KSR

2026-03-05- KSR - Hour 1

42 min
Mar 5, 20263 months ago
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Summary

Matt Jones hosts Kentucky Sports Radio from his hometown of Middlesbrough, Kentucky, featuring his father Larry on air for the first time to discuss his health recovery. The episode focuses heavily on Kentucky basketball's inconsistent performance, tournament seeding scenarios, and coaching decisions as the team faces a potential 10-seed in the SEC tournament.

Insights
  • Kentucky basketball's struggles stem from inconsistent roster construction and defensive execution rather than injuries alone, with point guard depth proving less critical than initially thought
  • Coach Mark Pope's substitution patterns, particularly removing all three starting guards simultaneously, directly correlate with momentum shifts and double-digit runs against the team
  • The SEC tournament seeding outcome hinges entirely on Georgia's performance against Mississippi State, illustrating how external factors beyond Kentucky's control determine tournament positioning
  • March performance matters more than regular season results for legacy, but both matter—teams cannot discount either without creating narrative contradictions
  • High school basketball in rural Kentucky maintains disproportionate media coverage and community investment, with the 13th Region Tournament generating seven simultaneous radio broadcasts
Trends
Coaching substitution patterns in college basketball directly impact game momentum and team performance consistencySEC tournament seeding volatility increasing due to conference strength and tiebreaker complexityRegional high school basketball tournaments serving as significant media and community engagement drivers in rural marketsPlayer portal and transfer portal creating uncertainty in multi-year team building projectionsInconsistent effort and execution becoming primary coaching narratives rather than talent evaluationWednesday opening-round tournament games becoming normalized despite historical stigmaDefensive versatility and guard availability becoming more critical than traditional position-based depthCommunity health updates and personal narratives driving podcast engagement and listener loyalty
Topics
SEC Tournament Seeding StrategyCollege Basketball Coaching Substitution PatternsKentucky Basketball Roster ConstructionPoint Guard Performance and DepthDefensive Consistency in College BasketballTournament Momentum and Game FlowRegional High School Basketball Media CoveragePlayer Portal Impact on Team BuildingMarch Madness Performance vs Regular Season ResultsCoach Mark Pope's Tactical DecisionsSEC Conference Strength and CompetitivenessWomen's Basketball Tournament PositioningAthletic Department Leadership and ContractsRural Kentucky Sports CultureNCAA Tournament Seeding Implications
Companies
DraftKings
Sports betting platform featured for NCAA basketball game predictions and wagering opportunities
Stockton Mortgage
Primary sponsor of Kentucky Sports Radio broadcast
iHeartRadio
Podcast distribution platform mentioned for multiple show availability
Apple Podcasts
Podcast distribution platform mentioned for show availability
Netflix
Streaming service mentioned in context of comedy programming
Hulu
Streaming service mentioned in context of comedy programming
Comedy Off-Broadway
Lexington-based comedy venue hosting multiple comedians in February-March
Peacock
Streaming platform hosting Michigan vs Iowa college basketball game
People
Matt Jones
Host of Kentucky Sports Radio, discussing team performance from his hometown in Middlesbrough
Larry Jones
Matt Jones's father, appearing on air for first time to discuss health recovery and CT scan results
Mark Pope
Kentucky basketball coach whose substitution patterns and tactical decisions are primary focus of analysis
Ryan Lemond
KSR co-host known for extensive high school basketball coverage and media appearances
Drew Franklin
KSR co-host providing basketball analysis and commentary
Mario
KSR team member experiencing first trip to Middlesbrough and 13th Region Tournament
Braxton Ferguson
Bell County basketball freshman described as best freshman in Kentucky, father predicted state title in 2029
Trent Noah
UK basketball player from Harlan praised by Larry Jones for regional representation
Jalen Lowe
UK basketball player whose injury impact on team performance is debated by hosts
Richie Farmer
Historical 13th Region basketball player cited as one of greatest from region
Reed Shepard
Historical 13th Region basketball player cited as one of greatest from region
Lee Majors
Actor and Middlesbrough native, attended high school with Larry Jones
Mitch Barnhart
UK Athletic Director whose contract and compensation structure is discussed as controversial
Quotes
"I'm just saying to you, like, this is not the only crater that ever was created. But this is the only crater city."
Matt JonesEarly segment discussing Middlesbrough geology
"I feel great. You do? Yes. And what about these guys coming all the way down here? Well, I appreciate that very much, and I appreciate all of the good thoughts, and especially all of the prayers."
Larry JonesFirst on-air appearance discussing health recovery
"It's all about March. And then when he lost to St. Peter's in Oakland, he goes, well, we can't look past the fact we had a great regular season."
Matt JonesDiscussing tournament importance vs regular season
"Mark Pope should be put in timeout and made to sit in the locker room if he ever does not have two of those three guys on the floor."
Matt JonesDiscussing substitution pattern criticisms
"The sentence that Kentucky could be the 10 seed in the SEC tournament honestly makes me want to throw up. That's sad."
