Da Brat & Judy Dupart: Learning To Mix Business With Pleasure

This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human. Hi, it's Jill Winterstein, host of the Spirit Daughter Podcast, where we talk about astrology, natal charts, and how to step into your most vibrant life. And today I'm talking with my dear friend, Krista Williams. It can change you in the best way possible. Dance with the change, dance with the breakdowns. The embodiment of Pisces intuition with Capricorn power moves. So I'm like delusionally proud of my chart. Listen to the Spirit Daughter podcast starting on February 24th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your podcasts. I'm Amanda Knox, and in the new podcast Doubt, the case of Lucy Letby, we unpack the story of an unimaginable tragedy that gripped the UK in 2023. But what if we didn't get the whole story? Everything's been made to fit. The moment you look at the whole picture, the case collapsed. What if the truth was disguised by a story we chose to believe? Oh my God, I think she might be innocent. 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The other is a beauty mogul who has turned her skill from viral marketing into a multi-million dollar community-driven brand, Kaleidoscope Hair Products. Now they are wives and they are sharing their journey in their new book, The Way Love Goes. They are quoted as the unicorn in their relationship is not that they are black lesbians but that they have found true love please welcome to brad and judy's what up what up what up i know it's crazy first of all hi guys hi hi when was the last time i saw you oh my god i don't know so i uh so me and your wife we did a little song back in the day we got ourselves a little grammy nomination i still have that little gold thing i still have that i don't know where that Come on, Brett. Do you have a few of those? You probably do. I don't know. They're like little coins or something. You were a baby, though. You were like a little firecracker running around the set. You was, too. Yeah, I guess I was. We did the whole wardrobe thing. We had the brown and we had different. It was like, oh, Lord. We had different stylists and wardrobe. It was crazy. It was good times. It was good times. We performed on the MTV Awards. That was fun. That was challenging for me. That was challenging for all of us. I was in a Trojan outfit. that's right it was challenging it was challenging for you to see you never gave that vibe well it was you always gave the vibe that you had like you had that that's how you gotta be yeah you know I was like oh shit this is scary but you did your thing but it was history good moment in time shout out to Kim and Missy and everybody yes absolutely beautiful moments anyway a lot has changed life has evolved you still around no should I sometimes My son always says that. He says that jokingly. And then I'm like, nobody wants. It's ladies night. What? Nobody wants that. Angie on the mic. The butter peed, honey, got the sugar, got the spice. Roll the L's tight. Yo, I just made this up last night. I'm the rookie on the Soul Star team. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We rock with you. I love that you remember all the words to that. Thank you, man. Never let me break this shit alone. What's up with you rhyming now in 2026? Man. Where we at with music? I do a lot of music all the time. But you know, shit is different. Yeah. the game is different. So I just feel like they don't appreciate it the way they used to. And I'm not going to put out 10 songs a week. You know what I'm saying? I want to put out one or two, let them marinate, let people love them. It's just so different now. It's so fast. It's so fast. Yeah. It's like depreciated almost. But do you still appreciate the art of it? I do. Do you still like, are you like rhyming in your head? No, I don't be rhyming in my head. But when I get in the studio, I write, produce. She got music. R&B songs. I'm a writer. Why? I don't know. She got like 30, 40 things. Excuse me. How's it sound? It's good. Yeah. Yeah. And to imagine how long ago they did it, it's still good. Wow. She don't put it out. Just keeping them in the vault? I mean, yeah, when the time is right, I might license them or something. But just to put them out, I just feel like they're going to go away too quick. And I don't like that. How exciting that this book is coming out. I mean, how has this press run been? I mean, you're sharing a lot of your... Yeah. She didn't like that. Yeah. She didn't? No. No, absolutely not. You know, I'm to my selfish, you know. Yeah. Yeah. I was in the closet for a long time being very private. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, it took my wife to bring some vulnerability out for me to actually show it. Because, you know... So before you met Judy, you had never considered coming out? Nah. No. Is that because you just are a private person or because of... Because that shit wasn't cool back in the day. I was thinking about that before. People think now, it's like, what's the big deal? Why wouldn't you? Even Dana Latifa the other day posted about her wife. Yes. And it was so... It made me feel so good and so happy for her that she gets to talk about who she loves now. Because it was against the rules back in the day for a female artist. You couldn't do that. You couldn't tell that. Remember, Ellen lost everything back in the day. Wow, that's right. You know? So you could either choose that or your career or your life. Was that a fear? Did you have that as a fear? In the beginning, I never cared because that was just a rule. Yeah. That was just what you did not do. But I never really met anybody that made me want to be out loud. I thought I was in love a few times, but apparently not until I met this one because then I felt some feelings and some things that I had never felt before. And it made me want to be like, fuck everybody. you know I'm telling everybody you're gonna see this love you're gonna see this love you're gonna see how happy I am you know when you hear stories of people like not living in their truth there's a weight to that I was a young youngster you know what I'm saying it really wasn't it wasn't an amazingly kept secret either by the way I don't know if you know we kind of suspected I think anybody that dressed like me and rapped like me everybody thought all of us were and some of us were not some of those girls. Yeah, they thought I was when I was younger because I wasn't bagging everything and I was not. But she wasn't. She was just a straight up tomboy. Some people knew, some people didn't, but I never said anything. Hey guys, Boost Mobile is proving that you do not have to overpay for great wireless. Unlock the savings with the $25 a month forever unlimited plan. It's a permanent price with no contracts and no price hikes. So you can keep your phone, your number, and you can save up to $600 a year compared to other major carriers so stop overpaying and switch to a fair price at boostmobile.com and do it today based on average annual single line payment of at&t verizon and t-mobile customers compared to 12 months on the boost mobile unlimited plan as of january 2026 for full offer details visit boostmobile.com so good for you so you met somebody who was like nah fuck this we are gonna yeah we're gonna be ourselves we're gonna be out here was it a conversation or was it a demand no she actually led that. I was fine with her being in a closet. Yeah, for the first time, I didn't give a fuck. For the first time, I didn't care. It was at Essence 2019. 