Someone had to say it ft. Morgan Stewart

I'm a god I'm just playing with them now. Yeah. I'm a god I'm just playing with them now. Yeah. I'm so glad you're looking at me. Thank you so much. Do you look in? We're seeing this f***ing body. I can't watch. Being a podcaster is not easy. Oh my god. It's so not easy. I always say like steer the train or to the bus. The bus this is. No. I'm the group off the traps. I think people find you so refreshing with your honesty. You're not being mean. You're just saying what the f*** is she wearing? And not only does she look like f***ing, she's paying people to make her look like f***ing correct. Who the f*** is dressing her? You love to know people's signs. Love. What's your rising? Do you know your rising? I don't. How have you been on TV for 50 years and you don't know your rising sign? You could Google it. Do Astro chart, Chloe Kardashian will get it right now. I got pregnant two and a half months after I gave birth. Crazy. And I love that. He was the gas pig in the room. No, no. You got that. You want it? You want to keep that up? Are we good on Carmel? Like why do they keep testing us so much? I don't know. I'm like we're good people, right? Right? We don't even have the freedom to crumble. Whoa, that was, are you gonna cut that? That was crazy. The freedom to crumble is your book type. You know. I am so excited to have Miss Morgan Stort on Chloe in Wonderland. I'm so happy to be here. Thank you. Oh my gosh. Well, you look like a fucking Barbie. Well, can I tell you I told you this off camera and I'm gonna let everyone know now. I knew. First I wanted to be on so badly because I knew the lighting was not going to fucking play around. No, we don't play here. No, I knew. It is late to walk around with all of this. I would. I was like, where does the budget go? Lighting. Yeah. Lighting. I literally have been recording my, whatever were early in in my podcast. The lighting is so terrible. It's like recording at like a right aid. Why? There's no budget yet. There will be. That's terrifying. I write it. When I'm so excited for your podcast, I think it's gonna be really good. Not to plug that so fucking early. I care. I love desperation. Can you, I really was so thirsty about that. I always get questions like, how did you and I meet? And I think I have a memory. Okay. But I don't know if it's like the real memory. I don't know. How did we meet? So my version is more through like Rob because Rob was friends with Roxy. Yes. So it's the reality. That's the reality. Okay. I was like, is this true? But this was pre, I think you even having the show. Yes. So Rob, my brother had a best friend named Roxy that he went to Buckley with. So like elementary school. And then college. Then college. And they were besties. Yes. And then Roxy became friends with you. Yeah. Or first year of college. We were very close. Yes. So that's what I remember. I met you with Rob. Right. And then you and I have like always been like digital friends. Digital friends. But like big ass supporters of one another. Like I would be like, yeah Morgan's my friend. Yeah. But they're like, when have you seen her look? Oh, never. But we're best friends literally talking about. We don't hang. We don't talk. But we we DM. That's my favorite kind of friendship. Completely. I don't fucking have the energy for a high maintenance friendship. Also people are adults now adults. We don't have time. We're really tired. Not only that. People that don't check their DMs or don't respond. You're not that busy. No, you're not that busy. You're not that busy. Sometimes it takes me because I take social media breaks. But once I'm on there, I'm checking everything. I'm responding to everyone. But also don't put this much pressure on anyone. Ever. Ever. Like where have you been? When are we doing? Shut the fuck up. Like we have jobs, we have kids, we have relationships, we have families. Also even going out. I cannot go out more than once a week. Yeah. If I want to function. Agreed. I had some friends in town last week. I went out three, three different nights. I thought I went to Coachella and like, you know, you go. I go. I go. I go. I go. I go. I go. I go. I go. I go. I go. I go. I go. I go. I go. I go. I go. I go. I go. I go. I go. I go. I go. I go. I go. I go. I go. you're like, we have a job, you have multiple jobs. Don't we all, I feel like. Literally. Yeah. Yes. Oh my God. No, and that's so funny, because I was even thinking on the way. Okay, we met with Rob, but then I think even when I was doing rich kids, I don't think we even really cross paths. We literally were digital then, too. Yeah. Super. Yeah. So here we are. I loved it. Yeah. Well, hi, Bestie. Hi, Bestie. I know we're going to make this. We're going to, once a year, we'll do like an in person. We'll do this. Six months in advance. We'll like make a plan. And then like these could be our yearly situations. Did you get that? She was. Okay, I didn't even have to ask. But can we get panel lighting? You know, we need to do, bring this guy. Why was I going to say we need to do it here and then put a logo or something? Done. Because I rather not. We could switch these out. You know, my mom does that. And she's like, can I use your studio space? And I'm like, sure it was someone up, but she like switches these out, she'll say, like, you're lighting. I'm like, no, whatever you say, Chris, Jenner. By the way, yeah. She really ledger. What is it even like to have a mom that I caught it? I can't. Well, she I will say I have an iconic mom, but Chris, can I tell you the most random fact that just came to my mind? What? You guys. So I haven't, I have had an older brother, seven years older than me. I was going through two months ago, his yearbook, Kim and my brother were in the same kindergarten class at El Rodeo. I'm telling you Kim would remember too. How we, I saw we were looking in the book and she, I was like, is it? And I was like, there's not more than one Kim Kardashian. That was the most random feeling. She looks just like Chicago and her. You'd be like, is that Chicago? They look like twins. Like twins. But that was so random. That is so random. Yeah. So I guess like energetically we've been circling each other for many lives. Very, Beverly Hills. Very, I know. Very. Very. So for you Miss Morgan, you've been on reality TV since 2014. Yeah. Jesus 2014. That's so long ago. Like so long ago, it's so crazy that I even like people still remember it. Because we did what? So we did four seasons. Yeah. Remember when we started they were like, we're going to put you after the Kardashian. So you have a shawntown. That's what they said. They were like, you're not going to survive. But if we put you on, you guys were nine on Sundays or ten. We were nine. It was nine east. Yes. Nine east. Okay. So we were on directly after you. And I remember thinking like if the only shot we have is to only be after this one show, like we're fucked. We ended up doing four seasons. And then that was the end of that. Why do you think it stopped? Because it was great. And it's still oh my god. I think it is so funny. Don't you see the clips on I was so ugly. It's like to watch my God. What was I doing in