BravBros Podcast (Formerly Bros&Shows)

Get On The Ladies of London Train ASAP! (Ladies of London Full Recap Episodes 1 & 2)

67 min
Mar 11, 20263 months ago
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Summary

BravBros hosts recap the premiere episodes of Bravo's new "Ladies of London" reality series, introducing an aristocratic cast including Martha, Kimmy, Emma, and others. The episode centers on a garden party where rumors emerge about cast member Dara potentially running a brothel, ultimately leading to Dara's abrupt departure from the show by episode two's end.

Insights
  • Pre-existing relationships among cast members create faster bonding and conflict resolution compared to typical reality TV introductions, reducing slow exposition-heavy first episodes
  • International reality TV formats benefit from cultural nuance and subtle social hierarchies that create conflict without overt aggression, appealing to audiences seeking sophisticated drama
  • Cast members with authentic self-awareness and willingness to laugh at themselves (Martha, Kimmy) generate stronger audience connection than those attempting to control their narrative (Dara)
  • Early cast departures driven by exposure of inconsistencies signal strong editorial control and willingness to challenge cast narratives, setting tone for show credibility
  • Diverse cast backgrounds (models, architects, etiquette experts, entrepreneurs) provide multiple entry points for audience engagement across different demographic interests
Trends
Reality TV casting prioritizing pre-existing social networks over manufactured introductions for authenticity and faster narrative developmentInternational reality formats gaining traction as alternatives to saturated US-based franchises, with London aristocracy appealing to aspirational audiencesAudience skepticism toward self-promotion and name-dropping on reality TV, rewarding vulnerability and self-deprecation over status signalingSocial media-driven fact-checking of reality TV claims (royal family affiliations, business credentials) creating accountability pressure on cast membersFemale-led reality TV increasingly featuring complex financial independence narratives (divorce settlements, self-made businesses) rather than relationship-focused storylinesGarden parties and estate-based events becoming visual storytelling devices for establishing class hierarchies and social dynamics in international reality formatsTherapist appearances on reality TV normalizing mental health discussions and conflict resolution frameworks within entertainment narrativesRapid cast departures becoming narrative tools rather than production failures, signaling editorial confidence and viewer investment in remaining cast
Topics
British Aristocracy and Social HierarchyReality TV Cast Dynamics and Relationship FormationDivorce Settlements and Financial IndependenceEtiquette and High Society ProtocolsFashion Industry and Celebrity StylingPrivate Equity and Wealth ManagementEstate Management and Heritage PropertiesMental Health and Therapy in Reality TVRumor Management and Social ReputationInternational Reality TV Format InnovationFemale Entrepreneurship and Self-Made NarrativesSocial Media Fact-Checking of Reality TV ClaimsGarden Party Culture and Seasonal Social EventsMotherhood and Pregnancy in High SocietyAuthenticity vs. Image Management in Reality TV
Companies
Manchester United
Referenced as employer of Missy's husband, a goalkeeper, establishing cast member's wealth and social status
Longleat House
Historic estate owned by Emma's family, opened to public as zoo to maintain property, generating over 1M annual visitors
Bravo
Network producing Ladies of London series, part of broader reality TV franchise discussed throughout episode
People
Martha
Cast member with rags-to-riches-to-rags narrative, divorced aristocrat renovating cottage, audience favorite for auth...
Kimmy
Socialite and mother of twins, met Mark at 16, established close friendship with Martha, second-favorite cast member
Emma
Marchioness of Bath, first person of color in British aristocracy, manages Longleat House estate with 1M+ annual visi...
Mark Francis
Male cast member and narrator, godfather to Emma's son, owns house in Florence, attempting to reconcile with aging fa...
Dara
Architect and cast member who quit show after episode two following exposure of disparaging comments about best frien...
Micah
Etiquette expert trained by royal family member, best friend of Dara, subject of rumors and gossip at garden party
Missy
Swedish model married to Manchester United goalkeeper, therapist-guided conflict mediator, represents 'new Missy' wil...
Margot
Actress known for explicit film work in UK, close friend of Martha, observant commentator on cast dynamics
Lottie
Fashion industry figure pregnant with first child, met husband Joshua at nightclub, married within year of engagement
Joshua
Fashion tailor to celebrities including Tom Holland, married to Lottie, appears supportive of pregnancy and family pl...
Meghan Markle
Referenced in discussion of first person of color in aristocracy, with cast correcting misconception about her royal ...
Tom Holland
Celebrity client of Joshua's tailoring business, mentioned as example of his high-profile clientele
Quotes
"I didn't have a lot of money. He had a ton of money. So when we went to do the divorce thing, like there was no money to find, it was all gone. So I got to keep my title."
MarthaEpisode 2
"If you do that on camera, you're a porn star. Yeah. Which is fine."
MarthaEpisode 2
"I'm the new and improved Missy. And this isn't sitting well with me. Fuck yeah. I'm going to go right to town."
MissyEpisode 2
"You know what? I just don't think this is the right time for me. This TV show is not gonna work for me. I'm not gonna do it."
DaraEpisode 2 finale
"Martha and Kimmy could stand alone on a show. I'm Mark too with Roman there. Mark's up there."
