Does The Truth Even Matter Anymore? (Ep. 2480)
84 min
•Mar 25, 20262 months agoSummary
Dan Bongino examines how charismatic messengers spread disinformation within conservative movements using coordinated social media campaigns and demoralization tactics. The episode analyzes specific examples of figures attacking Trump administration officials while claiming hidden knowledge, drawing parallels to Soviet propaganda techniques described by KGB defector Yuri Bezmenov.
Insights
- Coordinated disinformation campaigns use synchronized social media amplification (accounts retweeting within seconds) to create false impressions of organic grassroots movements, affecting political perception and voter behavior
- Charismatic leaders can maintain influence over audiences despite factual refutation by creating isolated information ecosystems where followers reject contradictory evidence, requiring transformative events to break the spell
- Liberal governance failures in crime, immigration, and fiscal policy stem from refusing to acknowledge trade-offs, instead presenting collectivist solutions as cost-free while blaming systemic problems rather than policy choices
- Election integrity and voter confidence depend on transparent processes and merit-based governance; when voters understand actual policy trade-offs and see results, support consolidates regardless of media distortion
- The Trump administration's strategic use of ICE at airports simultaneously solves operational problems while rehabilitating public perception of law enforcement through visible humanitarian actions
Trends
Coordinated inauthentic behavior on social media platforms enabling rapid narrative manipulation with minimal detectionFragmentation of conservative movement into competing factions with gatekeeping narratives claiming exclusive access to truthDemoralization as deliberate information warfare tactic targeting political movements to reduce voter participation and confidenceCross-ideological coordination between anti-Trump figures from left and right using identical talking points and messagingDecline of legacy media credibility driving voters to independent sources, increasing susceptibility to both authentic and false informationElection integrity becoming central political battleground with focus on voter eligibility, ballot access, and procedural transparencyCharismatic personality-driven politics replacing policy-based governance as primary organizing principle for political movementsLaw enforcement agencies becoming targets of coordinated delegitimization campaigns affecting recruitment and operational effectivenessForeign policy debate shifting from ideological frameworks to transactional relationship management and strategic trade-offsDemocratic party internal fracturing over candidate selection processes and demographic representation in primary elections
Topics
Coordinated Social Media Disinformation CampaignsConservative Movement Infighting and GatekeepingSoviet Propaganda Techniques and Demoralization ExercisesElection Integrity and Voter Eligibility VerificationLaw Enforcement Legitimacy and Public PerceptionTrump Administration Foreign Policy and Iran NegotiationsLiberal Governance Failures in Crime and ImmigrationCharismatic Leadership and Cult-Like BehaviorMedia Distortion and Legacy Media CredibilityPolitical Trade-offs and Policy TransparencyButler Pennsylvania Assassination Attempt Conspiracy TheoriesCharlie Kirk Murder Investigation and MisinformationDemocratic Primary Process and Candidate SelectionICE Operations and Border EnforcementInformation Ecosystem Fragmentation
Companies
The Daily Wire
Jeremy Boring's media company; featured interview with Dennis Prager discussing charismatic messaging and truth in co...
Turning Point USA
Charlie Kirk's organization; subject of coordinated disinformation campaigns and conspiracy theories discussed throug...
America's Future
General Mike Flynn's nonprofit organization; identified as anchor of digital infrastructure for coordinated social me...
CNN
Legacy media outlet; criticized for platforming conspiracy theories and serving as delivery system for disinformation...
Fox News
News organization; mentioned regarding coverage of Iran peace negotiations and Trump administration policies
People
Dan Bongino
Primary host analyzing disinformation campaigns and conservative movement fractures with data-driven evidence
Dennis Prager
Interviewed by Jeremy Boring; expressed concern about charismatic non-truth-tellers influencing conservative movements
Jeremy Boring
Conducted interview with Dennis Prager about charismatic messaging and ideological capture within conservative movement
Candace Owens
Identified as part of coordinated disinformation network attacking Trump administration officials and spreading consp...
General Mike Flynn
Identified as anchor of digital infrastructure for coordinated social media campaigns targeting Republican fracture p...
General Stanley McChrystal
Advisor to Defeat the Disinfo PAC; attacking Trump administration officials while claiming expertise in defeating dis...
Cash Patel
Target of coordinated disinformation campaigns; subject of false allegations regarding foreign influence and military...
Alexis Wilkins
Provided data analysis of coordinated social media campaigns showing synchronized amplification and inauthentic engag...
Joe Kent
Resigned from administration; letter accused Trump of being influenced by Israel without providing supporting evidence
Vince Coglianese
Guest commentator discussing Joe Kent resignation, foreign policy trade-offs, and election integrity issues
Jesse Ventura
Promoted conspiracy theory on Piers Morgan show claiming Butler assassination attempt was hoax despite eyewitness tes...
Yuri Bezmenov
Soviet propaganda expert whose demoralization framework used to explain modern disinformation tactics and ideological...
Max Blumenthal
Anti-Trump leftist identified as coordinating with conservative figures to spread disinformation and attack Trump off...
Alex Jones
Platforming conspiracy theories about Trump's military knowledge and intelligence; part of disinformation delivery sy...
Brandon Johnson
Represents failed liberal governance; advocates against incarceration despite crime statistics contradicting his appr...
J.B. Pritzker
Blamed Trump for immigration failures while implementing policies that enabled illegal alien crimes in Chicago
Gavin Newsom
Criticized for comparing himself to American Psycho character; represents failed progressive governance in California
Andrew Colvet
Provided firsthand account of Charlie Kirk's actual concerns about threats and refuted conspiracy theories about his ...
Christopher O'Leary
Testified before Congress claiming FBI neutrality while ignoring documented political weaponization during previous a...
Ted Cruz
Provided congressional testimony detailing specific instances of FBI political weaponization and abuse of power
Quotes
"The civilization now reaches such areas where previously not even Comrade Andropov and all his experts would even dream of such a tremendous success. Most of it is done by Americans, to Americans, thanks to lack of moral standards."
Yuri Bezmenov•Mid-episode
"A person who was demoralized is unable to assess true information. The facts tell nothing to him. Even if I shower him with information, with authentic proof, with documents, with pictures, even if I take him by force to the Soviet Union and show him concentration camp, he will refuse to believe it until he is going to receive a kick in his fat bottom."
Yuri Bezmenov•Mid-episode
"The enemy of reason is chaos. The ally of reason is order rules, rules based system on logic. When you sow the polluted field of information with bullshit, eventually everybody's confused and no one can communicate."
Dan Bongino•Early-mid episode
"I'm not telling you any of this is illegal. I'm telling you what Bezmenov told you. There's an op being conducted on you to demoralize you about the MAGA movement because people want to take this movement from you."
Dan Bongino•Mid-episode
"We're winning. How do I know we're winning? Our side is on the side of truth. I can prove it to you. You're not debating those people, you're debating the third person listening to your debate online."
