Wait Wait... Don't Tell Me!

We ask Peter about the guest who's most surprised him, plus other listener questions

21 min
Dec 16, 20254 months ago
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Summary

Peter Sagal answers listener questions in an AMA format, discussing his favorite songs, surprising guests like RZA from Wu-Tang Clan, how the show has evolved with new talent, his failed hobbies, his philosophy on running without distractions, and his unexpected writing credit on Dirty Dancing: Havana Nights.

Insights
  • Show longevity depends on fresh talent and diverse perspectives rather than relying on a single host's voice
  • Successful personal habits like running require removing distractions to allow creative thought and mental clarity
  • Hollywood screenplays often undergo dramatic transformations when acquired by studios for commercial purposes
  • Guest research from accessible sources like People Magazine can uncover surprising personal details even famous people forget they've shared
  • Consistency in one activity (running) can emerge from lack of talent in others, creating unexpected expertise
Trends
Media shows evolving through generational talent rotation rather than host-centric modelsRenewed interest in mindfulness practices like distraction-free running among media personalitiesK-pop music gaining mainstream cultural relevance and emotional resonance with diverse audiencesHollywood's pattern of acquiring intellectual property and stripping original creative intent for commercial viabilityPersonal brand authenticity valued when public figures reveal unexpected hobbies and interests
Topics
Podcast guest research and preparation strategiesShow evolution and talent management in long-running media propertiesRunning as mindfulness practice versus entertainment consumptionScreenwriting and Hollywood adaptation of original materialPersonal hobby experimentation and ADHD managementMusic preferences and emotional connection to songsGuest surprise and authenticity in interview formatsBaldness and personal appearance acceptanceCondiment culture and food nostalgiaCuban Revolution historical context in entertainment
Companies
NPR
Broadcaster of Wait Wait... Don't Tell Me! podcast series
William and Flora Hewlett Foundation
Episode sponsor investing in creative thinkers and problem solvers
People
Peter Sagal
Host of Wait Wait... Don't Tell Me! answering listener questions about show evolution and personal experiences
Emma Choi
Visual host conducting the AMA with Peter Sagal, noted as younger than the show itself
RZA
Wu-Tang Clan member whose unexpected HGTV enthusiasm surprised Peter during a guest interview
Tom Bodett
Original panelist on Wait Wait... Don't Tell Me! still appearing on the show
Doug Berman
Founder of Wait Wait... Don't Tell Me! who humorously criticized Peter's balding pattern
Jennifer Mills
Producer responsible for discovering and booking new talent for Wait Wait... Don't Tell Me!
Eleanor Bergstrom
Original writer of Dirty Dancing who is writing an upcoming sequel to the film
Quotes
"We spend our days, we spend all of our days pumping other people's thoughts into our heads... it's important to take a moment of the day and running is a good time to do it to just be alone with your thoughts."
Peter SagalRunning philosophy discussion
"If this show was just me, God forbid, it would have faded away long ago because I've only got so many things to say."
Peter SagalShow evolution question
"It's the great athletic pursuit for people with no athletic talent."
Peter SagalRunning discussion
"I realized he was right that I was fooling myself. It was time to embrace who I am."
Peter SagalBaldness acceptance story, circa 2003-2004
"They should know that I do believe that there is going to be an actual sequel to dirty dancing, written by the original writer of dirty dancing."
