Hans Von Spakovsky, Trump Ballroom, Astronaut Clayton Anderson, Kid Rock

now on 105.9 FM and streaming worldwide on the WMAL app O'Connor and company it's 7 0 6 good morning thanks for tuning in here to O'Connor and company on your favorite radio station coming up in 30 minutes astronaut Clayton Anderson give us a preview of tonight's historic launch America going back to the moon wow and we're bringing a Canadian with us 835 Reagan Reeves daily color White House correspondent Slaria Connor with Patrice on wukas trees joining us right now I can't I can't Virginia did Patrice is joining us on her spring break off the Virginia coast and the light of seeing an amazing sunrise over her shoulder I can't see her though that's alright journey is right now Hans Von Spikosky senior legal fellow at Advancing American Freedom and of course an election law expert Hans good morning thanks for joining us well thanks for having me and I should tell you I'm seeing the sunrise in Key West because I'm also on spring break are you gonna be able to see the rocket from King what it would you I should be should be able to see the Artemis to launch from Key West once it hits a certain height well in fact we're gonna have our binoculars out and we're gonna be looking to see if we can spot it that's like very exciting good for you and enjoy Key West and beware of those cats though don't pet them they're nasty it should be interesting today how often people refer to a person known as Wong Kim Ark born in San Francisco 1873 to lawful residents of the United States that seems to be the tipping point here on on how birthright so-called birthright citizenship has been just sort of adopted since that decision well yeah although that that case is almost 130 years old and I think people are exaggerating though those who are challenging the president are exaggerating what it said because that case simply extended citizenship to the son of permanent resident aliens there were no illegal aliens in that case and what we're talking about here is the citizenship clause of the 14th amendment it's very simple it just says you're a citizen if you're born in the US and subject to its jurisdiction and that second phrase the challengers to Trump just want that to just basically be ignored but what the Trump administration did with an executive order is they try to restore the original understanding and the original understanding of that phrase meant was when you were born you owed your political allegiance to the US government and if you are born to Mexican citizens who are in the US whether they're here legally or illegally you're automatically a Mexican citizen so you owe your political allegiance to the Mexican government that's what this case is all about that's simple language and how it should be interpreted seems simple well it's going to be interesting to that president Trump will be there in the audience listening to the oral arguments Hans we're expecting him to speak later in the in the day do you think you think we'll hear from president Trump just talking about this case specifically and and and also some of his challenges with the Supreme Court most recently well yeah in fact there's no president as far as I could see no president has ever intended Supreme Court argument so it's another first one of many for for this president you know I'm no I'm a member of the Supreme Court bar and normally there's tight security to get in I can't imagine what it's like today if the president is gonna it's gonna be there now remember this case was up before the Supreme's almost exactly a year ago but back then the issue was the universal injunctions yeah being issued in various cases all across the country and the court came back they didn't rule on the birthright citizenship issue but they issued a 6-3 ruling and the president's favor saying universal injunctions are not recognized in American jurisprudence and it's the way people in favor of this interpretation of the 1873 decision would have it you know if the Ayatollah came to New York to speak before the United Nations and and his wife gave birth that that child while in New York right that child would now be a US citizen boom even though the Ayatollah was only here and I know the Ayatollah is either in a coma or gay or whatever but you know what I'm saying the baby would be a US citizen and and I guess then would be an anchor baby and the Ayatollah could come here and be a citizen I suppose or if a family is traveling and visiting Disney World for a week and a baby is born while they're visiting Disney World that it's outrageous Hans but that's exactly how this has been interpreted and I keep hearing oh it's settled law it's settled law it has never been challenged at the Supreme Court since that 1873 decision has it no it hasn't been and what the what the opponents also don't like to point to is there are two other cases at the Supreme Court both of which are unfavorable to them and one of them was called Elk v Wilkins and in that case an American Indian sued saying hey I should be considered a US citizen because I was born here and in fact the Supreme Court said you are not a citizen why because you owe your political allegiance to your tribal government and that's exactly the interpretation that the Trump administration is pushing that the original sponsors had and that's why even look what the US government's been doing now for decades recognizing birthright citizenship that's an administrative