there? But I love to go to go up. I would rather be better now than then. No, that's true. Also like my biggest advice to like young girls is really to stay as ugly as you can for as long as you can. It's true, right? Because if you're beautiful at 25, you're a dog at 35. That's true. You need to be ugly, ugly, ugly and then be like, oh, all the pretty. It's like when you had pretty friends when they were like 12. No one was pretty at 12. No. Kim Kardashian is the only pretty 12 year old and she's maintained it. Yes. That's the only person. I'm not saying that because that's your sister. It's just a fact. No, I mean, it's the truth. I say it to her all the time. It sucks. So it's hard to like, you know, be pretty when you're young and then also pretty when you're old. Yeah. So the globe is good. Yeah. Yeah. But Rich was, yeah, I think it ended because the I think management or whoever was working there at the time was like, once I got married, they were like, we don't know where else the show is going to go. It was crazy. It was a mistake. It was a mistake. Yeah. I still think it stands like I stand behind it. I think now like people also miss the, I'm going to say the older versions of reality TV because it was so real and it was so ridiculous. And now everyone has to be so thoughtful about every single thing they say, like, I still film, but it's not the same filming. Like even what we're so afraid to shoot or to go to certain, like, are we offending someone? Are we doing something like the overthinking of everything is just not normal. You don't come across that way. Oh, thank you. I will say, like I obviously still watch the show. I love it. Thank God it's still in the air. And you feel very the same way. Obviously, like the sets are better lit. And it's just like a different time in your life. But everything still feels like we're getting a true glimpse of you guys. You guys are, but it's way more confined. Like I loved when we could be more free and like go to real stores and do like little things that I think just allowed for a better banter, better, I just miss that. The old authenticity of it all. But could you do that now because you also have risen in fame? I know. It's sort of both. You can't like just walk around really. Can you? Not really. No. Yeah. But still I miss all those. I know. I miss all those. I know. Do you miss taping reality TV? I think what you just said is probably I haven't thought about it in depth really. I think I would have preferred to maybe stay on two more seasons, three more seasons to really figure ourselves out. I think things would have evolved in a really good way. And I feel like if I were to do reality TV now, I'm so protective of like my marriage, children, as you know, like being a mom, I don't want to just like, I couldn't be as free as I wanted. So I think it's probably better not to do that. So I miss the days where I could just talk shit and talk freely and like be on my camera and just feel good about it. I've gotten so in my own head about everything just from everyone. Right. And like I envy you and like I see the things you're doing and you're just commenting or even it could be as silly as not even your voice when you're literally typing out your feelings about red carpet looks and I'm dying like you cackling on the other end of my phone just because I'm reading it in your voice. You're so good at all of that stuff. Thank you. I feel like, I mean, your television star, then you did a podcast. I always felt like I was going to be on TV and then maybe have a podcast because not everyone can be on TV. Right. But everyone can have a podcast. I don't think so. And I think you're right. I'm starting to like change my mind on that. But I feel like there was something like really accessible about having a podcast that I mean everyone could have one by meaning you can set it up yourself and do that. I don't think all of them can sustain. Like I think you are a personality and no matter what platform that is, I think it will resonate. Thank you. You've really instilled the confidence in me. It's been going well. We had to I also think like a lot has happened over the last three years. Obviously the show's got canceled three years ago. The shows I was doing on E a lot happened personally in my life. And I was like mentally and physically not in a place to take anything on. And actually in the midst of that, I shot a pilot and I was so physically anxious on the day. I'm not settled. I didn't feel right after my kids for a really long time. I don't know if you went through that like physically, just not stable. I thought weird. And I remember thinking like, why is this not easy? Why is this not working out? And you know, we did the bullshit. Like we pitched it to everyone. Everyone was like, we love you. You're so funny. But it's just not the time. Talks hard now or whatever the fuck they said. And I was like, okay, go fuck yourself. And then literally eight months ago, something my agent was like, are you ready for a podcast? And I was like, well, I guess TV's not working out. So let's do it. I've found like, this is definitely the right medium. I think so. Yeah. And I think everything happens for a reason. And you have been through a lot. Yeah. And I think that's also hard. Sometimes you can't see it for yourself. But it's you're almost in a place that could have been super damaging for you. And they could have, and I'm not saying all producers are like this, but sometimes they would pray on that. Yeah. And you lost your father three years ago. Yeah. Yes. You know what that's like? It is awful. And I was in no place. I mean, I was 19. And thank God there was no cameras around me. Oh my God. But you know, I think it's probably the biggest blessing you didn't do that because I do remember even when I did my show, one of my producers would then make me sit in the room and do interviews about my dad. And I would be sobbing. And they're like, you can't leave until you're done with these interviews. And the fuck? But that's how it is. And when you're also young, and especially back then, now I don't think they would do that to anyone. No, no. And it was therapeutic after. Right. Okay. So you felt better like getting all that out. I, yeah, I did. And but at the time I was so angry as a fuck, why are we talking about this? And I recently saw you said that he was this on the show that you said he hasn't come to you in a dream? No. My dad hasn't. Because yours? Once. Only once. But it's, and, but it's also terrible. Almost like he's almost maybe protecting you because I feel like when I was in the dream, I was like, oh my god, like, you know, this person feels very real to you. And you're interacting with them as though they're alive. But then you wake up and you're so disoriented and you're like, wait, wait, come back. So it's almost like he knows how sensitive you are. And he's probably like, but you should speak to my medium. He will blow your mind. I met with Teresa Caputo. She's just legendary. And she says, like, I can't just pick up on you. Like if there's other people in the room, I might, like, their person might come through and I might pick up. And here's just like whatever, whatever. And she picked up on so many people in the room. It was so beautiful. Everyone was like sobbing in a great way. She said, my dad, everyone receives things differently. And just because my dad doesn't come to me in a dream, he's coming to me in other ways. Other ways. 100%. But do you have you been told what signs to look for at all? No, but I like the heart. So she was like, do you see, he says that he sends you hearts everywhere. And I see hearts, all this, like there could be hearts like a rock shaped heart that like shouldn't be there like in a tree. Okay. And then right, I didn't say this to you, but right after one of my girlfriends dropped me off a late Christmas gift. And she gave me such a tiny little heart diamond ring. It was the most random thing. And it was red. Like it was none of these colors. And I was like, it was just so random. And I was like, the fucking heart. It was so weird. And that was after we did the show, but it was all okay. Okay. I'm going to set you up with him. Yes. I think you will. It'll be really unbelievable. 