The Traitors Official Podcast

Murder at Face Value

37 min
Jan 16, 20264 months ago
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Summary

Bob the Drag Queen and Boston Rob analyze episodes 4-5 of The Traitors Season 4, breaking down strategic gameplay, elimination decisions, and contestant dynamics. They discuss how faithfuls are eliminating each other while traitors remain under the radar, and feature an interview with eliminated contestant Monet X Change about her gameplay and fashion choices.

Insights
  • Traitors gain significant advantage when faithfuls engage in infighting and self-elimination, reducing pressure on actual traitors to make strategic moves
  • Aggressive roundtable behavior and personal attacks can backfire by uniting the group against a player regardless of their actual role
  • Strategic restraint and staying under the radar is more effective than constant accusation cycles that erode credibility
  • Pre-existing relationships and social hierarchies (housewives, reality TV personalities) create in-group dynamics that influence voting patterns
  • Emotional decision-making during eliminations (personal grudges) overrides logical strategic analysis in group settings
Trends
Reality TV crossover casting creates built-in alliance structures that newer players must navigate carefullySocial media and entertainment industry status becomes a liability in games requiring anonymity and trustVocal, high-energy players face elimination pressure regardless of actual role due to perceived threat levelCollective decision-making in elimination rounds favors consensus-building over evidence-based accusationsFashion and personal presentation become secondary conversation topics that humanize eliminated players post-gamePodcast post-mortems with eliminated contestants serve as extended content and audience engagement strategyStrategic gameplay analysis focuses on emotional intelligence and social dynamics over pure logicSurvivor and Love Island alumni bring established gameplay frameworks that influence Traitors strategy
Topics
Strategic gameplay in elimination-based competition showsSocial dynamics and alliance-building in mixed-cast reality competitionsRoundtable confrontation tactics and accusation strategiesTraitor vs. Faithful role-specific gameplay differencesEmotional decision-making in group elimination votesPersonal relationship impacts on strategic gameplayReality TV crossover casting and pre-existing relationshipsFashion and personal presentation in competition showsPodcast format for post-game contestant interviewsSurvivor and Love Island gameplay comparisonsTrust and deception mechanics in competition gamesUnder-the-radar gameplay strategiesInfighting among faithfuls as traitor advantageCredential and status as gameplay liabilityCollective decision-making dynamics
Companies
Peacock
Streaming platform where The Traitors Season 4 airs and where the official podcast is distributed
Bravo
Network associated with Real Housewives franchise, referenced regarding contestant backgrounds and BravoCon
RuPaul's Drag Race
Competition show where hosts Bob the Drag Queen and Monet X Change competed and built their careers
Survivor
Reality competition show referenced as gameplay comparison and source of contestant Boston Rob's experience
Love Island
Reality dating show where contestant Rob competed before appearing on The Traitors
Big Brother
Reality competition show referenced regarding contestant Tiffany's gameplay experience
People
Bob the Drag Queen
Co-host of The Traitors Official Podcast, former Traitors Season 4 contestant, RuPaul's Drag Race star
Boston Rob
Co-host of The Traitors Official Podcast, Survivor legend, provides strategic gameplay analysis
Monet X Change
Eliminated contestant interviewed on podcast, RuPaul's Drag Race All-Stars winner, discussed gameplay strategy
Candace Cameron Bure
Contestant identified as MVP player, praised for strategic gameplay and roundtable control
Rob Mariano
Traitor contestant praised for under-the-radar gameplay and strategic decision-making
Lisa Rinna
Traitor contestant, Real Housewives alumna, criticized for personal attacks and fashion commentary
Colton Underwood
Contestant making repeated incorrect traitor accusations, drawing heat to himself through aggressive gameplay
Ron Zayas
Contestant repeatedly making incorrect accusations, compared to Colton for aggressive but ineffective strategy
Michael Rapaport
Eliminated contestant who made personal attacks at roundtable, crossed social boundaries during gameplay
Tiffany Pollard
Eliminated contestant, engaged in roundtable confrontation with Colton and Jam Jam
Dorinda Medley
Returning contestant from previous Traitors season, targeted by Ron's accusations
Caroline Wozniacki
Contestant eliminated in episode 4, took personal offense to Lisa Rinna's traitor actions
Alan Cumming
Host of The Traitors, described as physically aggressive with contestants this season
Quotes
"if you're going to be the traitor, if you're going to have to murder, if you're going to have to backstab, at least have fun while you're doing it"
Bob the Drag Queen
"Candice, if you're watching, I'm your biggest fucking fan. You are the theater, the camp, the deception. She is ruling this traitor."
