Amanda Goes West: A Summer House Girl on Girl Crime Emergency Episode

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There's an all new double episode that went up this morning. I'm prepared to record two Patreon episodes that I will get to as soon as I'm done with this, although the themes of them have radically shifted in the last couple hours. Anywho, Amanda and West are fucking, I guess, breaking news. I was, I had just started a walk. I do love these daily walks that I take up or eat to Soho. And I don't even know, it's probably like a mile in on a call with a friend catching up who does not watch Bravo, and my apologies for being offline for about an hour or so, because then I got a text and another and something about a statement. So I knew, I actually did say a little prayer. I was like, oh, heavenly Andrew Cohen, oh, please God, no. Knowing something had just been announced. And I went on social and I saw an announcement and I said to myself, are you out of your fucking mind? And I could have run back to the, well, I mean, not running, but carefully walked to support my L4-5, back to the clothist record, but I honestly felt like you've ruined the day and I don't even know. God in the Bravo community on an 11, you're not going to also ruin my steps. So I continued my walk to Soho after reading this statement and honestly losing it and like several different friend chats and shout out to Michael Arsenault, I did also call him for an emergency catch up while I was at that point, I think in Greenwich Village on my way downtown. Anyway, this is the statement. If you haven't heard it at this point, I'm recording just as timestamp because God only knows what is going to happen as soon as I step away from the mic. So for the historic record, recording this Tuesday, the 31st, March, Sarah's month at 5.03 PM Eastern Standard, which I had the seconds, but alas. So Amanda and motherfucking West posted this to their Instagram stories and here we are. And also sidebar, like the fact that it's on IG stories, not that you could post this to grid because it would be sort of an act of humiliation, but so too is apparently your burgeoning relationship. We'll get to it. But there is something just so wild about all of this. And I mean, I have just a couple thoughts also. I do have a pod scheduled for tomorrow and I'm just so thankful that it's on the books because I know whatever happens between now and tomorrow, my guest and I are going to do a triple, triple deep dive. So that is on the docket coming up. But anyhow, Amanda Batula, I'm putting down my Batula hoops. I'm throwing in some studs, says, we've seen the growing online speculation. So while this is still very new, we wanted to provide some clarity. It was never our intention to purposefully hide anything. Given the complicated relationship dynamics involved and the scrutiny that comes with being on a reality show, we needed a little space to process things privately before speaking on it. We've shown up for each other as friends over the years through all the highs and lows. And what's developed recently was the last thing either of us expected. Our connection grew out of a genuine, longstanding friendship, which made it especially important for us to approach this with care, with care. As our feelings evolved, I love that they're just speaking in like first person pronouns. I love that. That's what she can get. Instead of like a friendship bracelet when this burns to the ground, she can say that, oh, once we were a we, then I'm back to being an I. We wanted to take time to understand exactly what we were feeling. We also recognize that this has had an impact beyond just us and never wanted our actions to cause any hurt or be perceived as careless. God forbid, never. We truly appreciate the understanding and respect as we navigate this. Obviously, TLDR, you're getting fucking none of that. I mean, you've, I genuinely, I mean, I do have a couple of thoughts. Number one, truly go fuck yourself. Like the headline here is enormous, enormous betrayal. And I know this is one of those circumstances. Listen, our lives were forever changed. It changed everyone's, you know, just brain chemistry when the scandal all happened. So when you think of a moment in time, some like ripped from the headlines, intra franchise, dynamic intro show, intracast dynamic intro show, a person probably just instinctively sort of understandably goes to, how can I compare this and almost equalize this to Scandival? To me, there is no comparison. First off, the Scandival was about two people in a committed romantic relationship of a decade. And the one of the partners, it's about Tom, secretly fucking Ariana's close friend, seemingly his close friend, and then all of us kind of finding out about this all at once. I personally think this is very different. And for some people, depending on how you look at it, it doesn't have to be measured alongside or against Scandival to understand how deeply fucked this is. And to me, just as a woman, as a woman, I'm not a podcaster, gum and dude, or just, you know, bravo, holic. For me, the central idea of this, the central issue I have is Amanda's betrayal of Sierra. It is not about how long Sierra and West dated. It is about the level of commitment that I assumed Amanda would have for Sierra's care. As we have seen repeatedly, Sierra put herself in the middle of a whole lot of bullshit when a lot of other people in that cast would not. And standing up for Amanda and affirming her worth and her value. So to hear a statement like this that never once is truly pussy footing around naming Sierra, and I'm honestly like, this is sort of truly the best thing that could ever happen to Kyle. If anyone in Kyle's circle was smart, and I honestly can't even direct this directly at Kyle, but really somebody else, probably a man, so he'll listen, I would think the direction would be shut the fuck up. Do not say anything. Because Amanda just truly, truly soiled a overwhelming wave of goodwill heading her way that would have increased, I assume, over the rest of the season of Summer House. Surely for in the city, who knows, wherever else, she was looking like she was going to have the kind of, not necessarily breakthrough moment that Ariana did, but just this kind of like, I am getting through this incredibly tumultuous toxic relationship and marriage. We've announced our separation, and I am moving forward and moving on up. All of that goodwill, or at least just in my humble opinion, people have every right to feel differently, has completely evaporated. And the reason for that is the level of betrayal, I'm not excusing West in this, but I'm thinking about it in terms of woman on woman crime. And the level of betrayal, because to me it really genuinely does not, and I'm not comparing it to Scandiball, does not matter how long Sierra and West were dating. We knew this was someone who was very important to her, and we also knew