Inside the Data Center Boom | May 21, 2026

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They did ask him like, would you have done anything differently? Which he kind of answered. Tell my identity. No. Well, I think they did say, they were talking about Ole Miss specifically, but then Big Cat asked him about most of the places you've left. There's been turmoil. Do you think you kind of draw that sort of ire upon yourself? But they did a good job. I was just messing with PFT. I would ask them, what is your goal as a head coach? What is your goal as far as like, I would think clearly it's not legacy, right? Because usually like, college coaches that want to succeed in that high fashion, I think they usually like sticking to one place and building that out for their own as their own legacy. But this, he's had like four or five of the most prestigious jobs a college coach can have. And it's like, I would just like, what is your goal here? Like, I assume he's like, it's to win. I would probably drill down more than that if he just said to win. I think it's pretty clear this is me hypothesizing, but he could have stayed at Ole Miss, a program which he had built to be very competitive, very successful, forever, never been fired. He may have won and they damn near won the national championship last year after he left. He could have won a national championship there. Is it as easy as it is at LSU? No. But he could have done it. He would have had a statue outside the stadium. He would have had a street named after him. I think it's pretty clear he is after, I think he has some vanity. No pun intended given his recent interview in Vanity Fair. That's something I would have asked about. But yeah, I think he wants to, he likes being in the headlines and that's fine. You know, there's a place for that. He just wants to be like the college football Kim Kardashian. He is a successful enough coach to continue getting opportunities that give him the ability to remain in the limelight. I don't disagree with that. That is the thing I noticed about a lot of some of college coaches. A lot of them fail upwards too. There's a lot of falling up in college football. See, I think that about the NFL. I'm not saying that doesn't happen in college, but the NFL just rehires the same, you know, between head coach and coordinators, there are what 66 or 96, excuse me, head coaches and coordinators and they just rehire the same ones all the time. Like it's very rare that they hire a guy from college or that, you know, someone, you know, new climbs the ranks. It's always the same guys. I'm sure there's exceptions to this, but from my experience, if you got talented cats in the league, you're going to win. Right. To me, college is more of a developmental ground. For sure. College makes a good college coaches. Hey, you got to teach them how to be a young man. I think that aspect of college has kind of gone down the wayside because of the money aspect of it. It's hard for a kid to listen to a coach and say, hey, you got to be on time. You got to be accountable. You got to do this. You got to do this. If I'm making two million dollars a year, it's hard because that would be the levers that you hold over the kid's head. It's like the reasons why you need to do these things so you can set yourself up to be a successful person. What does it mean to be a successful person? But now it's like I'm walking to college. I'm a millionaire or hundreds of thousands of dollars. Even like 50 grand, if I get 50, 60 grand, that's a lot of money for a kid. I just can't see the developmental part happening anymore, which is why I feel like a coach like Len Kiffin kind of is what college football is now. Like whatever, man. So I'll just get this money together and play good ball. To your point about development, to show you how old of a concept that is now, Tennessee this year is either going to start a red shirt freshman who was a very high four star at quarterback or a true freshman who was a five star at one point, the number one quarterback in the country. It used to be even five years ago, that was an enviable position to be in that you would have those two guys competing, all right, whichever one of them comes out, that's going to be your guy. Sure, they're young, but very talented players. People talk about Tennessee next season as if they don't have a quarterback. Like that they're just going to play with 10. Like oh, you didn't get a senior $5 million transfer in the portal. Oh, you're dead. Having two guys compete for the job used to be the way it worked. That's how it used to go. Yeah, the landscape has changed and now it's good business to go get somebody who has been through the college system a little bit. I agree with that. If Tennessee had gotten one of the transfer quarterbacks this year, I would have been thrilled in doing that and you let those guys sit for another year, whatever. But it used to be that you had to develop your own players. Yeah. That was part of the skill set of being a coach. And also, who was it that said it? That was like, it was a part of a character development from the athlete's point of view. Like I remember when I was coming out, my Redshirt Freshman year, they were playing and I've told him this to his face and plenty of times afterwards. My Redshirt Freshman year, I actually was behind Montario Hardesty. And he is actually, I don't know if I've ever told this story. We were playing Ole Miss. We're playing Ole Miss and he had started to beat me out. And the Ole Miss game came and Troubeta Taylor, our running back coach, the jail rigs was the start at the time. He calls Montario and I'm right there by Troubeta and he don't hear him. And he's like, Terry, Terry, Terry. And everybody's like, I don't know. I don't know. To the dad, actually, I didn't even ask him where he was. But I think it was Ole Miss. But he puts me in. So he puts me in and I do pretty well. And then I come back out. Montario comes in a little later on. I think he tears his ACL. And from that standpoint, I took my games to the next level. And we kind of traded carries from here and there. But that kind of changed the trajectory of my career. Excuse me. But what developed me most as a player was that competition of, I used to, I was a film junkie. So I used to sit in the film room and just over consume that stuff. And so I watched all of his practice reps. And I was very single in his practice reps, Montario. I was like, what is it that he's doing that I'm not doing that, that the coaches love about it so much? And I figured it out. He was disgusting at getting upfield. It doesn't matter what. Like I had a tendency when I first got, because I was so much faster than everybody in high school, I would just beat everybody to the edge. Well, in college, guys are a lot faster. And so they cut off that angle. And so they coach you to get upfield. And so we didn't have anybody on a roster previously or to that point that got upfield the way that he did. He was explosive as shit. One of the most explosive people I've ever seen get up the field. And so when that clicked, I implemented that into my game during the offseason. I got upfield, I exploded. That's part of the reason why I developed the dead leg, which helped me so much in the NFL. And I've told Montario that for years afterwards, I was like, dog, you spearheaded my career because you were so good at it that I had to study why you were, why does the coaches like let you so much? But it was that competition that I saw something he was better than me at. And I took it upon myself as a challenge to get better at that shit so that I could develop more of my game so that the coaches put me on the field. It feels like that kind of shit is gone, or at least it's fading away. That kids aren't necessarily scared of the competition. They're just like, well, if y'all don't see my value, then somebody else will, which is not untrue. It's just competition, especially in the athletic field, that shit breeds greatness. If you're that kind of person, if you cut from that kind of cloth, which I, again, I feel like I was the best ever. And I feel like every athlete should feel like that. But if you run into somebody that's better, what does that do to you? How do you react to that situation? And then you take this in life as well. I tell people at a time, it's like, dog, if somebody has a better value set, or somebody, they see value in somebody else more than you, what are you going to do to outwork that, to change that perception? And it says it's a character trait. But anyway, that was an extremely pivotal point in my career, in my life. And I just felt like that shit's gone, dog. Like, he's just leaving. In the scenario you're describing, a ton of guys do this. They're like, all right, well, I'm not playing at Tennessee, so I'm going to enter the portal and I'm going to, you know, I'm going to go to Ole Miss or Texas or whatever. They're not looking for guys who weren't playing at Tennessee. They're looking for guys who either were playing at Tennessee or were tearing it up at Tulane or James Madison or whatever. So then you end up transferring to Texas State. And then it turns out you're not as good as you thought you were. And now you're at Texas State and you're not playing or you're not playing well. And then now you try to transfer again and now nobody wants you and you end up just in the portal and you have no job anywhere. That is actually a good, I wonder, there's got to be some kind of stats of the success rate. There is. I saw it the other day. Let me find it for you. I would love to see that while you're looking for it. But like the stats of the success rate of the transfers, because when you transfer, what I think, if I go to a big school, if I go to Ohio State and I'm like, well, they don't want me, I'll go somewhere else. If you go to another big school, I feel like that's probably good. But let's say you do it again or a big school isn't interested in you because they're looking for somebody who could play now. You go to a smaller school. Like the big schools have the better coaches. They have the better facilities. They have the better infrastructure around being an athlete. I tell college kids who ever ask for advice all the time, like, dog. Colleges have, it is a haven. It is a, it is a, it is everything that you need is there. They have nutritionists. They have weight rooms. They have coaches. They have experts, therapists, anything that you need to get better. If you decide to get better, you will get better there. So like take advantage of all of that stuff. If you go to a smaller school, I'm sure they have a similar infrastructure around, but it's not like the big colleges. It's nowhere near. Like if you, I mean, shit, last