Draft Draft: Drafting All 32 Teams' Draft Classes, Aaron Rodgers Tendered (?!), and Is Tartar Sauce Just Fancy Mayo?

So it's mayo, pickles and spices mixed with chopped corn, corn of chance, corn of shown gherkins, capers, tarragon, dill, parsley and chives. Huh, okay. Anyway, welcome to the ringer NFL draft show soon to be the ringer fantasy football show. My name is Danny Heiferts. I'm joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Warholbeck and we're going to go through all 32 drafts. We're going to draft the draft. I can't believe no one's done this before. We're going to draft which draft classes were the best. That's right. Pretty simple, right? Draft draft. I thought of that. We don't know if no one's ever thought of that, but if you did. You can say stuff. You can say whatever you want, Craig. Guy beats an ostrich in an eating contest. He's the eating champion of the world, apparently. He just grabbed the closest. Ten plates of spaghetti. Like nothing. Unbelievable. Yeah, we're going to draft draft to where it's going to go through. Adikius draft grades are at NFL draft. The ringer.com and Craig and I are going to tear them to shreds. But first, a couple pieces of news. What? First of all, the Steelers have. I can't. I just saw this post from Adam Schefter and I'm just going to read it for me. I don't I had never heard of this. Schefter posted this morning sources. The Steelers placed the rare right of first refusal tender on Aaron Rodgers, meaning that he can accept a 10 percent raise off last year's salary, which would pay him about $15 million this season. As another condition of the tender, Rogers would only be able to sign with the Steelers once training camp begins and quote. I didn't know what this was. I've never heard of this before. And so they're basically just saying you can get a 10 percent raise if you sign with the Steelers and that's it. I had never heard of this. Apparently they can do this with any free agent that doesn't sign after the draft. I've never heard of this. You have to wait until after the draft to do it. Apparently. I think this is bizarre. I guess what it means in practice is basically they're going to be like, Aaron, you can have a 15 percent raise or you can retire or you can go and play for someone else. And if you sign a contract elsewhere, we'll match it. It's kind of weird to do this. The key element is it gets him in the building. Is that it? Theory. Right. Well, is it a 10 or 15 percent? I thought his tweet says 10. Oh, yeah. Sorry, it's 15 million, but I wrote down 50 percent raises. 10 percent raise, which is about $15 million. Yeah, correct. So is this obviously it's not embarrassing that Aaron Rogers is still not with the team? Was this you know what? Lay off. All right. Fuck. Everything is embarrassing. I'm hanging up on them. That wasn't embarrassing. There's nothing embarrassing about your first round pick hanging up and being drafted with someone else. What do you want me to say? What do you want me to say? Are we in the perfect situation right now? No, we're not. OK, I'm trying to get excited about Jeremy Bernard. He's kind of all I have right now. I'm hanging on my thread here. OK, yeah, it's messy. We have Drew Aller. We have Aaron Rogers, maybe. That's kind of in Will Howard and Craig. Sorry, sorry to do this. I was I was instructed to do this by our fans. Not this isn't my choice. But did you realize that the draft pick that you guys received in exchange for superstar receiver, one of the best receivers in the NFL, really, George Pickens turned into Drew Aller? Well, well, check back in in five years. Yeah, when he's won three rings. Sure. Fair enough. All pro. The XFL championship, the UFL championship. You know what he's going to do for the Birmingham stallions? The Birmingham stallions are going to have an incredible time at your out once Mike McCarthy gets his paws on Drew Aller. It's guys the limit. That guy works so well. I'm sorry. For some reason. Look, I'm making my paws on you. Drew Aller can do things that no other quarterback in this draft can do. Complimentary and derogatory. Sure. But Mike McCarthy is somebody who I think can fix him. I want to play twice. Remember the hostage? You remember that show? I forget what it was called. It was basically this guy could detect people lying, like really instinctively and easily. Oh, lie to me. Yeah, with Mr. the guy who gets the bleeding guy in a reservoir dogs, what's his name? Tim Ross. Yes. Yeah, yeah, exactly. He basically is like this genius who can tell when people are lying. Craig, I could tell you were lying right there. I I wish we could clip that 10 second sentence. Craig just said he's like, I drew hours, going to be a great quarterback. And Mike McCarthy will fix him and play someone six months ago. Craig starts talking in the most passive voice. He is someone who I believe could help draw or succeed. Here's what I'll say. Here's a good craigs head just out of frame. Here's what I'll say before we move on. I think Drew Aller has the highest ceiling and floor. Sorry, the highest ceiling in the lowest floor of any quarterback taking this draft. And for that, the truth, he's telling the truth. And for that, I'm interested. All right. Yeah, if Drew Aller learns to read progressions and throw accurate throws, then I actually know I actually do agree. Like he his pocket management is bizarre. If he learned if he sat at the bench for two years, Drew Aller in the if he came out of the ball, I mean, Justin Herbert, no one knew he could progress as quickly as he could when he came. Well, yeah, Aller is like a baby deer back there and his feet are all over the place. However, his arm talent is ridiculous. And based on look, I'm not going to lie and pretend I watched every Penn State game for the last two years. But from what I've been reading since they've drew, we have to draw hours that like he's actually not that bad at like once the ball is snapped, his ability to progress and go through three or four water stevers is not terrible. His footwork is just a mess, but his arm and his ability to move through progressions is not bad. Yeah. Yeah. The main that's the main thing I noticed with him is basically if things are on time and if he plays in rhythm, he's like really exciting. But the problem is when he starts to move around or get forced off a spot, his footwork gets all messed up and then he can't. Nobody taught him. He can't complete a pass. But that's something that is coachable. He'll have Aaron Rodgers and Mike McCarthy, not the worst two people. Aaron Rodgers is going to be so attentive to him during practices. You know what? Well, he liked to. Well, Aaron Rodgers was a few stiff towards Will Howard, apparently, according to Will Howard. Apparently, apparently, who had nothing to lose by saying that or nothing. Speaking of Ricky Kordemax taken, I don't know how we're still talking about the same pick, but the Rams, the latest update in the Tye Simpson thing where the Rams took Tye Simpson with the 13th pick. And then again, if you missed it, Sean McVeigh basically. Now the story is that so Matthew Stafford was so angry, Sean McVeigh, for taking Tye Simpson, that Sean McVeigh decided to act like he wasn't that excited about Tye Simpson, which shockingly everybody noticed. And then it was like, wow, Sean McVeigh hates Tye Simpson, which they then had to snap, snap. Be like, actually, I love Tye Simpson. I'm so excited for Tye Simpson. Sean McVeigh kept saying on the fifth round of the draft live, which was also weird. So now the other one of the other reasons we were so confused by the Tye Simpson story was in addition to Sean McVeigh acting like he was not into Tye Simpson. Tye Simpson was like, I've never met Sean McVeigh, which was so weird. He was like, we had a call and then people were like, well, that's normal. The Rams never meet their prospects. We're like, OK, so apparently Tye Simpson is like, I lied because the Rams told me to lie. I have met Sean McVeigh. Did you guys see like a cheating couple? Sean McVeigh is cheating on Matt Stafford with Tye Simpson. He's sneaking around. They need to get their story straight. They needed to come up with a better plan for this. I feel like they really botched it. The whole thing is like this massive, massive story. It basically got away from us. It's like the stri-san effect. They tried so hard to make it into nothing that it turned into something way bigger. Also like them concocting this very complicated coverup to hide the fact that the Rams are interested in Tye Simpson, because I guess if Sean McVeigh, if people find out Sean McVeigh likes a quarterback, everybody will immediately pounce. Is that right? Like would Tye Simpson have gone like eighth if people knew that he met with the Rams? It's it's kind of it's just the whole world's it's important to remember that. And then Daniel Jeremiah goes it was talking to Greg Rosenthal. And Daniel Jeremiah is like, I don't think the Cardinals would have taken Tye Simpson in the second round. All the reporting now is like because this is the opposite of what usually happens. It's like take Dijon Shribbling from the 49ers, for instance. Like we all talked. We all bemoaned. The wide receiver. Sorry, the receiver that the 49ers took at 33. Give positions or colleges. He just assumes everybody listening is trying to get much tape. I just I don't need to. Craig got me like V by Miss Tony Hill. You're Tony Hill. Anyway, basically, we all freaked out because he got taken at 33. And then all the reporting is now is like, oh, well, this team liked him. This team liked him. He's probably going to go off the board. You guys don't know shit. You don't know where he's going to go, even though the consensus board or whatever that no one really expected him go nearly that high. It's the opposite with Tye Simpson's like now they took Tye Simpson at 13. And all the reporting is like, I don't know if any teams liked him. There was some I think there was some speculation that maybe the Cardinals didn't even have him atop their board. Like Carson Beck was their top guy. I think people want to throw McVander the bus. I think they're happy to do it. I will say, though, I think other teams that are jealous. I will say I just want to say so third. So what's Tyson's and said after the Rams took him initially was basically that he had only met with some Rams scouts. He had never met Sean McVay like you talked to him on the phone briefly, but the Rams scouts very brief. That's just any of this thing anymore. You know, it's so slowly to the top. These guys get so mad when you don't take them at the word. And then you're like, oh, yeah, right. People are lying constantly and then you get mad at us. But it's like so Tye Simpson said. Now his update is quote quoting Tye Simpson. We try to keep this under wraps as long as we could. It was something to where I knew they were interested, but I knew they wanted to make it private. Didn't want people to know they were interested. So I had some secret meetings with Coach McVay, and I was trying to be on script and do what everybody told me and not tell anybody. Joe Montana, like what are we doing here? He better be incredible. I it is so funny to think that Stefan's got to be more pissed now than ever. I know. It's like, what the fuck? You guys are meeting at an hourly hotel tiptoeing around the house on the phone. They're using burners and shit. It's like no one can know we're taking justice and at 13. Sean, why'd you turn off your locate me? Huh? Where were you all after the funniest part about it? I'll think. Oh, I talked to your best friend. Guess what? He said you weren't with him. I don't know what the fuck's going on. What's funny? He's like, he's like, Sean, keep saying that the best golf courses are in Alabama. I guess. They'd Stafford and his wife went to Georgia. They're probably very aware of how bad Ty Simpson was. Like all these guys follow college before too. And it's like Ty Simpson couldn't beat out Jalen Milrow. He played seven good games and he's going to functionally play. 15 starts over like a seven year period, probably unless he plays. It's so funny. If this were Washington two years ago with Jane Daniels or New England with Drake May two years ago, I would get it where they're like, man, these are really hot commodities. We have a very high leverage pick. People could come in ahead of us. I get it. But like Ty Simpson at 13, going through this rigmarole is just very puzzling to me. And I guess we have to trust MacVey and less need that they know what they know and that this guy's got the goods. But the whole thing is ridiculous. I think they looked at it this simply. The Falcons pick was a robbery. The Rams getting a Falcons the 13th overall pick in the draft. It was I think they looked at it like it's free. It's good. It's not though. I'm not saying that's the right analysis. I think the Rams looked at it like we kind of stole this pick. Let's just make a court. Let's just get a quarterback and set up the next 10 years. And we have to worry about this. We don't have to freak out every time that staffer twinges his back, whether the season's over. But it only works if they really truly believe this guy is not just solid, but great and has the potential to be great. So that's the question, because I do think the part of this that's getting washed away by all the absolute weirdness with which the Rams handled this is getting a quarterback is smart, man. Like getting a quarterback when you're not desperate for quarterback is a good idea. And again, the Packers are probably happy they took you in love. I get I went on cigar thoughts with our friend. The Rams got caught at a Coldplay concert. That's what happened here. What are we talking about? Where's they they they realized the jig was up and then they freaked out. If they just would have acted normally, this wouldn't be as big of a story. They should have hired a crisis PR firm like someone did recently. That worked out great. Shrager made an interesting point on ESPN, where he was like, if the Rams had just traded the 13th pick for Trent McDuffie and then selected Ty Simpson with the 29th pick, no one would probably say anything about this. No one would give a shit. It's kind of like we were all like the Lions took Jumeir Gibbs in the first round, but then they took Brian Branch in the second. And it's like, well, they didn't Brian Branch and Gibbs know what is that a word. So I honestly, the way I compare this to Jackson Bevin's show, Cigar Thoughts, which is a great show. And I compared it sometimes. J-Bone. J-Bone, you can line up and you have a good process for a shot. And then you screw up the swing. And I think that like it's good process to take a quarterback. I think the swing itself, like the guy, the quarterback, kind of a weird one. Sometimes you skull it and it actually just lands on the green and it's fine. And I think that like the truth is he's probably going to be the quarterback for the Rams for a decade. Like they probably made their bet and they're going to roll with it. Maybe, maybe. Every time I go watch Ruben Bain light up and rush the passer this year, I'm going to be like, man, imagine if he was on the fucking Rams. Like what could they be doing right now? If the or Mackay Lemon, who like Pukas having a complicated offseason and Devonte Adams is old and that's all they have. Mackay Lemon probably would have helped in the Super Bowl run in LA. And I got to say, I think if the Rams do not win the Super Bowl, this season will be looked at as a failure because of the Tysimpson thing. And people are going to convince themselves that if they had Ruben Bain or if they had Mackay Lemon or if they had somebody else, they could have won the Super Bowl. Yeah, I mean, it's hard to disagree. I mean, it really reminds you so much of the Packers taking Jordan Love because it both worked out. And also if they had taken a cornerback that year, they might have won a Super Bowl with Aaron Rodgers, but also does Aaron Rodgers win two MVPs in a row if they don't take love? So I don't know. We'll see. Sliding doors. OK, with that. The difference there is that Aaron Rodgers was playing like shit for like the two years prior to that. And then he got a fire lit under his ass and one, two MVPs. Matt Stafford literally just won the MVP. Oh, I think that's the