The Traitors Official Podcast

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42 min
Feb 13, 20262 months ago
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Summary

Bob the Drag Queen and Boston Rob break down Episode 9 of The Traitors, analyzing Rob's manipulation of Eric into becoming a traitor, the strategic murder of Dorinda Medley, and the growing suspicion around Johnny and Tara's revealed friendship. Guest Dorinda Medley reflects on her elimination and Rob's charm-based strategy that kept her loyal despite being targeted.

Insights
  • Rob Roush has successfully positioned himself as leader of both the traitors and faithfuls through strategic charm and information control, creating a unique dual-power dynamic rarely seen in the game
  • Eric's immediate behavioral tells after becoming a traitor (silence, avoidance, anxiety) make him vulnerable to detection, suggesting emotional control is as critical as strategic thinking for traitor success
  • Transparency backfires: Johnny and Tara's revelation of their friendship immediately created suspicion rather than trust, demonstrating that honesty without strategic framing damages credibility in high-stakes games
  • Rob's strategy of having traitors answer 'Tara' for every mission question is more valuable for creating confusion than winning money, prioritizing information asymmetry over short-term gains
  • Female players (Dorinda, Maura, Natalie) were particularly susceptible to Rob's charm-based manipulation, suggesting gender dynamics play a significant role in trust-building and betrayal in competitive settings
Trends
Emotional intelligence and charm as primary manipulation tools outperform logical argumentation in high-stakes social gamesInformation asymmetry and controlled confusion are more strategically valuable than financial gains in multi-round elimination gamesBehavioral inconsistency detection is becoming a primary threat vector for traitors, requiring consistent emotional performanceDual-role positioning (trusted by both factions) creates exponential strategic advantage through information arbitrageGender-based trust patterns emerge in competitive social dynamics, with charm-based strategies showing differential effectivenessTransparency without strategic framing actively damages credibility in adversarial game environmentsFirst-day traitor performance anxiety creates detectable patterns that experienced players can exploitAlliance visibility (public friendship revelation) increases vulnerability to coordinated targetingMentor-mentee dynamics between experienced and new traitors create teachable moments but also dependency vulnerabilitiesFashion and presentation consistency contribute to perceived authority and trustworthiness in social hierarchies
Topics
Traitor Selection and Recruitment StrategyEmotional Control and Behavioral Consistency Under PressureInformation Asymmetry as Strategic AdvantageTrust-Building Through Charm vs. LogicGender Dynamics in Competitive Social GamesFirst-Day Traitor Performance and Detection RiskAlliance Visibility and Targeting StrategyMurder Decision-Making CriteriaRoundtable Accusation DynamicsFashion and Authority PerceptionMentor-Mentee Traitor RelationshipsFaithfuls Leadership VacuumMission-Based Information GatheringBetrayal Justification and Narrative ControlLong-Term vs. Short-Term Strategic Thinking
Companies
Peacock
The Traitors Season 4 airs exclusively on Peacock, with new episodes released Thursdays at 6 PM PT / 9 PM ET
TH Studios
Production company that produces The Traitors Official Podcast in partnership with USG Audio
USG Audio
Audio production company co-producing The Traitors Official Podcast with TH Studios
Studio Lambert
Provides music and clips for The Traitors Official Podcast
People
Rob Roush
Traitor strategist who recruited Eric, orchestrated Dorinda's murder, and established dual leadership over both trait...
Eric
Newly recruited traitor showing significant behavioral tells and anxiety on his first day in the role
Dorinda Medley
Murdered faithful guest who reflects on being charmed by Rob despite being targeted for elimination
Bob the Drag Queen
Co-host of The Traitors Official Podcast providing analysis and fashion commentary on Episode 9
Boston Rob
Co-host of The Traitors Official Podcast offering strategic insights and game analysis
Kristen
Faithful player identified as fashion icon and strategic threat due to intelligence and observation skills
Johnny Bananas
Olympic figure skater whose revealed friendship with Tara created suspicion and credibility damage
Tara Lipinski
Olympic figure skater whose public friendship revelation with Johnny backfired strategically at roundtable
Natalie
Faithful identified as observant and strategic threat who nearly discovered traitor identities
Steven
Faithful accused and voted out after weak defense and counter-accusation strategy at roundtable
Maura
Faithful player charmed by Rob and locked in on Johnny as suspected traitor
Alan Cumming
Castle host who adds diabolical twists to missions and maintains control over game mechanics
Mark
Traitor wearing vintage-inspired fashion, part of Rob's traitor coalition
Quotes
"Rob Roush is running that turret. Rob Roush is running. The only thing Rob is not running is the round table, which actually is quite smart."