Drew FranklinDiscussing tournament seeding scenarios
Full Transcript
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Listen to Charlie's Place on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everyone. It's Emily Simpson and Shane Simpson from the Legally Brunette podcast. Each week, we're bringing you true crime through a legal lens. Whether you want all the facts on the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie, or you still need to wrap your head around the ditty verdict, we're breaking it all down step by step. And we're not just lawyers. We're also husband and wife. It makes for some pretty entertaining episodes. Listen to Legally Brunette on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is Ryder Strong, and I have a new podcast called The Red Weather. In 1995, my neighbor, Anna Traynor, disappeared from a commune. It was nature and trees and praying and drugs. No, I am not your guru. Back then, I lied to everybody. They have had this case for 30 years. I'm going back to my hometown to uncover the truth. Listen to The Red Weather on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. From Netflix and Hulu, Comedy Off-Broadway in Lexington welcomes Ashley Gavin, February 27th and 28th. Then from TV and the movies, he's one of the kings of comedy. Catch D.L. Hughley, March 6th through the 8th. And from the Nate Land Podcast and the Grand Ole Opry, don't miss Aaron Weber. March 12th through the 14th. For tickets to all Comedy Off-Broadway shows, call 859-271-JOKE or visit ComedyOffBroadway.com. Comedy Off-Broadway! This is Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Now, here's Matt Jones. Welcome, everyone. It is Kentucky Sports Radio Thursday, March the 5th. I'm Matt Jones here live at my house in Middlesboro, Kentucky. I don't know why my mom is listening on headphones when it's right here in front of you. Well, we're not having any calls yet. The Clarks Blumman Shop phone line is 859-280-2287. A-Vision Auto Glass text machine is 772-774-5254. This edition is sponsored by the TJ Smith Law Office. If you call TJ, I'll make them pay. We are in Middlesbrough at my house. We got Ryan, we got Drew, and Mario. Guys, good to see you. Middlesbrough, we welcome you. I have had the best day so far. Your mom made breakfast, and it may be the best breakfast I have ever had. Explain what the breakfast was because we get asked this a lot when we're down here. You love my mom. It was great. You love my mom's breakfast. Explain what it is. She basically had three entrees and a bowl of fruit. And the entrees, her breakfast casserole is famous, not just Middlesbrough, but in the state of Kentucky. Then she had cheesy potatoes. But the grand slam was this French toast casserole thing she had today that was like just melted in your mouth. She doesn't know this. I'm going to ask her if I can take something home with me. Oh, are you? Yeah. Well, she might not let you. Get a little to-go box. Oh, look, she got mad. Yes, she will let you. It was very, very good, Drew. It was so good. And you got up this morning. We were in Corbin last night. You got up this morning from Lexington. Was it worth the drive? Oh, absolutely. Didn't even need an alarm. I woke right up to the smell of French toast, you know, two hours away. We've been able to do this a few times on trips and stuff, and we're not just saying it because we're in the living room. Karen and Larry, hey, just very hospitable. That breakfast is a legendary breakfast. The ladies of KSR, I already know on their Facebook page, they're going to want the recipe for the French toast. Will you share it or is it a no share? Okay, so she'll share it. So I'll have her give it to me and I will post it because – I thought maybe it was a family secret. No secret. No secret. Yeah, so it was very good, very light breakfast to get us ready for the day. And we're here. And part of why we're here is Larry is up here as well. And it's good to see him. and be down here to say hello. Of course. They've popped in the bar occasionally throughout basketball season. We get moments here and there, but it's good to be in Middlesbrough at your old house and hanging out with your parents. We do this a couple times a year at the house. Yes, this is Mario's first trip to Middlesbrough. As we were driving through town, he said, so this is where you grew up. And the only thing he pointed out in town was, oh, there's a Kroger. So, I mean, I guess that's what you need in order for Mario to feel like it's a good place to grow up. Yeah, he made it to Pineville last summer when we did the show there, so we saw the floodgates and the chain rock. But we were all into Middlesbrough. That's a whole new experience. They call it Crater City for a reason. What is the reason? A crater fell from the sky, landed on Earth. Not a crater. Craters don't fall from the sky. A meteor fell from the sky and created a crater. And Middlesbrough was building this hole, this crater that the meteor left. But you see it. No, I don't. I don't see it. What do you mean you don't see it? I don't see the hole. Do you know when you're driving into town how we're coming downhill? And then when we leave, we go back uphill. When we were in Tennessee, we're in a crater. Okay, point it out to me so I don't miss it this time. No, you're not. It's not a hole. The whole city is the crater. The whole city is a crater. Do you remember as we're coming from Pineville, we're at the top of a hill where my sign is. Yes. And then we come down a hill and you're there. And then you've been to Tennessee. When we go up, we go up the mountain. That's because it's a crater. So what happened to this meteor after it hit the earth and made this huge hole? Well, this wasn't like 1974. I mean, this was many, many thousands of years ago. I mean, I guess it bounced. Where did it go? Like, why can't we find it? It broke up. It broke up. Okay, where are the little pieces of it? Why don't those include mountains? It made the mountain. I didn't say that. I'm not a geologist. I'm just saying to you, like, this is not the only crater that ever was created. But this is the only crater