time I walked into the Tennessee facilities, I was like, man, if I had this shit, I'd have been way better. Yeah. I mean college, I don't know what the top NFL facilities are, but big time colleges are way nicer than NFL facilities. It's not even close because they're not recruiting. Right. You know what I'm saying? You're stuck there. You got what we got. Yeah. It is what it is. And it's not only that, it's like, and they have nutritionists and they have staff and stuff like that. But at that point in time, you are the CEO of your own business. Like I was the CEO of Aaron Foster Incorporated. So I had to take it upon myself to invest in my body, to invest in my mind, to invest in my nutrition, to further my career so that I can continue getting the income that I wanted. It's on you at that point. Cause they're just like, you know, we have a, we have a farm system that's never ending. Then we're actively trying to replace you all the time. And so fuck off if you want to, somebody else will come and get a job done. That's how I look at it. That's how it is. But I think a lot of times kids don't understand that aspect of it and they don't understand that opportunity and youth is wasted on the young. But like the opportunity that you have in those college systems, man, sometimes I wish I could just, if I could do that shit for like a month, I'd be in the best shape of my life. If I could go sit, go, go live in a dorm room at the university of Tennessee. There's a non zero chance we could make that happen. I probably could have a one, but I don't want to. Actually, that would be pretty fire. That'd be a sick video. It would be a dope video. I get to golf every day. I guarantee this. I know some people at golf courses out there too. I can, we hook it up. But imagine this, I get to neglect all my responsibilities for a month, two months. Yeah. You do have kids and stuff. So I said, yeah, this is hypothetical. Two months, I neglect all my responsibilities and I live in a college dorm and my entire purpose is to get better at golf. In two months, my handicap is dropping four or five strokes. I guarantee it though. You think you'd get the scratch? I think I could. And for the people who say, no, it's nothing. Dog, I work. People don't know how to work, but I work though. It's different. I will, I will, after I get my crud, like there was a point in time I was working out three times a day, but I do it smart. I did it effectively. I was not the best athlete in the world though. I worked myself into, and I think most people can, but you gotta have discipline. You think you could get the University of Houston or Rice to be like, listen, this summer let me come in just every morning for a month and work with that? Yeah. Yeah. I could go to any gym in any college and tell them who you are. They love that type of shit just because it gives it a little bit more. Golf for golf. I'm sure I could. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure I could. I know. It'd be a fun video. Fuck no, I don't want no former pro bowl learning how to golf for my golf coaches. No, fuck out of here. I don't know. Colleges are weird about shit. I was going to say about the facilities though. I do think some of that is going to go away because part of the reason the NFL doesn't have facilities like that is they're spending way more money on their players, which colleges are now. And so for a long time, colleges just had money coming out their ass. They're like, fuck it, build a mini golf course and a slide and do whatever we want. A slide. Clemson has a slide in their facility. You can slide down from the second floor down to the first floor. But now you got to pay 800 grand for your right guard so you don't have all that money just flowing all the time. I'm of the old, you've seen one of the Rockies. I don't know which one of them we're fighting in Russia. Yeah. There's a Rocky III or four. I don't know. I watched it. It was fine. It was good. Yeah, it's one of them. Yeah, I mean, whatever about the movie. But there's an underlying theme there that I fully believe in. The Russian was training with all of this, the glitz and the glamour and the high tech and the body comp and the this and the that. And Rocky was like lifting logs and running on the road and like doing old school. I'm old school when it comes to that shit. All that shit. Yeah, I think some of that information is important. But at the end of the day, head to the road we grinding. That's what I believe in. Sometimes you need to just carry sacks of potatoes. I want to potatoes. Not even potatoes, potatoes. Sack of potatoes. Sack of potatoes. By the way, to our earlier question. Only 30 to 40% of NCAA Division one athletes who enter the transfer portal do not find a new team at that same competitive level across all divisions over half of the 30 to 40 don't find somewhere. So like if you're D one, they don't go to another D one program over half the student athletes who enter the portal each cycle do not successfully move on to another college program. That's across all divisions. So more all divisions, more than 50% of the people who enter the portal. That's it. They just don't find somewhere else to go. That makes sense. I wonder if these stats are in there. They probably are like in team meetings. But like, look, guys, this is a good situation if you if you want to leave. Good luck. I can hear all those meetings. Yeah, the people like the person we described as precisely the person who should stay where they're at and has a good situation and a scholarship at a big school and like hopefully you're you're able to beat somebody out in play. But if you're not like, I mean, you still kind of got a good thing going. To our point last episode, we was talking about these crazy as youth sports parents. It beat them. Mm hmm. It be the parents that think that your kid is the listen, your kid is not. Sorry. Your kid is probably an average athlete and that's all right, man. I know he he probably has some has some touchdowns at your local, whatever. But but but the odds of this should happen in a very low. And I'm very realistic with my kids to like training my son for basketball right now. I'm like, I think you got a chance to actually go do one. I really do. I do think he has a chance. I'm like, but a lot of shit can happen. And if you don't handle your business, it's not going to happen. So we have to keep realistic expectations and make sure you handle all of your other stuff, your grades and everything on the back end. Because I don't have I don't have a pipe dream for my kids to do anything. I want them to be happy. I want to set them up for success. But a lot of these parents, man, they be gasping, they hit the kids head up. And so now they sitting in the room, they didn't get a shot. Go home, man. The coach don't like me. Coach ain't playing me. Well, let's just hit the transfer portal. All right. Sometimes it works. Sometimes it don't. Just then the parents now they all have agents who are telling you you should be playing, man, you could go play at Georgia Tech right now. Or Florida State told me like they'll. Okay. Yeah. Do they have any any kind of I guess vetting system for agents for kids now? Or is it just I believe so? I think there's like a process you have to go through, but I don't think it's very robust. It's not even robust in the league to be honest. Um, yeah. Well, good luck to all those young ins who statistically will go pro and something other than sports. It's okay, man. I had a homeboy who, um, who was a middle linebacker outside linebacker for us. He he's a medical doctor now. Like he he was never trying to get to the league. He was he was good as a college. It was really good. But he was like, I'm trying to be a doctor. We were at the time we're like, what the fuck fresh is lame, right? But like looking back, I'm like, yo, that shit was amazing. And shout out to him. Like it's one of the most amazing things where he used all the tools, all the resources and became a medical doctor. The real one. That's good. Adam Myers White. Nice Adam. My shout out. Yeah. Do you know who Aaron Kraft is? Aaron. I know Marlin Kraft is Aaron. He actually has a Tennessee tie. He he was on the recruiting visit with that Bruce Pearl hosted that was an illegal barbecue that ended up spiraling into a bunch of stuff that got Bruce Pearl fired. But he played at Ohio State for he was one of the original before guys could actually play seven and eight years. He was one of the guys that people are like, he's been there for eight years. I don't know how he's still playing. And he was he was a really good college point guard and and he's a doctor now. I think he's doing like his residency at Ohio State. I believe so as well. Obviously not doctor too. But who's that New York Giants player who now is like a partner at Goldman Sachs. Justin Tuck. I saw that the other day. Oh, is he really? I saw an interview the other day with him, probably the same one big T where he was talking about how yes, he was playing football to make it to the league and whatever. But he's like, I always had a vision after that. Like I went to college. I got I believe he went to Notre Dame. Yes. And he was like, I wanted to get a good education to further myself so that I could do something like this after like in my mind, being at the end of my playing career did not mean I was at the end of my career. I was, you know, looking for something bigger. And now he's a fricking partner at Goldman. And it was I will say it was kind of funny. He was holding himself in the interview like in a full suit and tie, but he was you could like he had a reflex where he was holding his shoulders like he had pads on. And he was like grabbing onto nothing basically, but just like he had pads on. It was very funny. Yeah, but against Justin. Oh, good player. Yeah, really? But that's such a I think that's such a awesome move to especially if you're in a situation like you were in an area where you don't come from this really rich background and you're giving your family this generational wealth to also have something afterwards. Like you do this and like music and it's all it's really interesting to see how people use the education that they do get outside of football. Yeah, I was unfortunately burdened with a mind that was never satiated with anything else, but other minds who are never satiated with anything else, which leads to the field of philosophy, which there's there's no career to philosophy. Are your credits still good? I don't even know. Could you finish? Probably. I mean, I'm pretty sure I have to retake some classes, but I think for the most part. Yeah, but I have no interest in finishing for philosophy. Yeah, my family has always pushed me to do it, but I'm like for what? Like, I don't know. You'd get a nice tweet. It'd get retweeted a lot. Like UT would be like, oh, look who graduated today. And people would be like, oh, that's cool. I mean, they just did it for Ray Rice at Rutgers. Ray Rice? Right? I saw somebody else the other day too. Who's the one who's the one that beat up the woman in the elevator? That is Ray Rice. Yeah, that was that guy. Allegedly. I only say that to cover our ass legally. I don't I'm not in favor of him or anything. I mean, that was one of my girlfriends. It'll be tough situation. Not cool. Not okay. I said if I was a co-star with Diddy. Hey, man, listen, you know what I'm learning in this life. With Diddy Ray Rice, noted avid Michael Jackson defender. It's piling up. 100%. I'll go total to where anybody that thinks Michael Jackson was guilty. Anybody, anybody. 