Boston RobMid-episode analysis
"I'm in love with Rob Roush, so he can do no wrong in my book."
Dorinda MedleyGuest interview segment
"Because she trusts me. That's, this guy is cut throat, man. Yeah. And he does it with a smile."
Bob the Drag QueenMurder decision analysis
"I would kill Kristen. If I was Eric, I would be like, I need that. I need that."
Boston RobStrategic prediction segment
"Rob is low-key the leader of the Faithful. They all trust him."
Boston RobFinal thoughts segment
Full Transcript
Hey there, and welcome to the only room more tense than the breakfast table and more chaotic than a mission meltdown. It's the Traders' official podcast. Yes, honey, the number one podcast in the world. Move over, Joe Rogan. Watch out, Amy Poehler. We're coming for you. And we've got daggers. We are your official headquarters for every banishment, betrayal, and backstab. I'm Bob the Drag Queen. And I'm Boston Rob, and we're not ready to leave the castle, so we're keeping the spirit of the game alive right here. And if you're just joining our conspiracy for the first time, welcome aboard. A little late to the feast, yes you are, but we're glad you're here. This is where we break down every lie, every alliance, and every iconic exit from the most devious show on television. And let's be clear, we don't leave anything on the table. That means full spoilers are ahead. So if you're not caught up, this is your final warning. Turn back now. We're going to talk through Episode 9 beat by beat, and then we're going to be joined by the queen of the castle, whether it's Allen's or Bluestone Manor, Dorinda Medley. We're going to discuss her time in the castle and her murder, so go ahead and get excited for that. Next, I'll give my expert insights into the fashion from the episode. You like how I'm now the expert on the fashion, Rob? And then we'll give our final thoughts and predictions. But for now, let's get into tonight's episode. When Rob reveals his face, Eric is floored, which tells me that obviously Rob is doing it as best as anyone's done. He's doing a great job as a trader to keep his, you know, his role low key. but what do you think about him choosing Eric as the person to join him in the turret? Well, I'm scared for Eric, to be honest, because Rob does not have a good track record with traders. Let's just start with that. And, I mean, so if I were Eric, I would accept it, obviously, because I don't want to leave the game, but I just watched what you did to two other traders. So I would be having an eye out for Rob the whole time, but Eric just doesn't sound like a type. He's too sweet and he's too, I don't know. See, I think from Rob's point of view, what he's thinking here is he thinks Eric's very cerebral. He thinks about the game correctly. He understands the move. He's calculated. But I don't know if that's going to translate into Eric being a good traitor. Listen, in case you missed it, let's take a look at it right now. Well, listen, man. I have an ultimatum for you. You can either join me, become a traitor, or I'm going to kill you right now. This is a sick and twisted game. You're a smart guy. If you choose to join arms with me, I'm fully confident we're going to win this game. All right, I'm in. God, what am I doing? I need a helmet and an adult diaper, because I am about to shit my pants, and my head's about to explode. This is so stressful. Love him or hate him. Rob Roush, he's actually much more camp than I realized. Like, he has some really good one-liners. He's leaning into it. I mean, at some point, this has to catch up with you mentally, watching people just struggle so hard and just dominating everyone. But so far, he's just doing a great job. I agree. I think Rob, like, was born to play this role. And then Rob turns around and tells Eric, Yeah, I know you're stressed. Baby, we got a murder tonight. They get back up to the turret, and they discuss who they're going to murder. And they deliberate, and they deliberate, and they deliberate, and they choose Dorinda Medley. I do think getting rid of Natalie would also have been a viable option. Well, Natalie has a little bit of heat on her. So you always want to keep someone around with a little bit of heat, because they could get banished at some point in time, although it could sow confusion. I actually do think Dorinda was their best choice. It can't come back to them. She was never going to get banished. No one thought Dorinda was a traitor. I think Rob Roush is running that turret. Rob Roush is running. The only thing Rob is not running is the round table, which actually is quite smart. He runs the castle. He runs the missions. He runs the turret. And then he sits back and he takes a comb at the round table. I agree. But I think he's involved enough at the round table where it doesn't make him look suspicious. so let's hop over to breakfast so we come in um they're coming to breakfast and everyone is on johnny's ass like johnny is it's about to be nothing but an uphill battle for johnny going forward and it's because candace was like johnny should have a shield i think they're just reading they're reading too much into that well i mean that's how it is when you're out there like one thing that somebody observes, even if it has nothing to do with what actually is going on, if you get the collective consciousness going in that direction, people latch onto it and