city. Well, we claim that. They didn't used to call it that. But we saw the sign that said home of Lee Majors and Matt Jones. Mario did not know who Lee Majors was. Very educational trip for Mario. Yes. He learned about the $6 million man, the fall guy, married for a while to Farrah Fawcett, went to high school with Larry. A lot going on. Yeah. I like a lot of the billboards are still the baby face. Yeah. It's baby face. Anybody who's been in the mountains, they know. And I don't think it's just in eastern Kentucky. I think what's odd is I think that baby face billboard is used for other businesses. It's like you don't want your cabinets to have funny faces. Is that what it is? It's so creepy. Ugly baby face is definitely prevalent down here in this part of Kentucky. It's everywhere. And then you have the if you're in pain, call Shane. They're everywhere. It's all those. Down here. I knew I was close because I saw Blake Bowling's. Blake Bowling. That's when I'm getting close to Middlesbrough, the Bowlings. So we were on the 13th Region Tournament last night. Loved it. Ryan already has his free T-shirt. Yep. Grace Hospital 13th Region Tournament. Got all the schools on my T-shirt. What's great about Ryan is when he goes to something like that, I've said this before, no one is more famous than Ryan at a high school basketball tournament. Every town's media member knows who he is. and chances are he's been on all their shows. Absolutely. So last night I look up, Bell County is playing Clay County. All right? How many, Drew, do you think broadcast teams would normally be calling a Bell County-Clay County game? One for each team. One for each team, so you think two. Home broadcast. There were seven radio broadcasts going on. Big game. Seven. And where were they all broadcasting? Or did every radio station – maybe they don't have media rights. So anyone – because there were seven. And Ryan went on every one of them. I picture him doing the Radio Road Tour. You get 15 minutes with Ryan, then he goes to the next one. So Ryan was on all of them. And that's what he does. He's like Mr. – and it's a great quality to have. But he is – you want someone booked on your local radio station? Ryan Lemon is your guy. Well, we think of Ryan as, you know, the co-host on the show and the pep talks and getting out of control. But there was a time where if Ryan Lemon showed up to your high school with a news camera, you knew you were a big game. Well, there was a guy that came up to him and said, I watch you on TV. And Ryan was like, well, I haven't been on TV in 15 years. But Ryan knows when you all would show up in a high school gym, even though you might only be there five minutes to get one play and move on to the next one, that's a big moment. That's probably how you know everyone. But down here, that's what high school basketball is all about. These people love it down here. Well, I went on, so they have an official video stream that I guess is being syndicated around. So they asked me to come on in between the two games, and I did. I got more text for that than when I've been on ESPN. This whole 13th must be watching it. They streamed it in every town of the 13th region. I couldn't believe how many people were writing me saying, they saw you on the – and there were people who – like a guy wrote me I went to high school with who's never written me about anything, and I think it was at that moment he thought I made it. He was like, you were on the 13th region high school stream? Really? I didn't know you were doing media. Congrats. I thought you were a lawyer. Didn't you say you asked him in the middle of the interview? No, where am I on right now? I had no idea what station I was on, and then they were like everywhere. Wow. And so, you know, I tell you, if you want to run for office, you need to find your way on the 13th Region Stream. They're not going to get more publicity than that. Center of Sports Media right here in the mountains. Seven different broadcasts, live stream, and even a student broadcast from Pineville. They had a couple students streaming the broadcast. And Bell County won. Was it close? Did you get a good game? It was an okay game. Clay County was down double digits most of them. Bell County, we hear, has the best freshman in the state. What was his name? Braxton Ferguson. Braxton Ferguson. I got Braxton Ferguson's dad, who, by the way, at 65 years old, has any man ever looked better at 65 years old? He literally could pass. I'm not saying this, for 35. Yeah. Easy. Easy. He said, we're going to win the state in three years. Oh, wow. He called his shot three years in advance. He did. So, Shannon, I want you to write that down. All right. Bell County wins the state in three years in basketball. 2029, I got it. 2029, place your bets now on DraftKings. Take Bell County to win the state. That keeps calling it three years in advance. Also, committing to Bell County for the next three years? Well, we got the portal. You don't know what's going to happen. You were Middlesbrough. You move away. Do you still have a rivalry? The Middlesbrough-Bell County thing is not as bad as Kentucky-Louisville. I'll still root for the Bobcats. Yeah, it was good. You were rooting for Bell County in the first game and Pineville in the second game. I did. We introduced Mario to some people from Clay County. That's a culture shock. Mario and Clay County. Buck Stivers, who's hosted this show, Shannon. People know Buck Stivers. Richie Farmer's friend. He comes over, and he starts talking to us, and then I get distracted. He's only talking to Mario. He'd been talking to Mario for five straight minutes. He walks away, and Mario goes, I didn't understand a word he said. He's just nod your head. Yeah. He's like, we don't have a word. And Mario says, yeah, man, you got it. He was serious. He did not understand a word. So it's very nice to be home and to see everybody. And part of the reason I came home was I wanted to see my folks. But also, you know, Larry got a good report. And Larry has, you know, he's sitting over there. We've had our whole listening audience been praying for you. I get