Camping in the Snow, Aussie Waterfalls, & A Trip With Zero Bear Sightings: Listener Episode #20

Family chips with the nicest brothers Family chips with the nicest brothers Here we go Hey, Baji! Hey, Suvi! How is my brother boy? I'm great! We are lamenting the end of the Pittsburgh Steelers season. We all saw it coming. We kind of saw it coming. We got a little hopeful, but it came to a close. I had that unenviable task of telling the boys this morning, and they were pretty good. Axel came and woke me up at 5.40, and just said, Did they win? And I said they didn't, and he went, Oh, I'm going back to bed. So that was pretty great. That was maybe the one upside, as he was so bummed he didn't want to hang out with me at 5.40. And then Ash, I have a couple of things to say about Ash. One is when we talked about it, and I said, It's easier for me when they get blown out, like the heartbreaking ones, the ones I still think about are the ones that turned on one play, and you certainly couldn't say that about it. We could have had it. We could have had it. And then Alexi's out of town, so I got in the elevator this morning with all three kids, and it was a pretty good morning, and I said, I'm going to give everybody their grades for this morning. And Addy got an A, and Ash got an A, and Axel got an A minus, because it took him a really long time to put his sweatshirt on. And then Ash goes, I'm going to give you an A, because you really kept your cool about the Steelers. I was like, Oh my God, how do you already know this? How do you already know how much I'm fighting it? But the other great thing is my brother-in-law, Zach Heinz-Reyling, he's from Houston. All right. And the four of us were hanging out the other day, and Zach was saying, I asked him, I was like, are you a Texans fan? He was like, no, you know, because we were, I was a Houston Oilers fan, and then they moved to Tennessee, and I was a Titans fan. And, you know, the Texans were never really that good, so I never really had a rooting interest in the Texans. And so then I wasn't with him, but he dropped off his daughter, goes to school with my boys, and he saw the boys, and he said, ha-ha, I got you guys. And Ash said, oh, so now you're a Texans fan? Ha-ha-ha-ha. Which I really liked. Fair burn on Heizerling. And then, you know, again, I posted it on Instagram, because I will say, I'm going to take this season as a positive, because, you know, one, that Raven's game to end the season was so thrilling. And two, we went to the Steelers with the boys. Yeah. And it was one of the highlights of my year, for sure. What would you give Dad as a grade based on the Tex chain thread with me, you, Mom, Dad, and Dad's best friend, Denny? I would say Dad was in the C-minus range. Yeah. Did he, I mean, I think there was maybe an F word before he let us all know he was going to bed. Yeah, he was going to bed also with, like, it was conceivable that we, you know, it would be unlikely, but conceivable, that we could have turned it around, and then it just, I mean, it was the, it was like stepping on a muddy hillside, how fast it went south after he sent that text, but there was still a chance. No, that was right. That was not the end of things. I agree. Right. And I am sure Mom was still watching and was like, I'm here till the bitter end. Yeah. No, I bet it's pretty tense at the old, I was going to say our address, but, Yeah. You know, my last thing I need is them getting more fan mail. That's my fear. That's why I'm not giving everybody my address. Yeah. Also, we, well, you know, we podcasted from your house. Yeah. We recorded an intro and then you popped it. Oh, that's right. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. But then also, you know, so we talked about how we went on a nice big hike together, in Los Angeles, but then we had to, we recorded that intro before we went out to your birthday dinner. Which was awesome. It was a surprise. Again, like, you know, I sort of am seeing through these surprises, which is fine. The end result is, Yeah. I get a great dinner with some great friends. Right. You know, you kind of know what surprise is coming. Yeah. That was saying, yeah. Well, one of the ways I knew a surprise was coming is, I asked you what time is dinner? Oh, I know. And you said 640. I fucked up. Which no one's ever booked a 640 dinner reservation. No, I still said that. I was like that time. But I was like, you know what? I kind of was like, yeah. Also, we, you know, we went, I mean, you took us out a bunch of our great old friends, Ike Bernholz, Dave Stassen, Liz Kikowski, Jill Benjamin, Betty Stassen. And it was at the Ivy sort of fancy spot that I haven't been to in a good long time. But also even the surprise of going to the Ivy, you were like, maybe it was a half hour before we left. You're like, it's at the Ivy. I hope that's okay. And it's like, all right. Yeah. Well, now I know that too. Yeah. I guess I thought that it would be the people would be, you