they don't want to let go of it. So now Eric is... Eric's first breakfast... What? Hold on, spit it out, Bob! Sorry, Eric's first breakfast is a traitor. He is like... Oh, he can't, yeah. Oh, the bagels are nice, Like he's so quiet. He doesn't want to engage. He doesn't want to look anyone in the eye. He is shook, shattered, and shorn. I feel like Rob, at that point, he had to have been second guessing his choice. I mean, Eric is shitting bricks. Like, let's take a look. This is my first morning as a traitor. I mean, this, look at this. Why does the chair look even bigger now? It looks like he's like sunk into the chair. It looks like his neck grew. High fives. High fives. I am so scared of saying anything. So just don't say anything. Oh my god. Avoiding eye contact. So how would you feel being Rob watching Eric at breakfast? How do you feel now after you've made your choice? I mean, now at this point, I'm thinking to myself, well, if we have to move it towards Eric because he's acting suspicious, it's an easy sell. Oh, and Rob will do it. Oh, we've seen him do it. Rob does not give a fuck. He will throw you to the wolves, honey. And, you know, they come in. We find out Dorinda has been murdered. And Rob chooses to murder Dorinda because she trusts him. That's what he said. Because she trusts me. That's, this guy is cut throat, man. Yeah. And he does it with a smile. So we leave breakfast. And Tara is like, she is diehard for joining her right now. She is going around on a campaign. She has made it her mission. Y'all ain't going to talk about my best friend like this. At this point in the show, it does not feel like she's going to be able to save him. It doesn't. And it also, like, is not great strategy to attach yourself so closely with someone. You know, whether they're faithful or traitor or on opposite sides, like, you're going to be skewed by their decisions. And right now, there's basically literally nothing. There's no heat on the traitors. The traitors might as well be faithful. Yeah, they might as well be. They literally are hiding in plain sight. One of my favorite moments of the episode is when Tara goes up to Kristen. She's about to get some good faith. She's like, ooh, girl, I figured it out. It's Steven. And then she flips it right back. I figured it out. It's you. Let's look at that. I have, like, really strong gut feelings. Maybe it's Steven. I don't think it's Steven. I would feel so defeated. I do want to be very, very clear with you, because there has been hesitation in me. Hear me out. Only because it has nothing to do with your voting or whatever. You just seem so scared all the time. And I think I naturally, in real life, gravitate towards confidence. So then say, who do you think it could be? And if it's me, that's fine. It was you. Girl, she filleted her. She filleted, flambayed, souffled, and sauteed her in that moment. I wouldn't want to go toe-to-toe with Kristen. Kristen is intimidating. She always is just so sharp, that hair, the suits. And Kristen don't care. She will tell you to your face. I think you're a traitor. I love that, though. To me, that outwardness, that straight, raw, pure, unadulterated truth. Yeah. I appreciate that. All right, let's go on to the mission. We get to see the traitors play some real mind games this week. And they have to climb into these boxes, and they answer these questions, and they have to find out what the traders think about them. But, of course, Alan is a monster, and he does not let the traders answer the question, the turret. They have to climb out of their boxes, confer, and then answer the question, climb back. I don't know about you, but I was paranoid all the time we had to do stuff as traders in front of the faithfuls that I was going to get caught. Like, I was always wondering about, like, is it going to make noise? Is it going to be this? And right here in front of them, they're making them do it. Well, I remember, because I was being too playful. And one time, because we had to sneak around, and I was, like, dragging the dagger over the casket. And you were like, what the fuck? I was like, stop it! Stop! I was like, it's camp! It's camp! Eric is freaking out. Rob is... Rob? I don know He pretty calm What affects this guy Nothing apparently He needs to be a crisis counselor If I in crisis I calling Rob Rouse Literally So the first question is who do the traitors think is most useful to them right So they climb out, and they agree on Tara. And they get back in, and they said it's to throw the faithfuls off. That's what they said it was. Right, and I think it was okay. But, like, that was fine for a first answer to put it in there. Don't put Johnny. Like, say Tara. But the real genius comes right after this. Yes. When they come back out a second time and they decide, you know what, let's put Lipinski for everything. We got a clip of it. Let's check it out. I think if we do Tara for every single answer, it gives you nothing. Yeah. I agree. I know I picked a good one, bro. We really are. I love this. Eric is so little bro-coded. He's so excited to be working with him. This is you and fucking Dylan. When it comes to this game, the most valuable thing is information. So it's far more important to confuse them than to get more money. When they decide to do Terra for every answer, it's really smart because it's because they want money. Yes. We need money. So