rating MVP. That's what the Steelers are doing now. That's why they brought an hour. Oh, now Rodgers MVP loaded. That's why he's too busy training to sign the contract. The tender, you know? Yeah. So with that said, I wonder the draft draft. And again, that's what it's draft draft. It's what it sounds like. We're going to draft who had the best draft. And DK, age before beauty, you're going to get to go first. All right. And I go second. You're going to get the second pick. I'll get the third pick and like the NFL, we're not doing the snake draft style. We're doing a yeah, that's just in order. So DK, no pressure here, but you get to draft overall. Yeah. Who had the best draft? Who won the draft? I think the Browns did. Wow. Kind of crazy. Kind of crazy. So let's just go through their draft class real quick here. The quick 12 people or whatever. I know. Well, sorry, I'll go. I'll try to go fast. Basically at the top, they played it and let's take the name of the team away. Let's take the GM away. Let's take away the fact that he was making perspective head coaches take written oral exams, all that stuff, written and oral. I guess the written oral would be completely opposite. Anyway, they, they did a really smart thing here. They traded down, they got two extra picks to trade like three spots back with the chiefs, and then they still got the top tackle, which was their top ranked guy clearly and probably their top ranked need, that position need. And they got Spencer Fano. I love that pick for them. I think he's going to come in, start for them right away, help to rebuild this offensive line. They got Casey Concepcion with the second of two first round picks. Um, and then they came back and got him an incredible value with Denzel Boston in the second round. We all thought he was going to be a first rounder. Emmanuel McNeil-Loren late in the second round. We all thought he was going to be a first rounder. If you just look at this draft class, I mean, just those four guys in, in alone kind of like help you win. Also add in the fact that they traded, I believe a fifth round pick for Titus Howard, who's probably going to start for them on the offensive line this year. Um, and which ended up being free because of the Spencer Fano trade. They basically ended up kind of getting Titus Howard for free. So they did, did like a little two for one there. And then also just throw this out there. Taylor Green kind of an interesting pick way late in the sixth round. He is a quarterback at Arkansas. Thank you, Craig. Um, I, I'm just never going to say names or I'm going to say, you don't need to. I'm here for you. I won't create the whisper it though from no one quarterback, Arkansas. That's actually pretty good. I should record them after we tape. And so, and then Cam actually puts it in just for the listener. Just a little thought, like a little bubble over my head. That's actually interesting. It's really funny. Um, anyway, one of the most athletic quarterbacks we've ever seen and has some developmental upside there. So I don't know, just looking at this team's draft, love what they did. The Browns did about as good a job as you could do for a team that's going to be starting to Sean Watson and Shador Sanders until Gabriel this year. Like they, they took a lot, they needed a lot and they let, they filled in a lot of premium holes. They got two tackles in the first pause. I was wondering if you were going to do it. Everyone's like, I think that was DK's first pause. Premium hole. They filled in some premium holes right there. Yeah, you know, high class holes. Yeah. Anyway, I have to, I think I actually, I think I legally have to stop now. Somebody else can talk. Uh, I, I think that the Cleveland is just a place where you're like hoping a quarterback can survive. And I think now Cleveland might be a place maybe that a quarterback can thrive. And they're still Cleveland. High fifth is the best that I'm marketing. God. You don't think premium holes was the better pitch? Premium holes, good pitch. They filled premium holes. That's going on the ticket. All right. So there you are. There you're, there you're winner. Okay, Craig. The first one off the board, Craig, then who's your, the second pick in the draft draft, Craig, who's your next best draft class? Um, I'm going to take the Giants. Because I was between them and the Raiders stole him from high fits. I think you could, I think the Giants, the Raiders and the Browns are my top three teams. Um, obviously R Val Ries, who many people thought was the best player in the draft, falling to five is awesome. And now the Giants defensive line is like borderline has the potential to be legendary. Um, also getting a tackle to fill in, like just shoring up both lines. And I'm factoring in that this team thinks they have their quarterback. This team thinks they have their longterm coach. You have like a fantastic wide receiver. This team has a lot of the pieces that you want and to get the best player in the draft and more protection for your quarterback. I just feel like the vibes are really high. And I know everyone's saying that they're this year's Patriots. Um, but it's hard not to come out of this draft thinking that the Giants did a very professional job. Sick. Hi. He's just like tight. Like they didn't even go sexy. They're like, nope, like we're not taking a wide receiver. Like we're going to take fucking like an edge in a fucking tackle. Hi Fitz, do you think in your heart of hearts, do you think in your heart of hearts that if R Val Ries had gone number, what was it? Number three to the Cardinals and Jeremiah Love was on the board at number five. Do you think the Giants would have taken Jeremiah Love? Yes. Talk about sliding doors moment here. Cause I think I do the fact that our Val Ries fell is, is monumentally important for the Giants. And look, the other part of this is Ries can play multiple positions. They're starting them out at linebacker. I think he can be a situational pass. So he's really good at that. Um, so you're helping out two different spots. Maui Noah potential to help out multiple spots too. They might start a Mac guard. I think he has long-term upside to the right tackle. I think Mary-Know is going to play right guard to start, which I don't mind because will you allow you to go, but at the point is he can play tackle. So if Jermaine Eleanor gets hurt or Andrew Thomas gets hurt, who's, you know what I mean? Then maybe Eleanor plays left tackle. Like, you know what I mean? Or, or worse case, everyone's healthy. And Francis, Mary-Know, it gets a couple of years in the NFL and then it goes to play tackle. That's similar to what Carolina did where they took a left tackle and Monroe Freeling and they're like, well, they have guys. Good. Just because you have two tackles doesn't mean this is what I was saying about doing on defense, which is what they ended up doing, which is. I don't care if you have two tackles, three tackles is fine. You usually need a third tackle. Like having a transition plan is good. Also, the Giants getting Colton Hood at a quarterback at a tennis scene the second round was amazing. He could have gone in the first round. Nobody would have blinked if he had been like the 21st pick in the draft or if Dallas had taken Colton Hood. No one would have blinked. There's an awesome story. Shout out to Tyler Brook who showed this to me where when Colton Hood was at Auburn, the receivers and defensive backs agreed to meet one on non-practice day to work out. None of the defensive backs showed up. Just Colton Hood. He was the only quarterback and then eight wide receivers from Auburn showed up. And so they would line up in drills. Colton Hood took every rep. So it was the receiver would go Colton Hood, second receiver goes still Colton Hood. And they did this for like 40 minutes and they didn't take a five minute break because he was going to throw up and then he went back and he'd start doing it. And it's like, he's a psycho. That's what I want. He's the second pick and they traded up for Malachi Fields to start a receiver from Notre Dame. The Giants first four picks are probably going to start. And like that's you need that. So I'm thrilled with the Giants draft. Yeah. Really good job. With that said, my next pick, I'm going to take the Raiders here. I'm not going to lie. I think the Raiders should have been the first pick. I think the Raiders won the draft because I like that the Browns supported a hypothetical quarterback. I liked that the Giants got the best pick in the drafts in Arville, Reese, and supported their real quarterback. But you could argue that the only pick that really will matter from this year's draft class in 20 years is the Raiders guffinato Mendoza. They got it. That's also hypothetical. Is it not? Well, they got it. It's a real player. It just depends if he's good or not. Right. He's a real boy. They got a quarterback. They got a court. He's a real man. I'm a real boy. Wait, what is that? Trapado? No. Oh, that's no. Pinocchio and Trapado. Yeah. Anyway, that's from Shrek. Well, no, it is. It is. Right. It's Pinocchio. Yeah. But you remind me of the gingerbread. Not the gumdrop buttons. He's married to. I forget how important Shrek is to your guys. It's generation. One of the big dividing lines. It's like a punch, Bob. I don't even have like I've seen Shrek a thousand times, but I don't have a lot of memories of sitting down and watching it. And yet every line from that movie is seared into my brain. Dude, the most relatable part of I Am Legend is when Will Smith knows every line to Shrek. I know. I know all the songs on the soundtrack. Like I don't know. I just it's like they downloaded that movie into my brain. I know. No, no, no, no, no. I don't give a damn about reputation. The amount of times it's just like I've said this one Shrek is like, you haven't played the dragon. It's like it's on my list. It's great. Anyway, good, good flick. Yeah, good movie. No pause. But I think Fernando Mendoza loves Shrek. I bet he does every word for Fernando. If you ever come on a show, we'll quit you on Shrek. But the Raiders, they also just made a bunch of picks, which I like. I think Mike Washington Jr. is a pretty good compliment to Ash and Gentie. They got trained in Stooges as an old safety. But the Raiders just look, they got all these other players. You're not on the play. Yeah. I want her back from Tennessee, who if he plays, we don't know what the hell's wrong with them, but like a top 10 guy. But overall, it's like they got the French as quarterback. It's the only one in the draft. I'm like that you win the draft. Like nothing. How often do we say during the season, the quarterback's the only thing that fucking matters? The only quibble with the draft that I've seen people make it. And I think there's some validity to it as they didn't get a receiver. I really wanted them to take Elijah Serrat and pair him back up with Mendoza since they had such a great chemistry. But overall, they did get a six round receiver, Malik Benson. But overall, they didn't use any high end draft capital to upgrade the receiver position. But maybe they still believe in Bash. Maybe there's something else coming to trade or whatever. But that would be the only quibble I have with this class. I otherwise really liked it. I know the trade on Stukes is good. What we're going to say. The Raiders, what receivers are? I mean, it's Jack Bash, it's Trey Tucker and it's Jalen Naylor. Don't you? Brock Bowers. But Brock Bowers is the number one there, which is I think I mean, he's awesome. So also like Stefan Diggs is still a free agent and like I wouldn't be shocked. Good call. Like, yeah, yeah, things could just sign with the Raiders. And you're like, oh, yeah. You think we need one more? OK, that's that's great for my generation. Ocean's 11 all time. All right, am I back up? Yeah, you're up. Number. Shoot. I think those are that's easy. The Browns are dying to Raiders. Draft starts now. Draft starts now. Oh boy, oh boy. So it comes down to a couple different classes here. I'm going to go with. Go with the Cowboys. The Cowboys. And it was close to me with a couple of other ones, as I said. But I think just in terms of instant impact, guys starting day one and making this a very competitive team and hopefully remaking the defense, I think they did an awesome job. Caleb Downs in the first round, that's a safety from Ohio State. I did it. Nice. Very good. They trade up one spot to grab him. One guy you probably didn't need to do that. They went and they got Malachi Lawrence. Defensive end. UCF. And he comes in, he's immediately going to provide explosive speed and juice off the edge. They needed some guys that are just going to kind of wreak havoc and force guys like flush guys from the pocket, create sacks, things like that. And then Jay Sean Barham, the edge player slash linebacker out of Michigan, who just plays with his hair on fire. He helps bring, you know, like an intensity rate raising type of personality to the field. He just wants to hit everybody. He plays with just a ton of energy and intensity. I really like those three. Jay Sean, Boram, edge rusher from Michigan is actually going to play linebacker. That one. Yes. I do think that was I'm actually upset about that pick, because the Cowboys, they I mean, the Cowboys said everything they needed. Like they needed desperately needed an edge rusher linebacker to safety. They got the best safety in the draft, probably. Barham is like this edge rusher that he also played linebacker for Michigan in like 2024 and like it's kind of like our velvety. So we keep talking about this. If the same way he's like a mini Reese. Yeah. In the same way that a running back can line up up in this slot, useless, absolutely useless, but a receiver that can take some running back snaps like Debo Samuel or even JSN lining up at running back in the playoffs. Very valuable. A defensive end you can cover. OK, a linebacker that dropped back a couple of times a game. Sure. Sick. But a linebacker who can credibly pass rush at times. That's actually valuable. And the fact that like Barham is going to be that for Dallas is really annoying. I also have to say. Official statements since the Giants did take Francis Mary Noah at 10 instead of Caleb Downs opening the door for Dallas to have Caleb Downs for 15 years. Was I concerned when the Giants receiver Malik neighbors on a live stream with Bleach Report freaked out that Dallas was going to get Caleb Downs and was so angry that the Giants took Mary Noah and Malik neighbors. And Malik neighbors are so upset they took Carville Reese instead of Caleb Downs. No, I was not concerned at all. He's wrong. There's nothing. Don't look into it. What was not a problem. Basically, like Caleb Downs has a position. His I think he thought that our Velaryce was his two things he thought our neighbors thought our Various was going to be a pass rush. Or he's like, that's what our Abdul Carter does. And they're like, no, we're going to play that will linebacker. And again, we'll they have all these names will just means the weak side. Doesn't matter. But the larger point is Malik Davis was like, holy shit, he's going to cover me. That sucks. Like, I think it was just like, wait, I have to face. He's been talking about good Caleb Downs is three months. And he's like, wait, I have to play him twice a year instead of him being on our team. That sucks ass. Yeah, I also just think I feel like players' opinions of the draft is honestly closer to like a fans than it is an expert. Hundred percent. Like he's probably just like, fuck, Caleb Downs, dude, he's so sick. Ohio State, he was awesome last year. Like they might go that far. Yeah, it's it's so true where it's it's so funny where it's so I have heard NFL players give like very eloquent. Descriptions of like fans and like fantasy and be like, look, man, fantasy or like all these fans, you don't know what's going on in our building and our locker room and how could you dane to judge us? We put our bodies on the line. And then in the next breath, see a TV screen with like, man, to rant warriors, that shit doesn't work. They got to break up like they got to trade. Drey Ma like the same. It's like, we're all just fans. Like most of the time when there's a player interviewing somebody's like, who's like the hardest guy you've ever