Peter SagalDirty Dancing discussion
Full Transcript
Support for NPR and the following message come from the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation. Investing in creative thinkers and problem solvers who help people, communities, and the planet flourish. More information is available at Hewlett.org. Hey, it's Emma Choi, Visual Host at Weight Weight. Here with Peter Seagull, hey, Peter, hello Emma, how are you? I'm good, I'm excited because we're here for another Peter AMA Ask Me Anything. Yes, not Peter American Medical Association, which I thought was the first time we did it, and I was excited for my late mother, but anyway, we've got it all cleared up, it's asked me anything, so that would be me, the me reference to let's go. Okay, so we asked you, our listeners, if you have any questions for Peter about anything, and we got a ton of them. Thanks to everyone who loved to voicemail or submitted a question through Instagram, some of them are about the shows, some are personal, and some of them are just kind of fun and weird, but it's going to be great. Fun and weird, okay, let's do it. So in no particular order, this is the first one. This question came through Instagram from at Polly Pocket Kid. Question is, if you had to listen to one song only for the rest of your life, what would it be? Wow, what's funny is that that is almost literally true right now, because my three-year-old, almost three-year-old loves wheels on the bus. Okay, that's a classic. It is a classic, and it's gotten to the point where he's very musical. He loves music of all kinds, and he likes to go to music class, and I'm always saying to him, hey, let's listen to some music, and I'm putting on all kinds of music, hoping that he'll bounce, and he'll yell, no, wheels on the bus. So I can say that I am both living that dream slash nightmare, and that the answer to the question is anything from wheels on the bus. I don't know, I've never thought about that. I have like a lot of favorite songs that I love, some famous, some obscure, but I can't imagine having to only listen to one for the rest of my life. It doesn't have to be these songpeters, just A song, what's A song? A song? Here's a song that I love that not many people know about, so I'm just going to say it so people go listen to it, even though I think that I've listened to it all the time, I would get sick of it. It's called A Little Bit of Everything by the Band Daws, DAW ES. Can I say one more thing? Yeah, sure. The song that right now I cannot get enough of, literally, if it comes on, I will stop and listen to the whole thing and often end up with tears in my eyes. You ready for this? Golden from K-Pop Demon Hunters. Everyone loves that song. It's a great song. It is like, to me it's the defying gravity of 2025. It is like a song for all the nerds and losers. Let's just say it was and I just think it's great. Well, I'm so happy for you. We can put that as a joint choice. It's a good choice. Okay, next question. Okay? Yes. This question comes from Brook Glass Clow, and the question is, which guest has surprised you in the most good or bad way? One of the great things about what we do in Emma, you should know this as well as anybody because you help us do it, is when we get something surprising, we always want to get something surprising from our guests. And sometimes that's as simple as hearing them express something about themselves that you didn't expect. I love it when very serious people show up and have a sense of humor. That makes me really happy because, you know, it's nice to know that. I'm trying to think of like the most surprising thing that anybody has got. Oh, I have to think of something Emma that you were absolutely key to, which was when not so much when they surprised us, but when we surprised them, and that's when we had Riza, if I'm not mistaken, it was Riza. Oh, I knew you were going to see Riza. This was truly one of the great moments in our history. And I think if I may be so bold in Emma's career, when we had Riza from Wutan clan, you know, musical genius, right? And we were asking about the usual things you might talk to Riza about, which is, you know, Staten Island and hip hop and so on and so forth. And I said to him, we heard, I mean, you are into so many things and so good at many of them, but we did hear you haven't. I will say an unexpected enthusiasm. Tell me if it's true for HGTV. You don't told you that. I have, I have a very talented producer whose job it is to research our guests. And until this very moment, I thought she was pranking me. No, that's, that's, that's, that's like me and my wife, baby, past time, you know? And I love it when like they, they say something about themselves that nobody knew because they didn't know that anybody else knew it. And that always makes me happy because it was on people's magazine. Ten things you don't know. That's my favorite source when I'm doing guest research. I don't people magazine. And I heard that I'm like, Riza, you've said this before. I have a feeling that when you're talking, when you're like somebody like Riza, who's as famous as he is and has been for as long as he has