Dan Bongino•Late episode
Full Transcript
All America all the time sit down buckle up and get ready for the Dan Bonjino show. So I'll answer the question right at the beginning of the show. Yes. Yes. The truth of course the truth matters. Even if it only matters for history. I'm going to be on the right side of it and so are you. I'm going to lay out for you today just a little sliver of what we have coming up over the course of the spring and summer. The shows we have coming up are going to put together the pieces to you to how pieces for you, how you've been misled, how sections of this so-called movement have been carved off and isolated out or now working against us. We're going to start because they want this. Of course we're going to start showing you who they really are. So the beginning of the show I'm going to lay it out for you and of course we'll bring actual data points. We're not just going to talk about data points. We'll actually bring data and you'll see how the greater network is working right now to kick you right in the nuts. It's going to be pretty hard to refute because we have actual data points. Yes. The truth does matter. This one's going to rock your boat a little bit. So get ready. Today's show brought to you by All Family Pharmacy. All Family Pharmacy lets you plan ahead with medication shipped right to your door so you don't have to wait for them. Visit allfamilyfarmacy.com slash Bongino. Learn more. Pick up medications you need today. Don't wait. Use code BONGINO10 to save 10% on your next order. And provided thanks all family pharmacy. And today's show also brought to you by American Financing. You have looked at your credit card statement. I have. You work in 40, 50 hours a week just to buy groceries and gas. Things you used to be able to afford just ordinarily and the credit card companies are charging you over 20% interest for the privilege. Think about that. Over 20%. 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So we're going to defend this place. I want to show you this first. So this happened. You know, Jeremy Boring from the Daily Wire. He's got a new show out there. I've met Jeremy. He's always been very nice to me. So Jeremy interviewed Dennis Prager. Now Dennis Prager has been an intellectual scion of the conservative movement for a very long time. I wish him the best. He had a terrible accident. I wrote about it. I covered it on the show. He came close to death. So you can see his voice is a little strained in this clip. The clip's a little over a minute and 30, but it's worth your time. Folks, we are in this really, really perilous spot right now that is important that we expose so that you, the rational actors out there, can put together the pieces yourself. Where you've got very charismatic people who are gaslighting you from inside our own tent and lying to you. Now Dennis Prager has asked a pretty simple question. You know, what worries you most about these people? Isn't the truth eventually going to set us free? Well, I hope it does. But he says, I'm pessimistic for one reason. I want you to listen to this exchange. It's very important. It'll set up the whole show. Check this out. How do we evolve as a society? Because, you know, without that editorial architecture that used to exist and that had become bloated and had become corrupted and had in many ways, sown the seeds of its own destruction. Nevertheless, can a society exist with this level of radical atomization in regard to moral and even factual judgment? I do believe in the final analysis that the good argument will prevail. But it may not prevail against a charismatic, non-truth tower. That's my biggest worry. Is the charismatic where people will follow an individual because they love him or her irrespective of what he or she is saying. I mean, to be precise, you know, Candace Welle. I know Candace Welle. She was deeply involved in your life and before that in my life. And I got to tell you. That people. Are not appalled. At her. Attacks. On. Erica Kirk. And. And the T.P. USA. Is very sobering. Yeah, Dennis, it's very sobering for me to. You have a young widow. Doesn't make the death of your husband, by the way, any easier at any point in your own life. However. They were just beginning. You got a widow, Erica, you've got children who have no father now. We're going to have to watch this forever. And you've got demons pretending to be part of our movement while a trial's going on. So in chaos out there, ladies and gentlemen, if this was ever a manikin fight, if there ever was one, this is it right now. I want to show you exhibit A in this, how when you bathe in chaos. And worship the God of illusions. And you sit there in the tower of Babel, fractional, you know, making, creating basically your own language. Your own language, your own language of bullshit and false information. How no one can communicate anymore and the whole damn thing collapses. You've seen this playbook before. The enemy of reason is chaos. The ally of reason is order rules, rules based system on logic. When you sow the polluted field of information with bullshit, eventually everybody's confused and no one can communicate and you get things like this. I want you to watch this. This is Jesse Ventura, former wrestler, former governor of Minnesota. Many of you know who he is. Some of you younger folks may not. He's a big cultural figure, went into politics later. Jesse Ventura went on Piers Morgan show, which has become like, I don't know what is a cesspool for lunatics. He goes on the show and this is what happens when you bathe in chaos and you never produce actual data. You get moments like this where Jesse Ventura says publicly on Piers show, he doesn't believe the assassination attempt and murder scene in Butler, Pennsylvania with President Trump and sadly Corey Comparator. He doesn't believe it happened. This is a hot tip, a maze more. First you're going to hear Jesse Ventura and then you're going to hear Corey Comparator's daughters talk about losing their father. This is the craziness we're bathing in right now. Check this out. When he got back up, said, fight, fight, fight. Oh yeah, right, right, right. You ever hear of a blade job? A blade? Well, you think he was fake? Anyway, I don't know. Where's his scar today? Somebody died literally sitting behind him. I don't know. You know, come on, Piers. I was the one that my dad threw down as he was throwing me down. That was when he was shot. He ended up falling onto me. I was confused and I went, dad. And when I turned is whenever he fell down and that's when I started screaming and I was instantly like, I was trying to keep him from bleeding and somebody had thrown down a towel. So somebody behind us must have seen what was going on and I was just, I was holding it there and just screaming for anybody to help. His family once Comparator remembered as more than the person killed in the assassination attempt of the former president. Two others were shot during the rally for former President Trump back on July 13th. James Copenhaver and David Dutch, both of them are still recovering from their gunshot wounds. I thought it was a hoax, Jesse. I thought it was a hoax. I think Corey's family feels the same way. Being the family of the other two victims, feel the same way? You think the other victim, President Donald Trump feels the same way? Having to think every day if he had just turned his head one more degree to the right or probably even left, he would have been shot either directly in the face or in the craniums, you ever? You ever ask them if they feel that way? Folks, I know this is not the most pleasurable topic to talk about every day in the show. I get it. I understand. But I've been doing an enormous amount of reading secondary to the show on how this type of embrace and love affair with chaos amongst a group of basically cultists, how it metastasizes into larger and much more horrible things. And I've said to you from my first day back, we're not going to be any part of it here. We're going to do everything we can to make sure that this cancer is cut out. Folks, how does this happen? How does it happen where the charismatic leader, and this is the part I don't want left out of this? Because you may say, Dan, okay, it's fairly obvious that Donald Trump came within millimeters of losing his life. Mr. Comparator was murdered. There were other victims in Butler. It's fairly obvious this happened. Like only an idiot thinks it didn't. Only an idiot. You think Jesse Ventura, this guy was the governor of Minnesota. You think this guy is the only one who believes this? How the hell does such obvious bullshit start to fester? It starts to fester because people who've built up a relationship with their audience and have manipulated their audience through the years, use that charisma to feed them bullshit like Butler was a hoax. And folks, this can go on forever. This, I shouldn't say this can go on for a long time. Well, Dan, what breaks the fever? Typically what happens with these lunatics, I've told you the Morton Downey Jr. thing, is they have to keep saying more and more hysterical things before they say something so hysterical that even their hardcore believers start to question if this person's being genuine or just genuinely full of shit. Morton Downey Jr. famous TV show host back from my day. He used to do crazy stuff on the air. So, Legity was involved in some race hoax in an airport, carved some swastika in his skin or something, they had said, in some media reports. That was it. Never heard from him again. Eventually, people just give up. The break happens with them and it's over. But the break to break that fever takes a long time. The best we can do is stand for truth and keep that load star focused on the truth and not the sideshow bullshit in the latest thing. I'm going to show you this clip because it's probably one of the most important clips we've ever played in the 10 years or so we've been on the air. It's a shortened version of Yuri Besmanov who was a KGB Soviet Union defector to the United States explaining this cult-like behavior and how both an ideology and a person, when they have the right delivery system, ideology, person, delivery system, ideology, person, delivery system. Once those three things combine, it is really, really hard to break people from the bullshit spell. Once they believe in these charismatic leaders and their crazy ideas, butler didn't happen, all this other crazy stuff, it's very hard to break the