had to defend? Or give me like kind of like the underrated best player. And they're just like, man, Kevin Durant was a bucket, man. You're like, yep. OK. There was Craig, there was this is like goes a little bit the other way because it was a college player asking a college player about a pro team. But I can't remember who it was. It might have been our Valorice. Typhus, you remember this? Oh, well, he couldn't name any John. They asked him who you're who you're looking for it to playing with. And he was like, I don't know. He didn't name any. It took him like three minutes to get to Jackson's art. It's fine. He doesn't need to know. It's not his job to know. I'll try to make fun of me for that. I was like, let me tell you, brother, what I am so thrilled. There's a giant that does not know about the last 10 years. Yeah, it's better to come in. Totally ignorant to everything that's happened. The other thing I will add real quick before we end and like wrap up the Cowboys part is that you could probably add like a quarter of Quinn and Williams to this because he was traded for a 2026 second. That pick turned into Derek Moore for the Lions. And a 2027 first. So the first is doing a lot more heavy lifting next year, obviously. But you get Quinn and Williams in the building partly because of this. So yeah, defensive tackle from Alabama that was on the Jetson traded. The Cowboys defense quietly defensive tackles are Quinn and Williams and Kenny Clark and the Edge rushers and Everchon Gary and Malachi Lawrence. And they have Demario overshown and this bar on kid from Michigan at linebacker and up tailed down to defense. And it's like it's Dallas and the Bengals are just kind of racing to see which one can actually build a defense first on their pretty sick offense. And they're just like mirror images in each conference and like, dude, Dallas. Everyone's just being like, oh, the Eagles are falling down. The Giants. I'm like, dude, Dallas could be good. I agree. They also have a new defensive coordinator, Christian Parker. Yeah, it's the Eagles. I am scared of Dallas. Yeah, the net. Interesting. So Craig, you have the next pick here. So boys, we've made it through a grand total four picks. So we can speed up. I'm going to take the Bucks and it's just because of Reuben Bain. And I really feel like pound for pound, he was maybe the best player in college football last year. And you just got him at the 15th pick and him walking down that hallway, grabbing the hat, cocking his fist and being like, let's fucking go. This guy is going to be a Hall of Famer. He's going to be sick immediately. And I like that there's a couple of other guys that that, you know, like Ted Hurst, Keontes, Scott, the corner out of Miami, they got. I do like a few other things that they did. Josiah Trotter. Yeah. Josiah Trotter, the linebacker. But just Reuben Bain at 15 after everything that went on with him, he fell a little bit and just like the motivation that he brought to the stage and them getting maybe the best player in college football last year at 15th. I just think it's sick and the Bucks always do a great job on defense. For better or for worse, DK, I feel like every single the first four picks the Bucks made, they all just jump off the screen when you watch them. Yeah. Yeah. They're all like identity guys. You know what I mean? Toughness, physicality, coming down hill and, and, you know, hitting and playing a certain style and a certain energy. And I am excited to watch this Buccaneers defense. They needed some guys like this, I feel like, because they're, you know, what's his name, the linebacker from Nebraska. Lovante David. Yeah. Lovante David. The Bucks are old defensive. They were kind of getting to, yeah, they're like at an inflection point where they're like, we need some new, some new blood in here and kind of get some new energy and have that. And I think this class could absolutely do that. Most Super Bowl teams, even when you win, look completely different four years later. The Buccaneers held on to the core of the team that won the Super Bowl longer than any team I can remember. And like Lovante David retired, Mike Evans is gone. And like, I think they plugged it, but I totally agree. The NSC South was slipping away from Tampa Bay. And now after this draft, I actually think they can get back to the top and stay ahead of the Saints in Carolina. I'm not so worried about Atlanta. Next pick here, I think that was the right pick, Craig. I'm between two teams. I'm going to take. I'm going to take the Jets because I think the sheer volume of it, at any given pick, you can quibble. Like, is Kenyon Sadee get the 16th pick or whatever reach? But if you remove where they took them, if you just look at the draft, it's good. I totally agree. It's like, it's funny too, because, you know, before the draft, I know I said the Jets, Vlads weren't good, but I said, I'd be good after the draft. It's like, look, I would have taken Orville Rees over David Bailey. But when you look at the Jets draft, they have David Bailey. At Russia from Texas Tech. They have Kenyon Sadee, the Titan from Oregon. They have Omar and I love the Indiana guys, Omar Cooper, receiver and D'Angelo Ponds, the cornerback. There are those two are tone setting guys. I think Omar Cooper is a tone set on offense the way he runs the ball. I think I love D'Angelo Ponds, the way he plays football. We'll ignore Kate Clubnick. We'll just ignore that. Yeah, the Jets fans, that one's sad where they're like, we choose to ignore it. Yeah. I yeah, the Kate Clubnick. He got drafted. I feel like Kate Clubnick was was in jeopardy of not getting drafted. He did the Kate Clubnick, Garrett Nussmeyer, you keep that in mind with the way too early mock drafts. Like at one point, they were both considered maybe number one picks. And now they ended up being fifth and seventh rounders. I don't think he's Kate Clubnick's anything but like a, you know, just he'll he'll make some random start December 1st. And it'll be trivia. But I think the Jets, they just it's like Cleveland. I like calling someone trivia as an insult. That's good. It's just you're going to be trivia like name a quarterback. Kate Club, he'll be really good. He'll be a really good answer in a maculate grip. Yeah. Name that one quarterback who started one game in 2026 and beat the Patriots. My God. Yeah. But I think this is a great one. I'm excited to see what happens with David Bailey and his weird aesthetic where he wears his jersey down to his quads, but his pants are above his knees and doesn't wear gloves and we'll see. But I think the Jets, I mean, they just took so many players high that it's a good class. Yeah, I agree with that. Yeah, I don't disagree either. This this next pick for me is coming down to two teams. I can't decide which one I like more. I'm ultimately just going to go with what I decided to do on Sunday and give they gave the Panthers a slightly hard grade. I'm going with the Panthers here who to me, their draft is not sexy at all. It's kind of just like a meat and potatoes draft. But I feel like they landed really good players where they got them. And I think this is going to be a class that makes them better in the long term. I'm row freeling at 19. There were some people that thought he would go in the top 10 because of a run on offensive tackles. I feel like they just kind of sat there and let the draft come to them. And there he was. I don't know if they they thought that they could get him going into this class. But Monroe, freeling quietly fills a massive need for them. Ikea, Kwanu, Torres, a patellar tendon in the playoffs. Like he might not even play this year, not to mention he might not have a future with the team base. I think his next year is a contract year. So they needed to left tackle quietly. And I think he could fill that for the next 10 years. I think they came back and got Lee Hunter, defensive tackle, Texas deck, who is a little bowling ball of a defender who plays a ton of energy, has a ton of power and I think has some untapped upside as a situational pass rusher, kind of just like a collapse the pocket type of guy. And then in the third round, they got a receiver from Tennessee, Chris Brazel. The second, he's, I think, a good complement to what they have already on the team. Tetman Mellon and Jalen Coker. That makes like a really interesting trio of receivers for giving and they're giving Bryce Young the best chance that they can to kind of like continue to emerge this year, or maybe they can at least figure out if he's the future for them. Add in Sam Hecht from Kansas State. He's a center. He might end up starting for them down the line. Zaki Wheatley, Zachy Wheatley. I don't know how to say his name. Zachy Wheatley. Wheatley, he was a guy that was in my top 100. They just kept scooping up value. So I just like the draft overall. And if you look at that draft along with what they've done in free agency this offseason, I just think they're going to be so much more of a badass team next year. They're the type of team who can on defense like hit you. They already have Derek Brown. They got Devon Lloyd. Which defense does not hit you? I mean, there's some soft defenses. It's all relative, of course. Some defenses are soft. Some defenses you're like, fuck, we have to play this team. And I think they're going to be more in the latter camp. Jalen Phillips, they signed in free agency. They got Devon Lloyd. I think he gives them some versatility. They already have JC Horne, Derek Brown. Last year, they drafted Nick Scourton and Princely Oomen, Mealen. These names I'm screwing up, I'm sure. But yeah, I just think if you look at the overall, what they've done this offseason and in particular this draft, I just think they're tougher and more physical. Carolina was responsible. They can't go broke making a profit. Can't go get fired if you keep taking left tackles and defensive tackles. They just took the value on the board. I will say, ironically, I think this is a reach for the team that you thought just kind of let value fall to them. So, you know, I could have let them go. But well, that was this is how my grades went. So suck it. All right. Well, all right. Put it on the to do list, Craig. Just remembered what you said on the last show. I have no idea what you're talking about. You talking about girls cock around my neck? Yes, that's what I'm talking about. Yeah. Out of control. Girls cock around my neck. Oh, I'm not going to give context. You have to go back and find that for yourself. You have to go listen. OK. I will take. God. I might take Baltimore. OK. OK. Who I feel like took very raven's the players. I like when teams stick to their identity in the draft and do what they do well. They got Vega, Ioanni, the guard at Penn State, another guy who's like pound for pound at his position, probably one of the best players in the draft, short up the offensive line. It took Zion Young, the Eddresher, second out of Missouri, another like big physical Eddresher, not to mention that, you know, getting Trey Hendrickson instead of Max Crosby, they kept that first round pick, which was Vega, Ioanni. They also took two other receivers in the middle of the draft, Jacobi Lane and Elijah Sarat, the guy DK mentioned earlier, the Indiana wide receiver who had great chemistry with Mendoza. So I don't know. I just think the ravens, it's like it wasn't sexy, but every like the top two players in the team are probably going to contribute immediately. And I like that they took a couple of shots at wide receiver. The ravens always have they always have this draft where and it helps, I think that they always have third and fourth rounders because they play the comp pick game so well. But yeah, they just address positions of need and they double up. They like to double up at positions. Craig, you mentioned you mentioned with the two receivers, they did that with tight end a couple of times. They've done it with other positions along the line. It just seems like that's kind of what they like to do. But yeah, I mean, you want a classic raven, Zion Young classic raven, when I picture him playing, I'm like, oh, yeah, he fits Ravens defense perfectly. The I think the Sarat thing, Sarat is interesting because they talked about him as a potential slot receiver, like he can play over the middle of the field almost. It almost means to me, I wonder if like they kind of try and emulate what they were doing a lot of times with like Isaiah likely with him. Where they use his side, his back shoulder. He can, you know, just kind of he has a good understanding of how to use his frame to win. I completely agree. Because the truth is they drafted these two tight ends, but rookie tight ends that are not day one picks are rarely going to be like you can't count on them to be a medi contributor. So you look at it like three years from here, we have a starter, maybe. Exactly. Like Matthew Hibner, who went to SMU as a tight end. And then like Josh Quavis from Bama, it's like those guys, the Ravens aren't like we could definitely count on those guys this year. I agree Elijah Sarat is going to replace Isaiah likely for this season. But then, you know, it's funny because Jacobi Lane, the receiver from USC, they took the most incredible hands I've seen in a long time, but also I don't know if he can press. I don't know if he like get off press coverage. I don't know if you can separate, but they're all interesting picks. But I agree. It's the Ravens. It's so funny where it's like the Ravens, you're like, man, every year they draft, they're geniuses. What's their secret? And they're like, well, we needed tight end. So we took two. The other one double our odds. Yeah, yeah. You're talking. The other one that's super interesting here, especially when you look at the the roster, Adam Randall, we talked about him during our running backs group. Running back out of Clemson. He's six, three, two hundred. And what is he? He's like two hundred and thirty pounds or something like that. Former receiver that transferred that switched over to running back and which that's those two things are insane. Six, three, two, twenty was a receiver as a running back. So he'll just be like Derek Henry stunt double. Right. This is what I'm saying. And if you look at the rest of the roster right now, obviously this can change before the year, but they have Justice Hill, who's a shrimp. They have Rashid Ali, who is he's decently sized, but he's not shown anything special. And then they have that's it, basically, on the roster. So he is offensive to Rashid Ali. Great trick return. There's a chance this man sees the field. And I'm very excited to see what could happen there, because I really liked his tape, especially considering and taking into account he's new to the position. I think he has some development to do, but he's very athletic, very powerful runner for the fact that he was a receiver a couple of years ago. Did you see you don't see every day a lengthy comment from a GM in the fifth round pick? Did you see how this pick got made? Oh, that's the other thing is apparently the owner just stepped in was like, I want that guy. Steve Bichotti was like, I've been scouting. I love this guy and Eric DeCostes. He's like, he said, well, Steve, it's your team. Yeah. That's like when like, like, you know, our parents contributed to our wedding and it was like at a certain point, they get to pick a couple of people who come, right? You know, you're picking my cousin, he's coming in. I don't want to hear any more of it. We invite our friends, Cindy and Drew, and I'm like, that's fine. Yeah. You've paid for a lot of stuff during my lifetime. You could have a fifth round or no big deal. But yeah, and that also could meet. He sees the field. Who knows? Maybe the the owner is telling the coaches like, hey, this guy needs to be in the game. I will say Adam Randall should step into our office at name brand. We fix your name. Yeah. Even if you swap it, Randall Adams. Randall Adams is a little better. Randall. Right out the gate. What if you just drop the drop the a. Damn Randall. Whoa. Damn Randall. Damn Randall. You giving that one for free? Damn Randall. Oh, shit. Lose the the. Someone sent this to someone who knows damn Randall and then he could just say Damn Randall. Take a fee. Yeah. Damn Randall. It's good. I'm fucking talking. That's