been, he's kind of forgotten what he's confessed, which nonetheless makes it just as delightful when we get him to confess it again. Next question. This one's from Edwin McGovern. What do you feel has changed the most about the show over the years? Thankfully not me. Well, although I have in my own way. No, you've grown. I've grown. I think I've grown. I've matured. The way it's changed quite seriously is the fact that we have wonderful newer people on the show, including yourself, Emma, who I can never get over, is actually younger than the show, which I know only a year, but still. And as well as other producers on the show and panelists on the show, who are so great at knowing things and seeing things and saying things that I simply can't know or see or say. And I honestly believe that if this show was just me, God forbid, it would have faded away long ago because I've only got so many things to say. But having these people come in, especially thanks to the producers, Truple Guests, and our producer, Jennifer Mills, who's always looking for a new talent for a panel, you know, it is great. It is a wonderful feeling for me when I'm on stage to look to my left and see some amazing new talented person who I don't know well yet, but I can be confident that is going to be surprising and weird and funny. And I am usually just as delighted and surprised by them as we hope our audiences. So that's the thing that's changed. As I think we've expanded without any, you know, this to our, you know, OG panelists, many of whom still are on the show, like Tom Bodeff, The Week we're Speaking, it's always great to like hear from these new people who are generally awesome. Yeah, I think so too. That's nice. All right, next question. Here's a question from Ashley VDL. What hobby or sport did you try but fail miserably at? Oh, God, we don't have enough time. I know. Let's get to say. You told me some of these stories. Because I am, I am what's the word both athletically and artistically limited. And also, I have terrible ADHD. So I will get very enthusiastic about something for a little while. And then, and then just like immediately give it up. Mike, Mike Garage is filled with like sports equipment for stuff. I didn't pursue. And gosh, things that I have tried over the years, but gave up on. I was a bread baker for a while. I haven't done that in a long time. I know that. Yeah. Was that during the pandemic? No, actually, I was a bread baker long before the pandemic. I was already failed at that by the time the pandemic came around. I've tried surfing. I've tried soccer. And, you know, I've tried golf. God help me. And none of those things have stuck running stuck. Running stuck. And it's interesting to me like of all the things I've tried in my whole life, especially in terms of athletics, which I was never very good at. But one thing I've been consistent at is running. And I'm not quite sure why I think it's because, you know, maybe there's a phrase actually, which I use in the book I wrote about running, which is like those who can't play sports run, those who can't run run long. And that's basically it. It's the great, it's the great athletic pursuit for people with no athletic talent. Yeah, that's true. One of the great things about running is you don't have to apply yourself mentally, which I might have also said, I have difficulty with. So you just get up and go. Okay. Well, speaking of running this question, keep your Instagram through Megan saves the day. When you run, do you listen to music, podcasts, or adjust your thoughts? Don't say, wait, wait, don't tell me. In the book I wrote about running, I will reference it again. I write rather passionately that I think people should not be listening to anything when they run, which more than anything else I said in the book, including my call for the sacrifice of first born to the God ball brought back a lot of pushback. People, people like, I have to listen to something. It's so boring. And my argument has been like, we spend our days, we spend all of our days pumping other people's thoughts into our heads. Somebody listening to this right now is doing that. And people believe me. I am not saying this from a position of like superiority. I do it all the time. And so I argue and generally believe that it's important to take a moment of the day and running is a good time to do it to just be alone with your thoughts. See what's been in there. See if anything comes out rather than constantly blocking the exits by pumping things in if you follow the metaphor. So that's what I argue. That's what I believe. And when I do that, I benefit from it in just the way that I recommend. My thoughts flow. I sometimes come up with interesting or creative ideas or perspectives or I just end up more relaxed than the other ways were. Do I still sometimes run with headphones and listen to the days news podcast or whatever? Yes. Because I am like everybody else. I'm sort of an addict for distraction. I mentioned the ADHD. But I will say that the times when I do put them away and run with just the air in my ears, it's always better. And maybe what I need to do is listen to this once it's