2018 or 2019. One of them. It was 2018 or 2019. It was in New Orleans and I got to see her. Her and her crew came to my hotel, so we met up and then we went to Morro's and then we had rehearsal at the Essence Fest and I just wanted to walk through the crowd holding her hand. I wanted her to sit that ass in my lap You were in love I was in love and I wanted everybody to know I didn't give a damn who my team was like what is going on when I grabbed her hand my team grabbed each other's hands and we all grabbed each other's hands like we was walking through the crowd like they did not know what to do when I sat her on my lap in the dressing room they immediately shut the door because they're so used to like me not being like that for years never being like that so protecting that and protecting you But this one right here made me just want to be like, I want people to see how happy I am and who's making me feel this way. Yeah. What was the reaction? Besides from your team freaking out a little bit. Ain't nobody say shit to me. No. Nobody's going to say shit to me. Yeah. But then how did you feel? I felt good. I was waiting on people to say something to me so I could be like, mm-hmm, yep. Because you were ready. I was ready. Yeah, you were ready. I was ready. Yeah. But that must be so freeing. It is. Because nobody had ever made me feel ready. And I'm not knocking any of the previous things or whatever, but relationships. But apparently they just weren't what they should have been. So what is the difference? What do you mean? When you find real love, when you find that type of love that makes you want to change your whole life. Girl, your body tells you. Your spirit tells you. Your butterflies tell you. Your stomach tells you. You might have to shit or throw up. So romantic. Yeah. it's just so many different things like you just feel it you just feel a tingling and a burning and like your soul it's crazy because i was like oh my god i never felt this before this is something totally different and i just wanted i just child but had you dated a lot yeah yeah quite a bit enough to know that this was different yeah yeah she was still dating him when we first got together Uh-oh. How'd that go for you? Hmm. I don't want to bring up a sore spot. It's okay. It's in the book. We talk about it in the book. She just wasn't so forthcoming and honest. At the beginning? Mm-hmm. Because you probably used to live in that way for a while, right? Yeah, all my life. Well, she was cleaning up her mess. I left her alone, though. What do you mean? Yeah, she did. We were talking for a while, and I guess, you know, she said I ghosted her a few times and stuff, so. I said. she had me fly to Atlanta didn't answer the phone I was living in New Orleans she did it to me three times now three out of she wants to always say well it was actually eight in total that we were supposed to meet it was only three because we did meet up a few times we did hang out so what was that about just you hadn't felt it yet you didn't realize she was the one no I did just bad behavior no she was taking her sweet old time getting rid of her baggage and I think it's because she is such a caring person she was trying to you know, do it carefully and not hurt anybody too much and making sure everybody's situation was straight if she was financially taking care of them and the whole thing. Oh, wow. Who do we just have here? Bum B. We had Bum B on the show. And somebody called in and asked him about, like, if she'd be ready to be married. And Bum B was like, the first thing you need to do is delete anybody's number in your phone that your wife does not want on your phone. Like, your phone should be clear. You got to clear out your life before you make that step. It takes people time. It's not an easy transition. It's not. Did you almost lose her? I did. Messing around? I did lose her. Oh, you did? I did lose her. Yeah. We were kind of like dating and talking and stuff. And then I looked up and she was hugged up with some nigga on Instagram. And all you saw was the back of his head and her fucking fingernails. like all hugged up behind him and stuff and her grinning from ear to ear i'm like damn wait you could have told me you was moving on i could have told i was moving on but she wasn't she would have me come to atlanta and i answer the phone and so she also did this thing that she said has nothing to do with anybody she was dealing with i could get her between certain hours and then after certain hours it was either slow or no response so tricky tricky tricky tricky Red flags. Whatever. Right. You know, usually that means you live with somebody or you have a situation or, you know, you're just not available because you have you so committed to other things. So were you into her already? Like, was that breaking your heart? Well, you kind of like this ain't this isn't this isn't this ain't it. I was into her, but I also was trying to because she also is like you had to peel some of her layers back. Well, first of all, I told her first. I was like, I'm interested in you. So I approached her, right? You pursued her. Right. And with that being the case, I didn't know if she didn't know how to communicate, that she had other stuff going on, or she didn't know how to communicate that, hey, she was into me, but not in that way. So I just, I continued to try to date her. But then once I got that kind of response, I was like, yeah, I don't, she got something going on. She, I don't know what she got going on, especially since she was, like you say, she was in the closet. People didn't know her business. And I didn't tell her. I didn't tell her because I didn't want to lose her. Because, you know, you tell some people, they'd be like, oh, hell no, I'm not dealing with that shit. You know what I'm saying? So I didn't tell her. And that's the thing in the book. Like, I should have told her. You know what I'm saying? So everybody that's in a relationship or if you're in the beginning of your relationship, come clean with all your baggage. Tell them everything that they need to know and give them an option, you know, whether they want to stick around or not. But that's hard to do when you don't want to lose the person. When you know you've never felt this way before and you don't want to lose them, you don't want to risk it. So I ain't tell her shit. I was just trying to clean it up. Like, okay, look, I can't talk to you no more. It's over. You know, but it's not an easy thing to do. It took some time. You broke a few hearts. Well, you know. I got mine messed with a little bit too. Like, you know. Yeah. Heard you. Yeah. But you stuck it out. So what did you see? What was the thing? what was the thing that attracted to you to her in the first place? So she is who she is. You know, so prior to that she, so we were working together. I hired her to do like some Kaleidoscope promo for me and she started following me on social media. She would leave like little nice comments. She would be on my live and she just was nice. And I was like is she being nice or is she being nice? You know what I'm saying? First of all. So, and then we used to DM every now and then. So she just was nice. And then I was, when I got, when she said we were, I was out here in Atlanta. I was doing this entrepreneurship tour. And she popped up there to surprise me. And she said, you know, she was like, let's link later. And I was like, okay. No, no, no, no. First of all, she was doing this Judy Dropping Knowledge tour. So I walk in this convention center and it's like five, 10,000 people. And I'm like, okay, what the fuck did this lady do? What is going on here? You just thought she was like a cute girl who. No, I, I, they hired me to do some stuff with kaleidoscope. So I just wanted to meet the owner. And maybe we, since I was in town and she was in town, we could do some more videos or something. So I stopped by to see her. Chylde had me waiting in the front a good 20, 30 minutes. I'm looking like, okay, I'm the brat. And I'm sitting here waiting on this lady, But she was making her way through the crowd signing pictures and autographs. So she finally got to me and it was so busy in the front. I was like, you know what? I'm going to the studio. Let's just link later. You know, I'm thinking, you know, she's going to bring the camera crew and everybody and all these people. She was like, cool. Okay, let's link later. So she gets to so, so deaf to the studio and she's by herself. And she get out with this long draping ponytail, jewelry, nails, cute ass outfit out of the car. And I'm like, where's your security of somebody? And so she said, I came by myself. I was like, okay. Now she had her little gun with her. But still, in a studio, it could be- You liked that, didn't you? I did. It was cute. It could be a thousand niggas in the studio. You know what I'm saying? It could