know what? I was handled poorly, but also I was supposed to surprise you. We talked about this and that also didn't land. But you didn't know who was going to be there. I didn't. It was all great. It was all fantastic. Oh, again, you know, one of the great benefits of my life is how many one chapters of my life I've shared with you. And because of that, how many friends we shared. So it wasn't like I was going out to dinner with friends of yours that I only know because they're friends of yours, even though those people are lovely. You know, it wasn't like I had to like dig up any numbers or anything. And it was really fun. And it was like a long, it was a very long three hour dinner. And it was just everything you wanted to be. And it wasn't too big. I will say that was the other nice thing. And I think we were like eight people. And so I kind of got a chance to talk to everybody one on one as well. Yeah. Yeah. I will say there's that thing now that I sort of, I mean, you know me about Instagram posting. Oh, interesting. I think it's interesting for your take here. I think it's awful. And it's really helped the digital footprint of this show. Yeah. There was a bad picture. One picture was taken of us at that dinner. And then our friend Jill posted it. And then so many other friends of mine were like, oh, you did something big for your 50th. And I was like, yeah, but I didn't know. And my brother came in and he surprised me. And like it was, he organized the dinner. Like Mackenzie didn't organize the dinner. He did. And so please, and people are like, oh, yeah, yeah. Okay. Okay. But yeah. All right. And so ultimately, I think that's when Jill fucked you. I mean, she did. Her gift was, yeah, I guess, I guess. Also, like, except for Jill and Mackenzie, everyone looks terrible in that picture, I think. Yeah. Do you, would you have, if you'd known she was going to post it, would you have said like, hey, maybe because it's my birthday, because that's an interesting thing. I know exactly what you're talking about. When people are like, oh, you, so you did do something. Yeah. Would you have said, hey, maybe don't post that? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Can I say something, a note for both of us? Sure. We should have known she was fucking posting it. I'll tell you that much. You know what I mean? Like looking back, she, she'll be posting, she'll be posting. J, J, JVP as we call her. She'll be posting. Oh, can I tell you, I'm, I'm going to brag about, a joke I told on the show last night. Okay. But it's like, it was like a mid interview brag. Okay. So I had this actor, Lee Byung Hun, who's in this terrific new movie, No Other Choice. And he, you know, by the way, his English is great, but it's also a second language. And he was a little concerned before the show. But then during the interview, everything was just going, smashing and he was crashing and he was telling really funny stories. Incredibly charismatic guy, great actor. But then at one point he told the story and then I made a joke at the end of the story. And, and he goes, may I ask that you slow down a little because I want to make sure I don't miss anything. And so then I really slowly said, what I just said was really funny. And then he laughed. Not bad. I'm pretty proud of myself. Hey, have you, we'll stop. I mean, I'm, you know, I know this is a listener episode. We're going to get to it. But we had an interesting phenomenon happen. Also, how do you feel about me wearing a late night sweatshirt, which is what I'm wearing right now? Like, do you feel like that's... Well, I'm on board. I wear our family trip sweatshirts all the time. Yeah. So I, we had this actor from Heated Rivalry on the show. Oh yeah. By the name of Connor's Story. I will just say that Connor's Story was not a name I knew three weeks ago. The first time I heard the name Connor's Story was because my talent department said, this show's really big. We want to book this guy Connor's Story. I'm like, go for it. We, I receive more personal ticket requests for people to come to the show that Connor's Story was on. Then I have for anyone outside of Taylor Swift in like three weeks. He is a big deal. He's a big deal. And Heated Rivalry. Heated Rivalry is a fantastic show. It's about two hockey players who fall in love. And so, you know, it is based on some young adult books and it's a gay romance, the likes of which I've never seen on TV. It's also very steamy posh. I know you like a little bit of a warning when something's going to be steamy. But I was also trying to do my job as a talk show host to watch the show so that I could be informed before asking my questions to Mr. Connor Story. And so I had it on my work computer and then I had to go do something. And so I paused it. I just so happened to pause it mid-steamy scene. And then Shoemaker, Shoemaker comes in, takes a picture of it on his phone and just sends it to me. And he writes, he wrote a typical. Yeah, it's always people who are like, oh, no, I'm happily married. I got this thing going on and, you know, maybe they have some other inclinations. No, I just look. It's like, I will say it's nice when you got a talk show because you're like, this is just talk show stuff, baby. Yeah. Hey, we're going to take a quick break and hear from some of our sponsors. Support comes from Hexclad, Apeachy. Hey, Shufi. You like to cook? I do like to cook. You know what? I love cooking on, though. What's that? It's a nice pot or pan. 