Take the “L” Out of Lover (Summer House Recap)

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We're going to go over Summerhouse. Oh, my gosh, I just watched it. I just watched it. And so this is episode 15. There's one more episode to go and we see just Kyle freaking out. And I can't tell you how bad I felt for him. I know. I did too. Right. Yes, yes, yes. It picks up with, you know, the fights that it ended and he walked out and Carl went after him. Did you get why Carl was going after him and screaming and yelling? And did you? Because they don't know how to diffuse something. Right. I've never seen Carl like this, but I'm like, is he looking for a moment? Is he? What is it? No, I don't think he is. He's he's not a calculated guy. Carl's a nice guy. I just think, by the way, I was with him yesterday, him and Lindsay for the upfront, but it was nice to see them together and getting along. You know, I think they could be really good friends. It was great to see them. Yes. On this episode, get along and her going after him. And then I thought, oh, my God. Could you imagine if they got back together? I can't. I think they've grown out of each other. Yeah. I I would I wouldn't be mad at it to tell you the truth. But as far as Kyle, when I saw his face when Sierra said, don't you guys think that you should be a part like, like kind of like alluding to Amanda saying that to her. He was and I had this conversation before he was devastated. If Paul ever heard some me tell best friend. Yeah. Who something about our business, number one, it would kill him. And number two, well, there would be a fucking war in this house. But number two, like he didn't even see it coming. Now, have they had a great relationship? No, he's like, you guys don't know. Seven years or no sex, seven years of not feeling like she's my person. Yeah. Neither one of them were good for each other. I don't think she is good to him. Why do you think they stuck it out for so long? If you're like, you know, how long have they been married together? The show that's something to show. Like if you're newly married and shortly after that, like you're so disconnected that you're not even having sex and you're in your forties. Like that's not good. But do you also think that Sierra was outlined by telling Kyle this? See, I do too. And then she like also said, like he said, did she talk to you about this? And and Sierra's like, yes. I'm like, I just didn't feel like it was her place to tell Kyle that information. It's not the way things are done where I come from. No, but I can see where she would think that, you know, they spend for years now. They have spent every summer together, sharing, swapping spit and sperm and fucking shit sperm. And that's a good name for a podcast, spit and sperm. Yeah, there you go. Swapping dirty underwear on their floors, not caring. Somebody buy these girls packing cubes, please. And, you know, for years, they've been through it all. So they have a different relationship. And that's where I maybe Sierra isn't wrong because of what they share with everyone. Get my point. I think it was a TV moment. Do I think that that would have happened in real life? Do I think that one of my girlfriends would go up to my husband and say, I think you and Tamara need a separation. Yes, we did talk about it. I just that would never happen. I think it would happen in our generation. No, maybe not. Maybe it is a generational gap there. I'm not sure. But this fight got bad. I just see Kyle is just somebody that's just at his rock bottom. He's losing his business. He's losing his his wife. The whole house is ganging up on him. House is ganging up on him. You know, Carl and Kyle are screaming at each other. So Kyle starts going, Summer should be fun. Why am I why is everybody want to take like my fun for me? You that's like his iconic quote, but he believes it. Yeah, I think that, like he said earlier, he's like, I've been working my ass off for seven years trying to get this business off the ground. And then he has to subsidize his income, you know, DJing, which it sounds like he's falling in love with it, which is great. And then also they do the show. What is Amanda doing? Is Amanda working? She made the bathing suits. She put her name on somebody's business. Mom, just saying, like, that's all I that's the only thing I know of her to do. Yeah. So I mean, I don't know that I don't know. I mean, I just feel so bad for Kyle. And, you know, he's he's losing it. Carl calls Kyle a fucking loser. And Kyle comes back with fuck off. You six foot five, motherfucker, motherfucker. Six foot five, motherfucker. Can I just use it like a comparison really quickly? They are at each other's throats. They're going to blows. They hate each other. And they're still not demeaning each other's lives and bodies and looks the way Housewives of Atlanta does. Oh, I know. I don't think anybody does. You could call me a six foot five, motherfucker, all day long. But I mean, I just was like taken back when Carl tried to actually physically fight Kyle, knowing that he's in the mental state he's in. I'm like, Carl, what are you doing right now? Like we've never I've never seen him like this ever in my life. And then he's got Bailey over there getting all moist and wet downstairs