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So my mom was married before my dad had my brother. Then my mom obviously married my dad had me. So we had different dads. My parents were married when my dad died. And then my brother's dad is still alive and their friends. And then he died in July. And I remember I was on in Tuscany with my husband and some friends and she called me. She's like, I have bad news. Your brother has pneumonia. And I vividly remember being like, is he going to die? Or something about dying came into my mind. Like very strongly. And I had always thought like, okay, this person is going to be somebody I'm going to have to look after when my mom is, he needs care, right? He has people in his head telling him to kill himself every day. Like it's horrific. This disease. And I remember just having that thought and she called me the last night of my vacation two days later, hysterically crying and was like, your brother died. And I was like, I was like, oh, but my dad just died. Right. Like, that's inconvenient. We can't just have everyone dying. This is crazy. No, it's not. It's not left because it's fucking crazy. I know you just position it so humorously. I'm like, oh, and they're probably laughing at me right now being like, oh, yeah, but yeah, it's been a really heavy time. And I've only been with my husband married for five years. And it's like, we've also gone through so much in a short time. You have. Yeah. But also beautiful, beautiful, because it shows how strong your marriage is. Yeah. You know, he's obviously a writer die for you. Oh, he's been amazing. Yeah. It's been, I mean, some of the most surreal. We were just at my dad's funeral. Now we were just at my brother's funeral. And I don't even know. And two kids. And the two kids. I mean, that already is so much for. Being there for your mom. Being there for my mom. And even now, like, she's having a really rough time as expected, but she's been so strong and she's gotten up and gotten dressed every day and really like, treaged ahead. So now to see her not feeling, she's manifesting it physically. She's not feeling that well today specifically. She's at the doctor right now. And that even I'm like, well, she gonna be okay. Like is everyone dying? Right. It's very strange. Well, I'm assuming you have so much trauma from it. And now you're going to hear anything. And that's going to trigger you. So that's where your head's going to go first. Right. And that's the thing. And then I was like, should I have had more kids? Because how nice is it that you have so many siblings to be around for whatever happens? Right. You know, I have two, which is, I think, enough. Like, you know, it's nice to have a big support system. I was just talking about this. It really is. So I have my two. Yes. Tristan and I were like in and out of being in a relationship when we chose to have Tatum. Right. But really, it wasn't like, we weren't even in like a great place, me and Tristan, but I was like, I'm doing this more for true. Like I need her to have a sibling. That was the right choice, by the way, obviously. It was. But now I'm like, I have a girl in the freezer. Do you do it? Do I do it? Do I have the bandwidth? I don't know. Do you do? But like my mom had six. I'm like, if she could do it, we can do it. I know. That's crazy. I think you. That is crazy. So in the, do you, but you wouldn't have to carry? I wouldn't carry just because. Do it. Yeah, just that because I would do. Well, yeah, I just don't, I don't know why. No. I know with Tatum, I was unable to carry. I haven't checked recently, but I'm assuming same thing. But with Tatum, they said it was too high risk. And with her, she's my only girl embryo. So they might suggest the same thing. But either way. I think you're gonna have another kid. Why? Because you're... I don't know. I just got a little chit. Like I just felt like when you said girl, I was like, I see true having a sister. I just feel like girls need sisters. Do you have a sister? I don't have a sister. Oh, you need a sister, especially like the more like in life now, I wish so badly because girls are fucking nasty. Girls are nasty. And as you get older, it's harder to trust people and like people. Just like people. Yeah. Because people are weird. People are weird. People are fucking fucked up. And fucking insane. Yeah. So I was like, I really wish row. But then I was like, I, if I don't have an embryo, but I don't want to happen. I physically don't want to do that again. It's a lot. It's a lot. But I agree with what you said. How afterwards the mind fuck it is mentally on you. And people don't give women enough tolerance and grace for the transition afterwards. I literally was like up here and then down here. I was not sad, but I physically my thyroid totally bottomed out. I've said that so many times I want to kill myself. But it's like, oh my God, how many times can I talk about this fucking thyroid issue? But I was like, shh, like I had tremors. I could not sit still because my body was so off. And even like now I'm very sensitive if like I don't eat a certain amount when I was working on rich kids. I ate like nothing and had a coke and did 12 hour days. Now I'm like, so being young, I know. But then I know so many girls my age that are like, have no problem. I'm like, is there not bread on the table? I'm gonna die. I'm gonna die. Just because like my assistant's literally like, I'm like, do we have packs of protein? I can suck on right now. Yes, no, I'm the same. But I'm more like, someone get me a dairy queen. Yes, dad. I told my mother-in-law, I was coming on. She said, I love her. I love her. She's self-conscious. I love her. She's, they are just, to me they're not even like famous people. Like obviously he's quite fit. They're just so fucking normal. Yeah. You eat and pie or do whatever the fuck they're doing together. Like he calls her mom, she calls him dad. Hey mom, it's so cute. It's so cute. I've obviously been around them in very intimate settings. They're just like normal texts in, like they're just love it. Very sweet. And my mother-in-law, I got so lucky with