aberration that is not the way the original 14th amendment was intended to be interpreted Hans let's shift gears just a little bit and talk about an expected executive order President Trump is planning to sign that would tackle mail-in voting across the United States he's going to require that the Secretary of Homeland Security create a list of verified US citizens who are eligible to vote in each state using some different federal government data sources including social security data and then states would have to take that list and verify it and work with that list in that list only obviously the left is already planning to sue against this you know what what do you think from a legal perspective about this executive order well look I think it's a good idea for the federal government to be enhancing its current database that it has at Department of Homeland Security using as many other government agencies as possible to come up with a verified list of citizens that election officials can then check but look we all know that blue states places like California and New York they are absolutely not going to use that list because they don't want to know that aliens are on their registration list and voting California is one of the worst places for that as I'm sure Larry knows yes I do sadly you know one of the one of the thing came up yesterday in conversations about election integrity and it came from a very unlikely source I think Nancy Pelosi was talking about the midterm she said this with this president and these Republicans who have no commitment to the rule of law and doing things the appropriate way we're ready we have three purposes now one is to win the midterms two is to make sure the elections are safe and three to tell people what we will do when we win and that is that that is the mission the all there's so many things that you can do to protect the election and they are being done whether it's litigation or legislation or just there's a mobile mobilization communication all that but in addition to that we have to be on guard as to what they may try to do to the technology they may try to creep into the technology and create a false count Hans first of all I was reliably told that that kind of talk is dangerous rhetoric that is meant to undermine the integrity of our democracy itself I know that because that's what thinking Nancy Pelosi would say secondly I was also told that there's no way to hack into these machines and change the vote count well it's kind of interesting that Nancy Pelosi picks this up of course remember again she's from California which doesn't even require an ID vote in the biggest state in the in the country so look no one should believe anything she says remember when she was a speaker of the house she pushed through and the house passed HR one which would have completely taken over the running of elections by the federal government and had provisions in it like one that would ban all states from having a voter ID law that that's the person who just you just heard that quote from right all right Hans we'll leave it there I know you'll be paying attention to the arguments today and as we get closer to the decision we'll get your interpretation of what the justice has had to say and we'll get your prediction but for now enjoy Key West and enjoy the launch tonight great thanks for having me Hans von Spikowski boys and girls it's 716 next role with Vernon Davis the transformative journeys of athletes artists and entrepreneurs ladies and gentlemen lights out Sean Merrim I want to be the biggest and the best one I do and so whatever it takes I'll get it done in business and everything else all I do is know how to fight and earn what I want my man Malik asked what actor comedian what you want to collaborate with me Jamie Foxley Kevin Hart in a movie we said it on Vernon Davis podcast and so we'll circle back be like yep it's gonna clear next role with Vernon Davis follow and listen on your favorite platform those same people who are screaming at the sky during the no Kings March this weekend are also just obsessed with the proposed Trump ballroom the White House ballroom the president Trump is overseeing and helping to design New York Times did a bizarre article you know with architects talking about the design and everything you know Trump doesn't know anything about they're not involved in the project whatsoever correct who isn't the New York Times the architects oh no yeah they had expert architects give their judgment about it yeah exactly you know expert architects like the people who designed the HUD building downtown something like that anyway so of course he's a little angry about that so and also a recent court ruling a judge has said that they're trying to block the building well I don't quite see how a federal judge can block the building of a facility that government money is not being used to to build right um so he put out a post about this on truth social thing the National Trust and Historic Preservation sues me for a ballroom that's under budget ahead of schedule being built at no cost to taxpayers and will be the finest building of its kind anywhere in the world and then I get sued by them over the renovation of the dilapidated and structurally unsound former Kennedy Center now the Trump Kennedy Center they show a bipartisan unicy or Republican and Democrat president where all I'm doing is fixing cleaning running and sprucing up terribly maintained for many years