because, hey, it's like clean up an aisle nine. Come on, bring a mop. Just come to New Jersey if that turns you on. Well, I think it turned around because, you know, let's be honest, Carl is kind of a soft boy. He's kind of soft. He's got a lot of emotions. He's so good. He's so soft. He's so sweet. So you don't ever see him mean to anybody. I'm going to do his podcast. I can't wait. I love when I see a nice guy. It melts me. Yeah. I mean, he's such a nice guy. And I think that she just kind of got turned on by the six foot five giant, you know, a China doll. He said his neck was bulging. Yeah. I mean, Kyle said it best. I forgot Carl six foot five and more fragile than a China doll, which it does seem like he is. He gets his feelings hurt really easily. He talks about emotional things and to see him freak out and want to fight Kyle. That was not on my bingo card. And I'm like, holy shit, Bailey. He's got Bailey's like, yeah, baby. Yeah. Look at the look at the neck, Bailey. But Bailey's got a little desperate, Bailey. You that's like Bailey Dolores 101. You get a guy that's like that. And I'm not talking about him because this is a flu because he doesn't act like this, that comes with a price. So if that turns you on, you better be very careful. Yeah. Because you're getting the head boxed off you. I think at this point, Kyle can only take so much. He's at the end. I understand he doesn't process his emotions the right way. But I I'm sorry, I feel bad for the guy. Even if this whole Amanda shit didn't happen, I would still feel bad for him. Oh, yeah. No, I was watching. I was like, oh, God, you know, he's like, nobody gets it. No, we don't know what's good. We kind of get it. I've kind of gotten it. I see there's she's like a dead possum, you know, she's in bed. She's mopey. She's not. Amanda doesn't give two shits about Kyle. No, he doesn't want to sleep with them. She's not the one trying to, you know, lean over and kiss him in the morning. It's him. She's so done for whatever reason. Maybe, you know, maybe it was a dick. She's been done. Listen, long before. Yeah, long before West entered the chat, there was no. The the spark was gone. Yeah. And it's not coming back in. Listen, I hope each one of them find their people because I think a lot of girls like Kyle, as long as it's not West. Do you think that West and Amanda are still together? Have you heard? No, I saw him. At a wedding. Yeah, I know. I mean, there's like he was rumbling that he was making out with some. But he was. I saw the thing. Lindsay made a comment somewhere. Maybe at the up front about Jen Fessler. I did see that. And he has entered the chat. She's like, are we surprised? Like it's West. Didn't she say something like he'll put it in any hole? Yeah, she said that she said it. So I mean, listen, who can you know, Jen Fessler knows it's not true. It's not true. Shake it off, Jen. And just it goes away. It'll go away. It's yeah, I think that, you know, she spoke her piece on the podcast. And I think she should leave it alone. Well, I was I love seeing Lindsay calm and calm down. That just kind of warms my heart in such a weird way. And there's a history with someone. Yeah. And I mean, it's something to be said for that. Yeah. But all these girls yelling their guys names. I'm sorry. Kyle, Carl, Carl, Kyle, come back in here. And it's like threatening to punch Kyle in the face. Calm down. Calm down. What girls you started it? Yeah. And then then West tries to talk Kyle off the ledge. All the while Kyle's hand is gushing with lead. I didn't see what did he do to his hand? Did he punch something? They didn't show the altercation. Was there a fight with somebody? Did he punch somebody? No, they start. They had a scuffle, but they got to have. We cut his his hand. Something happened. Yeah. They had a scuffle and then the guys broke it up. But, you know, the girls didn't need to be screaming their names like yelling. Like you need to diffuse the situation. Calming voices yelling when somebody's like that only gets them more worked up. It it annoys the shit out of me, but not everybody knows how to handle it. I don't think it was necessary. Lindsay's place to bring all that up at the table, talking about him going to perform in Vegas and then turn it into like, oh, he's got a residency, which he doesn't. It's like a one time DJing thing, which is pretty freaking amazing. I think anybody who's a DJ, you know, amateur. And it's like you get invited to Vegas. That's a big deal. And I'm sure it's a lot of money, but her like getting involved in saying, did you know that? Is this how you're telling her? Like, I'm like, what are we doing here? And Amanda's just sitting there. They had a somebody on Instagram that reads people's faces. Talk about it. And they would say they just they said how Amanda acted in her face and her laughing and was demonic. Oh, I think I saw that. Yeah. Yeah. They said like that was like she was enjoying it basically that he was getting his, you know, everybody was going after him. Well, you know, he you can't sit there, right? And let him talk to her like that because she didn't do a fucking thing. Really? Was she snickering and, you know, shit like that? Yes, she was. Yeah, she was. But the same way Lindsey could say to say to Kyle, why