Celebrity Jobber with Jeff Zito - Mary Kutter

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You might not know the name Mary Cutter yet, but I can guarantee you, you're going to know her name real quick. Actually, just today, she drops a new single called Bed of Roses. She's going to be performing at the Tortuga Festival, which is a huge, huge multi-day country festival in Florida. And a new album that's coming out sometime in the next few months. So you're getting a little sneak peek at somebody that you're going to know all about in the very, very near future. And I got to tell you, without trying to sound like a creep here, she's kind of easy on the eyes. One of country music's rising stars, Mary Cutter, is my guest this week on Celebrity Jobber. The Celebrity Jobber podcast with Jeff Zito. If you like what you hear, please subscribe, give a five-star rating, and leave a review. Check out all our past episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you pod. What if these celebrities weren't famous? What would they have become? What was their first job? We're about to find out. How are you? Yeah, I'm doing great, and thanks for doing this. Oh, I'm so excited. Happy belated birthday, by the way. Thank you. You know what? I feel like it's birthday month. You know what I'm saying? I don't know about you, sugar, but I just celebrate. You know, I take the opportunity to celebrate lots of things, but birthday month is always a thing. Now, when is your birthday? My birthday is in May, and if a guy ever does that, I always make fun of the guy. I'm always like, okay, your birthday is on your birthday. You can't, you know, I even, I even get, I even start saying like when they go birthday, there's a guy in my life that does that birthday weekend. And I go, look, girls can do that. You can't do that, pal. But, but you're going to celebrate the whole month, you say? Oh, always, baby doll. I mean, I feel like there's been a lot of exciting things going on that, you know, I'm getting to celebrate right now. I can't, you know, even remember what all maybe you've even been told or not, But it's really been an exciting last little bit for me. And I feel like it's just starting. But, you know, I guess we could say birth week, birth month. But I'm just like birthday month. You know, you just sandwich it all together. Well, you've got so much happening this month. Today's the day. February 13th, Mary Cutter drops her new single, which is called Bed of Roses. So I want everybody to Google Mary Cutter. That's with a K. K-U-T-T-E-R. And listen to her new song, Bed of Roses. It actually comes out today. Bed of Roses. And you know what? I'm so excited, too. It's the first single that's dropping from the record. So just so you know, I don't know what the actual album date will be. Full album. I think that's going to be in a couple months, just so you know. But it's the first single from it. So I think this is like, talk about timing to the max, Jeff. I mean, I don't know who orchestrated those dots, but I'm so pumped. Right before Valentine's Day. So let's let's take it all the way back, Mary. I mean, you you are a you're born and raised in Kentucky, but you're in Nashville now. Kind of tell me a little bit about when when you were little and music in your life. Who who was that important figure in your life that had, you know, brought music to to the threshold for you? Was it in the family or did you find it on your own? Well, you know, that's a real good question. You think about it, you know, just baking a cake. There's so many different ingredients that go into it. Right. But sometimes we taste the sugar more than maybe the flour, you know, but, you know, both of my parents are very musical, but they, you know, they're civilians. Like I like to call folks that are in the music industry. and uh but as a little girl my mom decided that it would be good for my big brother and me to take piano lessons and there's this lady named miss janine that lived you know i guess just 10 minutes away from our house and uh we started taking weekly piano lessons and she had these cats and jeff they were the cutest cats because i was six years old and i remember her kitty cats that had a litter of kittens. And this is wild. A couple months ago, my mom told me this story, and I had kind of forgotten. I was so little. But apparently, one day, you know, after the lesson or whatever, I was playing with the kittens, and I must have been singing to them. And Miss Janine, she was like, oh my gosh, I didn't know you could sing. And she's like, come over here. And she goes to the piano, and she starts playing that old classic song, Moon River. And she was like, she taught me how to sing that song and fast forward a couple months she didn't tell my parents or anything about it just you know every week for our lesson you know we'd do piano stuff but then she'd sing with me and uh that year for the recital I got up there played something with Mozart or whatever but then she says well y'all we have a we have a little special surprise today Mary's gonna sing for you and uh that was the first song that uh I'd ever sung and that was kind of the beginning of all the