the world. Now on 105.9 FM and screaming worldwide on the W M. L. A O'Connor and company. You and me. Yeah. It's 737. You're listening to O'Connor and company on this Wednesday morning in your nation's capital. The day after we came to the brink of Armageddon. And I'm going to be talking about the story of the world. And I have a point after 10 years of Donald Trump in our lives with the tweets and the true social posts and the statements and the this and that. How is it people are paid for a living to analyze this man and they consistently misread him and get him wrong. I just I literally don't understand it. It boggles my mind or they're just. Purposely being more on just for their own political. I think I think you got something there. Yeah I think that may be the secret sauce being being being being being being being being being being being being being being being being being being being being being being being being being being being being being being being being being being being being being being political pundits and observers and analysts, the smartest man that I've ever met in the political realm. And I, oh, we didn't get, we didn't get him. We got Sean Spicer instead. Oh, all right. All right. Well, that, no, Sean's good too. Sean's good. He's the host of the Sean Spicer show, of course, evenings at six p.m. on every video streaming platform, as well as the DC huddle every morning at eight 30. That's while we're still on the air. So I don't know why you would watch that. Sean, good morning. Thanks for joining us. Well, Jack Diamond, it's an honor to be with you. I've been here on the DMV for decades. Always want to be on with Jack Diamond. Thank you for having me. It's the other radio show. It's not Jack. Jack's Jack's has not been on the air for like 10 years now in this town. That's what Sean. Yeah. Is this WMZ Q? Anyway, Sean Spicer joins it. By the way, Sean's got a new book coming out called Trump 2.0. And he's the perfect person to analyze the second Trump term versus the first Trump term. Because obviously he was involved in the first one first go around, and I'm wondering you've already gone to press. So you are you going to write like some of the end of them on the whole around situation because this has been a remarkable thing to witness over the last five weeks, isn't it? Yeah, first of all, the funny thing is I literally got the book yesterday. So it is, you know, I have it in hand. Wow. What a feeling that is. But well, I'll tell you, when you actually get it in your hand, you know what this is like. It's sort of like a Christmas when you realize, wow, there are presents under the tree. But and before we end the segment, I think we will tease a little event that may be coming up. But I want to the funny thing is to your exact question. After I get by, if I open the book that I now have from 2.0, and I get beyond the forward that a guy by the name of Donald J. Trump has written for the book, and I get to the introduction, this gets to your question. It says one of the difficulties of writing a book named Trump 2.0, is that the president is constantly making America great again. By the time this book goes into production, there will be new people policies and processes that are making the United States once again, works for the American people. And it's true. I mean, I was writing it. And the funniest part about this is we were literally like final, you know, at the dead double double their deadline. And Kristi Noem was fired that day. And the editor goes in and says, I have like an hour I can go get her out of the you know, because I talk about the different cabinet members. Amazing. And I'm like, look, we need to get it if we can, let's keep it the most up to date as we can. So I got Kristi Noem out, Pam is still in. So you do it. Yeah, that's pretty amazing. Sean, you know, I'm really looking forward to reading this book. This is and it really is it's such an interesting topic to focus on like the legacy that will be from from this part of the administration or this this term. What do you see as the groundwork? What's the big takeaway that you were able to preview in the book as one of the, you know, the big differences between this term and term Trump 1.0? So I love that question, because this is not like, I looked at this as like a research project, and try to analyze the difference. And here's the central premise. And I literally had the honor to talk to the president in the oval the other day about this. He is the second president ever in our history to have two terms in office that weren't sequential. And the first one in modern history, right? And part of the premise of the book is if you if you just keep going every day, so you actually have a normal second term sequentially, then Tuesday becomes Wednesday, the chief of staff keeps going, whatever projects it was on your desk, you pause, you go to the inauguration, you do a twirl at a ball. And then the next morning, you continue on that project. When you have four years out of office, you actually have time to stop and reflect and think, what will I do different? And the funny thing is the president said to me in the oval the other day, he was shown, you know, we had a great first term. And I said, Mr. President, this isn't about undermining or demeaning the great achievements of the first term. But I talk about the examples we mentioned some of the people. The president, I remember we're at Bedminster and Jim Mattis had been floated as a potential defense secretary. He flew up, he met with them. And then on December 5th, we picked him up on the plane flew to North Carolina and announced him at a rally. But that was the extent of the interaction. You can express that to Pete Hakeseth, who the president has known for like 15 years. This is there is and I can go through the answers. You think about just the staff, right? Stephen Schoen, he worked with me on the first campaign and in the first president. Now he's the coms director Caroline Levitt. She worked with Kayleigh in the first he has a familiarity with these people that didn't exist in the first term. Right. And secondly, they understand the mission very differently. We had a lot of people in the first term that checked a box. Oh, they're qualified to be the assistant secretary for water evolution at the Department of HUD. No offense. I mean, I'm sure that's a I don't want any of your listeners that worked at HUD, but like people are just recommending people from the president say, okay, if you say so, that's great. This time he's intimately involved in the people. There was a lot of vetting done that wasn't done in the first term. There were organizations like the Heritage Foundation and America First Policy Institute that helped craft things. So on day one, they were ready to go. And like I said, I think if you're a student of politics, we're just a political geek and really into this, like part of what I want