Bob the Drag Queen
"when you're murdered, it is... That's what I feel. I feel that too. Yeah, it's like the coward's way out."
Monet X Change
"You forced her hand. Damn, damn, damn. They got you, girl."
Boston Rob
"I would rather be banished because at least I can go out fighting. When you're murdered, it is the coward's way out."
Monet X Change
Full Transcript
Hey everybody! Welcome to the official Traders podcast for season 4. My name is Bob the Drag Queen. I'm Boston Rob. And we are going to dissect the living. Yes, the living! We're going to exhume the graves of the dead. We are going to dive deep into what makes someone a traitor and what makes someone a faithful and what makes them good. Now we are two of the most... Can I say it? iconic people from the show. And best dressed. And obviously, I'm going to go ahead and say it now, I see the vision now. My man, I'm excited to break down these episodes with you. We have episode four and five coming up next. Stay tuned. Let's get into it. Episode four. We got to talk about this face to face murder. I, first of all, I hate that I never got to do a face-to-face murder. I loved the nastiness of it. It was so fun for me. Yeah. And I got emotional a few times, but I watched those to the side and said, girl, I'm here to cause a scene. So let's discuss, they're making their case. They're pleading to the traitors. These are not great. I didn't like the pleas. Number one, first of all, you're pleading for your life, but then you throw in the caveat. And if you don't, I'm going to come back and ruin everything for you. Caroline was like, honey, I don't beg for nothing. I don't ask nobody for nothing. Okay, well, bitch, you're about to ask for a ride to the airport. You could see that she took it very personal. Why was she so mad at Lisa Rinna? Rinna, you bitch. I think she was saying because she's a housewife. I was like, Candace is a housewife, too. Why aren't you mad at her? I think that's part of it, though. The housewives, they feel like they should be sticking together, just like the reality people. And when one does the other one dirty, they take it personal. I'm not talking to you, Tony, but I'm just throwing it out there. She's really mad at Renna. She kind of doesn't give Rob or Candace any heat. She just zoned in. And Lisa doesn't give a fuck. Lisa's like... They might have history. I'll see you at BravoCon. No, you won't. She's like, honey, if you could even get through the door. She is definitely taking it to the next level. You can tell that she's enjoying this. And that's what I'm saying. And guys, if you're going to be the turret, if you're going to have to murder, if you're going to have to backstab, at least have fun while you're doing it, you know? Yeah, I had a great time. I'm just saying. So do you think it was a good kill? You think, like, they murdered the right person? I mean, I probably would have killed Eric just because he's so sweet and charming. I mean, with his brilliant ears, apparently. I mean, he's never going to get banished. But also, I think Caroline was also never going to get banished either. So I would have chosen either Caroline or Eric. Killing Ron would have been a terrible idea. Ron could have said anything, and they would never get rid of Ron. I think Ron's going to just keep on going. Let me tell you right now. Candice, if you're watching, I'm your biggest fucking fan. You are the theater, the camp, the deception. She is ruling this turret. I love the way Candice is playing. And I also love the way Rob R. is playing. Yes. I think he's doing a fabulous job of staying low key and still being level-headed and playing both sides. And I think he's doing a great job. No shade. Lisa's not doing great. Here's the thing about Lisa. She's coming into the castle. She has an established personality. People know her. She's a big character. So when she comes in and she's, you know, labeled a traitor by Alan, she has to now decide whether she's going to keep with that personality or if she's going to be quiet about it. I want to get into breakfast. Monet decides that she wants to do a little quiz on everyone who was tied to a tree last night. She's going to ask if you want. Brilliant. Smart move. Smart move. And see who can corroborate the stories, but also make sure no one is feeding others information. I think that's actually a pretty good idea. You know what I mean? I thought it was a great idea. And they start going through the stories. And, you know, Ron's first. And he tells the story what happened, the traitor. But no one believes him. What kind of, nobody believes him. Anything he says. Nobody believed him. And even after the fact, when Lisa goes and tells the story and she talks about the axe, I remember somebody looked back and said, well, did Ron mention the axe? Like, they're looking to pin it on Ron. What was really kind of great, another smart move Monet did, she goes, oh, with the gold mask. And then Lisa goes, it was black. Like, I mean, Monet is trying to get someone on something. But unfortunately for her, Lisa got to see everything. Yeah. As Colton says later, she saw it three times. Three times. When Lisa tells her story, Ron's like, yeah, that's true. He's like, yeah, I'm going to corroborate her story. He's commiserating. With Lisa, so he