Co-hostEpisode recap discussion
Full Transcript
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As here's a drive in a deep left field by Castellano, it will be a- Oh man, it's 8 o'clock. And so that'll make it a f- I don't need this spotlight. I shine just fine. Hi, I'm Karma and yes, I am a bitch. Bravo, Bros. Good evening, Governor. Welcome back to- This is highly offensive. Welcome back to another episode of Bravo, Bros. Your favorite podcast from the Bros. For everybody. For whoever wants to listen. I'm a co-host, steel russle of join, does always. But I don't want to know only. Shoot him a gooter. How you doing? This is- And it's not even highly offensive for the reasons that you would think. I'm not like saying that you're offending the people of London. It might be, which is why I apologize. You absolutely could be, but you're offending me. And you're offending everybody's eardrums. There's just a lot of offense going on. It's only going to get worse. I might do a Liverpool. That is actually one thing that I'm thankful for. Like, their accents are fun. Obviously, there's a couple of Americans on here for now. But there's nobody with too deep of an accent where it's like, I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Yeah, it's not too bad. Which obviously we're in higher society. So we shouldn't be expecting that. Hope there's one Cockney person on this show. That would be- There's going to be a family member. There's going to be like a distant friend or something. Somebody that we meet by like episode six, we're like, oh boy, subtitles. Come on. I just, I love that accent. That is such a good one. Like, I always think of a snatch. Brad Pitt and snatch his accent was just, but that's a scouser, isn't it? That's different. Well, no, Brad Pitt was a pikey. No, he was a pikey, but scousers like that- I think it's close to scouser, yeah. Yeah, okay. Sorry again, if I'm just like completely- We do have this in England. Yeah, I know. So I genuinely not trying to offend. If I do get offensive at some point, let me know. I'll do my best. I can't wait to see comments on YouTube or something where people are talking about how they're not going to watch us do this anymore. Because of my accent. Then you actually have to stop. Then I will stop. Yeah, then I will. So if it is offensive to you, please tell us. So we'll stop. Right, let's do I've been- I love this. That's Australian. I know, it's going to go back and forth. That's inevitable. I love this show. This show is fantastic. This cast is great minus one person. Top to bottom, I really don't have a lot of notes. I like the structure. I like how it's set up. It's a little different than some of the shows we have currently. And again, it's a very charming cast. Yeah, but then the one thing that you said is minus one person. I would actually argue she is great too. Yeah, she just can't handle the show. So very clearly she can handle the show. And we'll get into what might be a secret. What might be a rumor? What might be true? And what might not be true? So when it comes to that one person, you'll figure all of those things out with the rest of them are absolutely fantastic. There are a lot of people on the show. So we did figure. We've got a double drop from last Thursday. We'll get you guys all caught up with episodes one and two. We might be jumping around a little bit. So I swear to God, I'm telling you right now. I'll do it. Anybody says anything about spoilers because we're not very, we're following like a chronological order of what happened in episode one and episode two. Enough. I don't want to hear it. I'm telling you right now, this is your warning. Your warning is we might tell you what happens at the end of episode two, 20 minutes into this. And it won't make a whole lot of sense. But it's going to make sense to us because we just have to hop around. Yeah, knock it off. God. I know it's going to be, I'll try. I will try. But I love the cast like I said. And I think that having Mark in there is an interesting and fun kind of nuance that we're not used to. I think he's going to bring a lot to the show. I think he already has. When it set up the first episode, he was kind of the narrator. I loved that. It was kind of like he was taking us through this new show, this new cast, what we should know about people and doing it in a very charming British accent. And they're titles are great. We've got lords and ladies and all sorts of wacky shit. Yeah, now we've got a lot of things going on. Mark in particular, I didn't know how I was going to feel about it. It is called Ladies of London. We're a guy into the mix. I'm going to have some questions. He's fantastic. He really is. And it really just comes to show you. If he has a good rapport, if he has a good relationship with everybody on the show, it doesn't really matter. He just kind of folds right in with everything. He keeps people going. I think that what they have, and obviously, yeah, we have to get through a couple of the speed bumps where it's like, oh, what have you been up to for the last couple of months? But they do all pretty much know each other. And by the end of episode two, they've known enough about each other where when they meet, it's like, oh, I've heard so much about you. And that's enough for me. I'm okay with that because they know what they signed up for and they're getting through this. And there's so many different stories for each individual. There's so many things going on. That's why it's going to be kind of tough. And I said yesterday when we were doing Beverly Hills, that I could not keep everybody straight. I've got everybody straight now. And just took the second episode. That first episode was really tough. Because I'm like, wait, was that Missy? Was that... Missy and Mark? Kimmy. Was that Margot, the only person that stood out was Martha. I would never get anything about her wrong because she is fantastic. I love her so much. I've never fallen in love with a star on Bravo quicker than Martha. She's fantastic. Do nothing with her. Do not change her at all. The only thing you should do with her is give her her own show where we just get to follow Martha. Just give her more money. Just give her a little bit more money. Says she's good. Yes, please. Please. Actually, don't, don't yet. Not a lot of money. I'm just saying enough to make sure that she's okay. Yeah. I want her to, and not because I don't like her, but because she's so very funny. I just want her to watch her struggle a little bit. I don't think she's gonna change, though. She's so open about her struggling through this. And she's still very happy, go lucky, and very aware of what she's going through. And the peaks of valleys of her life as she puts it. But everybody else has so many different things going on. And it just kind of gives you a little bit of an eye into the Aristocrat Society of London. I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure we're not gonna get a whole lot. There's already discourse online where Emma is actually not part of the royal family. Her husband is not part of the royal family. He's at the upper echelon of Aristocrats, not quite royal. Guess what? What? I don't care. Dude, that was the one thing that like, I really wanted to comment, and I actually like, I just don't bother on Twitter because it's accessible. But I really wanted to comment on that. Like who the fuck cares? No, buddy. We're not watching this any differently. I know there are people, especially in America, that are obsessed with the royal family. I think it's bizarre. It's very strange, isn't it? It's very fucking weird. Who cares? There are family. I know they're very rich and wealthy and they've got a lot of power. Whatever. Who cares? It's not even our country. A fucking imperialism. Yeah. They colonized and took over countless lands and stole their money. That's why they are who they are. Yeah. Let's celebrate them. Fuck that. You don't need to put a PSA out there and be like, by the way, not part of the royal family. How dare she? And then you're talking about Meghan Mark. It's like, shut up. Who can, there's a Bravo show. Who gives a fuck? Nobody. Nobody cares. We could have fake titles now would be like, well, it's fantastic. Also, we're gonna split hairs. Did you see her house? Yeah. Okay. She's got the it factor. She's fine. Even if she's an asterisk lady. You know what it actually says to me because as we meet, well, two things. Real quick, I'm gonna say, the stick of saying this is and then introducing us to who it is, was funny at first that it wasn't funny anymore. That it was really funny. And then it was really fucking funny when we introduced the baby who's not born yet. That was fantastic. But going into Emma's backstory, I think there is a part of probably people that live over there that really do look at the royals and they're like, oh, wow, nobody can touch them. The fact that I guess her husband's ancestor decided to open the doors to his banner and allow people in for a zoo, that's probably frowned upon. It was. There's probably so many people that are, I know it was back then. And it probably- The Royal family. Yeah, like people in their 30s and 40s that live over there or obsessed with the royals are probably like, eh, no. Oh, the commoners are allowed there. What are we doing? Tisks. Those dirty animals are on your property. Peab's into your home. Should be a personal zoo. That's disgusting. Yeah. Yeah, so I'm sure there's a lot of that going on. But