fever. Here's Besmanov describing how this propaganda campaign works. Check this out. The civilization now reaches such areas where previously not even Comrade Andropov and all his experts would even dream of such a tremendous success. Most of it is done by Americans, to Americans, thanks to lack of moral standards. As I mentioned before, exposure to true information does not matter anymore. A person who was demoralized is unable to assess true information. The facts tell nothing to him. Even if I shower him with information, with authentic proof, with documents, with pictures, even if I take him by force to the Soviet Union and show him concentration camp, he will refuse to believe it until he is going to receive a kick in his fat bottom. When a military boot crashes, he will understand, but not before that. That's the tragic of the situation of demoralization. So basically America is stuck with demoralization. Unless, even if you start right now, here, this minute, you start educating a new generation of Americans, it will still take you 15 to 20 years to turn the tide of ideological perception of reality back to normalcy and patriotism. What I'm telling you is that what you're doing is killing and dooming is. The President sucks, but he's just stupid. Everybody's screwing it up for him. The purpose is a demoralization exercise. Despite the facts, this has been probably the best year of any Republican presidency we've had in maybe 50 years. It doesn't matter. The facts don't matter. This is not an exercise in fact. It's an exercise in freaking demoralization using Soviet propaganda tactics. That have been, sadly, tried and true. Bezmanov is correct. The Morton Downey Jr. moment does not happen until the Communist boot kicks you in the balls and locks the gate behind you. It doesn't happen. These people will not wake up. I don't want you to think this is going to be an easy fight, but it's a necessary one because they will wake up. But it's going to take that boot Bezmanov talked about and you don't know what that boot is. Is it some video of one of their heroes caught on camera saying, you know, some thing that's absolutely crazy? I don't know. Maybe it shows like this because I have actual data. You know, all of our opponents out there keep talking about data points, data points, all these data points and all this other stuff. And they never produce actually data. They have a point. They have a point they make, but the point's not backed up by data. So we have some actual data receipts, whatever you'd like to call them to show you that when you get a charismatic messenger with an ideological cause who then has a delivery system, whether it's social media or whatever. Ladies and gentlemen, you can get large swaths of people to act in like cult like activities and believe things that are obvious bullshit so much so they will ruin their own lives over it. I want to show you what I mean. The charismatic messengers out there now who are very charismatic. I give them credit for that and they don't mean that in a nice way, but it's true. I want you to believe that you should support them going forward. So they need the coalition of MAGA people, but they don't need Trump. So as I've been telling you, they invented this narrative you're going to see. OK, so this is the bullshit narrative they need to get out there. That's the ideology. It needs clever charismatic messengers and a delivery system. The idea that Donald Trump is a nice guy. He's just too stupid to be president and it's in a layer of people who you trusted can't be trusted anymore. So trust us. That's the narrative. Just keep it as gatekeeper through Donald Trump. There are gatekeepers keeping information from them. Come support us. We have the hidden knowledge, right? We have the knowledge. You're not telling them now that defies obvious facts. People who are working for President Trump and have worked with him like I did have been ardent MAGA people our entire lives. We've been supporters of President Trump. Pete Hegg said, Harmey Dillon, you know, me, Cash, Ratcliffe. It's just crazy. But why do people believe crazy? Oh, oh, oh, oh, dad's got some receipts. Yes, he always does, of course. I want to show you this New York Times piece about Stanley McChrystal. Stanley McChrystal decorated military man. I did that was that Rolling Stone piece didn't quite work out from there. But McChrystal, man, McChrystal had some serious influence over the military for a very long time. Stanley McChrystal is not a big fan of President Trump. And look at this. Stanley McChrystal in a recent New York Times piece to date by David French, who's another anti-Trump guy. What does McChrystal do? He starts attacking Pete Hegg's Seth. As I told you, keep that up guys for a second. As I told you, here's the gatekeeper theory again. Attack all the people around and this McChrystal thing's going to be relevant in a second. So stay tuned. I promise I'm not just pulling this out of thin air. Here's McChrystal, deep body of experience in military intelligence. I'm disappointed by the current atmosphere communicated from the top. In other words, taking a shot at Pete. I had the honor and opportunity to serve with some of the most elite forces. People did extraordinary things, but they didn't beat their chest about it. They weren't braggadocious. That's just not the way they behave. Well, maybe they should have behaved that way. We wouldn't have had like your DEI efforts and all other stuff. He goes on the danger of the verbiage now is as much of the force of an 18 year old and it's influenceable. They see and they go, wow, that's the way we ought to think. That's the way we ought to be. We are superior. Justin, I thought that was the whole idea of a military to scare others into believing you're superior. I don't know Stanley John. He goes on, of course, this is an attack on Pete. Then he talks about how all this, you know, all people should look like me would be a disaster. He gets into like DEI stuff. So this is Stanley McChrystal, high level military official for years, deep body of experience in military intelligence. He's attacking again the people around Donald Trump. The whole idea of Pete. Look at it. Braggadocious. Pounding is just meanwhile, recruiting's at an all time high. We've had relatively successful military operations now just under a year in both Venezuela and Iran by any metric and McChrystal's complaining. And he's talking about the DEI stuff. Now, why does McChrystal matter? There's this pack out there. Political Action Committee for those on the left. In other words, they do like political action. That's why they're called a pack. And they focus on defeating disinformation, which by the way is typically, but not all the time used by the left to indicate conservative ideas. That's just their thing. So when you look at the board and who's involved with this defeat, this info pack that had a operation going against Donald Trump for a while, you notice that it says retired U.S. Army General Stanley McChrystal, former head of American military, Ops in Afghanistan, is an advisor for defeat the disinfo pack. And notice what it does. By the way, keep this up a second. It detects communications from President Trump trending on social media and finds the most effective opposing viewpoint. Wow. So weird. Hey guys, we're just asking questions, right? Can we do that? Fellows, that's the thing now, right? Asking questions. We're just asking with it. I thought there was a thing. So McChrystal is doing the gatekeeper theory. He's basically goes after Pete and the military and DEI stuff just now just pops up and is doing his thing right now. Apparently he is interested in anti-Trump defeat disinfo BS, an advisor. Well, you're seeing a lot of counter-programming about President Trump coming not just from a crystal form of military intelligence guy and leader in our military, but you're seeing it also from General Mike Flynn's group as well. Yeah, unfortunately. Well, again, we're just asking questions because that's what everybody's doing right now, right? Everybody's just asking questions. Here's some commentary by noted anti-Trump lunatic Max Boot, commentary magazine. And Max says, you know, one of the reasons I admire General McChrystal said he's the right commander to turn around the war effort in Afghanistan. He's not afraid to be unconventional and effective even in doing so. He leaves a few colleagues with noses bent out of joint and he surrounded himself with similar hard chargers including Major General Mike Flynn, his chief intelligence officer. We're just asking everybody's just asking questions now, right? Just asking questions. Justin, I heard you can do that, that that's the right thing to do. But Dan, what are you saying? I'm not saying anything. I'm just telling you what Max Boot says that McChrystal apparently is not a huge fan of Donald Trump, military intelligence guy who has some expertise in quote defeating disinformation. I guess that's his guy. It was his guy. That's just a data point. But that's actually the point with data. But what are you saying? I'm just asking questions. Everybody said we should just be asking questions, correct? I'm just your rules, okay? Oh, it gets better. Here's a Christian science monitor piece here. Flynn and McChrystal. McChrystal describes him as what? What in the piece? Spring Loaded or something? General McChrystal described, oh, once described by General Stanley McChrystal, talking about Flynn as spring loaded, radiates latent energy as he paces the stage in his brown boots. I'm just telling you what they said, man. It's just everybody's just asking questions. You notice everybody likes asking questions. It's who you start asking questions about them. And then they shift their pants. Like they need diapers. Like Ogre and Little Guy and Igor. Start asking questions. Everybody starts running. I'm going to take a quick break. But on the other side of this, I'm going to tie this all together for you. Because Alexis Wilkins put out a tweet last night. I saw it when you saw it. Alexis Wilkins is in a relationship, of course, with FBI director Cash Patel, as many of you know. I just want to put it all out there. But she put out an interesting tweet last night with actual data points and accounts showing simultaneously synchronized little tweet wars going on about misinformation campaigns and how everybody seemed to do it at the same time. Again, I'm not telling you any of this is illegal. That's not what I'm telling you. I'm telling you what Bezmanov told you. At you, there's an op being conducted on you to demoralize you about the MAGA movement because people want to take this movement from you. And once you see it, you'll never unsee it. They're all gatekeepers around Trump. And your saviors, these demoralization agents have hidden knowledge that they'll tell you for $10 if you subscribe to their podcast. But then they won't actually tell you either. They'll tell you they're going to tell you at another time. I didn't forget about it. Don't fall for it. Hey, when spring hits, I always feel that push to refresh, clean things up and reset. 