her. She is so supportive of me, so nice. I don't know. I mean, I don't know if I'm going to be that nice to my son's crush. I don't know either. I don't think so. Yeah. I think it just depends on the girl. Who it is? I don't think anyone's going to be good enough. I know. Let alone, like, are you giving her your shit? No way. But you also have to get on board. Yeah. Because the sun can leave. The sun will leave. Yeah, so you have to like, keep them close. Yeah, and be like, I love her. But hopefully you really will. Wow, that really stresses me out. I know. And then we have to do with their mom. And then who's going to do the wedding stuff? But I think in our position, we trump that right. Like, no, that mom's not going to plan anything. Because they don't have a clue. Yeah. No, I just think we do it. OK, good. And we just dominate. Yeah. And you just are like, I will take this stress off of you. And I will pay for all of it. Because I don't need a purple orchid in the image. No. I'll kill myself. No. No lifelong photos like that. Yeah. Horrible. Horrible. I know I'm stressed out about that. Yeah. Well, you have some time. You feel like people still associate you with that Morgan story. Do they think that's like all you are, if that makes sense? I think even more now. Because obviously we did rich kids. And now my life, I think, to people feel so much bigger and real in a way. Like, a camera's not around. So it's not performative. I think people have seen me evolve. I don't want to answer that question. I think coming back to the podcast, people are going to see like, oh, shit, life has really happened to this girl. Like, we know her one way. And that's very much a part of who she is. But she's now come out the other side of some really heavy shit. And she's more grounded, more serious. I think people think I'm a little probably meaner or less caring than I am. Really? Yeah. Why do you think that? Or maybe I have a false version, like, vision of who I am publicly. I think you do. OK, good. So I seem nice. Yeah. OK, good. I think people find you to be like so refreshing with your honesty. Thank you. Because that doesn't, like, that's even something I miss about myself. Like, it's just not there anymore, because everyone wants to talk shit and do that. People are like, finally, like, someone who's still not afraid to be honest. And you're not being mean. You're just saying what the fuck is she wearing? She looks like shit. Awful. But like, she does. She does look like shit. Yes. And not only does she look like shit, she's paying people to make her look like shit. Correct. Why is that happy? Emily Blunt, I love her. I love her so much. She's our queen. She's coming out. Who the fuck is dressing her? I don't know those things. I hate really just, it's so easy. And sometimes I'm like, should I be a professional stylist? You don't want to do that. I don't want to do that. No, you do. That's hell. Yeah. And someone leaves me. I'll be like, yeah, you're like, are you dumb? What's wrong with you? Yeah. No, I think people love watching you. Thank you. But what I mean is I think that people, what I'm excited about you for is that people get to see you more multifaceted and I think from what I think is people are like, oh, Morgan lives this very cushy life. And she loves fashion and blah, blah, blah. But those things are all true, but there's also 20 other things about you that I think, especially like you're such a hard worker. And I don't think people realize that about you. This, we, okay. No, but like even like I remember when you did Morgan's Stewart sport. Yes. Am I right? Yes. Okay. And like you were like hustling and trying and doing that. Then you're like, you know what? I'm going to scrap this. Let me revamp it. And then Rengali. Yeah. Rengali. But you know what's so funny? Rengali. Everybody says Rengali. Rengali. And I, if I didn't, if it wasn't mine, I would also say that. And sometimes I'm like, we should call it that because it feels very exotic. Rengali. Rengali. How you do things, you put your heart and your soul into them. And I think if you were just some like pillow princess, you would just be letting, you wouldn't care. You'd be like, whatever. I just want to have something for the sake of saying I have it. Right. But you're in there. You're hustling. Yeah. And you're all those other things too. You can still have this beautiful life. Mm-hmm. You can still be a mom of two. Right. You can still being a podcaster is not easy. It's not, oh my god. It's so not easy. Having a guest on is insane. No, it's insane. It really is. Like, I'm like, I have to talk to Morgan for an hour and it sounds smart. No, it's hard. I know it really is. No, it really is. And I'm so happy that it because I get stressed out for the host because I'm like, you don't want to ambush, but you're also like, it is so hard to talk to anybody for an hour. But just just like to, I always say like, steer the train or to the boss, whatever the fuck this is. No. And the core off the tracks. I've been like, listening sometimes. And I'm like, that's great. And then I'm like, oh, shit. I'm supposed to ask another question. Another question. I don't know. But also it's also abnormal to have to stay in conversation. I talked to my own mother on my podcast two weeks ago and I was like, are we getting a fucking break? No. I need to take a break. I need to take a breath. I'm exhausted. I just gather my thoughts. Got. What did we just talk about? Like in my head, I'm like, okay, check, check. Check. No. Can I tell you honestly prior to what we just started talking about? I don't remember what we were saying. I don't have a clue. It would talk to about. No, I black out because I'm like. Yeah. Okay. We got this. It's 22 minutes. Okay. I know. I know. It's freaking me out. And I'm thinking, like, you have to come on my podcast and I'm like, what the fuck else are we going to talk about? Well, then you get to be stressed and I don't. Exactly. You're right. I am surprised that you have that negative perception of yourself from what you think the public thinks. Because I see something. Don't you? I feel like, like, even Alexa was like, have you seen her TikTok? She's so fucking funny. I love you. I think. I'm going to clear up ankle gate, ankle boot gate. Enkel boots are okay if they're covered, but you can't wear a skirt in an ankle boot. It doesn't look good on anybody. No. No one. You don't need to have cancels, but you will. You will. Yeah. I do have ankle boots, but I wear them under like slacks or jeans. Like, because you don't want the lines up here, but I do agree. You cannot. That's very, like 2009. Very. Like, people would wear ankle boots. It's also like 1999. Ooh. Is that, I don't even know how old I was at that. But it doesn't matter. I think I was 15. Yeah. That's a good math. I couldn't even, if you gave me 10 grand. I only know that I was 16 in 2000. That's all I know. Okay. That's all I know. And I don't know why. Okay. I have to admit something. I have fully become one of those people who is obsessed with their dog, like truly disgustingly obsessed. Since getting my new puppy peppermint, I swear my camera roll is basically just photos of her. 