things. So if her cats and I had kittens, I don't know if, you know, I would be doing this now, which is wow. And, and you said your parents are civilians. That's fun. I, I, I, I say the same, a very similar thing. Uh, what, what type of business was, was mom and dad into? Uh, my mom, she was a school teacher in the public school system and she later became a principal and, you know, she was so incredible at her job and she was so passionate about what she did. She really loved the kids. Obviously, I feel like people that go into the education world, they got to love kids to be doing it. But I remember just as, you know, a little girl seeing how, I mean, she'd get up every morning, 4.30 in the morning, and she'd work till late, normally 10, 11 at night. I mean, she was so passionate about her job. And now the morning, early mornings, you know, she'd, you know, read her Bible and exercise and all that, but she was going work ethic plus and and my daddy he had uh you know had a couple different jobs growing up um he he was an engineer for a while and then later on he ended up going into recruiting uh mainly automotive companies uh where he placed people from maintenance all the way up yonder to uh to vice presidents of companies his people skills my goodness if in another life he should have been in politics i mean and but same thing where i remember as a little girl sitting around the kitchen table him just talking about his deals he was working on, the people he had talked to. And both of my parents were so passionate about what they got to wake up and do every day. And I think as a little kid, that just kind of leaves in your brain, you know, because there's so many different passions someone can have, obviously, you know, but I knew I wanted to, you know, if you're going to be working, you might as well be doing something you love, you know, and I got to tell you too, dude, this is wild. So back in 2020, you know, the world shuts down and I'm fast forwarding a little bit, I guess, in the story, but everything in Nashville, I was living in Nashville at that point in time, everything went cold. Just, it seemed like overnight. And I remember, you know, business just stopped, you know, just like just about every business did, you know? And I remember I called up my daddy and I was like, well, what do I need to do now? You know? And he said, well, Mary, you know, the automotive companies, they ain't hiring right now either. So I've got to think, you know, who is hiring and it's either medical or food. And he was like, I don't know anything about the medical world, but I do know food. So he was like, so I'm going to focus in on that. You need to think about what you can focus on and, you know, really give it your all. And I remember I got off the phone with them and I, and I thought, well, you know, I can't play shows. Companies aren't taking meetings. I didn't have a publishing deal or anything like that yet, but I knew that I could write songs. And so for the entire shutdown, I mean, I was writing seven days a week. Anyone that would Zoom right with me, I literally was doing two sessions a day, every day, a lot of days, three a days. And it was during that time that I wrote some of the songs that started to open doors. And so it's just really wild. I do think that, you know, you look back on your life and just even as far along as I am, you know, there are certain people that make such a huge impact on it. And for me, you know, my parents, both of them. The Celebrity Jobber Podcast with Jeff Zito. The Celebrity Jobber Podcast with Jeff Zito. Well, it seems like you definitely got the gift. You said your dad had an ability to talk to people and he should have been a politician. He definitely rubbed off on you. Well, I do. I do love talking. I love listening to stories, too. But, you know, it's fun to connect with people. Of course, you've got the gift of gabber. You would be doing what you're doing. And, you know, it is really fun getting to connect with people. There's so many interesting people in the world. You're a people person. And I, I, that's why I do this too, is I, I love, I love hearing other people's stories. I'm like engaged. I love just to hear the different paths and how people got to where they are. And I can tell you, Mary Cutter, that, uh, you, you really got where you are because of your personality. You're just a, you're very bubbly and very easy to talk to. And I feel like people, you know, might just fall in love with you, uh, just by, just by I've been talking to you. That means a lot to me So let go to when you telling me about the whole world shuts down during COVID and you really serious about writing songs Take me a little bit before that point. When did you get into the, you know, the machine, the Nashville machine of, you know, if anybody doesn't really know about the music business, I can tell you there's the music business and then there's Nashville. There's two different things. and that's true and the nashville machine it's such a like a i don't want to say a good old boys network but it really is a club and you've got to be a member of this club and it's really tough to kind of get in into that world so was