kind of brings heat off. It's amazing to me the conviction that the Faithfuls have this season on how much they just absolutely know who a traitor is. Yes. I mean, Ron has switched it three times. He's been wrong every time. Every time. But if you listen to him, you're going to believe him because he believes himself. So when they call out Michael, everyone calls out Michael. I think that I don't care if Michael is good, if Michael is bad. They do not want Michael in this castle. Well, Michael's loud. He's out there. I remember when we were in the castle, Bob, Tom Sandoval, at every opportunity, he would stop mean mugging you, looking at you like he's looking for something, like he's an investigative reporter. And I remember at one point somebody said, like, you're either a terrible traitor or you're a bad faithful. And I feel like that applies to Michael because he's just so obnoxious towards everyone. So during this challenge, they have to take these spears that they find in the woods. By the way, these woods are disgusting. Wasn't that bad. Four seasons to you. I mean, it is the middle of the summer, and it's cold in Scotland. But, I mean, we have different barometers for how bad the woods were. For me, Central Park is a little too earthy. So, they have to take these spears, and you get to yell the name of someone whose shield you want to burn. My favorite yell, the way Tiffany yelled Monet, that is burned as she plunges that spear into her shield. That was so good. And she was pissed. Tiffany is, MONAT! It really upset her that Monet called her name. But the thing is, so Tiffany is so off. The biggest mistake made during this challenge was when Monet tells Candice that she's on Talisa. Yeah. This is a mistake that Jeremy made during my season. Jeremy made it, yeah. He told, were you in the car with us? He just mentioned that he was on to Danielle, and I was like, well, you gotta go. Yeah. Danielle's my ride or die. You gotta go. You know what I mean? It's hard, too, because as a trader, as soon as you hear that someone else is saying your name, you immediately, the most immediate reaction is, I want them out of the house. Where actually that power, if you harness it, you can potentially use that in a different way. I remember you did it brilliantly at the roundtable when Dylan came after you the first time, and then afterwards you went back and diffused the situation. It's time to talk about the drama, the round table. You're the traitor that I'm going after tonight. Ann and Rob were my number one. I would not go for a gamer. Jam Jam would. I wouldn't because I'm not a traitor. I'm not talking to you right now, and I'm not finished talking. I mean, it's almost halfway there. Ah, that was such a good moment. I did suggest Ron, Jam Jam, Michael. That's what it was. All wrong. Michael and Ron have always been on the table. And I was not so sure about Jam Jam. And now I'm talking to you. That was so good. But I'll talk to you now. You are a traitor. Write my name down. I'll write it right now. That's interesting, too. They would never kill her. She's too good. Great. Do you have two Fs in your name or just one? That was so cunty. Oh, my God. Well, I'm not smart, so I have to ask. Well, you got it now. So Tiffany V. Colton. That is so... First of all, y'all, when you're at the round table and someone says your name, first of all, for me, there's like an adrenaline rush. You're like, oh, shit. I got to fight now. Now I got to, I got to fight these motherfuckers. Yeah. So you start thinking and then you get really defensive because you need people to not believe it. You can't, it's like, guys, you cannot believe this. This guy is a liar. He's crazy. He insane He misinformed He does not he misguided He doesn know what he talking about I noticed when Tiffany goes after Jam Jam Jam Jam turns right around and goes back at Tiffany That's like a huge mistake, whether you're guilty or not. And they're both faithful, right? So that's crazy. But one of the worst things you can do is just mirror that reaction and accuse the same person. If you want to get the target off you, you have to direct it somewhere else. Tiffany, her one-liners, and Colton actually has a good one. Colton's comeback is good. When Tiffany says, now, is that two Fs or one? Uh-huh. Girl! That was great. Because, you know, because I'm stupid. I said, ooh, girl. Honestly, he got to gather with that one. She is going full scorched earth. Mama, I know the feeling. I know the feeling. Trust me. But you got to dial it back or you got to crank it up. And you don't know which one to do at what time. It's a situation where you have a captive audience. Everybody else at the round table is paying attention. And you have to be careful because in that moment, there's a lot of pressure, right? You mentioned something earlier. You want to fight. Not everybody's built like us, Bob. Not everybody wants to fight. Let's look at this clip. Okay. Do you know her? No. No. I don't want to. She's big brother, yeah? I don't know. I never saw, but I heard she's a great big brother player. Yeah. Oh, poor Candace. Candace is really ate up by this one. They really fucked her up. Tiffany, are you faithful? Are you a traitor? Ron. Man, what's Alan got going on with the one eyebrow? This one with no