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Next Pledge is a 12 month fixed time trucker tariff with variable rates lower than off chance price cap for standard variable tariffs. Direct debit required, T's and C's apply. Welcome to Andy and Ari on three presented by BetMGM and it is a dear Andy dear Ari Friday. It is mail back day. You have some incredible questions. We're excited. We've got Ari, we're making the trek to Indianapolis. We're going to be at the Culver's Game Day Hub on Saturday in Indianapolis. You can come see us at 200 East Washington Street, Luger Plaza, and we'll have frozen custard for all there. But before we go, we're going to talk about a quarterback who's going to be plying his trade about, I don't know, hour 10 from India. And that's Josh Hoover, who is headed to Indiana to replace the Heisman trophy winner for Nandam and Dozier. We're going to try to help the Hoosiers defend their national championship. But we got a good question from Peter. Are you ready for this one? I'm ready. I'm ready for the weekend. I'm ready for the questions, man. I'm fired up. Basketball and football, what a cocktail. Go ahead. It's amazing. So let's start here with one of Indiana's newest residents inspiring a question. This one's for Peter. Thanks for all your coverage of college football. I'm writing to pass along some low-level anxiety from TCU fans. It is mostly whispers because Sonny Dykes is a nice guy. People tend to like. But what if he's bad at handling quarterbacks? What went unmentioned in the College Football Enquirer podcast was that the show I do on Yahoo, we talked about Sonny Dykes comments about Josh Hoover, which we're going to play you in a minute. What I mentioned was that Chandler Morris was fine, but not great at TCU. Sonny started him twice, once over a season max dug in, and then once again over a very green Josh Hoover. In both cases, Chandler was Wally pipped out of the job by the backup. Even when healthy, he was just okay. And his claim to fame was, and will always be, leading the home win over Baylor in the first game without Gary Patterson. In the two schools, Chandler went to after TCU. He played in ways we never saw when he was a frog. That was North Texas and Virginia. Now there are lots of Fort Worth eyes cast toward Hoover's forthcoming performance with the Hoosiers. Will we see the same thing happen? Is it yet to be proven, but entirely possible? Sonny underdevelops QBs, and we haven't seen the last fine, but not great TCU quarterback transfer and fine career success at another program. Hopefully we're all wrong. Thanks again for all your work. Listening in on college football, minutiae while waiting on my kid's next event at the track meet is a nice little boost. Well, Peter, I hope you're waiting for an event right now. I hope we can fill that time for you. But Ari, should we play the Sonny Dyches clip first? Of course. I feel like that's a necessary context here. So this is Sonny Dyches on the state of the frogs podcast. This is something TCU produces. Is the Sonny Dyches talking about, well, he got a question about Gordy Sammi's, their new offensive coordinator. It turned into a shot at Josh Hoover, the outgoing quarterback. Here's that clip. Look, numbers and numbers and stats are stats. And I think, you know, you look for us and I think Josh started 31 games here as a quarterback and we turned the ball over 40, he turned the ball over 42 times and those 31 starts. And you go and you look at Gordy was the offensive coordinator last year at Connecticut and their quarterback turned it over twice. And so, you know, I think that's where we want to get to. You know, you look at the teams that played for a national championship. You look at Indiana this year, you know, they were number one of the nation turnover margin. There were plus 22 in turnovers. And then number two and fewest penalties. And so that's what we need to become. You know, we need to be a team that doesn't turn the ball over. I felt like the last, you know, three years we've turned it over way too much. The first 10 seconds of that clip are I got passed around the internet very quickly. And my initial thought was, oh, there's got to be some context here that I'm missing. It's not just Sunday Ike's taking a shot at Josh Hoover on his way out of town. No, I left more in the clip so people could see that there was more context to it. He's just taking a shot at him. Like going from saying we and then changing that to he turned it over. This is all you need to know. And I don't know if you saw this because Wright is recording this. Kurt Signetti was asked about this. And Kurt Signetti said, well, Josh Hoover, when he came to Bloomington met his two best friends, it's really good defense and an awesome run game. And then he winked at the reporter who asked. I don't know if you saw that. We're going to grab that clip. We'll have producer River throw that clip in