like I said, there's a lot of different characters and we go through all of them. I don't think we're gonna do extensive backgrounds on all of them while we're recapping this. We'll probably just run through some relevant information back to the surface. But for the most part, I mean, we just got thrown into this thing. Yeah, which I love. I like when shows do that. I don't like the first episode of, this is so-and-so. Here's their backstory. Here's a glimpse into their life. Yeah. Here's so-and-so. You know what I'm saying? And it's a show that we liked that didn't get renewed was girlfriend's of Paris. Yeah. Where it was one person who was sort of like the matriarch of the group introducing us to every single individual. And then it's like, here's their backstory. And it took us two episodes to get through it all. And I honestly think that might be one of the reasons it did not go. Yeah, it just started a little too slow. Whereas this, we're like, oh yeah. Big thing that happens over here, especially in the summer, summer is the season in London. We're gonna go to a garden party. I've heard of garden parties. I always wanted to go to a garden party. Now I'm here just kind of looking through the camera lens, but I'm here. Now we're there. Yeah, we're there. That's why I always in our recap say, and now we're going to some. Because we're going, yeah. You know, just because I'm sitting at home eating beef jerky watching this does not mean I shouldn't be in a garden party with the beautiful aristocrats sipping on champ, well, water. Yeah, because I don't, you know. Yeah, yeah, I put that together. Well, that's a fun show to recap. Let's jump in to ladies of London. I will say you already touched on it, but I do think that the reason this show is so good is because of the relationships that are already formed. But I wonder how much of it is because of where they're at. And like in London, obviously, they have painted this picture. And we've heard about it. You've got the royal family, the aristocracy. All of these things are very real and tangible. Mm-hmm. Because you have a group that is all vying to climb the social ladder and be part of this up-resh along a society. I think you're going to see relationships form faster. Even if they're fake and forced, they're going to try to play nice with each other and be around each other more to try to climb that ladder. And maybe we'll see some budding friendships happen earlier on. I can't wait to see some of the fallouts from this stuff because now it's like, oh, you're embarrassed me. Tuh. That's gonna be fun. Yeah, no, it's gonna be fun. It's gonna be a lot of, it's just gonna be a lot more of a different look than what we're used to for watching a housewife show. Yeah, because it's a different country. It's a different culture. When they're actually saying mean things to you, it doesn't look like they're saying mean things to you, but they really are cutting you deep. I think it's a linear. Yeah, it's a lot, it's a lot of meaner. And they're talking about you behind your back, but they're also talking to your face and saying the same thing in a meaner way. So there's a lot of weird things that are gonna happen that you're not really gonna be able to see. But I love when we're going back into like, how everybody knows each other. It seems like, especially when it comes to Mark, it goes back to, well, you know, I met him when he was 19 years old, and we were just kind of bopping around London going to all these exclusive parties, getting absolutely fucking wasted. I mean, there's so many fucking different stories about how we met, and it's, I went on a bender with them for like four or five days, so we were just, everybody on the show met. Exactly, and I love that, because that shows me one, you guys didn't meet in the, obviously, we've got a couple of people. Mike is probably the easiest person to look at, who have met in the last like couple of months or years even, but even that, it's like, okay, you know enough about her. It's not like a new introduction. It's not like, oh my God, how did you get on this show? Tell me everything about your life in America before you came here. Like, we're not gonna do any of that, because no one seems to care, and I'm completely cool with that. Don't, right? Like, there's this air of like, that has nothing to do with me. I don't really care to talk about that. And also, you're here now, that's really all I care about. Right, you get a lot of people living very much in the present, which bodes very well for not only a reality TV show, but a new reality TV show, because we're jumping right in to where they're at. Yeah. And they're not trying to take us back. They're like, oh, this one time, and oh, this one time, that nope, we are in the current day. And I love that about this show. Now, the first person we meet is Mark Francis, who is giving us the run through of the season in London, which is the summer, and he's got, everything's so, I don't mean this in fact, but like British. Like, he's like, oh, we're going to a garden potty at the Dartmouth house. I'm like, of course you are. Let's go. But we keep trucking through and we get to meet Kimmy. Kimmy's a socialite. She met Mark at 16, and doing what you said, they were on a bender together. They got fucked up and they met. And I love Kimmy. Kimmy's probably my number two. Yeah, Kimmy's number two. Martha and Kimmy could stand alone on a show. I'm Mark too with Roman there. Mark's up there. But once they start doing that, then I'm like, well, you can't really do that without someone out like without Missy. You can't really do that without Margo. So like you keep adding people from the cast because we're still very early on and there's not enough of like a red flag that sticks out right away. We're like, ah, they can move on without this person. We're still enjoying everybody, which is more than you can say about a lot of shows when you first start watching them. Yep, I agree. Missy, we get to meet her. She's a model from Sweden, grew up in Sweden, travels the world, moved back to London somewhat recently. And it looks like she's really kind of settling down there. She's married to Manchester United's goalie. Yeah, I knew like the late 2000s. Thank you. Linda Gard, yeah. Okay, I was racking my brain. I didn't want to look it up. I don't know who her second husband is. They keep showing him. Party boy. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I'm sure if I lived over there, I would probably know. That's fun about this too. It's like, oh my god. If you heard he's hanging out with so and so, I'm like, oh, I don't know that person. No, I'm sure there's going to be a lot of mentions like footballers and like things and musicians and things like. Yeah. I'm actually, I'm pumped for all of that. But Micah, she is an etiquette expert who, got into etiqueting, etiquette, etiquette doing etiquette. She got into doing etiquette because she went to a party and felt as though she was completely not up to snuff looked around and was like enamored with how people were holding their cutlery and drinking their wine. So she trained under one of the royal family's etiquette people or something. Yep. Sounds right. Sounds about right. Anyway, that's what she does for a living. I definitely recognize her. I think I saw her on say knock like during COVID or something. Her face looks so familiar. Yeah, and it is dangerously close to a different housewife member that does weird shit online that's like, I don't really care for what you're doing. But she's okay for now. Anthony Franco? No, I was going to a man at the money queen. Oh god. It's like, I got to teach you etiquette. I'm going to teach you courses. At least this is tangible. Yeah, you can be there in person and be like, oh, I can show you what I've done from here. That makes more sense. But I'm sure and I haven't gone to our website yet, but she probably does have a website. And there's probably 50 different courses that you can take. And they're all pretty much the same. I give her much more credence and I give the money queen. That's fair. Because again, you can go there and think about every single rags to riches hide the poor person in the rich family, move your show. Yeah, always get the etiquette scene. Princess Diaries. And half the way. She did it. We got the cattullion and all that bullshit that people call it. The other thing is her husband's in private equity and travels a lot. I know. That guy. I think he probably makes a good amount of money. It sounds like it. Yeah. She's on here with Daris as about her knowing her husband's in private equity. Yeah. She's a lot of 50K in US dollars a month for whatever they're going to be renting or buying. So it's a pretty good space to be in. Yeah. And Daris going to say later on, like, she fakes her life. She has no clap. I think she's got more than you, Daris. Unfortunately, we're not going to find out enough about Daris to really be like, oh, what are you talking about, lady? Unless something comes out, but like, we'll get into it later. But without her being there anymore, it might not get to the point where somebody's going to do like an expose on her. And we're going to find out what she's really about. She may have called a quits right away. She may have called a quits at the right time. She might have gotten out early enough. Yeah. Because there's definitely some skeletons in that closet. Absolutely. And they all center around the fact that I'm convinced