messages about it all the time, about your health. And he says he appreciates it. And as a matter of fact, on that, I wanted you to have a chance to say that. So here, I want to give you this microphone for just a second. I don't think this has ever happened before on this show. Mom has been on the show. But I think in all of these years, I don't think Larry has been on the show. So we're going to give him just a second here, the microphone. Getting him set up. There we go. Larry? Yes? Look at you on the radio Oh This is a first This is a first Now you are 88 Almost 89. Almost 89. Wow. Grew up in Middlesbrough, right? Back where you are. Now, you've been dealing with some health stuff. Yes. How are you feeling? I feel great. You do? Yes. And what about these guys coming all the way down here? Well, I appreciate that very much, and I appreciate all of the good thoughts, and especially all of the prayers that I've heard have been asked and offered. I appreciate that very, very much. I got a good report here, well, this last week from a CT scan that I had taken. So I'm just doing great, and I appreciate it, and I thank everybody for their good thoughts. How does it feel to know all these people you don't even know? I don't even know. Who pray for you, had a lot of people send you cards. Yes. How did that feel? Well, it felt great. It felt great. I've never had this problem before. That's true. I never had that kind of response. and I'm so grateful. Now, you watched the U.K. games. Yes. You were for Trent Noah, right? Yes, he's from Harlan. Yes, he is. He hasn't been making a lot of shots. Right. But then he did in the last game. Made two, I think. He did. That's exactly right. Why do you like him so much? Well, he's one of us. That's exactly right. He's from Harlan. Yes. Well, I just wanted to say to you on the air, Mom's been on before, but you had not. I love you, and it's been great to spend time with you, and I'm proud of you. And I hope you know how much the listeners and all of us have been praying for you and rooting for your good health. Well, thank you. Thank all of you very, very much. I am truly thankful. I'm truly grateful. and thank you for this opportunity to say so to everybody. I appreciate it. So there you go, Larry Blondell, ladies and gentlemen. Very good. Can I ask him to tell a story? All right, go for it. My favorite Larry Blondell story. Can you tell the story? Tell it quickly. When Matt always wears hoodies and the strings on the hoodies, how did you try to get him to quit from biting on the strings on the hoodies? I just don't remember. how I got him to, but I told him about it several times. You walked into my high school with your hoodie in your mouth to embarrass me. That's exactly right. And you were like, this is how you look. That's so long ago I forgot. I love that story. Well, we are going to take a break. It's great having now both my parents have been on the show. We will take a break and be right back from Middlesbrough. Talk a little UK. This is KSR. This is Ryder Strong with a podcast called The Red Weather. In 1995, my neighbor, Anna Traynor, disappeared from a commune. It was nature and trees and praying and drugs. So no, I am not your guru. Back then, I lied to everybody. 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When segregation was the law, one mysterious Black club owner had his own rules. We didn't worry about what went on outside. It was like stepping on another world. Inside Charlie's place, black and white people danced together. But not everyone was happy about it. You saw the KKK? Yeah, they would have dressed up in their uniform. The KKK set out to raid Charlie, take him away from here. Charlie was an example of power. They had to crush him. From Atlas Obscura, Rococo Punch, and Visit Myrtle Beach comes Charlie's Place, a story that was nearly lost to time. Until now. Listen to Charlie's Place on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio here in Middlesbrough. Remember, at 1041, we will be going to WSFC again as Kentucky women play Georgia today. They won the first game in the SEC tournament, so they will play the second. That will start at 11 a.m., so we will switch to WSFC, and we will remind you as you get close. People are saying really nice stuff. One person writes, I believe Larry was my teacher at Butler High School in Louisville, and he's shaking his head, yes, he taught at Butler High School in Louisville. How about that? You have one of your students listening. They said he was a hard teacher. He's a good teacher. Great teacher. He teached at Butler before he came back here. He did teach. Yes, he did teach. He taught. Or taught. At Butler, and then he came back here. Was he a guidance counselor here? He was a guidance counselor, yes. You could have asked him when he was on. He was just automated. We didn't have the headphones on now. 859-280-2287. So let's talk a little bit about the basketball situation. We've spent a lot of time with Mitch Barnard. Let's talk basketball. Kentucky can be anywhere, Drew, from the fourth seed in the SEC tournament to the tenth seed, depending on what happens on the last day. If they beat Florida and a couple things happen, they could get to four. If they lose, ten is the most likely scenario. It's not certain, but it's very likely. Kentucky could be a ten seed in the SEC tournament, and as far as I know is this will be the first time they've ever played on Wednesday. Do you ever remember them playing on Wednesday? You never know this would be the first time. I think this would be the first time. We were talking about it last year, how we were heading forward the first time. They snuck out of it by beating Missouri at Missouri. I know the injuries and stuff. Just the sentence that Kentucky could be the 10 seed in the SEC tournament honestly makes me want to throw up. That's sad. I know the conference is better, but the 10 seed for Kentucky basketball in the conference. If they lose to Florida, then they'll either be the 8, 9, or 10. So, I mean, the way to think of it is if they win, they'll either be the 4, 5, 6, or 7. If they lose, they'll be the 