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Rates as of January 1, 2026. Existing customers can view their variable APR in the wallet app or at card.apple.com. Apple Card is issued by Goldman Sachs Bank, USA's Salt Lake City branch. Terms and more at applecard.com. All right, we have some listener stories. We're very excited as always. Thank you for sending them in. And now we're going to... First of all, Sam, have you seen Heated Rivalry? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. So, Sam, this is one of the things I'm really taken with is this shows a huge hit with the ladies. Yes. And I can't quite describe why. Do you think you can explain to me why you think it's such a huge hit with the ladies? I think it is just like we haven't quite seen this on a show before. Like, I don't know. Yeah. Like two hockey players falling in love. Like we've obviously seen gay romance, but maybe because it has to do with hockey and you just... You're so invested too. You're like, I don't know. It's... Yeah, the hockey stuff is actually pretty good. Yeah. The... I have another... I think it's really funny to watch it because there's no... No, it's the first rom-com. It's not a rom-com. It's a romance. But there's no meet-cute. Yeah. Like, Pashi, these guys, if you're like, I want to watch it, but I'm not into the hook and up stuff, enjoy the first seven minutes of Heated Rivalry. And I'm like, I kind of like that too because a lot of my gay friends are like, that part was so refreshing that they were like, we're not going to pretend like this is a heterosexual romance movie. You know, just like... Anyway. And they did. They shot to fame immediately. They were like at the Golden Globes too. I mean, it's crazy. Yeah. So much has happened for them immediately. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah. Shout out to both of those guys. Just like a hockey game. It's a puck drop and then it's game on. The puck goes down, game on. Yeah. Yeah. All right. We are ready for our stories. I knew Sam. I knew Sam as a dirty dog. I knew she'd be like deep in that. Like I was so confident. She's a cultural maven. She needs to know what's going on out there. No. Same way you do. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Let's hear our first story. Hi, Seth and Josh. This is Greta calling from Seattle. I just finished listening to your episode with Jim James and I was thinking, that's a fun idea for a listener feedback episode maybe. Bear encounters. Because who doesn't love a good bear story? In the spirit of Jim James, here's my bear encounter story. So, my family is a core five family. A typical vacation for us was driving to a national park for a week. Being typical kids, all we wanted was to see a bear. We'd seen a couple of black bears and yellow stones, but they were more of those drive-by bears. The ones from your car. When you're sitting in an endless line of cars, not exactly the kind of wild bear encounter we had envisioned for ourselves. Until the summer, we visited Glacier National Park. Famous for grizzly bears. The first couple of days we were there, we did a couple of guided hikes. We all had to wear bear bells and we were advised to sing or talk to avoid surprising the bears we knew were just around the next bend. Or the next bend. Or the next bend. And though we saw evidence of recent bear activity through poops and claw and scratch marks on trees, we never saw an actual bear on those hikes. Probably because we were making too much noise. My older brother and I, we were probably around 10 or 12 at the time, we were allowed to go out and explore on our own as long as we stayed with an earshot of the cabin. And while wandering around, we discovered an old bear trap that was hidden in the woods. And it was what you would exactly imagine a bear trap to be. One of those big metal cages where you go in, there's a piece of meat hanging from a hook. So of course we had to climb into the trap and poke around. And although we knew enough not to mess with it, for whatever reason, it didn't register with either of us that this was actually a live trap. And after a minute or two, we got bored and continued on with our adventures elsewhere. That night, it finally happened. A mother grizzly and two cubs went on a midnight rampage. They were digging through the garbage cans just a few feet away from the cabin, just feasting away and having a grand old time. The cubs were rolling around, playfully with each