Spike's Car Radio

12Cilindri: Ferrari's Most POWERFUL V12

64 min
Dec 24, 20255 months ago
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Summary

Spike's Car Radio discusses Ferrari's new 12-cylinder supercar (the 12Cilindri), comparing it to competitors like the Aston Martin Vanquish, while exploring practical ownership considerations and real-world usability. The hosts also cover the new Ferrari Amalfi, a refreshed Roma-based model, and Matt Farah auctions his 2005 NSX on Cars and Bids.

Insights
  • Naturally aspirated V12 engines remain a status symbol for ultra-wealthy Ferrari buyers despite hybrid alternatives, driven by emotional preference rather than performance metrics
  • Front mid-engine layout (engine behind front axle) creates supercar dynamics but severely compromises practicality—trunk space, legroom, and daily usability suffer compared to true grand tourers
  • Wireless phone charging remains a critical pain point in luxury vehicles with 90% failure rate in press cars, yet OEMs are only now adopting MagSafe solutions aftermarket companies solved years ago
  • Connected car features (mandatory profile setup, pop-up windows, start-stop systems) create friction for first owners that dealerships inadequately explain during delivery
  • Design-first philosophy in modern Ferraris (minimizing cutlines and functional elements) prioritizes aesthetics over user interface intuition and comfort features
Trends
Luxury automakers prioritizing design purity over ergonomics and comfort features (heated/cooled seats, adjustable lumbar support)Shift toward connected vehicle ecosystems creating mandatory digital onboarding friction for owners unfamiliar with software interfacesNaturally aspirated engines becoming exclusive status markers as electrification and hybridization dominate performance segmentsAutonomous vehicle technology (Waymo) gaining public acceptance through incremental, visible progress rather than marketingAftermarket solutions (MagSafe chargers, custom tuning) outpacing OEM innovation in addressing common user pain pointsMid-cycle refreshes becoming more substantial design overhauls (Roma to Amalfi) rather than incremental updatesWireless charging standardization lagging despite years of consumer frustration and aftermarket solutionsVehicle personalization and customization (Porsche restoration shops, custom liveries) becoming luxury differentiator for ultra-high-net-worth individuals
Topics
Ferrari 12Cilindri V12 engine specifications and performance characteristicsFront mid-engine vehicle dynamics and handling characteristicsLuxury vehicle ownership practicality and real-world usabilityWireless phone charging technology and OEM implementation failuresConnected vehicle software and mandatory digital onboardingNaturally aspirated vs. hybrid powertrain buyer preferencesVehicle design philosophy balancing aesthetics with functionalityAutonomous vehicle adoption and public perception (Waymo)Automotive market segmentation and buyer psychologyVehicle customization and restoration servicesInsurance rates and regional driving behavior patternsDriving test modernization and remote proctoringUnimog off-road capability and luxury camper conversionsNSX market value and collector car appreciationFerrari model lineup positioning and target demographics
Companies
Ferrari
Primary focus: new 12Cilindri V12 spider and Amalfi models discussed extensively with performance specs and design ph...
Porsche
Compared as competitor for handling dynamics; 718 spider and GT3 mentioned as reference points for performance and us...
Aston Martin
Vanquish discussed as direct competitor to Ferrari 12Cilindri with similar front mid-engine layout and pricing
Nissan
Q12 wireless charger with MagSafe technology highlighted as first OEM solution to widespread charging failure problem
Waymo
Autonomous vehicle technology discussed regarding public acceptance, job displacement concerns, and future of transpo...
Jaguar
Brand discussed as fumbled opportunity; I-Pace inventory liquidated to Waymo; CEO optimism questioned
Mercedes-Benz
Unimog luxury camper conversion discussed as off-road capability benchmark; unavailable in US market
Rivian
Model Y mentioned for construction-related tire damage; wireless charging issues and PPF discoloration discussed
Expedia
Travel booking platform sponsor with flight-hotel bundling advertisement
Shopify
E-commerce platform sponsor offering $1/month trial for entrepreneurs
Vredestein
Tire manufacturer and official sponsor; products installed on multiple show vehicles
Next Insurance
Business insurance provider sponsor offering policies starting at $29/month
RaceDeck
Garage flooring sponsor with 33 patents; installation planned for hosts' garages
Cars and Bids
Online auction platform where Matt Farah's 2005 NSX is listed for 7-day auction
Acura
NSX manufacturer; 2005 model discussed as lightweight, low-slung Japanese supercar with excellent visibility
BMW
M3 mentioned as common high-performance vehicle in Glendale; Cayenne hybrid owner anecdote
Lamborghini
Aventador mentioned as size/usability comparison; previous owner anecdote about gold wheels
Bentley
Continental GT mentioned as true grand tourer alternative to mid-engine supercars
Aston Martin
DB12 mentioned as grand tourer alternative with better practicality than mid-engine supercars
People
Matt Farah
Co-host discussing Ferrari 12Cilindri, Amalfi, and auctioning his 2005 NSX on Cars and Bids
Johnny Lieberman
Co-host driving Ferrari Amalfi in Portugal; discussing Waymo and autonomous vehicle technology
Spike Feresten
Show host; discussing LA traffic, vehicle usability, and automotive trends
Alex
Promised first drive of Ferrari 12Cilindri; involved in press car coordination
Cameron
Operates show equipment; involved in garage renovation planning with RaceDeck
Victor Gomez
Ultra-high-net-worth individual who commissioned Porsche to restore Carrera GT to zero-mile condition with custom Sal...
Jerry Seinfeld
Mentioned as co-host with Vredestein tires on his vehicles; suggested 'Delivery Spec' concept
Cole
Johnny's nephew who passed Georgia driving test using remote instructor via dash cam and Zoom call
Quotes
"The whole car only exists to serve the existence of this engine."
Matt FarahFerrari 12Cilindri discussion
"You don't want to be the first because when you have a car like this with like no miles on it, there's only so many launches you want to do."
Matt FarahPress car discussion
"It's just how do I use them? Like, when I get into it, I know I'll take that to tennis and talk to the tennis crew."
Spike FerestenFerrari 12Cilindri usability
"My only skill is I try to integrate cars in my real life and then be honest about shit like that."
Spike FerestenVehicle ownership philosophy
"Technology always moves forward. Whether you like it or not, whether you fight against Waymo or not, it happens."