99.9% of people that think he's guilty have never even looked into the allegations. But that's neither here nor there. It might be there from from what we were hearing. Is there anyone else? Not there. It's funny you mention all the all the defamed people I'm friends with, but you're not gonna mention all the non-defamed people I'm friends with. Isn't that interesting? Well, that was just I'm sure you have some wonderful friends. Why not mention them? We've met some of them good people. You mentioned them. Well, because you talked about Ray Rice and then I was like, oh, well, Diddy. Hey, man, listen, listen, the more and more I live this life, the more and more I understand. Life is a complicated thing. It's not black and white. People find themselves in positions and circumstances that they're not proud of. And that's life. But our Lord is saving Jesus Christ. All right. Does he not forgive people for their transgressions? If you ask. There you go. People fuck up. Don't mean they bad people. There are some bad people, though. Don't get it twisted. There are some bad people. Hard to pivot. Think Hunter Biden's on Twitter? What? Yeah. I haven't seen this. There's a just go to at Hunter Biden and he put out a tweet yesterday. They said, I'm Hunter Biden. You've never actually heard from me. It's got how much impressions? It's been like 50,000 times. A lot. And then three hours ago, he teased a interview with Candace Owens and she tweeted it out. And he re quote, quote, tweeted it saying she's got questions. I've got answers Thursday. That should be an interesting interview. Yeah. I'm watching her teaser right now. Hunter Biden on the real Candace Owens show. This screams to me. A plea more so from Candace than Hunter. You have my attention. I mean, this is getting her name back out there as I feel it is beginning to fade. Would you disagree? I think the entire political, I feel like there's very few good actors in political discourse. I think there's just a few. I don't know. I don't know that there's a lot of them. I think the majority of it is maybe it started with good intentions, but the majority of it now is keeping up with what's going on and using that as a platform to keep yourself relevant. I don't think that a lot of people actually care about like the political issues that help Americans or help global politics. I'm unconvinced of that. And I think she falls in that category. Why might you ask any detractor that disagrees with my state? I would say the reason is how you have discourse, right? It's how you engage with these topics. Is it to further divide? Is it to garner an audience? Or is it to actually understand these things, these nuanced topics that divide us all? I would argue that the people that are extremely divisive and have no interest in, not even no interest, because sometimes they'll sit down with people from the other side. But I think the majority of it is just clickbait shit to get your shit viral. But this is my opinion. Yeah, I mean, I don't disagree with that. It just seems like this is such an odd, I wonder who reached out to who. That would be an interesting, I'm sure they'll tell us. Yeah, I mean, I'll watch it, I guess. I'm definitely watching it. I've kind of been checked out of the political sphere for a while, probably a couple months. But I definitely want to tap back in for that. You saw we had some primaries last night. I did. And I saw what you had on the sheet. Yeah, VFL Derek Dooley was defeated in his Georgia Senate primary by Mike Collins. Almost came in third. He barely got second. But then the one everyone's talking about was the most expensive primary in US history, House primary. Yeah, a lot of people were talking about this one. Where Thomas Massey lost his bid for reelection to Ed Galreen in the Kentucky fourth US House district. And why this is so controversial, I believe, is because I think there's a growing sentiment in American politics. That is a bipartisan thing to get a pack, which is Israel's lobby to get them out of American politics. And Thomas Massey is reported to have no money taken from a pack and his. What do we be incumbent? Challenger. Mass is the incumbent. There's a good word for that. I don't know. Elect. Well, no, he's not elected yet. He just won the primary challenger opponent. I don't know. It's gotta be a better one. Let me, I gotta know. All the ones you're saying apply to the outgoing. You're not. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. You're not. You're not. You're not wrong. I'm trying to. I don't know. Predecessor. I don't know. His. His opponent that one. Has taken an alleged. $15 million. Plus. From a pack. Successor is the word. Successor. That's what that's what I was. That's what I was looking for. Success. That's taken $15 million from a pack. And I think that's why this one particularly is so. Controversial. Our dude Zachary who's on here talking about real estate. He was up there. Campanning against this and trying to get. Massey. Specifically. Specifically for. This reason is he. He believes this as well. And I do too. I think that a pack. Is. Staying. I think any lobbyist in general is a stain on American politics. I think it undermines democracy. And this is to me proof of it. This much money should not be involved in politics. Any amount of money in my opinion. And that goes for both sides for anybody who wants to. I don't care if Democrats are receiving. And a lot of them are. Which is. Why I'm usually further left the most Democrats. The reason why I don't like. Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer and all these cats who. Believe that. Lobbying is okay. Who believe that. Stop trading for government officials is okay. Fuck no get all of that shit out of politics. If you care about free elections. If you care about democracy. But. Here we are. And your boy just traded some stock too. Did he. Trump did the same shit. No I don't know. Yeah. I believe he just bought stock in. Let me get my facts right. Well you saw what he said this morning about Israel didn't you. I did not what he said. He said he has 99% approval over there and so when he's done. Being president maybe he'll go run for prime minister. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. He's gonna go run for prime minister. Like. The shit that he said. When he first ran. When he said he could shoot somebody. On Fifth Avenue. And get away with it. I am. I know that was hyperbolic. I am fully convinced. That he could actually. Literally do that now. And his. Psychophantic people. Was in self defense. I don't. There's nothing he could do everything. Not everything. A lot of this shit that they. Say that they're against. Or is even un-American un-picturistic. He does willfully and openly. It is hilarious. So yeah he trades. Millions of dollars worth of NVIDIA and Apple and Microsoft stock. While promoting the companies. He's got NVIDIA though that was a good buy. This is corruption Connor. This is clearly corruption. And it's this is the first time he's done this either. Like he'll give a stock tip. And then invest or buy or sell. He's been doing this shit. This is this is insane. Yeah I don't think anybody in government should be able to trade individual stocks. JD Vance backed it. And then he's like. Defend stop trading and street Trump financials. Come on man. Come on man. This is what I'm saying like I think. I don't think there's anything he could do wrong. There's nothing. There's nothing. And this is. Well I mean the people who would have to make that illegal would be Congress. And they're all doing that so they're never gonna. I see this interview. I am not advocating for political violence but the shit was funny. I think it's a. It's a it's a comedian. I'm not advocating for but it was it was funny. It was objectively funny. He was like. He was like they were just talking about democracy and stuff like that. And he was like he's like do you believe he's like I don't vote and you shouldn't either. He's like you know what I believe in. He's like murder all these politicians. And the dude was like haha that's very funny. He's like no I'm serious. Do it. He's like that's the only thing that will fix this. He's like they're all in bed with each other. They're all in bed with the companies and the only way to do this is to kill them. I was like. This was a comedian. Yeah it was a comedian. Yeah. I want to say he was dead serious but I can't tell him what it is hard but he was it looked as though he didn't smile but the other dude was like well I'm not for that. I'm not either. I don't think you should you should kill people. Clearly but that shit was thank you for that. Well I mean. You know legislation a lot of times is written in blood kind of not saying we I'm going to I'm not going to. I'm not advocating for it but people feel strongly about some that shit happens. We feel strongly about some that shit happens. That's what was a war is. Does he actually have a 99% approval rating. I would imagine not but who knows. I don't he said there was a poll. I don't know where where where that poll is. There was a poll. Let's see. Trump. Approval rating in. Is that Trump one of the best U.S. Presidents for Israel majority of Israel these polls say 73% of realies rate Trump as a better than average president of terms of Israel's interest. This is why he's lost the far far right to me in my opinion. The far far right. That's part of it. So so strong support it seems. Yep. The in the Thomas Massey primary only one age group voted a majority for Ed Galrin the the guy who won and that was people 65 and older. The he had 65% of those voters every other age group 18 to 29 30 to 44 45 to 64 were more than 50% for Thomas Massey. That's interesting. But who votes in primaries. Old people. Oh people. Yeah. They love to vote. Well I think as you age you just you realize how important voting is when you're younger. It's like fucking