at this moment that, yes, she is, in fact, a madam. I'll let you be. Yeah. So that's the scuttle butt going around the garden party. Yeah, you like that one? We're a fancy. Yeah, we really are. That's what they're talking about at the garden party. And everybody pretty much shows up, except for Darah. We're all talking about, oh, I was not there either. She's in Cannes. Yeah. Well, Emma's going to be missing an action. I feel a good amount. I have a feeling as well. Yeah, which is fine. As long as she brings up all she's there. But that's what they're all talking about because Mike is best friend is Darah, who she calls Bunny. And apparently Darah doesn't like it. We've seen some clips that Darah doesn't like it. But Mike continues to do it. And they're all talking about, oh, did you hear about Darah, who's not here in Cannes to fend herself? I heard that she's a madam. And I love Martha's reaction right away. Well, Martha's not even there yet when it comes up. But yeah, Martha, she probably is the best reaction of the whole thing. But before we even get to that point of the madam thing dropping, we get the run through of, like you said, Mike, she's my best friend. We've known each other for 24 years. Like I would do anything if I would die for a cut to Darah. Yeah, we're not really that close. Like yes, we're here here in there, but like it's not that serious. Yeah. So that's the setup. Yeah, that's the easy setup. But when everybody's there and they're talking about it, Martha's reaction is priceless. It's so fantastic. I love that. Wow. And then she proceeds to go around and talk to everybody about it. Now the whole thing came from, and it kind of joins forces with something that Missy had heard, where Missy was talking to Darah straight up talking about Micah. What's your relationship like with Micah? What's your friendship like with Micah? Well, it's a weird example to use. She's kind of cringe because she gave me pink walkie talkies the other day, and I didn't know what to do with it. But that's just kind of who Micah is. Missy doesn't know what to do with this information. I thought what she said. I thought she was, well, that's pretty much what she said. Call her tacky. She said, I wrote it down. Embarrassing was another word. You're softening the blow. I'm softening the blow because it, it does matter for episode two, but I don't think it's really gonna matter much after that. Well, no, it doesn't mean shit after that. But we are covering the first two episodes, so it is pertinent right now. It might be here for three hours the way we're going. Well, once we get past this, it starts to stretch out a little bit. Stretch it out in the way of you just doing accents for another 45 minutes. Right. Again, all Australian. Right. Still all Australian. I know. I'll bother. You're just gonna be softer with it. I can do all it is. Well, the funny thing is, like I can do two British accents, like without changing them, and that's cockney, weirdly enough. And the high society aristocracy. Hello. All you have to do. Yes, indeed it is. However, I will not be told what I am to do by the likes of you. Now shall we carry on with our podcast? Please. Thank you. The big thing to come from the news that Dara was talking shit is now Missy is in between a rock and a hard place. She doesn't know, should I go tell Micah? Should I have Dara tell Micah? Should I go talk to her about it? I don't know what to do. So she's kind of up in limbo right now. You talked to my therapist about this? Yeah, talk to your therapist about it. Rue. Rue, we get to meet Rue in episode two. Do we do? And the last news from the Garden Party is that Lottie's pregnant. And we get to meet Lottie and her husband Joshua. Joshua, yep. Yep, that's something. And they are both in the fashion industry, I think. It seems to me like those people, they're all over the world and on Instagram especially. They're famous for like being famous. Well, Joshua's a little different because Joshua is a tailor to the famous people. Okay, thank you. So he's dressed a bunch of different, I guess, the wrist and the grass, like that. The oils. They were talking like Tom Holland and stuff. Yeah, yeah, musicians, actors, things like that. So that's where he is and he looks great and he looks like he's always putting it on. And we find out in episode two that when they met, they went to the box. I know, the box got another call out. Box gets another call out, this is the London one which is probably less creepy than the one in New York. No, no, it's in Soho. Is there a Soho in London? That's confusing. You'll figure it out. You'll get there. You'll get there. Yes. Oh you. Yeah, they were at the box in London and they were making out and she thought that he was Johnny Depp at first. So the guy looks great. What do you get to say? I mean, that's a great comparison. It is, you know, especially with that facial hair. Damn right. Oh, it was very deppesque facial hair. Yes, yes it was. Now, this is when we get to learn about titles because Martha goes first and she's like, well, I'm a lady which is pretty much like the bottom of the totem pole. So she is technically royalty through her ex and when they got divorced, that's episode two of Who cares? She, just the way she tells things because she's so candid and so just open about everything. It lands so good because she's like, well, I didn't have a lot of money. He had a ton of money. So when we went to do the divorce thing, like there was no money to find, it was all gone. So I got to keep my title. Yeah, I got to keep my title at the end of the day. He had high powered lawyers. I didn't have high powered lawyers. So that's how that came about. And now here I am. That's looking in this one. Yeah, it's so good. Yeah, no, she's so good at doing that. Like the way that she talks about things is such a matter of fact, tone and then can laugh it off at the end. It's like, all right, cool. You don't take yourself that seriously. That's check box number one. Yep. And the next royal, or I guess this is for debate now. On mathematics. But the next royal is Emma, who we didn't get to meet you in Cannes. She is the Martianness of Bath, which is the wife of a marquee. I believe, okay, see, we're doing it, we're doing it. And I guess she's one of like the most important British aristocrats and one thing that she has going for her, which is actually really, really cool is she was the first person of color to be in the aristocracy. And a lot of people, this is probably where this is coming from because people are like Meghan Markle stands. Yeah. A lot of people, credit Meghan Markle. Who was it that called her out? I think it was Lottie, who was like, Meghan Markle likes to say that she is, but she's not. It's actually Emma. It's like, hell yeah. Yeah, yeah, let's get a win for Emma there. And we also don't want to disrupt the Meghan Markle fans. I'm afraid of those people. It's actually a very good point. Yeah. I like Meghan Markle. Yeah, me too. I have no problems. I also. Great American. It took me. Oh, that was funny. Um, it took me to like episode season two of suits to realize that was Meghan Markle. No. And literally the whole first season, I'm like, God, she looks so familiar. And then I finally watched the opening credits. I was like, Meghan Markle's like, ah, that's what it is. I literally went, oh, and she looked at me like I was the dumbest person on the planet. It's okay. We all have those moments. Yeah, I have more than others, but it's okay. Now what Emma does, she is in charge of the estate, the house, and the family. She runs Longleet House, which is the house that we talked about earlier, that the previous owner of said house, I believe it was, her husband, Sewellyn. Yes. Her husband, Sewellyn had, uh, maybe it was his grandfather or his dad, whatever, it doesn't matter. They opened the house to the public, which was very much found upon by the royal family. They said, no, you shun't do that. He did it anyway in order to pay for the house, which actually makes a lot of sense, because I've also seen those movies where you have an old British estate, and you have like the long lost relative coming into the estate. And it's this beautiful, massive house. And they go talk to somebody like the one person that's taking care of the caretaker. Yep. And they're like, oh, there's no money. The place is falling apart. We can't do any. All we have is this giant fucking house. So I actually think it's a good idea. And like if you're gonna turn your fancy, shmancy house into anything, a zoo, hell yeah. A zoo is awesome. If you have that much land and you have that much going on for you, absolutely bring it in. And we see the buses literally coming into the estate. So they have more than a million people visit a year. Uh huh. Yeah, and that does not surprise me one bit. So good for them opening it up, and she seems so far anyway. She seems to be a woman of the people, which we love to see, especially in the status that she's in. We want to see more of that. But I do have a sneaky suspicion that because of what we see obviously where she missed the first garden party, she came late to the dinner in the second episode. I think she's gonna be all around, you know, sparingly. It appears that she has a very demanding sketch. Yeah. So yeah, hopefully I like her a lot. So I hope she gets on screen more often than not. But I love watching somebody that's like, you know, quote unquote royalty rubbing mud on a rhino. Yeah. Like