didn't you tell her about your residency? Is the same thing that Kyle can say about Amanda? Why didn't she tell me she wanted to move out? Why did I have to hear her from? Right. Right. And then later on we hear like, yeah, she knew we talked about it. Like he's like, yeah, I got the offer, but I haven't like there's no contract signed yet. I get a ton of offers. But when until you get that contract and you sign it, it's not a real deal. It doesn't mean anything. You, you and you gather in the name of chicken for thou shalt not eat alone. The KFC popcorn bucket, 60 pieces for 599. Get the deal. Believe in chicken. Available until 17th of May, subject to availability, participating restaurants only not available on delivery. See website for full season seas. I wasn't on the pod with you last week for Summer House. I think you did it with Teddy, right? And so I watched last week's episode and the way that, you know, at that dinner table and last week, how West pulled his chair up next to Amanda when all this was going on. What did you guys say about that? And how did you like, did you read into that at all? Well, yes and no, because had I not known that what's going on now, you know, looking back and you say, well, he just said fuck you to he could get heated. He can, you know, this guy's drunk. Everybody's attacking him. He seems to be channeling his anger at Amanda. Yeah, but then she thanked him for doing that. I saw that when they have that long hug and he's hugging her. What did you know, whisper in her ear? I don't know. Hold it. Do you know where I'm talking about when they? Yeah. When she was by Kyle and she was telling him to calm down, he came over and whispered in her ear. He didn't leave her side for one second through through the whole thing until he knew things were calm down. Well, and then, you know, I'm over analyzing everything. And then there's a time where shit's going on in the kitchen and West is sitting on the front porch and he's on his phone texting. I go, do it, do it, do it cameras. I want to see Amanda over there on her phone texting, like as if they were texting together. I thought for sure that was going to happen, but it didn't. It did not. But I'm like, you I mean, we now look at the show. And we over analyze everything that happens. I mean, him pulling his chair up next to her, you have them, the long hug that was going on. You know, West, not even going up to Kyle's defense. He didn't even like go out like he's like just standing back like he was just bro. Like he'd be like, dude, you know, let's calm down. You know, who stuck up for him, Ben? Ben. Yes. Ben was trying to stick up for him because this is how he felt. It must mean something to him for her to have spoken up for him, because with all this going on, Kyle is having her back, even though he's the one who was, I wouldn't say cheated on because there weren't really together and, you know, but he's also the other on the other side of what Sierra is, meaning somebody that meant a lot to them was being, you know, duplicitous behind their back. Yeah. So, you know, he went to bat for her. He's like, before you unfollow her, before you think about what you're going to say, remember, she's human in so many words and, you know, she wasn't the only one in this. So, you know, seeing the way he's acting towards her now with what's going on and trying to like save her from all the abuse or whatever, when this all started, he was worried about her. She didn't have that same thing for him because she was letting everybody at the table attack him from all ends. As a matter of fact, she was enjoying it. Yeah. Yeah, I don't disagree with you at all. So, I mean, all of this was really disturbing and sad. I even like, I got tears in my eyes. Like I was really sad, you know, it was like so weird to see Carl in a place where he's just wanting to beat the shit out of Kyle. And I think there was like some like built up animosity towards him because of the whole, you know, the soft bar and not being able to give him money for it. He doesn't have the money. You don't have the money. You don't have the money. Like if you want to save your own business or help somebody with your business, like, you know, you got to save your own ass first. But okay, so we move on. Kyle is crying in the closet. He's just wearing his boxers and it looks like some 2008 Hollister T-shirt. And Ben is there and he, he was so sweet. He took his hat off of him. He hugged him. He tried to comfort him. Ben kills so bad for him, but Ben didn't feel bad when he was using his dick to stir his wife's coffee every morning and bring him to her. He was like, oh my God. No, Kyle is admitting he feels like, oh yeah. Every morning, bringing her to the car. Yeah. Yeah. He didn't like him so much when they were skinny dipping in Italy now. In Italy, holding hands like the blue lagoon. Yeah. Now Kyle admits he feels abandoned by Amanda and says they haven't had sex in seven years. Is that true? I want to say like they probably have, but it's not like it's just like it's sad. They say if you have sex less than 10 times a year, you're in a sexless marriage. Okay. Did you know that? No. Yeah. So it was more like that, like, okay, maybe once a month they have it or something. And you know, they're