Martin Short Got Eddie Vedder to Quit Smoking???

To be honest, there was a real thing in Seattle where ambition was kind of looked down upon. You know, I could see that. But the one at 10, I was pretty hammered. That was a surprise. Well, they sent me the script. You know, we were going to we were going to. Yeah, for a moment. I was excited for. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I couldn't believe you were even possibly going to do that with me. I was. And then next thing you know, they had me dressed up as a pirate. Oh, that's right. I didn't really agree to that. Edward Vetter, you know, Miss Eddie Vetter, I know Miss Ed. Very good friend. Singer songwriter was one of the original of the Pearl Jam Pearl Jam. Everybody, everybody knows Pearl Jam, one of the iconic bands out of Seattle and the 90s. And so we got to talk to Eddie Vetter, which is really, really interesting. He's got a documentary out about E.B., which is a skin condition, which is quite a rough ride. And he has spent 15 years along with his wife battling this disease with benefits that you and I have done to raise money for research. And they're making scientists. Got everyone on board. Everyone on deck. So on a lighter note, when I was on SNL, I remember. That I did a joke where I go, Stone Temple pilots have a new album. I like these guys the first time I saw them when they were called Pearl Jam. It was one of those. Oh, really? So as if it was a total rip off. Yeah. And then because he's like, and I feel right away to go. What I'm going to use it rain and in your bedroom and I see. So. So then Stone Temple came on about four months later and then Marcy Klein comes up and she goes, David Stone Temple wants you to come down to rehearsal. And I go, oh, and then she goes, actually, wait, don't go. The guy wants to kick the shit out of you. And I go, oh, oh, because, OK, that is too close for a home. A joke saying you're like this band. That's all the bands don't want to hear that. Although Eddie Vedder has he's got the voice. He's got a voice that's instantly with its phrase in and his tenors instantly recognized. Yes, I take him through the top rock voices of all time. And I told him, I said, I can't promise you're on it. It's whatever my list is, my list. Don't get me. That was a tense moment in the interview. And but Scott Weiland actually just to say as a caveat. That did happen. But I did run into him years later because I do like Stone Temple. Piles, most people made fun of him. Great. And so he was changed. His tune was very cool. Very cool. You know, it's hard to explain that in that particular joke, the triple name, there's an official, you know, like a Pearl Jam Stone Temple Pilots. There was probably a reason that you picked that band because you could have picked Creed or, you know, whatever. You would have picked Helen Reddy. When eyes wide open. They're great. But anyway, back to Eddie Vedder. Oh, right. We Eddie Vedder is our. What a fun. We crack up. Thoughtful and interesting interview. And we do laugh. And for those deep dive, fly on the wall, frequent fliers, we do. Yeah. Gervits because he knows Gervits. So look for that. He's Mark Gervits is a very good friend and he's our manager. And so we always do this. Well, David really started. Make fun of my. Of its. It doesn't really sound like him, but it's funny. It's a it's a frequency. It's an exaggeration. Funny the way we do it. Then the real. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's I love impressions that go to an abstraction. All right. Here's our boy. Thanks for coming on. We want to talk about. Hi, Eddie. Can you hear us? Hey, David, I can hear you great. Good. Good. You know, Eddie, I have a cool hat like that, too. We've traded hats before. Are you sure? Yeah. There it is. You still got it. Wow. It's a little it's a little sweaty. Because as you can see, because I'm a bit of a rocker and some of this sweat when I'm working. We're kind of rockers, too, in a way. I mean, not in the way you are, but you know. Oh, I would say you are. No, no, no. We're never we're. I guess that's the pinnacle in a way as a little kid of just. In a band. I mean, I was in a band with my brother. You know, I had a Hardy Boys book as a snare and a kick drum was a basket and you had a one string guitar. We all start out that way. And then at some point we go, um, maybe not my when the money's not flowing. When the money's no, I got out of that in high school. But what about what do you want to talk about? Would you like to talk about your Netflix special first? You could do it. You can run this show any way you want. Yeah. And then we'll, um. Well, you know what? I mean, the is heartbreaking is the the eb subject can be. Um, though also hopeful, uh, another heartbreaking thing that that has been on my mind, uh, was the loss of Catherine O'Hara. And I just wanted to look at chills already. Um, uh, you know, really only having met her five different times over the years, you know, and compared to the way you know her, um, you know, I even, I was just absolutely gutted and I just, I wished all the people that had never had the chance to, to be in her presence and to have a laugh. And she was, she was everything and more that you'd expect or dream of her being. She was just such an incredible energy and that loss is, is so profound. And that's why that's been on my mind. For sure. Yeah. Over here too with me and Dana. Yeah. I spent more time with her than I did, but man, you can't find anyone that doesn't love Catherine O'Hara out there. Yeah. And just an effortless, brilliant performer, always making the choice. You don't expect making her peers laugh and the whole world laugh. And her presence or just no apparent ego or whatever you call that. I mean, she knew who she was, but it's just, I don't know