that's what I want to see. Yeah, absolutely. The late ability, not that I've ever rubbed mud on a rhino. Yeah. I would. I would rub mud on a rhino. I would rub mud on a rhino. Yeah. I don't know why it's so tough to say. It's weird to say, isn't it? Yeah. I don't want to say it in a rhino. Rubbed on a rhino. Say that at home. If you're driving right now, say it out loud. Why would you want them to do it while they're driving? But I would much prefer to long-lead Martha's new cottage. So be fitting of who Martha is as a person. It's almost like it embodies who, especially once we get some reno's done, because we start talking about her backstory. And she's the classic rags to riches to rag story. Yeah. And she goes through her past and so you know, she married into high society. Or I guess she was a model, right? She was a model. So is her entrance into high society. And then they said later, which was a little confusing when Darra was trying to say that everybody was self-made. Yeah. And then she was trying to say that there was a famous entrepreneur at some point, whatever it was. So her backstory, she talks about this. She was found by some photographer or some stylist. Essentially, she was living on the street. That gave her a leg up. Then she started doing all of those things. She got into high society, married back into it. Then she was fully into it. So that's kind of where she started. And it's been an absolute roller coaster ride since. Yeah, because she got divorced. And then she got no money from that. Another dude and got money again. They got divorced. Same thing happened. So now she's in her independent phase, which I love that we're going to get to witness that. She doesn't want to do the same thing again. She wants to stand her own two feet. So we respect that. But Margot comes over to hang out with her. And the scene that is given to us is almost that of like a cute rom-com. Yeah. With like the wacky friend. Yeah. Because she lives in this little cottage. It's like falling apart. She has a fucking bird named Hecate, who is just chaos. To the point that Margot has to put goggles on. She's like, oh, if he sees your iris, he'll pick it out. But he's great. Yeah, though, he's great. He's so sweet. And he just wants to get to know you. He just wants to hang out with you. But put these goggles on. Yeah. If your people move way too fast, he just wants to stick his beak in there and see what's going on. He just wants to see what's going on there. And I get that. I like that he's a curious mind. That bird. Sure. But if I got my eye picked out by someone's pet bird. Yeah. I'd be pretty pissed. You know what Hecate is? No. The goddess of witchcraft from Greek mythology. Oh, Hecate says it really works out well. Of that. I thought you meant the bird. I thought you knew what type of bird it was. Oh, no. No. Although I do, I don't know why. There must have been a Hecate at some point that was in, I feel like the animated Hercules had one. It was a bird and it was a crow. And I can't really wrap my head around. I couldn't find anything online. So it might just be maybe a Mandela effect only on me. Oh, good. But I don't really know exactly what it was. But either way, this is exactly what you want to see. And Margo and Martha are very close. And this was just such a funny scene. Because like you said, we go from Emma's beautiful estate, albeit with a zoo, to an actual zoo inside of Martha's apartment. Yes. So that was a good little line up. Great cut through. And you're going to see an episode too, where she's getting the sitting room judged up a little bit. We'll talk about that in a little while. But that's why I said the house is embodying her because it's this like very quaint, but charming little cottage that just needs a little work. Yeah. It needs to, you know, judge it up a little bit. That's all. So love Martha, love the house. And we get to meet Margo at the house or get to know Margo. More Margo is an actress. Works primarily in London has not worked in the US to the point where she's like, yeah, I was out in California. And people are like, oh, I'm pretty much talking to her like she's a rookie. And she's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, check my empty bait. Because I came onto the scene hot, no pun intended, because she was in the first ever like full sex movie. Yeah. In England, in the UK. Yeah. That's pretty much what I got from that. Guess what she did was she actually, how do I put this in the best way? She finished off her Melco worker on set. That was so much worse. Yeah. Why would you say that? I don't know, man. I don't know. She's a Melco worker. She had sex in completion on camera. No, she didn't even have sex. Lachio. Why are you saying weird fucking things right now? That is really funny, though. And I just love hearing that whole story and then bouncing over to Martha, who's like, well, I mean, if you're going to, I think it was actually Kimmy that's it. That was like, yeah, well, if you're going to do it as an actress, you just kind of get in that mindset. You just want to make sure that everything's right. It makes a lot of sense to me. Yeah. And then Martha's the one that says, if you do that on camera, you're a porn star. Yeah. Which is fine. Yeah. So again, the commentary I love, like just when we jump, I've never enjoyed Confessionals so much because I just, everything they say is funny. But they're looking at a house or she's looking at a house with a realtor and nodding hill. It's like six grand a night. So I imagine her career has been fairly lucrative. I'm not sure what her husband does yet. Did she tell us? I don't think so. Well, regardless, she's a three kids and a husband and a nanny and they're looking at a new spot in the city. Moving right along, we get Kimmy at home. We get to meet her kids. That's the other thing, dude. Everyone's backstories are so unique and interesting. Yeah, they really are. That's the one thing that this show is not lacking. Not at all. When you get to meet Kimmy and her kids, we also get to meet who was a steward, who's the father of the twins, Amadeus and Mimi. They were married for 23 years. Now they got divorced, I believe. I guess. She didn't say it specifically. It was really clarified. They separated. They weren't together and Kimmy wanted kids. Reach out to stew. Stew was like, you know what? I had me too. And they got back together just to have the kids. They got two kids out of it. And then they didn't really talk for four years. Yeah. And she was just raising the kids by herself. I think. I think it sounds like a nanny came back in the picture and in her words, he's fine. Yeah, they're co-parenting, I guess. Sort of. He likes the kids is what I got from it. Yeah, that's pretty much all I got from it. I don't think we're going to see a whole lot of stew. Now, and that brings us to Dara, who is an architect, started a company at 29. And you can tell immediately, at least I could, way too name drop in and stuff. I was already skeptical. She's like, oh, I know. I'm doing a collab with Venus Williams. She's a dear old friend of mine. I don't believe you. Yeah. Now I don't believe anything. That one line, I'm like, oh, you're full of shit. Yeah, she's absolutely full of shit. She actually is the only one on the entire cast that was doing the thing that you would typically see in the beginning of a show. Yeah. So in the first episode, you're going to get everybody kind of going through, trying to make themselves see more important than they actually are. No one else did that. No one else did that. Even episode two, eventually, Micah does name drop that the person that she learned, etiquette from, also taught etiquette to Princess Diana. So it's like, okay, cool. I like that. Two degrees of separation. That's fine. Dara talking is exactly what you would expect. I know this person, this person, this person, I've worked on. So many cool campaigns. Mind you, we already have heard the rumor that you're a madam. So this is really funny placement. It's fantastic placement. 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So as we get into episode two, the important thing that, because we skipped a little bit. So it's just important to know, Micah and Dara had another conversation. And all it does is really paint this picture because Micah's telling her about the garden party and how I stuck up for you. And we're like sisters. And they do to you. They're doing it to me. And Dara's just got this like carefree. I don't give a fuck attitude. It's actually worse than that. It's not even like a thank you. Like, oh wow. That sucks to hear. I'm just grabbing my back, but I really don't care. It would just immediately jump to why the hell do I care about that? It's so ridiculous that I'm not even going to pay attention to it, which in a sense I get. But the way it's not what she was giving it all. Like if I just read that right now, you'd be like, okay, yeah, that's actually kind of cool. It's kind of crazy. It's ludicrous. It's a weird rumor. You can just dispel it immediately. But the way she came across, the way she was talking to Micah, I'm like, I don't trust you. I don't like the way you're going about this. Between this and next episode, what it gave me is that she went blank. Yeah. Both times. Yeah. Did not know how to respond. It was racking your brain for something to say. Either something witty, something defensive. And it was so staunchly caught off guard. She was like, I don't care. I did