have been a building that had 10 studios in it. You don't know where you come into in Atlanta. You don't just pull up by yourself. So anyway, she got in there and we just talking. I'm not interested in her like that. I don't even know she like women. so we talking and we talking about the things we interested in we talking about hair and making hair grow back in the in new orleans and chicago and atlanta and we just having good conversation and she goes i'm interested in you and i was like see excuse me what you thought you turned all soft it fucked me up really bad like i was like okay get your cool together my stomach started hurting like all kinds of things that I had never felt before. And I'm like, I'm thinking, how are you interested in me? You like women? Like you like me? It just threw me for a loop. I tried to, you know, drink some Hennessy, put the Hennessy cup to my mouth. It poured all over my shirt. Like I was really thrown off. Like my equilibrium or something was really fucked up. So I said, okay, you know, I'm going to roll a blunt. I'm going to be cool about this shit. I'll roll a blunt. The cherry, I must have rolled it tight enough. the cherry fell off the blunt and burnt the couch oh my god i said you know what okay this is not gonna work i was just fucked up after that like nervous shy i could barely talk like oh i didn't know what to do with myself so from there we started kind of like dating and then that's when she said that's when she said i ghosted her and because you were trying to figure out your life but i wasn't you know i didn't tell her yeah and i probably should have told her but i didn't want a loser. So are you like strict on your rules like when you see red flags or things like that? I'm not going to say because I didn care that she was cleaning stuff up It was the mixed signals because when we like after we had our break and we decided to start again she came clean and told me what it was and i gave her time i literally told her get all that shit together i'm not gonna give you a year but get all that shit together while we're doing what we're doing because i didn't stop dating her while she was cleaning it up. I gave her time to clean it up. It's just so mature. Say it. Yeah, say it. After she did it, I was like, oh, I love that bitch. We were in a car. I mushed her all in her head. She mushed me in my house. I was crying and everything. I was like, I'm so sorry. I don't give a fuck what you got going on. Get your shit together. You know, and we can make this work. I ain't gonna wait for forever. And you believed she would? Yeah. Yeah. Because she did. Yeah. She did. I didn't want to lose her again. Yeah. Because I had stalked her when she got with that nigga and I saw her on Instagram I was like oh hell no so I'm texting her she blocked me I'm texting her she blocked me because the nigga had apparently seen our exchanges and was like oh hell no he didn't want her talking to me and it's like she was with this nigga whatever like I'm it seemed like it had to be like six months to a year something like that so you know I'm checking the page every day I knew I had never felt like she made me feel and I ain't want to lose that. You know what I'm saying? I'm checking the page every day. And then it's like, okay, every week because every day made me feel like it ain't going to never damn happen. So I'm checking and I'm scrolling. Finally, after like, damn, it had to be seven, eight months. I don't know. The niggas' pictures wasn't on the page no more. And I was like, oh my God. There's my shot. There's my shot. I'm finna get in the DMs because she had blocked my number. So I'm like, hey, how you doing? Like, you okay? What's going on? How you been? like you know she was going through something in that situation because that nigga wasn't shit anyway so anyway it was meant for us to happen not saying it was meant for him to do what he did but it something in our cards made us come back together i mean clearly it was meant to be together you were meant to be together and now you've been married how long it's gonna be four years On the 22nd. How exciting that is. I know. Yeah, it don't even seem like that long. Yeah, I know. How has marriage changed, you guys? You know what? I have to curve my temper. I've had to learn how to be more patient. I've learned a lot of things. Like, I got a lot to lose now. I have a whole family, a son. You know, I learned how to listen more opposed to just responding to defend myself. This sounds like therapy has been involved. We had therapy a little bit. We don't do it now, but we did a couple times. We did when we was on the show. We did the show. And we did it one or two times after. Yeah. We still have a lot of things we're working on. We are a work in progress. You know what I'm saying? We're a couple like any other couple, any relationship. Shit ain't always sweet. You know what I'm saying? But the people that read the book, the influencers and everybody, they love it. They can't put it down. they pick it up and they don't stop till it's done what is the best lesson like about marriage that you've learned so far the best lesson one of our golden rules in the book is communication um and i think you have to communicate with your partner because if you disagree about something um shit you got to find a happy medium you know even if you don't agree all the way you got to find half that makes you happy and half that makes her happy and and meet in the middle like Like, what's an example? You got to know when you shut the fuck up sometimes. Always. You know what I'm saying? And I used to be good for keeping it going. Like, I ain't shutting the fuck up. You shut the fuck up. But now I just shut the fuck up. She can have it. You know what I'm saying? But that's two ways. Same way. She can have it. Yeah, I think we agree to. You choose your battles. I feel like when you fight, y'all probably fight. No. No? You know what happens is, I'm so mature now. Oh, my God. When we fuss or have a disagreement, she'll raise her voice. And when she start raising her voice, I'll be like, bring it down. Because if both of us start yelling, it's not going to be good. Yeah. So she will bring it down a notch. But then she'll take it the fuck back up. And then when she takes it back up, she'll walk away. Right. But I walk away to de-escalate. I'm not walking away to walk out of the conversation. I don't like it. You know, I'd be like, I can't do this right now. Like it's not that I don't want to entertain you. It's just this is about to be a screaming war or we're going to say something we don't mean or this isn't. Which we haven't done yet, by the way, and we won't. Right. I'm not in a place to be able to rationally talk to you about what we're talking about right now. So my mature action is to leave. But she hates that. I think it's disrespectful and I think it's rude. because if we in a heated conversation and i'm we sitting in the bed disagreeing about something and you get up and walk out and you just left me sitting in the bed and i'm just like where the fuck is you going and then she'll go do she's she compartmentalized as well so she'll go put this in a little compartment and go deal with some kaleidoscope stuff and and and be the ceo of the company and you sit in the bed and i'm sitting in the bed trying to figure out when we gonna resolve this situation you know and then we i don't like going to bed mad um in 2023 a story gripped the uk evoking horror and disbelief the nurse who should have been in charge of caring for tiny babies is now the most prolific child killer in modern british history everyone thought they knew how it ended a verdict a villain a nurse named lucy leppi lucy leppi has been found guilty But what if we didn't get the whole story? The moment you look at the whole picture, the case collapses. I'm Amanda Knox, and in the new podcast, Doubt, the case of Lucy Letby, we follow the evidence and hear from the people that lived it to ask what really happened when the world decided who Lucy Letby was. No voicing of any skepticism or doubt. It'll cause so much harm at every single level if the British establishment of this is wrong. Listen to Doubt, The Case of Lucy