from another perspective how supportive and close and kind and genuinely careful Sierra has been in holding and uplifting Amanda, her feelings, her perspective. So when I see this dumb fucking statement that was genuinely written by an icicle, I really have so many issues because you're talking about like a level of decency, respect and care, but you're too fucking scared to even mention Sierra's name. And again, I'm taking Kyle out of this because I don't think that Amanda owes anything to Kyle. So there is a question of like Kyle's feelings, they're quite literally separated. The betrayal genuinely to me is entirely focused on Sierra. It might be uncomfortable for Kyle, but Kyle has more than enough discomfort that he should be sitting with anyway. So just add this to the list. The ending of this Focacta statement, we also recognize that this has had an impact beyond just us, name her in the words of a, you know, formerly interesting housewife, name him, genuinely name him and never wanted our actions to cause any hurt or be perceived as careless. When did this fucking begin? When did it begin? Because in the couple hours since this announcement went out, Dave Portnoy has taken to the mic on Twitter and also Instagram to say that his mutual friend of Wes, Brianna Chicken Fry, who's an influencer and also works at Barstool, she and Wes are friendly and like made out or something. Dave Portnoy is saying that Brianna told him at the Super Bowl that West and Amanda were hooking up. Who knows how serious that was then, but I did do some investigative journalism by Googling when is the Super Bowl and it was February 8th, 2026. So you're telling me this has been going on at least since then. We had the separation coming to us weeks before, formerly announced weeks before Summer House premiered. It seemingly happened at some point in the fall, October, November. I don't know when this began. It is going to be one of many questions posed their way, but this is genuinely like one of the wildest turns of events I have seen of recent and it is genuinely. And I mean, like word of the day, I'm gonna say the same thing eight times over. Welcome to Annie's Girls. They're being so deeply irresponsible with Sierra and I just have to wonder to myself, at what point was Sierra told that this was happening? Because over the course of the last several days, including kind of nothing legitimate before I recorded that episode with Katie that went up today that was recorded last week. After that episode was recorded, then there was a Page Six piece, Sierra and Amanda. There's tension, something, something. Then I recorded an episode with Alison Leiby where we had a little bit more information, but nothing definitive at all. Then in the last couple of days, I have heard some things from people off social, which was just kind of like private convos that like something is happening, but I was steadfast in until I hear this definitively, all of this is bullshit, because just as a woman, as a human person, I could not imagine Amanda betraying Sierra at this level, which is what it is. She had feelings for this man and the idea of doing anything romantic with him, let alone honestly anybody. When you are this early out of a very toxic marriage, when you yourself are discussing your like low self-esteem connected to it and not, and you're interested in moving forward in like a healthy, happy manner, to do something that you know is going to hurt your close friend who has at points sacrificed her own best interests to celebrate you, to protect you. The idea of turning on Sierra in that way, let alone doing away with all of the goodwill and like part, I know that's not the breaking news headline but all of the partnerships Amanda could have gone, all of that to burn it to the ground for West was like unbelievable to me. And then last night, I went to the real host was over at Island, screening and premiere. I watched the first two episodes in the morning, which I know is like a shock because I usually forget to watch screeners, but knowing I had the event at the end of the day, I wanted to like learn more about the women. And you know, TLGR is the premier's phenomenal. The second episode is gonna blow your fucking socks off and we had a great night. But the thing that a lot of us were talking about in the course of the night was Amanda West because people had heard things. Now I was told just kind of like in casual conversation that like, yes, this is in some way legitimate and I'm losing myself over champs. Just kind of like, you know, having some cute French fries and living my best life in non-monoloblonics, a pair of flats that I found, running, racing through the cloth vest because I was running extraordinarily late. And I kind of knew at that point that this was really not looking great for my chosen safe space of denial. But I didn't expect something to come out today and I didn't expect it to be as poorly written and strategized as this, although I couldn't expect anything better from two people who were making a really fucking terrible mistake, a terrible, terrible mistake. And the timing of this is so wild. That is not the comparison people are maybe interested in seeing, but in terms of a season fully airing when headline news rupturing several relationships is breaking, is comparable, because it does, an audience that's already invested, with very big stakes, just specific to like, Kyle and Amanda breaking up. There was a sense of relief that I've talked about on several episodes of at least knowing Kyle and Amanda were no longer together. So when we're watching this toxic relationship play out, at least there is some sweet relief in knowing this comes to an end. So to know that there is a different new beginning that had been happening for some extended period of time. And again, connected to that betrayal, when did Sierra find out? When did Amanda stop being Sierra's friend? When did West stop pretending that he had changed? And I think about the number of episodes recently where I have noted, I dragged him to hell, that previous reunion two seasons ago, I really ripped him to fucking shreds, but I'm seeing somebody that I believe has changed. And I'm thinking forward to the rest of the season, whatever kind of like, not meet cute, but like vulnerable conversation, we're gonna see take place between Sierra and West. The idea that I at one point was like hoping, thinking possibly that Sierra and West might be engaged in some sort of relationship dynamic or maybe had tried to date and it didn't work out to see where we are now, which is not just that this was seemingly some sort of drunken hookup terrible mistake, but an intention for these two people to betray their friend. And I hear people saying, but what if it's true love? What if it's something else? It doesn't matter to me. Both of these people made a decision to do this behind their friends back, because how could you not otherwise? 