not know how to handle herself. Yeah. And I think that's what we're going to see more of an episode too. But like even with the guy, she went to hear real gossip. And then she's like, one of our best friends has hurt that's your friends with the next is wife. What? What? Yeah. I don't mean Micah's like, what are you talking about? Yeah. She's like, were you asked for gossip? No. No, I didn't ask for that gossip. No, you told me that you had hot gossip. I was listening to your hot. Yeah. Come on. But that episode ends with Martha and Missy. And Missy is just trying to figure out what to do. Do I tell Dara? Do I tell Micah? Do I bring it up at dinner? What should I do? And the resounding word from everybody in the cast. And I wonder if this is a cultural thing. I would stay out of it. Yeah. That's none of your business. I actually really do love that too because everybody comes over to Missy. And Missy's really just like, when she's at the Garden Party trying to rack her brain about what she does with this information. And it's not like crazy information. Like yes, we are also talking to Dara about all of the things going on with her potentially being a madam. I get it. But it's not that weird to be like, I need to tell somebody. I have to get involved. I get that. And everybody's like, no. You don't. I mean, if you really want to get involved, I guess go for it. But I wouldn't do that. And it's the most sound advice that maybe I've seen on Bravo. No, it is. Like, I don't touch that one. Yeah. But this episode starts out with Micah. And we've already run through. This is where you get to know more about the first etiquette course with Royal Family member, whatever. And more about what her husband does. But the big message from this scene is that her friends are her family. So she's in London. All she has is her husband who is never home to the point where she says, he tells me he wants to be here. He says it all the time. I'm like, oh, lovely. Anyway, one of those things where he's really working towards the future of being there all the time. I don't know. I never know how to feel about that. I'm just going to take my read from how you feel about it. I don't think she feels great. No. No, I feel like that. No, no, no. No, we're in the same boat. I already know that. She has rationalized so many times that now she just has this answer. He's working towards it. Yeah. But it also changed because she's like, he travels every week for work. I'm like, okay, private equity makes a ton of money. Like that makes sense. He's in Zurich when he facetimes he has something. I got it. But when she says he wants to be here, I'm like, oh, so he's never home. It's not during the week. He's just gone. Yeah. Got it. No, no. So the whole thing being her friends are her family. Sarah, Dara is her sister. So to lose that would be tough, right? Yeah, you think so. You think so? Yeah. Woof. Don't worry. We'll get there. Absolutely. She literally says, if I don't have Dara, then who do I have? I'll say no. But we go back to Dara and she's setting up the dinner party. Then she facetimes Lottie. She's getting the recap of the garden party. And here you have another instance of, I'll say what Poppy used to say when she would get brain freeze. Yeah. Brain, poop. She doesn't know what to say. And she literally laughed. She goes, I wrote he ha, he, he ha. Yeah. That's what it sounded like. Yeah, pretty much. And then said nothing in return. She just said that you are in charge of a brothel. And you are allegedly this high society architect. Do you have a response? How do you feel? Yeah. This was, honestly, she's done a couple of things in these first two episodes that make me think that if she really wanted to be on the show, she would be pretty good on the show. And she does stuff like this where I'm like, oh, you have no idea how to operate. No. This is insane to me because you just had your best friends sit down with you, unquote, best friend and tell you this is what's going on. You would think you would have a better retort after somebody else brings it up to you. Instead it's like, oh yeah. Ha, ha, ha. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, what are you trying to say? I don't know. They could at least just say like copy and paste what you just told Mike of the day before. Did you ever tell Mike anything? I told her gossip. I told her gossip. It would be better than, yeah. Give her some hot gossip. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. That would actually be really funny if that was her about when she's turned around. She's like, ah, yeah, that's the, I don't know. Yeah. You want some hot gossip? I heard you had sex with your partner. I didn't want to hear that. What are you talking about? What? You said you wanted gossip. Actually, a great move. It is a really funny move. Play it the right way. Yeah. Probably get out of a lot of things, especially in this capacity. Yeah. But this, I'm glad that she's gone, honestly, and spoiler alert. She leaves the show after this episode. I'm glad she's gone because I was getting so irritated by these comments she was making. She goes to confessional every time, by the way. So she's trying to explain to us what an important public figure she is. Yeah. How high society up brash lawn she is by saying things like, well, Mike is more sensitive than I. And, you know, that you formulate more, more opinions about a public figure. Mike doesn't have that yet. Yeah. Who the fuck do you think you are? If not, I think. Because your castmates have also made it pretty clear, like you're not that big of a deal. No. Like no one said like, oh my god, she's an architect to the stars. She built the fucking Wembley Stadium or like anything like that. We don't know you. We don't know what you do it on. And in fact, we're actually talking about something that you might be doing versus what you actually are doing. Exactly. And everybody else has had a bunch of different moments where we talk about what they actually do or what they don't do. For you, it's like, ah, I don't know what she does on a day-to-day operation. But she might. Yeah. And one's an architect. I guess, yeah, but she didn't go into the second business. Yeah. Because you can't on camera. You're getting in trouble. Yeah. Allegedly. She realized that right away. Yeah, she figured that out pretty damn quick. But it just, it's, it drove me nuts because again, I don't know who you're trying to convince that you're a big deal. Yeah. Because we don't believe you. People that are this big of a deal don't talk like you. Plus look at your castmates. Yes. I mean, we've already gone through the gauntlet. We're now kind of impervious to whatever you might be, unless the actual like, queen region. I don't know what the hell. What do we call cameo at this point? Oh. Because they're not married. Ready to launch your business? Get started with the commerce platform made for entrepreneurs. Shopify, especially designed to help you start, run, and grow your business with easy customizable themes that let you build your brand. Marketing tools that get your products out there. And we've created shipping solutions that actually save you time from startups to scale ups, online, in person, and on the go. Shopify is made for entrepreneurs like you. Sign up for your $1 a month trial at Shopify.com slash setup. 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So we get to meet Emma a little bit more and they're back story. They met in Central Pay 14 years ago and they're inseparable. To the point that Mark is actually Emma's youngest son's godfather so they're actually very close. Kimmy arrives and just the banter between these three. And I think this is going to be a lot of the ladies in the group which I'm very much looking forward to. It's so quick. It's witty. It's funny. They don't get stuck on bullshit. Like the madden thing becomes our running joke and you can tell Emma's a little like, eh, this is a little, you know, a little what's the word taboo like we shouldn't be talking and Kimmy's like, fuck that like making jokes. Let's grow up. Mark with his amazing laugh is laughing at everything. Yeah. It's just a good vibe at the table. Yeah. Yeah. You can tell very quickly that we're not going to get bogged down by stupid shit on the show. Exactly. But Mark lets us know that he has a house in Florence and this goes back to the madden thing. Now you have people looking for evidence and combing through conversations to try to find little things. And he brings up the fact that he has a house in Florence. And when he mentioned that to Dara, she was like, oh, I was just in a wedding in Italy. Or vice versa, doesn't really matter what the setup was. And Mark was like, oh, awesome. What part of Florence or Tuscany? Tuscany it was because Florence isn't Tuscany. I don't know. What? Yeah, she did the all the my assistant. I'm so important that my assistant has an assistant. You don't know where you went. No, that's insane to me. That's not a thing. It was also now we've gotten to the point where she had already gone. Like she missed the garden party because she was at that event. She had a conversation with somebody prior to that and didn't know where she was going. She came back and still doesn't know where she was. That's insane to me. I don't believe you. No, no, I don't believe that you were there. Correct. We didn't get any pictures. Where's the pickies? Where is the pigs? Show me some evidence. It's too high class. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Check your phone at the door. But in learning about that house in Florence, we learned that Mark's father lives near Florence and he bought this house and hopes to reconnect with his father. I guess they had a pretty tough relationship throughout their entire lives. And he's under the thought now that you know what? I don't want to wait until it's too late. So I'm going to try to garnish whatever friendship or relationship I can have with my father at this point before it's too late, which I respect. And I'm actually interested in that storyline if we're going to get to go to Florence or we're going to meet Dad because he says his health is deteriorating pretty quickly. So we don't really know much more than that. I assume we're going to get some sort of story arc where he has like a coming together with his dad and they talk more about all the things that they missed because what did you say? It's like 15 years or something that it's been like like this? Maybe even more. Maybe even more? Yes. I'm assuming by some point we'll get like a coming together of the two of them and it'll be highly emotional. Yeah, I hope it is. I hope I cry. You will. Thank you, Josh. Almost guaranteed it. I mean, it doesn't take much. You know, you get to Lottie's baby photo shoot. She's getting some picks before they have the baby Joshua. Is he one of those where you're Josh? It's Joshua. It's definitely Joshua. Yeah, I think so for sure. Joshua joins and this is where we get the backstory. They met at the box, you know, we were hanging out for 10 minutes next thing. I know we've been in the basement snogging for two hours. I love snogging. It's so good. It's a good word. They got engaged. What was it? Eight weeks later and they were married within the year. Now there are three years in with a baby on the way. So they seem to get along really well. We haven't seen like buying the scenes at all, but they seem to vibe. So I'm more to say in that because a lot of times you get these these shotgun weddings. I know it's not actually a shot go wedding is now they're having the baby. No, it's yeah, this seems very mutual. Yeah, yeah. But usually you get these where it's like, yeah, we met after a week. We were engaged. We got married in a month and then you get a day fiance. Right, pretty much you get Gigi from the Valley. Yes, yes, that's exactly what you got, but we're not getting that with these. No, these two love each other. Yeah, for now. Yeah. And I also love that she goes into how she was waiting for her pregnancy to actually pop before she was going to do the fix. She's like, I'm just going to pass to pass to put down some pasta. If you say that with a different inflection, it doesn't sound British either. It just sounds like, what is that? It doesn't pass to pass to I don't know. Yeah, it's kind of it's New York if New York wasn't very Italian. Okay, it's like what you would imagine if there was no Italian influence in New York, whatsoever. Okay, it's a New York accent with that. All right, I'll fuck with that. But let's get back to Martha's college. That's all I really care about. And you know, she's going through the British biscuit tin, which we find out. Do you know what those are for guys to keep the rats out? Yeah, that's exactly what it's always been. No, you might be familiar with sewing kits inside of the British biscuit tin. British biscuit tin. Yeah, that's a tough one to do too. Are they always British? Because like I can see the sewing box in my head. I would imagine so, yeah. I just know that old-ass box of cookies. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I've opened it to the origins many times in high hopes. And fat, which I don't know why I have high hopes either. The cookies are never good. No, no, the cookies are kind of rough. Like to be honest. Yeah, dust with like a little bit. You might get one that has a little bit of a fruit filling. Yeah, a little bit. She'll eat just hanging on there. She'll eat just right in there. And then it gets really chewy when they're stale. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you can't even like break them into pieces. It's just one, it's like gung-wob. It's like a cookie gum. Yeah. Fun way. Not into it. Prefer sewing. Yeah, me too. But anyway, Martha's getting some work done. One of her friends is an interior designer. So we find out that she's going to get the sitting room. She's just up a little bit. We got 2.5 K max to spend on this whole thing. But this just gives us more about Martha's backstory. It's more of the, you know, she's relied on men. She's had these high society lifestyle. She's also had the opposite. She was homeless at one point. But she's letting us at home know that she's going to do it on her own this time. Yeah. You know what, you're off to a great start, Martha. Yeah, she's doing a great job. Now, that quickly goes away with the $300 that she pays a random man. But she's got to have a learning curve. So fun. She's so funny and so not surprising. No. She met a man in the park who she told about her house and needed a painted. And the guys, I do that. Why are we? Why are we $300 right now? And I'll figure it out for you. Yeah. But the best part is when she tells, I believe it's Margot that she's talking to about that. And when she tells her, she's like, oh, you pay for the paint. No. Would you pay? I don't know. You know, the other stuff. Fuck equipment. Like, I don't know what's going on. I believe I've been had. But as we know, Mrs. Goin through it, trying to figure out what to do about this Dara Micah situation. So she invites Rue Over, who is her therapist. And she goes through her backstory a little bit more about why she is the way she is, how she got to where she is. She was with some dude. So she got two kids with two different dads. She was with one guy, I believe it's her most recent ex. That was just awful to her. You would say things like, oh, men are looking at you. It's because of you. It's what you're wearing. You're doing this because you're attractive. So it's your fault, which is probably one of my least favorite things in the world. But she's been through it. So she's got some trust issue. She's trying to get her life back to normal because she felt like she was playing victim for too long because of her situation. And she doesn't want to go into victim mode. Then she's at the bottom of a hole. And then she realized her ex was like her dad. There's a lot of shit that Missy is trying to deal with right here. Yeah. And on top of all of that, she has to figure out a way to tell the rest of the group or rather just tell Micah that Dara is not a good friend or tell Dara to tell Micah. Yeah. That's what she's wrestling with. That's what she's really wrestling with. Yeah. Which is just so funny because you can see again, we've checked in with the rest of the group how they feel about it. They're like, I don't get involved. I don't want to deal with any of this. But if you do get involved, we'll have her back. Make sure that you're okay. But also don't get involved. They say, you know what? Fuck that. Normally, I wouldn't get involved. The old Missy is not getting involved. But I'm the new and improved Missy. And this isn't sitting well with me. Fuck yeah. I'm going to go right to town. I'm going to go right to Dara. We love that. We love new Missy. We don't know old Missy, but we love new Missy. Certainly not. Because this is what we need. You know, it's a great note for a new Bravo Lab. Yeah, no, take that shit to her. Hell yeah. Go question her in front of the whole group. Fuck it. The fact that she did, because we do a quick one off with Margot and pretty much the only funny thing from that other than the house hunting for $50,000 a month, is that she got sober because of a weekend with Martha. Yeah. Not because it was like this horrible thing happened. Not because, you know, she ended up in the hospital. She could not hang with Martha to the point where when she was done the weekend or week, she felt so full of alcohol that she was sweating vodka and swore off drinking. It was one of those where you wake up really hungry. Like I'm never drinking again. She stuck to it. She actually did. I actually love that. Good for her. Yeah, that's good fortitude. Yeah, it's pretty impressive. Now dinner at Dara's on the way there. Missy still running through it. I don't know what to do about this whole thing. I hope Dara apologizes. Kimmy's still like, yeah, no, don't. You shouldn't just get involved. Yeah, everyone says it. Everybody wants her to not get involved. We at home obviously wanted to get involved. And at the dinner, you know, we're just doing our friendly hello's. Everyone's meeting everybody. Dara meets Margot for the first time. And Margot's impression of her is, oh, she's a madam. Because of how diplomatic she was. That's like a prerequisite for being a madam. Yeah, she's just immediately kissing her ass, talking about all the people they haven't come. And all the nice things that she's heard about her. It's like, you know what? I'm going to sniff right through this. This is bullshit. You're bullshit. Yeah, I love the jump to, oh, you're a madam. It's great. Instead of just like, oh, you realize that all of us have been talking about you and you're trying to set off on the right foot with the first time that we're meeting, which is, I was thinking, it's like, no, no, no, no, I'm going to take a step further. It's not that. It's that you're a