Letby on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Aquarian Visionary. Aquarius is all about freedom loving and different perspectives. And I find a lot of people with strong placements in Aquarius like are misunderstood. A sun and Venus in Aquarius in her seventh house spark her unconventional approach to partnership. He really has taught me to embrace people sleeping in different rooms on different houses in different places, but just an embracing of the isness of it all. If you're navigating your own transformation or just want a chartside view into how a leading artist integrates astrology, creativity, and real life, this episode is a must listen. Listen to the Spirit Daughter podcast starting on February 24th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your podcast. I'm Clayton Eckerd, and in 2022, I was the lead of ABC's The Bachelor. Unfortunately, it didn't go according to plan. He became the first bachelor to ever have his final rose rejected. The internet turned on him. If I could press a button and rewind it all, I would. But what happened to Clayton after the show made even bigger headlines. It began as a one-night stand and ended in a courtroom, with Clayton at the center of a very strange paternity scandal. The media is here. This case has gone viral. The dating contract. Agree to date me, but I'm also suing you. Please search warrant. This is unlike anything I've ever seen before. I'm Stephanie Young. This is Love Trapped. This season, an epic battle of he said, she said, and the search for accountability in a sea of lies. I have done nothing except get pregnant by the f***ing bachelor! Listen to Love Trapped on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to the A-Building. I'm Hans Charles. I'm Menelik Lumumba. It's 1969. Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr. have both been assassinated, and Black America is at a breaking point. Rioting and protests broke out on an unprecedented scale. In Atlanta, Georgia, at Martin's alma mater, Morehouse College, the students had their own protest. It featured two prominent figures in Black history, Martin Luther King Sr., and a young student, Samuel L. Jackson. To be in what we really thought was a revolution. I mean, people would die. 1968, the murder of Dr. King, which traumatized everyone. The FBI had a role in the murder of a Black Panther leader in Chicago. This story is about protest. It echoes in today's world far more than it should. And it will blow your mind. Listen to The A Building on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And she could just get some cereal or cook some dinner and go to bed and sleep well. And we'd be sleeping with our back towards each other. I hate that. Like, I don't like that. I'd be wanting some skin in that. I'd be wanting to scoop my booty over on it, you know, and get chapped. I don't like when we disagree and we don't resolve it. But sometimes we don't resolve it. And we need to do better at that. I'm a work in progress. And I told her I would work on it. I just try not to, you know. I try not to be angry. If we're trying to resolve something and we're really trying to come to a common ground, I know I can't talk to you in that state. Yeah. Because, bitch, I'm not thinking rationally right now. Because right now I won't cut you below your knees. like you know when Cardi B say she go to hell you go low she go to hell I go lower than that and I never want to be like that with her and she's never done that to me she's never said anything give her a break when she needs a minute to cool off yeah but then bring your ass back and we need to talk about it don't just forget about it all fucking day okay at least a pillow talk it out before we go to sleep come to some type of resolve don't just take your ass to sleep she said that's fair okay okay Look at you guys working through things in real time, in real life. Actually, I have some scenarios, relationship scenarios. Let's go through some of these. I thought they were pretty good. Because people can learn. Listen, everybody's trying to figure out how to do a relationship. Yeah. Nobody's perfect, and it's not easy. Nobody's perfect. Right. I have to find my cards. Here we go. In real life, couple scenarios. One partner needs space after a long day. While the other feels disconnected without immediate quality time. Who should adjust in that moment? The person who needs space or the person who feels disconnected? I think the person who feels disconnected. Because if a person needs space, they need space for a reason. Like if she needs space, it may be to clear her mind because she's got a lot of shit on her plate being the CEO of a company. so then I feel like I need to just give her some space and I can deal with my situation uh before we go to bed or when we lay down or you know whenever we can talk about it oh look at you compromise look at how cute y'all are okay in real life couple scenarios in real life a couple notices intimacy has slowed down but neither person wants to make the first move because they don't want to feel rejected who should break the silence both of them both either right because then even if you're not saying that then you can do little actions yeah you can touch that ass or stick your tongue in the mouth or ear or something yeah okay whatever works just yeah make the move i know that's not a hard thing make the move or maybe maybe in some people's relationship you know like example if a woman just had a child or something and she's just not for it. She might not just be for it. Emotionally, she might not be right. Hormonally. She can just explain that to her partner and they kind of understand. And not be mad. You gotta have a little patience, especially if somebody just had a baby or something that serious. One partner becomes more hands-on with parenting and the other one takes more financial responsibility. And they both feel stretched. How do you decide what fairness looks like in that season? How do you distribute parenting? that's a good question I think we kind of like that right now she is I be mommy in my ass off really? yeah and I work from home a lot she'll be having to put out all these fires and stuff I'll actually be at home but I'll be working so I'm not present and then when she get a break she'll come and play with us oh yeah and Stanky Man don't like me working so I will be in the middle of a Zoom he'll close the computer he don't care who I'm on a call with who I'm on a Zoom with he is going to close my computer or take my phone. Yeah, she takes mine too and sits it down. Like... Yep. Yeah. But she is more mommy. The active parent. Now, we both are. Yeah. But she gets to... But you feel no way about that? Does that ever feel... No, you okay with that role? No, I'm actually... Because I'm present. It's not like I'm missing. I'm present. And I might even be in the room. Like, we all in the room and we're all doing the thing. But I might have my computer out. Right. doing something. And then, or if it's something that I feel like, oh, this is important. Hey guys, I'm going to have to pick this up in a few. Let me call you back. Right. I want to get back to these because some of these are that good. But going back to that, because I know you talk about that in the book too, that moment of you at, you deciding that you were going to carry the baby. And you were like, why me? Right. Why did you think her? I didn't mind. And I told her that I I didn't care if I did it or not, but I know the person that she is. You know her well enough. You know she's the most nurturing person you'll meet in your whole entire life. Fuckin' them a swag. Fuckin' them a swag. So I knew she was going to enjoy the experience to the fullest. Because you had already had done it. Yep. Had done it three times. So it was for the experience you wanted her to have. Absolutely. And she did exactly what I wished for. She enjoyed every second. It was a good pregnancy. I didn't have a bad pregnancy at all. No, she didn't have morning sickness. She didn't have none of that. No pains. My ankle swelled up a little bit, but I thought that was cute. And my toes kind of was like Vienna sausages. Right. She had a scheduled C-section, so