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What Besmanov calls in the propaganda space, professional propaganda space, demoralization exercises, how you can get a bunch of people to believe crazy things like Butler, Pennsylvania was just a hoax. Here's the delivery system component, how this works on Twitter. Again, I want to be clear because I know I'm laughing at these people for always asking questions and never giving you answers. I'm going to give you an answer. I'm not suggesting any of this is illegal. It may be if there's some kind of illicit foreign connection and violent. I don't know. I'm just telling you like I'm not making an allegation any of this is illegal. What I'm telling you is it's an operation, an information operation to get you to believe bullshit that has infected a good portion of this movement. It's small but not irrelevant. Alexis Wilkins put this up last night. I can't read the whole thing, but I encourage you to read the entire thread. It's obviously 13 posts. But in the second one, you'll notice she produces actual data. See, unlike others who keep claiming to have hidden knowledge and data points, they never freaking produce. They never actually produce the data. They just tell you they haven't. Here's Alexis saying, hey, I was falsely labeled a massage spy in a coordinated campaign designed to basically isolate an official US government. She's talking about obviously about cash. This is his girlfriend. She was falsely labeled a massage spy insanity. I don't know what's going on with that. Is there a lawsuit about it? I don't know. I don't ask questions about it. That's her business. She notes once this tweet went out that the operation six chapters and 22 months the data shows 3.1 million retweet engagements 80% of the activity was pure amplification. 659 accounts retweeted the same post some retweeted one second apart 15 pairs retweeted within 10 seconds of each other. Folks, that's just data like that's kind of strange because you know it's correctly so when content spreads organically the timing is random. People check their feeds at different moments. Again, no one's alleging that this is illegal. We're just telling you what you think is some organic movement that's broken out on Twitter. But it was also is not organic at all. It's a demoralization exercise to make you believe you can believe nothing because everybody's lying to you and gatekeeping information from President Trump. Therefore, this isn't worth voting for and the hidden savers are going to come catch you when they expose the hidden knowledge like the MacGuffin like the Pulp Fiction suitcase someday later. They open the suitcase. No one knows what's in it, but it's hidden knowledge and it's in the movie. She goes on in her tweet thread. The network has a trail. Oh, look whose name is there again. This network of coordinated social media demoralization and lies. She notes the network has a trail Catholics for Catholics. That was the event. Ironically, Joe Kent just speak at List General Mike Flynn as current senior advisor on their own website. Flynn is the anchor of a digital infrastructure that's been repeatedly activated at every major Republican fracture point over 22 months of documented data. The same accounts appear at every chapter. The network does not rebuild between deployments. It just stays ready. Now she has a tweet up there. Put up this one more. She has a tweet up there. By the way, in that thread where they actually scroll through all these accounts you can see so you don't get confused by what you're seeing online now, you know, McChrystal Flynn these guys are good at this. She notes chapter one, May 2024, 10 days before the Butler assassination attempt. Ivan Raiklin Igor, former Green Beret, former DIA board and board member of Flynn's nonprofit America's Future Igor knows that guy. Post directly to Elon Musk and JD Vance, General Flynn would make Trump assassination proof. 166 retweets 14 tightly clustered time when those amplified within one second. Now you know how it works. See, that's a data point. That's how data points actually work. You notice when you start asking questions now all of a sudden they start to unloading their dipes. So weird. So weird. They're all complaining. All of them are whining now that they got wrecked. And now everybody knows what they're doing. Again, I'm not telling you he did anything illegal. I'm just telling you. You can believe people who went in there with pure intentions. Many of them at great cost to themselves knew they were going to become targets later. Or you can believe a group of bullshit artists, gas lighters who make stuff up, feed it into a delivery system that is totally fake and astroturfed. And then we're living the Tower of Babel. Folks, it gets worse, of course. When you want to see some more. Again, you guys want to fuck around? Let's go. Here's video of Alex Jones, another one. Alex, by the way, this guy, you want to talk about a clown, this freaking goofball. I generally avoid this guy and don't mention him much because when I was first running for office back in, I don't know, was it about 2012 or so, that election right there. I popped on this guy's show and during the breaks, I mean, he basically let you know was all a shtick. So again, you can believe this guy or not, but you know, this guy who obviously will platform any lunatic who can counter message Donald Trump at this point. Here he is. He has his guest on his show. I'm not going to tell you who the guest is for. I'm going to let you listen to this exchange first about how Donald Trump is really stupid about the military. Alex knows better, obviously. Alex, you know, he's obviously a military strategist himself, but listen to him. This is how the disinformation works from, quote, inside the tent. Check this out. Trump is under a total sigh. I don't say that like let him get away with what he's doing. That's how he is. He's smart in things he knows, but for people that know him well, he is incredibly ignorant about the military, incredibly ignorant on history. And he just doesn't know folks. And so they can just manipulate him. And now it's 79 because we're not making the sub functions. Trump's an idiot. So stupid. He doesn't know anything about the military. Guys, again, all I'm doing is asking questions, but asking questions about your own statements. So Max Blumenthal is a, you know, noted, noted anti-anti-communist. We're the anti-communist. He's an anti-anti-communist. He hates you. Now you'll see how this whole network works again, how the disinformation chaos agents all spreading the same narratives about Charlie, about Butler, all of it. All of it. You'll see how they all pat each other's back. And I'm just asking questions why they all seem to love each other. Put that tweet up by mostly peaceful Latinas. I love this account, by the way. This is an interesting one. Here's Max Blumenthal, who can't stand Donald Trump, of course, at all. Him, Alex Jones, you know, she knows it's on the account. Take note of how the Flynn's cozy up with known Marxists. Here's a tweet by Max Blumenthal taking a shot at Cash and who's giving a laughing I'm on Mike Flynn, Jr. I don't get it. I thought you guys were all pro-America hanging out with Blumenthal who can't stand Donald Trump, can't stand freedom and liberty. Who else is magnified Max Blumenthal? You see this whole network of people who all attack the people who actually did the work and elevate themselves as the holders of hidden knowledge while dumb Donald Trump was misled by all of us, me, Pete, Harmead, Cash, all of us. You see the hop? Here's a couple of tweets by Candice Owens. You would think like, gosh, I don't, oh look, attacking Cash Patel by sub-tweeting Max Blumenthal. Max Blumenthal's cashless credibility goes down in flames over Epstein and Charlie Kirk. Here we go again. And then he attacks Alexis Wilkins, Cash's girlfriend. And Candice chimes in. This is excruciatingly embarrassing. He's a teenager and love representing the federal government. It's weird how that all, they all seem to love each other and they attack the same people every time. Here's another one. By the way, from Candice, another gem. Oh, here we go. Here's the Israeli stuff again. Man, I'm going to tell you something for a thing you're not allowed to talk about. These people talk about it all the time. But Max Blumenthal, you know, it's former Israeli Defense Minister Benny Gantz declares he won't rule out American boots on the ground. Every US service member needs to see this to understand who's calling the shots. Max Blumenthal is seeing Israel is. Candice says, do not join or remain in the US military. Trump has betrayed America and expects you to die for Israel. There is no honor in being led by dishonorable men to your death. Don't join the military. Trump's an idiot. Don't join the military. Max Blumenthal, Candice, Blumenthal, Jones. Wow. It's almost like leftists like Max Blumenthal have successfully co-opted voices you believed were in your tent, infected them with the rage virus and watched that rage virus run loose in the tent as they're laughing from outside the tent the whole time. Let's throw one more out there just for the. Here's a piece by Daniel Greenfield. This is really fascinating. Talking about how leftists throw these shit bombs inside our tent and take and the rightists take the virus from the so-called in the tent people on our side, take the virus off that turd and spread it out within the tent. I want you to pay very close attention to this article by Daniel Greenfield. The headline of this, the left invented the Charlie Kirk Israel hoax to distract from the left's murder. He notes Antifa has to be laughing itself sick that it's feeding a civil war within MAGA while covering up its own crime. Greenfield's words hold this. I'm going to read