without saying what it is, we're just going to give you guys a clue. Look, guys, we're always going to choose Terra. So if you just always pick Terra, you will at least get some money. And everybody catches on to that except Tara and Johnny. Those two. At the end, they still don't put Tara to get the money. Attention, we are all putting Tara. But Tara's like, I'm using my dignity. I'm not going to play their little game. Do you want to leave broke? Do you want the money? Do you understand the objective? And it looks weird. Yes, it does. But of course, Alan's a monster, and his final thing is like, actually, we've one more for you. who do the traitors want to short list for murder tonight he tells them to get back in those boxes and we're locking four of them and then they all go to open their boxes up and then tara natalie kristen and johnny are stuck in their boxes and i think really good choices by rob and eric to put johnny and tara in knowing that they're not going to be murdered but to put them in because it looks like if they were traitors they would put themselves in so now we're back in the castle at least for people who are not locked in their boxes right and on the way back Maura is now when she's in the rover she is like I'm not fucking around I am 100% locked in on Johnny yes she 100% that's her that's her thing and you know other people as well and I gotta tell you Johnny does look guilty so then they're back in the castle and then this is where I'm sorry I can't I'm not laughing at them yeah I need to be clear I'm not laughing at them but Johnny and hair are hilarious. So now they're like arm in arm. Walking together. Now everyone's like, what's going on? And they're like, we're going to tell everyone we're friends. You should have said that from the beginning. But how do they not know it? They're both Olympic figure skaters. I ask, when they come forward about being, like, we were dishonest. Now I don't trust anything you said. Nothing, nothing. Okay, we were lying through our teeth up until this point. But now we're going to tell you the truth. From here on, come on. Yeah, listen, we're gonna be talking about all of this and more, so stay tuned for that. All right, let's talk about the roundtable. I mean, Tara decides to kick it off by revealing that her and Johnny are best friends, right? And, I mean, immediately it backfires. Oh, within seconds. Let's watch it. We actually got a clip of it. Yeah, let's look at it. I'm a faithful. I promise you Johnny's a faithful. How do you know that? How can you promise? Oh, no. So good. Immediately. Exactly what I was thinking, Mara. But you said, like, I'm gonna... I promise you that Johnny's a fateful. How do you... how can you make that promise? Oh. Oh. They didn't think it through! We have worked together for over a decade. 11 years. We come from a very harsh background in Olympic sports, so we rely on each other a lot. Oh, I would love it. I would love it. I would love it if Lipinski was actually a traitor. Oh, that is... And she pulled one over on him. She would never... I don't think... Can you imagine? I think for me, like, if there was another person that I'd worked with in here, I wouldn't blindly trust them in the context of a game like this. I feel like... Oh, I will blindly trust Johnny with my life. I will blindly trust Tara the whole way. We are best friends. Johnny drops the bomb, they're best friends, and then he's like, as a unit, we want to speak, and we're going to go after Steven. Right. And then Steven's like, well, that's weak. He's like, ah, that's not a good one. Natalie was on to Steven because he felt weird. And then Rob was actually considering moving in that direction. I got to be honest. I do not know how they survived this roundtable. Because at one point, Johnny says, I'm not a traitor because I'm not a traitor. I'd be like, I'm not. I'd be like, we got to have a conversation about this. Run that back. You're not a traitor because you're... In fact, the best thing he said was, because I play the game poorly doesn't mean I'm a traitor. That's actually the best... That's smart. That might have been the thing that actually saved him. Yeah. But I also, I want to take a little bit of pause in what you said. Like, I'm not a traitor because I'm not a traitor. I know it sounds really stupid, but, like, if you don't understand how to express to someone else that you're not a traitor, and the only evidence you have is that you're not a traitor, plainly stating it is maybe the most he can do. He's not necessarily, like, a competition strategy-based, you know, performer. So, like, there's a weird kind of truth to him saying, I'm not a traitor, and all I can tell you is I'm not. I think the real thing that put the nail in the coffin for Steven, and this is what put the nail in the coffin for me, when Natalie accused Steven, he just accused her back. and that looks weird. Bad, it's bad. So when Steven gets up there, this is actually one of my favorite speeches. He goes, I'm a faithful, you blew it. Honestly, if I'm a faithful, I'm going to give you a little sting. Man, we never really even got to know what he was thinking, what he was doing. I know, I wanted to know what's going on with Steven. Like, what's happening, where are you? He's not playing hard enough, which is probably going to make him look suspicious because it looks like you're trying to