Spike FerestenAutonomous vehicle discussion
Full Transcript
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Because this is a great watch. Happy holidays. Too much. I don't know the rest of the lyrics. Yeah. The clock's going. This is just a nice soft start. E-N-E. Yeah. We're live, guys. Oh, we are? Hi. Hold on. See how nice that was? That was a nice, slow, soft. I thought I was in therapy for a minute. Welcome to Spike's Car Radio. It's just before Christmas. Everybody's gone. The traffic is about to get so good. I can't wait. Oh, my God, I love it. Everybody leaves. I was, you know, it's 80 degrees today. It's beautiful here in LA. I got that green 718 spider there with the top down. I've been waiting four days. I was like, I know it's going to be 80 today. It drove here. And it was about three blocks down the hill before I was yelling at people. Like, there's no cooperation at all in LA. Still, I was just trying to go to Spike. I just want one drive spike where you don't beep at somebody. You don't have to. You just, and then you just immediately someone does something stupid. It seems the skills are deteriorating. I've seen a lot of no headlights the last month. So much no headlights. And no brake lights. No brake lights. I've seen the last weekend. I don't know the traffic. I sat in more traffic. I had the Ferrari 12C that you're going to get. I sat in 100 miles of traffic in that car. So much. And how was it in traffic? Let's let's put up the 12C. Let's start with a Ferrari. They're passing that 12C around, aren't they? It's the big one. It's the red one. I think Johnny's getting it before I get it. No, I made that. I just said that to because you were like, I'm getting it first. And I want to be a dick. I was like, well, me. Well, I told you what happened. I accidentally. Well, we have to back up to the first step of that, which is Alex, who we love at Ferrari. She's great. And I was at the party and she goes, you'll be the first to drive. So of course, I decided to engage in some one upsmanship with these fellas, which I've never won the one upsmanship with press cars. And immediately, Fer is like, yeah. You're up against two real heavy weights with press cars. Fer goes like this. He goes, yeah, I'm getting it soon. He goes, great, I'll bring it to the set next week. What do you mean? How do you have it before me? I was told I'll be the first. I don't know what you were told. I'm sorry. I was not told I would be the first. I didn't say I wanted to be the first. Were you the first to drive this car? This car had 12 miles on it. When it was dropped off with me, the plastic was still on it. Fantastic. You know what I learned? You don't want to be the first because here's why. Yeah, here's why. Because A, when you have a car like this with like no miles on it, even though this is going to be someone else's problem very soon, you don't. There's only so many like launches you want to do. Yeah. The car has like two digit miles. Yeah, yeah. And that and like these every car is like a connected car now. Right. And this is no exception. And so someone somewhere will eventually have to set up like a. No, no, no, no, no, no, I don't care about that. But they're going to have to set up like a profile for a driver and whatever. So you have to every time you start it. This is a journalist problem, not a end user problem. Every time you start it, you have to like wipe away all the pop up windows. You know, it's like six pop up windows. The Porsches do that now, too. It is. And like, you know, OK, journalist problem, whatever. But I think it's an owner problem, too. I mean, when we take delivery of these cars, like the 718 down at the Porsche Experience Center, it's one of the things they walk you through. I'm sure they're doing it at dealerships, too. They are. And I'll tell you what. I'll show you how to sign in like the idiot squad. I'll tell you what happens if they don't. My dad and his Cayenne hybrid, which he loves so much. Yeah. I was like, I don't forget it. Don't I don't need to count on you? Yeah, yeah. Two years later, he's swiping away pop up windows every single time he starts the car. He goes, I love this car. This is driving me nuts. I go, you should have done you should have done the lock in stolen 48 hours of his life. Let me ask you this. Is there any did they say, hey, breaking miles? No, no, nothing. So what is the breaking period? Don't know. Don't care. Don't know. Don't care. Don't know. Don't care. So it's a press for. Yeah, it's beautiful. A V12. You want to I mean, look, it's a spider. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's hear about the car. I want to hear about it. It's amazing car. And having said that, look, I despite the making of the video that I did, I was not abusive to this car. You have to do a couple launches for the video. Outside of that, I was I treated it very kindly. Ferrari 12 C. They'd prefer you would say doichi churl injury, but like alpha numerics don't need to translate into Italian for any reason. It actually is. I heard it pronounced properly. It's weird. It's like, yeah, it's like chilindry, chilindry. Yeah, it's it's weird. Chilindry, chilindry. No, it's or just once doichi chilindry. Doichi chilindry. The way they say it, it's like, oh, it kind of sounds like something I'd want. Like Chica Twento, you know, Chica Twento. Yeah, it's not as malefic as we like it to be. And it's the spider version. Why is the spider? Carl looks better as a spider, if you ask me. I think the front end, that the black bit is not black. It's bare carbon. It just doesn't really show in this photo. I actually think the more I look at that front end, the more successful it gets to me. I really think from certain angles, it's very Daytona. And at the rear, less so, but it does have some good angles. This car, let's see some more pics. You've a right. There we go. It's the side angle. The debt. The broad side is fabulous. I think the broad side is fantastic. I think the front three quarters fantastic. Yeah, elevated three quarter is fantastic. The rear straight on maybe not so much, but better in the heart. Well, the rear, the rear trunk lid, the rear deck lid is this is black plastic. And so whatever Ferrari is charging to get that body color spend, you know, because it was 6,000. Is that what it is? No, whatever it is, spend it because it will look better with that. But did you drove an 812, right? You driven the 812, Johnny's driven the 812. Similar, slightly evolved, I think. Well, let's talk specs. I mean, tell us what it has. It's 819 horsepower, naturally aspirated V12 engine with the eight speed DCT transaxle. OK, it's a very interesting power bank. You know, have you say it again? It's amazing. The V12. It is amazing. The whole car only exists to serve the existence of this engine. Yeah. Yeah. And then, of course, you have the fact that the entire engine is mounted behind the front axle. So it is a true front mid V12. The result of that is a car that that drives like a mid-engine car. You're just setting sitting on the other half of it. Yeah, yeah. Instead of sitting on the front axle, you're sitting on the back axle, but it still has this amazingly sharp turn in. It's just happening over there. Yeah, yeah. The sharp turn in is happening in a different zip code from your which is how the 812. Exactly. Exactly. I hear this is and probably especially the convertible softer because the 812 to me was like the most aggressive grand tour ever. Yeah. It's because it's not like even they're not even really grand tours because they don't have that much leg room. They don't have that much trunk room. Like the putting of the engine behind the axle get takes up so much space that like the vanquish, too. Like if you want to go on a grand tour, you want an Amalfi or Bentley GT or or a a 911 turbo or a DB 12 or a DB 12. Like because like they're just more comfortable and they're still super, super fast. But this is like crank it to the next level. Right. But you do like, for instance, like even though this car is like 87 feet long, it actually is a little short on leg room for me. Like I I have a 31 inch in seam. I'm not that tall, but but I was a little my hips are a little tight. So there's a V 12 pushers. The V 12 right there. Now, having said that, Johnny's right. It is a little bit softer and a little bit less darty than the 812, which itself was a little softer and less darty than the F 12. But they added rear steer, which did help in a lot of ways. I also drove I drove