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And the thing that really, really upsets me, which is something I discussed a little bit with Allison on that recent app, is the timing of all of this in the currently airing episodes and the amount of vulnerability that Sierra has been sharing, not just about the impact of Wes's actions on her, but the amount of pressure and stress and criticism and at points just genuinely negative audience reaction that she has had to grapple with as a black woman and black Bravo lab. And to remember the amount of public affection that was sent the entirety of the cast's way in that recent conversation around the table where we were talking about the importance of that conversation of Sierra, KJ and Mia sharing their feelings and their experiences as black people and also the intersection here of like, how does this public spotlight and the additional pressure that I am under that my non-black castmates are not? How this all comes together? And Sierra breaking the fourth wall in a confessional and breaking down and saying like, I'm essentially nervous how this is going to be received because of how I felt with people saying, a white man publicly humiliated you and embarrassed you on television. And noting the kind of positive attention that Amanda and Wes received specifically, in addition to everybody else, a mere week or weeks ago, knowing in real time how little they cared to genuinely understand Sierra's perspective because it is so additionally infuriating to me that you cannot pretend you didn't understand what this woman experiences on a larger on a scale so much larger than yours. It's incomparable. So to understand that you can't play smart and stupid at the same time, she is opening herself up to you and to us, to hundreds of thousands, I don't know the viewership, if not more, surely more, you know, shout out Peacock, opening herself up to a criticism and even addressing the criticism that has been sent away and also the lack of care for her heart. Men on this show looking at her as a vessel, not as a complete human person who is professionally extremely successful, who has multiple incredible careers that rely on a person's rapid fire, wit and intelligence and drive and stamina. And she's the funniest person on that show. I mean, like Lindsay obviously is incredible. Let's not compare. She's very fucking funny. Karma Brown, are you fucking kidding me? I've watched that entrance and just like her characterizations over and over and over again. And the tits, tits for days. Tits for days, I mean, she is so funny and we have seen her share her concern because of previous relationships, because of fear of opening up. So the timing of this, with these people having sat through that conversation and are also, ironically or not, just maddeningly, getting some level of deserved positive credit from the audience for the way that they seem to show up as allies and to specifically do this. And again, it's like I can hear that like sort of devil on my shoulder, voice in my ear of, you can't help who you fall in love with. I don't look at this as love. I look at this as a careless mistake that you guys are now trying to make work. And it's great. You have affection for each other and you're trying to figure all of this out. There's no part of me that felt like if this is a true thing that is real, that they looped in Sierra at an appropriate time. And if Amanda was really a good friend to Sierra and cared about her at all in any way close to like a percentage, I mean, like I could pretend it would be close to what Sierra has done for Amanda, for what Amanda has done to Sierra, in any kind of close way, this never would have happened. They made a choice. You don't just like step and fall in a puddle of someone's cock. You know what I'm saying? Like not to be descriptive. But this was a decision that both of these people made that surely they hid from her, let alone everybody else. Now we have seen like the cast put up their own memes, KJ, Carl, like little response things that did seem to build some sort of something is happening here on Instagram. I thought there's no way that this could be true because of the way that the cast seemed on social to have a little bit of an LOL. But then in the wave of like finding out this is true, of course there was some sort of like inexplicable LOL because how else do you figure this out? The cast is as shocked surely as Sierra is. I mean, we have Lindsay posting on Instagram stories today that like their publicist, and it's a picture of Alex from Love is Blind, which is very funny. Because this is so poorly done. This is the laziest form of, let's not even pretend it's love. This is the laziest form of dating. It genuinely is. And for Amanda, who has garnered an understandable amount of audience sort of sympathy and support because of where she has found herself in her relationship that we've seen be different levels of toxic, but that is the consistent thread over the course of its decade long existence. And now as we know, dealing in the final stages of her marriage to see herself in a man, I think, or to view herself and view the value she brings to the world through like the lens of whoever she's in a relationship with. I just honestly assumed, which was a big ol' assumption making an asset of maybe just me and me, that she would want to date or something or just spend some time recovering from this terrible, can we say, terrible marriage that was ending and kind of find herself. So there is also just an asterisk here of like, you've gotta be fucking kidding me. And that's the choice that she's making. And I'm sure she will probably continue to find her own value or identity through the lens of whoever is telling he loves her next. And that's a conversation for her and her co-pay. Like that's between Amanda and Amanda. The level of curiosity that I have for Amanda and West individually and as a collective is like, below the floor levels, below the floor. Because West has proven to us before a level of carelessness that he had for Sierra's feelings, which is why over the course of like, the last couple episodes this season, it felt like maybe he really actually got it. But to me, it's like he fooled me again. Again, because the whole vibe here is such enormous betrayal. And I can understand somebody saying, oh, more empathy, blah, blah, blah, for people like making their choices. You can find that somewhere else. It's like, I'm not saying these people had a, that this is like a federal crime. Although, well, I mean, I'm not making that statement. But I am saying this is really fucking careless and bad. Yeah, it really is. And the idea of them thinking they were gonna get privacy and respect, babe, the call is calling, the call is coming from inside the house. Where was that for your friend? And now it's like the rest of the season is what? So there's, I mean, it gets to like Page Six's, get to like