building but a building of potentially great importance he goes on and on and on about this and he's now on Air Force One with renderings of the of the ballroom to show to the reporters they're saying no look it's great here's why here's why and during this whole thing it's been revealed you know there's bunkers under the White House they've been there since Franklin Roosevelt and there should be and part of this part of this reno of the East Wing that's turning into a ballroom is to expand significantly the infrastructure underneath the White House the bunker for wartime and emergencies and things like that which should be kind of secret that's very nice going nuts on this pictures the left thinks that Trump is building some sort of secret military operation under the White House and it's all part of the the coup or the cabal or something they're not they're absolutely nuts and it should be secret but now because of of these blocks and these that they're they're revealing things that shouldn't be revealed to the public it's it's a complete mess you know I number one I think that's even more of a reason for the the ballroom to be demolished and rebuilt and having a very strong operation underground for the president to continue to operate in his entire cabinet if God forbid something you know were to happen and we needed to huddle everyone in one safe secure space it makes perfect sense for this to go on it's just sad that you have these federal judges who think that oh I'm gonna flex a muscle here I'm gonna stop the president from doing what is reasonable right now I mean it is absolutely reasonable you may not like how big it is you may not like what it looks like but it is reasonable for the president to want to ensure that the ballroom is re is rebuilt and to have a secure safe space underneath I'm confused by it I did judge Richard Leon is the DC circuit court who has put a block on this and said that Congress has to bless this all they had to do is like write a line in a legislation that says we approve of the construction of a ballroom that's it because there is no money to appropriate and judge Leon is pretty solid I mean I know this judge I've I don't know him personally but I've had interactions with him I'll put a leave it at that he's pretty solid on his decisions and on the law he's not a radical TDS kind of live as far as I'm saying so I'm surprised by this they will challenge it I'm sure as well they should it is kind of interesting that the judge used 18 exclamation marks in his opinion oh times four times he started his refutation of an argument made by the defendants with please with an exclamation point I think that might have been a clerk but how it got past the judge I'm not sure we'll see we'll see what jurisdiction a federal court has over a construction job saying that the Congress has to chime in even though no federal money is being used it seems to me that that's the kind of thing that well will be litigated at a higher court let's just say of course we'll see where that stands but I again assuming this goes through and Trump finishes the ballroom every single Democrat who wants to be president should be asked at their debates during the primaries will you tear down the ballroom that's just been built I'd love to hear their answer to that because they can't win they know they're not going to they know that they think it's a good idea but if they say they won't tear it down then they'll alienate the radical libs who nominate Democrats to be president so they're sort of caught in a catch 22 it's like it's like tearing down the wall and going back to Biden's immigration policies which you know that they secretly would love to be able to host ballroom events when this new ballroom and it's done so that's the record every Democrat here will tell you that this is a great thing for the executive branch and for the president it's long overdue the only we don't like the way he won about doing it please it's a God or company thanks for tuning in on this first day of April coming up later in the program at 835 we're going to check in with Reagan Reese use White House correspondent for the caller Larry O'Connor here with Patrice on Wulka there are we not thrilled and excited right now about tonight's big launch down at Cape Kennedy we're actually joined by a real live rocket man astronaut Clayton Anderson author of the ordinary spaceman from boyhood dreams to astronauts he joins us right now to talk about this extraordinary Artemis to launch today as we return once again to the moon and I got to ask it astronaut Anderson I know you've seen extraordinary things you've done extraordinary things admit it you want to go sit on top of that rocket today with your friends you want to go on this mission don't you oh my god I am so envious I can't even stand it this morning can you tell me this is from a guy who has spent over 160 days in space and six spacewalks but there's something about the moon so tell me what exactly is this mission going to be because I saw the the diagram of the route and it is it like a slingshot around the earth first and then to the moon is that what that is yeah so the first thing they're going to do once they launch is they're going to enter a very elliptical orbit around the earth and that orbit which typically in orbits about 90 minutes an hour and a half this one's going to be about 24 hours so that they can test out a lot of the systems that they need to understand