she never experienced labor pains. My stomach just got big and tight. But other than that, you know, learning all the things that pregnant women go through. And I had so many questions. Like I told my wife one time, my titties are not getting no milk. I'm not drinking enough milk. We got to get some more milk in the house. I got to keep drinking milk. Because I thought from drinking milk, your titties get milk. I know. It's stupid. Like, if you don't know, if you've never been a parent, you don't understand. Right. She liked it from when we first saw the little seed to when you got to see it as a certain size. And when the baby first kicked, all of the things, she thoroughly enjoyed it. I did. And she wouldn't change. And that is, that's our child together, but that's her son. Child. I know. I carry him. You know, my eggs was fried. We used her eggs and the donor. And, you know, being able to carry him, it was just everything. Why were your eggs fried? Because I'm old, bitch. Yeah, they be gone. At a certain age, they go. You still like a baby to me. No, you know, in your 40s, they go. Wait, how old were you when you carried? Oh, you were 49 when you carried? Yeah. Got it. So you had eggs. Yeah. You were like, let me get one of those. Yeah. Let's mix them things up and cook. Let's cook this thing. And the people had so many opinions about the complexion of your baby, about the color of your baby. Girl, I don't give a fuck about what the... She is the one that gave a fuck. I don't give a fuck about what them people say. We had to make a decision. So it wasn't that I gave a fuck. I think the missing thing in the storyline was what actually happened. What actually happened, you have to do genetic testing. And when you do genetic testing, it shows all of the things that I am a carrier of. And so when it showed all of the things that I'm a carrier of and we put that in the sperm banks thing, the registrants for black people went to zero. It did. Wow. People don't realize that that black men don't donate as much sperm as the rest of the races. So our chances of getting a black donor heightened our chances of our baby having an illness. So it was like there was no that there was no choice. but they picked up the sound bite of her fucking ass I don't want her to repeat it but she just was on our show we were scrolling and you know for the show you do stuff so we were scrolling this was before we did the genetic input she was scrolling and she was giving her opinion about the looks of different people and they caught the clip of one specific person that she talked about and they made it as if she was saying that about everybody and she wasn't so it's not that I care care what people say. I just wanted the truth out. I wanted the facts out. I didn't want it to just be, we chose this way because we didn't want that way. No, we chose that way because we had to. We didn't have an option. Right. I literally went on social media and I uploaded my genetic testing results and I said, y'all can take that shit. Go plug it in. Go on any sperm bank right now and plug all that shit in and tell me what you find. See, that's too much. Yeah, you know what that... They don't know shit about us. they don't know shit about. Fuck them people. Okay? It's about what makes us happy. Me and my family. It's fine. They was wishing death on our baby though. Absolutely. Fuck them people. Right. So when that was happening, I was like, nah, and my wife is pregnant, and my wife was very emotional while she was pregnant. And my wife was convicted of telling. Right. That too. And please. She's a shooter too. I was like, uh-uh. Uh-uh. Y'all doing too much. Y'all doing entirely too fucking much right now. Aw. It didn't take none of your joy away, right? It didn't. It didn't take none of my joy away. No, good. Because I don't look at it. I don't look at that shit. I don't read the blogs or stuff like that. What will you teach your baby about race, about that? Because they're going to have to come, he's going to have to come into a world where that exists. Yeah we just going to tell him We going to just keep it 100 with him and tell him and explain everything to him that he needs to know You know what I saying So that he understands everything And when people come to him anyway sideways things go left he be prepared to answer all of those questions He's going to know who he is, where he's from, why he's from. He's from New Orleans, by the way. He's from Chicago. He's from New Orleans. He's from Chicago. I'm not doing this. He was born in Atlanta, but I'm from Chicago. But he's from New Orleans. So he's from Chicago. You guys should figure this out. Yeah, he's from Chicago. He's from New Orleans. Chicago, yeah. He's going to love playing in the snow and stuff. You know, Chicago. And he's going to eat crawfish. No, the fuck he not. Yes, he is. I don't want him eating them little animals. He's going to love crawfish. It's too much work you have to do to eat. And then you suck the ass of an animal. It's not the ass. Well, you got to take the guts out of the cars and all this stuff. And then go for the littlest people fucking meet that don't even satisfy your appetite. At least get a crab leg. What is your hope for this book? What do you think want people to get from it? Learn from it. Learn from your relationship and your story. That it's never too late for love. It's okay to give second chances. It comes to you when you're not looking. Facts. If you've been hurt, don't project that on somebody else. Give yourself time to heal. Yeah, because she don't let me talk to my exes. we don't it's not yeah where did that come from because you were saying you know past relationships you know how did she just put it on purpose I just said that because you know a past relationship she had something happened with her ex talking to their exes so we don't do the she don't like you know but that's the thing you know people usually don't talk to their exes like that's the thing is it you talk to your ex well not in a relationship not in a flirting way but I feel like you don't leave the door open for the just in case. But there's a couple you let me still communicate with every now and then. Correct. For specific reasons. Right. For those reasons. But if you don't have any reason to keep in touch with them, you don't have to keep in touch with them. Not like, hey, how you doing? Checking on you? You don't want to hey, how you doing? I mean, because that can eventually turn into hey, boo, what's up? Or, you know, damn, I'm sad I don't get a chance at it or whatever because you just don't. You know I would never do that. No, not saying you. Okay. If you leave an open line of communication with somebody else and they're having a hard time and they think of you first. I feel like you just don't leave that door open for that even to be a thing. Like, don't even leave the door open for the disrespectful communication even try to happen. And please don't because I wouldn't play with her. Listen, this lady texts her ex about her pretty feet. Is this recently? This was in the beginning. This was in the beginning and it was when we first started dating, it was some of the cleanup that she had going on. And so this is supposed to be cleaned up and the lady sending her a picture of her feet and she said, oh, those are pretty. What is this? I thought this was done. Well, because my first thing was, why are you even still talking to her? Now see, because this is a recent ex then why are y'all still talking what y'all got to talk about what is that to talk about her feet oh no absolutely not this is why you can't this is why you can't talk to nobody okay just don't talk to nobody we have each other's we have the same pin numbers across all of our phones do you have like an open there's nothing to hot oh yeah we have my passcode is her passcode so yes now that still is privacy though right so my birthday is coming up right so if I know that something like that's coming up I'm not gonna go on her phone like that because I know she's probably trying to plan something whatever I'm not gonna ruin any surprise or anything like that but yeah I could but if you need to make a call and her phone is there you yeah you gotta pick up her phone or even if I wanted to go and I wanted to on my Instagram or yeah any of that right cause she she do social media sometimes but not like that so I'll be going in there for her doing the shit and you you scrolling through the DMs sometimes I told her though I deleted one recently because who the fuck was she talking to I wasn't talking to them no not you I'm talking to a person that was trying to talk to you I don't even look in my DMs like what I look at them like if I don't have a person's number that's a celebrity or my friend to communicate to them through there and be like no I know but I look through her DM today's show is brought to you by our presenting sponsor Hard Rock Bet Florida Sportsbook listen even if you're not the biggest football fan in the world, you are still tuning in and maybe you want to get in on the action too. 