there. Because of course, we love Kurt Signetti's shade when we can get it. Yeah, we're still learning about him. Couple different things there. Would like to see him play a little faster practice, a little more urgency, drive every ball. I don't know what was asked of him, where he came from in terms of practice. But no plays or a throw off, even in walk through. We get all wide receivers for running half speed. Well, we want to drive every football throw in the game. But obviously, I think the great thing is excited about Josh, first of all. Let's be clear about that. And he's got a body of work in terms of winning football games, passing yards, touchdown passes. Got to clean up some of the turnovers, obviously, which coach Dykes made light of. But when Josh got here, he met his two new best friends, great defense in a really good run game. And he was never the same after that. How funny was that? Amazing, amazing. And probably, Sunny would tell you, because we like Sunny on this show, everybody likes Sunny. But Sunny would tell you he probably shouldn't have said that. Or at least not said it that way. Yeah, I mean, everything anybody who knows Sunny, he's not a mean-spirited person. And also, we don't know how he feels about that departure and all those things. But I do think we kind of do. But I think we can put it together here, Andy, that it wasn't a, what is it, an amicable divorce? Amicable? Yes. Yeah. So I think it's an interesting question. And the other thing, too, is that if it's really hard to judge, too, because if Hoover goes to Bloomington and has an awesome year and they make the playoff and go on a run, does that mean that Kurt Signetti is awesome? Or does that mean that Sunny Dykes sucks? Like, I think that there is no context involved. I think that's the root of Peter's question. And this is why I think it was a mistake for Sunny to come out the way he did. Because this puts a target on Sunny's back. This doesn't put a target on Josh Hoover's back. Josh Hoover has a history of turnovers. If he goes to Indiana and turns the ball over a ton, it's because he's a turnover prone quarterback. If he goes to Indiana and doesn't turn it over and they're awesome, that means that he could have gotten more. That means that Sunny could have gotten more out of him. It means that Sunny kept playing him despite the turnovers. It all falls on Sunny after that. So there's no winning for Sunny here. None. Yeah. It is kind of interesting too, because Sunny was also the original Kurt Signetti for a second there. And he did it during a time in which you couldn't revamp your roster the way that Kurt Signetti had the ability to do so. And they went all the way to the national championship in the old style. And of course, it ended poorly because they were still playing old Georgia. And old Georgia was ready to play. But it's just really hard to answer that because Max Duggan was awesome. But I know that it was a complicated arrival at his tenure too. Right? Chandler Morris was the opening day starter that year. Yeah. So it's like you did get a lot out of a quarterback, but it wasn't the quarterback you ultimately originally chose. And I mean, I guess you could really go down that road. And here's the other thing too, Andy. I think that in this new era, in terms of how good you are at being a head coach with the quarterback position, is also who you're fortunate enough to financially get. I wonder if we view certain coaches differently based on the fortune of having a really, really good player come in and accept a huge payday to come in and fill a hole on your roster. So I think that Sonny Dykes has done a very good job. I think it's incredibly hard, especially now in the current landscape of the country or of the sport, to do what he did at TCU consistently. But also, I think TCU would probably like a little bit more out of their teams since they went to the national championship game. Three or four years now. So, yeah, it was four years ago. Yeah. And so new OC, Gordon Sammys, comes from Connecticut. New quarterback, Jaden Craig, transferred from Harvard. Harvard's all-time leading passer. And he is the sort of player. We're actually seeing this quite a bit now in this new era. So the Ivy League, you get four years to play four in the Ivy League. If you end up not playing as a freshman, they don't look at it as a red shirt. You're still done after four years in the Ivy League. So he had to go somewhere else. He had a year of eligibility. So he could have played anywhere but the Ivy League. And so he winds up at TCU. He'll be replacing Josh Hoover. So we'll see if they get more out of him than they got out of Josh Hoover. And then we'll see, does Indiana get more out of Josh Hoover than TCU did? Do they get the same number of turnovers? Do they reduce the turnovers? All of that will be how we formulate who won this divorce. I also think that getting somebody from Harvard to come in and not turn it over as much seems like a likely solid, good bet, right? Because they're smart and they're distinguished. And they don't make dumb mistakes with the ball, right? Like, they come from the ball. Somebody with a violin is just following him everywhere. Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, He might turn it over, but none of them are going to be boneheaded turnovers. I'll tell you that right now. That's exactly right. But yeah, so we will find out is it was that Josh Hoover is a turnover-prone quarterback or Josh Hoover was allowed to be a turnover-prone quarterback because of the coaching he received at TCU. And, courtesy, now he has his own thoughts. A good running game and a good defense. But they also got him some receivers. Nick Marsh from Michigan State joined Indiana. Charlie Becker's still there. They tried to get Parker Livingston, didn't get him. But they're going to have some guys to throw to. And yeah, they're going to be able to run the ball still. Yeah. Very interesting storyline. And Kurt Signetti is a national treasurer. But the one thing I wanted to make sure to is that Sonny Dykes got the respect on his name that he deserves because, I mean, what he did was remarkable. Yes. Still. Yes. But, again, when you come out like that, because that was not a slip of the tongue. That was not a Freudian slip. That was, I am going to throw some shade at this quarterback who left us. Well, I think that coaches in general and Jerome Tang found this out too, is when you open yourself up or you feel like you're in a position where you want to criticize a player or you want to say something that's kind of of that nature, you are also opening yourself up to criticism and the scrutiny that comes with that comment. So, you know, I'm all for it. I think that people should share how they feel. And obviously it's a high profile business now, man. Like people are making business decisions. Feelings are going to get hurt. Relationships are going to sever. And I want people to be open about how they feel about certain things. But when you do it, you are also going to be scrutinized in the microscope. Yeah. So, how all this plays out, we don't know. We will need to watch Joshua play. We will need to watch Jayden Craig play. And we will return to this maybe mid-season and see if we can declare a winner here. Because I do think it's one of those things that we should be able to declare a winner. It should be fairly easy to figure out. It's spring and this is the time of year when you start rethinking what's in your closet. I'm trying to keep fewer things, but better things. Pieces that are well made, easy to wear all the time. I can just grab it and I know I'm going to look great. That's why I keep coming back to Quince. 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Nobody is questioning Dan Lanning for two straight blowouts in the playoffs. This is a fair question. I have an answer for it though. Are you ready? I do too, but I want to hear yours first. I bet I bet we have the same answer because Dan Lanning didn't lose to Florida state last year and Dan Lanning didn't lose 24 to three to a terrible Oklahoma team here before. That's the difference. Dan Lanning wins all the games he's supposed to win. The seasons have not ended the way he wanted them to, but they ended up getting blown out by the eventual national champion in both cases. But they also beat the team that blew them out in one of those years. And then they played another game that was very close against the team that blew them out in the other year. And oh, by the way, they had zero healthy running backs when they played the semi-final game where they got blown out. So they could neither run the ball nor pass protect, which not a great combination for the offense. Now, Alabama couldn't run the ball either, but that wasn't necessarily because of injuries is because they couldn't run the ball. Kind of my answer, but not really. My answer is they do get crap for it. I got to know Lanning does get somebody. I will agree. I will agree with Casey. He doesn't get nearly as much as Kailin aboard us. My answer, though, is more about also program stature. I think Oregon is still viewed as on the Ascension towards greatness and still knocking on the door. I think I would put Texas and Oregon in that same bucket of like really good program, a lot of respect, ton of resources, you know, have nationally been considered a team that could beat anybody, but haven't broken through yet. And Kailin DeBoer took over the juggernaut of a program over here that beat everybody all the time for 10 years and now it has fallen. Like, and that's like the, the peril of taking the Alabama job to begin with, right? And you, you take that job eyes wide open. You're going to get attached to program stature and program standards that you had nothing to do with right out of the gate. So if, if Kailin DeBoer