if it's Canadian or what there's John Candy and others. They're just sort of. Yeah. Yeah. Extra, extra. Um, and, um, so. Marty is well. Marty. Sure. Yeah. Another. Yeah. I was there. I had her, I guess it's okay to say her memorial at the Catholic church this past weekend. And it was really, really, uh, emotional and Mari gave the eulogy and he was special. Yeah. Funny and, and, and. Yeah. They always got to make some jokes and cause it's so heavy. It's so hard because she would want it that way. I mean, they, you know, comedians kind of, you know, want the, the music to carry on really. Of course we're all sad, but we have all this stuff of her brilliance to share for a long time forever. I heard her sister was in attendance, obviously, but, um, Mary Margaret. Yeah. Who's put out some great music that, um, affected me deeply. Oh, really? Yeah. She's got a great album probably even in the late 80s. I think Michael Stipe helped with it. Um, it was called Miss America. Uh, yeah, there's a, if you watch David Sanborn used to have a show. Was it David Sanborn? Yeah. Yeah. I remember that show. Late show and he'd get all these interesting musicians together and she, um, I think the song is called when you know, but if you look up her on, on that show, it's such a, such a cool performance and you can see the sisterhood there. It is. It's kind of interesting. We have this in our world too, cause I was looking up some of, you know, the, the bands of the nineties in Seattle and all that. And, and just, I was just going to say, and then it had a list of like 50 other, what they were calling grunge, which I want to ask you about the, the names of rock over the years, punk and grunge. And he was a hard rock alternative rock, you know, off track. So you must have known and know so many bands that didn't break through quote unquote. And maybe that wasn't even their goal. I mean, the goal for me was always that this would be my job and I'll see how it goes. But that was the dream. What about you? Well, oh, and before I forget, night music was the name of the David. Oh, David Sanborn night music, wherever you get your David Sanborn night music variety show. Well, you know, I kind of, my main, after I graduated from things like Jackson five and Motown when I was a kid. And then I had kind of some older brothers because I was in a group home thing that my parents helped run. So then I was turned on to a lot of Sly Family Stone and James Brown and kind of more adult Motown music and stacks and all that. And then. And then there was, you know, kind of Beatles, but then it became the who and the kings and to the jam. And so the, but the sixties British stuff and stones, et cetera. You know, that seemed like the most exciting time to be alive. You know, when I was 15, listening to and enveloped and engrossed in. All that British invasion stuff. It seemed like Tuesday nights at the marquee for the who and, you know, all those bands getting together or Hendricks showing up and blowing everybody's minds. That seemed like the coolest time to be alive and you would read about it. And I think if I, what it would have been like to, you know, I was born too late, you know, if you could have, and then in the wrong place, if you wanted to be part of what was kind of one of the most, if not the most extraordinary periods of music. And then kind of waking up one day, I remember almost to the day, waking up and looking around and all of a sudden being part of a scene, a legitimate scene that was a community and was all very supportive of each other. And so of all the bands of no, you know, Soundguard and then Alice and Chains. And then first there was Mother Love Moon, which turned into Pearl Jam, but was Green River before that. And then Green River, behalf of it, turned into Mud Honey. It's like the fastbacks and the you men and, you know, these groups that didn't quite. Different levels. Yeah. Well, and I, and I, Dana, you mentioned it, you know, maybe they, that wasn't part of either their goal or their ambition, because to be honest, there was a real thing in Seattle where ambition was kind of looked down upon. I could see that. That's what the vibe was from afar. Like we're not trying to be cool or commercial. We got something to say. It's actually hurts us the bigger we get. I mean, you guys took off. It seemed so fast. It probably was not as hard. I don't know if anyone had a bigger first album. I mean, it's like sort of like, it's like just was 91 that out because there was, I looked up in 91, some monster albums came out in one year. And I think you probably heard this, but it was like Nirvana, Pearl Jam. Um, I think it was maybe Metallica, Van Halen, Guns N' Roses, Use Your Illusion. I was like shocked by how many bangers in a row in an eight month period came out. And, uh, we tried to slurp them all over to SNL. We didn't get everybody, but one of my early shows was you got Pearl Jam Sharon Stone show. Yeah. Sharon Stone. Phil was alive. Phil Hartman. Oh, yeah. Uh, I still have a good. You had a good pocket there when you got on. Yeah. Like, do you have something with Phil? You got a fit photo? Uh, Polaroid, uh, was love it and Phil sitting at the end of the night. And, um, I came across those recently and, and it was powerful to see. And, you know, not only having been like a devotee of the show since staying up. Late when I was 12, whatever it was, um, it was, uh, just such a formidable, uh, yet completely enjoyable experience to actually, you know, uh, be in those, those hollowed halls. And I still remember making friends with a couple of the old dudes, you know, the crew guys or the guy who sits in silver chair with the Saturday Night Live kind of calligraphy on the back and, you know, going back and seeing those people, uh, over the years was always, uh, real