good. That's that's why you're an executive at name brand. That's how you get to be a partner. That's that's why you're an executive vice president. Damn Randall. That's why you're an executive at the company that we created for ourselves. OK, this next one here. This is I don't know if you guys are even going to agree with this. I don't give a shit. All right. Geez. I think the chief's draft was awesome. Oh, they were next on my list. Hands in cities draft was so good. I don't know how it's going to go, but they swung for the fences. Just kidding. You're an idiot. Yeah. Stupid. Kansas City's draft, they literally were like, we're just going to replace our two biggest pieces of defense immediately. They went to get Mansur Delaney. Cornerback out of LSU and Kansas City. They trade up to a couple of fifths and was like, great job, Cleveland. Kansas City's like, I don't give a shit. But I honestly think Kansas City's like we got the best cornerback in the draft and like the rarest of all cornerbacks, which is he can just be man to man outside. We can like that's the guy who hopefully can cover Jamar Chase one on one if Kansas City meets Cincinnati in the playoffs again. And then they go and they're like Trent McDuffie and Nicol. We got we got a new nickel quarterback on the fourth round, like a normal team. And then they come back up in the first round, they get Peter Woods. Defense is tackle Clemson. Peter Woods is the Chris Jones replacement. Like that's the idea. And like, yes, he had a down year. Again, if Peter Woods had come out of the draft a year ago, it might have been a top 15 pick out of just projecting. And it's like, well, he had a down year. Well, everyone in Clemson had a down year. Clemson's defense sucked. Clemson sucked. And the defense got out of the Brett Denibalds family for the first time in forever. And so they're going to need to do a study on this Clemson team. What what what the hell was happening? Everybody when every single player on both sides of the ball at Clemson disappoints, it's not the players like that's just you know what I mean? When everyone is just surprisingly bad. And so Peter Woods falling to Kansas City. I'm like, oh, my God, what if they're right about that? That's crazy. Like, you see, you got Byron Murphy. If it last year, where would Byron Murphy go on a redraft for Seattle? You know what I mean? You never would have gotten him two years ago. And that's how I look at Peter Woods. And then they still get a pass rusher. They still at the fact that Kansas City was still able to get our Mason Thomas at Oklahoma Defense Event at Drescher, whatever. Name, name guy, we'll be talking to you. Our Mason name brand. I don't I don't mind. He sounds like an author, which is kind of interesting. Yeah. I don't mind. Our Mason should we call what's a good nickname? Should I guess our Mason doesn't need. The nickname, but like, yeah, the R mays. He's bad. You know, Mace. Now he's now we're weaponizing. He is our bone. Oh, yeah. Our bone. He's also our bone. Yeah. Wow. And I also like I also like the Emma Johnson pick. I think he makes sense as a backup slash complimentary piece to Kenneth Walker running back out of Nebraska. And then they got Garrett Ness Meyer. Quarterback from LSU in the seventh round. I thought it was going to be a second or third rounder. Sounds like there were some health things that that helped him fall, not helped him fall, spine cyst caused him to fall. What's the big deal to spine cyst? When you talk about a spine, usually that's kind of like a red flag for teams. I think well, Francis, Mary, Noah was the tenth pick to the giants in the entire draft and he's a herniated disc, but that doesn't matter. But this way, I would probably miss a couple pods if I had a spine cyst. And I just sit in a chair. Yeah, yeah. I don't feel like I really even know what a cyst actually is. It's just like a growth. Just a thing. A collection of cells. A bad dot. Yeah. Lump. You don't want lumps. No. No lumps. No lumps, no lumps. Anyway, I for the most part agree with this pick. DK, you're right. Right where I had them. Let's see. Let's see. I'm going to go with the Eagles. Did you already say the Eagles? No. Interesting. Philadelphia. Strikes again. I feel like every year they have very solid draft classes, especially if you look at it relative to kind of like. The where people value these players before the draft starts. Mackay Lemon trading up, as Hyford said, completely embarrassing for the Steelers, like horrifyingly embarrassing Steelers moment there. Totally freaking cucked them on national TV in their own house. Tough look. Tough look. And then Eli Stowers, the Vanderbilt, Titan, extremely interesting prospect. Tons of athleticism, tons of speed, really good pass catcher. Maybe those two guys can help the Eagles offense finally start to thrive in the middle of the field. God knows they need to feel like that is the one thing that's kind of missing from this offense is they need more juice out of the middle of the field. These guys both that's where they both operate. I think that's important. Mark Halbel, huge human being. I think the Eagles are one of those teams where it's like Howie Roseman played video games. He's like, guess what? Like these guys are huge and they move really well. Let's take them guess what happens. These guys are huge. We're fucking bigger than you. We're getting off the getting off the bus. How are you fucking intimidate? Markel Bell is six foot nine, six nine and a quarter. Do you think everyone's over six 10 Craig? Everyone thinks how he roseman's advantage is analytics, but he actually just remembers being bullied. And he's like, you need people that are massive. This guy, this man, six nine, three hundred and forty six pounds with thirty six and a half inch arms. I mean, that's like double Howie Roseman. Howie Roseman is not a tall guy. How are you going to have a measuring stick? They just have how we compare them. Like, holy shit. I will say so. The Eagles, they're definitely planning for the post-AGA Brown World. Adam Schiefter said that it might be a twenty twenty eight first run pick from New England, because apparently no one wants to give up twenty twenty seven picks. In the seventh round, I believe they took this guy whose name I'm probably not getting right. But who are you are? Bernard, who is from Nigeria. He has not played football to speak of, but he is one of the best athletes I've ever heard of. He is a six foot four, three hundred and six pounds, three hundred and six pounds. Keep that in mind while I tell you these are rest of these numbers. Four, six, three, forty, thirty nine inch vertical, ten foot ten broad jump, thirty one and thirty one bench press. He is just a absolute rare extraordinary. One bench press is what we can't really that just fly by. Yeah, I mean, he won. This guy is is is rare athlete. And I think that, you know, of any team in the NFL that I trust to kind of like figure out something to do as this guy, they've listed them as defensive tackle. It is kind of bad ass that there's nothing next to his name. It just says Nigeria. Yeah, I can no college. So yeah, we've got him. I mean, this is just Jordan Milano again. Right. That Jordan Milano was the diamond in the rough that they found through the international pathways program. This is the exact same deal. International international pathways program, I believe it's called, which by the way, you get an extra spot on the practice squad for these guys. So it doesn't even really take up a roster spot if he does make it to the practice squad. I know I keep shouting out, Jeff Stoutland from Leaving Eagles is a big deal. And some people got in a no-do date, but he went on new heights with the Kelsey brothers and because Jason Kelsey obviously was developed by Jeff Stoutland. And I knew Jordan Milano didn't play football before he went. And Jordan Milano is like a top six left tackle. They said that Jordan Milano didn't know what a quarterback was when they took him. He didn't know anything. Who? Who might be left? That guy just don't let anybody hit that guy. Don't literally like it's like happy Gulmore learning to golf. He's like, what do I have to do? Like Jordan Milano didn't know a quarterback was made him left. That was so much easier. I should just do that every time. And so the Eagles, this is a heat check. And they're like, well, he did it with the guy in offense. Let's just do it on the offense. Like, go, go hit him. Also, we should mention that the Eagles drafted the quarterback out of North Dakota State Col Payton, who's like, taste the court. Of course they did. Of course they did. You just know his ass is going to be crucial. He's probably going to score like 10. He's probably going to score 10 touchdowns. I swear to God, if they if the Eagles had any balls, they would have Jalen Hertz run a read option with Col Payton. Hertz is a righty Col Payton's a lefty and they're in two quarterback offense where both guys can legitimately run. I swear to God, that will work in situational football. I I I don't understand. The only issue is they have limited time to practice and no one actually wants to deal with it or be responsible if it leads to a pick six. But if people weren't scared of the consequences, there's no way it wouldn't work. Yeah, love that. So basically, I like all those things that you add in. Shut up. No, I love this. I think it's awesome. But they're the one team again, they're one of very few teams that I trust to actually utilize Col Payton in a way that makes sense. The other thing to add real quick here, and this is, you know, not part of their draft class officially, but you could count it is Don Tavion Wicks, fifth rounder from this year. That's they acquired him for that. And then Jonathan Grenard, who could have 10 sacks for them next year for a pair of thirds, a third this year. So I guess they're doing half this year and then a third next year. And if the ease can be good. Overall, I just thought the Eagles killed it. And two very good players at the top that I very I really liked coming into the coming into the draft, they added Don Tavion Wicks added Jonathan Grenard. They added a few really high upside developmental guys. Yeah, overall, great, great draft for them. What am I up? I'm taking I'm taking the Steelers. Now we're talking who I think, despite the, you know, unbelievable embarrassment of losing Mackay Lemon on live national television, even though they'll never be able to live that down, I think they recovered shameful. Yeah, shameful. Yeah. Omar Khan should be fired for what took place. But we do have Steelers fans emailing in that were like, though hate to say it. Hyphens is right. He was it was embarrassing. I think if you didn't know about if you weren't watching the draft like a normal person and you were just like having a lovely day that carried on living my life. Yeah, I think if you look at what the Steelers did, they did a great job. I think getting Max Iana chore, I Iana chore, Iana chore. How do you say? Iana, yes. Iana chore, the attack on Arizona State, who's like a little bit of a project, but a guy that a lot of people have a high ceiling for in terms of like there is awesome tape on what he was able to do against Malachi Lawrence and against David Bailey in college. Like he is probably capable of playing right tackle immediately for the Steelers. Getting Jeremy Bernard, who's like another home run pick, the wider seeker out of Bam in the second is like a perfect compliment to fill in in the slot next to Michael Pittman and DK Metcalf. The Drew Aller thing, whatever, it's like a high upside pie in the sky pick. And then getting a guy like Jennings Dunker, the tackle out of Iowa, who's my new favorite player in the NFL, who is now probably going to slot in at guard. And now the Steelers have like six offensive linemen under 25 years old that are all solid factor. And I like a couple of late round shots they took too. But like they really needed the outline and they really needed wide receiver. And I thought they accomplished both those goals nicely. The Caden Wet, Jen, sure. Really good kicker turner. He's the guy who took the call that he was getting drafted on the golf course. Yeah, he was like, no way I'm going today. The Steelers between the stars and vibes. They're like, fuck, we got to call someone. No one else on the golf course when we selected Caden Wet, Jen. This is the Steelers being like, God, we can't get fucking embarrassed again. Let's call a guy who's not going to get drafted. The combination of that and then Eli Hydenrick, which they marched in front of everybody, the guy shout out, Mount Lebanon and they just took the local Pittsburgh kit. Navy McCaffrey Navy, Navy McCaffrey and who caught almost half of all of Navy's targets this year went to this kid. Navy Gainwell, I think he's just the Kenneth Gainwell replacement. Upside is Navy McCaffrey. Dirty to me. Honestly, he is kind of like a Gainwell. I actually think he's going to play. I think you'll actually have a long career for seventh round pick. I think he's pretty good. I agree, though, it's great to your point. I mean, if you count Darnell Washington as an offensive lineman, kind of you have eight linemen that are 25 or younger, which is everything. I would say your top, your best eight blockers are 25 or younger, which is kind of everything you want, honestly. So I think, you know, if only one of your quarterbacks would just, you know, inform the professional football team if they want to play professional football this year, you'd be in a really good spot. Well, we made him an offering, can't refuse a 10 percent raise to a guy who has a hundred and fifty million dollars. Dude, I will say one of the people we emailed in were like, do you think that the Cowboys were trying to call the Steelers about a trade but they didn't pick up because they were on the phone with Makaia Lemon. The line's busy. Yeah, they don't have call waiting. It's busy. What year is it? Oh, my God. Did you guys ever experience the busy signal in your life? Was that a thing that you had to do? Yeah, it's still happening. I'm not 10 years old. Just checking. I was born into 90s, DK. Yeah, OK, fine. Come on. We're we're we're we got one foot in, one foot out the millennium, bro. Come on. Yeah. Yeah. Fair fair. The next year, wow, I'm gonna pick and then we'll recap the draft. This is everyone's fourth. This is your fourth pick. I'm stuck between two completely different drafts. But I'm going to take. The Miami Dolphins, which is funny, kind of, because they took they had 13 picks. I hated a third of them. I thought the dolphins have the worst pick in the entire draft, which is Caleb Douglas, a third round receiver that genuinely might have gone undrafted by other teams like no one else has even heard of this guy. No, multiple other teams may not have taken Caleb Douglas in any of the seven rounds. And yet the dolphins are doing a hard rebuild, the hard way. They are cutting to it. They're getting rid of Tyree kill. They got rid of Bradley Chubb, the Trader Jalen Waddle. And you know what, 13 picks. It is very hard to go 0 and 13, like, unless you're the New York Mets, it's very hard to screw up like 13 picks in a row. And I just I the other eight picks they made, I really like. And we could go through them, but I just making 13 picks. You're bound to hit four or five. And I just I think Miami will like I like a lot of their spots. So you're just kind of volume shooting here. Yeah. Yeah, no one knows shit, man. It's like, that's the humility of the draft. It's the smart teams aren't like I know what I'm doing. The smart teams like fuck, if I know, let's take 14 people. And then that's usually works. Bill Belichick won six Super Bowls being like, I don't know. Let's just take a lot of people and then meet them when they get here. And so I specifically, I think the ones that I like are I think Chris Johnson, go as techs cornerback out of where Craig. Go state state state. I think it's a great pick. I think Jacob Rodriguez, the linebacker from Texas Tech, is just going to be like an absolute fan favorite immediately. Like I think we'll I can't pronounce his name. We'll cash Merrick, the tight end at Ohio State, blocking tight end as boring as it gets. He's going to be the NFL for like 12 years. Like Chris Bell, the receiver