this. He writes, the conspiracy nine out of 10 times the conspiracy theory is the conspiracy. Sometimes there's a 10th, but not now. What's the source for the Israel killed Charlie Kirk hoax that's distracting us from the leftists who terrorize us on college campuses for decades who harass Kirk and then finally kill them. Greenfield notes who wants us to talk about Israel beyond trans TV trans TV. Yes, people are quoting Candice Owens and Tucker Carlson, but Candice's source for this is Max Blumenthal. Max, he notes, is the terrorist supporting son of top Clinton official Sidney Blumenthal who encouraged Hillary Clinton to invade Libya to win the presidential election. He's a militant leftist. We're just asking questions. Justin, I was told it was okay to do that, right? But fear is fair, right? We're just asking questions. Maybe you can start answering some of those questions then. Why you're always counter messaging President Trump, why everything's a demoralization exercise. Why everyone's a gatekeeper and yet you're doing nothing. You think everyone's a gatekeeper. The same people used to reach out to and ask for favors. You know what I'm talking about. By the way, I'm being very nice here folks. Notice I have not taken the next step and released any personal communications. I know a lot more here. But out of respect for people's privacy, I prefer never to do that. These people are full of shit. They're full of shit. Speaking of demoralization exercises, I want to show you what we were dealing with too while we were there. It was a hearing the other day up on Capitol Hill. And to show you what this is why you think I get so upset when people don't give you both sides of an argument. This is kind of weird. When we went over there and when I entered into the FBI a few months in people were some people upset that we didn't fire enough people quick enough While ironically the left was raging that we were firing too many people too fast So like both of those stories can't be true So it's fascinating how now you've got these former guys Who just you want to talk about being gaslit? Be I mean believing in a bullshit narrative You got the a lot of these former agents who are pissed off at the at the basically transformation of the workforce We let a lot of people go a lot of people left didn't like our leadership great These former agents testifying it up on Capitol Hill. I want you to listen to this guy Christopher or Chris O'Leary. This is hilarious Here he is up there like hey man. We were like the paragon of virtue. We were never political or anything like that I'm thinking like brother. Are you living in the real world? Did you just say this out loud? I want you to show you what gaslighting looks like when it solidifies in congressional testimony Right in front of your eyeballs check this out the credibility of the FBI both in court and in the eyes of the public depends on that neutrality and FBI professionals Understand that their work must withstand scrutiny not only in the moment, but years later Alligation that the FBI has engaged in broad coordinated conspiracies to investigate individuals based on political affiliation or ideology are inconsistent with my experience and unsupported by evidence or reason Yet the absence of credibility to these claims has not deterred director cash Patel from pursuing what can only be understood as a campaign of retribution against his own personnel When agents and analysts are removed not for misconduct, but for their lawful participation in duly authorized Investigations the conclusion that such actions are politically driven is self-evident This form of retaliation against the dedicated professionals of the FBI has rotted trust and leadership damaged morale introduced uncertainty across the workforce and And just disrupted the continuity of ongoing operations Equally concerning are the national security implications with the loss and marginalization of experienced personnel Okay, this guy's just full of shit. I have zero respect for this guy. I never met him, but he's just lying to you Your FBI you paid for Got rid of a bunch of bad actors a lot of bad actors left because they didn't want to work there anymore when we were there Just hit the lowest murder rate in US history the lowest crime rates in US history counter espionage arrests were up Counterterror arrests were up interdictions were up The most wanted list has been nearly cleared out. You're the best year it ever had You see how you with this besman off like thinking though that these people can be easily gaslighted into believing They were the good guys the entire time that old weaponization crew. This is what I told you I found when I went there they were the two two of these FBI's there was these guys out and you know, whatever Tuscaloosa investigating bank robberies and stuff would nothing to do with any of his other thing when it had to be cops and in his group of just Weaponized dipshits who couldn't get their heads out of their asses who really thought they were like political bouncers And no one ever told you what side they were on This is besman off level thinking here massive demoralization exercise Folks people are policy. There are no easy fixes to this no easy fixes You we have to just keep winning that's the only solution I you know, I'd love to tell you there's some big complicated tactical plan to Changing government and keeping those changes letting the concrete dry But we have to continue to win elections or you're gonna see more of this This is Ted Cruz at the hearing the other day the same hearing laying out some of the stuff We had to let people go for and there are investigations on right now that are public It's not like another guess have you can look it up yourself. It's open source Here's Ted Cruz laying out what happened that Chris O'Leary who I've never met before and don't care to seems to have completely forgotten about You want to fix the place then you got to acknowledge Exactly like we did that this stuff got screwed up. You know run from it pretend it didn't happen Here's the list in case you missed it check this out Arctic frost is the culmination of a gross pattern of abuse by Democrats for partisan ends to elect and reelect a Democrat president in 2016 Obama's FBI began spying on the Trump campaign just a month before election day in 2020 Biden's FBI met with Senators Johnson and Grassley in an effort to throw off their investigation into the now infamous hunter-biden laptop calling the laptop disinformation a claim we now know was false The FBI went to the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee and lied to him In an effort to change the outcome of a presidential election Democrats for years have exhibited the pattern of abusing public law enforcement powers for the sake of politics Notice so O'Leary seems to forgotten that he's more upset that these people were terminated That their jobs were lost he's more upset about that and that there's investigations going on into a significant public corruption You know an entire portfolio of it. He's upset about that But not the other stuff Ted Cruz just mentioned This is what this gaslighting looks like believing bullshit being isolated from the truth because they tell the lie so confidently Folks this just broke the other day to Paul Spary again. I'm out now I get the information like you do is a tweet from Paul he wrote an article in the New York Post about this Newly this disclosed secret subpoena information Reveals director Patel's predecessor Christopher Ray signed off on special counsel Jack Smith spying on Patel's bill Bank credit card billing records in addition to his emails and texts for two years Democrat judges approved the subpoenas and ordered providers to hide what they were doing from their customer Patel And you think he cashes the bad guy like there's a reason the Democrats targeted him There's a reason they're upset about what's going on right now There's a reason they're potentially violating US law to go and claim their Negotiating with foreign officials behind President Trump. Wow, listen For as much as I dislike what's going on with general Flynn now He was the victim of a lot of this bullshit too, especially that fake Logan act crap the Logan act Oh, you can't negotiate with foreign governments on behalf of the United States. Yeah, fine. Well, what's negotiation? They hadn't successfully prosecuted anyone ever with the Logan act violations, but they charge Flynn Why do I bring that up? People are policy you elect the wrong people. They're just waiting in the winds to go screw up the government right now We can waste here's this Miles Taylor this Miles Taylor guy pretended to be a whistleblower He worked for Trump in the first term he was like a low-level guy pretending to be a high-level guy Listen, haven't been inside. There's the huge amounts of insulation between the layers of government. I'm not saying I'm just saying This guy probably didn't know anything here He is on CNN admitting something quite strange and Scott Jennings gives them a look Did you just say that on TV? Check this out tonight even told me in meetings that because Donald Trump keeps it who was objectives Who was it because Donald Trump? Well, I'll let I'll tell you when the president tells us who he's negotiating with so you don't so when When you're here, maybe you have a little jet stations with other countries tonight I talked to people from the region all the time the region or are you with the governments? Scott here's the point. Here's the point Scott gets the joke, okay? Now I'm not accused of this guy at a low-gettings. Listen, the thing's bullshit. Let's just be honest I'm just telling you like this is exactly the leftist tactics and the bullshit that they pulled Against us and when they do they're just waiting in the winds to go waiting wings to go screw this thing up again People are policy man, we cannot go back to the Obama by Nira We can't once these people get back in charge they have no Load star of truth. I told you their tower of babble chaos agents Here's an example. It's kind of weird how the doomers and black pillars are telling you you should believe Iran over the United States that Why you would believe death to America terrorists would freaking gallons of blood on their hands and face American blood over us is freaking insane But the doomers are saying the same thing as Obama Biden deep-staters Here's John Brennan out just context for this clip They're talking about