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So this is for you, guys. okay hi brad and judy my partner and i want to start a business together but i'm scared that if we break up then everything might fall apart i don't want the relationship to cause us success and i don't want success to cause us the relationship how do you decide if it's worth the risk to go into business with your partner? We have been able to be successful in business because of our setup. And that's because like in the house, so she loves the domesticated side of it, right? She loves, like, I don't have to take out the trash. I don't have to wash any dishes. I don't have to, I don't know when the housekeepers are coming. She handles all of that i handle all of the business side of it and the money so when it comes to stuff like that business for us was my decision so it's whatever i have the capacity to do and she supports it um so even when it comes down to her hair collection um i brought the stuff to her i brought a finished product to her i brought i brought a finished idea to her let her do her input but I carry the load of what that looks like when it came to the book even down to hey we should do the tour all of that she's going to show up but she's not doing the logistics she's not doing none of that so I'm saying that to say because I've also had a business with somebody in the past as well and it don't it don't always work successful like this one I think the only reason they work successful this time is because she lets me lead it and I like to do it. So I think the struggle that happens in relationships is a person might feel like they don't want to spend this much on this or they don't want to have to do this kind of work or they don't want to have to do... Because even down to her, when it came to the tour, she said, we're doing what? You want me to be away from my son for how long? You know, so I don't think it's a bad idea. I can tell you that it's very risky it is risky and I would never make I would because I don't sell people dreams I'm very transparent I was only worked because of our setup because you have clear roles correct she's willing to do it just don't make her do the logistics as long as I'm carrying the logistics and that works for us because I've never had to do all of that shit I just gotta do what I gotta do because you're an artist I'm an artist right right exactly since a little since a kid since a kid I know that. I don't handle the finances. I don't handle none of that shit. What's a routing number? That's the thing. See, because she hasn't ever had to do that. Yeah. So it actually works for you guys. Correct. Because you don't have to compromise how you do it. Correct. You can just handle it. Right. And then if I ever have an issue of questions, I didn't call the person that handles her stuff. Yeah. Thanks for your question, by the way, Tiara. But you also said this. you said even as a married couple when you're collaborating on business that it's important to keep paperwork in order. Correct. What does that mean? So when we did her kaleidoscope out of Brad My Line for Braves and Lops. I made sure she had a licensing deal. Even though it's... I didn't want one because I felt like whatever she makes, whatever I make, it's all together anyway. No, I wanted her to have her specific income off of that. I wanted to make sure that every single thing that we sold with her face and her likeness on it, she got residual. She got money off of it. Because, you know, the company, we're married but the company is I don't want her to feel like she's obligated to have to give me anything, you know. I don't want it. By the book she needed to sign the papers and make sure that she was getting her just due. Yeah. That's so sweet. She's looking out for you. I know. Right. But you said that you shouldn't just go into blind trust of your partner, that you should have paperwork. Correct. It has clear lines and clear, right. Correct. You have no opinion on this, do you? This is all her, right? Because I just feel like whatever I have, it's hers. We just share everything, period. I feel like we didn't need paperwork. If it was coming in from my face for Kaleidoscope, then it was just coming into Kaleidoscope. You just blindly trust her. I didn't care, yeah. But then the revenue needed to be sorted a certain kind of way. You know what I'm saying? I wanted to make sure that she got, per quarter, she got her earnings. So she also was able to know her earning potential. Because whether it was me or whether it was somebody else, she made millions. Yeah. Her portion. Yeah. It was just went into the millions of DuPont with the kaleidoscope stuff and recycled and did whatever it had to do. Just trust her. I do. 100%. Right, but see, because on the other side of it, Kaleidoscope is a business. It's its own entity. She needed to have something from that. Yeah. Instead of it just being a part of the revenue that's going to go into a line item for the budget. No, that's royalty. But I didn't mind that. So are there any rules? Like she asked the question, how do you know? Like, when is it good? Like, when should it? Do you advise it? Do you recommend in relationships to be in business? I think like-minded people probably could get away with it or people that are in a situation like this where they're different but they're one of them is strong in one thing and the other one is strong in the other thing you know as long as the strengths don't. Any business partner, that's a better fit anyway. So whether you're in a relationship or not, you should probably just decide if you're a good business partner separate from good relationship partners. Right, because the strengths also can't outweigh each other. Like it can't be, hey, this person is strong at making the place pretty and this person is strong at logistics, the cooking. And y'all got a restaurant, the cooking, the hiring, the this. It still should be where it's fair. because then when somebody's burned out, they don't want to do it no more. And holding all the weight. Yeah. All right. That's really good. All right. In real life, let's go to our bowl now. Good job, beautiful. Oh, my God. You guys are too cute. 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A bucket list Like a bucket list thing I don't have a bucket list She don't, we talk about that I would like to work with Anderson Pack. Okay. That's cute. I would like to do a whole project with Anderson Pack. Wow. Yeah, I think he's amazing. I would like to have more time with my family. That's a goal of mine. I would like to not have to be so, so hands-on in my business every day. So I would love to just build a strong enough team to not be as taken away. That's funny because when you were talking about that before, it seemed like it didn't bother you. but it probably does bother you sometimes. Before we had a baby, I told her that I was really working hard to make sure that once he came, I could be more present than I was in the past. But you were mom young, right? Yeah. First 15. 15. 