people to do is not like, you know, when sometimes if someone wins a game, you know, that's a great game. And if you're the coach of the game, it wasn't just a great game, like you we put so and so at forward and we move this person around and we instituted this play, like understanding the nuances of why we won and why we're successful. I think it's important whether you love Trump or not, because I think understanding the game is critically important. I know people who listen to WMAL, this is why you listen. You guys have bring insightful guests on like me. And then and you and so I but this is exactly the point is that if you love politics, this is going to be a book that you want to underst you'll read to get a graph of why this is different and historic. Well, to be fair, people are buying it because Donald Trump wrote the forward and that's fine. That's why you listen to whatever whatever I know, I know whatever works. If you had this experience, when people say, Hey, Sean, I bought the book, I haven't read it. I'm like, Hey, good, good, great for you. You had me. I bought the book. Right. You had me. I bought the book. You know, or I went on Amazon and I'm like, Okay, that's all I need you to know. Like, and that's the beauty. Now, I hope you do read the whole thing. But yeah, no, so Sean, can you again, I tease you all the time because you're a friend and a friend of the program and you but you are one of the most insightful and your mentor and your mentor and my mentor in every possible way, especially in fashion choices. Sean, what do you make of I've been really focusing on the last 24 hours, I've just checked your social media feed, you have not been running around with your hair on fire, you have not been ringing your hands that the president is about to nuke Iran and devastate the civilization you you sort of appeared to recognize the president's hyperbolic rhetoric and take it for what it was. It seems like this this has been the narrative over the Iran campaign. Oh, it's a disaster because the Strait of Hormuz is closed. Trump needs to do something about the Strait of Hormuz. Trump then threatens Iran with a devastating escalation unless they open the Strait of Hormuz. Everyone says that he's a warmonger and he's guilty of war crimes and needs to be removed with the 25th Amendment. Then he announces a ceasefire that results in the opening of the Strait of Hormuz. And all of his critics are now saying that he chickened out. Can you please explain that progression in how people analyze what just happened? There's two sides to that. The people who hate Trump, no matter what he does, if Iran literally came and bended me and said, here's everything you've asked for, they'd say, you know, look, you made them kneel and they hadn't stretched yet. They would have some critique of whatever he does. So I don't really care about what his critics say. I've said this from the beginning of Trump 1.0. Worry about the results. And the question is, is Iran less of a threat than it is today? Yes. In fact, I will be honest with you, I actually want him to finish the job. I want to make sure that they never threaten us again. I think he has been right about this issue. And not just recently, right? Go back to Trump's warning about Iran since 2015. And I think he's absolutely right. And I want to keep terrorism, you know, on someone else's shores, not ours. So I actually have been a big believer that frankly, the bigger issue in my opinion was the lack of messaging on the threat as opposed to like economic issues. Because that's, I think if Iran, Iran, you know, not just a threat to its region and to our service members and embassies and assets and the least, but they chant to death to America, I take them at their word. So I think the end result has to be, did we get them to be less of a threat and stop worrying about the tactics? Who cares? I mean, look, if you threaten somebody and then from at least some of the actions reporting this morning, I'm not sure I entirely buy it, by the way, but Khomeini was very much like fine, cut a deal, make a deal. And if they felt threatened enough that they knew that there could be an uprising or whatever, it doesn't really matter if they felt like, hey, he's going to go through with this. And that's what caused an act. Then great. Who cares? Why? Yeah. Who cares indeed? All right, Sean, real fast, you said something about an event that we should know about. What's going on? What do you tell me? Yeah, listen, I don't have the link set up yet, but I am, I, this is a WMAL, garagedoorrepair.com exclusive, but I am hosting a book event at the Kennedy, Trump Kennedy Center on Friday, May 15th. And after going, and I, I did actually talk to Jack Diamond and Bert and, and all those, and no one can do it. I forgot about Bert. Thanks for, thanks for reminding us of Bert. Bert was always such a joy in the coffee room, I'll tell you. I do. I love Bert. Anyway, so, so here's the deal. We are going to do a discussion about the book and a literal reception afterward at the Trump Kennedy Center with Larry O'Connor. That's you. Wow. On the 15th. And I'm excited because look, even again, this goes back to the book thing. You know, even if you don't care about the book, but you want to see the Trump Kennedy Center before it closes for a couple of years, come out on Friday night. The event is free. We'll have some more information, but if you go to Sean, you know, if you just go to SeanPiccer.com and send us a note at contact, there's a little thing there. We'll put you on the list. But, but look, go check out the Trump Kennedy Center, come hear about the book, listen to Larry. I mean, I'll bring candy. Let me just, can I do, can I do this for you, please? Because you're just, you're all over the place. Here's what you need to do. Come hang out with Larry O'Connor at the Kennedy Center on May 15th. It's free to all. And Sean Spicer will be hanging out with his book while you're there. There. That's how you get people out. Okay. Oh, gosh, the publisher's going to get so mad now. We totally, uh, that we're trying to, you know, the Trump Kennedy Center, Larry and Sean, Sean and Larry. It's going to be a little bit. Michael Shelton, are you there? Michael's telling me we got to go to traffic. Goodbye, Sean. Take care. SeanSpicer.com for everything as well as the Sean Spicer show and the morning huddle. Next roll with Vernon Davis, the transformative journeys of athletes, artists and entrepreneurs. Ladies and gentlemen, lights out Sean Merriven. I want to be the biggest and the best when I do. And so whatever it takes, I'll get it done in business and everything else. All I do is know how to fight and earn what I want. My man, Malik asks, what actor, comedian, what you want to collaborate with? Me, Jamie Foxley, Kevin Hart in a movie. We said it on Vernon Davis podcast, so we'll circle back. 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