exciting, you know, or getting to meet Don Pardo or, you know, all that stuff is. Oh, Joe. Eddie Valer. You came on twice and I saw it in my deep research, even though I know you a little bit, but, um, I think the second time you came on, you got three songs. That is so rare. Is that true? Cause I think you had maybe better man or daughter. So you had three and the first time it was alive and something else. And I thought, holy shit, look at this spoil dude. You get three they roll in with. I forgot about that. Yeah. Yeah. It's a big deal. It was to us. We were like, shit, man. I don't think they told us until after the first rehearsal show, right? So you do a first show at six or something. Yeah. We're dressed her so yeah. In between, they said, do you want to do one more? So what? Got anything else? What that means is, um, one or two of the skits or whatever. What? Yeah. Gap girls got cut for you. Thank you. So I don't, I don't think it was based on what we were offering. I think it was the lack of good sketches. Yeah. Everything bomb. Yeah. We bomb. Was it norm? Was norm doing the news? A good question because it was 91 and 93. It was probably Kevin, Neland. And then Kevin. Oh, might have been Kevin. Yeah. Might have been the end of Dennis on the first one. Cause 91, I was probably my first year. Yeah. And daddy and I are very close to the same age. Won't say any numbers out there, but yeah, you had a, you had a birthday recently and I was like, okay. I'm, I'm a half step up. I was at the house one. I'm a half step up. So when I heard the nineties sound come in and from Seattle, let's say, it did feel like something new, a little, its own little mini Renaissance. It was different. You know, there were hair bands in the eighties and stuff. There was, I don't know, it was a different sound, which I appreciated a lot. I just love Mark Rock. I love whatever you guys were doing. I mean, but I was poison on a business poison. Well, what I really want to pick on those bands, but you know what, it was sort of a shift. It was, it was a shift. It was very cool. Close your eyes. Focus. Listen to work getting done with Monday.com. Relax as AI does the manual work while your teams are aligned on a single source of truth. Feel the sensation of an AI work platform. So flexible and intuitive. It feels like it was built just for you. Notice you're limitless. Now open your eyes. Go to Monday.com. Start for free and finally breathe. The stars and the faces at the very center of today's big cultural moments. With everyone from comedians Josh Johnson, Dan Soder, Leanne Morgan, to newsmakers Don Lemon, Joy Reid, Aaron Parnas and so many more. So join me for new episodes every week because nothing is off limits. Great conversations. They're always on par. Follow and listen to On Par with Marej Povic wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everyone. It's Stavros Halikis and I'm here to tell you about my podcast, Stavi's World. Each week we're joined by great guests like Josh Safty, Eric Andre, Caleb Herron and more. It's sort of an interview show, but really we're just messing around, making each other laugh and hopefully making you laugh while you're washing the dishes or grocery shopping or out on a long drive. Plus I take listener calls where we have honest conversations about dating life and everything in between. Imagine if your therapist was a vulgar degenerate whose office was in a Greek diner. No scripts, no polish and absolutely no holding back. Listen to Stavi's World wherever you get your podcasts. There's only two quick things I wanted to ask you very quickly, just about because I heard about the who and Neil Young. You maybe like them, but I thought of Roger Daltrey and you and I did connect the dots between there's some symmetry there with the big voice and also can go really soft. So who's next? The A side is maybe as good as anything that's ever been recorded in my mind. And then Neil Young was maybe the father of Grunge with Russ Never Sleeps or Hey Hey My My Electric. You know, so I heard you love those two things, so I just wanted to co-sign that. Well, yeah, I think Neil has been given the moniker of Godfather of Grunge, not just because of the flannel, but because of the sound. And his sound up close, you know, one of the very fortunate things having worked with him and playing live is the sound of his amp up close. It's like standing next to an erupting volcano. I have for sure. Or the biggest wave at Waimea Bay crashing under the shore. And then he seems to kind of lose himself in this way where he kind of starts shape shifting and kind of turns into like a shaman. And then he seems like he's an old Indian and then he turns into like a young kid. And you're like in the cage with the lion. It's, it's, it will vibrate your soul, your cells. It's unique because he looks like he's almost struggling or sort of spastic in a way when he gets into that trance. And then when I listened to his solo on Cortez the Killer, which I got to hang out them a few times and told them what it meant to me, how that song first of all is like, and then his solo in that. And no one plays like Neil. There's others equally brilliant, but he has his own lane. It's his magic, you know, magic. Yeah, he, he channels, you know, really channels. And, and in order to do that, you have to be in tune to, you know, the energy, the, the, you know, whatever's out there. And that's a, that's a skill in itself, you know, beyond, you know, the notes seem to come not from a scale. They seem to come from a divine place. To stay a child or be in touch with that when you're a higher consciousness hadn't kicked in and you're just being playful, like a four year old drawing. And yet you're a human adult. And then when you get in touch with that, that part of you was a lot of