had the same two years, but he was starting at another place, I think that his entire existence would be framed completely differently. I think that the Alabama nature of this is that we are so used to seeing Alabama prosper and be the dominant, you know, hated program that is just better than everybody for so long that when you see it happen. The other way you have a hard time, you know, separating those two things. So, you know, Alabama isn't the jumpstart, you know, team that used to be really good, that's trying to get back to being very good or trying to win a championship for the first time. So the starting points for landing in DeBoer, even though they have similar results the last year or so, isn't necessarily the same grading rubric. But I also think it like the Ohio State blowout in the 2024 season, they beat Ohio State in the 2024 season too. So you're going to get a little grace in that situation. But I also don't think that the number one thing for Kailin DeBoer's, if you're in the negative camp for Kailin DeBoer's analysis, that like the first thing that comes to mind is they couldn't keep up with Indiana. Like the first thing that comes up to mind is. That's not what I'm worried about. Yeah, right. So, you know, I think that the number one thing in Dan Lanning's, you know, criticism category would be being blown out in the playoff two years in a row. And I think that's what you would hear. And I'm sure that's what he's striving to fix every day of his life. When I think of Kailin DeBoer, I think don't lose the teams you're not supposed to lose to, especially getting blown out by one of them. And it doesn't matter, you know, that they lost by a lot to Indiana. I'm sure it stings. Alabama's not used to being humiliated like that. But I think that they are in two different categories program wise and in two different parts of their coaching 10 years. And I also don't, I don't kill DeBoer as much for getting blown out by Georgia in the SEC championship game because he beat Georgia the same year. He beat him. I think, yeah, Kailin DeBoer's issue isn't that they were blown out. It was that the program isn't, is in a place where being blown out is not surprising. Like that's the, you know, so. When's the last time Dan Lanning lost a game he wasn't supposed to lose? It was Oregon State year one. Yeah. I also think, and maybe you'll push back on this a little bit, but I think that the Alabama loss to Indiana was much uglier than Oregon's loss to Indiana. Oh, I was at Oregon's lost Indiana. It was pretty damn. Yeah, you were there. I don't know. You tell me. Yeah. I mean, Oregon had just blown out another team in the playoffs. So that, I think there's that, but you knew going in what was going to happen. The Oregon Indiana game because once you found out that, that Oregon's running back room was completely depleted, there was no hope. There was absolutely. Oregon was not going to be able to run its offense at all. So, and then it doesn't get like, that's not why D'Angelo Ponds got to pick six in the first play of the game, but that certainly didn't help. Yeah. The first play of the game really did set the tone there, Andy, but I just feel like the, the second half of the Rose Bowl feels far dire in my memory than what happened. I mean, Alabama had a sad field goal. Like Oregon actually did occasionally move the ball. Yeah. Yeah. But again, both blowouts, I think there is a difference, but also when you are a fan of a specific team, and I don't know if Peter is, but you also get more or Casey. I don't know. I don't know if Casey is, but you also get sucked into the vacuum of what you consume more and it feels more intense that way too. Well, and if you're an Alabama fan, you are, the discourse all around you is, is Katelyn the board, the right guy for this job. That's not just us. That's not us saying that because Katelyn the board had that interview with Chris Lowe this week. That is every day in your sphere. When, as you listen to your Alabama podcast, as you, as you listen to sports talk radio in the state of Alabama or, you know, around, or you read stuff about Alabama, like that is, if you're on the Bama online message board, that's the conversations the Alabama fans are having amongst themselves. I think simply put to slipping while you're scaling a mountain is less embarrassing than falling when you're at the top of it. And he might not have been at the top of it because he didn't build it, but it's presumed that he was presumed that he was, and he went to the national championship game. And I think that we forget too, and it has to be put into the context of this question that Katelyn the board got the best of Dan landing while at Washington. So like, you know, it's not, it's not like it's beyond the shadow of it out that Dan landings a better coach, but I think that the arguments are framed differently because of, of program stature and direction. Yeah. So