the 812 GTS, which I really like that car. That was I drove both and the GTS just like this. Does the top going down is worth the GTS? What is this cost? Because the base price is a five 10. And this one's this one's about six 50. And who's buying this? Very, very rich people. No, but you know what I mean? Like I'm looking at Ferraris. If I'm a Ferrari guy, which I kind of am and I love them, I just don't buy them. But you know, eight forty nine, the new guy, the new test. That is an ugly car. That car I like. You do. Yeah, to me, that's a Ferrari. Like I look at this. I reserve judgment to see in person. There's certain angles of like, wow. But here's what I'm just saying, like 48, you know, I'm buying that version. The Pista, I'm buying that. Yeah, that's what I say. Most people want that. Yeah. So and then and then you've got things like Roma or the Amalfi that's coming out, right, which is on the the new Roma. Yeah, that's kind of on the other side of this, right? Well, it's just the smaller version of this. It's the eight cylinder. Yeah. But what is what differentiates those two kinds of Ferrari? Like I'm saying, this is this is the engine wrapped in whatever. Like it's it's all about the engine. And so here's a fun little comparison for you compared to vanquished. That's probably its closest competitors, which we like, which we picked is the SCR car of the year. Sick. Yeah. Sick. Love that same same formula. Right. Extremely exaggerated portions, limited leg room because of that V twelve behind the axle, etc., etc. But extreme that that car. 838 horsepower, seven hundred and twenty eight, I believe, or seven thirty eight pound feet of torque. All kinds of turbo torque. Turbo torque. The power band of that car. Peak torque, twenty five hundred peak power, sixty five hundred red line, seventy five hundred. OK, that's the for the Aston. This car, peak torque, five hundred pound feet. So 50 percent less in the aspen at seven thousand two hundred and fifty RPM is peak torque. Right. OK. And then peak power is nine thousand two. So your RPM is two thousand RPM wide and from idle, six thousand RPM away. So the thing is, as you know, like it's hard on public roads to get to nine thousand RPM. Right. So no one's ever going to do. So here's what's funny about this car. Done that. It's geared. It's not you. Yeah. Well, you know, it's just the same as your spider. Right. You know, you got to wind it out to get there. Yeah. It's just same exact thing. Now, that doesn't mean it's not fun on the way. That doesn't mean it's not making some. Now, it makes no power below like three grand. But in the middle, it's fun. At the top, it's rad. And what's funny is it's actually geared pretty short. So in the up on like Angeles Forest and some of those roads, third gear and you're you're you're zinging it. You're like it's geared shorter than than my spider, for instance. And so in it revs and it is beautifully balanced. The steering is nice. This is the ride is great. The brakes are amazing. But the question remains, like, you know, how do you use this? Like, how would you compare this? Like, I mean, I can only compare it to the way I drive Porsches, right? So let's say the GT three is like the the new Testarosa, right? There's something you're racing around and having fun in. But my daily might be something a little like this, like for ferrari. I just don't understand the Ferrari environment of buyers. Like, what is this buyer doing? Is he driving this to work? Well, is he taking it to canyons on just on the weekend real quick? So this has no hybridization at all. The two nine six, which I, you know, again, I think it's probably the best driving new car you can buy to hybrid. A lot of people just won't buy it. Doesn't matter. They don't care. One right. Right. The the four eight nine Testarosa, sorry, eight, four, nine Testarosa. It's a hybrid. It's basically the S of 90 replacement. So there's a lot of people with with a lot of money that just kind of like in an orthodox manner, say I only buy a V12 with no hybrid bullshit. Yeah. And so this this is for saying, give us six hundred and fifty thousand dollars for your enlightened opinions. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's kind of what you're taking it to the supermarket. It is the big debt. Like the people that I know that have eight twelves, it's it's big daddy Ferrari buyers. It's it's it's it's not just it's not that they genuinely truly prefer the dynamics of the eight twelve to the right. It's I know I know what that costs. And I know this is this is a V12 Ferrari, my friends. And like the engine is it's it's whatever you got to do to get. Yeah. Well, I guess I'll find out. I mean, when I get it, I'll tell you how I want to use it. I know right away, like when I you're going to love it, these cars, like it's not that I love or don't love them. It's just how do I use them? Yeah, yeah. After the love wears off here, like, you know, you've seen with these cars, like this seven, eight team spider, I couldn't have predicted. I, you know, Zuckman, I frankly, we're just going to keep it for a couple of months and then flip it. Sure. And at at the end of the first month, I went, we're going to hold on to this. He was like, why I haven't stopped driving it. I'm using it across my entire week. It is such a great thing to use in a bunch of places. I didn't know that it's the right size. It has a bunch of storage. It's approachable, friendly, and nice in the garage at home. And guess what? I'm taking sunset drives and I'm going to the supermarket and then I'm hitting the canyons and I'm taking it to car shows. It lives. It's living very well in every day of the week. Cool. So, man, I just want to know, like when I get into it, I know I'll take that to tennis and talk to the tennis crew. Yeah, there's new Ferrari and stuff. We'll see how it does in the canyons. I don't know if my wife will go out to dinner in that. You know, I'll tell you what, you want to see me funny. But I just want to I want to find out, Hannah. We went, we had to do an errand across town on Sunday. And it was going to be a haul. Yeah. It was going to be traffic. Yep. And she said, and I was like, we're going to take the Ferrari. And she said, do we have to? Yeah. Right. So really look at it. I think, you know, you guys, Johnny, I'll get to you in one second. I just want to finish my thought here. You guys are professional journalists. My only skill is I try to integrate cars in my real life and then be honest about shit like that. Like you don't want to be two weeks into ownership on one of these things and have your wife say, I'm not getting in that. That really is the depressing moment. But it's also good. I mean, like, you know, you're Lamborghini, the previous owner. He was like, my wife refuses to get into the car because it has gold wheels. But I think that's the useful information for this audience is all. So just like, here's how the world reacted to it. And you should know that before you write it. I'll say this, it's pretty usable as a car. Yeah. No, I think I'm going to love it. Having said that, I want to complain about it for just a second. All right. But Johnny had something to do. Just want real quick. The seats, yes, are unacceptable for a car of this price point. No adjustable lumbar, no heating and cooling, no adjustable lumbar at all. Did you check the screen? Yes. Because all Ferrari stuff, seats and stuff now is on the screen. I believe me. I screamed. Whoa. I screamed the screen. Do you really miss heating and cooling in this car? Like, I would have liked cooling. I would have liked cooling. It's not it's not a must. Right. Not a must, but in a convertible, the convertible cooling, that combo in the summer, December in LA. OK. But but really the amount of time I spent in it. Can't you option a different seat? That's why I didn't complain about the seat in my review so much because I wasn't sure if a better seat was available. I know Ferrari's all come with a couple different seat options. Yeah. But still, it wasn't. It wasn't my favorite. My back and my hips were pretty toasted after this car, which in theory should be a pretty comfortable car. Yeah. The point I was trying to make is Matt and I have a friend, Misha, who bought an 812 Superfast. And, you know, he kind of is a point in his life where you can buy kind of whatever car he wants. OK. And he got rid of it real quick in a couple of reasons. But one of them was he thought he was buying a luxury car. Yes. And he