too young. It's not like they're like 50s pushing 60 and they're like, yeah, get you next month. I mean, mom is tired. That's how I feel now. No, I just think, you know what it is? It was, um, it was dead for a long time now. They stayed together for the wrong reasons. And now look what happens. They're both neglected. He's cheated. He's, he has, she has resentment and you know, what would we be saying? Let me ask you, Tamara. Would we feel different about this situation? Had she not had this whole West thing going on? I don't know. It's hard because with everything, cause it's there. Yeah. Cause it's there and it's already happened. So, um, you know, I think back to earlier in the season where I was like, oh my God, Kyle, like stop drinking, stop doing this, stop saying that be there for your wife. She needs you. Now the tables have turned completely turned. But then you also, the more it goes on and I don't know possibly, maybe it's been reedited that, um, we're seeing like, she doesn't give two shits about him. She doesn't want to be with him. And there's nothing worse for, you know, a guy or a girl to be with somebody and you know, they don't freaking. Two seasons ago, two seasons ago that I saw this coming. Oh, who didn't even seen it. I thought when Paige met this guy, I said to my friend Christina Pastina, who's texting me now saying, I can't believe you're not invited to the, uh, Rhode Island reunion. Wait, what? I'm not going to the Rhode Island reunion. What the actual seriously? Listen, I, I'll live. I've been to many reunions, but I, what's the point of that? Can I ask you a question? Cause I've seen it all over Instagram in the earlier, when the show started. Do you think that they had you because they were worried that maybe things couldn't get off the ground and you can kind of lead them in the right way. And then when the production realized, oh, shit, these girls got something. They know what they're doing. And then all of a sudden Brava is like, we're going to bring Jersey back. They're like, well, maybe we don't need Dolores as much. Yeah, but it was stupid. I was already there. What's the difference? Yeah. I could have been more of a friend to Liz on the show. There's a big age gap. I could have been a very good friend to Rula being a woman who was cheated on. Like Rula couldn't sit and talk to anybody relatable to that. Right. I mean, why wouldn't they have you and sitting down with Rula who, you know, you've gone through that. She's asked, Rula asked, begged, you know, I can't say that the girls did, I felt the girls didn't mind me and whatever it is, what it is. Listen, it's okay. I had a really beautiful summer. The time I did spend with the girls was nice. I made friends, me and Liz were able to hang out because we were friends. Paul and I and my dad just had a great summer. So I can't complain, but there are people that say that I should have at least been to, I could show up at the reunion and tell you what I think or how many episodes they have. It's 12 and then there'll be a three part reunion. They haven't shot the reunion yet. Right. No, it's coming though. They all have to have their dresses and everything. Well, I mean, so it's either a two or three, I would imagine. I don't know. It'll be a three. Okay. All right. Well, let's move on. So what's an Amanda have a moment as they hug and Amanda starts to cry. That hug, I rewound it and played it and rewound it and played it because I wanted to see if there was some little editing going on to make the hug look like it was longer than it was. And I did not see any little shady editing. Normally you can see like, you know, when they do that, any funny business there, any funny business, they literally were hugging that long and was kisses or do that in that fucking house. But you think they were like editing Ben and Kyle hugging in the fucking closet. This is not friendship territory. I'm sorry. This is not something. I mean, I held each other for a long time and he rubbed his back like that. Listen, I just want to say, well, why isn't why isn't West over there looking for his buddy, Kyle and trying to calm him down? Why is he scooting his chair over next to Kyle's wife? Could you imagine if it was us, let's say us, we're on the same show. And I should come so I would fucking crawl over that table to get the fuck out of there. Yeah. And then he's hugging her. And then you know what I mean? Like if our Eddie's doing it to you, I'm like, no, no, no, no. The right thing for West to have done was to put his chair next to Kyle and say, all right, buddy, you know, don't let me calm down because really Lindsay, Lindsay, Lindsay started the whole thing. But Lindsay lit his ass on fire. She did. And you know what? I love Lindsay. I think that she's doing an amazing job. And if it wasn't for Lindsay, a lot of these conversations wouldn't happen. So I'm thankful for that. That's so true. I'm thankful for that, for TV as a viewer. But you know, and in all honesty in real life, she probably wouldn't have done that. She wouldn't have done that. I think she would. You think so? I think Lindsay is exactly what you see is what you get. But she's so she's such good reality TV. She really is. Oh, she knows. She knows how to do her job. And sometimes when you are