edited and recorded and put in the podcast feed to remind myself of that. But of course, not listen to it while running. Yeah. If you're listening to this right now and you're running, turn it off or stop running. Do warn people. People a lot of times say to me they say, Peter, I read your book and I think you're right about I'm sorry to say that I do listen to things that I'm running. I listen to your show. And I say, well, you have a special dispensation. You were allowed to listen to that. Yeah, literally. Yes. Don't listen to anything except for it's our show. Listen to our show and get to like a subscribe. And if it's a long run and it extends beyond the show, listen to it again for the new ones. Exactly. Okay, Peter, this one came in through the voicemail inbox. This is butch from Phoenix, Arizona. Okay. If you had to catch yourself in a Hollywood movie about the history that Wade Wade doesn't tell me what actor working at Hollywood today when you cast as yourself. Thanks. Oh, it depends. It depends. Let me think. So if like these days, I should be played depending on like how I'm doing in life and in physical health, I would be played either by Stanley Tucci if I'm doing well or Jason Alexander, if not so much. Okay. That I'm all my life. Yeah, just choose bald men. Yeah, well, you know, I mean, it is true. They can do hair pieces. I think I think if you're going to do like the early days, I don't know who's like, I mean, like, you know, Josh Gad is too old now. Maybe. But I had this is actually kind of funny. I've been balding for pretty much my entire life since I turned like 19 or so. But for many years, I would bald just from this more than anybody wanted to know. I bald it like a lot of men do from the middle of the back of my head outward, meaning sort of like a monk's tuncher naturally grew. Yeah, it's about to say leaving. And this is the key thing, a little fringe of hair at the front. A little bit. And I know. And because of that, when I looked in the mirror, because I can't see the back of my head, I would see some hair, not a lot, but some. But the thing was to everybody else, I looked ridiculous because I bald, except for this little tough or two tuffs of hair. And your friend and mine, Doug Berman, used to make fun of me for this. He's our founder and, you know, benevolent. And has a great head of hair. And has a great head of hair. Urgent hair cut productions, he calls his company. And one day, he actually gave me as a present a college t-shirt. What's the college tuffs? And I have this very vivid memory. I know that we can completely off topic of the answer to the question. I have this very vivid memory. It was around 2003 or four, right? So I'm not that long into the show, but we'd been going on. And we were in Las Vegas. And I just, I realized he was right that I was fooling myself. It was time to embrace who I am. And I went to a barber and I said, I would like you to remove these tuffs, please. And just, you know, cut the hair back and just let me be finally admit what I am and who I am. And I remember the barber saying to me, it's going to be fine. He knew. He knew that it was a good thing for me to do. But an emotional thing for me to do. But getting back to the question, who would I cast myself? I don't know, man. I mean, if I was casting it, you know, Tom Cruise, maybe. No, I was going to say, I was going to say the same thing. I know. Thank you. I was going to ask you, Emma, but I'm just terrified of the answer. So I don't know. Well, I was going to say, you know, if we, I think we have the technology now to combine Jason Alexander into like one sort of yeah composite ethnic bald guy. Yeah. Exactly. Next question. Oh, actually, before I do this question, I just want to say a fun fact about you, which is my favorite fun fact about you. Okay. Which is that you were, you were the writer of dirty dancing to dirty dancing Havana night. Yes. The original writer, the original writer who was massively rewritten to make the cinematic masterpiece that we all know about, which is incredible. I think about this fact. I think once every two weeks. So this is a fact about you. That's more often than I think about it, but okay, go on. Embrug 98 wants to know where and when would dirty dancing 3B set if you wrote the script? Here's the funny thing. First of all, I can't answer the question because what everybody needs to know about that if they're interested is when I wrote the first draft of the movie that then became dirty dancing to Havana nights. I did not know I was doing it. I was writing what I mean to say is I was commissioned this long time ago by a Hollywood producer to write a movie and the movie we came up with again too long to get into was set in Cuba at the eve of the Cuban Revolution, which it turns out was like an incredibly interesting time and place that's never been adequately told and should be a movie that's not dirty dance. Oh, yeah, it was an absolute drama. It was centered as dirty dancing too eventually was on the experience of a 15 year old girl or late teenage who the model for the story was 15 at the time, but be that as it may a young American girl living in