bought a really big supercar. Yeah. That's a massive, hard to park. Yeah. Supercar. In my review, I said that, you know, despite how it looks in photos, the use case for this car is more similar to an Aventador than to a real one. Yes. Yes. Exactly right. So you're just sitting on the other half of the car, right? It's effectively the same size and shape car. Yeah, which is massive. Yeah. Yeah. Well, as long as we're talking about Ferrari, Jenny, you were just where driving for. I was in Portugal and I was driving the Amalfi. Let's put up Johnny's. I sent a picture of the fucking lap of the earth right before. I see his race with me. I sent a picture. I sent a picture. I texted it to Cam because we're doing this before the embargo, which lives tomorrow, so I can't post anything yet. But I texted a photo of it to Cam. OK. Wow. So there's the new Amalfi. That's lovely. Wow. What a lovely shot. Nice photo. Looks good. I didn't go to photo school like Matt, but I've posted 12,000 things on Instagram. So no, but I know how to take cars. That's not normally a color spec I would like, but it kind of reminds me of the. Isn't that because that Gio Tatanio? It's a new color. It's nice. It's called like it's coastal green. Verde Coastal. Yeah, that's what it. That's how it hit me. It looks like Florida Coastal Green. Yeah. So it's the Amalfi color. It's hilarious. My color blindness just saw that as gray. Wow. But now that you say coastal green, I see it. Yeah. Yeah. That's so funny. Yeah. The color blindness sucks. So. Yeah. So yeah. So this is the Amalfi color blind people. Oh, sorry. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. We get fucked. It's you've heard of a mid cycle refresh. This is a massive mid cycle refresh, right? Of the Roma and I'm a Roma lover. So all the stuff I liked about the Roma, except for that beautiful front grill is is is there. Obviously, this has new design language. It looks more like other Ferraris. It doesn't quite have the Daytona black band, but what they they explained the design that said, OK, here's what we did. We started with a pure form. So just like the shape of the car in metal. And then every time we had to like cut a door handle, cut a wheel opening, cut a headlight. It was painful. So we tried to minimize that and we put everything on these black grooves as a black groove on the snout. There's a black groove on the rear. We hung the front camera and the headlights and the black groove in the front to minimize it. The tail lights, the rear camera, the button that pops open the trunk. That's on the rear one. We just want to see form of car. It's it's a lot of designer gobbledygook. But I made a lot of sense to me sitting across from the guy. I mean, look, it is a clean, you know, looking design. There aren't a lot of spots where the metal has been carved out for stuff. Yeah, which is not the same as like the Testarosa, which looks like it's a prototype that still has a cladding on it. And then like so this needed some extra cooling or something. So there's actually there's like intakes above the headlights. So they're they're hidden in that black. Cool. Yeah. And, you know, it makes it makes like 20 more horsepower than the Roma did. So it's 631 horsepower, five, sixty one torque. However, new turbos that rev to one hundred and seventy one thousand and they rev very quickly and the whole thing. So like peak or, you know, peak torque starts at three thousand, but it revs to three thousand much quicker than the Roma did. So like it's one of those like you get in and you're like, well, this thing wants to go kind of cars. Right. Right. And yeah, I mean, everything I liked about the Roma is there. And even more so, whereas like the Roma, when you when you had it in comfort and I got into a big fight with someone about this one, I was like, don't put it in comfort. But anyways, yeah, it just takes out all the damper and it was like sloppy, right? Sloppy road, better in sport. Yeah, it was everything was better in sport. But the worst part was the eight speed is the same transaxle as the as the what's that thing called 12 cylinder. In the old in the Roma, it would get to eighth gear by 39 miles an hour. Oh, yeah, it was the laziest gear. It was crazy. You'd be driving and you're like, all of a sudden you're like, yeah. So this they've made it better. Now, I will say, I think I left it in like on the Manitino and race for the whole week. Yeah, I was only sport at race, but I will say and I'm not, I should have tested this better, but there's a button H E L E. It's kind of like that's the left. Stop. Yeah, it's turns off, start, stop. Somebody told me when I said that, they said, ah, if you turn off start, stop, that gets rid of the going to eighth gear. Quick. By the way, you have to turn off start, stop. Yeah. Every time you get in the car, because there's nothing worse. There are ways to turn it up. Well, for all you doing starts on all cars forever. I want to I want to have the ability to turn it on. I like to get out of my car. How do you do that? I don't have anymore. How do you code it out of a car? Yeah, you get a you get a smart. It's like a person, a person who knows how to operate. Which car are we talking about? My spider. So you hooked up a computer to your spider. Yes. And then it does not have start, stop anymore. And a person. Yes. Exactly. That sound effect. Exactly. Mechanical keyboard, everything. And then it was. How long did that take? And who is the second person? He's a hacker. No, it's a guy who tunes cars. He hacked part of my tune on my engine. Wow. I also don't have. So there's no button anymore. It was on the screen. No, no, it's a hard button next to the shifter. The button doesn't do anything. Wow, that's fantastic. I also don't have auto rev matching anymore. I had that coded out. Yeah, nice. No, nobody could drive this car but me. I could. Anyway, go ahead, Johnny. And then the other so that they said, and they're very honest about this, is that look, the customer's biggest complaint about the Roma was that anything that drives it comfort was all the controls on the steering wheel, except for the main, Tina were touched. So yeah, touch, like a virtual start button. The whole seat still has it, unfortunately. Yeah. You know what? This Ferrari Testarosa party, it was the applause beat when he said, we're putting buttons in car. Everybody was like, oh, it was the weirdest thing I've ever seen. It was the biggest moment of the party. When they say to some button, when they say the next party, we're putting a manual transmission in car. Everyone is going to spontaneously orgasm. Just ride the round on the floor. Pull out their credit cards, waving. I have never seen me a crowd applaud for buttons before. Buttons. We also have hinges. Wait, I'm not done. We have little caps on the inner tubes. Oh, please, please, quiet. Yeah, so they did that. And that's a hard enough for entertainment at this party. They also radically improved the position and placement of the screen. Yes. So it was before. You couldn't see anything. You couldn't see it. Also, it kind of split the cabin weirdly. Now they have like a, they kind of have like that black roof on the front. It's kind of on the interior. That's okay. All secondary stuff, including the screen is now below. So you liked it. I just don't get excited. When I think about Ferrari, these are the cars I get excited about least. Really? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I've driven the wrong. The least interesting Ferrari is still a good car. And I loved using it. I loved it a lot. I mean, I love the Roma. The Roma to me is, it really is. How would you use that car? So someone gives you a Roma. I use it for everything. You could do everything with it. You daily it. That's a daily. Not only daily though, because when you put it in sport arrays and go up in the canyons, it fucking handle. You can do some other stuff. Oh, they're great. So it's like an N11 turbo. You don't want a turbo. You want this car. Yeah. But so I was thinking about like the competitive set, like we're talking about. And by the way, they call this a two plus, not a two plus two. So it's the plus suitcase. Yeah. They admit the rear seat is only for bags. Yeah. Um, but, uh, I lost my train of thought. And it was, yeah, go on. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Let's talk about British John. These are our favorite tires. Yes. I have red stands on my horse. Who here likes Fredestein? I need to call them to find out if they make tires for my Myers-Manks for ice race. Wow. We can call them right now. Did you see that first shot? Those guys have a good shot. See, Fredestein has really picked up the advertising on their website. Now we're not even reading ads. We're just looking at their site. We're looking at their good B roll package. Yeah. Wow. This is really good. Well, they make a nice tire. 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It's on Cars and Bids right now. It's Wednesday. Here we go. It is, oh, that angle. The accurate. My windshield looks streaky. This is my 05 NSX. Right. But why are we selling? I have too many cars. There's no other good reason. There's nothing wrong with the car. It's a great car. I just have too many cars. I remember when you got this car. I know. I got it in summer of 2023. I've put about 3,000 miles on it. There you go. So it was exactly two years of how you remember we were talking about this? How many years of interest? How many years of interest in it? Yeah. I mean, look, if I didn't have a big collection of cars and an endless supply of pressed cars to drive, this would totally be a one to keep. But this is gorgeous. But the ones that I. This is a gorgeous car. It's an amazing car. But the ones that I end up keeping are the crazy silly, stupid ones. It's a little too normal for me. And between my wife and I, we're up to nine cars. And we need to go minus one. Right. Maybe minus two. Really? Yeah, maybe minus two. I know a guy who stores cars. Because my father's favorite thing to do is to remind me how much money I could be making from that space if someone else's car was in it besides mine. Oh, that's funny. All right. Well, well, year making model. 2005 NSX. Condition mint. It has 20,000 miles. Wow. Perfect. I had the major service done two years ago, which is an engine out service. Really? Yeah. What do they have to do? It's like timing belts, water pump. They replace a bunch of hoses. Wow. It's a big Ferrari. It is. To have an engine out service. It was more invasive and the same price as doing the major on my Ferrari 328. But you need it once every seven years. So I did it. So it's done. I did it. It's ready to go. And it's had one service since then. It has brand new. They were zero mile. The tires maybe have 50 miles on them. Tell us about the wheels. The wheels are stock. The wheels are the total stock. Did you have HREs on there? I did. I took them off for the sale and I put new tires on the stock wheels. And whoever wants it. I like these wheels. If whoever wants it, I like the HREs. But that's OK. I realized mass appeal. So I gave you new tires on the stock wheels. And whoever buys it, if they want the HREs, I will make them a very good price. Those have good tires on them as well. I didn't ship the tires over. Those still have good tires. So this car, Cameron, open the door, the driver's side door. This car still has the original plastic on the door sills. It's never been taken off. So it shows on that silver plate down there. Right there, the door sill. Yeah. Oh, wow. So you can see that's got the original plastic still on it with the VIN number. You know, on the 718, I left the plastic on the infotainment. I'm more and more leaving Zorzi. Why? You call it. It's Zorzi theory. Leave as much of the original delivery stuff on as you can. Because it makes it feel new. I left my plastic on my screen for almost three years. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why? It's weird. I have a guitar from 1971 that has plastic on the pick car. No one's done it yet. But Mr. Seinfeld, our co-host, has suggested Delivery Spec, where you leave everything on it. That's the all that we're going to like. All the foam. All the foam. All the Dodge. All the Dodge dudes. Drive it like that. All the Dodge dudes do it with the pool noodles. You need like virtual reality goggles and a camera because they're in a chilled car. You know all the challenges with the yellow pool noodles. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Delivery Spec. Yeah, yeah, I want to do that. Everyone listening, take the plastic off. No, there's metal under it. Like take it off. What are your nuts? This car, I can say for sure, 100 percent sure, it hasn't seen a drop of rain in at least six years. Before that, I don't know. And on the listing, that's one of the least impressive boats I've ever heard on the list. It hasn't seen rain in six years. Well, dude, on the listing, look at the undercarriage photos. You have never seen one so clean. It's it's brand new. It's a California car. Yeah. So there you go. So anyway, thanks for letting me show it. How long is it? How does it drive? Brand like like new. It's it's light. Most of us haven't. I mean, I have, but most of us haven't driven. So some things. What is an NSX like? They're light. All the controls are very light. The controls feel like Honda controls. So the shifter, the clutch are super, super light. It makes it easy to use all the time. It's very Revi. It sounds nice. This is the last year. And it's 05. So what's the power in this is a 3.2 300 horsepower. OK, because it was 260. Yeah, when they were 3.0 91. Yeah. So this is a 3.2. You get a little more power and torque. You also have a sixth gear and you have the painted really gorgeous spec. I don't think I've seen as many silver ones for some reason. Thirty five of them in 2005. It's only two. There's only two hundred and forty eight. Oh, five. I was just saying, they barely made it in the last few years. Yeah. Oh, four and oh, five are by far the rarest. Actually, oh, four is slightly rarer than oh, five. Right. Because they announced they're killing it. It's every one. Yeah. Yeah. So I love that tail. It has full body PPF nose to tail. Look, every surface has. Why did you do that? I thought I would be keeping it for longer. And it's such it was in such amazing condition that I really wanted to lock it in. You know, I get asked, obviously, like you guys, questions all day long from current. Yeah, it's what the PPF question is constant. Should I, shouldn't I just bought something I love and I always get. I give my theory, you know, I don't ever use it. I don't care for it. I don't mind chips. I just don't. I just don't care. What? But what's your theory on it? If you're keeping it, Matt, I. Is there any? Is there? Why do you like it? And what's the downside of doing it? So there's OK. I like it because I will literally like lean on my car. Like if it has PPF on it, I'll just like lean on it. I'll put I'll put my backpack on it. I'll put my water bottle on it. I will those little bits of contact that you. You know what I mean? Like that is a worry about it. That becomes a total non problem, which I which help, which makes the car more usable to me. OK. Downsides, if the pain is old, right? You in this case, you're kind of in between, right? Yeah, this is modern enough that you could do it. But having said that, when I bought this car, it had original factory PPF on the nose. Right. I had to remove it and it pulled pain off. It did. Yeah. And I had to have the bumper touched up to fix it. So it's perfect. My biggest fear. It's perfect now. But that's the PPF from like oh three to 2010. They use different glues. Glue. They're not. It's not as good as what they use now. Now they have they have done a better job of keeping that in mind if they have to remove it. But, dude, if you have like a nine, nine, seven Porsche with the factory and you have to get it off or like an oh five, whatever. Dude, the shop will look will charge you a fortune. You may pull paint. So let's talk about that. So this car PPF costs five seven seven thousand seven thousand. PPF will will it fade ever? What's not supposed to well, hang on. So I'm going through that with the Rivian, which I that was a very expensive PPF and it's certain a rot. It's it's now my rear. What does that mean, though? Just discoloring on certain certain parts that are yeah, like just always pointed the sun like the top of the mirrors are starting to rot away. So that's that's that's the downside of that. It's very expensive, relatively very expensive. And then if my my truck is just not garage that lives out outdoors all year long. Yeah, that's bad for the people. Right. Right. It's a it's a different use case. For impact for sun, it doesn't do much for impact and leaning on the car and whatever. It's great. I love. Well, this this is great. Like I wouldn't have even known that you had it on there. I mean, I can't believe how