it really comes down to D'Bor. I still think it's more like what you said, when the games are supposed to win. And I think a lot of the criticisms just go away. Cause I think people understand when you play another elite team, you can lose. So that's, it's beat the non elite teams that you've lost in past years. Our next question from Tyler. This one ties into, uh, to what's going on in, uh, Indianapolis this weekend as well. I am not an Indiana fan or a Michigan fan, but I am genuinely curious if Indiana fans would trade Kurt Signetti and Darian DeVries, their, their, their basketball coach to Michigan for Kyle Whittingham and Dusty May. They would obviously lose the best coach in college football, but they would get a basketball coach who looks like he will inevitably win at least one national title in his career, maybe even this year, maybe more. They would also get a pretty good football coach in Kyle Whittingham. Football is obviously the big money maker, so administrators probably don't do it. But would their fans rather be a perennial power in basketball and solid in football after they won a national title, or would they rather ride the Signetti run? If a different coach, Michigan makes more sense, feel free to use that for the record. I think Michigan takes the trade in a second. This is fascinating because here's my thing. Kyle Whittingham could come in to what Kurt Signetti has built and probably be really competitive and maybe even keep you at that level. But Dusty May would definitely make you a national title contender in basketball. If you're Indiana, like is that, would they be cool with that? Cause they have, they have that football national title in the pocket. They have, they have the title in the pocket. But if I'm an Indiana, if I were the general manager of Indiana, and I can decide the trade, I would be like, I'll be like, why don't we keep the. Generational personality coach that might go down as one of the greatest coaches that's ever lived, who by the way, 63 is still the younger football coach in this equation. Yeah. And I could just maybe fall my way into hiring a really good young basketball coach if it comes to that. Like it's not like it's impossible that Indiana could not hire somebody like Dusty May to run their basketball program. Well, they could have hired Dusty May and they elected not to. So yeah, but there, there will be another, you know, I don't know. We'll see how things go with their basketball program, you know, next year and all those things, but like there will be potentially another opportunity to hire somebody and you just do a better job of hiring. Like Michigan would do that in a hot second. And honestly speaking, I don't think that there's a single program in the country. Maybe outside of Georgia and Columbus, but maybe even there where they wouldn't take that trade. Yeah. Cause, cause you put signetty at Michigan, you're, you're winning another national title pretty soon. Yeah. And you're doing it in a bad ass way because Kurt's Ignetti is like cold blooded dude. Like it's not just that he's good at it. Can you imagine him in the Ohio State, Michigan rivalry? He's a character. He's an actual character. And we were talking about like when Jim Harbaugh and Nick Saban and all those guys left the game that we were going to have a hard time filling the gap of personality and, you know, you know, figureheads, like this Kurt's Ignetti, not fill that hole immediately. And then like even like what we talked about earlier on the show, Andy, it just like all of his responses, his facial expressions, his, his gun down or is like eagle eye look right into cameras during broadcast. It's like all the things, like who does anybody not like this guy? Let me ask you this. Has there been a better winker in college football? No. I didn't think so. It's like, it's powerful and seductive. I don't know. It's both. Like I just have no idea. Like that's a man that can get what he wants. I, I think that, you know, I think the actual question you boil it down to is what do Indiana fans care more about their football program or the basketball program? And would you say, and I don't know, I've, you know, I've been to Bloomington and covered a lot of really sad games there in the past. But I think that once you win the football national championship, do you become a football school? Like I've always viewed basketball, although it's great and people care in North Carolina and Duke might get upset about this, that being good at basketball has always been the consolation price and not being good at football. North Carolina love to be good at football too. I mean, like, look, they're trying financially with the Belichick. But would North Carolina sacrifice its basketball program to have a national championship contender football program? That's the question. Now, no, and the thing is Indiana isn't sacrificing its basketball program. And that's, that's