Page Six's official announcement. And unfortunately, there's also a photo that has been released, allegedly of Sierra taken outside an Hermes. Now, I initially was like, wait a second, cause I was just walking down, I usually walk down Madison, but, or park. Today I did park. I'm like, oh my God, had I walked down Madison at that time? But she was, this is very, you know, inside baseball. She was in fact, allegedly at the Hermes in the Meatpacking District, which is nowhere near where I was. So there is this photo of her allegedly moments after this statement went out. She has seemingly blocked Amanda and West, I believe on social, good for her. Don't go anywhere near them. I mean, Lindsay, the world needs you. Michael Arsenault sent me a photo and it was like a bat signal of like Lindsay Hubbard, you know, the people command your presence. We need you here now more than ever before. I also, and I'm going all over the place, but that's what happens with an emergency episode. I wonder how this is going to work because there was some sort of like sources announcement that Bravo's decided not to pick up cameras, which is absolutely the right move. The reunion is scheduled to film in the next couple of weeks. I think it's at the end of April, which is again, technically the month after my birthday, which is still a part scientifically, energetically a part of the birthday month. So they're not picking up cameras prior. I think that's a smart move. We don't really know what's going on with the OG current cast of Summerhouse and how this will work now that several members, Lindsay, Kyle, Amanda, and then, you know, former Summerhouse cast members and new folks, how this will work within the city which I also sort of technically want to call Summer in the City or in your city. I don't know how this is going to work. So, and that's also been a topic of recent conversation on the pod and also, God, in the middle of this like great season of Summerhouse, this is all gone to shit in the last couple of hours or at least heavily complicated. Some of our feelings about select members of the cast. So I didn't really know, and maybe the network doesn't entirely know, how this will work next season. Maybe there will be some idea of like, let's see what the response is to in your city, in the city, that makes me think of the Sonya store. In your city next. The Cab Burlesque. I don't know if there was a plan for Amanda, Kyle, and Lindsay to stay on both, but if there was an idea to put those OGs on this new show, have this season kind of be their exit package, which I don't know is the plan at all. I genuinely am just like pointing out options here. If they then transition to in the city and didn't remain on Summerhouse, that would mean, would it not, that Amanda would be on the new show spin-off. West would be on OG as would Sierra. So how the fuck would that work out? I mean, I can't imagine next season, Lord knows we've been through a lot. We have seen a lot of different dynamics, people engage no longer together, still filming. So there is a precedent here for an extremely high level of awkwardness, but I cannot imagine a house next summer, regardless of how long this relationship lasts, and that's a big regardless, I cannot imagine a house that would include Sierra, West and Amanda there full-time, genuinely no matter what happens with this terribly, terribly bad idea of a relationship. And I also think there was some like, Michigas that happened several years ago with one of the podcasters from Chicks in the office. She had broken up a long-term relationship, maybe it was a mickelball I genuinely don't remember, with someone else from her office and then fell in love and started dating a colleague. And that person hadn't been in a relationship and she had broken up with her boyfriend, and I love Chicks in the office, but I just remember a little bit of the lore. She had broken up with her significant other boyfriend before the relationship started, but there was a feeling at the company, at the office, at Barstool or whatever, of like she has betrayed her ex, who also worked for the company, by starting to date his friend. And the sort of commandment from the leadership there was, well, it's either marriage or nothing, that at least her new boyfriend, who was the least sort of, I don't wanna say successful, but like the least sort of desired of the three people, that if this relationship didn't work out, he probably wouldn't continue to have a job, because everything was so awkward between him and his former kind of work pal, who was his new girlfriend's ex-boyfriend, that things were too uncomfortable for the three of them to seemingly remain and have everybody else in the office, that at this point, this is several years ago, they were like marriage or nothing. Guess what? Jokes on everybody else, they did end up getting married. They're happily married, it all worked out. I don't wanna say it's marriage or nothing for Amanda and Wes, cause I wouldn't wish this kind of beginning on sort of anyone, this level of criticism, genuinely deserved. But I wouldn't wish that on anyone, but I also think I now see a different Amanda that I will never unsee. And Wes has, I mean, fool me once and we're past twice, so I can never look at them as the same again, because the level, again, the lack of care for Sierra, and also the additional layer noting, there's no comparison for me with Scandavold. This is centered for me, just as a viewer, as a woman, et cetera, on that friendship, the lack of care and the added incredibly crucial layer to point out of race here, and what we have already watched of Sierra's vulnerability over the last several seasons, let alone the level of friendship and care. I mean, Michael Arsenault in our little triage level, phone chit chat, and shout out Michael, who's also an AG, God bless, love you to bits, talking about noting, cause I don't, I oftentimes forget huge moments. It's very interesting how my brain works when it comes to granular things versus big storylines, was reminded me on our call of the moment when Amanda was getting her fertility checked, and Sierra went with her to publicly support her, and then it turned out some of her results got flags, and processing all of that on camera. Sierra has gone out of her way to be a friend, and to drop that over a man, that's like the first commandment of female friendship. Do not let a man come between you. Do not choose a man over your friend. Men come and go. Amanda should know that better than anybody. She's quite literally separated from her husband right now. The idea that you would lose Sierra because of your own decisions, and then play pretend that this seemingly just happened to you, and then assume, I'm sure they didn't expect it, but that they would be treated with respect. We're not gonna give you more than what you gave your pal. We're gonna give you a whole lot less, obviously we are. And the Goodwill