creative explosion, but Neil always felt like he, he was there somehow. It's like a child up there in a way in the purest form. Well, the way you just explained it, I think of some of the stuff we watch you guys do, you know, there's still that playful and improvisational, you know, that's, you could say it's from doing a lot of reps, but it's also, I think it comes from, you know, being, still having maintained that freedom and flexibility of, you know, because then that's what becomes, you know, so funny and, and so spot on or, or so quick. Now you can, I think like music and stand up, as you know, it's probably similar in the way that I could do a show and in three nights, same theater, and then they're all just a hair different and no one really noticed, but I can tell this crowd is a little like this. I was more like this. I kind of adapted to that. And it's funny how they can be a little different every night. And maybe it's not as noticeable to people, but maybe it is. But I think that's music is it's still the same set. I'm still doing what I'm doing. Like you're going to do the same set list, let's say, but you can tell some nights are a little different and you're just, you're rolling with something a little harder. You're getting into something a little different that you have before. And that's kind of the fun of it. And it's not just a rubber stamping. It's, it's, it can be, it can go almost anywhere. And do you get nervous before you play? Yeah, I still do. Dana doesn't get as nervous, but well, when you're dancing for your donuts, like you're auditioning for Lord Michael's and and you're 30 years old, that's a different kind of nervousness. But now I do feel responsibility for to, I, as comedians, we're supposed to kill, quote unquote, we're supposed to destroy. We're supposed to levitate the room. Slay. Slay. And I think that, yeah, I don't know if you have this, but if it nights a little bit off, the voice in the back of your head is, is still giving yourself notes a little bit while you're singing while they're playing, you're doing pretty good. You're doing pretty good. That's not going well. When that goes dead quiet, then you're in the zone and nothing matters except expressing the rhythm of the words that you want to do in that moment, or if it's nonverbal, which is even better. And yeah, you want to get to that playful state and you don't always get to it. That's why when it happens, have you had a moment like that in the studio or live recording where you just went to another place and then you're listening to yourself back and you go, man, I was, they call it being in the zone, you know, just, it's fun. Yeah. There was a vocal on the last, or not the last record, it was a solo record called Earthling, but um, Yes. 2022, Andrew Wyatt, Ringo, Elton John and Stevie Wonder. Andrew Wyatt, yeah. Andrew Wyatt, he records every album. Chad Smith and, um, but it was funny, I found out later there was one of the vocals, it was put together of two vocals and one was at about five in the afternoon or evening. And then the other one was at 10 once we got it put together. You can't tell the difference, but the one at 10 I was pretty hammered. Yeah, we get that. And, um, it was kind of amazing to, and I was in a different form of being in the zone, you know, I was just feeling it and, and by that time, the words and the phrasing had come together. Um, but I was just, so I remember that or I remember not remembering that. Yeah. And then hearing it back, I thought, wow, that's, that's pretty cool. And didn't realize that the vocal that they had been five hours apart, but they actually sounded, Did you tell the difference and listening to it? No, I couldn't. I, I was surprised to hear that it was the two. You did a second. You know, listen to your speaking voice. It's kind of, uh, your singing voice. I, I wonder when the first time you had, holy shit, I can sing because it is a voice. You're one of the voices. Yeah. You know, it must have happened yet. That's not also good. We also, everything is still blossoming. Sure. This is, this is very nice to hear. I'll take that. I have some more. Oh, you're, you're a voice. I mean, you could just go on at Google and coot with your name. Who are the, I was, I was guessing top rock voices. And I scribbled some down, but I don't know if you'll agree, but I was like, mine are right. So you guys can agree or not. Well, I was, Betty's on the list. I mean, I don't know. We'll see. Starting tiny Tim. We're going back. And then I got a shot. If you start with tiny Tim, I think I might, I need Tim got a chance on the podcast. That is the first. I need Tim was the very carrot top of his. Yeah. No, I, I, you know what? I know the ones that get mentioned a lot. I mean, Axel's got a very unique voice. Robert plan, of course, the basics, but bond Scott, would you give it up for bond Scott? Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Seconding Dana. I love bond Scott. And it was so hard to replace. ACDC still crushed it after, but God dang. Bond Scott was so interesting. There's Bowie, Steve Perry, curveball, but Steve Perry. What journey was the notes that that guy hit? Yeah. Right. Pretty impressive. Eddie, you agree. Even, I'm not saying even Sting has a very unique voice. Oh, yeah. Yeah. No, Sting's voice is Sting's voice can cut through the clouds. And, you know, he does some early stuff. Sometimes friends will come over and I'll play him stuff. They have never heard. He worked with this German guy called Eberhard Schoner. And he just does some insane stuff with his. At one point, he basically sings the phone book, meaning an article in a San Francisco paper or something. Yeah. And what he does with it is so extraordinary. What are you looking at? Not to mention incredible bass player. Yeah. Because