during covid when you started writing songs and working with other people was that the beginning of of you in the nashville machine or tell me how you kind of broke through and kind of got started uh you know you're right that was kind of the era where the rotten started to kind of move the dial a little bit but it did start before that so i have mad respect for you jeff what you do you know uh i had i'll tell you what got me to nashville was kind of in a similar world of what you swim in you've done it obviously pro 10 out of 10 top of the, you know, heat. But I, whenever I got out of school, graduated high school, I did not have a clue of how the music business worked. I just knew how to sing songs, you know, fast forward the timeline between Miss Janine with the kittens through high school, you know, I was singing at church and 4-H talent shows and fairs and festivals, but really anywhere they'd let me set up and play. And, you know, one show would turn into another than another. And that's how I was making my bread and butter, you know, Kentucky, Indiana, Tennessee, just just driving places, you know, and singing songs, mainly cover songs. Well, somewhere along the way, I kept running into this fellow backstage at different events and turned out he owned a couple radio stations in a TV station around South Louisville, Kentucky. And we'd cross paths, shake hands, just keep on moving. And I mean, months flew by like that. But one day he called me up. He asked me to come to his office and said he had a business proposition. And I figured maybe he might want me to open for a show or sing something that he was hosting. But I sit down and he says, I want to start a weekly music variety show and I want a Kentuckian to host it. And you're the first person I thought of. And I remember I left his office and I was just kind of stunned because I had no experience doing anything with radio or talking in a professional manner just talking, you know, but I remember I'd called up my dad said, well, I don't know how to even host a show. I just sing songs. And he said, Hey, you don't know what this might do for you. It could change your whole life. You ought to try it. And so I said, yes. And, um, every week what ended up happening was this was the roadmap to Nashville. I was having three or four guests on the show. I would sing and open and close the show and folks, you know, that were on radio tour, big songwriters playing songs, you know, I'd grown up on, uh, I'd interview them sing with them open and close the show you know um but a lot of those guests once we were off air we just get to talking and um they find out that you know i was a singer and they'd ask to write and so where i grew up in kentucky it was just about two and a half hours from nashville okay and anyway it was during that era of hosting that that uh radio show that i was driving back and forth right with people and it was honestly just like anything else in the music business you You know, you write with Billy Bob and then Billy Bob's like, oh, you got to write with Sally. Then you write with Sally and Sally's like, oh, have you written with Becky yet? And before I knew it, I was writing in a lot of rooms that, you know, looking back, I don't know if I really had the I definitely didn't have the experience. You know, I was fresh off the turnip truck, but that was the beginning of kind of diving into the Nashville scene. And then once I moved to Nashville, I knew I had to make money somehow. And so I started hosting different writers rounds. I don't know if you've ever been to those, Jeff. I have not, but I've heard all about them. It seems very, it's, it's very fascinating to me, but yeah, explain to me the writers rooms. It's so cool, essentially. And they have them all over the city where, you know, it's literally from writers room to writers around. It's the songs are sometimes songs that you've heard fully produced on the radio, but a lot of times they're brand new songs that, you know, writers will get up there with the guitar or their keyboard and they'll tell the backstory of the song and they'll play. And there'll be four, three or four guests on stage at a time. And I was hosting different nights at the different bars in Midtown. And a lot of the folks that would be in the audience were other writers, artists, business people. And that was kind of, you know, really just the way I met a lot of people. And so I was writing during the day, then hosting those shows at night, right up until the pandemic. And then, of course, the infamous phone call with my dad, where he was like, yo, buckle down on what you can't control. So that's, that's kind of how it happened for me. You know, it's so, I mean, look, there's so many people and I'm sure they, they come up to you just like they come up to me. People, people will say like, how do I get into, how do I get into it? How do I do this? How do I, You know, and I think you just gave such a great example of what to do. So nobody knows, right? Nobody knows what they're doing. How do I get into radio? How do I get into country? How do I get into songwriting? You know, the answer is just do it. Nobody knows. Oh, I love that. Nobody