tour, I mean, Amanda's saying, I have to do, I'm recording two Patreons after this, one of which has changed in theme. I wanna do a reading rainbow episode because I hadn't yet unpacked her Marie Claire interview, which I am 1,000% gonna get to now, which I guess gets more into her like friendship, and closeness, and affection, and respect for Sierra, and I believe also West, to watch that with like this, to read that rather with this current lens is an absolute must do, but it's just so frustrating. Again, because of what Sierra has been willing to show us, the level of trust that she had not only in herself, but in really truly breaking the fourth wall and having these incredibly important, uncomfortable conversations. As she said, like it's not fair for her to internalize her discomfort at the expense of herself. Other people should be aware of what she is experiencing, especially when they have a much more comfortable way of operating, regardless of how much criticism they have seemingly rightly received. It's just incomparable. So to know all of that and still do this, and also West, Mr. I'm not ready for a relationship. I mean, he has the right not to choose Sierra. He has the right to say, I am not in a relationship, I'm not ready for a relationship, and maybe change his mind. But man, does that come with a whole lot when you are that other person? And you realize, wow, turns out maybe he was ready. Just not with me? I mean, how else do you interpret that? Thank God that Sierra and West were not dating. Thank up to my understanding, who even fucking knows? We have no idea how long this has been going on. But thank God, because he did not have respect for her. If either of these two people did, this wouldn't have happened in this way. And she did seemingly appear truly blindsided, genuinely truly blindsided. And again, I could not care less about Kyle. Okay, so let's get into page six's official piece, and then Sierra's, allegedly Sierra's reaction earlier today. This is per page six. Amanda Patula and West Wilson are in a full blown relationship. Page six is told, after the summer house co-stars finally confess to their secret romance via a joint statement on Tuesday. Also, I have to sidebar. Remember West going on Watch What Happens and not being asked a single question about Sierra? Which happened why? Why was he not, did he ask for them to not ask any questions about Sierra? Someone made that choice. And Andy did an AC Live this week, I think in Chicago, where he said something along the lines of like, he didn't believe the rumors are real. So then I wonder in my head, who made the decision not to ask him any questions about Sierra, but also ask him questions about Amanda. Why was that decision made? What was he thinking in his mind? If he, I don't even know, or somebody on his team asked them not to ask him any questions about Sierra, why don't you do the same with Amanda? Like where did that come from? Or maybe it genuinely didn't come from him or his camp. And it came internally, like who, how did that happen? Especially if Andy is saying he had no idea and I have no reason to not believe him. Okay, source connected to the situation, blah, blah, blah, finally confessed to their secret romance via a joint statement on Tuesday. A source connected to the situation claimed to us that the two are a couple. It's not just a hookup, which again, that would also not be good. It's much worse that it's this. It's so much worse that it's this. Cause it's the care they put into each other that they didn't, their friend, our insider insisted circling back, adding that the duo's castmates, including Wilson's ex Sierra Miller and Batula's ex Kyle Cook, are quote, pissed and disappointed. After weeks of mounting rumors and undeniable evidence, Batula 34 and Wilson 31, oh my God, so young. I mean, older than me, obviously, confirmed their romantic connection with a message shared via their respective Instagram stories, which is our new Zapruder film. We've seen the growing online speculation. So while this is still very new, we wanted to provide some clarity. It was never our intention to purposely hide anything, given the complicated relationship dynamics involved and reading this very quickly. And the scrutiny that comes with being on a reality show, cause I read it before, we needed a little space to process things privately before it's being processed things, like it happened to them and they didn't choose to do it to each other. They continued, we've shown up for each other as friends over the years and all of that is gonna be looked at anew through all the highs and lows. And what's developed recently was the last thing either of us expected. Our connection grew, I can't believe this is real as I'm saying, and I'm so sorry, this is like fucking insane, grew out of a genuine longstanding friendship, which made it especially important for us to approach this with care. Again, approach this with your relationship with care, but not your pal, who you both fucked over so hard, not in the way that you're fucking each other. The pair explained that because their feelings evolved, they wanted to take time to understand exactly what they were feeling. Fuck you so bad. We also recognize that this has had an impact beyond just us, but we're not naming who is impacted cause that would make us maybe not look great and never wanted our actions to cause any hurt or be perceived as careless. Really genuinely, I hope Lindsay is now doing some stretching exercises. Let's do some core work. Let's go for some long walks. Do not listen to any meditation. Maybe focus on red meat for the next couple of weeks, sharpen the nails. Can't wait for that reunion performance. Let's see Hubbard, our nation needs you. We are calling you to action. We pray that you are on your level best. Let's get her a new coffee maker. Let's get her the very best Nespresso can do. Let's watch Lindsay Hubbard cook. She is the veggie broth for our soul and we need her. Lindsay, it is your time. Not to say that Sierra cannot stand up for herself. We know she can quite effectively, but Lindsay Hubbard is the nation's foremost, can we call her sort of like a pit bull energy? And I mean that with all the love. I know pit bulls are incredible animals and I don't mean to rely on a stereotype of the pit bull community. I in fact have a cousin who has an incredible, adorable, very sweet, very loving pit bull. I am just saying, you know, as a, as a like a, you know, just don't take that literally, spiritually, spiritually, and just shout out to all the pit bulls listening, pit bull the singer. If you are an AG, please join the Patreon. Where was I? Perceived as careless, probably was there. We truly appreciate the understanding and respect as we navigate this. No one has understanding or respect. You don't have it for each other or probably yourselves. Reps for Batula, Wilson, Miller, Cook, and Bravo, say that five times fast. Didn't, couldn't