that they work the toilet the oxygen generation system the co2 removal system the exercise device hold on have a boy can I just say that there's there's something so real and human about you Clayton Anderson saying the first thing to test has to be the toilet if the toilet ain't working we're aborting the mission yeah sometimes you would say that we had the the toilet failed on us on the space station on the Friday night one time and and I was pretty nervous for the whole weekend but we got it fixed so thank goodness all right I love it but all those things are going to be tested in or hopefully tested in the first 24 hours before they'll then do the burn that takes them on the way to the moon and before they even do all that they're going to do a little bit of playing around with one of the spent stages and they're going to test the the they're going to drive the vehicle they're going to test the handling characteristics of the Orion capsule which is a very important thing to see how it feels when you fire the jets and that it's doing the right thing and then they'll make that burn that will take them on the trajectory toward the moon and they will not orbit the moon but they'll go behind the moon which will use the lunar gravity to kind of slingshot them back on the figure eight trajectory and the figure eight is called what they called back in the Apollo days a free return trajectory I say if they go on the way to the moon and they don't do anything at the moon the gravity pulls them back around so they get to come home for free oh I see and and how exact is that and obviously I know a lot of this stuff is sort of handled by the computers and all that stuff especially at this point but that's got to be an exact trajectory doesn't it I mean if you're if you're off by a little bit that could mess up that return home yeah there's a little bit of play in that but you know we did that back in the Apollo eight days and we understand it very well we understand trajectory design and manipulation quite well and with today's computers and capabilities you know it allows us to be even more exact than we might have been back 54 years ago right in the Apollo days so you know they're pretty confident that all that's gonna work so they're making a lot of the fact that this is literally they're going where no man has gone before because this will be further and deeper into space than any human that we know of has gone on one of these missions why are they going so far beyond the moon is there a a scientific reason to do that or is it just you know what we've never done it so let's do it because that's part of the spirit of these things well I think it's you know to stretch the envelope a little bit you know you want to test everything to the maximum extent that you can on any given mission and so sending them deeper into space not only does it put them in the Guinness Book of World Records but it allows them then they'll come back faster than anything that the shuttle ever did and so now they can test the heat shield which knock on wood I know there are some people out there that are very adamant that the heat shields a question so hopefully all that's going to work and anytime you do this you want data you want information so that you can decide that your your design process and everything you're doing is correct and will keep everybody safe so these are big tests this is a big mission a big test mission and people need to keep that in mind you know forgive me if I missed it but you talk about the different roles that the different astronauts will be playing I mean is there somebody who's the designated cook or is everybody just doing everything at one time well you know back in the shuttle days the pilot always cleaned the toilet so I don't know if they have a designated cleaner but you know we always did meals together and it's kind of a fun bonding time you know to eat your food and prep your food and share your food and talk about the day but you do have a commander who is the leader and then you have the pilot who has differing responsibilities from the commander but some of them overlap the two mission specialists worry about other things the other systems that are involved and the spacesuits so everybody's got has different roles to play to make sure that nothing gets dropped right that everybody has something that they're responsible for so they know that they've covered everything so from your trained eye I mean obviously you've been in space multiple times you spent a lot of time there you know so much of what's happening here what are you going to be watching for tonight during the launch what I mean I'm a kid I just love the giant you know the drama of it all and the spectacle of it all what about you well this is a interesting time for me I'll be listening carefully because sometimes having trained on all this you know the calls that you hear give you an insight into how things are going I'm hoping everything is nominal is normal that that every call is exactly what you expected to be and that they get safely to orbit that's the first part get them safely to orbit get them in that 24 hour orbit that allows them to begin their testing and and just the excitedness in their voices right I can only imagine how exciting this is going to be they're going to see the earth from a new perspective then they're going to see the earth disappear in their window and they're going to see the moon get bigger and then they're