Havana who has a romance with a young Cuban guy who turns out to be involved in the revolution and my screenplay was based as best as I could in the actual events and personalities of the time in the amazing story of the transpire blah, blah, blah, blah, and then it was put on the shelf like most scripts are and then it was taken down and transformed into dirty dancing too basically is a money making opportunity because why they had the rights to dirty dancing too and the somebody said to the producer who would hired me to write that screenplay, hey, you've got that screenplay about the Cuban Revolution early 2000s everybody loves Cuban music. Let's take that screenplay take out all the history, all the politics, all the drama make it about dancing and romance and call it dirty dancing too and so that's what happened. Without, by the way, any of my, oh my god. Yeah, here's a weird thing though about that if people are interested. Like I said, every line of dialogue I wrote, almost every plot point absolutely removed, you know, in favor of stuff that made it dirty dancing too, but if you do see the movie and I don't know if I can recommend that, there is a scene toward the beginning in which the protagonist, the female lead, attends a class at a real place, it was called the ABC school, it was a private school for the children of Americans, British people in Canadians in Havana, English school, right? And there's a scene in which a teacher demonstrates with the lead for not paying attention or something. And that actor had that part in the movie because I wrote that part for myself when I was writing, when I was writing the movie, I was a young guy, I assumed I'd be on the set, right? And I had also had some acting experience, so I wrote myself a cameo and I described the character as I looked at the time, balding guy, early 30s, nerdy, and I assumed again, I'd be on the set hanging out with the director, you know, giving thoughts, and then I would play this role, well obviously I wasn't, but somebody got to play the role, so there is an actor in Puerto Rico, I assume, where the movie was filmed, who owes his, you know, his residual check to my ego, but to- Well, that's who would play you in the movie. That's a good idea, I never thought of that, I should look him up. But the- There you go. But the answer to the question is, I don't know because I didn't mean to write dirty dancing too, it wasn't my idea, but they should know that I do believe that there is going to be an actual sequel to dirty dancing, written by the original writer of dirty dancing, a woman named Eleanor Bergstrom, who wrote that movie about her own experience as a young woman in the 60s going to one of these Jewish summer camps, summer resorts. So it might be coming your way and you'll find out. That's amazing. Isn't it amazing? Wow, what a story. It's amazing. Okay, awesome. Well, I have one last question for today. Yes. It's from Dan the fancy man. Dan the fancy man. What's your favorite underdog condiment? One that never receives top billing, but should. Wow. An underdog condiment. Great question. Oh, here it is, ready? Harissa. Harissa. Oh, interesting. You know, when I was in- I do. I got to live in France very briefly in the 90s, I got this writing fellowship in the South of France, it was glorious, it was amazing. And I wasn't wealthy. I was a starving writer who got to go live in France. So we ate street food a lot. And one of the best things to get was a Murghez sandwich, sandwich, Murghez, a vec harissa, which was in the South of France, which is a huge North African influence, especially in like, street food. And it's this deliciously spicy paste from, I believe, Algeria, it's certainly North African. That is just amazing and tasty. And in the 30 years since I was there, maybe more, I have looked around in America for a brand of harissa that may be even close to what I enjoyed. And I've come to realize that it wasn't specifically the may, not have been specifically the brand of harissa. They were using it, those street stalls, but the fact that I was in the South of France that actually made it taste that good. But yeah, there you go. I had an answer for that one. Harissa, everybody, if you can find good stuff, it's great. Well, if you find something good, send Peter's way. Please, there's a good harissa out there. If there's a good harissa out there, I want to try it. Yes, you do. Okay, cool. Well, that's all the time we have for this bonus episode. But like I said, we had a bunch of questions for you. So we're going to have you answer some more of them in our next bonus episode in two weeks. Oh, I can't wait. It'll be Peter AMA part two. Yeah, it'll be awesome. Just make sure you're signed up for Weight Weight Plus to hear it. But for now, thank you for your questions, everyone. And Peter, thank you for hanging out. Oh, it's always a pleasure, Emma. I really miss. Well, thanks Peter. I'm Emma Choi. And thanks for listening to and supporting Weight Weight Don't Tell Me From NPR. Support for NPR and the following message come from the William and Flora Hulett Foundation. 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