the point you were making earlier. They didn't sacrifice the program. They just didn't hire the best coach when they could have. Oh, I'm so, I feel so bad for Indiana that they didn't hire Dusty May and Kurt Zignetti in the same cycle. You must have been so hard to you. Well, by the way, when Kurt Zignetti was at JMU, the basketball coach was Mark Byington, who's doing really good things at Vanderbilt and who may be in for a bigger job like now. So would it have been the same coaching carousel cycle if they hired both? No, I don't remember. It was one year apart earlier. Yeah. No, no, it was one year apart because FAU was in the final four after Indiana made the playoff year one, right? No, they were not. OK, so it would have been the same cycle. It would. You're right. And Dusty May was hired in March, 2024 at Michigan. OK, yeah. That's wild. Wild stuff. But I do think Indiana is probably really enjoying this football supremacy and just because they're very good at football does not mean that there is no hope that their basketball team will ever be good again. But I am very, very curious and interested by the basketball versus football school comparison. It's like if you are a basketball school, well, is that who you are at a cellular level or does that change based on success of the football program? Would Indiana sacrifice at all to be one of the top three programs in college basketball again, or is this newfound football school aura taste so good that you don't really even care about basketball to the same level anymore? I think they care. I think they just would would rather do what you you said is if this era doesn't work out and go hire somebody and to to put a bow on that conversation of could they have hired Dusty May, they would have had to fire Mike Woodson earlier. But Mike Woodson was on the hot seat after the 2023-2024 season. They could have done that. They just chose not to. Yeah, I also think that basketball, the build in basketball is easier than football. And he just got done doing the hardest single build that we've ever seen. You know, Andy, I wrote a column before we recorded this about the patients thing at LSU and I listened to a Josh Pate segment. And he basically said that, you know, Kurt Signetti is going to be viewed as the norm when he's actually the exception to the rule. Yeah, he's broke. And I. Everything's brain. But but I don't know if I 100,000 percent agree with that because and I'm not saying that people are going to be able to do what Kurt Signetti did all the time. But I think that since the sport changed and Kurt Signetti did what he did so soon into that evolution, that that is an indication that it's easier done than it's ever been before. Yeah. And it's not that. It's not that it's never happened before. Urban Meyer won a national title in year two at Florida. Kirby Smart was in the national title game in overtime in year two at Georgia. Like it's not that it's never happened before. It's just that it was never happened when you take over the worst program and it was in the end. That's what. But but LSU is not Indiana. So yeah, Lane Kiffin. Yes, would we be? Should we be shocked at all if Lane Kiffin is in the national title game in year two at LSU? No. That's the expectation. No. But I think that going from OK to really good in basketball is such an easier accomplishment than doing it in football, even though it's becoming more doable because of what Signetti did, which is why you can never do this trade. Yeah, you can never do this trade because you can go get the right coach and he could be in the final four in year one. If you get the right three players, you know, agreed, agreed. Now, you you you are right about this. I I I was trying to talk myself into it, but you're absolutely right. No, Indiana never does this trade. And you hold on to Kurt's body with you until your cold dead hands. Or that's right. I mean, like you would ever I would. I would let Kurt's signetty move into my house in a time of need. Like I would not like let him. But not the national treasury must be protected. Yes. All right. One more question. This was from MDN. And it's a very simple question. Reaction to the DJ Lagway article. So for those who didn't read, this was Matt Hayes story in USA Today about DJ Lagway that came out last week. It was a very detailed story, extensive interview with DJ Lagway. And we've seen Lagway do some more stuff. He did a podcast with Baylor. He's done a lot of interviews in the last week or so. This is a really interesting story, I thought, because. It's a lot of detail about DJ Lagway's time at Florida. They go into great detail about his mental state in Gainesville. The fact that he never took an on-campus class, which I don't think is that unusual in this era of college football. But as Matt pointed out in the story, and I remember this, there was a time on Florida's campus when you had Tim Tebow and Jo Kim Noah