knows what they're doing, right? Nobody, you had no idea how to host a show, but you met this guy and you did it. And then you met other people and you did it. And that, I mean, I think just do it. You know, nobody knows the exact starting point, you know, what, what there is. Just do it. You know, if you're really passionate about something, you got to just, I mean, yeah, there's, there's a playbook for, for everything, but everybody's playbook is different, right? So yours is definitely different than, and then a lot of other people. So before country music, before writing songs, what was your first job? Celebrity Jobber. The Celebrity Jobber podcast with Jeff Zito. Before country music, before writing songs, what was your first job? Man, well, you know, right out of high school is when I started playing all the different cover gigs. So I don't know if that's what you would kind of count as the first making a little bit of money here and there, you know. And then WBRT was my first true employer. So it was radio, you know. And for radio, so your first job was basically hosting these shows for the radio station? Did you, when you were growing up, when you were a kid, when you were in high school, did you ever work at the mall? Did you ever, you know, did you ever have a job like that? Or was that your very first paycheck was from the radio station? Well, the mall for us was about an hour, hour and a half away. So I didn't work at the mall or anything, but I was really active in 4-H. So I was, I mean, I was the county president. I was gone a lot with that actually represent our county. I sound real country right now. I was doing a lot of high school. And then also I was in the marching band, state champions two years in a row. And I was the field commander for that. So my folks, you know, they had my brother and me really active in the extracurricular. So I didn't have, you know, I wasn't flipping burgers. You know, I ate a lot of burgers. I will say that. But my first true paycheck was, you know, from the different, you know, gigs I was playing and then WBRT, which is pretty wild. That is pretty wild. That's cool. And do you consider that meeting with the guy that owned the radio station? I mean, he really, to me, it seems like he really opened up a lot of doors for you. What do you think if it wasn't that? Was there a particular big break? And I know you've written a lot of songs for other established country artists that have gone on to chart and do very well. What do you is there like a moment in time where something happened where you were like, Mary Cutter, you're gone. This is it, man. This is this is what it is. So was there like a life changing moment for you that you can look back on maybe right now, reminisce a little bit? that's something because I think the best is yet to come, Mary, maybe maybe it's this conversation that we're having right now. Who knows? But up until now, what do you think? What do you think was that big break that really got you where you're at right now? I really love that. And, you know, that's a really good point, too. You know, if I hadn't sat down with Roth Stratton, that's his name, who on the radio stations, who knows, you know, if I even would have come to Nashville. And, you know, of course, you know, after I moved to town was when I was rotten. you know, for those different artists that, you know, some of those songwriting credits, you know, opened up a lot of doors for me in town. I will say with my own artistry, I'll say it was really when I started just hosting every single day songs that I was writing that I was singing on and I was just throwing them out into the universe. And I remember I was back at home for the holidays up in Kentucky and I had written this song. It wasn't out or anything, but I had written it. I had a little demo of it. It was about my great granddaddy who was a bootlegger and he had built a church using some of the money that he had been making from bootlegging. Anyway, I remember I was back home and I thought to myself, man, you know, it really would be kind of cool to film that song, you know, out in front of the church, you know, because it's still standing and everything. And of course, I went out and filmed that. At that point, I had zero numbers. OK, I've been writing and everything, but on social media, I had no following at all. I just really been using the last couple of years right for other folks. But I went out to that church and I just filmed a little verse chorus of it. And I remember the next morning I woke up and it was almost six million views. Wow. And that was just kind of it just had this explosive moment. And and I always told myself because you know I had you know I friends with a lot of artists in town that you know maybe they got their start from social media And I always told myself if I ever had a little piece of momentum that maybe gets you know a little spark or something I was going to keep the pedal down Right. And so as soon as that, you know, hit, I was like, all right, baby, let's go. And I caught up on my co-writer friends. I was like, y'all, you know, because I've been writing a ton. I remember that year I'd had 452 sessions. writing