he's always in the pocket. He's not outside of it. He's not. He's just, he's simple for himself. He says that. But when I listen to Synchronicity and the police, and I hear Stuart Copeland and I'm going, they're doing reggae, rock, jazz. Yeah. Yeah. And just Copeland, you know, and of course Sting. I wear a very casual drummer that was, I think he was there then. Very, I think I was a little starstruck because I was like, oh, shit, is that Stuart Copeland? I never see. Was it Ringo and Stuart Copeland there? You told me and I was so jealous at one of the EV events. Actually, that was my birthday last year. Were they your birthday gift? I'm going to hang out with Ringo. It was quite peppered with musicians that were. Okay. Lots of head turners. But by the way, back to EV events, I think, you know, a lot of great people play these events for EV, which you work tirelessly with. And it's such a great event. And it's such an important, you know, thing to help. And we meet the kids and they always, the performances are great. The kids are always so friendly and sweet. They're having the toughest time out there, which we can talk about. But some of those nights, I even think, I think I did it once. I think Dana might have done it. Zach Alfonakis, always good. There's always like comedy and music. I think Chris Cornell may be one night in the old days. So we are very blessed with those parties, but they're very, very actually important events, which ties into this documentary about EV that Dana and I are watching. It's very, very strong stuff. And it's very pulls at the heartstrings. I will say that. Well, we're really feeling fortunate that it was that it's now out there on Netflix. I think you mentioned Netflix. A matter of time. That's all you have to matter of time. Matter of time. Matter of time. Yeah, it will serve as a education on, you know, anybody who asks, has curiosity, anybody who asks us about, you know, what is epidermalysis? Belosa, what is this EB? Yeah. Um, this can forever serve as the answer to all the questions. And you really get to know not only the kids and their families and the challenges, but you, you get to meet these, you know, incredible people working on this whole community's behalf, meaning the researchers and the genetic scientists, genetic researchers. Um, you know, they say this thing about heroes, something like, you know, heroes aren't made. It's more people face with, you know, incredible circumstances or, or facing difficult consequence. Um, and that is where these heroes are born. And this, this film is, it's, it's really full of them. Because you see how heroic and courageous these kids are. Oh my God. You see what the families go through with the siblings go through. And, and you also see that these, you know, genetic researchers going at it day after day with the funding that's provided to them through these fundraisers. It is, it's such a, I'm so glad you get to know these people on a personal level, because you see it's not just, you know, people in lab coats, you know, punching the clock. This is, this is their life's work. They're, they're dreaming about it. They're coming to work each day, thinking about the new approach. Trial and error, they feel so close. You know, it's a monogenic condition, meaning it's just one mutated gene in the DNA. They've isolated that gene. So now they're just trying to, you know, be able to fix that. And, you know, the, the hope on the horizon is not only would it, that process, when they figured out how to unlock this key, it would not only, you know, we're on the forefront, you know, we're like on the runway at this time of genetic research, EB in particular. But once that lifts off, it'll help thousands and thousands of other genetic skin disorders. Right, yeah, yeah. Because the kids, first of all, when I see them, I'd see a lot of the same ones every year at the event and, and always upbeat, always cool kids, always fun, up for having a good time. I know they don't get to do that much fun stuff. But just the, even some of the scientists and doctors are saying, when they get stuck, they go, we have these breakthroughs, and then when it's stuck, you're just really helping with the pain. It's not really helping them. You're just like, they have to take bandages off, put them back. It's just pain. And it's just so hard to be a parent and to watch that. And I can't imagine. So you're doing a good thing. And everyone over there, obviously Jill, your wife is working hard. And just to be a part of it, and we get to go just once a year and help or different little events you have, but man, I'm telling you, they deserve a break. That's for sure. Well, in this film is about, it was two years ago. We, we really wanted to get the whole community together in Seattle. It was a whole day full of symposiums. It was basically an EB summit with doctors, donors, families. And then the music was just supposed to be kind of a reason to get together around the campfire at the end of the night. And I will say it was, it was, it was difficult. So it just, the songs had more weight looking out in the crowd and seeing my friends, the doctors, seeing my friends, the families and the kids. It was, it was, it became very emotional and they filmed it and really not thinking, you know, we're just kind of trying to document it. But then the more we saw, and then this great filmmaker, Matt Finlan, who we're working with, another great Canadian, he was able to, and I can't think of anybody else who could have done this, really, because he had been working with EB stuff and with us for probably about five years at that point. But at that point, knowing the sensibilities of the families, knowing them personally, and he was able to kind of ask them to be part of their lives and, and film some things that