from Louisville, he's like ACLJ Brown. I don't I try to make that all morning. I couldn't figure out that. A.J. Brown, ACLJ Brown. There's no good answer. I couldn't figure it out. That was like me saying, A.T. Aliens. It's just that was bad. I try. All right. But the flip. Yeah, the flip side is I also just think the idea that they took a left tackle as their first pick of the street. You say, at Leans. Yeah, I fucked it up. It is. Use A.T. Aliens. Use it at Leans. Right. Right. That was the high test mistake from you. It's all right. But anyway, I don't we all swing and miss sometimes. When I when I when I said it, I knew immediately. I was like, fuck. Can see the trying to grab the words as they fell out. No, no, no. Come back. Those me, Mitterian Lannister, quote. Oh, yeah. No, no. I was right around my neck. So what I meant. OK. You're like, I am recounting this quote at a very fast pace. I am bound to screw this up. You know why it's because it's shot under Red Bull. I know you. Yeah. You really you really. What was your total Red Bull count over the trip? I'd prefer not to think about it. Spotify, the Spotify facilities, people like, where the fuck are all the Red Bull? Why do we have to order a whole special case of Red Bull? Who went through all this? If Red Bull wants to sponsor us, I mean, it'd be a wonderful fit. High fits. A huge fan of your profile. High fits only, actually. That'd be funny to read it out. And like, yeah, just just me. This episode is brought to you by Amazon. Life's full of little surprises, like spilling coffee everywhere. Five minutes before a meeting or reaching for a diaper and realizing the bag is empty. Kind of like Draft Night. You think, you know, the plan, then everything changes. Look, life can be unpredictable, but every day shopping doesn't have to be with great savings on essentials. Amazon helps you cover the basics and the surprises. Because when life throws a curveball, it's nice knowing there's a place you can count on Amazon. Save on essentials. Save the every day. All right, Craig, you have halfway through the draft draft. Do we recount the picks so far? Yeah, sure. Yeah, we're 16 in. We're going to have to pick up the pace. DK's team, DK has the Raiders, the Cowboys, the Panthers and the Eagles. Who said we were 16 in? We're definitely 12 in. Oh, sorry, you have the Browns, the Cowboys, the Panthers and the Eagles. Halfway, we're a third of the way. We'll really speed it up. All right. Oh my God, we're going to go fast. We're going to go with 12 teams. I have the Giants, the Bucks, the Raiders and the Steelers, and Heifetz has the Raiders, the Jets, the Chiefs and the Dolphins. We got to pick this up, DK. All right, here we go. Let's see here. I got to pick the team first here. I'm just going to go with. And this is especially relative to the fact that they did not have a first round pick. I'm going to go with the Colts. I like what the Colts did in their draft. If you count Saas Gardner, that helps a lot, certainly. But I'm not going to do that here. I just liked what they did from basically the second round on. CJ Allen, Georgia, just a tone setting type of linebacker. AJ Halsey, one of my favorite safeties in this class. Same kind of deal as Allen. Just will come downhill, big hits. He's kind of a mini-cam chance or type of guy who just wants to intimidate you over the middle of the field, things like that. Jaylen Farmer, I think he could end up starting for them at guard. And then Dion Burks getting him in the seventh round. I thought it was a really good value. Speedster ran like a 4-3-1, and he could come in and eventually work his way into being a third receiver there. So I don't know this. And then, you know, just top to bottom, it was a very solid draft class, considering all the considering, especially the fact they didn't have a first rounder. I still think that Indianapolis is dogged pursuit of trading multiple first rounders and going all in just to capture the magic of starting one season eight and two. One time is pathetic and will look very poor in hindsight. Having or Balzy or Balzy, maybe they'll maybe it'll be their year. However, this is the kind of draft they needed because I thought they got phenomenal value at every spot that they really needed to starter and I was very impressed by this draft in Indianapolis. They also drafted a guy named George Gums. George Gums with a B. So I call my George Gums, Junior, as opposed to my dog. My dog, George is all gums. For some reason, his teeth all fell out. I don't know. George Gums, George Gums, Junior. Yeah. Please. My father was George Gums. OK, next. Here, keep it moving. Craig. I'm going to go with the Chargers because. I think a key Mestador was sick and he's going to be good immediately. And they took Jake Slaughter, who's going to be a guard, which is help that they needed desperately. I love how fired up Mike McDaniel is about Brennan Thompson, the receiver they took at the fourth. Oh, my God. Mississippi State. Yeah, I'm falling for it. I'm falling for that. You don't like that guy? Mike McDaniel wanted to take. He's 164 pounds. Mike McDaniel has a history of small players playing fucking great. And I'm going to Davod H.N. OK, but that's a different player. He's a running back. He also Davon H.N. Is a history of players playing great. You said which ones I'm on. H.N. 190. That's 30. That's like almost 30 pounds. Have you know the 164? But he's a running back. He's a running back. Yeah, he's 30. He's a light running back. Dude, all right. Don't act like I am crazy. 164 pounds. But I like to literally the latest offensive player in the entire league. And respectfully, respectfully, why the hell would I take your opinion over Mike McDaniels? 160 because I don't know how many players he said respectfully. I said respectfully. You could say with a velvet painting of a whale. We don't do respect. I trust Mike McDaniel and his eagerness to take off his clothes for this man. Well, then he better be fucking good. Yeah. Yeah. Fred and Thompson never sees the field. Fantasy people are going to be fucking this. 164. It's just a lot. That's look, get up. Get up and eating regimen. I also think the charge is took him in the fourth round. You know, they take him in the top of the second. I just want to. All right, whatever. If I had been celebrating a 164 pound player, I think DK would be throwing cold water all over my shirtless body. But this man's weight, if he was 170, would you feel OK about it? That's that's also consu... I'm just saying it's just the kind of player that usually goes in the sixth round because they're never going to play. But it's too. At well was like the same height and weight. He sucks. And just in the league. Two to one. He made ten million dollars last year. Yeah. And then and then they didn't bring him back. He has a beard. Whatever. Maybe I'm rock. I don't know. Just now it's. I think the charges not trading back from the key Mestador pick was surprising. Considered that bills traded back three times and Mestador doesn't necessarily have the run defense. They want to. I don't know. We'll see. But he's good. You know, a key Mestador wasn't college. Good. I hope he's good for the charge. It's fine. Look, the L.A. Chargers, the most notoriously injury prone team that has somehow been washed out by the Niners in the substation, getting a 25 year old guy with two different football seasons, leading to like what medical rigour, medical red shirt for two different seasons ruined by foot injuries. No problem on the charges. There's no issue that can happen there. I think I'm very excited for the charger season. And I'm happy that they took guys on the defensive and offensive line. And so I'm excited. I would love the chargers to be good. OK, that's who you got. I'm going to take the Texans because it was a limited draft. But I think the Texans if the Texans can make the super. The Texans can make the Super Bowl this year. If three things happen, C.G. Stroud's brain doesn't turn to soup. The Texans defense stays healthy. And the Texans nail their first two picks because they got Keelan Rutledge, the guard from Georgia Tech. And then they have Cade McDonald, the defense attack of my state that Craig made fun of me because I was so upset that Giants didn't get him. But those two guys, the only two things. Hyphens and Austin were like salad running, running around the room, just apoplectic that they that Cade McDonald was picked there. And it's funny because every team passed on him, every single team declined to take Cade McDonald and that at least once or twice. And we're dying for him. But I will say, I just think he's a clogger and he's exact. He's like, you know, really, like Darren Rizzi, you know, he's just a clogger and that's a whole clogger. And this is premium whole clogger. Premium, yeah, premium whole clogger. And I just think the Texans have a serious chance to win the Super Bowl if their defense stays healthy and Stroud doesn't suck. They also drafted a German guy named Marlon Klein. I hated that pick. He's he's like a little bit too cute to me, but we'll see. Six, six crazy athletes. He's going to be a blocker or whatever. I'm like, sure. But I don't know. The run on tight ends in the second round was a little funky. They also got Wade Woodass to be behind Aziz Al-Shayir, which is like elite linebacker depth. That guy does not need our help. Wade Woodass. Wade Woodass. Wade Woodass. What are you laying there, Wade? All right, next up, I am going to I'm surprised this hasn't been taken yet. I'm going with the commanders who, first of all, quietly, somewhat quietly, especially relative to how much we talked about this guy in the run up to the draft, got sunny styles at number seven. I think that's just perfect for them. What they want to do, they can build their defense around him. He is. Shoot, I'm trying to remember. So what I was reading the other day, someone called him a pterodactyl in the middle of field, I think. He's just got long arms, tons of range, can fly around, yeah, can deal with some of the, like the really mobile quarterbacks in the division also can function as a situational pass rusher at times and also blitz. So I just think there's a ton of outside there. I think Antonio Williams in the third round makes a ton of sense for them. He's a reliable receiver out of Clemson. He's reliable inside, outside receiver, great hands, dynamic playmaker. He is one of those guys who's just a football player. He threw two touchdowns in college, does a little bit of everything, runs after the catch. And then Joshua Joseph's in the fifth round. I thought was really good value for them. He is a designated pass rusher. I think he's probably going to just be a sub package type guy only, but that's what you get in the fifth round. But he has a ton of juice as a pass rusher. So he gives them some some help in that group. And then Caitran Allen in the sixth round. No, I know this wasn't a great running back group. Caitran Allen is not the fastest guy in the world, but I think he's got good vision. He's got good wiggle and he could be a one. He could be like a backup, a good backup in that in that running back groups. So I think overall, they did a really good job. Washington just hit everything on the fairway with the free agent. Their free agency perfectly compliments the draft. They dealt with it. They needed front seven desperately. They got the edge Russian free agency. They got signed to Daffy away from the charges, got sunny styles in the middle. And then everyone else is just like a reasonable depth piece at a place that they needed it. I just don't love the only with the commanders. And I know they didn't have a ton of picks, so it's hard for them to accomplish this. But like, I just don't feel good about the targets that they've surrounded Jane McDaniels with. Like, I just don't think it's that good. Yeah, that's fair. Like you have Terry McClaren, who's 30. I guess you hope Antonio Williams works out, but it's like you have Trail on Berks. You have Luke McCaffrey. The running backs on the commanders are Rashad White and Bill Merritt and like Jerome Ford. I just like the tight end is Chica Conquill. Like I just don't think this is a high quality enough offensive skill group to like win you a Super Bowl. I just don't think so. Point about Chica Conquill, believe it or not, he has more touchdowns in his career than every other tight end on the roster combined. So it's not a very experienced. It's not a Super Bowl worthy offensive. I agree. It's an unimpressive skill. Yeah, Starter's Rashad White. He's more of like a complimentary guy. Craig, I will say it. Will it feel different and look different to you if they do pull off this this trade for fuck the 49ers receiver, Aiyuq, and he comes in there and I mean, it's hard for me to feel good about anything. Well, if they get Brandon Aiyuq for like a sixth round pick or some shit. That's that's very valid, Craig. Brandon Aiyuq, who's going to have to give back guaranteed money, maybe from his contract. Debo Samuel is still a free agent. What's going on with Debo? Are we is he going to play this year? I think no, everyone's waiting for after June 1st, which is when you don't have to give compensatory picks. So like certain guys that were like free, like if you sign them, however, a guy like digs, I don't know what's going on with him because he was cut technically, I don't know. But I don't think Debo is like. I mean, if they thought Debo was a real contributor, he would be on Washington. I'm not impressed. Well, the rest of the league would have thought that as well. Yeah. Anyway, no, I generally agree with Craig's point, though. I'm going to take Tennessee and I'm doing it because I'm happy that they gave Cam Ward somebody to work with. And then they even got Keldrick Falk, the edge rush out of Auburn at the end of the first round. And then DK, they got a linebacker. I know you like Anthony Hill, Jr. in the second round. They brought in a run. They bought in that Penn State running back, Nick Singleton late, who's like a low floor, high upside, maybe was a really high recruit back in the day. Didn't quite work out. But Carnotated for it's like, sure, that was probably too high. But you need to get somebody for Cam Ward to fucking throw the ball to. And if you don't look at when he was picked and you just look at what they did, I think you feel good going into this year that now you have like something to work around with with Cam Ward. I completely agree. I Keldrick Falk is fell in the draft because he's not. I would say, tell me if you're wrong, he's he's explosive and versus. Sorry, he's strong and versatile, but not necessarily the most explosive player. Yeah. However, Keldrick Falk again, he will be eligible for a contract extension on his rookie deal when he is younger than a key message door is now. So you just have to be, you know what I mean? And so it's 21, I believe he's 20. He's not. Yeah, he just turned 21. And no, that's the truth. Twenty two in September, but regardless, he's three and a half years younger than a key message door. So I like that pick. I also, Anthony Hill, Jr., the linebacker to Texas, going to Titans in the third round. Tennessee desperately needed an inside linebacker. That's one of the reasons we thought they might take sunny styles is because like the Titans linebacker group was not ready to run the defense. And so I think Anthony Hill is a big add for them. Anthony Hill is one of the most fun players to watch in this whole class. He flies around. It's crazy. I mean, he's like, he does a lot of they like run blitz him. So he's just coming through the line of scourge. It's like overshown tomorrow. Overshows at Texas and Anthony teams recruit similar players. And Anthony Hill is a little bit in that vein, but he he's a rangy, explosive, athletic linebacker, tons of upside there. I love that pick. And like, you would have felt pretty grim heading into the season if you didn't take Carnell Tate. And now, you know, now the wider seeker group Tate plus Calvin Ridley, Wanda Robinson, Alec Io Manor and Chimeri DK, who was actually pretty interesting last year. All pro-poem returner. Totally. When you kind of round all those guys together, you're like, you know what, this is actually something you can work with. And Nicholas Singleton, the running back from