good reality TV and you do ask all those good questions, you get like, oh, you're the asshole. You're that. Well, you know what? If this asshole didn't do some of the things, meaning myself, then a lot of shit wouldn't happen and be boring TV. So there's that too. So keep it at Lindsay. Yeah. Doing it. So then I mean, that hug felt like ours. It really did. He's kissing her head. On the back of her head. No, the signs are all there. Right. Listen to me. And I'm no. I want to get we're going to get the real deal at the reunion. We don't know what, when this was aired, but we'll know. I want at the reunion, the timeline explained in a sense that. Okay. This is the episode. When it started, right? I want to come back after I find out when it started and watch every single episode after we were told things kicked off. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Does that make sense to you? Because we don't, we don't know any of that. And then you're going to really look at things differently. But what I really want is to know what West West whispered in Amanda's. Maybe we'll find out the reunion. Um, there's speculation that they're possibly not together now. Um, Molly was with another girl at a wedding. Girls were all over him. Like, well, okay. It could have been a situation like this. Like they said, oh, he was in the airport going to a wedding. Well, I was in the airport going to a wedding to Cabo with a bunch of people because we all lived in Orange County. We're all fine on the same airport. No, Tamara, you did not see the TMZ video. Did you with him making out with the girl at the wedding? I didn't see that now. No, so he's making out like, oh my God, that crooked wiener gets around. The girl was all over this guy. So they're not together then. She blew up her damn life in. Oh my God. Anyway, I don't know. All right. We'll move in forward. Kyle and Carl apologized to each other. Kyle explains it. Yeah. And Kyle explains that he thinks Amanda loves when he leaves. And I think so too. Amanda is clearly all checked out. Kyle wants Amanda to defend him and stand by her man because he feels alone. And instead it's like she's happy when he's gone or he's taking the heat or he's got to go out of town. It's over because it's over. It's over. Take the L out of lover. It's over. I've never heard that before. It's a song. Oh, it was a song when I was younger. Take the L out of lover and it's over. You don't remember that? I don't. Oh my God. Okay. So moving on in bed, Amanda tells Sierra and Mia, she's worried that she's portraying herself as a sad girl victim. That did not age well at all. At all. Well, I can tell you that. Are you sad, Amanda? I think that Amanda has a lot going on by this time. And, you know, when she's like, you girls have had to be here for me. This is like the second time this summer, you're right. You know, saying that whatever I was crying and you've been here telling Amanda, it's called friendship. You're there for me when I'm sad and I'm there for you when you're sad. Yeah. Yeah. So that's what happens. And they're both by her side and when he comes in, well, he apologizes and he, but, but see, he didn't, he explained himself. He didn't say, I'm sorry. It would have been nice if the girls left and the two of them had an adult conversation, but historically speaking, they don't have adult conversations. Ever. No, but I'm saying like, if I thought my friend was in danger of getting hurt. Hurt or this guy would fly off the handle and raise his hand to her. That's the only time that I would still be sitting there in that moment. Get my point. But yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen, I get what you're saying. They should have got up and left. He's just was like, I'm sorry for saying what I said, but it's a long winded explanation. He's drunk. He's drunk. Don't nobody ever come talk to me when you're drunk. I would love to see him stop drinking for a while. I think it would be sobering in more than one way. Yeah. Yeah. I think that, you know, he's using alcohol because which a lot of people do because their life is not happy right now. But I think it's making it worse. Kyle's talking to himself again. So he's literally like, is this where he is in his closet? And he's talking to himself. And I'm like, I can't even understand. I look like he was being or something. He, I don't know where he was. And I'm like, at first I had to, you know, listen, that I turned it up and I rewind it because he was like, no, I, he, I understood. I heard him. You did. So I had to do it over and over again. He's saying Amanda turns their friends against him and she wants to leave, but she's too scared because she can't do anything herself. Do you think that's true? To some extent. I mean, what does it mean to do? I mean, I don't think there's any one reason why she doesn't leave. It's, it's a habit. It's how many times have you, me been in a relationship where we wanted to leave, but there's nothing holding us. Not a thing. Yeah. But you stay longer than you should. Yeah. My last husband, like I stayed way longer. You had kids and there was a lot involved, but I've been in relationships where I didn't have kids in Kyle's eyes. He looks at Amanda like she has no ambition at all. Like she doesn't