sessions. Wow. And I was writing a lot, but maybe a dozen of them were for me. I mean, almost everything, you know, was writing for other artists to sing. And, you know, I was real blessed, you know, at that point, you know, I've been having some songs that charted and songs and movies and commercials and all that. But I just, you know, hadn't really flipped the switch yet. I knew I wanted to, but I didn't really know how to, which goes back to what you were just saying. You need to just do it. Just do it anyway. But I call my buddies after that song pops off. I'll say, all right, y'all, we got to write some more songs. And so we just, you know, I started writing at nights and weekends, so I would have more songs to be posted and sharing with folks. And it just kind of the rocket ship started and it didn't really stop. And now here we are. Wow. That's amazing. You know, I don't. And there's so many people listening out there. Well, first of all, I wanted to say this. There's so many people listening out there that thinks like going viral. That's what everybody's trying to do, right? It's not that easy. You just don't put something out there and sick. And the next day, 6 million people are, you know, have listened. That does not happen. And I know there's these social media influencers and that's their goal, but I mean, everybody knows that does not happen. So that happened for you. Tell me just a little bit about it in case people don't realize maybe some people that are not from the South, they don't realize what bootlegging is. You talked about that song was about your grandfather and he was a bootlegger and it was back in the South that, um, you know, back in the day where, um, you know, they had to be careful about, uh, you know, selling moonshine and whiskey and stuff like that. Tell us a little bit about bootlegging. Absolutely. Um, well, you know, I grew up hearing stories about my great granddaddy. And he was really, he lived a very colorful life. He was an orphan and he, you know, pulled himself up by his bootstraps and he got into real estate at, at one point, the last gold rush, which is, he was born actually, this is my great granddaddy, and big age gaps in between literally every generation. And my grandpa was his ninth out of 10th children. So my great granddaddy, the last gold rush, it was like 1890 something. He even went out to look for gold. So this guy was like, he was ready for some action, you know, just to go for it. He was a hustler. Yeah. He was a hustler. Well, he got into bootlegging whenever prohibition hit. And I mean, this fellow, my goodness, he really did definitely create a little empire for himself. But whenever the stock market crashed, this story has always stayed with me because he really built something so huge well when the stock market crashed he lost everything i mean literally everything and uh he had multiple mansions in central kentucky one of them is a is owned by the government now actually you can go get married there have a party there it's called wickland it's absolutely beautiful and um i mean he actually had a run-in with al capone there oh He was a very interesting character, but it always struck me so interesting that obviously he was not a choir boy if he was a bootlegger. You know what I'm saying? But, you know, you don't run in without Capone for just, you know, selling Girl Scout cookies. But he obviously really loved his community, and he was a man of faith. And there's just a lot of moral gray. But growing up, I was just so fascinated with his story. It's a cool story. Whenever I wrote the song, I don't know, I wasn't expecting folks to even necessarily, you know, I didn't know how people are going to respond because it's kind of a niche idea, I guess. But it was really wild. Whenever I had shared it online, so many folks were commenting saying, my great grandfather was a bootlegger. Oh, my great uncle ran shine back in eastern Kentucky. It was like, it was really, really fascinating. It sounds like it was something that maybe a lot of the folks, you know, were doing during that era, maybe a little bit before, a little bit after as well. But it's pretty wild. It is. And you know what's different about you, Mary Cutter? And I'm sure you've been told this before, but in country, in the genre of country, it's really buttoned up and it's, you know, it's about growing up. It's about wholesome values. It's about Jesus. It's right. And it seems like a lot of your songs, you're on the cutting edge of reality, you know, and some of your songs are a little risque. And I was listening to one. I will take that as a compliment. And I think it should be taken that way because it's not being done. You know what I mean? And I look at other guys, maybe like Jelly Roll, who is maybe somewhat in that world where it's, you know, he talks about some things. Like I was listening to one of your songs, which was called Devil Wears a Lab Coat. I think that was the title of it. Yes, yes. And it was such a cool concept. And it was just about, you know, the world today and they're prescribing drugs to people. Yet, you know, this guy's getting rich and the guy that's getting the drugs is got got a ticket