Penn State, is, you know, fifth round pick. But again, that with Tony Pollard and yes, a dart throw, but Tony Pollard and Tashi Spears are in contract years. So I think it's going to work. OK, so I'm up now. This is where things get a little get a little flat. Well, we're now moving from complimentary towards apathetic. Slightly derogatory. It's funny. I could take the Patriots here, but there's no way I'm going to get caught dead saying the Patriots had a good weekend. So I'll leave that to one of you boys. We're not talking about the coaches here or no, no, no, no. We're talking about the draft that the GM specifically only was there to make right. That's what that's what we're talking about. No constant communication here. They'd left him on red on day three. I'm just going to go ahead and take. I'll just take the Bears because I just it's not perfect. And I still wish they just had a better front seven. But man, getting Dylan Theoniman, the safety at Oregon, it's exact. I mean, he would have perfect fit with him in Dennis Allen's defense. And then they got a center, the the kid from Iowa. I just I mean, they're center retired. It's not sexy, but like this is one of those teams that come with the Super Bowl. And Dylan Theoniman is the kind of defensive back that you're half with your season. You're like, Holy shit, how did this guy go 25th? And I love that guy. We're at the point now in this in this the draft draft where it's like, if you kind of crushed your first run pick, now you're eligible to be taken. I mean, honestly, like I just the Bears are trying to win a Super Bowl and they got an amazing defensive back. And I like their other picks, too. But I mean, the Bears are funny because they are they're similar to some of these other teams that we're making fun of this week, which was like they don't seem to understand the idea of value. They take guys that are, you know, 200th on the the consensus draft board in the second round. They seem to do that every year. Xavier and Thomas, the receiver from LSU was kind of the guy this year that that was that guy. And then I think Logan Jones, it was kind of considered to reach, but he could end up being a starter for them. That felt a little bit like a panic pick because their center retired. But Sam Rausch, the Rausch, the tight end from Stanford could be a good depth piece for them at tight end. They love doing tight end, like multiple tight end set stuff in that offense. Kishan Elliott was another guy that I liked coming in and they got him late. They got him in the fifth round. So I thought that was a good value. So overall, I thought it was a good draft. I just love Theatrum and though he's awesome. Who's next for you, DK? I'm going to go with the Bengals because and again, this is kind of including the fact that they traded the 10th pick for Dexter Lawrence. I know you could talk about. Well, we could talk about if that was an overpay or not, but they used that piece of draft capital to get a. I think they basically spent their 10th pick on Dexter Lawrence. That's a draft move. You like half credit because like you like half credit because you're like, yeah, we did that, but you don't feel it in your bones. You know what I mean? I I understand what you're saying. But still, I think even if you look past that, I like the the players that they added. Cash's Howl is just by that logic. Imagine Cowboys fans being like, take the Michael Parsons trade and then telling them that you won the draft. Think about what you got. You got you think about we got Michael Parsons. Look at Malachi Lawrence. Like they'd fucking lose their minds. I personally I think you can include a player if this is like the you're getting a new player because of that draft pick. Like sometimes it's like for the Cowboys, I'm not including Michael Parsons in their draft class because he was there last year. You know what I mean? So it's like it is a little bit of like, I don't know how you define it. But to me, in my mind, I'm just kind of counting. It's part of it. It's part of it for sure, for sure. Well, we'll say half. We'll say three. Yeah, it feels like half. But past that, you got Cash's Howl, who I think is a day one contributor. He can come in and provide heat off the edge. He's going to be a pain in the ass. Cause chaos in the in the backfield. They absolutely need that. They lost. What's his face? Hendrickson in the offseason. I think Takara Davis could come in and play for them. He's really long. Cornerback on the outside from Washington. They got Connor Liu, the center from Auburn, who I think that was a great value for them. The reason he fell so far is because he tore his ACL last season. But if he gets healthy, he could end up being a starter for them. Brian Parker is another guy that could end up playing on their offensive line. And I like to jack entries, the tight end out of Texas, who I think in two years, he may be starting for them as well. So like if you look at this class, it's not sexy. That's the reason they kind of fell this spot. But I think you get multiple starters or end or contributors early on. OK, I'm going to take, I think this is the 20th pick now. So we're really kind of in the muck. I'm going to take the Saints because I think if you're a Saints fan, you are cautiously optimistic about what your offense could look like in 2026. And Jordan Tyson at eight, pairing him with Chris Olave. They also took Bryce Lance, Trey Lance's brother in the fourth round, another big wide receiver. They took a title. And as fast as hell. He is fast. He is a lot faster than Trey Lance. He can run like the wind blows. They took a tight end. Oscar Delp, who is in DK's top 100. And they runs a 4-4 Craig. I love Oscar Delp in college. I love just watching when I was watching Georgia. I don't know. Honestly, it might just be the pure helmet bias of having seen. Oh, it's definitely uniform bias. He's like, oh, is this the next Brock Bowers? It's like, I mean, that's probably all it is. I remember Brock Bowers. That guy looks like him kind of. But I did like the help. He was one of those players that was a, I want to say, he was a pretty big time recruit. He was a four star and his production was never quite there. But like the way that they play offense, the production is kind of hard. One day we're going to have to break down how they give these stars out. I love when people are upgraded. When it's like they were a two star, but then they signed with the team and they have like a good year. And it's like, oh, actually he's been upgraded to a three star. So they do that? Yeah, people get upgraded all the time. Oh, wow. I don't know how that works. It's like they have a good off season and then they become a three star. How does that work? I don't know. I but yeah, I'll take the saints. I think that's fair. Yeah, yeah. I can see that. I could see that. You can see that. So can I should I take the how much am I getting my should I take the packers and just be like, Mike Parsons great pick with that first. No, we just went over this. It's a long time ago. Why do you have to be such a curmudgeon about it? All right, because the Giants lost Dexter Lawrence. And I'm like, oh, I'm going to be like, and I'm still I feel like I'm the only Giants fan is upset about it. But whatever. Like the Giants traded for the 10th pick. Sick Giants traded for Francis. No, and everyone's like, golf clap. Cool. Anyway, I'll take the bills because I think I respect the discipline of they did the not sexy, but extremely responsible thing, which was in a draft. And I said this on Thursday show. Anyone that everyone was like, yeah, 18th pick to like the 50th, 60th pick. It's all flat. All the guys are similar. Well, the bills are the only one who acted like it. And they traded out three times. And guess what? Oh, George hates this. He's just George George. Are you counting DJ Moore in the Sierrath class? I have it's no, but I think that what was impressive is that. And would they be higher or lower if you were? Oh, they got DJ Moore. They got DJ Moore for a 2026 second. But the bills. You can include it. And DK, how many mock drafts did you see where people gave T.J. Parker, the defensive end of Clemson to the bills in the first round? A lot, including my own. There you go. So the bills traded back three times, basically collected the. If you add up all the value they got, basically, it's like the equivalent of like the 44th pick of the three trades. Well, they traded the 60th pick for DJ Moore. So they more or less like, according to the nerd charts, made up the value of that trade and then still got the guy they were going to get anyway. And then all the bills, they also just made a lot of picks. Like the bills ended up making, I think like 10 plus picks here. And it's like, I'm not going to go through all the players. I like Skyler Bell, the receiving you, they got all the defenders, but like they have a new defense Sean McDermott, the head coach has gone. They have Jim Leonard, a new defense coordinator, the new system. And like it's smart to just make a lot of picks and trade back. And I like that they accumulated a lot of value and had the discipline to do it because I think a lot of teams probably felt that way, but we're too cowardly to do it. I think a couple of guys that are interesting in this class outside of T.J. Parker, which made a hundred. He was just the most on brand pick you could imagine for the bills. That was why everybody had him going there. Davidson, Ig Binnison, Ig Binnison from Ohio State. The names are unbelievable in the bills. Yeah, they do have some good names in this. Caleb Elarm Elarm's or. But yeah, Ig Binnison was an interesting one. I think he's a really long, physical outside corner, twitchy athlete. He's one of those guys where I can't tell if this is a positive or negative, but he is absolutely just he he fricking he had 30. He got called for 30 flags in college. So he's the most like the most physical, almost blatantly over. He just needs to be a little more subtle. I like that he plays with physicality. He's high on the basketball court. Yes, 100 percent. I kind of guy. So like you can hear him chasing you down the clapping on the field is like scary. And then these players end up missing the ball. Going from watching the draft and like watching prospects and stuff to like turning on the NBA playoffs. And I'm just like, they call these fouls. I'm like, what the fuck? He barely touched him. I'm like, it's so infuriating to go from watching football in April to basketball in April. It's just like, Jesus, that's a foul. Like, my God, no wonder people are out on. I don't want to live in a world where that's a foul. Unbelievable. Skyler Bell, the receiver out of Yukon is another interesting one in the fourth round. I think that's about where he should have gone. Did all these guys sound like John Wick assassins? Jalen Kilgore, Zane Durant, Toriano Pride. It's unbelievable. Yeah. Armad, Rij, Armad read Adams. Tommy Domen. Jude Bowery. Yeah, there's some good ones. I could I could see this. I think it's fair. Wait, is it me? I'm going with the Patriots. I'll say it. Elliott Wolfe did a good job in this. Can we make a big Instagram graphic? DK thinks the Patriots they won the week. I'm not saying they won the draft. I'm saying the picks that they made, I mean, made sense to me. You're you're saying they had the twenty second best draft. It's not like you're exactly right. Giving them a trophy. I liked that they traded up. They had a target in Caleb Lomu. They traded up a couple of spots to grab him. They he could end up being a long term starter for them. Gabe Akis was one of my favorite players in this draft. They talked about him a ton in the pre-jump process. He absolutely fucking clobbers people. He hits harder. He's like cement back there. He is he's really fun to watch. You got this whole cans. Dude, he just like when that when he hits quarterbacks, they crumple to the ground. It's crazy. Eli Raritan, a tight end out of Notre Dame. He is another very interesting pick for them. He could be the long term successor to Hunter Henry. And then if you go down down the list a little bit further, they had like some developmental guys. Jam Miller out of Alabama, I think is an interesting pick in the seventh round. He I don't think he's like the most versatile running back, but he definitely runs hard. He runs really hard. So I'm excited to watch him in the preseason. But overall, I think it's the first those first three picks stood out to me. I thought they got three, you know, starters with those picks. OK, Craig, can I include Jalen Waddle in the if I pick Denver? Yeah, yeah, I'll take I'll take Denver. Hi, Fitz is I feel like I fits his decision on who to include is all over the place. But don't you know what I mean? Don't you know what I mean? Where I'm like, obviously, the player matters, but also when you're doing your grade, we're not grading it like the trade happened during the draft, like you kind of are like the information settled in. And you're like, it's like half or two thirds. Am I crazy? Like I think I'm OK in the moment, it feels like that. But then after the fact, now looking back and you're like, oh, if I'm a Broncos fan, you're like, we traded the 30th pick in the draft for Jalen Waddle. That's awesome. Fair. But isn't that I guess what I'm saying? Isn't that something you tell your logical brain, but you don't necessarily feel? I don't know if I agree. I feel like if I was a Broncos fan, I'd be like, fuck. Yeah, like in the draft, we acquired Jalen Waddle. Here's how I would stipulate it. I kind of I understand what Hyphers is saying. I generally just I don't know if you can put a number on it. But the fact that they're going to have to pay Waddle a lot of money versus what the rookie would make is a little bit different. So maybe we'll just say like 0.75. I guess what I'm saying is I'm not saying that what you're also getting the guarantee that he's good, but I'm not saying I should be correct. I'm not trying to be like, this is how it should be. But it is how it like, I guess this is the simplest way to say it. DK, you get did you like the what was your favorite trade of all the offseason trades? Or let's say you thought the DGM or trade, the bills got a great return on that. You thought that was fantastic, right? No, I didn't. But go ahead. No, sorry. We argued about this. You said the bear has got a good return for DGM or I thought. Right. Right. OK, well, you gave the bears a B minus. If the DGM or happened trade happened during the draft, don't you think it might have been a higher grade? I see what you mean. Everyone would give higher grades if these trades happened during the draft. That's all I'm saying. I get that. But I think assessing it now retroactively from a fan's perspective, it has to be included. That's fine. I get it. I'm not saying I'm right. I just it is a weird thing that like the same trades on the day of would change it. But I know you're right. It shouldn't be that way. So so, yeah, the Broncos, they traded their 30th pick for Waddle, and then they didn't have a pick until the beginning of the third round, which they took a defensive tackle. And then they took Jonah Coleman, the running back out of Washington. The thinking man. Was he is he the thinking man's camp scataboo? Yeah, it took the thinking man's camp scataboo. Which, you know, they needed another running back with RJ Harvey and I guess JK Dobbins is there. But this is mainly just like a they needed a playmaker at wide receiver. And they guaranteed that they got one. I love when you're at a restaurant and it's like a confident menu. Like there's like seven things on the menu. You're like every single thing is like. But an Oki had that. There was like booting. No key things on the menu. If you live in LA, go to but an Oki. I actually did like order everything. We did. We did. And I think the Broncos draft like Sean Payton for better or for worse. He drafts like a Michelin star chef. We was like, well, we only really need four players. So I'm just going to take the right four players. And like that's kind of how Denver and Sean Payton operate. They're like, I need that receiver. I need this running back. This defensive tackle and the linebacker. Yeah, I'm done. Speaking of all name team, Cage Casey, the offensive tackle out of Boise