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Right? So it's manageable is. But yeah, obviously there's if there's any sort of like something that's like inaccurate or people are making nasty comments, I will say I've been pretty lucky where I haven't gotten a lot of it. People won't say it to my face and they won't write it. But they'll talk about it behind my back. It's more of that. Yeah, I definitely don't want to have for me number one is a calm nervous system. So anything that's going to derail that I don't do well with. Do you feel the need to set the record straight if there is something false about you? I would. I would. I would say yeah. I think it really depends on what it is. I think I know I've learned to like let things go because if you start getting into the weeds with people who already have a certain perception of you, that's not real. Right. Why even? It's like trying to be friends with somebody who doesn't like you. Yeah, they're already committed to that. They're committed to that and I don't care. And also I live in my truth, which is I have a wonderful life. I know I'm a really good person. There's people in my life now that I feel like I distance with that like our hell bent on thinking this person is not a good person. And I just now I'm like, okay, yeah, we're not meant to be in each other's lives. That's fine. That is the beauty of getting older. Totally. You're like, and there's not going to be a lot. I'm not going to argue with an idiot. We're good. We're good. You want, however you want to think about me, that's totally fine. Do you think you've always been so deeply self-aware? Yes. Always. I've always had a really good sense of self. I know my faults. I know my flaws. I'm not like, oh, I don't do that. I maybe don't realize how strong I come across sometimes and maybe unintentionally mean, like dealing with certain things if I'm like talking to my husband. Sometimes I'm a little sharp and I don't mean to be that way. But I know pretty well. This is a good thing about me. This is not such a good thing about me. And I can work on X, Y, and Z. You're someone you love to know people signs. Love. And you love an energized type of person. Do you follow that intuition, even if it's someone's sign? Do you really, okay, you're on the cancer? If you're like, you're a cancer, I know these traits about you and do you go off of that? Yeah, I feel like for me, it's more like if I have a difficult time speaking to somebody or not getting along with them, I usually ask their sign more. The only sign that sticks out that I'm like, okay, this is challenging is Pisces. But as of lately, as of late, I've really started to like, I have a lot of Pisces I really love. So I'm evolving. But yes, I do think the signs are very accurate. Every like Pisces and I get along so fucking well. Cancer and Pisces, but what's your rising? Do you know your rising? I don't. How do you not know? How have you been on TV for 50 years and you don't know your rising sign? What was twist in? Pisces. My dad's a Pisces. He's my brother's a Pisces. The twins are Pisces. Rob is very funny too. Rob is very funny and Rob is very emotional, which is a Pisces. Male Pisces are very different than female Pisces. I think every female Pisces have had difficulty, but Rob weirdly is one of the funniest people I've ever met. No, he is. And dry. Yes. You're like, it's really bad. He's so fucking funny. Yeah, and that's so funny. From when we were 15, he's like, no, you look bad there. He was just always very, yeah. He's so fucking funny. He really is. Do we know it? I knew. Fucking, what is it? Gemini rising? So all your emotions and like how you project to the world is Gemini. No, I'm Gemini. Stop. And can I tell you when you have, listen to me. I'm Gemini's son. My husband is Gemini Moon. When your moon sign is the same as someone's son sign, you're very compatible, which is why we've probably had like this digital like courtship romance for all these years because there's an energy. What's the rising? Sun and cancer, moon and Gemini rising has been an Aquarius. Oh my god. A glorious thing about an Aquarius. Air sign. So you have a lot of air in your chart. Aquarius, both of my kids are Aquarius. No Aquarius. Aquarius people who have Aquarius placements are meant to be famous. Here you are. And Gemini also. What are the kids do? What's that, when Hailey did it, the other day almost killed myself. I was like, oh, I conned. What's the Venus? And then I'm done. Thin Pisces all die. Jessica's a Pisces, but we still hired her. It's in cancer. What's the Venus mean? How you love. Oh, but cancer. I can see that I would love like a cancer. And how you are with your family and your friends and how you're nurturing and stuff like that. Oh, yeah. It's, I wish I was more not. No, embrace it. So many few people are like that. I have to. But God, sometimes I'm like, fuck, I'll just die for everyone. And no one will die for me. It's crazy. I love how much you know about that. And I just know that's the person you are. And by the way, I can't believe you're Gemini Moon. I don't know why I've never looked up your sign. I don't know what this all means. But yeah, let's talk about motherhood and like parenting in L.A. Oh, God in L.A. Yeah, yeah, isn't it? It's so crazy. I don't know why I feel like when I maybe I'm not watching the right ones, but I don't think people ask you enough about motherhood. And I don't know if that's off limits to you. Not at all. I think what it is is I don't, I'm not like that mom that's like leading with her children. They're around. They're part of my life. Obviously, every day all day. But I'm not like, look how cute my kid is. Yeah. I throw it up naturally. So I think there's some people that like aren't even sure if I have kids. Stop. I mean, so funny. Or I don't lead. Yeah, I get it. It's the best thing I've ever done. It's the hardest thing I've ever done. They're very close in age. Yeah, they are. They're very close in age. So I got pregnant two and a half months after I gave birth. Crazy. It was, but not intentionally not. It was we weren't even like done and I was pregnant. I was like, what? And I love that he was the gas pig in the room. You said that. You got to keep that up. I literally got pregnant in May both times. I found out with my son, June, like late June. And I just remember like I peed on the test. I looked away for a second and Jordan was like, don't pretend it's positive. Like you're just tired. We have a newborn baby. Right. And I looked away for a split second. It was on the floor and I looked back and I was like, it's positive. He's like, no, bitch, it's not. I was like, no, it is. We took a hundred. Stop. And I remember going to the doctor and she's like, you're due February 17th. And I was like, no, that's row. She's like, no, that's same. Same. So I was like, no, rows of 16 that think you're confusing. And she was like, no, I was there. So she is. No. And I was like, I can't have another baby. I had had all these thir... And I was in literally, I was in Napa in the beginning of June before I had found out. My I found out my thyroid stuff was really effed up. I was pregnant. I didn't know