Donald Trump and the White House's claim earlier in the week that there were negotiations going on with Iran Of course because that would seem reasonable the left had to attack it and say oh, there's no negotiations going on This is all a hoax. Here's Brennan talking about that notice who he believes and who he doesn't check this out They are an authoritarian regime who's known to lie, but like I'm confused. What is going on help me calm me down Well, I tend to believe it wrong more than I do that's crazy because he could not acknowledge the truth Even when it is he slapped in the face with it repeatedly Those are the same talking points as the doomer class can't believe President Trump He's really stupid It's the same exact talking points By the way, he's a Fox News story on that in fact there were negotiations ongoing like I told you Trump administration pitches 15 point Iran peace proposal as Pakistan offers to hold talks what talks I thought there were no talks. I thought we should take the the problem is everyone's dead in Iran No one knows who's talking for Iran anymore He's almost been too successful They share the same talking points folks if there were a Hester Pren like scarlet letter Marking, you know that a but e for evil It would be chaos Chaos and they love chaos chaos What happens with chaos? It's the same reason the left likes their little stormtroopers in the street and Tifa those You know some of those paid BLM mobs They love them in the street because when people see chaos and violence all they want is order They just want to wake up do a hot shower and a meal again They'll do anything to get there when it gets bad enough remember that shirt we use that is it bad enough yet? They'll do anything to make the chaos go away That's how you see the rise of charismatic messengers and phony messiahs That's how you see societal order breakdown and the banality of evil pop out That's how you see it in circumstances like that They're replicating the same thing within our tent this whole chaos atmosphere where everything no simple answers to be taken you're seeing it now You're seeing it with everything from Epstein to the pipe bomber case to Charlie Kirk to Butler. You're seeing it in front of your face chaos is their friend Here's Andrew Colvette from a turning point He's been hosting Charlie show Here is the co-host and they're talking about the disinformation Festering around Charlie. These are his best friends They would know one better than anyone Now you're starting to see how this stuff this chaos affects real people in the real world And i'm not talking about for the better check this out Some people are so obsessed with the same conspiracies that they concoct for every other thing that ever happens And so they have to shove it into this one too because they care more about their conspiracy theories than about the person who murdered my friend facing justice I am fed up with it Yeah, and you should be and this this is I mean This is a tough job for us today to be honest because this is really personal I have been open to everything. I think Candidly, I don't get enough credit for Even the fact that I shared these group chats in the first place We shared a lot of information about trans about charlie how charlie was more concerned about than any other community About the trans coming after him. You want to know the truth? That's actually the truth I heard over the course of the last two years of charlie's life probably about 50 references of how he he knew that trans Trans people was going to come after him and he was worried about that That's the truth never mentioned one time about the jews Okay, never once Those are only the people who were his best friends. You know, I know that I think I've told you the story way before charlie was tragically murdered My wife is friends with andrew and was friends with charlie Because she handled all the schedule items So andrew would reach out to her like they talked more than I did about events We've known andrew forever andrew and charlie were like this anyone who knows charlie knows that And they were both tall and looked alike sometimes down the hall charlie had bigger hair, but I sometimes my eyesight's not so great I confused the two You're gonna listen to him providing you facts and actual data points or you're going to listen to others out there Attacking charlie from the periphery Attacking his wife his kids his family You're gonna listen to him remember this daniel greenfield piece I just put it up in the show the left invented the charlie kerk israel hoax to distract from the left's murder And what does the peace talk about max bloom and thall who can this sub tweets? Who's an anti anti communist? Where the anti-communist? He's the anti-anti-communist. He's against us This is again weird, right? We're just asking questions folks. That's I heard that was okay And by the way, we are winning Here's a big big positive gold nugget for you right here showing you that this stuff matters Remember in a debate, it's hard to argue with the leftist or the doomer. They've been demoralized besmanov said it They're gonna need to kick in the boot and the door locked behind them before they wake up something You know something's gonna have to be like transformative in their head that opens their mind I don't know what that is I don't know what that is folks But we are winning our side is on the side of truth. I can prove it to you You're not debating those people you're debating the third person There's always a third person listening to your debate online in the comments Even when I used to go out in public when I was running for office There's always someone listening even if you can't get through to the doomer or the liberal You will break through to the third party when you use reason and actual data points and you don't constantly claim You have bullshit hidden knowledge that you never produce We're winning. How do I know we're winning put up that Eric Daughtry tweet because I have actual data points You can continue to tell us there's going to be a maga civil war over israel and butler and charlie No, there's not you're actually have no evidence of that at all. It's all on up Breaking the percent of republicans identifying as maga supporters. It's just surged to a historic this says all time high fellas I thought we were told was an all-time low After president trump strikes on iran you gov Wow It's a seven point bump. I thought maga was falling apart was in a civil war or something like that Folks all of it is bullshit There's no maga civil war We have to go out and we have to win elections I'm going to show you in a second here who we're up against And why this stuff matters because if you want to go back to high crime rates rampant inflation high taxes confiscatory wealth taxes Defund the police men in the women's room and open borders. That's your choice. This is a republic But don't make any mistake and you are had thinking oh, yeah, they moderated the democrats are really not that crazy anymore No, the answer is they're crazier I got Vince colonize coming up in a little bit as well, you know Vince rumble comm slash Vince He's on every day at 8 a.m. Very popular show. He's going to be coming on bi weekly on wednesdays. We enjoy his commentary We'll talk about all of this stuff. He's got a different perspective on some of it than I do But listen unlike these others. I like to put it all out there I wanted to show you this here is Chicago mayor Brandon Johnson You want to talk about an absolute zero him and governor pritzker have destroyed the state of illinois Chicago has had his you know high crime rates for eons Thankfully doing a lot of our efforts to push them to enforce the law. They've done so and had some successes over there But here is a mayor johnson on what i'll basically call reverse broken windows You know broken windows policing go get bad guys off the street Even if they do little things because they'll do bad things later This is like the reverse theory that the jails are the violence. Check this out Our way out of violence We've already tried that and we've ended up with the largest prison population in the world without solving the problems of crime and violence The addiction on jails and incarceration in this country. We have moved past that it is racist It is immoral. It is unholy and it is not the way to drive violence down So rather than just poke fun at this idiot because it's easy enough You can't jail your way out of the problem. Actually you can the evidence is there I'm just here to present to you a contrast because contrasts matter in politics. You have a or b you have donald trump Low crime you have donald trump Low homicide rate you have donald trump no border crossings. You have donald trump a pretty healthy gdp growth You know donald trump Opposing maduro killing the mullahs in iran. You have that or you have brandon johnson Hey, man, we can't jail our way out of this so we should let them out of jail So they can do the bad stuff not in the jail but back on the street again It's like reverse broken windows take all the bad people and put them back out on the street rather than catching the bad people Even doing less bad things before they do the bad thing and putting them in jail There's you have a choice. This is their party. This is what they believe you may be like, oh, that's crazy. That's just one guy no, here's the governor Of the state chicago's in pritzker, sorry, there were some liberals here Blaming the tragic killing of this young woman in chicago by an illegal who should not have been here Who's the suspect in the case right now? Here's pritzker unbelievably Blaming president trump who actually shut the border check this out real failures those failures, of course extend Beyond the borders of illinois that's their national failures a failure to have comprehensive immigration reform a failure of the president to follow his own edict to go after the worst of the worst You have a choice man. You have a choice lives about choices You know, I told you a lot of these are level 10 decisions Sometimes there's a level 10 decision where there's a shit answer and a shittier answer and if you're baton 500 You're a freaking genius. You're baton 300. You're a genius These are simple. These are level one decisions If we don't do the walk and the juggling of the chainsaws, I told you at the same time We're never going to win an election again We have to because these are the lunatics in charge