cook. She doesn't clean. Not that that means ambition, but she doesn't do anything. And he feels like he, she's kind of with him for the wrong reason. Yeah. But when it comes to marriage, like it, you help each other out. And if Kyle's working his ass off and she doesn't necessarily have, you know, a nine to five job, there's a lot of things that she could do for him. You know, like for instance, you know, Eddie works out of the house. So when I'm filming and doing the podcast, he knows, I don't fucking have time. Do you know what he does for me? He makes my coffee in the morning. He does the dishes for me. He makes dinner. Like he does everything. Like he's an amazing husband. He will do all these things for me because he knows these three months that I'm filming. It's hard. If Kyle's doing like DJing and doing all these things, trying to make, you know, ends meet and she's not working, like do something for your man. They're in a rut, both of them. She's got to be doing something now. She lives alone. So what's she doing? She's DJing. Just kidding. She's, you know, maybe she needed to get away from him to be motivated and maybe he needed to get away from her to find, I feel like he's always kind of motivated, but I mean, he just needs to find himself now needs to find his niche. But you know what I loved is then when Kyle and him make up and he gives him the lover boy, he's always got the lover boy out there. That actually bugged me. I'm like, stop with the self promotion. Honestly, like it's getting to be a little too much on the show. Like I get it Bravo. You get a piece of the business. You have to. That's the only way you're showing all this. It's written into that contract. Right. So when you're in every scene with two lover boys, I'm like product placement, product placement. It reminds me of the Hulu reunion for the Mormon wives. You know, they had the, you know, all their product. It just turns me off. Yeah. Dunkin Donuts, all the swig, all these things. I'm like, I don't like that. Well, here, be a little more subtle. A little. But it was, it was really, really a hard episode to watch. I have to say. Yeah. Well, after the night out without Amanda, Jesse has Kyle where he's going to sleep tonight. Kyle makes a joke. And this is another one I had to rewind because I didn't know who was directed towards. And he said in front of West and Sierra that Jesse wants to sleep with his wife tonight. And I'm like, where, wait, I saw that. It's like, what, what, wait, what? I saw that. That was just a bad joke. Jesse invites Sarah to sleep in his and West's room tonight, basically saying me and West will sleep together. You can have the other bed. And I'm like, yeah, that's really what he wants. West is being extremely flirty and sinew, then he and Sierra would be sleeping in the same bed. What were his motives? Well, I can't speak for him, but she looks, she's so hot. But here's my thing. She is so hot. I think Andy said she's probably one of the most beautiful girls on Bravo. And a hundred percent. And I'm going to throw this other West is not. He's a little frumpy. Sorry. He's not. I don't feel it. I don't, I don't dig his vibe at all. He wears his hats like this. He's goofy to me. He's super goofy. And I'm like, here's this hot ass woman. And then there's West. I'm like, and you're in West, you're not even trying to, to, to move forward with her. You're not. I feel like this is another. I'm stringing you along, Sierra. I think that, um, you know, I want to be friends with you, but I, I, I don't want to do anything more than that. That's how I feel. He doesn't give me the, I got the hot guy who's who says he looked in the mirror and said he looks like a lesbian today. Like this guy, he's very self deprecating and really funny. He is in the heat. That's what has always made him so likable. Yes. I mean, when his dick pic came out and he goes, listen, it's soft. It looks medical. It doesn't look sexual. I mean, I just try to check myself. What are you checking yourself for? I don't know, but he could try a little harder. Let's try a little harder. I'm just saying it's so bad. I don't know. Um, so then we move on and Lindsay asked how West felt about Sierra calling him the person she loves the most. Um, I think now I'm finally getting how much Sierra really cares about West and what she wants from him. And then I want to take her, I want to take her and shake her and say, it's West Wilson. Like why him? The heart wants with the heart wants. Why does the heart want West Wilson? Can you explain that to me? Well, I can only her heart can tell you that, but I think you can get any guy, any guy in the world. So here's what I, when I see something like this and I've seen it in a very close proximity of my life to many people I care very much about. And it's something that person doesn't matter what they look like, how much money they have, whether they're a worker or a lump on a log or a piece of shit or what, when there's that one thing in your life that you're missing and they, that person has that one thing, nothing else about that person matters. Like, I agree with that, but what's the one thing I know what it is. I know what is it? Cause I don't know what it is. He's very attentive. He's very engaging. He makes you feel very