taking classes at the same time and they managed just fine. Like they actually, if I remember correctly, because I think Tebow told me this once, they had a class together at one point. Tim Tebow and Jo Kim Noah. So it's not that he's so famous, he can't do anything. But I think his personality probably lent itself to that. And he goes into that talking about how he probably wasn't as close to his teammates as he should have been. He wasn't really hanging out with them. And he feels like that caused problems. And then especially when his injuries made it impossible for him to throw and prepare for the 2025 season the way he wanted to or needed to, that it really just sort of drove a wedge and made everything worse. And you know what my main takeaway from this was? We talk so much about the pressure that coaches face. And we can go right back to the Lane Kiffin thing, because he's such a fun person to talk about. He pleaded for patience a few weeks ago at the beginning of LSU's spring practice. And everybody, including myself, was like, he paid $40 million for a roster. You don't get patience. And how much pressure the NIL, the NIL world puts on coaches to perform quickly. And we know all that. But like, what about the pressure that it puts on players who accept those paychecks to perform? Especially if you're somebody who hasn't done it yet, hasn't practiced a bunch, is an unproven asset and is fighting through injuries. And is considered the savior of the program and basically saved the coach's job, your freshman year, and now has to save it again as a sophomore. Yeah, there's a lot there. Now, we can also say- And that would be hard to do if you were completely healthy. Could you imagine how helpless you would feel and how isolated you would feel if you weren't able to practice or even perform because you're hurt? We could also say you took the check. That's right. But they're also- You didn't turn it down. He was also a high schooler. And of course, every high school in America is going to take the check because everyone's going to take the check. Well, I think it's more personality. And that's one of those things that you tend to trust the quarterbacks more who are that due that everybody wants to be around. And Florida is an interesting example of this because that was the knock on Chris Leek as a four-year starter at Florida. Now, Chris Leek ultimately is vindicated because they win a national title his senior year. And now Tim Tebow is coming in occasionally at that point. But it was very obvious when Tim Tebow showed up who the team liked better because Chris Leek was an introvert. He just- he just wasn't that type of guy. And Tim Tebow was that type of guy. He was a- I'm- you know, I'm going to do tug of war with the defensive tackles in the weight room and like that- that's just who he was. And so the quarterbacks who are extroverts, who are the ones who people gravitate toward are the ones that I think we trust more. But what made this situation very interesting is- and this is, you know, something that ties into Florida now- is Tramiel Jones Jr. who was a freshman last year who is still at Florida and competing with Aaron Filo for the starting job. Tramiel Jones Jr. is that type of guy. So here you had this dude taking all the practice reps that DJ Lagway would have been taking and the teammates gravitating to him. And I think, you know, Lagway- I noticed a lot of the responses to that story were, oh, he's making- Lagway's making excuses, blah, blah. And then some of these are legitimate excuses. But I did think he- I felt like he owned up to what he felt were flaws in himself that hurt his performance there. And he's trying to do differently at Baylor. And he took a bunch of his skill position players to Miami to go throw and work out together and bond. And I think- so he's trying to do it differently this time. And it's so interesting, because like Baylor put something out on the first day of spring practice and it was DJ Lagway throwing three passes and they were wobbly ducks. And it was like, oh, God, why did you put that out there? I mean, it was- I think it was the same day that story dropped, by the way. And- I mean, I don't- I honestly don't know why you would do that. Because every- you've been to a spring practice, every quarterback in America throws passes like that. Just pick the good ones. Like- Well, and it just- I mean, it got worse and worse with that. Because this is a guy that we saw as a freshman who could, with a flick of the wrist, drive a ball 40 yards on a rope into the hands of the receiver, you know, in a tight window. And now that wasn't every throw. Because accuracy was- was the issue with- with DJ throughout his time at Florida. But you saw the potential there. And that's why you and I completely overrated him going into last season. But it's- I'm also not going to underrate him going into this year and pretend like he stinks. Like, I