8, 9, or 10. And if you look at who plays who and whatever, the 10 is probably the most likely scenario if they lose. To get the 8, you would need both Texas and Vandy to lose. Excuse me, Texas, Vandy, or Georgia, two of those to lose. Who do they play? Vandy plays Tennessee. The problem is Georgia. Georgia has the tiebreaker on us. Yes. And the problem is Georgia's very likely to win. I think they play like Ole Miss or something. Mississippi State. Mississippi State. If Georgia beats Mississippi State, we're playing on Wednesday. That's the best way to watch it. If we lose to Florida and Georgia beats Mississippi State, we're playing on Wednesday. It is incredibly embarrassing to even have to talk about this scenario plus playing in the opening round on Wednesday. We used to make fun of the teams and the fan bases on Wednesday night. Now we're right smack dab in the middle of it. For years I've said Wednesday's my favorite day because we don't have work obligations. There's bad basketball. I'll hang out with my friends. It's just a day of fun. And then we lock in and go try to win the tournament on Friday. And the game that will cost us is the Georgia game at home, a game that we should have won. Yeah. That game will be the one that cost us. And I said that when it happened. I was like, this is a game that will hurt us. I didn't think it would hurt us on the SEC tournament, but then they beat Alabama on Tuesday night, upset Alabama. So now it will have an impact. You don't want to ever write off your team. like they can't go and win something. But to start on Wednesday, to ask them to run that gauntlet when they can barely even put together back-to-back games in the season, it's just such an ask. It's hard to believe. The most likely scenario, if it plays out the way we're talking about, would be Kentucky as a 10, opening with LSU. What game of the day is that? 7 o'clock on Wednesday night. Open with LSU. then you would probably play Texas or Vandy in round two, and then you would play Alabama on Friday. Do you like that road? You basically would need to beat LSU, let's just say LSU, Vandy, Alabama, Arkansas, Florida. Oh, well, I don't like how it ended. I like how it begins. What, LSU? LSU. Would you like us against Vandy a second time? Texas or Vandy? I ain't scared of those two. How about Alabama? I scared Alabama a little bit. How about Arkansas? I don't want to play Arkansas. I want to stay far away, far, far away from Arkansas. See, and if we had won against A&M, we would either be the four or the five and would actually have a decent shot to the semifinals, but that's not what we ended up doing. Yeah, of course you want to avoid Florida, but I'm looking at Alabama where you've already played back-to-back days. Alabama has had our number lately. I mean, if we play Alabama, we would have had to play back-to-back days, and we've lost four straight. And last year they could have won by 100 in Nashville. I don't remember the final score, but it felt like 100. So I feel like we'd be – even if you do win the first two, you've still got to do that. I think we'd be walking right into getting our teeth kicked in on Friday. So Mark Pope yesterday spoke, and it was the first time, Ryan, where I felt like he was very honest about the team's deficiencies. I mean, I always think he's honest, but I think he was like – He seemed to say all year, it's coming. Like, it's coming. And this was the first time where he kind of said, you know, we're just inconsistent. We just are. And he was almost saying what we've said for a few weeks. It was almost like he was accepting it and going, okay. And he said Jasper and Noah needed to play more, which I, you know. At least they're hitting shots. I'll give them that. I don't know how many more minutes they need, but the last week we saw both of them get out of the shooting park. They scored, yeah, they got some points. How disappointing is it to hear your coach in the first week of March talk about they still haven't got it figured out? Well, he didn't say he didn't have it figured out. He just said they were inconsistent with effort. But this is the time of the year we stick out our chest and say bring it. That's what's fun in being a Kentucky fan. Like this is not the experience any of us grew up on. No, it's not. And it hasn't been for a few years. That's what stinks. So you and I, we had this discussion last night. Is there an argument for Coach Pope that he's had to adjust here in the middle of the SEC season and try to change things and try to figure it out? Is that a credit to him? Okay so one of the things that is said a lot and I think it fair is look they have injuries But somebody made a point that I thought was pretty good which was I mean we said all along the biggest injury was to Jalen Lowe But somebody said to me Matt let just say Jalen Lowe is as good as you meaning me, think he is. I mean, Aberdeen's been pretty good. Yeah, he has. So the drop-off between what Jalen Lowe was supposed to be and Aberdeen, his point was, it can't be that big a drop. I mean, ultimately, we just aren't good. I would push back to say if Aberdeen was at the two and Chandler was the sixth man, you'd have more depth. But I do think it's a fair point to say, honestly, our problem hasn't even really been the point guard. It's not. It was early in the year, but I don't think it's been an SEC play because I actually think Aberdeen's played pretty well. And I think Aberdeen's actually a better defender than Jalen Lowe. I think the problem is you just didn't create a team that can consistently score and consistently defend. That's why I rarely mention injuries. I mean, Quayton's, we knew that when you signed him. So, Lowe and Cam Williams are what I'm basing it on. And I just don't know that the record would be that different with as well as Aberdeen's play. And even though Cam Williams was turning a corner and just got in the starting lineup, it's not like he was just some world beater. He lost these crazy stats. Maybe you win another game. Maybe you win two more games. I think if you had Lowe, you wouldn't lose these games like we do where we get blown out. But would your record be that different? Maybe not. I mean, I don't think we would just quit like we've done in some games. But our record might not really be all that different. 