to an early grave. And so I see you being very not controversial, but in in the world of country, you're doing something a little different, which I think is going to really cut through to a lot of people. That means so much to me. Thank you. And it means a lot that you were, you know, listening to my songs to just, you know, this is the thing. I find myself being more intrigued about writing about real stuff, gritty stuff. You know, there's nothing wrong with a love song or a heartbreak song or a song about drinking. You know, Lord knows I have written plenty of those. But I find myself, you know, like the devil wears a lab coat or a lab coat. I found myself, you know, thinking about, you know, my hometown. And I mean, just to give you just a little peek into what it's done in Kentucky, what Big Pharma did, we had a little local college that they ended up closing that college and using the entire campus for a rehab center. There's a whole lot more of a demand for rehab centers than education. I mean, it's really crazy. And anyway, I remember I was told by a handful of people, you really do not need to write this song. but I remember being in different writing rooms, pitching the idea and people would be like, Hmm, song about big pharma. What else you got? Right. But we ended up writing the song and I posted that. And that was another song that, you know, it's wild, Jeff, this is crazy. I'm about numbers right quick. Remember that, you know, the song about my great granddaddy who, you know, built the church, that song, you know, did what it did on social media. And I remember thinking, well, I don't know if that's ever going to happen again. Well, I posted lab coat right after I wrote it. I was on the family farm visiting the folks and I'm just walking through the field lip syncing the song. That song has over that one video has over 17 million views. Wow. And, you know, this is the thing I won't claim to be. I'm not a social media whatever, but I'm just sharing my songs, you know, and it just shows that people want to hear songs about that are saying something. Yes. That's what it tells me anyway. It's really exciting. It's relatable. I think that's the thing too. Like there's a lot of people out there going through stuff and if they can relate to, to the content. And I think there's a ton of people that are relating to what you're talking about. Celebrity jobber, the celebrity jobber podcast with Jeff Zito. Mary, have you ever thought about this? Like, like, okay, you're a little girl. You're talking about being, you know, with the piano teacher and the, the litter of kittens and you're, you know, all this. And, but at the end of the day, in the back of your mind, you had to be thinking like, well, that's a dream, right? So if my dream doesn't come to come to fruition, what would I be doing with my life? Have you ever thought about, uh, like a backup plan or another, another field you know another another job field or another path to take in case country music didn't work out was there ever that thought in your mind or were you just so young and you're just like man we're we're we're diving in head first there's no backup plan here but was there ever anything that interested you back when you were in school that you thought maybe you would go into if music, you know, it's tough. It's a dream, you know, it's a million to one shot, you know, and did you ever think about that or no? Well, you know, Nashville felt like it might as well have been Australia when I was growing up in Kentucky. I know it's not that far away, and I guess I just grew up under a rock in some ways, you know, but growing up, you know, I've seen, you know, my parents, you know, teacher, recruiter, and they both love their jobs so much. before I knew anything about anything, you know, with what actually goes into those jobs, I was like, oh, that'd be great. But then I was like, okay, maybe I wouldn't be good at explaining things or, you know, knowing all the intricacies of, you know, how all the different roles at a company works, you know, but I will say I always was fascinated with the idea of, you know, authors and also, you know, like Robin Roberts, what a great gig. Awesome. You know what I'm saying? started out in sports to sports. Oh, yes. Total boss. And, you know, she gets to deliver news that makes you feel good. Absolutely. Yeah. She kind of does like what you do every day. You know, you talk to, you know, cool people and you get to find out about them. I think that's pretty cool. I think that are like, you know, writing books. I just think, of course, I guess it's what I get to do every day with songs, just a little bit shorter versions. But anyway, you are a good writer in school? You got good grades in English class? I was very studious and I loved English class I was I can say I that great at grammar though but you know other than are you know I really I remember whenever we used to do short stories and I would you know of course write more than we were even supposed to I just I loved writing and reading I remember, I'll tell you how nerdy I was, Jeff. I remember in high school, this is almost, I don't know why I'm telling you this. My