loved. Look at how he hugged Amanda, put his hand on her head. He's banging her. Okay. He was giving her the, the cricket dick. I feel like the crooked dick syndrome. I, there's actually a medical term for that. Cricket dick curls up like this. It's like per, percept, something. How do you know this? Did you have a boyfriend? No, I went to surgical tech school. Oh, that's right. I forgot you do everything. So I don't, but, um, yeah. So people get cricket dicks fixed. Pyronys. It's called pyronys. Can't fix it. Can't fix it. What, what, what, what wakes the cricket? The ligaments. It like curls up almost like, hurt literally curls. There's the crooked dick that he has, but then there's the straight. No, I don't think so. Never seen. I don't know. I guess I, I, I wouldn't know, but I don't want to know. I don't want to know. Anyway, I don't know. I just get like annoyed because Sierra is so beautiful and can get whoever and she's, you know, heartbroken over West. And I'm just like, no, Amanda, no, no, no Sierra. What if, okay. What if she gets with Kyle and people have said that could that happen? Well, you know, my dad left my mom for her best friend. Right. I know people. They didn't get married and my mom got married to her best friend's husband. Okay. They swapped to shy, to shy. Didn't let her still marry. No, not on either side. They would try on my mom and, and the, the bitches X. I couldn't stand this woman. I called her job at the club. She like they bought, they trauma bonded over being dumped after 27 plus years. That's rough. And then they started hanging out and then I'm like, no, God, no, then my mom's like, Hey, I got married. I'm like, I don't want to hear about it. No, God, I know, but I don't, you know, stranger things have happened. Of course that that has. And there's a lot of different equations that can happen here, but time will tell. Yeah. Okay. So I have a serious question asked. So we go back and we talked about how Lindsay S. West felt about Sierra calling him the person she lives. The person she lives the most in West's confessional. There's been some talk that maybe this was filmed after the scandal broke. He says he's grateful, but he's also been trying to avoid the relationship with Sierra for a long time. That was a rough confessional for it. Well, as people are saying, he looked a little different. His hair was different. Okay. Maybe. Do you think that maybe he was trying to like, okay, well, these are notes that we have to take for the reunion. And these are questions. Yeah. That we have. Or is he referring to, you know what, for two years, I've tried to avoid her because I knew she was mad at me. And now we're, you know, at a place where we're friends again. And this feels weird. Because I don't want to go back there and I don't want to. Yeah. So I wasn't like, there's two ways that you definitely can look at it. And obviously, like we said, we're dissecting every single word that's being said here. Yeah. Yeah. But so everyone's all dressed up for Sierra's ski party, which is cute. Carla and Kyle went from nearly getting into a physical altercation to building an igloo together. I mean, you truly just can't even make this shit up for the show. No, these parties, it's the end of your party. I'm excited for it. Looks great. Really cute. Remember last year was the pajama party? Yeah. Was it the year before? It was, yeah, it was last year, I believe it was. They're all slept on pages last season. Little Lexi running around in the little light up fuzzy skirt fighting for Jesse's attention. And it just never happened. So we end the episode with Sierra and Wes. They haven't had a conversation on where exactly the relationship stands. And I'm, I'm confusing it too. Like, are they getting together? They're just friends. It's so confusing. Sierra is okay with it because she likes flirting with him. But in her confessionals, she admits that his ability to care and then immediately not care is scary. Because he never really cares. So when you really care for someone, it's very hard not to care. Even when you hate them, when you're broken up, when every other factor involved is should go against you caring for that person, you still care. Yeah. And then there's when you're caring is really just an illusion. Then it's easy not to. So yeah, but she can help herself. You saw the clip for next week and it's the season finale and she's making out with Wes. I saw that. But I knew that was happening. You knew it was happening. Well, you know, when I knew about it, I wasn't mad at it because I wanted her to get it out of her system. You know, when you're not with that guy for a while and you romanticize it in your head and then you get to be with him again and then you're like, oh, I'm so over it. So I wanted her to be so good at that feeling. Yeah. Like, oh, I don't know what happened or how she felt after him. But after that, because they do clearly hook up, that is not going to look good. So yeah, so that's how this episode ends. Next episode, like I said, is the season finale. And then we go right into the new spin off show in the city. So excited for that as well. So thank you guys for tuning into another episode to tease and a pot and we'll see you real soon. This is an I heart podcast guaranteed human.