859-280-2287. We will take your calls and be right back. This is Kentucky Sports Radio. TJ Smith, personal injury attorney. Call TJ. He'll make them pay. 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He did have a job where he did that. But he's still going. He's got some of the strongest hands of any man I've ever shaken hands with. You said he used to play the bass guitar. That's why he did these strong hands. Bass fiddle. Bass fiddle. Bass violin. Right there. Huge, strong hands. Read the text you got there. I thought this was funny. Yeah, it was a submission from Chin Coleman's Glasses. That's a good account. First, I thought it was a complaint. He said, guys, I listened yesterday, and I'm really trying to give it all today to listen again, but I'm so fatigued, listening back-to-back days is a quick turnaround. Laughing about the Pope Saturday to Tuesday. Glad he's powering through. Yeah, well, we better get used to that. That's going to happen in the NCAA tournament. Did you see Shea Gilgis Alexander's coat last night? I checked it out online just now. That is a coat. That is a coat. Looks like an Eskimo coat. You think we can pull that off? No. Shea Gilchrist Alexander will wear anything. But that coat, that's a heck of a coat. For people who haven't seen it, it does look like an Eskimo. It's fur. It's all the way up to his chin. It's got like a scarf slash hoodie. I don't even know how. It looks like a hoodie. Have you seen the coat, Shannon? Do you know what we're talking about? Yeah, yeah. It looks like he's wearing almost like a bear costume, like a mascot costume. He does look like he's a bear mascot but without the head. I would wear it, but that looks like something I couldn't even afford to even get near. That looks very expensive. Do you think about that in Oklahoma City? I think so. It's got to be warm, though. I mean, look how warm that thing looks. It does look warm. Yeah, it would be nice. All right, who's up first, Shannon? Let's go to Rob. Rob. Go ahead, Rob. Hey, Matt. Thanks for taking my call, and I'm happy that Larry got a good CT scan report. I just want to make some comments on Pope, and I think Drew really has. has the best summary. And I listen to you guys daily. If you go back and take notes on what you say, we go back to Pope at BYU. He was very inconsistent. Beat Kansas, came home and got beat by nobody. That's kind of what he does here, very inconsistent. Yes. We talk about how he does not – his substitution pattern is crazy. We don't do – we have the same inbounds play as Calipari did. Yeah. When we get pressed, we don't bring five people to get the ball. So it seems like there's lots of mistakes in coaching. I have no reason to believe that's going to change. When you look at this year, Lowe, we probably should have taken the kid that went to Villanova. Lowe is a liability on defense. I'm not sure he can shoot to three. Pam Williams was coming on, whether that would have made a difference. Quayton was probably the best he could do. And then when you look at next year, we have no recruits. He won't get a GM. I have no reason to believe that next year is going to be any better than this year. And, you know, we did go to the second game in the tournament last year. That's not Kentucky. We went to Sweet 16 last year. We went to Sweet 16 last year. I mean, we made the second weekend. And, you know, I'm not saying that that's ultimate success, but Sweet 16 is not a bad year. Now, they did not have the best regular season. I think this year is a perfect complaint. I don't really know if you can complain about last year when you consider that the five years previous we had not gone to the Sweet 16. I actually think last year was successful. This year, I'm with everything you said, but I don't think that's fair to say last year was not successful. No, I'm not saying it wasn't successful. It was better. I just think we thought that this year we would move on. And maybe be better. We had the Ferrari, but we don't have a Ferrari. We've got, you know, an old Toyota of some sort. But in any case, I don't have any next year. We have no recruits. I understand. I appreciate the call. You mentioned all that. I mean, you're right. I mean, you're right. These are all legitimate to concerns. But we're also going into March, and we'll have a different – we'll have a stronger view here in a few weeks probably, one way or the other. Yeah, and this sport, we grade the year on what you did in March. So here in a few weeks, we're going to know exactly how this year went. That's true. And what if they go on a run to the second weekend? What if that happens? It could. I would be, as a fan, be very happy if they ended up doing something like that. Yeah. I would be happy. I would still say, though, the year as a whole was a little disappointing. 8-5-9-2-8-0-22-87. Now, we're going to be switching to WSFC. So get on your phones. Go to WSFC if you want to continue to hear the game. We're going to talk about the revelations on the Mitch Barnhart thing have gone even more odd, and we need to discuss that. But first, from DraftKings before we go, Michigan at Iowa. Bet five, get $200 from DraftKings. Michigan, this is the only big game tonight. Michigan's at Iowa, though. Iowa's good. Michigan's an eight-and-a-half point favorite on the road. Here you go. That's a lot of points. I still take Michigan. Michigan and cover. You're not an Iowa guy? Do not like Iowa, guys. Although they gave us a nice tour when we were up there. We've been in that gym. Yeah. You've been in that gym. Stood on the Caitlin Clark spot where she hit that long shot. Still not pick up. Michigan. All right. I'm trying to talk myself into Iowa, but I can't. I'm going with Michigan, too. I was doing the hole. We've been there. Saw the locker room. That nice manager that showed us around. Oh, yeah. Michigan is just a juggernaut. The problem is the game's on Peacock. See, I'm a Peacock guy. 