were uncomfortable and film some instances that would take courage to allow it to be filmed. And, and it's really a great test. It's a wake up call for people to watch it, you know, so I think it's necessary sometimes to say this is really what's going on here. Yeah, because I don't, you know, even a few of the folks that came to have come to the events over the years, the ones at Gerbet's house in California, they, they didn't really understand until the film. So that kind of reminds you that there's, there was a lot of education that was, that seems to be welcome now that people are seeing it, or we're getting so much good feedback already. Yeah, for sure. It's very interesting that it's one, one gene, you know, because I'm sort of casually know a cardiac cardiologist, PK Shaw at Cedar Sinai, and he's in their research labs. And a lot of times it's like 20 different genes, 30 different genes, but just one gene. I'm very hopeful. I'm hoping that AI for whatever monstrosity it may bring to us is also going to go, you know, make these good, yeah, forward. And I'm hoping that within five or 10 years cancer is pretty much fixed. And I pray that this one is too, you know, and many others, scleroderma, which is an autoimmune disease primarily, but it reminds me of that because David and I, I went to a few of those with Bob Sagan. And when you see a child, pretty little girl in a wheelchair, and then she has a pink bow in her hair, and you just, it's very, it's so, I mean, I had hard, both Bob Sagan and I got restless. So we were just done after that. We had to go out and do comedy, but it was just like, so the documentary, I'm sure, is just completely heart wrenching, but you can't ever bang the drum hard enough for the amount of suffering that happens ad hoc around the world. You know, these parents just, this just happened. And so I couldn't respect you more for taking this on, not for a day or a week. I think it's been 15 years of this foundation. And so kudos to you. Thank you. Well, thank it's a good team. It's a great board. We do something called venture philanthropy, which is a newer model. So if we fund research and something happens because of the research positive. And for example, you talked about pain earlier, David, you know, we've been able to come out with now three FDA approved treatments, not cures, but just treatments for the pain for the wounds. It's gene therapy, which is a newer thing. And, you know, what you said, we might be in that perfect, you know, there is a wave of technology even going back five, seven years, you know, computing power really helped, you know, map the human genome, et cetera. So, you know, it being a single single mutation, you know, we're lucky in that way, because think of all the variables with the 20, as you mentioned. Yeah. But this hopefully would be, well, it is the start to crack in these codes. Yeah, it's a hopeful time in medicine for sure. Yeah, we're in a new stuff. I'm shift. Well, those parties at Gerbets is the fundraisers are great. Everyone has a good time in spite of what's going on. But we hope the kids come and get a breather. I know there's a lot of celebrities we don't have to name them all, but there's a lot of people that really show up and help out and I think it's fun for everybody. So people watch the documentary everyone. Yeah, watch the documentary and they'll know if they want to make a donation. Is it there? Or we can also put it in our intro or talk about it now. Yeah, I'm not sure if the information, I think it's more if you look it up. It's just, it stands as a film on its own and EBRP, excuse me, EBRP is the name of the organization. And like I said, we have, we've been able to streamline the boat, you know, all the, all the things that you want in an organization, including, I will say, these angel donors that come in and just take care of all the administrative costs for every year. Which means all of these funds that are raised go direct to research. You know, we're, we have so many reasons to be proud of this and now to be able to be proud of the film. It's, it feels, you know, we're making more progress than getting setbacks. So we're in a good space. Nice. And really being here with you guys and talking about it, it means a lot to us. So on behalf of everybody, we thank you. For sure. For sure. Glad to help. Glad to work. EB Research Partnership or EB RV, if that helps you. EB Research, if you, so you remember the RV Research Partnership. I have another question before I get rid of you is, Song Song Blue. Look who's in it. Not really Eddie Vedder, but Vedder Eddie. Incredible simulation. Yeah. Did you see it yet, Eddie? That was a surprise. Well, they sent me the script. That was a surprise. Yeah, that is. Yeah. But it was really, they were really sweet people to know and a story worth telling. And, you know, you talk about going from playing drums on your mom's cookbook to, you know, this guy, he, lightning, he, he had a dream and he, he wasn't going to let it go. And it was again very, you know, what I, what I will say is that to think that years after he passed, you know, his spirit has to be out there somewhere knowing and just inflated with pride knowing that not just they made a film, but fucking huge actmen plays him. It's pretty amazing. And the, couldn't imagine. Couldn't imagine. Yeah, for sure. And Kate Hudson's amazing as, as Claire. She's, she's really amazing. Yeah, I'm in the middle of it. I didn't even know it was real. I'm in the middle of it just thinking it's, I like Neil Diamond. I sang one of his songs in one of my movies. I went and saw him in concert and I was like, Oh, this sounds like it's up my alley, just on the peripheral, you know, and then here comes Eddie Vedder calling him. But I didn't know that was real either. So I, I found out