dogs go get these with these old respectfully. I've and I feel like I'm pretty tuned in. I didn't even know primaries were yesterday. I mean we're not I knew is this week. I didn't know it was yesterday. That's my fault. Because it makes sense that it's on the Tuesday. I think it is designed like that brother. Unfortunately you would think that a country that prides itself on democracy would do everything in the power to make it easier and and more accessible for its constituents to vote but that is not the case. I think you and I could agree unless you have like a remarkably extenuating circumstance or your military whatever one day. It's a federal holiday. It's on a Friday. Give you a nice three day weekend. You go you go vote in person. It's there's a ton of voting places one day and you go vote somewhere and that's it and everybody's off work the whole country or do a Saturday you know whatever but I feel like Friday give people a day off. Nice. If I'm not mistaken. I believe that there has been legislation that has been proposed from the Democratic side that that wanted to make it a holiday but it was shot down and it has been severed but I'm just looking about the specifics that I can't. I think it has been introduced at the federal level. But it gets killed. It there are some Republicans but very few they usually don't tell the party line there but it is kind of uniformly. Rejected at the federal level by the right side of the aisle. So you kind of are against the grain on there and your part. I'd have to look into that. But I don't see why anybody would really be opposed to that especially if you're if you're reducing mail in voting and things like that you have to go in person unless you absolutely have to do a mail in ballot. I think they say and I think it was Mitch McConnell. That's not mistaken. Yeah, I think Mitch McConnell. Yep. He called it the Democratic Poli politician Protection Act. He says the framing being that higher turnout disproportionately helps Democrats so making it easier is a partisan power grab. And that's kind of the party line there which I don't think he's wrong there but I think he's he's telling on himself he's saying if we do do this if we make if we make voting even that will affect the voting outcome in a positive for Democrats which explains a lot of the reasons why I do think he's wrong but either way I don't care. You know, I mean there was like, so if I go to try to vote in my neighborhood right, which is a predominantly white neighborhood. I can get in that this is the presidential election right, I can get in that and 1015 minutes easy. But if I go to like the inner city in Houston, I have to wait like six seven hours to vote. And the overwhelming, not overwhelming, but the majority of, I guess, people that are more financial harsh or minorities, and they're less inclined to stand longer lines to vote. I think that's his thinking as well which is why they pass laws in Texas stores like if you, if you pass out water bottles to people standing in line that's against that's against the law, which is like explain the rationale and that you know what I mean, like you can't get in there. I mean, if people are thirsty, standing in line, but it's clear because I mean they say it, I think it does help. It would help. If I recall correctly the consternation about that was it can't be given out by people who work for a campaign, but there's within a certain distance from the polling place but there's no law against like giving people water as long as you're not associated with one of the parties. So if you're a Democrat standing in line waiting to vote, I was gonna vote Republican but dog this man gave me a bottle of water. I don't know, I'm just, I, I, I, and fuck that shit. I'm just telling you what it is. No Biden for me because of water. I'm just telling you. I feel you dog. 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Wait, you weren't on it at all? No, I wasn't on it. I had, I was doing something. Madeline, were you on the show yet? Yeah. Okay. So Pablo Torre did an episode of his podcast talking about Oz the mentalist. Oh, it's Oz, it's not Oz. Yeah, it's Oz. He already lost me. Why, why is it Oz? I don't know, what's his name? Um, and so he showed several clips where... I actually hate that. He had, he had another guy on helping to explain some of the stuff that Oz does and like... He seems to be correct in what they're asserting in some of the, one of the clips is, uh, is Will Compton. And they show how Will may have actually mistyped something in his phone that made the trick, like, kind of not work because he put the wrong name. Uh, and so I think the assertion was, Oz is working behind the scenes with all these people to, you know, he, and... Maybe I'm wrong. I don't think anybody, uh, was under the impression that this guy can actually just like read minds, right? That's what I'm confused about. I'm confused about the assertion. Obviously he's doing tricks. But all I can tell you is, is my experience with Oz because, because now everybody has taken that and been like, see, I knew it. They're working backstage and doing all this stuff. All I can tell you is what he did with us in studio, having never met the guy before, never spoken to him. And he, he did tricks that I was like, I don't know how you did that. And then when you go back and listen to the episode, he's like, Big T, I can tell he's a skeptic. He, he really doesn't think I can get him. And all I can tell you from what he did with me was, man, I, this was been years now, I'd have to go back and watch it. But he handed me a piece of paper and he was like, write the name of one of your friends or somebody that I wouldn't know on this piece of paper. And on the thing, there was a black box drawn in the middle of it and he was like, write it in this box. So I was, I didn't know what that, obviously that had something to do with it. So I considered writing it outside the box just to see what would happen. But I didn't, I wrote it in the box. And then he ripped up the piece of paper or something. I, again, I'd have to go back and watch the whole thing. But he got, he knew like the name of my friend and his birthday. And then, but he, so that trick I understand somehow something happened with when I wrote on the piece of paper, he saw it somehow, whatever. He did a trick with Avery where Avery opened a book to a random page and O's was like, all right, pick the 14th word on that page. And he like knew the word. And I was, I don't know how the hell he did that because Avery could have opened to any page on there. And then he did something with PFT. I forget what it was, but all I can tell you in my personal experience is the guy did tricks. They were cool. I don't know how he did them. I didn't talk to him before or after that. That was the extent that I had. It seems that in some others, maybe there's a greater exchange of information prior. I don't know. But it reminds me of like adults that go to like a state fair and see like magicians or clowns or whatever it gets me to be. And then we're like, no, what the fuck? There's a rope on there or like, there's a string. I see the string. I'm like, what do you think magic really is out here? Like, yeah, he is good. No shit. Like, yeah, he's good. Chris Angel, David Blaine, bro, their illusion is magic is not real. Spoiler alert. Magic ain't fucking real. No, it's not. This is this don't exist in our world and our universe. I wish it did. That would be lit. But like, I remember inviting a magician to my kid's house for my kids. My house for my kids birthday party and they were just enthralled and there was a couple of tricks. I was like, in a way they fell for that shit. But I'm like letting the kids enjoy today. I'm not going to call them out. Why? I don't think magic exists. I know magic don't exist. Who was it? Randy? Fuck. Or get his name. Travis Jackson. Nope. Nope. Randy. Randy Johnson. The little man that exposed mediums and psychics. I forget his name. Randy something. I'm not familiar with this guy's work. So he used to be a magician. And so, you know, he knows all the tricks and he knows like there's a way to do anything. Like it's sleight of hand stuff. It's, you know, preemptive responses or, you know, concocted a cold reading. There's ways to like dig and figure out information about people or it's like pre-planning, whatever. But he took it and he made it his life goal to expose psychics and mediums specifically. Because like he was like, this is unethical. He think like mediums who people who claim that they could talk to the other side, talk to the dead people are praying on people that are actually affected and hurt and grieving. And so he made it his life's mission to expose them. And he had an open million dollar bet. He said, if you can prove to me that your powers are real under these certain circumstances, then you can have a million dollars. And he would set it up in a way that's like, they can't use the tricks on him. And so, and nobody ever met the standard obviously because that shit ain't real either. I know a lot of good people who are smart that believe mediums can talk to the dead. Like, what do you feel about these people can talk to the dead? No. Yeah. Okay. Good. Yeah. No, I agree. Shit. No. And I think the mediums are, I think you're a big piece of shit. If you're a magician, I think you're cool as hell. That's that's fire to me though. Whatever. Like get the card trick, do the whoop, whatever. But if you sit in here telling somebody who's lost a loved one that I can communicate with them and then express what they're feeling toward. Oh, backhand treatment every time. Fuck out of here. That shit is disgusting to me. But anyway, I don't know. There's the point of trying to expose an illusion. Yeah, I don't get that either. Apparently from what I understand, like a lot of other magicians might not like him. And they don't like cutting. That makes sense. Cutting out of the business, cutting into the business. But yeah, I, you know, doing an expose on a magician like, okay, I think it was kind of like an ethical thing. Like, like they're saying some of the stuff he does is unethical, which like, all right, I guess. Like, yeah, I don't think anyone with a functioning brain is like, oh darn, my favorite mentalist, Oh's, has been exposed. There was a show I used to watch when I was a little kid that it was on Fox and it was like, he was exposing magician secrets. Was it the guy with the weird face? They had a mask. Yeah, I loved that show. I loved that show because I used to be in the magic. Like, I wanted to know how to do it. I never thought it was real, but like, I wanted to know how to do it. And he had to like, he exposed a lot of tricks. I remember magicians