beautiful this car was in this thing. It's a custom job, so they wrap it all around. You don't see the stuff. This car is lighting me up for real. Like four or five. Like I think it's nice for you. My dad, you should buy it. What's the word for you to pull off? I'm panting. You should buy it. It's such a great car. And if I had all the room and all the money, I would keep it. But I do have very nice sell things. I can't look at look at the size compared to the BMW behind it. Yeah, it's so low. Pan a little left. Look at that. Look at how it's so low. My favorite thing about driving it is that 70 feels like 150 because you're on the ground. You out is wild. It's great. I remember I did years ago. I did I did a ninety one NSX versus the LFA Japanese. And it was like what LFA is fine. It's a great car, blah, blah. I just all I cared about was the NSX because LFA, you feel like you're in like a Cessna, you know, it's an instrument panel up to here. Yeah. And then in the in the Acura, you're just seeing out. There's such great cars. The view of the world is amazing. You know, and if I didn't need to downsize and I want to put more miles on my spider, I want more reasons to drive. Let it let it go and let someone get somebody for somebody. For somebody, this is going to be the number one. Yeah. All right, let's let's talk about a friend's race deck over two decades ago. Race deck was invented over 20 years ago. Oh, story goes like this. Jorgen Mahler was in the backyard with his wife and his wife had put some tiles on the grass for the for their kids dance recital. And he went, wait a minute, why don't I put this in garages for my Porsche buddies? And a company was born, race deck. They now have over 33 patents. They're proudly made in the USA and the install is just ours. No toxic epoxy coatings. Look what you can do to your floor. You make it look beautiful like this. This picture always lights me up. That MR2s. MR2s are great. Second gen. I know what it is. Great car. The BMW kind of, you know, colors on the floor. It doesn't make sense with the MR2. But yet and then the wood in the background. This is what happens with race deck. You put on a beautiful floor. Suddenly, your garage looks great. You got to go to race deck.com. If you're a car guy with a garage that's just normal, make your garage a beautiful place like we have. Months away. I am months away. Four shelves are now up. We will do it. There's already there's already a team at race deck looking into it, Johnny, planning and ready to come in with their pitches for your garage. And mine too. We're painting the house and I'm painting the garage floor. And I finally got it cleaned up. They sold half the bikes in there. I had a bike at a bike museum. I had a bike. A bicycle. You know how all these companies, these electric bike companies, I don't talk to them anymore because they would they would go, hey, we have a new company. We got this thing and they drop it off and then they go bankrupt. Yeah, that's all I got. Mine's the best way to do it. I had like 50 of bikes in there. Like, hey, I walked in there and I was like, what are you doing? Like, can I have seven? I've kept three of them that I really love. But and thankfully the then this is interesting if you're a kid as a Suron rider, you know, they're essentially motorcycles that they're riding on the street. And, you know, they end up in the emergency room a couple of times. Mike, couple of surgeries, he's done it. It's suddenly it's not cool if you're in high school to have a Suron. Oh, really? So all the kids when they get to like once you have a car, it's as you just forget this overnight. This kid was like, I'm selling my motorcycle and I went, thank you, Jesus. Really? Thank you. I wonder what prompted it. It's not cool unless you're in middle school. Like, so they're still middle school cars are for there's still middle school gangs in the West side of LA on the shirt. And you pull up next to me, you go and you take a picture and they go, fuck you. You're like, no, no, I like I'm not putting you on next door. This little kid went back that and I was like, no, I'm a fan. I ride too. And they're like, whatever, old man. Anyway, race deck. We love you shop at race.com. Use code spike three, five, six for an exclusive 15 percent off and free shipping. There you go. All right. Here's some other exciting news that you guys can tell me about if this is even true. Is Mercedes making a Unimog all of a sudden? Well, they've been making it for a long time, but they made this. The news here is a luxury one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Look at this thing. This is not just that. There was another. There was another link to open up the other link. A Unimog camper. Is this stuff going to be sold like? Are they one off? So can I go to the Mercedes? I've never seen this orange camper before, but it looks real cool. I know nothing about the big fan. I know nothing about this car other than this first time I was seeing it and I never wanted anything more. Yeah, that's right. That's right. I build that in a LEGO. That roll down there for a second. More pictures of this is a real. Would you go camping in this piece? The 2020. Oh, wait, wait, wait, go back to the 2026 Mercedes Unimog. Six by six campers, not just any off-road machine. It's an adventure. Lovering Explorers Wildest Dreams. Yes, yes, yes. Keep going. No, this is what I thought. This is a used for how is no one reporting this? It seems like it might be combining six wheels, blah, blah, blah off. OK, so no information. Keep going. There's got to be hybrid diesel power train. Eight hundred and fifty horse. Are we make keep going lower? Keep going lower. Let's find out camping and comfort. Who's it for? OK, me. So this is Johnny. OK. A base Unimog starts at one hundred and seventy five thousand based on the off-road publications, but the camper conversion flips. So it's a camper conversion flip of the Unimog is rolling into luxury for pushing costs towards half a million dollars. So would you drive this beast? Go back up to the picture for all of us to say yes. Oh, God, yes, we would. But that's this photo isn't a Unimog. Like that that front end is legit a G wagon sort of knows not a Unimog. Yeah, I don't know what that. But go back to the Unimog. Yeah, I go to Mercedes Beverly Hills tomorrow and I say I'd like to order a Unimog. No, not in this country. It's other countries only. But yeah, but that's I think that's a U4 or 5000. So wait, they are so. So this is for everyone but the United States. Yeah, yeah, probably. It's never really worked in the US. Don't you think, you know, rather than cancelling the G wagon, they should double down now and add the line up. They have to get a bunch of G wagon buyers who would go, I'm in. Only if they have to they have to bribe Trump with one and a bunch of world find liberty, financial. But why can't we have so in 2006, I believe they brought them in. Schwarzenegger bought one. Yeah. There's a couple of them around. Crickets. Yeah, I see Schwarzenegger's all the time. Yeah, but crickets. It's really funny. But I've driven. If I think it's a U4000 cam, Scan that seems to be the U4, U5000. I've driven a U4000. Yeah, it's so unbelievably capable. Like we were, you know, you go off-roading on press trips and you're always like, yeah, they kind of set the trail up to take advantage of what the thing could do. But this one, it's like we're looking at a frozen lake and the guys like crash through it, like crash through the frozen lake. Yes. Climb 100 degree hill. Like it's they're absolutely insane. And aside from the portal axles and all that, it's hard to explain, but the the the the chassis flexes. So side to side, the chassis actually twists to give it extra articulation. So each wheel can go up about a meter, which is just over three feet. So like I had no clue you could get a brand new Unimog. I'd be so in Europe. Right now, this whole time. Yeah, you're in Europe. These are these are the municipal trucks. You know, our big ugly DWP trucks that like trim trees and stuff. They use a Unimog because it has power takeoff and you can put a snow plow on and a tree trimmer on it. Yeah. What's the loophole? How do we get this thing in? You have to wait till 25 years old. I mean, you got 2000 show and display. Get it to Cameron's Google a picture of a 2000 Mercedes Unimog. Like what is it? They haven't changed. 