float under the radar. Yeah. So we are back in the castle after the roundtable. The vibes are low. I don't think Johnny really understands how the game works because now Johnny is convinced he's going to be murdered. I'm like, baby, the traitors will never murder you. The reason why you're still there is because the traitors will want to banish you next time. You know, the other thing that we saw was Eric now, for the first time, is going to get confronted by Kristen. She noticed that at the roundtable, Like, his demeanor, his actions weren't the same. And now we're gonna see whether he can handle the heat or not. Let's take a look. Question. Why didn't you have, like, a ton of stuff to say tonight? Whoo! Deer in the headlights. Eric, if I'm being very honest with you, it's like, oh, what do you think? Ugh. Ugh. Yeah, no. I'm like, say something. First of all, if you look at all the roundtables for the past few nights, I've kept all my words for the end. Tonight, I was so lost, because I was so sure on Johnny. And then he had that defense. And then I'm looking over at everybody that I trust, and everybody's telling me a different name. And I didn't want to just throw away a vote either. And that's why I voted for Steven. But at some point, you have to have your own opinion. No, no, no. Right. So, but. just follow where the bird, because then it feels like hiding. No, no, no, I don't know. She is like, I'm on to you. I think a better strategy for Kristen would be to go around to everyone else and say, hey, did you see how Eric was acting? Yeah, but then she does the classic mistake of spilling her secrets to a traitor. Let's look at it. I don't trust Eric. He's way too fucking quiet, man. Here comes this fucking snake charmer. I don't trust Eric. He like has no opinion. And he's like, oh, I don't know. It's becoming a little too much. Poor Eric. So if I'm murdered tomorrow, just look at Eric. How many times a day do you think that's said in the castle and it's wrong? She just happens to be right here. She looks straight into Rob and Mark's face and she goes, if I'm murdered tonight, look at Eric. That could be a big problem for Eric coming up soon. It's a good way to target someone, isn't it? Oh, it's great. Like, think about it. If you're playing, if you're a traitor, and like, man, if that guy's gone tonight, it's probably this person. Let's find out who they're gonna murder with this vicious little jack in the box. Honey, this is just Eric taking a master class, watching Rob, that's what it always is. It really is like a little bit the teacher and the student. Are they traitors or is he a henchman? I don't know. I'm not trying to be shady, no shade Eric. But is he a traitor or is he a henchman at this point? Eric looks at Rob and goes, if Kristen comes for me, can you help me? And I would not trust Rob. Knowing what Eric knows about what Rob has done to the other traitors why would he trust him Because here the thing He doesn have a choice He in a position He was forced into this position by ultimatum So basically what he's doing is saying, hey, listen, man, if they come for me, you got my back? And of course Rob's going to say yes. Yeah. And of course he's just saying it to say it because he can't say anything else. Yeah, I mean, Kristen. Eric's not going to rally the troops to get Rob out. That's not happening at this point. Kristen would have been like, no. The shortlisted players have been summoned to the dungeon to play a little game of a jack-in-the-box And they get down there and obviously we don't get to see what happens But it's diabolical, right? Like Alan can't do anything regular It can't be like, okay, we're gonna see you tomorrow morning No, you're gonna go into the dungeon, you're gonna play a little Boom, you're gone! Like, you know that thing you love from your childhood? I'll ruin it And I'm happy to do so It's fun to watch, though Who do you think is going home? All right, so we have Tara, Natalie, Kristen, and Johnny. I know that I would kill Kristen. If I was Eric, I would be like, I need that. I need that. And then if I was Rob, I would do it too because if I wanted to weaponize that against Eric in the future. So honestly, it's a win-win for both Rob and Eric to get rid of Kristen. That's what I would do. I think also from Rob's point of view, it's smart at this point to kill Natalie. I think Tara and Johnny for sure. They're safe. Off the table. They're safe. We're bringing them back. It's going to continue the argument. And that's it. No one, Rob, he'll find a way to put Eric in the box. I'm . The guy's brilliant. I hate it. And we'll be right back in just a minute with the faithful. So nice, she got to play the game twice. Dorinda Medley. Next up, a guest who knows a thing or two about navigating a table full of strong personalities. but even she couldn't escape the traitor's wrath. Joining us now, the recently murdered faithful, Dorinda Medley. Hi, thank you for having me. Dorinda, I love you. I love you too. We have to ask you, okay, what is harder to survive, a Real Housewives of the Union or a traitor's roundtable? The roundtable, just from beginning to end, it's very intense. Even when you're lining up to go into the round table and they start that music, I never want to hear that music again. Every time I hear the music, I literally feel scared. It sets a tone. It does. If you're not nervous or