title that Amanda's cooked? No, too soon. Did not immediately respond to page six's request for comment. Imagine, imagine what it is like at that task rabbit where Batula and Wilson procured today's publicist. On March 26, hmm, that's not the day before. We revealed that Bestie's Batula and Miller 30 had recently experienced a fracture in their friendship amid the growing speculation, which I talked about on the episode with Alison Libby, which again, we're putting in the Andy Skrull Smithsonian. They were scheduled to film a joint Amazon live presentation for Ollie vitamins and supplements on March 24, but ended up doing it separately. I wonder when that was booked. When was that collab booked? At what point during that booking between Amanda and her good friend, Sarah, did Amanda and West start to smooch? We also noticed that they stopped liking each other's Instagram posts and even seemingly unliked many from the past. Batula, Wilson, ugh, he's saying that together. We're not making them into a fun celebrity romance name. This is no benefit. Romance rumors began swirling on March 5 when a source told Demois, they were spotted being openly flirty, allegedly even holding hands under the table at an event in New York City. At the time, neither publicly denied the chatter. Then when the topic came up during Wilson's March 24 appearance on Watch What Happens Live with Andy Cohen, he explained, she's single now and it's happened with other people that she's hung out with. That must feel great for her that he doesn't wanna claim her publicly. I mean, I understand that this is complicated. You wouldn't believe it if you had just read their statement and didn't have common sense, but it is in fact a little deaf. We're just hanging, it's fun that she's with them. I don't, I'm just wondering when you like compare her issues with Kyle and how that, I don't know. I'm just curious how this is gonna go for Mandy. We're just hanging out in New York, she's single. I gotta show her the streets, you know? Did he mean sheets? I'm pretty sure he did. He added, if it's not clear, that's a very important person to me, apparently. And I like care about her a lot, calling Batula a friend when pressed further. After Wilson's remarks aired, an Instagram user, ooh, nameless and not hyperlinked, theorized, West is a safe boy bestie for Amanda because they never date. I forgot about this. I hate them. West is a safe boy bestie for Amanda because they never date. He's so much fun, he cares about his friends and they have mutual friends to hang out with all the time. Batula replied to the comment, thank you. How many use? One, two, three, four, five, six, seven. That's the amount of miles I walked before this emergency episode. And she was fucking him during that time. Wow, wow, wow. Did they just think we wouldn't know? But apparently this is like a real relationship. So how was this rollout gonna go? The Amanda Batula swim founder and sidebar, we've canceled the beach this summer. So if you had pre-ordered Amanda Batula Bikini, return to sender, thank you so much. An estranged husband cook 43 announced their split in January after four years of marriage, but really honestly, 28. Summerhouse fans are watching the deterioration of their marriage play out on the currently airing 10th season of the reality show, and the last, just kidding, that'll never happen, which filmed last summer. Cameras captured Miller and Wilson having Batula's back as she navigated her relationship struggles. In fact, how would you ever trust her as a friend? Hate to say it, too much? Am I saying too much now, 46 minutes in? How could you ever trust her again? Fellow, fellow lady people and every gender, how could you ever trust her again after this? How could you ever trust her saying how much she respects her friendship and respects you as a person and a support? How could you ever do that? How could you ever do that again? And I'm not saying West isn't a piece of shit, but the center here is the friendship between America, America, America, Amanda and Sierra. And also West, he's not exempt from this, but that's the stakes. The stakes here, yes, include West, but it's that central female friendship, caring sisterhood. This is like sisterhood of the traveling pants, West pants, short pants. In fact, on the March 24 episode, Wilson comforted a crying Batula and stood up to cook for losing his temper on her. In a recent interview with Marie Claire that I'm gonna get into live on the Patreon in just a minute, Batula praised both Miller and West for their support. Oh, I guess this is kind of like a spoiler for me. It would have been a very difficult summer to get through without Sierra. Yeah, that's right. She is one of the kindest, most loving, loyal friends I've ever had. Well, Amanda's got memories now. She sends me texts out of the blue, reminding me how strong, powerful, smart, and kind I am. I don't even think, this is me reading it live, I don't even think she realizes how much I needed those texts. So was she sending you those texts when you started shdipping or whatever, or feelings changing for West? That must have been tough when those feelings changed, but how great for you that you had this newfound confidence because of Sierra helping rebuild you up. How fortunate for you that this was fuel that you needed not to become, God forbid, your own person, but find a new man for a new identity. I don't have empathy for Amanda, but it can't come at the cost of her great pal. You know what I'm saying? It's also meant so much to me how supportive West has been. He seems very supportive, maybe. Yep, not even gonna go there. On that joke has been throughout the season, sometimes in ways I wasn't even aware of when filming. It's not performative. No, it's definitely not. It's just really authentic to who West is. I think at HG Homework, we should all go back and listen to that reunion where an eye dragged him to hell from two seasons ago. Please go back and listen to that HG episode, because that's the real Sarah, not this girl. Where I was like, West has changed. He's a Labrador again. No, go back, go back in time. I never should have let my guard down with a man, with a straight man. Ugh, I'm learning bad lessons. He checks Kyle and puts him in his place. Who's gonna do that for West? Lindsay, calling you, our nation needs you now. And you'll continue to see him be there for me, Boundcha Goowow throughout the season, Boundcha Goowow and more. Can you imagine? Oh my God, and I live in New York City. Oh my God. I don't think we're going to like, to the same spots, but maybe, can you imagine if I ever like walked by and they were just like having a nice, I mean, can they go outside right now? Who owns which neighborhood and which borough and which? Ooh, I don't wanna see that date night ever. Simultaneously, Summer House Season 10 viewers are watching Miller and West navigate unresolved romantic feelings for each other. Sorry