25. Yeah, a little bit. They change a little bit, but like you could get it. That's that's a 25 year old one. Yeah, I don't like that as much as what I just saw. I don't know that luxury version. The orange one, you can't he pop up that orange one. That's a real honest. That's a real municipal truck. Yeah, yeah. Read about those is the steering wheel is on the left and then you just slide it over to the right. Trees on the right. It has two sets of pedals. It has two steering columns. The wheels on a track. I need to unplug it and slide it over, plug it in. Really? Yeah. Also driver change on the fly. Also, that's pretty good. Also, they should give driving instruction to teenagers. One of your turn, we slide it over. Oh, yeah, I just put in a second wheel on one of these. You have, you know, so the way Unimogs work, it's like a semi truck, the gearbox. So it's like you'll have 12 forward gears and then you just put the whole thing in the reverse. So then you have 12 reverse gears. Exactly how a Tothill 911 K works, by the way. And then and then, however, and then for low, you get, you know, you get, you know, 12 low gears and then on some of these, you have low, low. So I was at the Unimogs Museum. That's for when you're seeing your side piece at the motel. You shift into low, low. So low, low top speed and first gear is 80 meters an hour. 80 meters per hour. So the guy puts it in low, low first. Yeah, yeah. You get out and you can't even walk as slow as it's moving. We go to lunch. And I said, I said, you know, Yohan, like or whatever his name was, you know, Gertz, what is the purpose of low, low? And he looks at me and goes, well, if you have to back up a train. And I said, oh, yeah, yeah. Anyway, put the luxury one back. This is Mercedes. This is the one we want. Like I want to take that out to dinner. Yeah, I want to go to Katzooia. I want to go to Katzooia Brentwood and this. I was that is driving a bulldog. Remember the old Tom and Jerry bulldog? That's exactly what I thought. There you go. There's also a story. A real quick you brought up driving tests. Yeah. And I can remember I texted you last week about this. Question. Yeah. My nephew Cole, shout out to him, just took and passed his driving test in the state of Georgia. Get this. I thought you would find this fun. No instructor in the car. They provide you with a sort of dash cam that has a communications in it. And they watch you over what is effectively a zoom call while you are driving. That's lazy. His mom was in the car with him, but she is not allowed to say or do anything. But she's in the passenger seat. She's there in the passenger seat, not allowed to say or do anything. And he does the test while there is a fucking instructor on a on effectively a zoom call over a sort of dash cam like device. So this is the DMV. Yes, this is the DMV. So if they had the Unimog, she could do the pedals. Yeah, that is funny. Really bad. No, that's not good. It's weird. Don't like how do they see? Did they have a forward face? It's got to be a four. Yeah, two cameras set up for like a VBAC virtual that's they got a mo tech in there. They're looking at telemetry. You know, you're missing out on so much fun. I mean, there's so much pressure on that moment for a kid. And I remember I remember going to the DMV and the jack booted Nazis of the DMV registry in Massachusetts. They literally had their own uniforms. They were the most terrifying police force in all of police forces. And they were in charge of license plates. Like you didn't F with them. They really they had Nazi uniforms, right? And I show up for my driving test and he goes to my mom. Can I see a proof of insurance? And she goes, oh, I forgot to bring it. This guy just lights up my mom. What do you mean? She just goes, do you know how hard this kid has worked to get to this? Oh, my mom is so sweet. She's like a nurse. You know, how hard this kid is at the same time. I'm like, fuck, yeah, this guy's standing up. How could you forget this? Right. But it was, you know, and it's now it's a family joke. And we talk about it and we laugh about it. And, you know, when my son recently went and he did his, he it was fun to watch him, you know, the swats squirm and yeah. Hey, buddy, get used to the pressure. This is life. You're about to turn 18 soon. This is going to be your life all the time. Dude, think about it. And then they feel so great when they pass this video thing. Weird. Not weird. Not good. Think about why there's that rule of the insurance cart now. Yeah. How many people that had to make a claim on their driving test? I'll need to find out they have no insurance. Well, we're headed towards such interesting moments and, you know, technology and stuff, you know, you know, and again, people, people keep coming down to me from my comments last week about Waymo and the rest of it. And it was a much simpler idea, which is go ahead and try to stop technology, you idiots. It happens. Whether you like it or not, whether you fight against Waymo or not, technology always moves forward. And that was my only point. At some point you have to embrace it. Like, you know, remember cell phones. I'm not going to have my blackberry. I'm holding onto my blackberry for life. I love Zuckerman, but if he was around that, he'd be like, I'm not holding that dumb shit in my ear. And everybody go, oh, now look, now look, idiot, you got two iPhones and another one stashed. It's happening. We've talked to you, girl, for a secret. Yeah. Secret phone. What is Google, this internet crap? I'm not going to be on it. Yes, you are. You're going to do all of it. I've been trying to make this point for a year. I read a car and driver from 2004. Yeah. And Chava Cheddar, nice guy. I hope it's a column. You know, hybrids suck and they're for losers. Yeah, right. Turn the page. Brock Yates. Yeah, yeah. Hybrids are a communist plot to steal freedom from Americans. Turn the next page. You know, a Papadard, Papadard. Hybrids are no such thing as a hero. Yeah. Hybrids are more polluting than 50 Hiroshima bombs. Here's the mathematical proof. Yeah. Now everyone, you know, enthusiasts, Haiti V's, but they're all I want to plug in hybrid, plug in hybrid. It's unstoppable. They forget that 20 years ago, that was the enemy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So like it or hate it, it moves forward. And were you saying they get on like waymo's and people are not about that? No, Zakerman was saying it's a disgrace that these, you know, car it was something the effect of taking jobs away from people. And yeah, it's right, but you can't stop it. Yeah. And this is just a beginning stage. And it's what you're talking about. Even what you're talking about is in its infant stage, because I would guess at some point soon, there'll just be a car that teaches the teenager to drive with a screen with an AI person on there. Or just drives. And then you're right. And guys, we're three years away from like, I mean, look, yeah, we were talking about it last week, you'll send your car to pick up your kids and come back. Yeah, I mean, it's crazy. You're almost man in the back. It's like the way you go. How did you get in there and the rest? It took away. It took away mo the other day. And I didn't notice it during the ride. But as soon as I got out, I crawled across the back seat to get out the other side and I kicked two empty beer cans on the floor of the game. Oh, and I was like, well, this is a fun, supervised future. I mean, there's a funny holiday clip that you can find right here. There was a Christmas festival in Venice, where the Venice canals are. Oh, yeah. And everybody was on a bridge and here comes a waymo and it sees the people and it stops on the bridge and the hippie pot smoking. Venice community was cheering it on going, come on, boy, you can do it. You can do it. And there are all these cars behind there. Look at there. They are right there. And there's a there's a second clip where the waymo finally figures it out and everybody cheers. Well, this happened to Johnny's Cars and Coffee on Sunday. Yeah, yeah. At the Helms Bakery, Johnny's Cars and Coffee. There it goes. Wait, wait, hold on. Right here. There it goes. You can't hear the crowd. Maybe you can on the clip, but everybody cheers. They were like cheering it on like a baby learning how to walk. And it was cute and it was fun. Dude, the same thing happened on Sunday. Yeah. There's so many waymos go through that parking lot. Yeah. Crazy. But here, look, connect the dots. Waymo is going to be out of business. When cars just have this technology, no one needs waymos