being mad at him for that. I remember there being a lot of like hoopla about him exposing the whatever. But I don't know. I don't go to a magic show and expect to see real magic. I want to be fooled. I want to be tricked like they ain't cutting, they ain't cutting bitches in half. What? Are you serious, dog? Yeah. This is crazy. That came on like, like maybe VH1 for me or something. Yeah, I saw a prime time TV, baby. That was a Fox show. I think originally it was on Fox. Matt, you fact-checked it for me? I believe so though. What was the name of it? We don't know. We don't know. It was a guy in like a zebra mask. Yeah, yeah. And he would. Tiger, I would say tiger. Tiger. Yeah. But it was black and white, right? It was like a black and white mask. He had no, he had his hair cover so he didn't have any hair. He had gloves on. And he would show how they did like basic magic. Oh, I remember this show now too. What was it called? Hold on. I got to find it, but I remember what you're talking about. The funniest one when I remember watching it when I was a kid was he showed the illusion of how the big ones get, they make a car or a, or a, he made a tank disappear. Okay. And before he told me what it was, I was like, well, clearly they just moved the camera. Yes. Or the car out of the way. Magic's biggest secrets finally revealed is what it says on here. That's the one. That's the one. And are you asking what channel it was on? Yeah, what channel did it premiere on? I believe it was Fox. My memory serves me correctly. Hold on one second. Fox or like maybe a UPN. That seems like kind of a who? UPN. What's that? Y'all don't know UPN? Uh-uh. Shit. Was that a channel? It was a channel. That was like a public access thing, right? Yeah, I think so. Was it UPN? No, it's been, it's been a long time. I think that's like a, like a CW Warner Brothers type thing. Yeah. Some shit like that. Yeah. I believe so. I know, but there's a PBS. Uh, Fox. Look at that. Fuck CTE who? Fuck you, Big T. You know what I mean? No, I was just, I didn't know that was a network show. It doesn't seem like. No, I was just saying fuck you. I was saying fuck. I know, yeah, yeah. It's a general like. Your memory is still, still kicking. Well, I'm getting into that. It's on Netflix now. All right. Um, magicians are dope. Stop trying to figure them out, yo. I don't mind figuring them out. Just don't, you know, understand its magic. Part of it, it's like, uh, it is. It's, it's. You gotta know that the stripper doesn't like you, you know? You know what you're going for. I was going to make a less, a less funny one. Yeah, we'll go with that one. I'm going to say, uh, wrestling. Sure. You know, you know, it's not real, but it's fun to, you know, not for me, but I'm sure people, soap operas. I actually was as a child, I was, uh, I would vehemently argue with anyone who tried to tell me wrestling wasn't real. I'd get mad about it. I mean, there's people, but then I stopped, but then I was no longer a child. Yeah, kids, kids now be like a believe in magic. It's important to them. Like Santa Claus. I'm an atheist. Christmas is not significant to me other than what I've made it to be, which is significant, but when my kids, I never told them Santa wasn't real. Let them believe it. Who cares? It's important to them matters to them. Next thing you're going to tell me, passage of the line, big T get out of here. It's not going to happen. Stop. It's important, man. Some do. All right, guys. So I have a question. How are my shady rays basically the same quality as the $200 sunglasses I used to buy? And I'm not exaggerating. They feel everybody's premium is the expensive brands I've owned. 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So Google is attempting to, I think as soon as this week from what I read, they are trying to transition away from the Google search that they've had for 30 years into like almost a fully AI type thing. With the revamped search experience, the new search box simply expands to accommodate longer, more conversational queries rather than making you decide what type of search experience or mode you want to choose at the start of your query. It will also have a new AI powered query suggestion system that goes beyond autocomplete to help people craft more complex and nuanced queries, Google says. Google's AI overviews will also allow users to ask follow up questions in AI mode beginning Tuesday. So it seems they are trying to move more fully toward the AI companion thing it gives you when you Google something now instead of just giving you links to websites, which people are saying will hurt smaller websites who obviously rely on SEO and Google to drive traffic to them. If you cornered the market, I'm struggling to understand the reason for this because it's a me it kind of waters down AI in general then and correct me if I'm wrong if I'm off base here, like what makes AI powerful is it can scour through all of these different links and websites. I guess it will still be able to buy I would assume that Google is like a huge aggregate of these things and if that's no longer the case, it basically wants to be a chat GPT or a Claude or whatever, right, a grok, which scours major aggregates of clips, news sources, websites and it's saying it doesn't really want to do that anymore, it just wants to become another AI. I think a lot of these companies see the whole AI, you know, ecosystem as the future of not only their businesses, but the economy. And they're trying everything they can to harness that in whatever form that takes. So for Google, like there was a story that came out recently. Amazon is requiring that all employees like utilize AI in some fashion. So a lot of them are just making up fake stuff for their AI like profile to do to show their bosses like look, I'm using it. So I think all these these companies don't exactly know what they want to use it for yet. They just know they want to use it. But this is why I'm here. They're a hammer looking for a nail. Well, I think it's a little deeper than actually I think. So I'm looking friends with a corporate lawyer that works for Amazon and they were telling me that exactly that they're kind of mandated to use these Claude and some kind of they have to be very up to date on the newest AI technology and its inner workings and what she was basically explaining and what she was like, yeah, they're they're doing it to collect data from us. So how how we work workflow. All these different variable inputs to what makes their job them successful at their job. And she's like to eventually replaces. And I was like you, you just said that all really nearly like it's not just like it is what it is. Like but that's what I see what's what's happening. She was like, I think they're going to eventually try to replace this. And this is what I see. And in front of these companies and why it's never really been a free market you have access to all this data, which is, I'm not saying anything groundbreaking here but like you have access to all this data that has been collected from consumers buyers sellers market trends, whatever. So you have a cheat sheet about what's going to happen in in in the next wave of things and the next anything that is about to take place in this economy. And I think that's what they're doing they're just just using to collect more data user patterns, all these things to find better ways to sell shit to you. And I think that's what the ultimate goal is, is to just a consumerism hellscape. But I think that's certainly part of it but if you're a company like Google, particularly as it relates to the search function, their their original purpose now they're, you know, $3 trillion company or whatever. But they don't make more or less money, I assume, from like, you know, if it's their AI or if you search something and they give you the links to the websites, I would imagine I don't know that. But it seems like this is just okay let's see what we can do with this, you know, and how well it's going to work. That could be a case but. So like when I when I think of like a cloud or chat GPT people develop intimate relationships with them, like deep relationships and to me, as a multi billion trillion dollar company. I look at that as prime pickings for how the psychology of a consumer works. And I could be wrong about this, but this is I just felt every major company doesn't actually care about people and they care about how we can extract wealth from them via exchange of goods and services. So I don't I don't even view it as like them just trying to like keep up with the challenges, maybe like again this is I'm going off into the Aryan world. Maybe this is just another way, because I would assume like Mike, the cloud I use cloud a lot that it knows me more intimate intimately than my Google search history does, even though I've used Google search history, I got Google search longer than I have like a cloud. The amount of time and the way I probe it and the way I've crafted it, it probably knows my spending patterns and economic behavior better than Google does, which I think is the ultimate goal and I could be wrong about that but that's just in my heart of hearts I feel like that's all this is about is about how to how to aggregate consumer spending patterns. I don't know I'll be wrong about that but I just don't see a, I see the point of it you have a market cornered you are forever embedded in humanities lexicon about how to search for that's what I'm saying I don't think it serves like a massive business purpose I think I think every company out there is just trying to see what all can we use this for. And I You have probably one of the most successful businesses in human history and you want to alter its DNA to test what happens. For something that people hate, by the way. That's what I'm saying. I find it hard to believe. What makes most sense to me is they have found value in it in the back end like okay, we see what Gemini does right because they have Gemini. Okay, we've beta tested Gemini. Gemini gets our consumers this is what I'm spitballing but Gemini gets our consumers we get to know them way better and way deeper than if they just type in what's the nearest restaurant because if I do it on a chat she would you're caught it's like what's the nearest restaurant. Suit it to my likes and you get to go deeper that's that's what I feel I just don't find it as blank as we're just trying to see what's popping with this I don't know. Yeah, I'm sure there's there's a deeper. Thing to it than that but. Google's worked fine for 30 years. Yeah man we used to we used to dog pile stuff you were in around for those days dog pile as G's dog pile. Dog pile was a search engine. This is the first I've ever heard of that