other, playfully with their mother, who eventually wandered away, entered the trap, took the bait and got herself caught. It was everything we imagined our wild bear encounter would be and more if our parents had bothered to wake us up for it. Which they didn't. When the opportunity presented itself in the safest way possible, did our parents think to wake us up? No. We heard about it the next morning from everyone. It was all everyone, anyone was talking about, how the mother and the cubs had been raiding the garbage cans for weeks and were finally trapped and hauled up into the back country. To this day, we still haven't forgiven our parents for it. They have never given us a logical reason for not waking us up other than they just didn't think to. Happy New Year and keep doing what you're doing. Thank you for that wonderful story. Thank you also for the idea of asking for listener questions for something specific like bear stories. Yeah. We did want like in October, we were like, let's do Halloween stories. Something like a bear encounter is a great prompt. Yeah. Because like every time we ask Jeff for ideas, he's like, Valentine's Day. What about Easter? Well, jeez, we get it. We know the holidays, Jeff. I also get the sense that maybe this was in an era where like cameras weren't like free and easy. You know what I mean? In this day and age, you would be like, I would not have to wake up the kids. We'll just make a video of the bear thrashing around in the trap. Yeah, but looking out your cabin window, you're not going to beat that with camera footage. That's good for showing people back in the city, back when you get back to Seattle. Remember when we went to Iceland, they woke us up at the hotel because the Aurora Borealis were out. Yeah. Although, I mean, you, yeah, I think we've mentioned this, but you signed up at the front desk. If you wanted to be woken up, if there were Northern lights, but you got woken up by the stampeding feet on the stairs of everyone because someone got word or someone looked out their window. I remember I was like, is there any other stuff you might want to wake us up for? And they were like, what do you mean? I'm like, like if there was going to be like free nachos, you can give me for that. Chicken fingers. Chicken fingers, yeah, that's really the truth. I was worried, I was worried that something bad was going to happen to that mama bear when she got trapped. I'm glad to hear that she just got driven up into the back country. I feel like our listener, like there was a sweet tone to her voice. I don't think she would have shared a dead bear story. Yeah. Yeah. But you don't know me. Yeah. You never know though. That might have been the twist. I mean, she didn't see it, I guess. Yeah, that's true. None of it was seen. Oh yeah. And then they took the bear to the back country. Yeah, that's where she lives with her cubs. To this day. That thing about like missing out, so Ash last weekend went on a ski trip with kids from school and I wasn't, it was an overnight at a hotel. I wasn't there because I was with my brother. Because of four seasons. It was a beautiful four seasons. It was like a two seasons having seen the inside of it. But I went and we, fortunately he had a parent, a mom of his friend had him, but I went up, but he hadn't stayed at the hotel with all the other families. And so he skied on Saturday and then I went and met him and then we had dinner with all these kids on Saturday night. It was so fun. But the night before it was sort of this like ramshackle old, like they, what is it the Overlook Hotel from the shining? Like one of those like long hallways, you know, old in feeling. And he had a lot of FOMO because like, I guess the kids had like all like woken up kind of would like sort of tacit parental approval because they heard it was a haunted hotel. And so just like a bunch of kids like marauding down the hallway, like ghost hunting is what they were telling Ash they were doing. And then the parents told me that because there was like a parental WhatsApp group that they, they got contacted by the hotel being like, get chickens. I thought the parental WhatsApp group was going to be like, we got, someone's got to dress up like a ghost. Oh yeah, that'd be better. Yeah. The perfect payout to that story be like, and then, well, we didn't know hotel had a bear trap. Five of the kids. Ankle up. Ankle up. And they just got taken to the back country. Oh, also, there was like a, it was this very fun thing where like hanging out with parents in like a bar, which, you know, you never like socialize much with the parents from school, but like everybody was staying at this hotel. So like there was, it was like a loose vibe that was really fun with a lot of these parents. And I know from like pickup drop off and I'm big fans of, but getting hanging out with them was really cool. Yeah. And then there was another like kind of playroom where like the kids were doing stuff. And in general, like, I, you know, we keep an eye on like what Ash is like consuming, but like I didn't want to be like the one parent who was sort of hovering. Right. And, and then we had like a, we had to drive home afterwards. So Ash got in the car and I'm like, did you eat any sweets? He's like, I maybe had more cookies than usual. And I was like, how many did you have? And he went eight to 15. It's not a gun. Cause like, you know, it ain't eight. And then like five minutes into our hour long drive, he's like, I don't feel well. I'm like, you roll down your window, you'll be fine. And then he, uh, he puked so many. He's like three full pukes. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Three full. And I'm, I will say, not to pat myself in the back. I did a fantastic job of like not getting angry and like being like, all right, okay. And like I pulled over to a gas station. And then he was like, oh, God, thanks dad. I feel so much better now. I gotta be honest. I think I ate too many cookies. I'm like, yep, no, that definitely was it. But we had a real nice like, like, you know what crisis, right? We're through it. It doesn't matter. Um, he's like, we maybe need to roll these windows down. Cause I feel like mom's going to be able to smell this. I'm like, we're definitely going to roll the windows down. We like just drove home in the freezing cold. And he's like, I'm like, I'm going to roll the windows down. I'm like, I'm going to roll the windows down. We like just drove home in the freezing cold. Those good times. Also with that, waking kids up in the middle of the night. I remember like wanting to buy your kids, um, like things that would glow in the dark, like little glow in the dark rockets or like nerf rockets, things like that. But I feel like for the longest time in your kids lives, they didn't know what night was. Like they, they had never seen the world dark. And, uh, I sort of had to wait until they would either be awake early enough or go to bed late enough to even have a concept. And I feel like, I feel like they learn that much later than, uh, Yeah, they were aware of like, I would say like, yeah, like we treated night like screen time. Don't give them any night. We're really trying to limit their night. Yeah, you did a great job initially. We did a great job. Um, all right. Thank you Greta. Thank you Greta. Great story. Uh, uh, great is an anagram of Greta. All right. Good one. Good one. Uh, next story, please. I sent the Josh Lother podcast. My name is Stephen and I hail from the most isolated city in the world, Perth, Australia. And when I was a young boy back in the late 80s, early 90s, I would go on these awesome family vacations with my grandparents around our amazing, but extremely large state of Western Australia. We had the an old four wheel drive. I think it's like a Nissan Patrol or something like that with the bed in the back and a caravan in tow. We were pulled into deserted country roads or caravan parks when needed and to sleep and take breaks from driving and see the sights. These incredibly long trips that would take days and I can't stress how extremely large Australia is driving would be extremely boring. It would involve lots of car sickness and laying in the bed at the back, which in those days, obviously a thing, but very unsafe. I read many comic books and when diary the trips and listen to the same tapes over and over, that would change when we pull into a town. My grandparents were involved in the local tourist industry, so they knew all the people and we'd actually hear about the cool and interesting things to do that locals kept to themselves and went on the maps. That's printed maps. This one memorable time where this amazing gorge in the middle of nowhere in the Kimberley region and you really need to dig into tourist maps or local tourist centers to find out about these places back then. There was no signs up of other people as per usual. So I went running down the path to where this apparently amazing waterfall would be back in this time. You hardly saw people at these amazing places, which now would probably be run over by influencers or blocked off for the protection reasons. Such an amazing experience to have and I look back at now and think, wow, I really was lucky back then. So as I got close to the waterfall, I stumbled across probably the first naked girl sighting I've ever had and it was in the wild. I think there was two or three wearing nothing but a smile, quickly rushing to their clothes, which weren't exactly nearby. Back then there wasn't exactly a camera in reach to even try a snap of photo unlike today. We did have a camera, but it was limited to 20 shots and you had to carefully pick them. Needless to say, I wasn't sure what to do, but I wanted to see the waterfall and they had high-tailed it out of there quickly. Funny enough, it was just like the other 20 plus ones I'd seen on the same trip and many others. At that age, kids used to get excited easily, especially back in the days without computers. These girls had disappeared by the time my grandparents got down there. No idea where their car would have been, but WA is a big state. So yes, I would go to the Grand Canyon if I made it to the US, but probably just a quick look. As I've seen many sites that are just as amazing if not more. Also Seth, bring John Oliver and come to Perth and you can't do one straight in the accent. Keep up, keep up with the good podcast. Stay with me. Thank you so much. That is a fantastic story. I like that there was, he said the thing about the pictures. Like I had nobody had cameras as if you and I were going to be like, you get any pictures? Or can you just send them DM those to the show? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, you get any? I didn't think naked ladies was coming, did you? No, I did not see naked. I thought he was going to maybe like just run off a trail and splash down, like run over the edge of a waterfall. Naked ladies, always exciting for young gents. Yeah. And you know what? I don't think you grow out of it, Posh. It's funny. There's like, you know, we go, our fantasy football league, we get together once a year for our fantasy football draft and I feel like there is a subset of guys that are just like still so like, oh my gosh, boobs. And then there's like the other half is just like, yeah, no, they're great. They're nice. But like, it's not something that we're all at the course of the day being like, oh man, I was just thinking about. You know what just popped in my head again? But that was great. I will say like that. I would love to go to Australia. Ever been. Love to go to a car park there as well. And Seth, if I might, I think that we've got better Australian accent. Well, I'm now my tweaking Kiwi. Yeah. I think your problem is you're going a bit, I with the odds. Yeah. I think that's right. I don't know. We knew a couple of Australia. How's that, Steven? Not bad. Not bad. I wouldn't shake a digiory do that. Oh, yeah. That was not. Okay. I don't know. I feel like you were in the pocket there, Sioux. I was in the pocket. Yeah. The pocket of Northern England. All right then. What else you got for us, Sam? Oh, wait. I just got a text from Jeff. Oh, yeah? What about 4th of July? Hey, we're going to take a quick break and hear from some of our sponsors. Support comes from AG1. Hey, Bajie. Hey, Sufi. You know why I started using AG1? Why's that? I heard you talking about it on our podcast. Sometimes these ads work on ourselves as well. It's a good reason it is any. Yeah. And I, you know, I use it. 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AG1 has over 50,000 verified five star reviews and comes with a 90 day money back guarantee. Go to drinkag1.com slash trips to get their best offer. Get three free AG1 travel packs and three free AGZ travel packs plus free vitamin D3 plus K2 and AG1 welcome kit with your first AG1 subscription order. That's drinkag1.com slash trips. Drinkag1.com slash trips. Hi, Seth and Josh. It's Anusha from New Zealand. My trip story is a family trip staple, one of memorable chaos. So I'm originally from India and moved to New Zealand in 2009. When I was still very new to the country, my husband and I, along with friends of ours, decided to cross off camping from our top adventures list. We had never been camping before, but we decided to, as the Kiwis love saying, give it a go. I was in charge of planning and the men on our trip were going to share driving duties. Cashing in on the Groupon craze, we decided to partake in some discounted adventures along the way to our camping destination. Being new to New Zealand, I decided to rely on Google to guide me on the best camping sites. And I decided to go with one that had an iconic mountain in the background. We finished our adventures on the way and my friend who was at the wheel asked me for the address of our camping site. It was already late in the evening on that early November day. I gave him the address and he turned on the GPS and didn't really pay attention after that. We kept driving and driving and driving. My husband was getting concerned now as it was very late. We hadn't even set up our camps or had dinner and we had an early start for a white water rafting trip the next day. I checked the address again and reassured them that we were on the right track and that it was going to be worth the wait as we were going camping at the foot of the mountain. My husband looked at the photo of the campsite and said, wait, is there a snowy mountain in the background? I said to him, yeah, but it's late spring now so it'll be perfect. As we were setting up camp, which no surprise was so much harder than we expected, one of the fellow tourists wandering around looked at our cheap, changed store tents and asked, are you going to be alright in these? It's going to snow tonight. Turns out I'd set us up at the foothill of the famous Mount Tongariro Alpine Crossing and it snowed