think that there's still a chance that he can play pretty well. Well, and I also think- And I know that he has like Steve Sax's disease either because Baylor- Baylor understood the assignment and then they put this video out this week. It's glorious. This is- It's a beautiful spiral. So they- they understood the assignment. So he can still- He didn't forget the throw. Yeah. But I also think too that it's functional that he's able to go back to where he's from too. I think that like the- the- and I don't think that Waco and, you know, North Houston are- are very close together geographically, but being back on your home state maybe, you know- That's where dad played. Helps you with more, you know, familiarity, father's links there and all that stuff. And Baylor was involved in his recruitment the first time around. So like, I think that, you know, maybe getting out of the way, bright lights, maybe connecting with your team, more being back in your home state, all these things might cultivate a better experience. And maybe he won't be a top 10 pick in the draft like I thought he was, but like, I'm not like completely hopeless that he could be a really good player at Baylor too, you know? I also don't want to root against the guy. I- I- I want everybody to do the best they can. I want everybody to have success if they can. And like, I feel bad for this guy. He had all the- and you can say, oh, we- but he got all this money. Okay, he got all this money. But you have a Florida fan base that doesn't like him anymore. You have, you know, everybody nationally and you and I, Ari, are at fault for this as well as other people who overrated him, and hyped him up, who view him as a disappointment. We have you buying DJ Likeway cards. So I just- I feel bad for him. I would love to see him turn it around at Baylor. I'd love to see him prove everybody wrong because that's- that's the fun part. That's the great part about sports is you get another shot. You get another- another throw. And- And by the way, if he turns out to be awesome again, he will still be the big story. Like, Baylor's a big enough place where, I mean, like his like, chances of succeeding in college aren't dead. So, you know, maybe- maybe we just bought too much of it and I'm ready to own up to that. I think that both of us have acknowledged that we putting him at number one quarterback in the country last summer was probably wrong or was wrong and dumb. But, you know, I- I do buy into the fact that an 18-year-old who is getting paid that much money and has injured his entire time, he's there feeling isolated, all those things like that all felt real to me. So- and I'm happy that Matt wrote that. Yeah, and look, you can think- you can say it's excuses and- and you're probably right, but sometimes excuses are legitimate. And the injuries also something that- now maybe the injuries could have been handled differently or handled better, but that may have been out of his control as well. So, that's the other piece of this. If he's healthy, what can he be? And we're going to find out. We're going to find out when he plays for Baylor. We're going to find out when- when Josh Hoover plays in Indiana. We're going to find out when DJ Lagway plays at Baylor. We will learn all of these things eventually when the college football season starts, if it ever starts. It feels so far away, but we're so close. Think about it this way. We're pretty close. As we hit the mile markers on the way, we're in the middle of spring practice right now. The final four is this weekend. You can see me and Ari in Indianapolis on Saturday, the Culver's Game Day Hub. Come visit. Come have some frozen custard with us. You could enter the Culver's Swish- Swish- Swish- Swish- Dish Sweepstakes to win up to $2,500. You can enter that by August 5th by Sunday. But we're going to have a basketball national champion on Monday. We're going to have the month of May where all the conferences get together in their meetings. And you know what the thing about custard samples are? Oh, yes, custard samples. Is if you eat enough of them, it's a free custard. That's true. That's true. Which I did last year. I think I had the equivalent of three or five free custard. I think I had five samples of custard. It kept getting better too. Yeah, it never stops getting better at Culver's. So, yeah, come see us in Indianapolis, but we'll be talking basketball this weekend. We'll be talking basketball. Heading into the national championship game on Monday. Ari and I are covering. What are you writing about? Basketball too, right, Andy? Absolutely. We'll be covering the semi-finals and the national championship. Very excited about that. Can't wait for these games. This is going to be a very fun weekend. And we hope you join us in Indianapolis if you are a Michigan fan, an Illinois fan, an Arizona fan, a Yukon fan. Come on by and say hi. Ari, let's go to Andy. See you there, buddy.