I know G's and Yahoo and. Yeah, who was one. Ask.com or was that just was that what G's turned into. Dog pile. No, because it was there was ask G's and then there was just ask.com I think that may have been asked G's. Could be yeah, could be here. But I grew up. Dog pile was actually my my go to it wasn't even Google I used to use dog pile all the time. Really? Yeah, he's dog pile lot. Back in the message boards days bro the message board that was an error you missed that error. It still is if you're a college football fan. I should still crack like that. Oh buddy there are there are people who have been on the message board since the time you're talking about and they have 962,000 lifetime posts and they. Oh, geez. Oh yeah. Status. Yeah. But he hit you knew here I've been here. Yeah, but message board I think college football is keeping message boards alive for the most part I guess you could classify Reddit as kind of a message board deal. I mean, I mean, it was like the first social media really right. Yeah. Because it's just it's it's like a little subset of a like you know Twitter has communities or Facebook has I'm pretty sure I haven't had Facebook years but like has communities and little threads that you can go back and forth on fan pages whatever. It's like the first that's like the first version of it like we all have this common interest. Were you on a house? I was on a what was your aim screen name. Memoirs of the sun. Oh, interesting. That was my like when I was little all the way up until I was that was my last call of duty name to really. Yeah, memoirs of the sun this was this was modern warfare two days. Yeah, I don't great game. Yeah. Black ops three they lost me. Yeah, I haven't played Call of Duty in a few years. It's just I mean how many black ops can there be you know they're on six or seven now no pun intended. They really are it's like black ops six I swear. No, I was like how many black ops could there be a plenty man. Another P in there. Yeah. 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That's always what that's what they teach you to do first day of podcasting school. My dear MacRodosian there's no way you think that these at this is your five of this podcast right. Six six this is your six. Yeah we've we've gone past five years we're in my god okay so we're in your six of this podcast. We're all different human beings when topics are thrown out some people are more excited about these topics than others and that's just how I think this is hot in the streets right now and I think I think people need to hear about it. Which I which is why I was inclined to like I want to hear your take I mean I definitely have a take. But I'm gonna let you lead the way we're talking about data centers for AI companies. And if you want to I guess give the rundown give the background and then we can just you know do get out. I was I was intrigued by this because I can't go on Twitter now on my for you page without just seeing it's nothing but data center talk I don't know what I've done to garner that kind of stuff from X dot com but that's all it thinks I want to hear so I see a lot of these takes about data centers and it's it's it all struck me as very alarmist and I'm not an AI you know guy I think I'm it's a weird topic for me because I I'm not I'm I'm definitely not in favor of the AI revolution that seems to be occurring but then I see all this talk of the data centers and how they're gonna we're gonna have no clean drinking water in 15 years because of the data centers I'm like that strikes me as probably untrue so I just wanted to look into it a little more and I would say after doing that that I think I was right for the most part in in those hypotheses. Um, so these data centers are popping up all over the place because as these AI companies expand they need servers and stuff to run and we've had thousands of data centers for years like that's how the internet works that's how you know there's farms of data centers all over the place I think 40% of Americans live within five miles or so of a data center and I'm sure most people don't even know that they do. But now that it's an AI thing people are catastrophizing it and you know making it seem like it's this huge thing so I looked into it and the thing you hear about is the water that they use so much water we're not going to have any water left it's killing the planet. So I did a little research Arian data centers for both power and cooling use about 170 billion gallons of water a year. So let's even say as they're they're rapidly expanding and they're building more let's say they do five times that and they get to a trillion gallons a year right. Currently the 170 is less than half of 1% of the US freshwater usage negligible golf courses in the United States use a trillion gallons a year. I don't think we're stopping that anytime soon. Almond production in the United States this is I'm fascinated by almonds we might need to do an episode on almonds because apparently they kill all the bees to almonds do. Yeah because that's the thing when when vegans are always talk about how unethical eating meat and stuff is the a retort from some people is that almond production kills like some insane amount of bees. I don't know why that is but it does almond production in the United States uses 1.7 trillion gallons of water a year. So double that of golf courses 100 or so times that of data centers and lawn maintenance in the United States 3.3 trillion gallons of fresh water a year. So in the grand scheme of things even if there are 10 times the amount of data centers there are right now the water is going to be fine. I think what a lot of the consternation is is that people don't like AI which I'm with and it's why I'm not trying to lick the boots of the data center people but it just seemed like a lot of the stuff people were talking about was a little alarmist. But I think they don't like AI they don't want to live next to them which is fair enough. I don't want to live next to any you know power plant or tire plant or anything like that. And I think they're using that to you know they're trying to come up with everything they can to be like we can't build any data centers. There's I think Kevin O'Leary is trying to build a gigantic one in Utah in the middle of nowhere and it's like on 44,000 acres I think and the population is revolting. It's in the middle of like a valley where nobody lives. There's nothing out there. They're purchasing all the water rights. They're going to have like their own water supply their own electrical supply like everything and people are still going nuts about it. And it's like that kind of seems like where they should be is out in the middle of nowhere where nobody lives but people don't even want that. So I actually saw this morning St. Charles, Missouri which is where my dad's from. They have banned data centers in the town. I don't know where they were going to put one. I've been to St. Charles dozens of times. I don't know of many places that one would have gone but they have banned them. So congrats to St. Chuck. But yeah, it's just per five gallons of water usage. Data centers generate $132 in gross domestic product. Almond production generates two cents per five gallons. So it actually seems like kind of an okay use of water and stuff to like you know it's helping the economy whether you're down with what it's doing or not. It's a different conversation but. So just in my little small bit of research I think I don't think the argument is that I don't think it's the water usage per se. I think that is a part of it. But like you said when you compare it to golf courses or almond uses is I mean almond production. It's not it's not as bad. But I think the the issue is like where and what I'm seeing is it's where these things are being located. So if it's if it's a way and it's by small towns like that water gets depleted for those small towns which is problematic. But it's but that's not true. The the whole water thing comes from a book called Empire of AI by a woman named Karen Howe and she detailed a data center in Chile and she said it consumed a thousand times the water supply of the population of the town. And it turns out her calculations were off by a factor of a thousand. And so it was the equivalent of the town and she had to apologize and say that they made a terrible error in their calculations. And then people still run with that like that data somehow. I think there are plenty of plenty of there are cases like that where maybe they were you know mistaken on the the reading of the data stuff. But there are cases of small towns where their water has been depleted. Like this is this is Dr. Chester County, Pennsylvania. Newton County, Georgia. I think was one. OK, so I don't know Newton County. I think that's like Covington. So I don't know if that's the same one. There was a story recently. I think it's Fayetteville, Georgia. And the town was freaking out because they claimed that this company got 30 million dollars worth of water that they didn't have to pay for something and there was a drought going on. And what actually happened was the county was really in a state of emergency. And what happened was the county was redoing all of its meters and they were switching it from like an old system to a new system and they missed one that the data center was part of. And then as soon as they found it, the place paid all of it and it was totally fine. But that somehow turned into a story that the data center was robbing the town of all its water. And like that didn't happen at all. I mean, what I looked up, it seems that a lot of this stuff is blown out of proportion. But again, I don't love like, I don't want the entire country turning into like an AI data center on every corner. But I think that's where we're headed. And that's why. So like, again, I haven't done enough research to sit here and come back and refute every single one of these claims. But just from what I've just brought up, there are towns that have been depleted of water. But even even if that's the case, there's like a whole legal aspect to it where there's there's towns not able to combat a Google or open AI or whatever the case may be in court to fight these kind of things anyway. And so you're just basically at the mercy of companies saying this is okay. And so and not not not to mention there are people who are physically affected by this. Like they saying that if they're if they're in or around neighborhoods or communities that they're loud, you know, having trouble sleeping, stuff like that. That's that's something to be considered to. I mean, again, I'm not advocating from just saying what the retort to to it is. And this is somebody who uses AI almost on