gosh. Okay. Well, anyway, I remember social studies. It was U.S. history and I read the entire textbook. You remember how big those textbooks are? Yeah, like two inches cover to cover. Yeah. Cover to cover. I loved it. It was so fascinating. But that was me in school. I was the band kid that was hardcore 4-H and I was reading books and I was singing songs on the weekend. That was me. Wow. Unbelievable. Well, I got to tell you, you're real fascinating. I love hearing your story. And Bed of Roses, February 13th. What's the name of your album? Do you even have a name of the album yet or no? Well, we have a working title, but we'll be announcing it soon. That might be shifting. You know what I'm saying? It's kind of like everything else, you know, with Creative Wander. We're simmering on some options, but I'll tell you what, I'm so excited about this album. You know, I've got a great team around it. Yes, you do. We have the best musicians recording on these puppies. I'm so excited about recording an album that hopefully, you know, every morning I run five miles. I get up at 5 a.m. and I go for my run. and last year I started my new year's resolution was and I and I followed through 365 different albums I listened to last year right and you know while I've been putting together this record I just I hope I can kind of live in the same ballpark as some of these albums I've listened to where they just they can be 20 30 years old and they're still incredible what do you listen to it's very exciting what do you listen to do is there is there something people would be like shocked like if you said yeah you know what i listened to five finger death punch or is there something people would be like shocked to know that you listen to do you listen to primarily country you listen to all different genres or is there something wacky out there that you're really into my favorite band is acdc oh me too is it really oh my god have you seen them live i just just saw them live on my birthday for the very first time we bought tickets and it was good for you wasn't it incredible it was incredible and i got i got the uh the horns right here the angus the angus young double horns right here i'm looking at them right now so it was the first time i saw them live and it was by far one of the greatest shows ever it was so great oh they're phenomenal and i guess i saw them the same month as you because your birthday's in may i saw them last May as well is the day before I wrote Bed of Roses. Oh, wow. Very cool. I've never seen them. It was they were phenomenal. They were so phenomenal. And something I did not have great seats. I will be real with you. I was they were expensive. Yeah, I know. I weren't great either. Yeah. But I remember it was so fascinating to me how, you know, and you know what I'm talking about. Every single song would start that guitar riff would start, but everyone would know what the song was you know and then the crowd chanting and i was like i want to write a song like this and i literally texted my co-writers at the concert i said y'all i'm at the cdc concert right now and i told them what i just told you i said we gotta write tomorrow something with an iconic music intro the people will know as soon as it starts and i want us to have a chant section and they were like okay it was like 11 o'clock at night and that's so crazy jeff that's really Well, great minds, ACDC alike. I think so. And I'm looking at one of your press pictures. You're wearing a leather jacket. You really do have a little bit of a rock edge to you. I love classic rock. I love it. Well, it kind of comes through. It kind of comes through in your music. Bed of Roses, February 13th. You just talked a little bit earlier about waking up in the morning, going for a run. What else does Mary Cutter love to do when you're not working? Is there any kind of hobbies or things you're passionate about outside of music? Well, this might be a very unsexy thing to say, but I really do love a good TV show or movie. I love watching TV. And right now I'm a little bit late on it, but Desperate Housewives. Now, I like all different things. House of Cards is one of my favorite shows, but I stumbled upon Desperate Housewives. It is so good. Not the reality TV show version. I haven't watched that, but this was like started in like, oh, four. Are you talking about with Eva Longoria and all of them? Yes. Yeah. Okay. It's so good. It's so good. I'm in season two right now. I think, I think last night, uh, finished episode 12 and I'm just, I don't know how they're going to keep it going so many seasons, but it's so, so good. I love TV. I love movies. I actually, uh, maybe about a year ago, I got that little movie pass, unlimited movies to regal cinema. It's awesome. I can, uh, if you go twice a month, you paid for it. So I really do love, I think it's the stories. That's really what it is. You think that you see movies or maybe acting or something like that in your future? That'd be really cool. Yeah. I mean, I think you got, I mean, hey, look, I'm not trying to be a creep here or anything, but kind of easy on the eyes, everybody. I'm just saying what, I'm just saying the truth. I don't want to sound like a