anymore. They just have cars. Well, you'll still be people who still need cabs. So I think waymos in a good spot. And by the way, you know, I was thinking about this in the drive-in. These waymos are all Jaguars, right? Yeah. So I said Jaguar pivoting just to make those because they're going to start using a Zika Zika Zika van. So we're most dropping Jaguar. This is how they're going to get Chinese cars in the US. Yeah, they bought every last I-Pace they had. Yeah. And then they're going to get they're going to drop them. Zikers, which have like double the range, their vans. They weren't like, we love Jaguar. They were like, where do I get brand new? 10,000 brand new unsold. I know. Super cheap. Yeah. Fire sale. Hey, we're shutting down the factory. We got these things. Wow. Yeah. Matt, do you think there's any hope for Jaguar right now? Oof. It's going to be a road. Or should they just euthanize it? Man, nobody has fumbled the bag better. They really have. I don't want to. I don't want to get. There's CEO at the quail. He's real optimistic. Yeah, that was a long time ago. In 2015, when they had the when the F type was new and they had the F-Pace, I was like, oh, are you guys? Those are excellent products. Also, I was looking at XJs. Yeah. Like 2018, 19 XJRs. Ripping. Dude. That's sort of the performance car to get right now. That's the sleeper. Yeah. Check out something that was on the internet today. Porsche restores a Carrera GT to zero mile condition. But it didn't look like this 20 years ago. There it is. This fella. Let me find his name. Victor Gomez is apparently very, very wealthy. He took this Carrera GT and said, I'm going to make my own spec. And Porsche said, no problem. What do you want to do? And he said, I'd like to make it as new. The 2005 Carrera GT is a brand new V10 supercar with a new livery. The Salzburg. And made his own. Yeah, the Salzburg livery. That's right, which was driven by Hans Herman and Richard Atwood, 1970 Le Mans winning. And now brand new. This guy, I mean, if you go down, I love the outside of it. The hard side is good. The interior feel real bad. But if you're going to spend your money on stuff, I really applaud Victor Gomez. Like having them take a Carrera GT and make it brand new and creating something new with it is a really good use of cash. Well, they're doing a lot of these. If you go down to. Yeah, but I mean, I understand that. But I mean, this specific idea. That's not necessarily great. That's a lot. Yeah, but that's him. I don't personally think the throwback liveries look good on the modern shapes. Remember that? The Targa Heritage Edition that had those weird Fenders newness of this thing. I agree. The hard side is its best angle, but I don't think any of these vintage liveries look good on the modern. But just rich guys, forget your yachts. Do some cool stuff like this. Make brand new stuff. Speaking of yachts. So I was up at Cameron Google Victor Gomez yacht. Yeah, go ahead. Take a look at Victor Gomez for a second. Where is it? Yeah. Right. Yeah. Be common name, but he should get that Salisbury livery on his yacht now. Is that him with his pair? Let's take a look at him with his leg open there with a girl. No, no, the other one. Yeah. Put that full screen. Is this the guy? We don't know. No, he's Puerto Rican. I know that. We don't know. I was just but. But so just say it. So I was up in I was up at Canapa Shop and he had a career GT stripped down and I said, and he's doing a run of 10 the way he did the nine five nine. Right. So he's like fixing the clutch. He's putting in full lift suspension, more power and then fun colors. So they're all silver. He's going to do, you know, Ruby Stone and Orange and whatever other colors in it came in. So that's that's pretty neat. Yeah, they'll be like five million each. OK, a couple more little stories I wanted to touch on here on motor one dot com. Finally, a wireless phone charger that doesn't suck. Now, this story is buried on motor one dot com. And I believe this is one of the biggest hassles. None of us are talking about, which is these wireless chargers. I'd say there's a 90 percent fail rate in the press cars that I drive when I put my phone down. It's it sometimes will work. It bounces off. And other times it just does nothing. It just breaks out. This Nissan has a new. What does it say? Q one two wireless charger. Scroll down and look what they did. Look at this innovation here. Keep going. Go down. You're going to see the solution. There it is. So MagLock. If you go look in my Rivian, I have an aftermarket charger with two. Yeah, I have a MagLock on it. I have a MagSafe wireless charger as well. Is it called MagLock or MagSafe? I don't know. MagSafe is the Apple. So the. But it's fantastic. Yeah, no, no, the. This is what I want. Well, the rivi came and I modify my existing one to have that. Yeah, probably. What do I do? Well, I get to buy it. So the rivi came with two wireless chargers that like literally suck. Like they're much worse than everyone else in the industry. Yep. And then there's a thing that looks. It's got the same wood trim. It looks like the right piece fits in plugs into USBC. And this has to be the prototype. I believe there's just a nation of humans suffering with this problem. And no, Nissan is the first OEM to do it. So you don't have to go aftermarket. But I mean, it cost me like 20. You know, it's it's the dumb shit that we care about the most. Like when that one little thing doesn't work in your car, which car? I'll look at it right now. Which car are you worried about? The Bronco? Oh, no, no, this is all pretty much. I would say 90 percent of cars I drive. You want to get car specifics. This one fits perfectly in the river. Bronco would be my personal car. Guarantee this one for the Bronco. These guys. Yes, anything that I have, it's like hit or miss. And I always have a wire sticking out now just because I want the hard wire. I like plugging in the phone. I like the wire. Yeah, I don't like this. But then. But then I have something in the car that doesn't function the way it's supposed to. And that's the beginning of the end. I start to go, this car is going. OK. This car is going. I pretend like the wireless charging just isn't there. Anyway, before we go, here's a little holiday video that Johnny brought. What is this, Johnny? You want to set it up? Oh, OK. So yes, Glendale, California has the highest insurance rates, car insurance rates in the state of California. I wonder why that is. Yeah. If it was here, he could he could explain it might have something to do with the community. So I live three streets from Glendale, and it is it's just wild. Glendale, I love it. It's like as close to Miami in terms of like in car insanity as we get in LA. It's just it's just nuts. It's just M3s going full speed everywhere. All Burble Tune all the time, all the time in residential. Anyways, there's this wonderful account only in Glendale. And they basically keep track of like bad car happenings in Glendale. A year or two years ago, I went to Kinkos and Glendale and there happened to be four Mercedes G classes with fake. They all or the handicapped spots that they all had fake handicapped. Now, how do you know they were fake? I don't know they were fake, but I guarantee. But what are the odds? The odds of four handicapped people going to Kinkos at the same time with their G wagons is very low. That's right. So he wrote me, said, can I use your this clip that you posted two years ago for this thing I'm working on for Christmas? I say, absolutely. Go ahead. Headphones to watch. Yeah, you need headphones for this. Here it is, the 12 bad drivers of Glendale for your Christmas pleasure. There you go. That's that's any given day here in LA. Any given day. This will get to 12 nights of or 12 days of bad drivers. There you go. Very excited. Matt Farah, thank you for joining us in the holidays here. Thank you for letting me plug my car. Of course. Yes. Go to cars and bids right now and bid on it. It's it's the exciting time at cars and bids. Johnny, you and I and Matt, too, we're going to congregate at Baldwin Hills. We hope this weekend to do a little Festivus Audio show that it's on Patreon. And if you're a Patreon subscriber, you'll have that right now to go to and listen to. And you can hang around right now for the what we call the cool down lap where we're going to have another extra chat. And for those of you who are on YouTube, God bless. Happy holidays and we'll see you next week on Spikes Car Radio.