a daily basis. But I do your big. Huh, you're big on AI. I mean, it's the future. I make it a point and a point to my kids that you have to keep up with technology or else it'll pass you by. And I think you're sitting duck if you if you're not in the know about our technological advances society, the scams people can lay on you using using higher technology than you're aware of. Like it's just you have to keep a breast of it. But I'm like, I don't know enough about it to refute any of your claims. But I'm always skeptical when major corporations are saying something is good for the environment in general. So I agree. If the if the if the problem with it is like we don't want them in small communities and like taking 100%, nobody wants that. But like the there seems to be a bunch of consternation about the Kevin O'Leary one that's out in the middle of the desert in Utah. And that seems like where we should be building them. So they're going to go somewhere. So I think we need to figure out where that can be and how we can minimize their effects. But I think the whole like, I think there's a lot of hand wringing that isn't necessarily true. So I think we need to we need to come together and be like, let's we can build these in a sensible location with, you know, also I saw somebody had a great idea. Like if you want to build a data center somewhere, you have to build a park and basketball courts and something like down the road. Like I think that's great. Just figure it out. But I agree. I would be there would be a double compromise. But it's funny that it billionaires want to put data centers in and you have to kind of like trick them into doing it. I throw the people a bone to help them out. And they're like, I fuck it. Yeah, give them a playground. I mean, I think that'd be great. It's better than nothing. They should be doing that shit anyway. Now, billionaires are hilarious to me. I see this video with some ladies. She was like, billionaires are fucking psycho. Some of them are like psycho. Like a billion dollars is an insane amount of money. And she's like, you have everything anybody could ever want in the history of the human. In existence. But you also want our attention and our love. You want to go on podcasts and say how cool you are and go to Met Gallows and like what is that is psychotic behavior though. Like you want to be loved to by the public. Big TV is a bit of a respectfully. I'm gonna be hit up. Well, so that's yeah. So this is I think again, my hypothesis was correct. How many billionaires would you guess there are? Because I was going to say I think what you're describing, I think the real richest people in the world, you'd never know. Yeah, there's not a whole about 300, 400, maybe 3400. God damn. The people that's and that's what I was the people that are actually rich. You don't know you could walk right by him on the street. You'd never know. I think the billionaires that are, you know, the Mark Cubans and the Kevin O'Leary's and those people in the world, I think they're few and far between. Cycle. Still cycles. I would want to own the Atlanta Braves, but outside of that, I wouldn't care to, you know. I don't know man. You know, you know who I would turn into if I was a billionaire at Big TV? Who's that? Jesus Christ. I would be feeding the fuck out of people. I would be dumping all my resources into people, helping people. That would be great. I don't know that you would transform into Jesus, but I think your ideals are good. Sure, I wouldn't transform into Jesus though. You said you would turn into Jesus. I know I said you know who I would be. I would be Jesus Christ. I would do nothing but help sick people, poor people, hungry people. That's all I would do. I hope that would be the case. Collectively, the 3400 billionaires in the world hold a historic net worth of $20.1 trillion. That is hilarious to me though. That's actually less than I would have anticipated, right? Because that's only... How much is that of the total global net worth of humans? I mean, I don't know if that includes businesses or not. Total household wealth globally is between $450 and $500 trillion. So that is 5%? Wait, billionaires hold 5% of the world's total net worth? That's what I'm seeing, yes. It cannot be the case. No. Some estimates reaching up to $600 trillion, so then it would be like 3.5%. What? You don't like that. You want them to have more? No. Hell no. Then why are you mad? I've heard and read numbers different than that, but that could be the case. This says the top 1% controls nearly half of the world's wealth, but 1% is going to include way more than 3400 people. You're in the 1%. Yeah, agree. But again, hold on. Comparing my wealth to Jeff Bezos is... Well, that's what I'm saying. The 1% encompasses a lot of people. It's one out of every 100. So, okay, do that. Do the 1% global... This says nearly half. That's more of the numbers I've heard. That's you. It is me. But again, this is where billionaires tricky, though. This is where billionaires tricky. My network compared to their network and how I attained it also, right? This goes into more economic theory, but how I attained it is not how they attained it. I didn't obtain my wealth by exploiting workers. I was a worker. Does that make sense? Who did I exploit obtaining my wealth? I mean, if you're going to use the same argument that you're going to use for a lot of billionaires, you could say a lot of people. Who? The concession workers in the stadium. I don't own that. I don't own any part of that. Okay, but like if... That is what Marxism is. It's the ownership of means of production. I don't have ownership in that. The owners of the company, Divi and Desai... You didn't have to put up any capital to get your job, either. Clearly, but that's not what I'm saying. That's your pivoting. That's not the argument. The argument isn't... Well, the reason they own it is because they paid to take the risk to start it. Sure, but that has nothing to do with what I'm saying. Sure, it does. You don't have no. Because you can put up all the capital you want to start it. It is not sustainable without the concession standards workers, without the players, without the people that actually make the business go. So we're not saying that you shouldn't be rewarded for your business idea and your risk for starting a company. We're saying that it don't work without further exploitation. So then what... And we're getting way off track. But just what's the... That was pretty off track. What is the cutoff that... So Jeff Bezos starts a trillion dollar company. Right. And by the way, he does... I don't know what his net worth is, 100 billion, whatever it is. He obviously doesn't have that in cash, which I think a lot of people get misconstrued, but whatever. What's the cutoff then? What can he earn? That's up to him and it's contingent on each individual company, but there are plenty of examples of companies that run their business ethically. So there's smaller businesses, there's larger businesses. Ocean Spray is one. Ocean Spray is a socialist company where they're a worker co-op, where they all own the means of production. All individual farmers own the means of production. They all collectively make decisions. There's plenty of large companies, small companies that do the same thing. But what people complain about is somebody like Jeff Bezos, you have people striking in Amazon for healthcare reasons, pay reasons, work conditions, stuff like that. When you have yachts and jets and all that shit. That's what people are complaining about. But this is the trick that millionaires pull on people is they say, well, look at the millionaires, they're just saying, we're not. I'm not. I'm not the same. Look at this podcast, for example. Anytime I have that opportunity to pay people fairly for their wages, I do. And I think you work at Amazon, you should have a livable wage. I don't think that's even a controversial take. He actually should. He had an interview that came out, I think, this morning with CNBC that I've seen people tweet about and say it's very good. And so we should watch that and talk about it next week. Because from what I see, he talked about like, yeah, I want all my workers to have healthcare and this kind of stuff. But then he talked about, from what I understand, and we should probably go watch the whole thing, like I'm down with billionaires paying more taxes, but it doesn't solve anything when the federal government is just going to spend it recklessly. And it's not going to actually solve any problems. So I wouldn't, I don't disagree with that statement, but I think the slide of hand there is, you are one of the billionaires that constantly lobby for lower taxes. He was a huge proponent of Trump. Trump lowered taxes for the higher class. So if you're going to one-hand say, I don't mind if we pay higher taxes, you wouldn't lobby and pay money to see that your political agenda is pushed. To me, that's the slide of hand. And they'll always say that shit. So he said, quote, we don't have a revenue problem in this country. We already have the most progressive tax system in the world. The top 1% of taxpayers pay 40% of all taxes. The bottom 50% pay 3%. We have a spending problem. And then he said, if I do my job right, the value to society from my companies will be much larger than the good I do through charitable giving. And then in response to AOC, who said you can't earn a billion dollars recently, he said, the way you make a billion dollars is you create a service that people love. And if millions of people choose your service, you're going to end up with a billion dollars. Yeah, he's making a capital with the government. It's ridiculous. But he's looking at it from a ownership standpoint. He's not looking at it from an Amazon truck driver standpoint or a warehouse worker standpoint where none of that shit works without them. It doesn't. It can't. It will not survive. Jeff Bezos is not going to give you all of these packages delivered to your doorstep. And so you need workers and they're just arguing, give them livable wages, health care, all of these things. And we would argue a portion of the means of production. But I think the con that this country has pulled over people's eyes the most is to protect the wealthiest people that continuously fuck them over. And I get put in that category. And the argument I hear most is partly why I got up to Twitter because I get tired of looking at that shit. But people are like, well, you could just give all your money away. That's just the silliest fucking argument in the world. It's just silly because that won't change. That won't systemically change anything if Aaron gives all his wealth away. Then I'll just be broke and I'll have to go back