent. Man, so we're not getting the communications from the heart. Instead, we're operating up, you know, with this brain up here. And the fascinating thing is that when you have a heart wall, now we haven't proven this yet, but this is a study that we're, you know, we're hoping to do soon. When you have a heart wall, it's even harder for you to really get those communications to the brain. And when you're operating from the brain up here, the brain in your head, life becomes just a battle of logic, right? And the problem is, you see, the brain in your head feels nothing. So think about it. Here we are. It's 2025. And you would think that after all this time, that mankind would have advanced to a point where we don't really need to drop bombs on people. We don't need to have war. We don't need to use war as a political end, right? We could achieve our political desires and so on. But no, we're still there. Like, nothing's ever changed since then. One, why is that? Well, you know, nine out of 10 people have this wall around their heart, so they're operating from the brain in their heads, they're not really feeling anything, because they feel with this brain, with the brain in your heart. So this is one of the big reasons why, I mean, I think if you could wave a magic wand and you could remove the heart walls from everyone on earth instantly, the world would instantly transform. Yeah. I believe. But I don't think you have to get rid of all of them, because, you know, we've had one of the most amazing near-death experiences that we were told about was a woman back in the 70s who was beaten to death by her husband and goes to the other side. And she sees this work opening people's hearts. She sees it transform the whole earth in about the space of like one second. And she said, well, there are only thousands of us to this angel that was her guide. And he said, millions will hear, but only thousands will remember. And we only really need thousands, right? So it's reaching a tipping point, right? Where we open enough hearts, our goal right now is to open a million hearts. And that's why this book is here. And everything is in here. So you can learn how to do the whole entire process in here. In fact, if you want to, I can't think of a better Christmas gift, really, for people than the Heartcode book. Right. Right. And if you go to my website, my personal site at drbradleynelson.com, that's drbradlynelson.com, you can get, you can get the copy of the book, the digital copy immediately. Right. Which we have, right? Yes. Yeah. And if you order five books or more, you get a free heart wall session with one of our practitioners somewhere. And do all your Christmas shopping right now. Get all your friends and family members a copy of this and let them change their lives. And yeah, and get a free session for yourself. It's a really good deal. I just wanted to throw that in. I love it. I'd be shameless in the plug. That's why we're here. No, listen, I like I say, I've had the experience. You really, you affected me sent me on a trajectory. I never dreamed I'd meet you. I don't always know why I podcast. I feel like there's something about the frequency of the voice that's healing, but to put out this message and I'm and feeling the truth of it. I know this, I'm, this is what you say, the heart holds the key to your deepest healing. Yes. It knows what you need to release and how to love freely. Again, the heart code is how we unlock that wisdom. I will tell you that this resonance that you speak of really is the key to peace on earth, to understanding that we're part of the whole. And then even when we don't think we can change minds, we can literally affect hearts. I think a million is we're going to go further than you think, friends, and we'll start right here. And we'll put all the links in there. So you remember that it's Nelson S.O.N. all the links to buy these books. And you've blessed me so greatly, friend. Thank you for coming back and finding me when I needed this. You are really onto it. I really, yeah. It's great to see you. Thank you again so much for having me on. And yeah, happy holidays. Happy holidays. Come back when you've got studies for those of you that need a brain tuning and really, but I'm telling you, I'm one of those people. So I am I am I am I'm all about it. Thank you. And stay tuned. This is Cindy Gilman and you're listening to discover your potential. So until next time, do something nice for yourself, but do something nice for someone else.