anxious, it will get you in that space. Absolutely. But to be fair, Dorinda, you have actually, at round tables, you've never had any heat on you. Between two seasons, you've never had heat on you. Well, yes, because I'm trying to keep the spotlight off me. I have to wear those outfits. I mean, I got to get some outfits out there. I've got my priorities straight this time. Well, you look stunning on this season. That's not even up for debate. You look absolutely stunning this season. Well, you walked into the castle for a second time now. You got a second chance. Tell me about the strategy a little bit. What was different this time compared to last? This time, I didn't really have any strategy. My strategy was just to expect the unexpected and try to stay under the radar for much as I can and try to get to know people and watch their movements and see how they move in the crowd. When you were murdered, was that a surprise? Yes, I was very surprised. Well, I think you deserve to see what happened. So do you want to see, like, how the other traitors decided that you were going to be the one? Why not? I think for murder tonight, we go Dorinda. She fully trusts me. So I think it's safe. Losing an ally. But I think we have enough. I think so, too. Night-night. So Rob Roush said he chose you because you fully trusted him. How does that feel to hear? I'm in love with Rob Roush, so he can do no wrong in my book. Wait a minute, Deryn. He can do no wrong in my book. The fact that even though I was getting murdered just then, but he said she really trusts me and she's my ally, I'm like, that's enough for me. You better than me. I'll take the murder. You better than me, because that would have pissed me off. I've been in a scene where I'm getting murdered and I have butterflies. Corinda, what are we doing? We went to traitors to win traitors. I know, but that's okay. You want me to be honest or you want me to lie? Would you rather win the traitors or go on Love Island with Rob Roush? Well, I don't want to be naked like they are on Love Island. I mean, that's my biggest fear, but I've got to be honest with you. I feel less bad now. I don't know why, but after I made it through the first breakfast, it was all uphill for me from there. I'm like, I'm good. I remember they gave you a standing ovation. You got a standing O when you walked through the breakfast door. How did that feel? Unbelievable, and it was very funny because at the door, I just started bawling at the door. I don't know why. First of all, you're kind of emotional the whole time you're at the Traders because your cortisol levels are so high and your nervous system is so on overdrive the whole time. So I really didn't expect me to have that kind of reaction, but it just felt like such a, for me, a redemption. Looking back at the entire experience, was there any piece of advice or conversation that you wish you paid more attention to while you were in the castle? The truth is, Maura, me, Natalie, we got enchanted by Rob. I mean, Rob was, listen, I'm a 61-year-old woman, so my sort of, like, years of being kind of taken in by a man or being charmed are not, you know, around so much. So, you know, Rob would say the night, like, at breakfast, he'd be like, oh, you know, you look so beautiful today, Mrs. Matthew. I'm like, that's it, I'll never murder you. But you did look beautiful. He wasn't lying. You did look beautiful, and you shouldn't have fucking trusted him. I'm on a one-man mission to get all the women in America to turn on Rob Riles. He had the loyalty, especially of me, Maura, and Natalie. We were ride or die for him. Was there like a specific vote that you cast or didn't cast that you look back on as your biggest regret? I really wish I just sort of threw out the chance and at least put Rob forward. Because I think it would have created a think tank of things. Like people might have shifted their thoughts on him and opened up a new thought process. I really do. Do you remember finding out that you were murdered? Yes. Let's watch that moment together. How can you forget? There it is. And let's watch that moment together and the breakfast after when everyone finds out. Let's look at that footage. Oh! Oh, my God! What the fuck? Wait, who am I missing? Dorinda! Dorinda. What the fuck did she do? Look at Eric. Overacting Eric. Look at fucking Eric. Oh, no. Miss, you knew. What? That's a cute look. That looks like exciting what? By order of the traitors, you have been murdered. Oh. Signed, the traitors. I mean, I'm very sad, but you know what they say? Curiosity kills the cat. I'm sure I've put a lot of faith into some of you traitors. And you know what? I would have loved to have stayed on. But, you know, the queen's got to get back to Bluestone Manor. Let's do a toast to Dorinda. Dorinda and Bluestone Manor. We'll see you at Bluestone Manor. We can't wait to call him. Bluestone Manor. Cheers, cheers, cheers. I love me some Dorinda. You're a little wifey. I have to ask you the most important question. Was that Chanel you were wearing when you read that note? Very old. It looked great. Now that we've gotten the most important question out of the way. Very old. And the jacket that I wore in the breakfast where I entered was old Chanel. I broke out all my old Chanel because it was the classics. You know, you remember when Chanel did that whole Russian collection? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Those were the best pieces. First of all, Eric is shitting bricks. Eric, I don't think Eric's cut out for the third shift. He's not made for this life. So he's the first one to be like, oh, no, Dorinda. How does it feel watching Eric say that when he fully agreed to sign your death certificate? You know, I love Eric, but I am surprised that he made it so far. I really am. That one surprised me. You know, listen, a little bit, I do think a lot of it is strategy, but a little bit is luck. You know what I mean? Oh, my God. You kidding me? You don't know who's going to end up in that position. And I would have loved to have continued. It would have been remarkable for me. But I was okay. I felt like I had really made my stake. Who were your true ride-or-die allies in the castle? Like, were those bonds based on strategy or, like, genuine connection? Well, I really felt bonded to Natalie because I felt like she really was switched on and watching everything. And just she was so fully in it. She's brilliant. She's smart. She's observant. She doesn't miss a trick. She almost had, you know, she just, she's very likable. But you know that she will do what she's got to do, including kill me. So it was that managing thing where you had to both befriend her but beware of her, right? Well, I think I know the answer to this question, but now that you're out of the game, is there anyone that you rooting for to win it all I would really love Kristen to win I just think she is clever and she played the game well I would take every cooking trick I could take from her because, you know, I love to cook. My dream would be to have her up at Blue Snow Manor and cook with her. She just has an aura. I can't explain it to you where you're just drawn to her. Nice. I was surprised. I thought you were going to say Rob because you were so excited that he murdered you when you saw that scene of him in the turret. Well, it probably would be between Rob and Kristen, to tell you the truth. Those would be my two favorites. What is your final message to the players that you left behind in the castle? Like, what do they need to hear from Dorinda Medley right now? I would say beware. Thank you so much for joining us, Dorinda. Next season, you're going all the way. Dorinda 2026! Stay tuned, because we've got more coming up right after this. Yay! Thank you for having me and keep on watching. Welcome back. It is time to dawn your green robes and talk fashion. For those of you listening to the podcast, if you want to see all the looks we discussed, check it out on the video version on Peacock or YouTube. And if you're only listening, you can't tell that right now, Boston Rob is wearing a bright canary yellow zoot suit with a giant hat, a huge flamingo feather, and 87 brooches. Don't gamble, kids. If you lose a bet, you always have to pay it off. Let's look at some of these looks. Who do we got up first? Natalie. Oh, God, she's so stunning. This look is so great. She looks so powerful. The pants are nice. The top kind of looks like an apron cut in half with no shirt. Like a half an apron, diagonal apron. I like the pants, though. All right, let's go to our next person. Mark is wearing like a pea coat with a nice double-breasted suit and a chain with a little Kangol looking hat. I only noticed that he's hiding the hair. My fashion goes back to like 1987, the days of Boston and the streets and the hip-hop. But Mark looked like he went all the way back to 1937. Yeah. Because it looked like an old-time movie, like one of those old gangsta movies. With a tummy gun. I like his outfit. Like, I would actually maybe, I wouldn't really wear, like, not the chain thing. But I like the coat and the hat. It is very Linda Manuel Moran. It's very, like, Mr. President. Now we have one of the fashion icons of the show, who is Kristen. Kristen looks like she owns 51% of this company. The chain is back. She always looks so powerful. That stripe on the side makes her legs look so long. It's a two-piece suit with a white stripe going down the side. She just looks amazing. Stunning. Beautiful. Powerful. Again, no note. Definitely is giving executive to me. You got the boss of Rob Stample approval. That's very hard to get on the show. It is. Two in a row. Especially if you're wearing a brooch, and you are. But she only has one, and that's a plus, right? It's a nice accessory. We have Tara Lipinski. She's wearing like a tweed two-piece with a sweater underneath. It looks kind of like a cable knit sweater. This is how people think millennial white women dress. Like, if you were like, I'm going to dress up as a millennial white woman, this is the outfit you would wear. A little bit, it feels like a modest Dallas Cowboy cheerleader. Right? It is! Yeah. It is. It is very Dallas Cowboy cheerleader coded. Yeah, you're not wrong. I don't hate it, but I don't know if it's like Trader's Castle Scotland. Now we have Rob. Whoa. Whoa. Rob Roush is wearing a, is this Argyle? No. He got this straight out of Alan's closet. Okay. He didn't bring his clothes to the castle this day. And he goes, Alan, you got something I could wear? And Alan's like, sure, Rob, here we go. He's wearing a crop top Argyle sweater with some blue jeans. I mean, he looks good. He looks like a model. He looks like he'd be in a sleeve. He's showing his signature arms and his signature snake