eyebrows. Because not everyone will understand. Her exit. I am truly proud of the way I played this game. And you all should be proud of yourselves, too, because you have proved that you get what you deserve. And you all don't deserve me. Because I am a faithful. Yeah, Eric. With the golden ears. With the ears of a god. Okay, that exit line was magnificent. She took them on a journey. She was like, she made them think she was a traitor, then she was a faithful, then she was a traitor. She goes, you proved that you get what you deserve. It was an epic out. And you all don't deserve me. Yeah. Oh, I mean, she wasn't good because she was off on everything, but she was great TV. She looked stunning. Yeah. And I got to say, Colton dug her grave. Eric filled it in. Eric buried her for sure. I think like his ears and what he heard and saying that to the group, that was the final nail in the coffin. And, you know, I don't know Tiffany personally, but I hear she's an unbelievable game player. I've said it over and over. Traitors is by far the hardest strategic game there is. So I would hold your head high, you know, like you got done in by somebody that heard something that wasn't, and ultimately, it got you. All right, now let's talk about episode five. Dearly beloved, we are gathered here today to celebrate the life of my younger sister, Monet X Change, who has been reheating my nachos for years on RuPaul's Drag Race, and now on The Traitors. You were lovely, you were great, but you just didn't make it love. She made it one episode further than me, though. She did, she did. Is there discourse there between the two of you on that? You know, she let me know that she made it further than me, but I was like, that's not a high bar. Bitch, I didn't make it that fucking far, you know what I mean? But what about Colton? Colton comes back. He just leads his charge against Tiffany. He's wrong. What's his feeling coming down to breakfast the next morning? Well, oddly enough, he feels bad, but he's like, I'm going to keep doing it. And then he is wrong again. I'm like, you gotta pump the brakes. You are getting a lot of attention to yourself. And by the end of this episode, we see it's not panning out. He is, I would say, him and Ron are now the two hottest names in everyone's mouth. Do people think that Colton's a traitor? I mean, they do. I mean, he does have egg on his face, but he doesn't seem to care. He's like, I need egg in my diet. He's like, I don't give a fuck if there's egg on my face. Throw another one. Let's make an omelet. He just doesn't care. I'm like, girl, slow. At least do it every other round table. No, he's got the foot to the, you know, pedal to the metal. He's going all in. Candice does not like that she's the reason Monet. It seems to bother Candice that she's the reason because she told on Monet. So after breakfast, you know, Allen smashes. He's really brutal this season. A lot real harder. You know, he's been lifting. I heard he's been lifting, you know, and he's like down with those frames. He's doing some WWF, Stone Cold Stunner, DDT, the people's elbow. He's going crazy. So we get back in the castle. Ron will not quit. Ron is so bad at collecting evidence. He is now convinced that it's Dorinda. He's like, I know it. So Kristen is now floating around Colton's name. He's doing too much. He's doing too much. And I believe that because Kristen has not stuck her neck out there yet, they're going to listen to her. They're going to listen to Colton a little bit less. Like, well, you don't know. You're wrong. They're not listening to Ron. He's wrong. Kristen's not done it yet. No. So they might give Kristen the benefit of the doubt at the next roundtable. The traders are really on easy street this season. It feels like. Let's be nice. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. The faithfuls are doing all the work to kill each other, and the traders are just sitting back. During this mission, they have to go get these statues. And y'all, these things are heavy. Heavy. The ones we had, I don't know what y'all think they are. They are heavy. Yeah, they are. They are genuinely, it is gruesome, grueling work. and under every statue there is a shield and just some there's four shields right at the very end the last two there were four shields uh they have currently raised 106 thousand dollars feels like a lot they're doing great yeah we didn't do anything close to that i think this is how much our entire pot was and they're only on episode five so top of the mission everyone just kind of agrees like we're not going to take a we're not going to take a shield right interesting it was I collectively agree. We're not taking it. We're all going to, like, to me, if I'm a faithful and I see a shield, I'm getting the shield. If I'm a traitor, I would be like, yeah, guys, no shield. But then once I'm out in the field, I'm going to be like, we need to start care of something. Exactly. I'm in the same camp. If I'm a faithful, I want the shield. If I'm a traitor, I'm not going to push the agenda. Or maybe I could even just encourage someone else to take it. If I can encourage Colton's fears. I think it's bad. I'm going to disagree with you because I just think you put an unnecessary attention on yourself. When we're back in the castle, Ron, oh, my