State. Cage. With a K. Cage with a K is. And they also took a guy named Red Murdock. Dude, the names. Red Murdock. That guy's right out of the red Murdock is a linebacker. Red Murdock. Private eye. And he's out of Buffalo. Man, Red Murdock. Red Murdock and Cage Casey are on the case. You think there's been a Red Murdock at the NFL already? I feel like they're half of them. He was not relevant. Well, not relevant. Oh, was he? Yeah. Sick. That's picking the draft. Red Murdock. Look at that. All right. Let's keep it moving. Well, I'm going to take the Green Bay Packers. And I'm going to do that even though I, well, you know, I do I get half of Micah Parsons? Sure. Since it was a year ago. I think it's more like a quarter. I don't know. I don't know the answer. We will afford you 25 percent. I think the Packers, it's maybe this is. What's how much do we factor in the fact that he fucking tours ACL? Okay. 20 percent. I don't know the answer, but the other ones I once we get past the Packers, they're trending toward teams that I thought less of. And so I don't know. This is a bad pick, but I'll give quarter of Micah Parsons. But also they didn't make a ton of picks for Green Bay, but I just think the players they got were very Green Bay. Like they're all just good values. They get like, I can always go to name right Brandon Ceasey, the defensive back from South Carolina. Just a good player that they kind of needed. I think Chris McClellan, defensive tackle from Missouri. Well, Green Bay needed one and they got a good one. I think Danny did he's Sutton. We actually talked about him going to Penn State, not going to Penn State, going to Packers. Tyler Brooke. He shouted out Danny, didn't he Sutton as a match for the Packers like a month ago. And I thought that was a great call. They just got a lot of good parts. I hate drafting a kicker, but they got Trace Mack from Florida. I love a kicker named Smack. Trace Mack. Kicker named Smack. Jesus, look at that name. The I just feel like the all these guys are Trace Mack is wild. And also dude, Florida had Trace Mack and a kicker. He sounds like a rapper from 2012. Dude, Florida also had Jake Slaughter. They had Jake. Smack is on the track, Craig. Jake Slaughter and Trace Mack were on the same team. Trace Mack. Like Trace Mack opened for ACON in 2009. Trace Mack. That's it's so good. They also have a Jaeger or Jaeger Burton. Yeah. Florida might have had Florida had some of the best names in all of college football last year. All right. Well, cool. I'll count that. I'm going to be a fucking homer. I'm going to take the Seahawks. Even though we can certainly quibble about the value of taking a running back in the first round, I do think he will end up playing a lot for them and be pretty good for them. I like him as a player. Yeah, I should have took them instead of Packers. I actually think those stupid. I definitely did not love the value of that, but I think they did kind of just get into a weird situation, bad luck where they couldn't trade back and they just really wanted this guy. So they said, fuck it and we'll take him. Everything else I was pretty happy with though. Bud Clark really liked him. He was a guy I kind of identified before the draft as a Seahawks-esque type player. You knew they were taking him months before they took him, but you know, you're just telling us now. Well, you can go check out a video. I was on the Seahawks man to man podcast a couple of weeks ago with Mike Dugar, and he was a guy that I kind of identified. So suck it, high fits. Bud Clark, he's a corner who he's a corner sized safety. So he could play Nicobacca. I think there's a world in which he could play corner. He flies around incredible ball skills. I want to say he had like 15 interceptions in college. Julian Neal, a corner out of Arkansas was a player that I think every Seahawks fan that closely studies the draft had circled as a Seahawks type player. They took him in the third round, both Stevens multi-year starter for Iowa's offensive line. That's all I need to know. Plug him in, let him play. He's teammates with Jennings Dunker. So that's good. And then after that, there was just kind of a bunch of random guys. They got Emmanuel Henderson, who is basically a special teams player, and then a couple other developmental guys in the seventh round. But they turned, they had four picks coming in. They traded around, they ended up taking, let's see here, eight players. And I do think there are at least two to three starters in this group. So overall, obviously I hate the value of that first rounder, but overall they came away with some good players. We are now, this is the 26th pick, and I think this team has been appropriately punished by selecting them here, but I will take the Arizona Cardinals now. Who, there's only like six teams that can go after them. I don't think they had a great draft, but at 26, you can be excited that you have Jeremiah Love, who might be the best player in the draft. Yes. I think that's totally correct. Best player in the draft? Boo. You took a shot at a quarterback, you think might be good. Maybe DK suggested they might have been number one on Arizona's board, Carson Beck out of Miami. You took a good guard and chased Basantis in the second round. Was it the right draft for them? Maybe not, but 26 here. Will it be kind of cool to see Jeremiah Love rip off a couple runs this year? Yeah. Absolutely. And maybe you get your wide receiver in your quarterback next year and it all works out. Maybe we end up looking like idiots. Wouldn't be the first time. Speaking of which, oh man, there's two teams here I could take. I'm surprised one team is still on the board here. I think I'm going to take the Lions. Yeah, that's the team. Like the Lions, it's like the obvious one here. The Lions, I'm going to say, I mean, the Lions did fine. The Lions got, I mean, they got a right tackle with the 17th pick, Blake Miller at Clemson, who, and they're going to move Pinesu to left tackle. And they needed that. And then they went and did everything. The Lions, the Lions have needed the same three spots for like five years. They needed edge rushers. They needed cornerbacks, particularly than like defense. And that's kind of what they went and got. They got Derek Moore out of Michigan. And like that's a Lions ass player. Like, you know what I mean? Keith Abbey, the quarterback from Arizona State, I thought he might go higher. He ended up going in the fifth round. He's fine. Like, I don't know. They need bodies. It's like they did, they're kind of another on the, they hit it on the fairway team. They got the positions that they needed to get kind of like, Washington just without the really sexy pick, like, you know, Washington got sunny styles, but I don't know. Like, Lions got what they need. So I think that there's, we always have these conversations and it's kind of a narrative from every draft, but it's going to be very interesting to watch. Like for instance, David Bailey versus R. Velary's like, watch their careers over the next four or five years, who ends up being a superstar. Maybe they both ended up being superstars and we never talk about it again. Maybe one guy's awesome and the other guy's a total bust. Who knows? I think it's going to be interesting to watch what happens with Blake Miller versus Monroe Freeling. Because everybody connected Freeling to the Lions pre-draft and thought, oh, this makes a ton of sense for them. They could just leave Sewell, you know, where in his position that he's most comfortable at. He's like an all pro at that spot. We don't have to worry about it. Don't have to like, you know, reinvent the wheel and fuck around with all of, oh, there's a cat on this grass. Yes. Let's go. Oh, look at this guy. There's a cat on the field. It's the Lions. He came for the Lions pick. Oh boy. But I think it will be interesting to watch Blake Miller versus Monroe Freeling. Because Monroe Freeling went two picks later to the Panthers. And Blake Miller, it felt like a little bit of a reach. I think he fits like what their identity is and toughness and grit. And he was only, he only missed like one practice in college. So like I can understand why they liked him. But I think Freeling has higher upside. So we'll see how that goes. God, it's getting grim. So who's next? Who's up? DK, you're up. I'm up. Okay. Well, there's two, there's two classes here that I'm trying to choose between. You wearing a cat on your shirt. Yeah, it's a picture of the cat and then this is the cat. It's cat's section. Look at them. All right. I'll go with the Vikings. I think the Vikings have been punished enough. This is kind of what Craig said. The Vikings have been punished enough for making a risky pick in the first round. It's the right call, DK. The Vikings, look, if Caleb Banks can stay healthy, this turns out to be an outstanding pick. Yeah. Vikings might win the division of Caleb Banks. That is like the literal only thing I'm worried about. Because I think Caleb Banks has really good tape and he's obviously a massive human being. He's six foot six, three to 25 pounds. Moves while he's a very extraordinary body type in terms of length and size and athletic ability, foot movement. No, sorry. Foot speed. And then obviously the foot injury is what's really worrisome. But he's supposed to be all ready to go by June. So if he's healthy on the field, great. Awesome pick. Can you tell what the Vikings were worried about? Like the spine of the defense, like Caleb Banks, defensive tackle is the first pick. The second picks, Jake Golda, a linebacker, the third picks, Dominic Orange, defensive tackle. Dude, they call him big citrus. Big citrus. Big citrus. Best nickname in the draft. Unreal. Yeah. Dominic Orange. So it's like they took a two defensive tackle. So a linebacker and his safety in the top 100. It doesn't include a tackle. I mean, if we look back on this draft, if we look back on this podcast in a year or two, and Caleb Banks is fully healthy, like Viking fans, you have every right to come back and be mad at us. But I think that's just the main worry. Golda is an interesting one in particular. He kind of played an overhang slot role for Cincinnati this last year, where he was like playing in space a lot. He's got like a big, well-built body type. But him in that defense, where you just never know where pressure is coming to Brian Flores' defense, you just kind of can trick the offensive lineman, trick the quarterback. I think he's a really interesting pick for them at that spot. So I think they've, like I said, they've been punished way too much, I think, for this first pick. And this could end up being a really good looking draft class. All right. My second to last pick is going to be the Atlanta Falcons who, you know, look, they didn't have a first round pick because they traded up for one last year, and that guy is now going through a lot of complicated legal issues. So not great way to start. However, with the second pick or with their second round pick, they got a guy who probably could have been a first rounder, Navian Tarell, who's the brother, his brother's on the team. Like, is that not good vibes? Is that recovering the vibes of draft a guy who has his own brother was in the draft room with him getting like that? That was very cool to watch, very heartwarming. So, you know, like, Tarell, he's a quarterback out of Clemson. He probably could have been a first rounder. So getting him in the second is a nice pick. And then they took DK's guy, Zachariah Branch, who's like a speedy little wide receiver who the jury's still out on if he can catch the football, if he can receive the football. But can he do it beyond the line of scrimp? Hand it off to him. You know what? He doesn't have to. I will say, I was a hater before the draft. I was like, 2019s, this will not work. The Falcons in Tua is one of the spots Zachariah Branch can work. Yeah. And also, we didn't mention that he got arrested and was basically like the police report for not moving from the sidewalk. The standing in the way of the side of cop on a sidewalk. And they charged him with like prowling, which is basically just like impersonating a fire hydrant. Hey, he's still there. And they were like, we told him to move and he didn't. He's taller than that. Yeah. No, I agree with Hyfus. So this is a great landing spot. I feel like he can be an extension of their run game. You know what I mean? He can screenplay things like that. I do think, again, I do think he has a skill set to get deep. So we'll see how that goes. All right, Hyfus. Oh, sorry, my cat. Wait, oh, you know what, man, should I take the Jaguars because my cat's here? There's four teams left, right? Yeah. I hate the Jaguars draft. I'm going to take the Rams. There we go. For all the Mishigas. Okay. What if he's good? What if Ty Simpson's good, dude? Well, we won't know until 2028. I guess. Or maybe Matt Stafford, you know, the 38 year old with the recurring back injury gets hurt in October, Ty Simpson. We don't talk about that, Hyfus. And everyone's like. We do not talk about that. No, is it ironic that the. They've got us trailer thing they can put it in. Exactly. Is it ironic that the person who missed time and really suffered down the stretch of the back injury last year was actually Ty Simpson at Matt Stafford? Yes, that's pretty funny. However, the fact that we're all just like, look, Matt Stafford, he made it through a whole season within a back injury. It's fine. It's like, well, Matt Stafford got hurt and they hadn't taken a quarterback and the Jimmy Grappler retired. We'd be like, why didn't the Rams address quarterback? That is absolutely what we'd be saying is how did Sean McVanessie's coming? Is it? Look, are the. They probably could have in the second round. They probably signed any number of backup. It's kind of like when we all wondered if the Niners would take Mack Jones at the third pick and then the Patriots just didn't trade up and he just fell to the 15. But the Rams probably could have done it later. However, I look, are the Seahawks and Niners, the Rams enemies celebrating this pick and being like, wow, the Rams didn't take a player we'll have to see. Yes. However. Did they piss off their MVP quarterback? Yes. Did they potentially drive a wedge between the most important player on the team and the coaching staff? Yes, seemingly so. Was he so concerned about it? He decided he'd try to lie and be like, I'm not excited about. Did they do this weird freaking like performance in the press conference and now everything is super weird and they have to keep going on TV to explain that they're not mad. Don't put it in the newspaper that I'm mad. Yes. Here's the problem. Here's the one problem happy. Everyone thinks that this was kind of a weird pick by the Rams when everyone thinks something about a quarterback. That does work quite a bit. And everyone agrees that this was kind of silly. And let me tell you, Ty Simpson has to play. Here's my thing. Let's say Matt Stafford tweaks his back during a game, leaves. How many drives does Ty Simpson have to look good till you guys are like, whoa, one and a half. Three. Yeah. One and a half. Doesn't even need one point five. If he has one good drive, then I go, all right, I need to see one more drive and then halfway through that drive after he converts a third and 12, I'll be like, fuck, how many they did it? How many completions does he have to make before I say, fuck? Yeah. Eight, four. Exactly. I'm like, it's just, you know what, I think that alone, I'm going to take the Rams. Yeah. By the way, I really like Max Claire too. I don't. It doesn't make any sense because they have like six other tight ends on the roster, but I really like Max Claire tight end of Ohio State. There's only two teams left. So DK, you just get the pick between the nine. Take the 49ers. Yeah. I arguably could have taken them quite a bit higher here, but I'm a hater. Dejan Stribbling, not great value, but another situation with like what happened to CX. I like the player just took him way too high. I think he'll be a good player. He blocks his ass off. I'd never seen so many pancake blocks from a receiver in my life. I don't think, I mean, legitimately five or six pancakes on his tape this last year, where he's just knocking corners on their ass. So that's really exciting. I think he feels a