if I'm yelling. After their messy breakup following season eight, remember like when he introduced her to his family because of all that caring? Oh my God, his poor mom, how do you, oh, this is, son, you're a disappointment. As for Cook, do we care? He told Cohen on a March 10 episode of Watch What Happens Live, that he doesn't think there's any merit to speculation that his estranged wife is seeing his pal. I mean, if there's one LOL to come out of this, it's probably that clip. The Loverboy, oh look, not hyperlinked though. The Loverboy founder went on, it would certainly catch me by surprise and feel a little reckless. And I think I'd probably be the last person people would be worried about. True. I think Sierra would probably have something to say. Also, surely true. He made sure to add, but if it made Amanda happy, I think I just would have to vote yay. Cause as we all know, Kyle is very focused on Amanda's happiness. And then there is this very upsetting update that page six posted. Sierra Miller was shocked to find out her best friend, Amanda Petula is dating her ex, Wes Wilson, per photos obtained by page six. And then there is a photo of Sierra on the sidewalk. We're being told outside our mess. I mean, good for her. We, someone, I mean, Sierra herself, get yourself a Kelly or a Birkin or whatever. Maybe, I mean, don't get whatever color Dorit got. I don't even remember or the book. Maybe get a different design. I guess that's the whole thing with our mess. It's just those two designs really are the big ones. But like babe, get whatever the fuck you want. Buy half that store. Take yourself on a trip, go on a girls trip. I mean, obviously different swimwear than maybe what you would be wearing to support your friend. Let's get, let's, let's, Sierra needs to start her own swimmer line called C-era, S-E-A. Cause it's the C-era. See the era of C-era. We can, we can, we can, we can play that out. Okay. The summer house star sat on the sidewalk, slumped against the Hermes store in New York city in a white dress Tuesday. She was comforted by an unidentified male in shorts who crouched down and held her by the arms. The photo, I don't even understand who would take this photo, how, this whole thing is odd, very strange to me. The photo was taken minutes after Batula and Wilson shared a public statement confirming their relationship and eyewitness tells page six. I mean, I know like, you know, people watch summer house. Some, some viewers of summer house also happen to be people in a smaller number live in New York. This, that's just wild. If I don't under, I don't understand this. So anyway, then the piece gets into the statement that I've already shared a couple times and it looks like it's just honestly more of that. I really don't understand how they could, how page six could have that photo. Maybe I'll get into it in an episode that I would call it tomorrow to just hear a little bit more of the details. I mean, this whole thing is so fucked. It's just, you'll get more from me, more thoughts and feels, but my first initial instinct is honestly, they can go fuck themselves. And I'm sorry, if you wanted like a more nuanced take than that, maybe you got it in the last couple of minutes, but I just think this is so reckless and gross. I really do. And best of luck to them on their love journey. And I hope they find what they're looking for and it doesn't come at the cost of another person's experience. I just, they have the right to make decisions and they certainly should now have the ability to sit in them because the level of shit that is heading their way, I'm sure it's gonna be tough to deal with, but West specifically has experienced this before. Remember all that when he was like talking about his relationship with Sierra and didn't understand how that could be hurtful until it happened to him, then he got a sense of like, oh my gosh, yeah, other people have feelings, but it's the New York Times to think of West and to think of the affection and respect and support that has been sent his way for how he stands up for a woman. Woof, genuinely fucking woof. I don't know what else honestly there is to say about this at this point. And I know the cast is posting an awful lot. I do wanna again, I'm gonna do a reading rainbow and hopefully have a triage style Oh my effing God, Patreon with a bravo-holic friend, but in the meantime, like send me your satchels. I'm gonna delay a satchel spectacular by a minute because I certainly wanna include AG reactions to all of this and I'm sure there are many facets of it that were not a part of this certainly stream of consciousness like all Andy's girls, but especially stream of consciousness, just kind of like reaction episode. I really, even when it didn't look great to live in a place called denial, I just thought just from a place of like Amanda self-respect and respect and care for her friend that she wouldn't do this and it wouldn't make it okay, but if it was like a drunken hookup to proceed so quickly into this relationship at this point knowing what it would have cost to hide it. I just don't know. I just don't know sometimes it works. I just don't know how you start a relationship. This isn't even getting into her not being officially divorced cause that can take years. So like if you're legally separated, both partners I think have every right to see other people, but to know how quickly all of this has seemingly happened. She and Kyle seemingly formally separating at some point in the fall. This may be allegedly happening. They're not giving us meaning West End Amanda specifically. They're not giving us a specific timeline in their God awful statement, but that seemingly could have picked up. I mean, we're in again, and a march, but picked up maybe at some point in February. It had to happen for a minute. So for this to happen so quickly and have to start with some sort of like cloak of deception of hiding of whatever, and then to attempt a real relationship, people can make that stuff work. I don't know how the additional many, many layers of public criticism will impact both of these people and their decision maybe, maybe not to stay together. It has happened where it, you might arguably bring you closer, but the cost of all of it, I mean, damn, it's really tough. And I'm not saying that in terms of like, and you have my support, I'm just saying, this is a shit show that these two people started. And it's, and I just team, team not that we have to pick a team because there's really only one in my eyes. That is Sierra. And I just can't imagine what she's experiencing. The level of betrayal. I have no idea when she found this out. I have no idea what she was told, what she may, what they may have said and lied and manipulated. I have no idea what she was sharing at any point with her friend, Amanda, who she thought she could trust and how that was used against her. No idea. No idea when you're talking to your pal