God. Ron's got to figure it out again. Ron's convinced it's Dorinda. Ron is now calling out Dorinda to her face. What is he thinking? You could make a case against Dorinda, like I said. She's still here. She's back playing two seasons in a row. and I think like there is some logic that people would tie on to. But going directly to her to push that agenda, I wouldn't do it. Him and Cosa are just lobbing grenades in every direction possible and just hitting innocent people every single time, by the way. And Rob and Candice and Lisa just watching it happen. Just like, ooh, there's another grenade. Ooh, there's some more shrapnel flying. So Candice begins the roundtable. I love the way she holds court. Candice, you're such an icon. Michael is like, when I say fighting for his life, this might be one of the hardest fights for life I've ever seen. Right. I mean, I think it started before they even got to the roundtable, though. Michael started to feel the heat, okay? He's like outlandish. He's using everybody's face. He's obnoxious. That only lasts so long. But now he feels like a corner dog, and he's going to have to fight for his life. And I think he fought a little too hard. I can say from experience that when you take personal digs at people, it does change the ph balance of the room yeah when i took a dig at zach efron people were like hey it was and i was like it was such a light dig michael rapaport's dig was not light it got to the point where it made everybody uncomfortable it's like as players you determine where the line in the sand is and it feels like everybody stood up at that moment and said you crossed the line yeah Whatever it is, we're done. When people say, I don't even care if you're innocent or if you're a faithful or a traitor, we just don't want to play with you. Not only did he dig his own grave, he filled it in for himself. He was doing a lot. He did all the work for Colton. Colton could have just sat back and been like well So regardless of why they voted him out he gone In the least shocking finale since Titanic Michael Rapaport has gone home Okay, I mean, that was obviously a crazy roundtable. Michael Rapaport is gone. I'm sure everyone in the castle is very happy. But don't go away because we're going to be right back with a very recent murder victim, Money Exchange. A drag race superstar that went from a top six finish to an all-star crown. And I gotta say, I'm happy to be doing this podcast. You're the favorite person I've ever done a podcast with. And we are now with the second best host of Sibling Robbery, Monet X.J. Oh, man. I felt like I was just thrown under the bus. You were. You were. I just love doing a podcast. It feels nice to do it. Probably someone who's like, just so into it and just good. You're just a great podcast co-host. I'm just grateful to see what it's like now. You know, I'm so happy that I that I inhaled and exhaled before I stepped in today. I'm in a calm place. You're not going to take me here. I'm happy to be with a legend. My man. Boss and Rob. Oh, nay. Gone too soon. But still lasted longer than Bob. And you know what? And that is always going to be my crowning achievement. Your one episode. He has longer than you. All right, so, Mo, you've been murdered. I know. I'm so mad about it. Would you rather be murdered or banished, though? I would rather be banished because at least I can go out fighting. When you're murdered, it is... That's what I feel. I feel that too. Yeah, it's like the coward's way out. I'm like, oh, y'all want to murder me because y'all know at the round table, I'll get buck wild and crazy. I don't think people at home understand the energy at the round table is so intense. It's so like, you feel like you are just a rat in a bucket scratching to get out of there. Like that's the energy it has. And I would have fought to stay as hard as I could. I think actually like from watching from my point of view as a faithful, the way you played, I thought you were playing perfectly. which is why I think you were murdered. Because I thought you were doing a good job, like getting in there but not doing too much. And I think as a faithful, that's the correct way to play the game. What's your strategy going in? Do you want to be a traitor? Do you want to be a faithful? Are you going to be quiet? What's your plan as you roll up in the rovers? Okay, when I roll up in the rover, first of all, I was like, these cars are nice. What I really wanted to be, I wanted to be a traitor. Because I was like, I feel like you're just in more control. You control the game more and you know everything. Whereas being a faithful, you are walking blindly and just hoping that you're sniffing out the right thing. When I was deemed a faithful, I was like, my thing is I'm going to find four people. And I'm going to say to them, whether you're a traitor or a faithful, I don't know what you are. Whatever it is, I trust you and I want to go to the end of the game with you. Which I do. See, I think that's correct. Going into the show, did you know anyone? Did you have any prior relationships? So you know I'm a big Survivor watcher. Love the Survivor Boston Rob. I was hoping they would bring you back for the second season. I was like, I'm going to pitch my wagon to you because my sister didn't