there even during spring. Much panic ensued as we were also travelling with two young kids and we decided to panic rent some small cabins on site for the night while our newly set up tents remained empty. It was the white, it was the wise, albeit less adventurous move as it did snow that night and while our tents were dry inside, I can't imagine it would have been anywhere as comfortable as our toasty cabins. Those young children are now in university, but they've only recollect the trip even now for the unforgettable tale of camping or not camping as it were in the snow. Thank you guys and love your pod. Thank you. Thank you Anusha. Yeah, if you get to a campsite late is one thing, it's such a bad move. But late and then also, oh, it's going to snow here. If you're not prepared for that, it's cabin. 9 times out of 10. You know that thrill you get when, I think a lot of people get it when like plans get cancelled and you just get to stay home. Yeah. That would be how I would feel if like at the last minute instead of camping, we went to a hotel. Yeah. Especially if it was not my fault. You know what I mean? Like if somebody was like, you know, if like you and I were going camping, you're like, Hey, Sufi, I took us to a snow mountain. Do you want to go in this kick-ass cabin instead? They got some rooms available. Like that's the dream. I'm like, oh, credit for saying yes to camping and now I'm here. Yeah. And so I bet those kids were so psyched too. Yeah. But kids are, I feel like kids are more resilient in like the cold. You could, you can bundle them up better. I feel like they're better on harder ground than adults. Their bones are still, you know, have some give. I mean, I would have, I would probably wanted to, to gut it out, stay in that tent. But yeah, also if it's late and there's a cabin right there, it's tough to say no to. And kids, once you got kids, you got to be like, well, party's over. Yeah. You're going inside. And then like if you wake up the next morning and there's snow on the ground, I feel like that's a real, that bolsters your case for having made the choice to go cabin. Absolutely. Yeah. I would, I do like the idea of going for a camping trip in New Zealand though. Yeah. Love the reach of the pod by the way, Posh. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Getting over there. Yeah. I mean, we have so many accents to perfect. I know. And to make people be like, oh, you're bad at that. You're bad at that too. Here's my, I'm now going to do an Indian woman who moved to New Zealand in 2009. Can I ask that you don't? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So you said we maybe have something that's less of a story and more of a follow up. Yes, we do. One second. Sam was rewatching heated rivalry. She was a little slow. Yeah. Another cool thing about heated rivalry, Posh. What's up? Everybody's super positive, full time. Oh. Because you think, you think it's like, oh gosh, couple of professional athletes trying to keep their romance a secret. Like everybody they meet is like, just live your life, man. Live your truth. That's pretty awesome. That's nice. And you think like at one point, it's guys like, one of the guys is like, hey, am I, they're at Sochi, they're at the Sochi Olympics. And he's like, oh, my friend's a figure skater. We should go see him and someone like, and then you think one of the other hockey guys going to make it like a joke about how he's gay. Yeah. And he's like, wow, it's really brave that he'd be in Russia because, you know, they have some real draconian laws about that. Your friend's really cool. Canadian. Canadian shows are the best. Yeah. Although there is also, there's about to be a Canadian, it's like Canada Shore or Canadian Shore. It's like a Jersey Shore in some town in Canada. So I don't know if every Canadian show is showing off Canadians in the best light. Yeah. I agree with that. Yeah. All right, Sam, what do we got? Well, we're going to, we're going to continue our talk about Canada actually with this in our follow up. Great. Hello, this is Andrew from Winnipeg. After the Bob Odenkirk episode, a lot of people in the city went, wait, his experience is not actually what the city offers. I think we're something like in the top 10 of restaurants per capita in North America. So my question to you guys is, when are you going to come here to correct Bob's experience? Now, if you're coming here in the winter, let me warn you, it can be something between, you know, minus 15 to minus 40 Celsius. When it's minus 40, it's basically the same in Fahrenheit. But we offer things like Festival de Voyageur, which is a outdoor French festival at minus 20, or where you can skate on the river, where we put like fake trees and you can rent skates and it's like a couple of miles. Or you can come in the summer where there are pop ups for beer and food trucks and music festivals and things like that. Come on down to Winnipeg. You'll really love it here no matter when