it. And we went to like, yeah, as one does. I was drinking all weekend. I remember feeling like I was withdrawing from meth. I could not sit still. I couldn't. I was so panicked and physically unwell. And finally, they were like, oh, you're pregnant. So I had row, got pregnant with Gray. I had rows first birthday party from eight to 12 and at one 30, we checked into the hospital. And I gave birth, stop to my son at 10 o'clock that night. So are they born? They're one year to the day or one year and a day, excuse me. Oh, my gosh. She's the 16th and he is the 17th of February. That's like storming air, one's February first, one's February second. That's so crazy. It's crazy. I feel like myself as of four months ago. Oh, well, that's good. Yeah, I took a walk. Is it me three? He's going to be four and she's going to be five. Wow. And I really, I mean, you just can't cheat the body. I was a lot. No. Physically, it was so much on me. And I like, I didn't feel well for a long time. Do you believe in peptides? I, by the way, I'm signing up. I just had so many tests. Okay, but I had had some blood sugar stuff. So I was worried to start. I would be shooting shit in places I didn't know. I had it. I do. I don't want to feel bad though. Yeah. No, these are so like they take your blood and they, so it's personal to you. The ones I do. Oh, okay. I didn't know that. I think peptides would make you feel better. I want to feel better. And I also want to like, I don't want to look as, I feel like I look tired too. Yeah, you look beautiful. Thank you. But it's, I get how you feel. Yeah. I'm exhausted all the time. All the time. And I'll say like, if I'm not feeling right, I'm like, God, I'm still feeling so tired and I'm like, okay, let me up this. Like he will, he's great. Shout out to Dr. Dr. Tristan. I mean, you look, you look great. So thank you. I'm like, wait, we forgot about the kids and the family. Oh, right. We're talking about our aesthetic. Our aesthetic. Oh, the kids. I love the kids. The children. We love the children. No, but I will answer your question about parenting in LA. Yeah. I'm getting my daughter into kindergarten now. Oh my gosh. Big step. It is fucking crazy. Oh my gosh. It is. No, no, no, no, no, no. It is, we didn't, we just showed up, right? Like our mom just relayed. You had to do look all the essays. Yeah. First of all, my husband did it. I can't write it grammatically. Correct sentence. That's crazy. Fucking nuts. Six schools, six interviews, six solo interviews with row, six group interviews with row. That's insane. Six different schools of events. It is wild in these streets. So hopefully she fucking gets in or she can't live at my house anymore. No, it's fine. Or you're kicked out of everything. Yeah. But the pressure they put on these little kids in a little crazy pool to like draw family, write her name. I'm like, I did not write my name until I was like nine. Do you do carpool? Of course. Well, I mean, I bring my kids. I don't have like other people in the cars that we make. Yeah. Yeah, just like drive them. Yeah, I drive them and make them dinner. I'm like, very that way. You are. I am. How cute. Yeah, people don't think that about me. But I do make them dinner. I'm very hands on that way. Lunch in the morning, not every morning. But I really try to be like, lunches in the middle of the day. Well, I'm saying like, I make lunch. No, just kidding. No, just kidding. Just kidding. What do you love to cook? I cook everything. I make like all do roasted chicken. I'll make lamb chops. I'll make pasta. I love that. Like just like very like easy, but like healthy stuff. No, but great. Yeah, I know you loved that throw a party and like I love the decor. You need to come to a part. I do. I'm going to give a lot of warning, a lot of judging and we're going to get you to a party. Done. Done. That I can do. Yeah, I love the looks that good, even better. Yeah, but I love see where is that place that you throw Jordan studio? I love it. So he's like a two story like office studio space and I do all that myself. No, I know. I do all that myself. I don't know, but I could tell like it's I because you're I know from the way you're posting it. I yeah, I like you're so proud and I like. Yeah, it takes. I've set that table myself. It is. That's really where like I get turned on. I know. Yeah, I know. Like that's still forks are straight. I mean, we use the same. I got like these Christmas plates and I use them every single year, but I start with like I go and get the tablecloth and then we do like the floral inspo. I mean, it's only like 35 people max, but the fact that you know how to so many people don't know how to do that. Like my mom taught me how to do that stuff. So I get so turned on when there's someone else that knows how to do that stuff. That's like a generational thing. Yeah, like so weirdly so much of your mom reminds me of my mom. Same. And it's like, I think it's just a time. And to know they were like around each other in Beverly Hills at that time, like when it was really fabulous. Really. Now it's a dump. It really is. It's very upsetting. It makes me really sad what's happened to Beverly Hills. This is a Chloe Kardashian exclusive. We've gotten broken into twice. No. Isn't that terrifying? It was horrific. We were not home. Thank God. Good. But they smashed my front door and then six months later they smashed my bedroom door. And we had secure it was it was awful. That is horrible. Horrible. Horrible. So sorry that happened. Yeah, thank you. On top of everything else. I was like, Oh, really? I was like, are we good on karma? Like I am filled up. There's been a lot. Girl, I have said that same message to the universe. I'm like, listen, I have paid all my dues. I know. Like we just have. Why do they keep testing us so much? I don't know. I'm like, we're good people, right? Right. And it's the strength, I think. Right. But I've proven you've proven worse. Yeah. I get it. Like I'm like, we're done. Like now I need. We also can't. We don't even have the freedom to crumble. Whoa, that was, are you going to cut that? That was crazy. The freedom to crumble is your book type. No. By Chloe Kardashian, the freedom to cr... That was wild. No, it's true. No, it's true. I have to keep it together for ever. Even for like my friends that like, and I'm not good with emotions, I feel like you're very good with emotions. Well, I don't love them. I hate them. Like when someone starts crying, I'm like, what do you do in this space? But they have, it happens all the time. People love to cry to me. And I appreciate it. Right. I'm someone. I have so much empathy for that. But my reaction is never going to be what you want it to be. Like I'm smiling and someone's like, I'm like, I'm like, this and I'm like, what do you do in this situation? I hate it. And I'm not like a hugger. Oh, I am. I'm like a hugger. I want to say hi. I want to say hi. But if someone's crying in my face, I'm like, oh. No, I just don't know what to do. Yeah, I want to talk a lot about what's going on and get angry. I don't want to like, tend to you being upset. Well, and also everyone reacts differently. Not everyone wants to be hugs when they're crying. So