that this person, you've held so close to you and they genuinely do seem to have had a really close friendship to see this person make these kinds of decisions that has to be incredibly painful and upsetting. And it doesn't have to be, this is also one of those things of like, but they weren't married, close friends. It's to me, the center of this are these two women who were very close friends, who supported each other. And at points depended on each other. And I just, I think of it just really in terms of what Sierra has done, right now we're mired in so much conflict with Amanda and Kyle and to see as part of Amanda's super positive media blitz, a large part of that is her focusing on how incredible Sierra has been for her to think of where she and West were in their burgeoning Focaccia relationship when she was giving that interview to Marie Claire, when she was doing all these press opportunities. It's just wild. And it's such enormous self-sabotage. And I hope Sierra is just surrounded by people that she trusts, that genuinely have love for her. It is powerful that it seems, I mean, Jesse kind of doesn't count. He's on a music tour, is he not? I think it's really positive that seemingly, nearly everyone is Jesse the only one. I don't follow Bailey on Instagram, I don't think. But everybody that I have seen have been posting meme WTF moments and also beautiful photos of Sierra saying, really showing that this is all nuts and we stand with our friend. And I think that will be really helpful because, I mean, talk about performative allyship. I mean, to really have people in her corner who really see her and care about her and won't go out of their way to hurt her or deceive her or betray her is gonna be really important, especially with this reunion weeks away. Thank God it's not filming tomorrow because that would be a nightmare. Genuinely, I'm glad cameras aren't being picked up. I think that would be unnecessary. Just let this lie a little bit. And I mean, we're all working ourselves up in a lather but hopefully she gets just a little bit of time, a little bit of a break aside from people taking photos of her on the streets. And that she just gets a chance to reflect. And I hope she has a great circle of people off camera but it's also very positive that she has people who really care for her who see her on the show as well. And also, not even talking about production. I'm sure there are a lot of people trying to figure all of this shit out. It's for as much attention as this has garnered for Bravo in the show, it's not necessarily good attention. And I would argue the show is doing just fine in having a lot of discussion come out of episodes, however upsetting they were to watch, genuinely upsetting. And it's just gonna be weird honestly to kind of unpack this for the next several weeks just as a podcaster because again, that extra lens of like, I'm watching Amanda and West be really close. I just know part of that makes sense to me. Nope, it doesn't have to, I'm not in the relationship. I don't have any kind of personal relationships or friendships with any of these people. It's just as a total outsider and a voyeur, which is what we do best. It's just wildly frustrating and maddening and wish them the best. I really, no, I don't, not with this. I don't, I think of Sierra, I hope she's doing great. How could that actually be possible at all? I just am sending her all of the love and the support and by bikinis elsewhere, you know? TJ Maxx, right, deals. Or wherever else swimwear is sold, do that, sample sale, your local neighborhood sample sale, or wherever, et cetera, Amazon, just maybe, I don't know, do whatever you want, obviously. But man, what a bad, what a, and also when a big part of your income, aside from the show, which is a big aside, is influencing and stuff. I don't know that, no, I don't know that I need like, Batula influenced stuff. Like, I don't need to see an Amazon Live for a second. And those Amazon Lives, like, how many of those has Kyle done like at peak Richard sisters drama where I'm getting my tea from an Amazon Live? Fascinating. Oh, the economy of Bravo Labs. Listen, had to record things for your patients. I really did genuinely think they have broken my heart. They will not break my stride. So I had to finish that walk. And I had a blueberry protein smoothie. That was delicious. And then I walked in, pet tofu, absentee parent, and said, I love you so much, my sweet baby. And then just immediately started to record. So God only knows what I said over the course of this episode, but that's the fun of Andy's girls and of these kinds of, not to say that this is fun, but just kind of wild occurrences is like, this is my triage style opinion. I reserve the right to normally change your mind based on new information. Not that I'm gonna wake up tomorrow and be like, this is wonderful. But just to feel like, maybe in a couple hours, my worldview and all of this may have adjusted or there's something else that I didn't inadvertently or otherwise think of as a part of the conversation that will hopefully be unpacked on another one. My goodness, did anybody think this was gonna happen today? Did anybody think that this was as confident as people were? And I know like content creators are made by Uber focusing on this stuff, and that's all fine and good. I really, I didn't expect it today, but also like a part of that combo that I was having with people last night at the Rahori party, because I'm gonna continue calling it that because it makes me laugh, was how long can they sustain not saying something? I didn't expect it to come out today. I didn't expect it to be as bad as the statement. I don't think it was good. Didn't expect it to be what I shared once or twice over the course of this deep dive, but that's where we are. Again, let me know your thoughts and feels. Slide into my DMs, especially if you have a differing perspective or wanna navigate another part of the conversation or whatever you have to say. I am here to read it. Please include your first name in town. You can DM me on IG at damegalley or email me a thesis. Lord knows I love when AGs take up space. Email Andy's Girls Show at gmail.com. Those are both, I believe, included in the show notes for every episode, and they may be unpacked on that upcoming satchel spectacular on the AG Patreon number one way to support the pod. There will be two episodes going out tonight, and many more to follow at patreon.com slash Andy's Girls. What a day, guys. I got heard from a bunch of you. Record an emergency episode, record an emergency episode. Your wish is my command. Thank you so much for listening, and really look forward to more conversations, including, God forbid, about other shows. Not name somewhere else. We'll be coming out. Thank you again for listening, and I will chat with you soon. Team Sierra, team Sierra, girl power for some of us, et cetera, and let the Lord, Andrew Cohen, say amen.