tattoos. which should be a sign to all the faithfuls, to be honest. But he looks good. I think he looks really, really good here. There's no way he packed that. Like, that was acquired in Scotland, right? It looks good, though. He went to a store here and got that. Like, it's giving, like, 1950s golfer, and he's like, ah, forget the undershirt. Wow. I mean, he looks like fine China. Alan Cumming has the size of his hair dyed some sort of blue. He's doing, like, a nod to the trans community by wearing the hair as blue, pink, and white like the trans flag. He is wearing a brocade two-piece suit with these white elevated shoes and this big pussycat bow, a pussy bow right over his chest. It looks really... I love this look. Man, you hit the nail on the head when you said fine china because I think my grandma has those dishes in that exact pattern in her little curio cabinet. Okay, is there any part of this you'd wear? Maybe the pussy bow or the sequined suit or just the shoes. Listen, Bob. You know my buddy Bob Barker, right? Yeah, of course we don't know Bob Barker. If the price is right, I might be wearing it. For me, the top look of the week, I mean, I'm almost always going to give it to Kristen. Kristen is the fashion icon of the week. She looks amazing. She looks powerful. That is a don't fuck with me suit. You ever heard of it? There's a fuck me pump and there's a don't fuck with me suit. And she's wearing a don't fuck with me suit. And I think she looks so good. I'm going to go with Alan's grandma's dishes. There it is. I like it. Grandma, the dishes made it. Listen, before we say goodbye, let's say what's on our minds. Personally, I have some thoughts on who I think they should murder. And let's see if you all agree at home. I mean, again, I would go for Kristen. I don't think anyone thinks she's a traitor. She will never get banished. And she is too smart for her own good. I think Kristen is a very good choice as well, and I'll also put Natalie in that category because I think if Natalie stays in this game much longer, she's going to end up being a problem for the traders, and she's liable to figure it out. We both agree Johnny and Tara are safe. They're safe. They are safe and probably will be safe for the rest of the time. Yeah. I honestly almost feel bad because they're about to get used up, honey. Now that Colton's gone, who is the leader of the Faithfuls? Man, you're going to stump me. Who is the leader of the Faithfuls? My first thought was there's no one, but I think this is actually probably the craziest thing. It's Rob. Rob is low-key the leader of the Faithful. They all trust him. Oh, my gosh, you're right. That's crazy. I just had an idea. I feel like Rob is doing what you were trying to do last season. And much better at it. For real. Like, you were so good on the traitor side and the faithful side. And I feel like Rob's executing that. He's figured it out. He's got that charm. And I think a part of it is, like, honestly, charming women and the way that he's doing it is that I can try and be like, yeah, you love me. We're friends. But he's got them in a different way. You know what it is? I mean, Dorinda just said she was happy to be murdered by him. Like, what is going on? Which I would have liked that grace. I mean, the women want to be with him. The guys want to be him. Everyone looks up to him. I cannot believe that Rob Roush is the leader of the Faithfuls and the leader of the Traitors. So how was Eric's first day on the job, in your opinion? Four out of ten. Yeah, it's not great. I think what Eric is doing is he's setting himself up for Rob to use him as, like, a feeding meat, as an offering. As a piece in his game of chess. I agree. I say four out of ten, but three out of those four are just for being able to stay alive and not get, you know, murdered by Rob or banished by Rob already. I mean, he got clocked on his first day on the job. He got clocked and his reactions weren't good. But to be fair, and to cut him a little bit of slack, it is a complete mind shift. And he has to, like, mentally change from, like, I'm a faithful to now I'm a traitor. And that's probably not easy to do. Eric's basically got to just play his cards right and try to get off of people's radar. and we'll find out if that's going to work out. All right. Thank you so much for watching. Make sure to watch episode 10 of The Traders only on Peacock next Thursday. And you can find us on The Traders' official podcast dropping after every episode on Peacock and YouTube. Don't forget to listen and follow wherever you get your podcasts so you never miss an episode. And also do not forget to find and follow us on socials at TheTradersUS everywhere. Bye. Don't die. The Traders' official podcast is a Peacock original produced by USG Audio and TH Studios. The series is hosted by me, Bob the Drag Queen. And me, Boston Rob. Executive produced by Shane Redsar and Jill Johnson at TH Studios. And by Josh Block at USG Audio. Co-executive produced by Michael Wolfe. Story produced by Zoe Klar. Post-production and editing by Stephen Wong. production by TH studios production support by Josh Laulonghi at USG audio music and clip provided by studio Lambert if you'd like to watch this podcast you can find us on Peacock or YouTube new episodes of the Traders season four are available on Thursdays at 6 p.m pacific 9 p.m eastern on Peacock thanks for listening