to work and I'll be repeating the cycle. And I exist in this system, but I do my best to try to change this system. And I did that on purpose because I believe that everybody should have a fair share and working livable wage. If you're doing all the work that we are, why shouldn't you? I feel like that's not an unreasonable ass. There's this company I came across on Instagram. It's a soap company. And she's like, we're a communist company. Top to bottom. She's like, I want to make a penny more than any of my workers. And she runs it like that. She runs everybody owns part of it. They all make decisions and they're doing really good. To me, that's, I don't think you view that as like morally, I guess, any more or less more than any business owner. And I think that's probably the biggest divide in our politics, which is neither here nor there. So that depends on several things. But like, so Amazon has 1.5 million employees. So when you say everyone gets a part of the means of production, what does that mean? They all get stock or they all get like a dividend check? Some of them do get stock. So it depends. Like I would have to sit down and go over all of the numbers, right? But almost positive they don't get, like, they don't get, they get compensated. They get working wages, but they don't own any part of the company. They don't make any decisions. I'm not saying every single Amazon employee should make decisions, right? But there's a reason, there's also a big reason why major corporations don't like unions. Because unions make sure that people get the wages that they want, fair working conditions, healthcare, all of these things. That in my opinion is essential to a happy society, comfortable society. Again, anytime I hear this argument, it just blows my mind that it's not even... I don't know how people argue against it. I do understand. It's like people off, I had a conversation with my homeboy one day. He's like, I'm gonna be a millionaire. I'm like, you probably won't. There's nothing to do with his work ethic. There's nothing to do with the cloth he's cut from. I think he's a hard working dude, good dude, solid dude, has a good product. But in order that so many things have to fall into place, and so many things have to happen in order for you to get that, that's just not likely. I thought, I hope it all, do anything in my power to help you. But I just, it's just not likely. It's a pipe dream. And I think the more this society goes on, the more and more it's happening. The wealth wage gap is growing. And so, I don't know, let me get off my soapbox. What do I know? I don't know shit. Shadow of the Basos though. So the data centers... How did we get there? Oh, we were to the AI companies and all that. Yeah, they're gonna do what they want. Yeah, I think in terms of the data centers, I think we both agree like nobody wants them popping up in every town in America. I think it's inevitable though. It's gonna happen. I mean, from what I, my rudimentary knowledge, you don't need... Now, we've never seen companies like, you know, Anthropic and OpenAI and all these. We don't know what they're gonna turn into, but like, we have the entire government run on data centers that are already in the United States, and I don't know that I've ever seen one. So I feel like we can probably get away with it not being remarkably intrusive, but I don't know. What do you younger motherfuckers in Congress need? The younger motherfuckers in Congress. That will work. How young? That's a good question. I think I said on this show recently, 40 to 70, I think that's how old you should be to be able to serve in the government. I think 70, you gotta get up out of there. I think 65, you done. Not saying that old. You could talk me into that. I got parents that are in the latter part of 65, still got all they went still, whatever. But like, nah, I had to teach my pops how to work AI. He's like poking it with a stick. He'll fuck with it and he'll like, you know, for a few days not touch it, because I gave him access to mine. And he wanted to work on this project. I was like, no, you can do this PowerPoint in 20 minutes with AI. He's like, really? I was like, yeah. So I got all this data from him, put it in there. I had the whole PowerPoint thing. I was like, you don't have to fact check it stuff because it still makes some mistakes. But he went through it and he's like, this is crazy. And that's why I reached out to him like a week later, I said, have you upgraded or done anything to it? He's like, yeah, I'm working on it, man. I'm bringing myself there. He's just like, doesn't trust it. So there's a tab in my little chat history where it's his PowerPoint and he hasn't even gone back in. I can see there's been no activity. You're watching him like a professor? Well, no, I wanted to see, I want to see what he does and how he interacts with it because, again, I believe that keeping up with the technological advances in our society will do nothing but aid you. I may not agree with him. I may not agree with how ethically they ran or their purposes, but it's here whether we like it or not. And so you might as well know what's going on. And so I'm explaining this to him and he's like, fascinated and he saw what it can do. And I think it's he kind of like fuck with him a little bit like, hey, yo, like, what is this shit? Yeah, but you're watching him like a professor? You know, they have that software now where they can watch as you type a paper to see if you use AI or not? Well, no, no, I like so like, I got my clout open right now. I just go into the chat and I realized, let me see if he's done anything. Nah, still there. I do that like once a week, I'll check and see if he's done anything. I'm not like watching. Nah, I'll be I'll be done. I'll be I'll be gets this shit. I think I think it's important. This shit can go haywire, especially because have you seen these shits, these new scams where they like the face, whatever thing like they can like you can like FaceTime people with that filter of people that they aren't. And like, they can do it. They can do it to somebody that you know. And so they could you could be FaceTime and your moms or something. She's like, Hey, can you lend me like he throw me like $1,000 or whatever case may be. And it's and it's your mom's face and voice. Shit like that is on the on the horizon. And that's that's why I like I want my parents to be like my mom laughs at her mom right now because she got got by like some phone company scammer. You gotta be more careful, but I'm I'm trying to show my mom what's on the horizon of the scam and shit that's about to happen. It's going to get wild. So you have to like have safeguards around your folks who aren't up on this shit. So that's why I like to stay up on this shit. I'm sure when I'm decrepit, my kids are gonna be like pops. Well, stop answering those emails. Yeah, I think if you're like 50 to 60 right now in 10 years, it the stuff's going to be bad like what they're going to be unrecognizable. Yeah, because I'm pretty good at identifying a I videos, but there are a couple that have gotten me where I'm like, there's no fucking way. There's no way there's this dude who put out one who was like, he's like, right now this is AI you're looking at a model and it's like, he's like, look at the dust on my hat. Look at the world and and people are saying it's AI. It looked really shit to me. I mean, there's been some animal videos that look real to me and it's like you gotta be careful dog. Yeah, I think in five or 10 years, we can't even fathom the scams they're going to be able to have. I think it's so hilarious that like our the the the production of AI and the how good it's gotten is forever measured to how Will Smith eats spaghetti. Yeah, he's getting better. He's got really good. There was this one with the open seed one where there was seen cuts and he was eating this. I was like, this shit is crazy. Yeah, five years from now, I'm not gonna be able to tell. I don't think I'm gonna be able to tell. Looking forward to it. Absolutely, my brother. Yeah, that's that is the talk on data centers, data centers. If you're less, you know, bougie. I don't like I said, I've done minimal research into it. It's not my bag, but wait, do you think there's a class divide? Between people who say data and data, maybe not class. It could be regional, but there is a divide. I'm not sure how to categorically. I don't know. How do you say it? I've said both. I think I typically say data. Yes, a data. But I don't know that I've noticed any sort of divide in the people who say one or the other. But I'm skewed, though, because I think the reason why I say data is because data is a key character in one of my favorite shows of all time is Star Trek. He was the number two officer for Captain Picard. His name is data. And so we all knew that. Yeah. And when people say data, I think of the Android, who was like a he was he was AI. He's artificial intelligence who developed. I wouldn't say a soul, but he developed some cognition that was it was it was interesting interesting to explore in the early 90s about AI's development into, you know, sentience. There were some dope episodes about that. But any who data data potato, potato. We're all human beings, man, except for Jeff Bezos. Come in and see Pelosi. I'd be fire. It makes more sense or a lizard person. Now that's a conspiracy. We've done that one, right? I think so. Yeah. David Ike. David Ike was a conspiracy theorist about the lizard people. And he said one of the fire is shit ever. This is why I don't care how much you disagree with somebody doesn't mean they can't say dope shit. He said, he said, because I'm getting too close to the truth. And when you get too close to the truth, they can assassinate you or assassinate your character in the multiple case they've chosen the ladder. And I was like, hey, that is fire. That is a great quote. Yeah. I love that quote. Don't think there's lizard people though. I think that concludes our episode today. I think Eric is back on Monday, right? No, you and I are back on Monday that we're going to record in five minutes on Tuesday. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll do some episodes here. Yeah, I'm gonna be I'm gonna be live in studio and we're gonna put out a golf video. Are we gonna do break in 80? Yeah. Let's do break in 80. That should be fun. Hopefully you Eric and myself. Yeah, this should be easy easy easy touch. We maybe we should break par. That's gonna be I don't think so man. I mean, I'm shot in the 70s. Maybe 75 breaking 75. We'll figure it out. I like that one breaking 75 with the fellas and the ladies. All right, man. We appreciate y'all love y'all and stay safe out there in these streets man. Goodbye.