I'm like, what do you need for me in this moment? But you can't ask that question while they're sobbing. And their heart is broken. Okay, speaking about strength, yes, I do want to talk a little bit about the grief you've been through, because I think it's really helpful for so many other people. I remember when your dad passed away, you were really public about it. And I think people got to see a side of you that they don't typically see. But but you also pulled away. Like I remember you pulled away from social and you took time to yourself. And I thought that was really responsible of you. Right. How do you feel now and what got you to this place? I think for so long, him dying was totally different than how I expected it. I had always anticipated him dying because he had me at 44. So when I was 16, he was 60. So I was like, he's going to have a heart attack and die. Because you think 60 when you're 16 is so old. Right. Now it's like obviously not that old. And so when he got cancer at 78, I was like, what? Like we've passed that. Right. You get cancer in your 50s and it's unexpected. I that's the only thing I had ever really heard about cancer. And then when he was diagnosed with cancer, they were like, oh, he has lymphoma. This is fine. This is treatable. This is the cancer you want to have. And then we went back for a scan after we had managed it with steroids. He did a little, then they were like, it's spreading. We need to do a little chemo. And then when we went back for the second scan, I thought it was going to be clear no matter what. And they were like, oh, you have a rare blood form of cancer called T cell lymphoma. So it's not like the lymphoma we thought it was. So I had watched him sort of fade away. But as he was fading away, I still did not think he was going to die. Yeah. And only the last two weeks, it had spread to his brain. And we were like going to be he was going to be put on hospice. And I remember thinking, well, he's still going to live like another few years. And we went to the doctor the last day. He's like, there's nothing we can do. We went home and he died later that night. Oh, wow. He was very much like, I'm not doing this anymore. And my mom called me back to the house after I had dropped them off two hours later. And I held his hand as he literally fought for his last breaths for it. It was like 15 minutes. And it was just such a beautiful, intimate way to watch the person you love the most slip away. And I thought it was going to be more of like a jolt to the system. And instead, I just sort of like glazed over. And I really felt like, A, I felt so close to him in real life, so supported by him, so loved by him. That I still felt that even though he wasn't physically here. Right. So that really the strength of our relationship in this world has carried me through having him in a different world. Yeah. And I try not to pay too much attention to it because if I do, it's all encompassing. You, you go into a black hole of forever that you can't process as a human being. Right? You're like, this is a person I love. This is my father and I literally cannot speak to them. So I've really tried to get through it by communicating with him. I talked to him all the time in the car. My psychic has told me so many intimate personal things that he will tell you. Memories that no one could know. Right. Signs to look out for that I see on the daily. I just spoke to him two days ago and I had lunch with some friends and he literally said something to me through my psychic about what happened at that lunch that no one else knew. Oh my God. So I almost feel like I love stuff like no, you will be really isn't it? I mean, he's so unbelievable, but caring our relationship through even though he's not physically here has truly gotten me through him not being here. And I don't think people do that enough. No, because I do the same. I talked to my dad all the time. Yeah, I think that's so important. That's what keeps them alive. Something that makes me so proud. My dad's been gone like 22 years or something like that, which is like crazy insane. Like it's insane. I'm like, he's been gone longer than I knew him in real life, which is crazy. Wait, I'm sorry. Let's do that, Matthew. He's been gone longer than he was alive for your life. Yes. And like it's crazy to me when I think of that. But when I, it's so silly, but I met Dolly Parton and she was telling me that she knew my dad. And I never knew she knew my dad. Okay. And so being now I'm 41, so my dad's been gone so long I don't get to hear new stories about him often because I hang out with his same circle of friends that he once knew. And so when she did that, I was like, honestly, I've always loved her. But if anything like that made me feel so connected to him and talking about him. And I think it's so important. Some people would rather like not speak of it at all. No, you can't. You can't never happen. You can't pretend because it was such a part of your life. It's ingrained. It's literally a part of your DNA. It's why you're alive. So to just not be able to like carry that on, I wouldn't be able to. So like a part of me still thinks he's alive sometimes. And then I'm like, like what will happen was I'll be in the car and where will be like call daddy and then I'll call, I'll go try to call dad. And I'm like, oh, no, this is your dad and dad is not. And then I'm like, oh, that's kind of a burn. But it's still like, it's nice. It's just sort of, it's like Sharon Clueless when she's like, I still talk to my mom. She's alive. That was my inspo. Okay. Well, inspo received. Yeah. No, I do like not none of our kids have met your dad, our dad, my dad. No, but we talk about him so much. And there's photos of him. They all know him. And I think especially with young kids, I think it's so important to not have them believe he's still here, but to talk about him enough where it's almost as if he's still here to them. I think that's so healthy. And I truly believe going back to like the kids thing, I think that's why I had gray so soon. I think that the universe was like, it's really important to you that your dad meets both kids. And he was there for his first birthday. And then, you know, he was there. He met them. Right. And then he left. So I truly believe that's why that worked out the way. But I think it's great to, they know what he looks like. His pictures are around. It's important. I work that. And it really is. And does it change your outlook like on what you choose to spend your time doing, what you want to put your energy on? I wish I could say it's totally changed me and I don't focus on bullshit, but I still get caught up in stuff that's not that important. That's okay. I really do. And I've gone through so much death in such a short amount of time. And I still am like, well, why is that crooked? Or why did she say that? And I'm like, girl. Right. Get with it. If it's a shit like you've cut it. But it also makes me feel normal. Yeah. You know, but it's definitely I'm also sure that the people around you appreciate that. Yeah. Okay. There she is. She's still there. Yeah. And I going back to not the freedom to crumble, which whoa. Even like