15, 17, 19. I can't imagine. You know what? That's so inspiring that you were able, because that could have taken a lot of people down. Like, how do you even... And she got put out. What do you mean? She got put out the house. At 17. At 17. So you're 17. at that point you have what two kids yep well i said i was pregnant you were pregnant i got put off getting pregnant again for your second and where did you go uh i moved in with my baby daddy how'd that go it didn't work right yeah it didn't work but i mean it it wasn't supposed to yeah right it wasn't supposed to i believe that yeah it wasn't supposed to um but how inspiring though because you know it's hard it's hard to Don't even do that, just do that part of life. Yeah. Being a single mother. Being a single mother with them kids that young, still probably learning who you are. Yeah. You don't even have a grasp of who you are at 15 or 17. I say that. So I feel like according to the world standards, I shouldn't be where I am. According to the world standards. But I also feel like adversity builds you and builds your character. Like I'm a Hurricane Katrina survivor, you know? So I experienced the loss of everything and having to figure out how to get it back So I feel like those skills of having to be a mother figuring it out for my family lose everything get it back makes you feel like anything is possible and you don't be scared to take risks because what's the worst that can happen? I'd have lost everything before. Yeah. I don't like that shit. I don't like gambling and taking risks. Were you in Katrina with your kids? Were you in New Orleans or in Katrina with your kids? I was in New Orleans with my children when Katrina happened. We evacuated, though. I can't imagine. Oh, so you weren't in it. You evacuated all of New Orleans? You were gone? So there was a hurricane that happened right before Katrina. And so I think a lot of people don't take into account that in order for you to evacuate, you have to have money. And you have to have money and be away from your job. You have to lose money and have money. so a lot of New Orleans had just evacuated for the hurricane that came before so when it was time to evacuate again because the first one that we evacuated before ain't shit happened like people were taking their furniture and everything so then when the second one came a lot of people stayed because they had just depleted what they had the first time so we evacuated but we evacuated very late so we made it i think it was like i don't know the sunday before um and i had joint custody with my kids so my but you're a single you're a single mother at the time right yeah and so my children's father um had my boys and then my daughter was at the time uh at my mom's house spending the weekend and so hey where y'all going we just gonna meet up later you know it's just like because we thought we was leaving and coming right back because we had just did that so he had it he was heading to um i think atlanta um and my mom and them were heading to a different part of louisiana that wasn't supposed to be impacted um and then you know once you realize you're not going bag like once you realize oh this ain't a you know because then even even the bags that you pack were far lighter because you had just packed your whole house before so now you packed the i didn't a weekend bag i didn't realize that yeah yeah so it took everything the yeah the second one katrina took everything and you packed lighter because you thought it was bullshit because the person was easy everybody did though that's why a lot of people stayed a lot of people felt like well why did all those people stay? Them motherfuckers had just left. We had just left. We had just, I remember packing up even furniture and putting it in one of those U-Hauls you connect to the back of the thing. But then, bitch, I'm not about to do that again. Are we not about to go through? We just went through this, you know. So what did you do when you realized it was bad? And that. I was, I think the thing that killed me and it still makes me emotional. I couldn't get in touch with my kids. Oh. like the phones were fucked up like my my baby daddy had my boys and i don't know where they went i didn't know if they had made it out and so it was days that passed and then i find they finally called me and i will never forget i dropped to my knees because i was just so thankful because the direction that he was going in which he wound up pivoting and diverting took got water so I thought that they had went somewhere that had gotten water but they didn't so I convinced him I'll never forget this because we weren't in a relationship but you know a mom gotta do what a mom gotta do I told him well hey if you come to Houston maybe we can work on our relationship wow she just wanted her boys I wanted my children wow and I kept my word we tried yeah maybe two hours she ain't shit she ain't shit but yeah so oh my god but evacuated started to start over you did what you had to do yeah and at the time I actually was saving up for a salon so I had I had some money it had like I don't know probably 5,000 I might have had maybe like 2,300 between 2,000 and 5,000 dollars so I had enough for us to survive for a while but I didn't qualify for a lot of those things. I was living with my mom. So she, you had to have an address that nobody else had claimed to qualify for a lot of things. And since it was my mama's residential address, I didn't even try to apply for half of the things because I didn't want my mom to be impacted. Right. So I just... So you were left with nothing. Yeah, but that's fine because I had a skill. So I snuck back into New Orleans before we were supposed to. And it just so happened that the salon I was working at didn't take a lot of water. So I snuck back into New Orleans. I got the pictures of my, because I used to do hair, got my photo book, and I went back to Houston because that's where a lot of people from New Orleans were, and they got their FEMA checks. And I went in the most ratchet mall out there. It was called Sharp Style Mall. I moved around Sharp Style Mall, and I put out flyers. I went to Kinko's, and I made flyers of the hairstyles that I did. And it was New Orleans hairstyles. it was I would write New Orleans and people hair and like I did these big old like the things that New Orleans girls were used to so I knew that there would be a demand for that right so I put out flyers walk them all and I wound up started getting clients and so I started working right away right after Katrina probably it was less than two weeks wow yeah it was less than yeah absolutely isn't it crazy women still want to get their hair done your house could be gone You can rebuild in your life, but you still want to get your hair done. You want to sense of normalcy. So if where I'm at, the food don't taste the same, this ain't the same, that ain't the same, I at least want to look the same. I don't want to have to change all of that. So I was able to get clients, and then eventually people started going back to New Orleans, and the girls in New Orleans were needing me more than the girls in Houston. So I was traveling to New Orleans and staying there for three or four days. And then I was just like, I need to go back because this don't make no sense to stay out here. And they need me more out there. And eventually I went back. Wow. So, but I said, surviving, losing everything makes you feel like anything is possible. And you don't be scared to take a risk. Oh, that's good. Because a lot of people's fear is what stops them from trying their dreams. Yes. Pushing past their boundaries. Right. Like, like you have, it's almost like you have to have a traumatic experience of losing everything to know that it's not that scary. So after you've been through something like that, and it's not just Hurricane Katrina survivors, but anybody that's, you know, because I think, didn't New York have something where there was like some water or something? Yeah, we've had storms and we had 9-11. We had 9-11. Exactly. So when you lose everything, you just know that you have to rebuild your life. Yeah. And it's not that it's impossible. Yeah. You just do it. Yeah. You don't stop. No wonder you love her. See, can't you see? What you do to me? Oh, my God. Yes. She started talking that shit right there, and you were like, oh, my God. Oh, my God, yeah. I love her. I love her. I love her from her toenails to her hair problems. I want her to do everything in life