matter of fact, one of them even worships lunatics We're debating if he was too stupid to figure out what this actually meant You see the tweet by gavin nuesome. Justin and I are up in the air on this gavin nuesome He could be a sociopath himself You see him with the picture with uh american psycho here. He's like look, I've been told I look like this guy the guy who's like a serial killer This is his tweet for many years people have been saying that patrick bateman and I look alike. It's pics going all over the place What do you think? I think you're a freaking crazy person This I'm like, maybe he you know, he had a no and he's just crazy. Justin's like, I don't know Maybe he's just stupid and and read the book and thought it was a story about this guy being like the heroes Like maybe I mean he says he can't read he said it over to then telling you how he reads Yeah, right Yeah, oh yeah, he should yeah, yeah, that's what he could have won like the batman thing instead same actor instead He goes with the psycho And did you see what happened in california? I'm gonna get to vince after that this you want to talk about the absolute like Best story of the day. I read this yesterday. So there's a gubernatorial race going on in california, right? They uh, they want to have this open debate and in a debate you've got to meet these certain metrics This is the democrat party by the way just to be clear nothing democratic about it So they want to have this debate. However, you got to meet these markers So apparently none of the minority candidates met the markers and the markers weren't Subjective they were like you've raised x amount of money and otherwise it wasn't an opinion like this guy's good This guy's bad So the minority candidates I guess even within the democrat party was just no good And couldn't make the debate stage put up the wall street journal, please now the democrat party is erupted because their own california's democratic crackup because their own people aren't donating to their own minority candidates in their own debate Their own candidates can't make so they canceled the whole thing All the democrats lagging in the polls are people of color. Oh my gosh, it's the democrats They're not voting for them. It's not a republican primary And like the event is racist. It's your event you picked the attendees I read this story last night. I'm like, why put this in the show? Here's dead scaven Newsom's california party All right, take quick break when you get to your good friend vince colonace's first time On the podcast since we've been back. We're gonna make this a regular thing. So make sure you check it out I've been asked this question many times. How can I protect my family without taking a life? So let me tell you about bernard by Rna you may have seen some of the latest tv commercials too. I have a couple of burners actually they just sent me another one So let me tell you I trust it. I love it burn is less than lethal launcher Fires powerful kinetic and chemical rounds that can incapacitate an attacker for up to 30 minutes This gives you time to get away and call for help. Like I said, I have a couple of them Burners new compact launcher is about the size of a smartphone. It's easy to carry. 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So be Dan and vince every week So, you know vince, I like to have all kinds of viewpoints on the show I learned from other people, you know, your thoughts right now. What's going on with the whole joe kent resignation The letter, you know the podcast circuit the seemingly hyperbolic fantastic claims that no one seems to be able to prove about how the president Was gate kept and dog walked into a war Your thoughts on on that whole scenario Well, you know, I I think like a lot of people my Starting thought on joe kent was just how much I've liked him through the years, you know He's one of these guys who was I didn't know him personally, but I had him on as a guest a bunch of times To talk about, you know, what the state of america's foreign policy was our wars How we need to be more careful with the use of american blood and treasure And few people would know that quite as well as he does specifically because he lost his wife to terrorism Overseas and he's been very concerned about that ever since and so when we saw that letter when he puts that letter out that he's leaving the administration I had kind of two big thoughts on the subject right away One was look if you don't agree with the president of the united states The the thing we do ask you to do is you can resign you can resign don't stick around and be Uh, some sort of like force for nefarious activity and undermining undermining him, right? So so get out so that's a reasonable thing to do. Um when he releases the letter and uh, and and basically suggests that it's because You know, he's doing it this at the control of the israelis or anything like that I think that that has the the effect that I was cautioning against which is you don't want to undermine the president of the united states You want to accuse him of anything especially a guy like this? I mean joe kent clearly said in that letter. It was an honor to work for donald trump. He liked working for the president And uh, he supports him and I and I have I happen to think dan that The way that joe fundamentally the way that joe handled in the letter other than like I said accusing him of in any way being influenced by outside forces Was just like hey look, I disagree with the guy. I liked working for him president trump His first reaction when he was asked about is like I like him. I think he was weak He disagreed with me on this foreign policy stuff j.d. Vance was asked about is like I like him but he's wrong he was he was right to leave the administration because Uh, he's not he's not jelling with the president. He doesn't agree. He should go and I thought all those guys handled it Relatively like adults like they're like look let's not make this into the biggest issue on the planet because we have some huge issues that we have to conquer here Yeah, you know, I get it. I just think that kind of like short sells a little bit to gravity of what's happening I mean, yeah, you can say in a letter You know, um, say you're writing a letter to some random person who lost their daughter to a homicide like years ago And you're writing a letter and you're like, hey, you know, I saw you one time in the supermarket. I found your address I'm so sorry what happened to you and it's all great up to then and at the end you go By the way, I killed your daughter Kind of like the you know, the whatever happened before that one statement doesn't really matter So I think like when you accuse the president of the United States on official letterhead Of being dog walked into a war that will cost Americans blood and treasure like you said Um, you should probably back that up with actual evidence not just assertions of I've seen some things But I can't tell you what the hidden knowledge is I I think that's kind of a kind of a big deal Right and also the public record on president trump's relationship with israel works against that theory So you remember when um when when benjamin netanyahu when the israelis decided to try and go after a hamas target in katar They strike a building and the kataris are completely outraged by this There were no hamas targets in the building civilians were killed actually and as a result president trump kind of famously Got netanyahu into the oval office and put him on the phone with the kataris There's a photo of it. It's so it's president trump sitting with the landline holding it and he's gotten the phone line is extended to netanyahu Netanyahu is apologizing to the kataris on the phone and the president made netanyahu do that So if anybody is kind of exerting power in that relationship, it's it's the president and right now even i'm seeing reports today dan The israelis are concerned about the fact that president trump is trying to navigate towards this piece And they want to make sure that their best interests are represented But fundamentally they know that donald trump's in the driver's seat So, you know the public record certainly suggests that president trump has a lot of power over this entire conversation That wasn't reflected in in joe's letter I think you're right and i think that frequently gets lost even when you look at out there in the in the Commentary, you know you and i are part of it too But there are obviously people all along the spectrum with foreign Involvements foreign entanglements if you're on one side involvement some the other you get the point Even the most pro-israel folks out there Have social media histories going after donald trump saying hey you got to be more receptive to israel's needs So all i'm getting at is you're listen it's a republic. There's a variety of opinions on this matter It's why have you on you know, even though we work together. We don't think alike in every issue. I don't want to you're not a robot You know, but I I think it's unfair to neglect that portion of the argument too that he's a transactional guy He sees a benefit in using some israeli military help to get rid of the death to america crowd and when that help is done He's done too. That's just the way he is. That's why I get so mad about this stuff because both sides have a complaint about it That's how you know, he's probably somewhere in the middle Yeah, and look I you know I As anybody who's watched me for any amount of time knows that like I my big concentration On our program is to try and cover as much as I can kind of the insanity of the left and what's happening Certainly as we are all being targeted by their outrageous and That that's happening all the time and there's a lot of fights that we have to have Obviously, there's massive amounts. You've been covering this in great depth then there's massive amounts of infighting going on on the right Or certainly a fighting amongst people who want to claim the let the mantle of the right And I I'm not in any way ignoring any of that I see all of it and and I feel like sometimes for sure that there's an intensity That is that goes beyond reason. I think as people are at war with one another What I mean by that is, you know, just pause for a moment I'm asking just people on the right broadly just pause them for a moment and take a close look at what president Trump is actually up to before you assume that he's serving Some horrible interest that's