the way I save face with my closest friends, like if I were to start to get wonky, I think it would offset them. Yeah. I agree with that. Yeah. Because you're the pillar. Yeah. You're the pillar of American pop culture, literally. And I'm the pillar of like my three friends that I've managed to stick around. Shit. I can't. I'm honestly not okay. And I imagine you and your mom are closer than ever. She's around all the time. She lives in Switzerland, like kind of half the year now. She goes all the time. Her mom, my mom, my grandmother's going to be 101. Stop. That bitch doesn't die. That is chic. She. And I'm like, what water bottle is this? Is it plastic? No, literally. No, it's crazy. Yeah. It is crazy. Yeah, but we have a really good relationship and she's so helpful with my kids. She babysits. You know, it's so nice to have. Yeah. If you cannot have a nanny around, it's, I mean, nanny's are great, but you know, my mom doesn't do that. You're a fabulous. She's on a yacht. God damn it. She is. I can't handle it. She's always like, I give you guys your own job. So you can afford nannies. It's true. You're right. You're right. You're fine. What is something you used to love that you would never, ever wear now? Oh my God. I think Gene Schwartz with pantyhose underneath them. You used to wear that? Yeah, let's not talk about that. Oh my God. I can't even envision that. Yeah, it was like a sweater. It worked like in 2007. True. It just doesn't work. That's what things did. I had the long list that I could do for myself. What item in your closet do you feel the most sentimental about? Probably this gold YSL embellished jacket that Jordan surprised me with that I really wanted. Why? Just for that reason? I really wanted it. It was runway. It was very difficult. And there was none. And he had it flown from Paris to LA with a manager like from the store. And I got it for Christmas. It has like, mink sleeves. It's like one of those pieces you have for the rest of your life. It goes to your kids. I'm very sentimental about that. Oh, love. Yeah. What is your design process for Wrangly? I, this is still name. It's so intuitive. Like I'm like, this is what we have to do right now. And I definitely want to design pieces that are wearable pieces that I feel really passionate about. And things that like you can have for a long time. But I'm really big on color. I'm really big on cut. And most importantly, like quality, like your sweater feels beautiful. But I'm right. Wrangly from literally head to toe. Head to toe. Yeah. And I am a freak about it. I know. Like a freak. This is such a soft sweater. And I love this. So yes. Yeah. And I just knew the quality would be good. I'm glad. Because I, that, I don't have any room. Right? Like if it was not going to be good stuff, they're going to make you're not going to wear that. Yeah. So it was really important. And every single piece we've done, I wear. And you do. And I do. Oh, I love the videos about it. Just love. Love. Okay. Truth or gag? Okay. Low-rise jeans. Gag. Curtain bangs. No one looks good in bangs. Why do people keep doing that? Like, oh, like I did a clip on it. But then you have to fucking keep cutting it. They're awful. Yeah. The grow out I couldn't. Zoe Deschanel is the only bang girl. Well, I don't know what she would look like without them. Right. She's her new bangs. Yeah. Statement necklaces. Are they diamonds? Took the words out of my mouth. Yeah. If it's not a diamond. Forget it. Right. Forget it. Micro shorts. Love. Visible thongs. Like underwear. If you're like super hot in 25, sure. Okay. I can't do that. Me neither. Mob wife aesthetic. Yes, especially now. Love a fur. Love it. Love it. Double denim. Love it. How shiny are your earrings? Oh, I hope really. Whoa. Oh, good. You're paid in those. Okay. I keep thinking they're heart shape, but there's just two of them. Wow. Okay. Yeah. I'll go for them. They're gorgeous. Tiny sunglasses. Absolutely hate with a serious passion. Same. Hate. I also have like a bigger hat. I just love big and like no one see me. Yeah. What's the point in wearing them? Even can I just say Margot Robbie's port like press right now. Like her looks have been so good for weathering heights, but she has those tiny sunglasses. And I'm like, you. I didn't see her in the tiny sunglasses. She's so gorgeous. Don't do it. You don't need them. Yeah. She is so gorgeous. What's happening? Yeah. I did Sam and sperm. They inject a little not deep because it's not like filler. Right. But don't we want to just do filler? Yeah, but this is like more college and boosting. It's not supposed to fill. Okay. But I just know it makes you like glow. Okay. It does. These trends we get so on them and then five years later we're like, oh, that was nothing. And this is the new thing. Oh, yeah. That's probably true as well. Yeah. I rather just do good old fashioned filler and like plastic surgery. I want to just be like 25% better looking. Oh, you're gorgeous. I need to. I need to be gorgeous. We have lots of things. Ear forage. Skinny brows. I can't do it. I hate it. I hate this one bleached eyebrows. I think they look really good on some people. Some I think you look in the alien. Yeah. Otherwise. Yeah. Bo fruckles. You better have perfect fucking skin if you're doing that. You better not have a goddamn poor insight if you're painting stupid dots on your face. You see people are like tattooing them. Yeah. No. Why are the why is everyone so weak like doing dumb shit like that? Well, when you know you're not going to want that. Don't they turn colors? Do we make fun of people with freckles until five years ago? Why are we doing that? I don't understand. Like no, no. Clean, girl aesthetic. Yes. If you're hailey Bieber, yeah. I know. Like when you look like you smell good all the time for sure. Ooh. What was a pop culture moment you wish you could experience again for the first time? Coachella? Really? I don't know. I feel like I don't do anything fun anymore. I'm like, is it coach? I feel like I wish I just went harder at Coachella. What the fuck else am I going to say? Coachella. Who knows? When I leave someone. Yeah. Oh, whenever I get put on the spot, when I leave, I think of like the most articulate, beautiful answer. I'm like, yeah. What? What are you most looking forward to in 2026? I'm most looking forward to feeling good, feeling like myself again. No, but truly feeling centered and feeling organized and like prepared and excited to start working again. And your podcast. And my podcast. I'm very excited for that. We're going to be thirsty and desperate at the beginning. And then yes, it's coming March 25th. It's going to be called, I don't think we've said what's going to be called, you're never going to guess the name, the Morgan Stewart Show. I know. I know. I know. It actually took a lot of people to decide that. And we were like, let's just do this. They were like coming up with names. I was like, no. Well, no, no one can replace you. Exactly. There you go. That's why you do it. That's exactly right. I love it. I feel like we should put the Kardashians. Right. We learned what we were doing. No one can replace us. Oh my God. Well, I love you. This is so easy.