listen to my ideas. So I was very familiar with Natalie's game. I'm familiar with her and Survivor and Jam Jam. And I think those were the only two. I didn't know any of the housewives besides Zorinda from the previous season. You're not allowed to tell housewives you don't know them. I'm telling you. They don't like that. They don't like that. You can call them any name, apparently, and they do to each other. You are literally not allowed to say, I just don't know who you are. That's the biggest insult you can give a housewife, apparently. It's a golden rule. I can't even walk through BravoCon. I get a text. I think it's the 11th commandment. You cannot, thou shalt not tell a housewife they don't know who they are. You don't know who they are. Exactly. Yeah. How did no one in the castle know that Tara Lipinski and Jenny were friends? I don't understand how you... Like, I'm not even, like, I don't even, like, Olympics figure skaters. Yeah, they're both Olympic figure skaters. Like, even I know that. No, I just thought, I was like, oh, they both skate sometimes. Maybe they see them like, hey, girl. See, like, I feel like on Traders, the gamers are grouped. The housewives are grouped. We have two Olympic figure skaters. They gotta be groups. They have to be groups. They're like besties. So many people have skated and won medals. I don't think they ever... Oh, my goodness. He's arguing the opposite. I know. It's crazy. This is why, Monet. This is not good. So, we have a clip for you. You haven't seen this yet. I haven't seen anything. But this is the moment when you find out you're murdered. Oh, God. And then the fallout at the breakfast the next morning. Let's check it out. It's gotta be Monet. He said Lisa. And if he didn't say me, I would not pick him tonight. You kept your mouth shut. But he did. I think our hands are tied. I do, too. You forced her hand. Damn, damn, damn. They got you, girl. They didn't have shirts? Dear Monet. They took my shirt, too. Traitors, you have been murdered. I'm going to haunt these hallways. I love my words. Ectoplasm on all these hoes. Okay. Damn. I mean, you were onto them. I'm shaking all over my body. That was horrible. That's fucked up. I know that I swore an oath of treachery and awfulness and all of that, but murdering Monet sucks because he trusted me. Should we raise a glass to him? Yeah, let's raise a glass. The best dressed, that's for sure. Yeah, one of the best dressed. Oh, man. How does it feel watching that? Oh, my God, it really... What it does, I'm like, damn, if I didn't trust Candace, I would have maybe still been there. I would have had a whole different trajectory in the show. But you can't play those games. I know. You can't play the what if and if I had only. I mean, we've done this, oh, my God, for the past year over and over. What if, what if. I have no regrets for the record. For the record. None. So when you walk into the room and you see the chair and you see the letter, what's your first feeling? My first feeling is instant regret because I think the reason that I am here getting murdered is because I got Tiffany eliminated yesterday. I think that for some reason, because of my reasons at the roundtable, I think that the traitors were like, oh, she's smart. We got to get her out of here. Did you feel bad about the Tiffany thing? I did feel bad. I felt really bad. Like, that's another one of those moments, right? I was like, it felt so visceral. I was like, yo, she is pleading for her life, basically. Tell me the difference between how it feels to banish a faithful and how it feels to banish a traitor. So when you banish a faithful, it feels like a gut punch because you're like, y'all, they like, these three, four, however many of them are up there, they are like just taking us out one by one, and we are infighting, and we can't keep it together. But when you banish a traitor, baby! Man, it feels good. When Mama Kelsey sashayed away, I was like, Taylor gonna be mad, but yes! She is gone, ding dong, the witch is gone. So when you like get a traitor out of there, like that feels so, it feels almost as sweet as St. Lucia. I don't know if this is shade or not, but when you were, after you were murdered, someone in the house said, let's give it up for Monet. She was the best dressed in the house. And then Lisa goes, one of the best dressed. Like, did that have to be said? As if it wasn't enough to murder me. She has to come for my fashion, too. Lisa, you have crossed the line, and there is no coming back. I will never forgive you. You can murder me. You can banish me. But talk about my fashion, Lisa. Lisa's not making friends. Who's better dressed, me or Bob? Oh, you, for sure. Yes! I mean, like, well, today. Today. I'm not saying Bob looks like he got a picnic tablecloth on. I didn't say that. But I would never say that. If other people said it, it wasn't me. If you had a chance to go back and do anything differently, is there anything you might, I mean, not the obvious, not tell Candace, but, like, is there anything that you would have done differently with your journey? I think what I would do is wait a little further on in the game to be a little more vocal. I think I was doing a decent job, but I think I... If the line of playing middle of the road is hair, I think I was