going to take great great cameras that are better than we ever had probably and take pictures of the lunar surface that will give us detail that we've never seen before so it's a very exciting time I think the the rocket is gigantic of course as you need for a moon launch you know anyone who's ever been down to Florida and seen the center in five is just absolutely incredible feat of engineering and modern Marvel is is the thrust different I mean I guess what I'm saying is you've had to leave earth's gravity and get up there so that you could do the low earth orbit on the space station and spend all the time in space will this thrust be a different level of thrust or once you reach a certain point of these you know forces on you your body just it's all about the same no this one's about I think eight point eight million pounds of thrust the shuttle is about six point seven and so you need a lot of thrust to lift lift the rocket of that size right so you need more thrust because it's a bigger rocket than the shuttle was yeah and then you have to lift all that fuel and so most of the thrust is used to break earth's gravity because of the weight that you're lifting so you feel it will have yo yeah they'll feel it they have two solid rocket motors on the side which make it really bumpy and really shaky so it'll for the first couple minutes it will be very vibrational and then when those pop off and you're on liquid fuel only the ride smooths out a lot and it settles down a lot and that's when you begin to accelerate and you know feel that you're heavier than you are normally so it's quite a dynamic right at what a great experience right a memory of a lifetime I feel like such a kid right now I cannot wait I'm sure I'm honestly I'm getting goose pimples right now as we talk about it this is going to be amazing and for the first time ever for a moon mission we're all going to be able to see it wherever we are from a little super computer sitting in our pocket and I will argue that the technology that brought us our smartphones was all born because of the scientific discoveries in our space program going all the way back to the friendship seven missions that's what we do this for astronaut Clayton Anderson enjoy it tonight I envy you Godspeed Artemis to thank you man it is 745 next roll with Vernon Davis to transformative journeys of athletes artists and entrepreneurs ladies and gentlemen lights out Sean Merribee I want to be the biggest and the best when I do and so whatever it takes I'll get it done in business and everything else all I do is know how to fight and earn what I want my man Malik asked what actor comedian what you want to collaborate with me Jamie Foxley Kevin Hart in a movie we said it on Vernon Davis podcast and so we'll circle back be like yep you're gonna clear next roll with Vernon Davis follow and listen on your favorite platform all right so let's put a button on a story that we talked about I think two days ago on the cool video a kid rocks home he lives on a mountainside in Tennessee with a beautiful infinity pool by the way that just sort of disappears up to what the one take away from this story is I should have gotten into music instead of instead of talking about it but anyway two Apache helicopters came and sort of hovered right off of his clip there and sort of like it waved at him and he waved and saluted it was very cool and he shared that on his Instagram well then the pilots got suspended oh you're not supposed to do that kind of thing I guess you're not supposed to do a flyover at kid rocks house but Pete Hegg's secretary of war yesterday posted the video on social media and said thank you kid rock US Army pilot suspension has been lifted no punishment no investigation carry on Patriots so there you go yeah I well I understand you know he's probably fine about it I kind of think the suspension was important because you don't want to set the precedent of okay if we like the guy the musician we can just hover over and if we don't we can hover over and throw eggs you know I mean well I think there is a difference though isn't it I mean if the person you're hovering over loves you and starts cheering you and salutes you then what's the harm and and and yes if you're in the military and you go when you start taunting and harassing an American citizen because you don't like them I would support that suspension but that's not what this was yeah but what happens if it's someone that you know you may love and you think they love you back but in behind the scenes they're like oh somebody's hovering you know military is hovering over my house I really there's an old saying I just think that I'd be worried about the precedent it's sense there's an old legal moral ethical precedent called no harm no foul in this case no harm there shouldn't be a file full send golf you guys know how much I really really love golf and I think every week would be dope to post on the golf channel I want to get a lot of guests on here so we gonna take leave I'm down to be in it it's not really work to play golf join the party on the golf course I was like let's go to the range so what are we putting on we said 10k right 10k all right we probably bet more than all the other golf channels right 10k nine holes those guys bet for like cookies I'm gonna shank this guy's been training like a Navy SEAL when it comes to golf I'm very very excited you excited yeah full send golf follow and listen on your favorite platform