creep, but I'm just saying it's just. Things get better than the other way around. You know what I'm saying? I appreciate you. Absolutely. Mary Cutter is her name and that's with a K Mary K U T T E R dot com for all the information on where she's coming she's touring she's playing you know one of the biggest country shows Tortuga which is in Florida the huge show so you'll be able to see her there and all the information like I said when her album's gonna come out when they figure that out Mary Cutter with a K Mary K U T T E R dot com and bed of roses is the first single you guys got to check it out right now it's been such a great time i mean i feel like we've known each other for a long time it we i think we hit it off and uh it was a a real great conversation i'm really glad you you uh took time out today and and were able to give me a call jeff you're such a rock star and whenever you're up in nashville let me know and i'll take you out to coffee or when i'm down in your neck of the woods hopefully I get to see you soon. Yes. And don't be afraid when I take you up on that because my BFF, Charlie P, right up there in Nashville. So I've been known to stop in. I've been known to stop in from time to time. So we'll see you soon. That sounds great. Well, I can't wait to give you a hug. I appreciate you, sugar. Mary, thank you so much. Good luck to you. Thank you. Thank you. Bye. Bye-bye. I mean, do you love her? Is it just me? Is it because she called me baby doll and sugar for the last 35 minutes? I mean, I don't know, maybe. But what a personality. I think she's going to be successful. And I think she would have been successful at anything that she does. Look, her mom was a teacher. Her father was, you know, kind of a white collar executive in the recruiting field, if you will. He seemed like he had a pretty good high paying job. But they lived out there in Kentucky. She talked about piano lessons when she was very, very young. Miss Janine pretty much discovered that she had a voice when she was just a little kid. What would Mary Cutter have been if not a country artist? I'm pretty sure that when she said a writer of some sort, I can see it. You listen to her songs. They're really telling stories. She's an excellent writer and she's got a real knack for painting a picture. You can find out more about Mary on her website, which is MaryCutter.com. That's K-U-T-T-E-R, MaryCutter.com. Her new single drops today, Bed of Roses. I have a really good feeling about her. As soon as I got off the phone with Mary, I looked out my backyard, and my house backs up to a farm. I got horses and cows. All the cows were gathered in a circle, and I noticed they were all surrounding one cow that was on the ground. and I saw there was something small flipping around and I noticed there was actually a calf being born and it was stuck. The head and front two legs were hanging out but the back half of the calf wouldn't come out and the cow is kind of struggling and getting up and falling down and the calf is just going crazy. And I talked to a friend of mine who raises calves. He's like, that's not normal. You gotta call somebody. So who in the hell am I gonna call? So I called the cops. I told them the story. They called me back about 10 minutes later and they said they contacted the owner of the property and thank you very much. They're on their way to help right now. So the guys actually come a few minutes later and they're really wrestling, trying to get this calf out of the cow. And after a few minutes, they come over to me as I'm just kind of standing in my yard watching this. And the guy said, hey, you got shoes on? I said, no, but I live right in this house. And the guy goes, well, we could really use your help or else this cow and this calf are gonna die. So I spring into action, run into the house, put my shoes on. I run back out. They help me over the barbed wire fence. I get up next to this cow. I've never been that close to a cow before. It's like snarling. And it's like and it's like really pissed that I'm that close to her. The guy hands me the tail of the cow. He says, here, hold this like a rope. And I'll put your foot on the cow's ass and pull the tail, which will hold the back end open while I try to pull out the calf. And after about a minute or so, these guys ended up pulling the calf out, and it was amazing. Right after I got off with Mary Cutter, I delivered a calf. And by the way, it was a girl, so maybe we'll name her Mary. Anyway, thank you so much for listening to another episode of the Celebrity Jobber podcast. You can follow on Instagram, celebrity underscore jobber underscore podcast, or also the YouTube channel, which is youtube.com slash the at sign Celebrity Jobber. You can also check out past guests and episodes on celebrityjobber.com. And streaming everywhere, so please subscribe. Would love a five-star rating. And of course, please leave a review. I think Mary Cutter's going to be a star. Check out her new song, Bed of Roses, which is out now. And again, her website, which is marycutter.com. As always, I appreciate your listening. and until next week, we'll see you then right here on the Celebrity Jobber Podcast. I'm Jeff Zito.