hair just a little bit, and I think I needed to ride hair a little bit more and be vocal a little later on. Winning Traders would have been great. I know that. Bob knows that. But the second best thing, you lasted longer than Bob. And Rob, that forever... Interception. ...will be my pride and joy. And on that note... Does that make you upset that I lasted longer than you? No, because I had a bigger impact. I was also mentioning every episode. Not a big deal. I don't think so. It's not a competition, but I am winning. It's false. As Lisa said, since Lisa has deemed you one of the best dressed in the house, do you want to stick around and talk about her fashion with us? Oh, I would love to. I would relish the moment. All right. I'm done at this part, right? No, you just don't. I'll just stay here and watch. We got to critique some of these baseball caps. All right. welcome back to the official traders podcast and now it's time to talk everything fashion honey mona we we need your opinions on this yes please i'd love to give them so mona decided to go with a corset like a like a tartan plaid corset over like a businessman look it's like businessman gets off work but then wears his wife's corset yeah what made you tuck the tie in I took the tie in. I don't know why I took the tie in. I just, it was just a vibe. But this, you kind of nailed it. I wanted to give businessman, but with a little corset to cinch me in the middle So I gotta jump in here okay I just feel like I owe it as a service to the straight people out there Like why Like what going on It feels like I like the look, but like the corset maybe should go inside, no? You're wearing your underwear on the outside. You want to talk about that? Well, this corset specifically is made to be worn outside. This was made by our good sister Pearl Liaison. Pearl, who is a dragger sister of ours. And sometimes, Rob, you wear a corset on the outside. Okay. And do you ever put your briefs outside of your pants? Sometimes. Or put a bra on top of your... On weekends. It's like Madonna circa 1988. Look at you knowing a Madonna reference, Boston, Rob. Outside, yeah. I'm impressed. Okay. Dorinda Medley. So this look, it feels like she couldn't decide what pin to wear. So she's like, let's wear them all. Am I right? Like, this should be one. This is one of my favorite looks Dorinda's done on the show. I love... She looks like a high-fashion lawyer. I love her. I love Dorinda's hair. I have always loved Dorinda's hair. I think she looks stunning. I got a question. Was it even a consideration amongst everybody to get rid of Dorinda again? No, it wasn't. It really wasn't. That's wild. That's wild. Thank you, Rob. I thought for sure if she's not gone right away, there's a good chance she's a traitor. Back to the broaches. Are there too many? I think it's stunning. That looks so good. It does. I think we need more. We need more, Rob. Damn. I'm starting to figure it out. Just like, whatever you think is right is wrong. Just do the opposite, right? Yes. Do the opposite. Okay, next episode, we're giving you a corset on the outside. Next episode, I'm going to wear all my inside clothes on the outside. And people will be like, that's amazing. You got it. Let's keep looking. So Alan Kami is wearing a, I can't even know how to describe his hat. It's like some sort of a twine hat with these stones coming up from his eyebrow. He has like a burnt orange blazer with a rattan vest on top of it and an ocelot or leopard ascot. Yeah. And another vibrant colored pocket square. The only thing I see is a thing on the eye. That's it. The eyebrow. The suit and the hat is cute with the flowers. But like what is like one eyebrow, not the other? It's giving a capital district in Hunger Games. Hunger Games, yeah. What I love is that Alan makes these really bold choices on the show, and Alan is not afraid of color, he's not afraid of stones, he's not afraid of... I mean, you have rattan, suede, and leopard. And stones. And stones. I love it. It all comes together. Throw it all together. Someone who killed fashion for me on the show every day was Kristen Kitsch. I love, she always wore some like dope lesbian fucking power suit I remember this look at the round table she had this like, it's not sequin but it was some type of like glitter it looked like a very expensive fabric like a suit made out of like glitter and she had this like lace shirt under with a red flower and she had like this perfectly coiffed hair also, Kristen would make us sandwiches in the night and you know she's a chef well not us, me Kristen would make me a little sandwich here and there like a perfectly like, she would toast the bread She'll put butter on it. So, like, Kristen, I just love her. She was one of my favorite people in the castle. Rob's got going on. Oh, Rob. What is happening? Let me tell you something. In that outfit. You know what? I'm going to tell you what's going on with Rob, because I know. He probably had a regular outfit, and he had to hear it from Monet the whole time, how he needs to step it up. So he's like, I'm going to go overalls, no shirt. And he probably got compliments from someone. Rob could have showed up in my room and stabbed me in my face wearing that outfit. He did. Thank you. He basically did show up and stab