you come, even in minus 35. I feel like I would tilt summer. Yeah. I would say the chances I would, the percentage chance I would go in the winter is also minus 35. I thought Odin Kirk gave, I thought Odin Kirk really had a fondness for Winnipeg. I think he did. I think he maybe just kind of threw a little shade on the restaurant scene. Okay. Maybe, yeah. Which is, and by the way, like I would love, love to go to Winnipeg. I would love to go to Winnipeg. Did you stand up? Yeah. It's one of my favorite things in the world. Just to like go to a new city and I'm, you know what? I'm going to try to reach out and make it happen. Yeah. I guess, I mean, it wouldn't take too much Googling to figure out what theater up there you would play. Or where it is. Yeah. Like what part of Canada it is. I do know like it is, I remember just reading like Pittsburgh sports writers who would go up there to cover Penguins games. I remember one of them saying like, it's the coolest place he's been in his life. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, but I'd love to go to pretty much any Canadian city. They're good. Yeah. Canada, Canada's Colin, Sioux. We got to go. Canada's Colin and are we going to pick up the phone? That's the real question, Pashi. Yeah. Did they remember to dial a plus one first? Is that what we are? That's what we are. Yeah. Yeah. Well, very good. I mean, it's always nice to hear from our listeners. Yeah. And also to try and correct the record. If someone. Yeah. And by the way, we're never looking to besmirch. If you ever feel as though your city got a raw deal. If you feel besmirched. If you feel besmirched, unsmirch it. Maybe we need a segment of the show called the unsmirching section. Or desmirching? The desmirch. The desmirchification of your city. I'm just worried that if we say, you know, we're going to dismerch, people will hear it as the smurfs. Oh, yeah. And they'll be bombed and there's no smurfs content. Right. There's a lot of people that are just hungry. Do you remember buying like little toy smurfs? Yeah. Oh, yeah. We were into the smurfs. But it is still, it's amazing to watch like that's the never ending scam of how like kids just want to like collect different chachkies. Yeah. Of a set. Well, that's the thing about smurfs too. There's so many of them. So many smurfs. And then I mean, the one thing I'll say is like we bought a lot of the smurfs and then you know, I recently sold them all and bought a castle in Ireland with the, I mean, they've kept their value. Oh. Yeah. I see what you're saying. What'd you do with your smurfs money? I donated it to charity. Oh, that's great. Was it for people afflicted with smurfism? Yeah. It was people who ate too much of that colloidal silver and skin blue, those people. Yeah. Blewed up. But the best thing is they then all, everyone who became a smurf was also then good at one thing. They were either very vain or a good at a chef. This is so funny. They were like all jobs of them that just like the vain one. Well, he was the fashion one. He was, yeah. He was kind of, he was probably and hot couture. Yeah. All right. Thanks to our listeners. We have some good ones. Some good ones. Do we have any more comments or are we, is this? Oh yeah. Do we have any, I don't want to rush out of here, Sam. No. I know you do because you want to. That's it. All right. Seth, what was the end of that sentence? No, I'm just like, you know, let's just say things are about to get heated. Well thank you everyone. And we'll, yeah, we'll, we'll think about some prompts for some episodes this season. I think that's a good way to go. So I appreciate Greta for sort of lighting that fire. Yeah. And yeah, we really appreciate all of you listening from all over the world. It sounds like that's, yeah. It's very flattering and very nice. Yeah. We love everybody. And happy birthday again, Pashi. Thank you, Sufi. It was so nice of you to come out and. Oh, we did leave out that before this started, you said that I left a sweatshirt and a computer charger at your house. Yeah. I did not stay at your house. I simply went over there for a few hours. Yeah. And then your computer charger was plugged into a strange outlet in my kitchen. And at one point I unplugged it and I rolled it up and I put it on top of your computer and then you left it plugged into a different weird plug that I like never use. Yeah. That happens a lot. I also left my ear pods at the hotel. By the way, I was packed. You could attest, I couldn't have impact lighter. Oh no. I mean, it was a little shoulder bag. And so it's amazing. Like I think I left my first, third and fourth most important thing. Like I brought nothing and I left it all. But you know, that's how it goes when you're Sufi. Yeah. It was great. It was a great birthday and thanks again for that. And yeah. Love you, buddy. Love you too. Do it. Do it. Yeah. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. 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