later it was real. You did call. Yeah, they, they were, I knew this other. Someone you heard about, you just heard that they were out there and it was kind of funny and they were doing like, and you're like, let's bring them out. Well, Milwaukee had this interesting little scene of, of odd acts. Another one was called the frogs, which was a two man, two brothers that would play songs like Adam and Steve, you know, drink, dress up in pink sailor suits. It was a thing, but Nirvana loved them. This friend of ours, Bob Whitaker, Mud Honey, we loved them. And I think they turned us on to lightning and thunder. And you just wanted them to, you know, another guy, Wesley Willis, out of Chicago, you know, you had an opportunity because the light was shining on you to, to share that light with some folks that you thought deserved it. And, you know, it wasn't always easy because then they might think like, oh, you know, here we go. And it's not, you know, it's hard. You, you know, you hope they can handle it. Right. So nutty. I mean, you called him, that's a big deal. Then Hugh Jackman plays him down the line, but you just never know. It's such an odd business. And they're in front of a big crowd for you guys. And you, did he call you to, did he ask you to sing with him? Is that what it was? And that was real? Backstage. Yeah, I think he asked. And that's how it's depicted something like that. And then you go out there and sing with him, which is what a blast. Yeah, yeah, they were, they were very sweet. And it was a big crowd for him. And, and that was, that was nice. Their, their, their, their cup was filled for a little bit there. And then that, that movie is filled with, you know, there's some combustion, you know, accidents happen in their lives and, and they have to deal with that. And it's a real story. Yeah. Very interesting. Dana, you don't know. We were going to, we were going to, yeah, for a moment, I was excited for, as I know, I couldn't believe you were even possibly going to do that with me. I was, Eddie Vedder, I want to sing Chopin Broccoli. And I was trying to think of how to do it, you know, because it's at, you know, that what it wasn't, it wasn't within a sketch. I used to do it in my stand up act, just solo with a little piano, if there was one available. But yeah, I guess you were there. Maybe I was going to start and then you were going to come out and she chop and then kind of whale, she chopped with your pipes, chopped in broccoli, man. Hysterical. Yeah. We'll get to it. Maybe one day. Yeah. Early. Yeah. You know, but yeah, that would have been a blast. Well, I can't sing. I mean, I'm a comedian. I can fake sing. You know, no, you could sing. I think you can sing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Now, I can sing a little like Neil because just because for whatever reason, but a lot of people can, but, but I can't. When you see a real singer, you know, it's like a real drummer. I faked it a lot of things, but you see a real talent in music. Kind of like, okay, that was not my calling, but thank you. But we would have rocked it and I would have blown you away. But my point is this, Eddie, she chopped. She chopped. Well, the thing is, I agreed to work with you. And then next thing you know, they had me dressed up as a pirate. Oh, that's right. Oh, that's right. I didn't really know. Were you in the Broadway show on the Friday night show? Was it a Radio City Music Hall or where was it? I went to that. Yeah. Yeah, it was really easy. You were in the pirate sketch. Yeah. Well, they had a few, a few band Lady Gaga and etc. Yeah, there was a bunch of people in there. I remember that. Yeah. Lady Gaga. I was at that show. It was a fucking great. That one they should have aired. I guess they probably couldn't because all the music, but it was cool as shit. That was good. And we were going to do Tom Petty at one of the shows. Oh, maybe one of the Bill Ma's shows. Yeah. No, at your birthday, I was, I said, or Bill Ma ruined it because he said, Hey, are you going to stick around? I said, Yeah, I think we're all going to sing. And then, and then he said, and he goes, no, Eddie's not going to sing. He said, you shouldn't stick around because he's not going to think we're wrapping up because so the cake came up. And then he goes, everyone's taking off. Why is he sabotaging me? We were going to sing Tom Petty. And so I left and then honestly, an hour later, Adam called and said, Hey, where are you? You're up. And I go, I thought everyone left. And then who got to steal my Tom Petty song with you? Was it Adam? You know, I think because you weren't there, we just didn't do it. Oh, good. You know what? It's not the same. Yeah. Adam can sing though. Adam's good. Eddie can play guitar. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was trying some guitar. Yeah. He wanted his life is all green lights. My God. And he can write. Yeah, right. I know. No, you can really play. Yeah, that's a fun thing. We all, I think we all, I think we're in Seattle doing a gig was Norm there when you came out to see Sandler's tour and see how do you remember that? I think Norm was there. There's been a couple, but Norm, yeah, Eddie came out and did some who song. And then we're like, okay, here's a real singer. Here we go. Oh, I forgot about that. We can't explain anything. Oh, yeah. Hard to cut. I think so. That's where I snake that hat. I think it is. Where is it? We could be twinning right now. It's so similar to that. It's exact same. Mine doesn't have the writing out. Yeah, yours looks a little newer. You gave me the cheap one. But anyway, Dana, you'll have to come out with me and Eddie one day. It's complicated. I'd like to be a fly on the wall. Woo. Just listen to music. I'd love to listen to the Beatles with Dana. Are you kidding? That would be a dream. I'm so, I'm not alone in this, but I'm equally as possessed as Conan O'Brien or JJ Abrams or my brothers. But I just, I just think that what happened in that Renaissance decade, and I love their early stuff because they, people say, well, later on they got better. I go, no, no, no, for, they were the best two minute pop band in history. Then those guys extrapolated into Strawberry Fields and Penny Lane as a AA side single. So I can't ever wrap my mind around, don't even get me started on the Beatles. But crazy. I just, you know, I'm from that. Did you, just by random chance, did you hear the, Ringo is nice enough to come play? We were talking about that solo record a minute ago. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Earthlings and Ringo came, we were thinking, well, this really needs like a Ringo type thing. And then Andrew Watt, next thing you know, had him on the phone. We were going over to his house to have him play it. And it was, it was, it was so crazy because it literally right before our eyes. And he's such a young presence and energy anyway. But he, he looked like he was 25 years old, you know, Oh, certain style and you go, Oh my God, I'm unmistakable. Yeah. He's got that shoulder roll and he didn't always go for the splash. He loves the toms and he gets in the pocket and this, I don't even know if this is true, but you maybe you'd tell me. So Andrew Wyatt was at the S and O party and Jimmy Fallon's there, name drops, you know, and they're going, we're big Beatles fans. We're talking about Abby Road, you know, and they're like, Oh yeah, we're big Beatles fans. Abby Road. And I go, have you heard revolver? And I think both of them said, yeah, I'm not really familiar, you know, and Andrew too. I go, you guys haven't heard revolver and you're Beatles fans. But anyway, that, that blew my mind. But I don't have a favorite. I think every album is just something magical. You know, my uncle had a, a Memorex tape, you know, those strange little cassettes that was like an L and it said, it just said, revolver white album. And that was one of my like first forays into the heavy stuff. Oh, just to hear it over and over, over and over. And I thought it was all one album, all the, you know, white album and revolver. That's, that's a, that's a heavy listen. Yeah, obviously tomorrow never knows. But Texas 80 happiness is a warm gun. These are kind of these Lenny. Just what do you ever call them? Bungalow bill. Bungalow bill. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It never, right? Stereprudence. Eleanor Riv. Incredible. And your bird can sing two minutes of brilliance, you know, in harmony. Julia. I think Julia is in there. Yeah, that's another Lenny. It's, you know, All right, let's let Eddie go. He seems like a nice guy. Do you have any last words for us? Yeah, anything you want to tell us, Eddie? Before you. Some up here he comes. Oh, shoot. Well, you know, I will. Because we, I think about Marty and Barton Short. Yeah. And, and I know it's, I heard he was magnificent at the service and but I was going to share with you this, this funny thing that happened during COVID. But this is how quick we were talking about how quick people are and but so present company me excluded. But then Marty, Marty calls up about four months into COVID just out of the blue and he says, well, hello, Eddie. I was just checking in. See how my young friend is doing. And he said, how are you a young man? And I said, you know, I'm actually a little frustrated with myself because what did happen when COVID hit and I smoke and drink and, and I thought, oh, Jesus Christ, you know, this is it's a long thing. It's a respiratory thing. Like I got to drop this quick. Like I'm going to die from this some crazy fucking. So totally quit feeling pretty good. And then about four or five months in something started happening and I stressed out. Now I'm having a couple of smokes and now I'm having. So Marty said, I said, well, I'm, I'm frustrated with myself. I'm smoking again. You know, I'd quit because of COVID. He said, oh, what are you, are you smoking? Are you talking pot or cigarettes? I said, I said cigarettes. He said, oh, are you still waiting for more literature on that? And that, and that was the last time I ever had a cigarette. Really? Oh, yeah. Just like that. Oh, I want to create. Maybe not really, but it makes for, it makes for a better story. You should never talk to him again because he ended on such a hit. That's a great one. Oh, no, he's full. He's full. We love him. One talk show appearance. He's got about 30 of those. He's, he was on my idol list, him and Steve Martin in the 70s. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Still. So and all. They're still out there doing shows. I know between the two of them, you're like Gerbets. I got to put them out there. I got to mark their little old. I don't care. Hundred dates a year. I can love Eddie Feta. Eddie Feta. This guy. By his money, I'd throw mine away. Some good Mark Gerbets right there. We went snorkeling. He's my friend. Who's better than you? Who's better than you? Yeah. So he sat with me on a canoe. This is the thanks he gets. This is the thanks he gets for hosting all these backyard parties. He gets, I know he and having all comedians and we all just make fun of him. He loves this. He wants us to make fun of him. Yeah. All right. Eddie, thanks buddy. Thank you. It's been a pleasure, an absolute honor and hopefully run into. Hey guys, if you're loving this podcast, which you are, be sure to click follow on your favorite podcast app. Give us a review, five star rating, and maybe you can share an episode that you've loved with a friend. If you're watching this episode on YouTube, please subscribe. We're on video now. 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