you. Oh, yes. That is, you know, Rob could do no wrong. I don't care that he's a traitor. Tiffany, if you're going to go out, you want to go out looking gorgeous. And Tiffany looks beautiful in this suit. She looks powerful. This color is so bold. Yeah. And I think we should really give all the women in the castle, y'all, they're doing their own glam. They're doing their own hair, own makeup. So I think that is very impressive. My favorite look of the week, I'm actually going to give it to Dorinda Medley. I really do like Dorinda's outfit minus all the brooches. Like if she had one, I would go with that. Alan, Alan got regular suit there, right? Minus the eyebrow thing, I'm going with Alan's regular suit minus the eyebrow for the win. Well, you guys are both wrong. I give it to Monet X Change in her elimination blazer. No, down, all the way down. Ooh, that one would have been good, Monet. Yeah, but wait till you see these broaches, Rob. You might be good. Look at those broaches, Rob. Dorinda had nothing on you. Look at this and the buttons. Man, I didn't see that coming. You saved the best for last, Monet. Monet, you're the winner this week. Thank you, Rob. Thank you, Rob. All right, listen, as one of the best dressed, thank you so much for joining us. Give it up for Monet X Change. Back to the grave with you, my dear. To haunt you forever. We're almost out of time, but before we do, let's talk about what we think is coming up next. Okay, so this is the last rites, right? The part of the episode where we both get to have the final word. And first up, let's talk traitors and victims. Was everyone able to resist the temptation of a shield, do you think? I don't think so. I think someone grabbed a shield. You got to take care of yourself. I think it was somebody in the last group, and I think when there were four shields available, all four of them scooped it up. It's too tempting. I got to be honest. If I saw four shields, we could all have one. We could all just be like. As a faithful, I'm taking one. Yeah, I'm going to grab one, too. Even as a trader, I'm going to grab one. You know what I mean? Who's crushing it? For me, the MVP of this season has got to be Candice. Candice and Rob are a beautiful team. I think Rob's doing a great job. I really do. I think Candace is doing a great job. Lisa is going to have her work cut up for moving forward. Yeah. I would say right now, if you can survive a roundtable with heat on you, it feels good. But you know you're just on borrowed time. She is bringing heat to the trader, but she's not bringing heat to the other trader. It's just to her. Right. I'll tell you one thing I really did like is how Rob recognized that Lisa was going to take on some heat. And he was like, well, might not be the worst thing in the world for me. Yeah. You know? He was like, I'll protect her, but as long as I can after that, it's kind of, I did what I, and honestly, I got to say, Rob is a really good, like his trader instinct, he's not taking it personal. I think he's doing a great job. He's having a good time. He's so under the radar without being too, it fits his personality. He's kind of letting Candice take the reins at the round table. Can I ask who you're rooting for to win this season? I'd like to see Rob win. I do. I feel like I don't know anything about him, really. I didn't watch Love Island, but I feel like he's out of his element, but he has the strategic mindset and the demeanor to go all the way, and I'd like to see that. I don't think a lot of people expect it. I want to see Candace and Rob at the family together. If I can only pick one, I'm going to pick Candace, although she's probably got a little more heat than Rob does. Rob has practically none. None. Lukewarm at best. But I would love to see Candace and Rob standing there together and betraying someone like Johnny or just dragging Ron all the way through the game, just ruining his life, helping him get no sleep, and then being like, girl, you knew you were going to win. I don't even know how you'd get away with it, my man. But I'll tell you what, there's a lot more to play, and we know that things are constantly changing, so making any kind of prediction at this point is a little fruitless, but I think we're kind of on the same page. Thank you so much for watching. make sure to watch episode six of the traders only on peacock next thursday and you can find us on the traders official podcast dropping after every episode on peacock youtube and listen and follow wherever you get your podcast so you never miss an episode all right bye everyone the traders official podcast is a peacock original produced by usg audio and th studios The series is hosted by me, Bob the Drag Queen. And me, Boston Rob. Executive produced by Shane Redsar and Jill Johnson at TH Studios. And by Josh Block at USG Audio. Co-executive produced by Michael Wolfe. Story produced by Zoe Klar. Post-production and editing by Stephen Wong. Production by TH Studios. Production support by Josh Laolonghi at USG Audio. Music and clips provided by Studio Lambert. If you'd like to watch this podcast, you can find us on Peacock or YouTube. New episodes of The Trader Season 4 are available on Thursdays at 6 p.m. Pacific, 9 p.m. Eastern on Peacock. 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