against ours. I just think it's crazy How how much people will jump to conclusions without actually consuming reality here president trump on the issue of israel Look, I like israel. I don't have a religious reason to adhere to israel I think israel's just just fine because I actually think that it's better that they protect holy land sites I think that they're a civilized force in the middle east I think that there's a million terrorists who've been trying to destroy them forever And I find something kind of admirable about the efforts to defend themselves and to constantly fight back against savagery I I think that's a perfectly reasonable and I think that's actually in many cases the very common position for most americans to have on the subject President trump is fulfilling ultimately in this battle A promise that's been made for 47 years is that american leaders would stop this terrorism And he's been making it forever from the moment he came down the golden escalator. He said iran can't have a nuclear weapon So look he is really crystal clear on what the goals here are. It's not some big regime change agenda I'll tell you what on the on the very pro israel side There's going to be people who are very angry with the way the president's been talking lately He's been saying hey, I want to leave we're gonna i'm going to be dealing with an ayatollah We're going to jointly control the Strait of Hormuz Nobody on the super pro israel side is going to want to hear the words an ayatollah still going to run it the mallas are Still going to run it the president's going i'm dealing with reality I'm looking he left the commies in charge in venezuela, but he's doing it with america Exerting immense influence over the way venezuela conducts its affairs He's trying to do the same thing one of the most difficult problems on the planet in iran right now Nobody's gonna love it. You love tom has sold and I know that He said it for years that there are no policy solutions only trade-offs You have to understand there are trade-offs in anything That's worth doing and the president is measuring those right now and I think he's fulfilling them as best he can You know that I didn't write down a lot of questions because whenever you and I talk I know it just goes in different organically in different directions and you just brought something up I was covering earlier in the show today just some of the failings of liberal governance Whether it's from chicago to the state of illinois general between johnson and pritzker and california And and that's the central failure of liberalism collectivism and all its different, you know euphemisms per You know, they call themselves progressives if they never actually progress anywhere Is the idea that anything is is free like there's some kind of a money fairy out there without said trade-offs And that's what kind of irks me about the whole thing that if they were just honest with people who are very smart and rational Human beings when you give them the facts and lay them out without the gas lighting, you know We're all rational maximizers and will generally make the right decision We will we wouldn't have progressed as far as we did above the animal kingdom if we weren't capable of it actually progressing However, they tell you these things and they never tell you the trade-off They never tell you the old broken windows theory of economics that you know the window gets broken in the bakery The glass guy comes to replace it everybody marvels and they go. Oh my gosh. Look, this is so great We're creating jobs as glass guy gets to replace the glass, but in the end what happens there's no value created It's the same damn glass the guy who would want the bakery guy who lost his window now has to pay the $500 for the glass If not more he's down 500 bucks and he has nothing more than the same damn glass If you just would have told people the trade-offs it wouldn't look like job creation Yeah, totally right and here's the good news I think that americans are paying attention at levels that we've never seen before and that's thanks in a large part to social media Independent media the ability to actually get the truth And not have the distortion filter of censorship that the legacy media media has created for years You know, there are still some people who like long for the days of like Walter Cronkite and three channels That's how you the whole world and the reality is the house It's crazy. I I just think it's so polyan ish and it and it and it misunderstands history What you had in that in those days was what we call selection bias Just a limited array of things that would get to you and it was you were tired Entirely at the mercy of the CBS newsroom about what you were entitled to learn But now nowadays if anything you want to know fundamentally you can find it and americans are finding it This is why so i'll just i'm not to introduce an entirely new topic But i'll just use the save america act as an example Have you seen the polling on this subject every american supports photo id every american supports only american citizens voting in elections Every american supports getting rid of non-citizens on the voting rolls It's the most common sense thing imaginable if you just ask them on the street level. Do you support these things? It's when political distortion get involved. It's when manipulation gets involved It's when people who are lying to you get involved that things start to get muddy Just but look when when you know the truth You're good and this is why we're fighting for election integrity dan because the left has come to a realization That if winning based on the merits is the standard the left loses If winning based on appealing to voters is the standard the left loses So what do they do they rig elections? You can't you can't appeal to voters. We got to keep voters out of this We removed donald trump from the ballot in man in colorado We remove rfk jr in the democrat primary from the ballot so that nobody come on against biden We rigged the primary elections so that all of the candidates get out of the get out of the race at the same time to prevent Bernie sanders from being ascended we rigged the primary in 2016 such that debbie wasterman shaltz needs to be chased out on the first day of the convention as some sort of Sacrifice for oh, sorry about that as we rigged it for hillary clinton. They rigged the elections by way of the media They rigged the elections by the way of social media They rigged the elections by importing illegal aliens by the millions and patting the numbers in the electoral college Don't forget cliburn. I don't know if you did you mention moving the primary to south caroline at a benefit? Joe biden to get others that remember that you know moving up the primary dates and I mean this is not none of this stuff Is new vince but your media distortion field is correct And I you know I wanted I got about a few minutes left here But I wanted the audience here to think about in terms of what's happening right now with the dhs shutdown Clearly the fault of the democrats clearly the republicans are going to vote on a package to open up the government They keep introducing it the democrats won't get on board The media if it was the inverse and the republicans were blocking and there was a democrat president Would be at the airport every day showing these long lines and constantly showing images of republicans with the republicans did it Republicans did it but now they blame it on government in general This is the process all broke and it's like the distortion field you come away with the Perception that this is a government problem, which it is but it's a democrat government governance problem It's not a republican problem And they want to prejudice your understanding of reality. That's the that's the point that you're making and and I want to give a compliment to the president. I did this on our program this morning You know it is a master stroke for him to send ice to the airports for two big reasons He sends ice to the airports and they actually have the effect of alleviating The traffic so that's already worked the cnn had cameras in Atlanta yesterday And they were shocked their mouths were a gape at the fact that the lines are actually dropping down Meaningfully the general manager of the airport just told cbs that it's the best it's been on a very long time It's hilarious part two. Here's the other great reason. I think that that ice is there. Why president is a president trump is a brilliant man public relations the media has demonized ice At unbelievable levels. In fact such dangerous levels They've been subjected to thousands of percentage increases in assaults death threats and assassination attempts We've seen multiple assassination attempts on ice officers including in texas remember that sniper trying to shoot through a Vehicle to kill ice agents killed a couple of illegals instead And now all of that happening because the media has been involved in whipping people into a frenzy about ice It could be a nazi's brown shirts, but then look what happened ice is at the airport now They're handing out water bottles. They're helping people in line. They're making there in fact some ice agents are being placeholders They're standing in line so people can go to the bathroom and then come back and take the spot back Ice is human these guys that wear the badge law enforcement Who are serving our country right now? These are humans who are doing good wholesome jobs for our country and now the american public is getting to see them up close They get to do this as they travel they're seeing these ice agents This is a coup by president trump He's taken something miserable that the left has created and turned it into something wholesome that he once again has rescued That's great analysis there vince if you want more of that you can always check him out at 8 a.m Eastern time every single morning rumble.com slash vince Part of the whole operation we have here because we love his content. Hey vince. Thanks a lot for coming on I'll see you on your radio show Next wednesday you'll be back The following week so you'll see dan and vince or hear dan and vince every wednesday from this point on really appreciated vince Thanks for your time today, dude. It's such a blast to do this with you. Thank you dan Appreciate you man. It's gonna be a lot of fun man. It's the first of many folks vince colonize. 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