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One person writes, short of a national title, what could Kentucky do in the NCAA tournament to make you completely forget about the regular season? Well, I mean, you make the Final Four. Think about 2014. We never talk about that regular season. Who even remembers that regular season? They struggle. What are the biggest memories of the 2014 regular season? The putback by Julius Randle against LSU, the Harrison twin, Aaron saying it'll be a great story after the South Carolina game. But can you remember anything else about that regular season? No, not really. I really can't. It all gets blocked out to me and for me the memories of that team just start with the Wichita State game and then go on Well that goes to the importance of March I can say the same about like Oakland and St Peter Those teams are associated with that one game and it not fair to them but I probably couldn't even run through what they did. So, yeah, so if you went on a run, I don't think anybody would go, well, you lost to Missouri at home. But the problem is, I thought about this the other night with Cal. You remember back in the day, Cal used to always say, it's all about March. when we would struggle during the regular season, what would he say? It's all about March. And we all, myself included, kind of bought into it. And then when he lost to St. Peter's in Oakland, he goes, well, we can't look past the fact we had a great regular season. And I remember saying, well, you tell me that the regular season doesn't matter, and now you're telling me March doesn't matter. Something has to matter. So I just don't watch. So, I mean, I think they both matter. I think March obviously matters more, but I think they both matter. But always look at it as did you win the regular season? Not even close this year. Did you win the SEC tournament? Did you win the SEC? I can't speak for them yet, but it's looking like that's going to be a no. And then as much as I'd like to say Final Four, I say Elite Eight as the third. If you do one of those three, I'm going to think fondly of the year. Yeah, we've talked about that. One of those three is good. If you do two of the three. Then it's a great year. If you win three, it's Elite. And we've done none of them in a long time. That's exactly right. One person writes, Matt, I saw you all at the 13th Region Tournament yesterday. I was nervous to come say hello. Who are your and Ryan's best 13th Region players in history? Great question. Good question. Richie Farmer. Yes. Wawa Jones. Wawa Jones. Who else? Charles Thomas. For me, Charles Thomas, would you put him that high? Reed Shepard. Yeah, Reed. Trent Noah. Yeah, because Harlan County Central goes to the championship game, right? Tony Petrowski. Nick Sanford. Nick Sanford's another good one, yeah. I'm sure there's ones in the 60s, 70s, 80s. I can't remember. Do you – I'm trying to think of some one. Who's the best player? Well, the best player from Middlesbrough is probably the guy that played in Kentucky, right? The purse full guy? The basketball player? Yeah. He was from Middlesbrough, I think. Yeah, that's a pretty good group. So you would say – would you say Wawa, Richie, and Reed? that's hard to top those three guys for sure. Then who's your starting five, Trent and Charles Thomas? Yeah. I mean, Charles Thomas played in the Final Four for Minnesota. People skip over that. He was the sixth man on a Final Four team. Wasn't he Mr. Basketball? I think he was, yeah. What teams from the 13th region have won the state tournament? South Laurel did one year. South Laurel boys didn't win. Yeah, they won one year with Ty Prophet. Did they really? Uh-huh. G.G. Smith signs. Well, Clay County won tonight. Clay County won. Clay County won, yes. That might be it. I don't know. Maybe back in the day when those, like, towns won. Trent got to the final game, but they didn't win. Lost to Lyme County. Yeah. Bell County in three years from now, Will. Bell County in three years. We already have it left. Go inside that up. In 2029. We'll go ahead and count that one. All right. 859-280-2287. The women's team, they're going to tip off at 11 against Georgia. They handled Arkansas rather easily yesterday. they will play Georgia and if they win tomorrow they get Don Staley again. Tougher battle today. They beat Arkansas by 30 most of the game but Georgia beat them about a month ago at Memorial Coliseum. It would be good for Kentucky to get a win they still are kind of in play for hosting. They're probably sitting at a 5 seed right now. If they could win today they'd have a shot. If they could win today and somehow beat South Carolina I think they would get a hosting site but probably need to win today to have a chance. Yeah, and I don't have an expectation of beating South Carolina, but I hope they can get to that game because playing them so close, even having – I thought Tiana Aniki had a great look to tie it late in the game last weekend. I'd love to just get one more swing at them, even though it's still unlikely. Yeah, and remember, we are at Paul Miller Ford tomorrow. And if they win today, then we'll be doing that thing again. Although the game tomorrow is at noon, so we'll only lose the last 15 minutes tomorrow. So the game was at 11. It's noon tomorrow. Paul Miller is setting up for an event, too. Dude, Malachi, Jasper, Sissy Cakes. A shuttle? There's like a map? There's a shuttle. Yeah. Nice. All right. So be ready. It's a big deal. Be ready tomorrow. Who's next? Grandma Sarah. Grandma Sarah, how are you? I'm fine. Well, fine, thank you. This is not a basketball thing. That's okay. Okay. I just read in my Kentucky Monthly March magazine the article, Matt Jones and Kentucky Sports Radio, which was very good. If anyone hasn't read it, I think they would enjoy it. Yes, they did a feature on me. They interviewed you guys. You all recorded it. I didn't know it was out yet. Kentucky Monthly Magazine. Nice. I didn't make the cover, but I have like a little head shot. A little box cover. Well, thank you very much. And I don't know if I'm sure Karen and Larry probably get the magazine, but if they don't, they would enjoy reading it each time it comes out. I will tell my mom to get a copy. Kentucky Monthly Magazine. Your son is in it. Not only should she get a copy, they should subscribe. It's very cheap and it's very good. Sarah says you need to subscribe. They would both totally enjoy. All right, I will make her subscribe. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. I appreciate it. I pray you all had nice comments to say. I appreciated that. Is your little photo on the front you in the cowboy hat? No, it's me in that ESPN picture where I'm looking serious. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's that one. We've done those before. This isn't a criticism of the author, but we'll do a 45-minute interview and it's like one sentence. Yeah, they did use like one sentence of yours. And it's like, well, you know, maybe I didn't have good things to say, but you think of all these great compliments you said. I told you after the interview, they asked me a lot of questions about you living here in this house, what your room was like, what the house looked like. They didn't use any of it. I thought I was just throwing fastballs at him. Didn't use any of it. It's okay, though. It's still a good story. It was. I appreciate it. They interviewed me for like two hours, and there's one quote in there from me. My mom is very upset that I didn't tell her about it. But Sarah told you about it. Who's next? Todd. Todd. Go ahead, Todd. Hey, Matt. Tell your mom dead hello, and thank you that Larry got a good report. Thank you. Thank you all for you always calling it fair and seeing it like a fan sees it. But I got two comments or questions for you, Matt. I tried a couple years ago to try to get into you when we were looking for a coach. How come when we ran out of the major names, how come that we didn't look at Todd Golden? Well, I mean, he wasn't a major name at that moment. I think he had just gotten to Florida, right? He'd only been at Florida at that point one year. He had a good start at Florida because I did a list, and I think I had him second. Yeah, he had done all right, but I think he'd only been at Florida for a year. You know, I don't know. I mean, I don't know. at that point the sort of little controversy about him hadn't happened yet so i don't know you know i'm not sure the answer to that question but he the todd golden we know today was not what todd golden was when they hired mark pope all right hey another comment i i know we have our good times and bad times this year and but i think at most times sometimes pope is his worst enemy and i think like the other day uh channell hit three three he took him out we were we were beating texas a&m by going inside and garrison i'm not a big fan of garrison but he was playing decent and then he we started jacking up those threes instead of being up by 12 we were down by 12 at halftime we did go away from going inside i mean they were we were we were having i I appreciate the call, Todd. We were having our way inside early. Now, I also think they changed their defense. They kind of – they were not pressuring the ball as much once we crossed half court. They were, like, trying to keep us from getting shots early. And then they started – and we were going over the top, and then they stopped doing that. Also, when they take O.A. and Aberdeen out, which he did, we don't have guys who can get off the dribble. I mean, we don't have guys who can beat their man off the dribble except those two. Took O.A. and Aberdeen out, and we're locking up Chandler. But somebody in the perimeter has got to do something. Then Trane or Jasper, somebody's got to step up and do something. They lean on momentum so much. Once they get you a little bit in that chaos and that pace where you're uncomfortable, they just latch on and it turns into those big runs. I've seen people online sort of trying to have this counter narrative that the substitutions didn't matter. It was an 8-0 run. It was. Now, it had gone from 12 to 7 before that. Fair enough. They hit a three, and then I think they hit a layup. But it was an 8-0 run in 70 seconds. And when they had cut it from 12 to 7, I'm not sure how the coaching staff would think, okay, how do we stop this? Take all the starters out. I just don't know how you – and for me, when I say starters, it's not even the bigs. It's really O.A., Aberdeen, and Chandler. Because the bigs, sometimes Yellevich and Moreno are good, and sometimes Diabate and Garrison are good. I mean, Diabate's been playing starter minutes anyway. It's really the guards. and it's really, you, Mark Pope should be put in timeout and made to sit in the locker room if he ever does not have two of those three guys on the floor. We don't want to get fatigued for later in the game, Matt. But you cannot, I mean, we had at one point Jasper, Noah, Garrison, and Yelevich, and you cannot do that. Those are your four worst defenders. They can't all be out there at the same time. And he had them all four out there, and the two of those three guys we talked about need to be on the floor at all times. You can't take two of the three out of the game. You just can't. You just can't. Who's next? Let's go to Mike. Mike, go ahead, Mike. Well, if it's okay, I've got to take on Barnhart and the basketball. Okay, I just got like a minute. So, yes, just go quickly. Okay, well, Barnhart, you know, everybody says he's the best we've had. And I just think people that say that aren't looking at the big picture. And I think it's funny that he gets a million-dollar deal just a few months after JMI gets a 15-year contract. you know, and on the basketball take, I think I would play O.A. and Chandler and Aberdeen the whole game, unless they're in foul trouble, they call time and ask to arrest them. They'll be all right. I mean, come on. The problem, but the biggest problem with this team all year has been the bigs. They're inconsistent as far as, you know, like last year we talked about Brandon Garrison, and that's why we need a GM. I agree with you. I got to cut you off right there. 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