that she wants to do. I think that's the thing that we haven't aligned on. Like, when we first started doing life, and I'm like, hey, this is going to be, you know, it's going to be a ride. It's going to be a roller coaster. You know, if there's anything you can, if there's anything you want in life, I feel like you can attain it. So as I'm doing my goals, I'm like, well, what does she want? Let's make sure that we, you know, and she just like, whatever you like. I hate when you do that shit. You make me feel like the bitch from coming to America. What's her about you like? No, that's everything. Whether that's vacation, even down to what kind of business? Like, I was like, do you want a restaurant? You have income coming in. You have things we can be doing. What do you want to do? I don't care. What do you want? I live my life every day for that day. I don't. Whatever she want to do, I'll do. I want to do. Whatever she want to eat, I'll eat everything. I don't care. If she wants to go somewhere, I've been everywhere. I'm an artist. I've been to London, Paris, Antigua, Japan, Africa. All of that shit. There's nothing that I want to do in life. Like, I don't have a bucket list. I want to jump out of a plane. I don't want to go to the whoever. Like, I've done all of that. I just want to be a great wife and a great mommy and be with my family. And whatever my wife wants to do that she hasn't done, I want to do that with her. Like, I don't care about things like that. Like, there's nothing that I want to do or no place I want to go. like oh it's beautiful that i want to go there i don't care about that i've been every fucking layer but if she wants to go but if she want to go i'm going with her and i want to make her have a good time come on guys what that's so cute she'd be wanting me to say what i'm like i don't care what we eat she'd be like make her be saying like okay let's eat oxtails fuck it i don't know and then she might not want Oxails. That's why I said you decide. No, but if you say Oxails, I eat it. I know. What are you two going to be like, Lord willing, gives you a long, full life? Like, what are you two as older women going to be like? She is going to be looking out the window every day at our neighbors wondering what they're doing. Am I a nosy bitch? No, you're not nosy. That's it. You just, you so, because she cares about everybody. And not like nosy, but she cares. if she found out that something happened if you had foot surgery and you posted something about she might text you randomly say hey I'm just checking on you is everything okay do you need anything I see you have foot surgery I can send groceries to you like that's just who she is right so that's how she is and who she is and that's who she gonna be she gonna be she'll be taking care of the neighborhood I'm gonna be taking care of her and we gonna be taking care of each other just like we do now and having our son come take care of us girl how have your kids adjusted to this new your new family my kids okay i ain't gonna say my kid i i raised them to um love first so when it came to us actually having um true i told them they were my youngest son was like i've been one of the brother and i'm like okay well now you get one but a long time ago I'm like all right whatever but they don't they they love him but they don't you know I feel like this this generation of kids right now in that at that age I have a 27 25 26 I feel like something like that I feel like um it's three of them and they somewhere in there yeah um I feel like their own thing right their own lives right one of them live with us that we We see them sometimes. Her daughter lives in New Orleans with her grandbaby. Because they're grown. They're all grown. Yeah. We have a grandbaby. I have a grandbaby and her and True play together. That's funny. They're best friends. Because what, she's five? Yeah, she's five. And he's her uncle. Right. But they run around the house and they just have a ball. I'm talking about they fall asleep with each other. That's amazing. And it makes her cry and want to have another baby. when it's time for my grandbaby to go. But yeah, they love him. They know my nerves. In real life, what are you most proud of about yourselves and each other? Oh, about myself. The thing that I'm most proud of for myself is I did a Judy Dropper Knowledge Tour some years ago and I was able to teach over 20,000 people entrepreneurship, But in that time, over 5,000 people gave their life to Christ. Wow. Because I held it in churches intentionally. So that was like a mega, you know, like, you know how you can give the word. That was like I was able to do that many people in a short amount of time. So that I am super successful for. I mean, I feel super successful. Super proud. Yeah. I think I'm proud that I'm the first female rapper to ever sell a million records. Yeah, because I didn't plan that. I just wanted to be a rapper and wanted the world to know me and sing my songs. History. History. Proud to be a part of history and be in museums and stuff like that. People call me like, yo, you in the museum? And I'd be so excited. Like, wow, I'm in museums. So thanks to JD for that, too. Yeah. Love JD. Yeah, me too. What about for each other or together in this season of your life? People get to witness this, learn from you, sharing so much in your book. I'm sure there's people that feel seen by you guys sharing so openly and honestly. I don't know. I'm sure that means something to you. I'm just curious. Yeah. So I don't know how to answer that question. As far as what I'm most proud of for her. No, I think together. What you're doing, the work you guys are doing now. I think how you're showing up in the world now. Yeah, I think we should be proud that we had a successful reality show that helped people, that we have a great relationship. You know what I mean? Like we talk to each other. We're still a work in progress, but we're still here and we are still in love with each other and we love our child. And, you know, we go through situations, but we know how to get through them. You know what I mean? Like, we're adults. We two grown bitches just living the life and being happy. And, you know, we go through things and we're still here and we love each other. So good. It's Brett and Judy in real life. Wait, before you go, my last question, it's in the bowl. It's one of my favorites. We ask everybody. If God were to text you right now, what would he say? oh honestly if he would have texted me he would tell me um get back focused on my purpose which is uh i feel like he gave me this platform and all of these things to continue to show people how um anything is possible as long as you have faith you can have faith of the mustard seed actually carry around the mustard seed um you have the actual mustard Yeah, it's in my purse. I do. I'm going to give you one. I would love that. At least I could use one. Yeah, I think that's the thing. I think right now I've been trying to troubleshoot and fix so many things that it's become more about numbers and logistics than it's become about purpose. So your profit is never supposed to oversee or outweigh your purpose. That's good. I got to follow that. oh I'm sorry and so the text would say get back focused on your purpose I think by the way in you even saying that refocused you I mean you just offered me a mustard seed I don't know how much more in your purpose you're supposed to be you know what I'm saying right gee don't look at me after that come on what you got what is God going to text you I think God would tell me to go to church more and to focus on my music more and do what I really love doing, no matter how I feel the industry is now or not. Just do it because it's what I love to do. Music is my favorite thing. Get back to it? Get back to it. Both of your texts say get back to it. Get back to your purpose. Get back to your music. Focus on what you love and who you're here, who you're meant to be. You know, what you're meant to do while you're here. I wish you guys many, many, many, many years of this type of love. Thank you, Angie. And go get the book, everybody. Yes, please go get the book. 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