need for them in terms of what they want to do, the identity they have on offense. He comes in, he fills the Juan Jennings role. In fact, I saw somebody made this joke. You know how it was third in Juan? Now it's third in Dejan. Oh, fuck, that's good. Yeah. That's why they took him. You can't do that until you've seen him play. That's a nickname you earn. Yeah, that's fair. Very fair. Romelo Height, 25 year old edge rusher who's undersized and probably only plays on pass downs. You can't be undersized if your name is Height. Right. Sure. That's a good point. But he does bring the heat off the edge. And then Kailin Black, but one of the best, if not the best pass, running backs in this class. When I start saying this all together, this is why they're second to last. But I do think there's several contributors here. I just didn't love the value with hardly any of them. The guys, what's the name of the corner they took? Ephesians Priceock from Washington. Ephesians Priceock. All time name. I mean, my goodness. That sounds like a character in Fallout. It does. All right. And then. Mr. Irrelevant. Well, I guess I have to take the Jacksonville Jaguars who didn't have a first-round pick because they traded up for Travis Hunter last year. And they selected 10 players and I have never heard of nine of them. Let's just go through them real quick here. They took a 25-year-old, 60-year senior with 38 total catches in his college career. Anyone who needs six years to be a starter in college football, I like want to explain to me how you're a second-round pick in the NFL. Like 38 catches from a guy who played six years is. It's tough. Like I. In the words of Mike Talman, like, you know, Dookie Hauser must be a lot smarter than me. Right. Right. Nate Borkacher is who we're talking about here. They took Albert Regis, who is a sawed-off interior defensive lineman run stuffing type of guy. I really did like Emmanuel Pregnan save there. Well, this is the same thing. If the Jaguars had taken Emmanuel Pregnan in the second round and Borkershire in the third round, no one would have had a word to say. I would probably be looking at this draft class like, Oh, I get that. That's solid. Not certainly not last place. But that this is kind of how we do this. And then the one, the funny thing is Tanner Koziel. I'm probably messing up how to say that. That's name. Koziel. How could you get that wrong? Koziel. Koziel. Anyway, he, the tight end out of Houston, he's an interesting one. He's like a pure pass catcher. So he definitely sort of compliments Borkacher in the tight end world. He's a very high volume pass catcher. So he'll be interesting one to watch as well. Did he have more than 38 catches in six years? He did. Actually, in fact, I should look up how many he had. But yeah, he's like kind of a sleeper in fantasy, I guess you could say. Yeah, you could say that. He had 237 catches for 2234 yards and 24 touchdowns in his college. More than 200 more catches than the other 10. He had 94 catches two years ago and 74 this last year. He was basically the number one guy in the off in the offense for his respect. He went to Ball State for four years and then Houston for his final year. Well, that does it. That's the first inaugural draft draft. Wow. We almost, we almost two hours. Don't wait for the second round with the second round is where we come out where like it's, it gets to have guest pickers. And we draft GM's. Yeah, I just want to take this opportunity to say we we're going to draft the presenters during the NFL draft. Hell yeah. Should we feed the people in email or stuck around or just end the show at a mercy? We got a we got a little we got to do a palate cleanser. Yeah. Let's do one email and get out of here. I'll do one topic. We give you multiple small emails, which is a lot of people keep sending us great submissions. We're going to try to name a neighborhood and people are trying to figure out what what name a neighborhood name a neighborhood brand name. We're trying to name a valley. So a lot of people are sending us funny suggestions. You think you could name it neighborhood? Sure. Where do you live? I live in neighborhood. Which one? It's unfortunately it's called neighborhood. It's kind of funny. It's funnier that you said that. It's like when Bo Burnham named his comedy special what? What are you watching? What? They're so who's on first? Michael Emildon. Sorry, I'm touching my face now because the cat hair is all over my face. So Michael says this feels incredibly obvious, but the name of your community should change twice a year once at the end of February and once at the beginning of the day so that all the residents have to awkwardly explain it like you guys do and you try to capture SEO for this neighborhood guys, which there you go. And there you go. We're going to be back to ringer fantasy football show. The episode after this is going to be named Raker Fancy Football Show. So don't touch that dial. We're going. Don't you touch that dial? Don't touch that dial. Nothing else is changing. We got another suggestion from Ian who wrote. Eye bone. Breakfast is for children. Okay. I think that's fair. All right. You think that's fair. Breakfast is for children. As you know, I famously don't eat breakfast. The guy who eats a quesadilla every single day is like, yeah, that's childish. He breaks his fast at lunchtime with a quesadilla for 12 straight years. What a childish move. Somebody having eggs in the morning. Look, at least I'm not eating, you know, like dino nuggets or something. I guess. All right. In Pop Tarts, that's Kai. Ian says we have to name a street Cloudway. Cloudway. And it's Cloudway. Because we had the trivia question, how much does a cloudway? So it's like W-E-I-G-H. So it's like Cloudway. And that, I think, is the best one I've heard of. That's a deep cut. But we do talk about that one a lot. And it actually could get approved. Oh, that's easy. That's easy money. And I think it's a neighborhood. So it's a development. So we could have the opportunity to name multiple roads. I think Cloudway is legit. And more importantly, you would live on Cloudway and wouldn't give a shit it came from a fantasy football. It sounds like a femoral. It sounds happy place. It's like light, just like a cloud. It doesn't weigh anything. They also said, well, neighborhood, we could call it the two buildings, but that sounds like not a neighborhood. It sounds like a development. Ian said, and then I'm just was reading this email and he says, by the way, if you're interested, my dad claims he was the first person to drive a Ford Mustang. That is so specific. What the fuck? Was he like a test driver? Dude, I don't know. The story raises far more questions. You know what's great about dad? Is that I bet you he's told that to like a hundred people. So they're everybody probably knows that about him. They were all like sure. So there's a different guy who says he bought the first Mustang. That guy's famous. If you Google it, there's a lot that comes up. But this story is basically it's about driving it out, buying it. And my dad swore there was this newspaper article somewhere, but he had lost it. Nobody believed him. One day, I don't know why, but the mayor of their city comes to his house. And apparently the mayor was may or may not have been elected via some may or may not allegedly potential ties to maybe the mafia corruption. And the mayor whips out this newspaper article for the family with the dad driving the Mustang. And then he shakes the dad's hand and he thanks the dad for everything he's done. And then Ian writes that's mildly concerning because apparently I just send from muscle car mafia royalty. But anyway, his dad, there's a whole Netflix show in there. There's a lot going on. But I just was reading this about the development. I'm just like, yeah, wow. Fascinating. All right. Keep emailing us. There's a lot of great emails coming in. We're going to have to do a couple of summer mailbags. I am still down to take your take purges. Some of the take purges have been phenomenal. I still love that the ones we're getting that are excellent are also, I love people who've been emailing in about lifetime supply. Like you want a lifetime supply of great stories. Seems to be fraudulent, but there's some fun stories. Spoiler, you don't really get a lifetime supply of anything, but keep emailing in if you know those. It's like an insurance payment. It's like when I won that fucking car. Oh, it's a lease. It is. And specifically, I want to, if anyone has ever gone on the wheel of fortune, I have to pay taxes on this lifetime supply. That's what I'm being told. If anyone's gone on wheel of fortune, I want to know what the wheel of fortune's like. That's the next thread we're going to unravel here. So thank you, DK. Thank you, Craig. Thank you to everyone emailing in. Keep emailing us in on all these prompts. And wait, there was one other prompt that's been really good recently. Oh, hiccups. I want your hiccup cures. I've been very tickled by everyone. Did we ever list them? No, we're going to have to do a mailbag. Just so many. Oh, well, you're leaving the people on the lurch here. You'll have to get the hiccups. Well, they'll have to wait. So keep emailing hiccup cures. I'm very tickled by it. Thank you to Cam. Thank you to Boo. Thank you to Austin. Thank you to Carlos. Thank you to everyone for listening. But of course, thank you, Lord. Lord. Thank you, Billie Eilish. Her new documentary is coming out. Are you going to go see that in theaters? Very likely not. It's directed by James Cameron. Wow. What? Okay, maybe. How did that happen? He's friends with her mom. He's just doing that happen. Because they're both, they're into like sustainable farming. Of course. What? Yeah. So he just does Avatar and Billie Eilish documentary. Of course, he like invented some new camera. He came to CinemaCon and came out with Billie Eilish to talk about how he filmed this documentary in the coolest way ever. And then they showed footage and it kind of looked like every other musical documentary. But maybe it'll be awesome in the theater. But it's 3D. You know what's funny? It's 3D? It's 3D. Of course, it's James Cameron, dude. He fucking loves 3D. Can I ask a question? Yeah. What happened with 3D? I feel like that was a thing for a while. You go to the theater, you get the glasses. It's kind of fun. It never really took over. It's like, and now you don't really hear about it other than Avatar. It's really only James Cameron. It's cool. Like when you see Avatar 3D, it is cool. I saw one of the Harry Potter movies in 3D. That's a great call, DK. I saw the second Avatar theaters. I won't lie, brought a tear to my eye. And then I haven't thought about 3D ever since. It's kind of cool. I don't really get why it doesn't happen anymore. It's like, obviously, more of a pain in the ass to film, I guess. I think it's hard to do. I think James Cameron is really good at pulling it off and is really interested in it. And I don't know if the upside is worth the pain in the ass of doing it. Didn't they do one of the Star Wars remakes in 3D? Sometimes they have 3D versions. So here's my question. How do you film it? Because you know what's funny? Every 3D movie you've ever seen, you have to give the glasses back. You'd think that if 3D was doable, they'd put it on an iPhone filter on Snapchat or something. And instead of buying smart glasses, you could have dumb 3D glasses and imagine you could send 3D videos to your friends. But I guess you can't because they would have done that. Yeah, you have to wear something on your eyes for it to feel like it's coming out of the screen. You could just keep those shitty little red and blue things. What does that cost? Like a dollar? Yeah. What could it cost? A dollar, Michael? I don't know. They give it to you for free. There has to be a reason why no one does that. I don't know what it is. I'm not smart enough to know that. So the Android users can email in and be like, you've been able to do that on Android for 10 years and be like, oh, okay, not going to get one. But thanks. The funny thing about James Cameron was when we were at CinemaCon, they give out free waters, like just water bottles before you go in. And the only time that they were like typical plastic water bottles, like whatever, Aerohead or Aquafina or Dessani or something. But then one day, for one of the presentations, you sit down and it's all aluminum bottles. And I was like, why, what's going on here? Why did they like randomly switch? Did I say this story in the pod? No. Or probably. And then Matt Bell, he leans over to me and he goes, that means James Cameron is near. He does not allow plastic water bottles in any room, he said. Oh, because the aluminum are recyclable. Correct. Oh, that's cool. Which by the way, we don't recycle aluminum either, but I like the sentiment. I feel aluminum is a lot easier to recycle than plastic. Yeah. I can't confirm they were aluminum, but they were not plastic bottles. I actually, this is so random. Oh no, I left it downstairs. I had an aluminum plastic, a bottle I bought in the airport coming back from LA. I bought an aluminum Aquafina bottle and I had it on my desk and I didn't. I just left it downstairs. Can you imagine saying aluminium every time you had to say aluminum? Aluminium. Aluminium. Dude, they got some dumb ones. Organo. That's ridiculous. Organo. Oh, by the way, that was, we did get, oh, we got an email about you saying Jeremy. Oh yeah. Was it from Jeremy that said I was wrong? We got some Jeremy's that said you were right. Much more Jeremy said you were wrong, but the most important. Some of them said I was right. Liz agrees with you, DK, which I was shocked. Okay. So this is, this is now we're cooking. No, this is the core of it. Someone, a lingui, actually I should just pull up the email. A lingui. Someone pointed out that DK, what state is below Washington? Oregon. Say it again. Oregon. It's not Oregon. No one fucking says it. Not Oregon, but here's the thing. I say Oregon. Oregon. Yeah, because you're wrong. And you say what? You say two syllables? You say Oregon? Yeah, people who live in Oregon say Oregon. Like a kidney. Like a kidney. Like an Oregon. Yes, correct. So the Jeremy thing that we discovered, someone pointed out, it is underneath the umbrella of there is a regional dialect to the Pacific Northwest or even the entire West Coast. You East Coasters say it all funky. It's like how you say tournament. What do you say? Tournament. Yeah. Yeah. That's, you know, what are you? Tournament. A tournament. You're like hanging on syllables and what's fishing bait called the little hook? A worm? Fishing bait. No, sorry. It's a lure. Oh, lure. I got that wrong. Fuck. I meant the tour. How do you see? I meant tour. Tour in like Chicago. Tour. Tour. How do you say it? Tour? Tour. Like TOR. It's like how people in the South call oil, all. Get some oil. But the Jeremy thing, it's not like a disagreement. It's like literally like where you're from. Yes, it is a regional dialect. But I didn't know the Oregon thing. I say when you're like Oregon, it's like, but in these coats, it's Oregon or Oregon, but you say the wreck. It's like three syllables. I say three syllables, Oregon. Your brother went there. What does he say, Craig? I'll have to get him on the phone. Yeah. I'll have him send a voice. I could be wrong. I'm projecting how people in Oregon say it. Maybe they say it differently than me. I don't know. But everyone I've ever talked to says Oregon, Oregon. Like the Oregon, like, like internal Oregon. Well, this has been scintillating. Yes. You know, maybe we should just let people say things how they want to say things. I don't know. We got to get Jeremy on the fucking pod. My God, Jeremy. Don't ask him one football question. The germ. Goodbye, everyone. Okay. Must be 21 plus and present in select states for Kansas and affiliation with Kansas star casino or 18 plus and present in DC, Kentucky or Wyoming gambling problem called 1 800 gambler or 1 800 my reset call 1 888 789 777 777 or visit ccpg.org slash chat in Connecticut or visit MD gambling help.org in Maryland. Hope is here. Visit gambling help line MA.org or call 800 327 5050 for 24 seven support in Massachusetts or call 1 877 8 hope and why or text hope and why in New York for Louisiana call 1 877 770 7867