madam. Yeah, you run a brawl. You do it night. You're not fooling anyone. Yeah. But she gives like a toast to her being Dara. And this might have been my favorite part of the episode, first two episodes, which is such a subtle thing. But she gives this speech and she's like, you know, we're all self-made women here and we support one another. Now, the irony in that sentence, given what she was saying about Micah, is very funny and very potent. But the better part is Kimmy going to a confessional, be like, what the fuck is she talking about? Like, I'm not an entrepreneur at all. I haven't done anything. And Mark is like, I'm saying, I didn't know such a self-made woman. Like, oh, good for me. Great. Two great one-offs right there. And I think that what it does for me, like when I see something like that, I know it's not like a serious moment. But when you see people deviating from somebody trying to play up in front of the camera, Dara in that moment is trying to develop her image of what it's going to be on the show. Yes. It's a strong woman that supports other women. I run a big business. I'm super important and I'm supportive. That's what she's trying to do with this beat. I think she's also trying to solidify herself in the group as that person. So she thinks that this show is going to circle around her, which is probably what she's used to and then she's been getting away for so long. But she doesn't realize the way that this show is structured. We've already met all these people. We're already in love with most of them. And then we met you and we already heard things about you. We're going to give you a fair shake, where you immediately start off on the wrong foot with us. And then I got the vibe from her. As soon as we sit down with this dinner, the she thinks she's going to be the central figure of the show. That's how deluded she is into thinking she's so important. She's like, oh, yeah. I'm so happy to have all of you here. Let me have a big speech moment. Little does she know they're undermining her at every turn, every time she's saying something, which was, it was honestly, it was needed at that point. No, it was and it made for a really good scene. And it also shows you what this cast is capable of. What they're willing to do and say. And that looks very bright for the future because of how many little clips you get here and there. They're literally talking at the table, making jokes as Darius trying to talk. Darius, friend jumps in. I don't know why. Mora. Mora, I don't know what the fuck you're talking. Mora? Mora, who cares? What are you? Why are you talking? It was so funny too. Because again, where we are right now is the friendship between Dara and Micah is just not great. And you wouldn't see and Micah coming to Dara saying, I had your back the whole time. Dara doesn't give a fuck. No, not at all. And here we have an opportunity where this random woman, who's friends with her, has her back and she's just like, slinks into the corner, looks around. Nobody's really going that hard on her. They're just discussing what just happened. I feel like she should be in the room for this. Why'd you guys wait for her to leave the room? That's bad taste, that's poor to shut up. Who are you? Missy, I love. She just gets so rattled with it so quickly. She's like, I don't know what to do. I just brought all of this up. She clearly didn't have a reaction to it. I'm looking over at Micah, who's just completely quiet. You guys all have my back thankfully. I got to figure this whole thing out. And then when she's confronted with that, she's like, who the fuck are you? That's great. What are we doing here? So good. And I'm glad that it played out the way it did because we got that side of Missy this early on. Yeah. Again, very bright for the future. Because in a moment, like obviously, we jumped the gun a little bit. But she tells the table what happened. She asked Dara at the table, which I love that you did in front of everybody. Dara, again, panic throttle. I just want to have a really nice dinner. Yeah. You can't, Dara. And so you address this awful things that you've said about your quote unquote best friend. Were they awful in what you said no, but apparently your relationship is 24 years old and you completely undermined it all of it with these comments. Yeah. So yeah, I was a pretty horrible thing to say. I'll address that. And other people at the table as Dara's trying to change the subject and turn everybody else away. They're sitting there having individual conversations about what's going on. Yeah. It's great. Mark's like, now say that. Like they're making jokes. It's so good. And then when you have Missy fed up, she leaves the table, trying to figure out what to do, comes back to the table. Fucking Moira pops up, trying to give her two cents. And that's all we needed to set Missy down this path that I hope she never leaves because it's new Missy. And she's like, time out. Fuck you, random lady in a pink dress. I don't know you. You're not part of this conversation. And now we're not waiting for her to come back. I just told you the whole fucking story. Uh huh. Yeah, no, it was absolutely perfect. And Missy conducted it perfectly too because she got so fed up that she had to ask her point plaque, which is the only way to get through to somebody like that. And she vehemently denies it. I did not say that. Roll the tape. Producer. Mike moment, five minutes ago. I did say all of it. I was quitting the show. I did say all of those things. I can't handle it. Shit. No, now you're calling me a liar. And then Missy's getting pissed off. Everybody else is looking around the table. Crackin' jokes, going back and forth. Like this is fucking insane. Mike, a quiet as hell. Silent. And then in the interim, at some point goes over to Darge. She's like, hey, can we just like, go walk away and like talk about something around? No, not right now. That was maybe some other time. Maybe another time we can go do all those things. But it's okay. I love you. Okay. No, we find out that she did actually say all of those things. And in the midst of all of this, a quit. Yep. You know what? I just don't think this is the right time for me. This TV show is not gonna work for me. I'm not gonna do it. What a fourth wall break at the end and then just straight up quitting. This is not the tamer quitting every season on OC. This is not any other housewife walking away from a party like I can't deal with this shit. This was just a straight up. Yeah, I'm gone. I'm not doing this. And by the way, this is not gonna be a bait and switch because somebody was on, watch what happens live the other night. I think it was Micah. And she said, yeah, I haven't really spoken to Dara since. So, oh. That's what we want to see if you're gonna quit and get the fuck off. It was just really funny because of this image she had been trying so desperately to give in her few scenes on this show. Maybe that she talks about herself, the way she wants other people to talk about her, the dismissiveness, the holier than now, knows up at Micah, who by the way, probably has way more money in class than you do to watch all of that. And then watch this facade, this insecure, mean little bully, just panic and go, I'm gonna say that this isn't for me, but in all actuality, I can't handle this. Yeah. Guys are exposing my insecurities and the things that I'm lying about. And whether that's being a madame or not, what they're doing is exposing your fake life. Yeah. I loved it. Yeah, it was perfect. But let's see what the people are saying out here. Yeah, cut, cut, cut, cut. Cut. The cut cut was fantastic. She yelled cut. It's fantastic. There were movies set too. No, that's unbelievable. First up here from Blackbeard 601, what a great reboot. The cast puts it all out there as anybody surprised that they are left. I'm surprised that it happened so quickly. I am. I think we would have gotten there regardless based on what we saw. But it would have been an episode seven going, why is she still on the show? Yeah, absolutely. From 153, have you seen Mark Francis go to a death metal gig? It's on YouTube and it's so endearing, I need to watch that. I'll watch anything with him. I will watch this as soon as we're done recording this. Mark Francis is perfect. Absolutely. I agree. I agree. Mark Francis, Martha, fuck, Kimmy, Lottie. I can, they're all so good. They are really good. From four Tune-it, is this the last that we see of Dara and do we think she's a madame? Now, I will say it's probably the last that we see here on Bravo, of course. Is it the last that we see of her and like tabloids or anything else? Maybe not. That's the weird thing that I was talking about at the beginning of the episode. The fact that she did two episodes and she was on here and people are talking about the fact that she left so like ridiculously, they're probably gonna dig a little deeper. We might see some things out there online about what she's doing, but there's also the chance that she just completely wraps everything up and we never see her again. Yeah, one of three things will happen. One, people are gonna dig and it's gonna come up in the next two weeks. Two, it will go away because she wasn't all long enough or three. And I hope it's this one because these are always fun. Yeah. In five years, some random person's gonna post a screenshot on Twitter and be like, remember Dara, here's a picture of her at her brothel. Anyone can call my god. Yeah, no. I really hope that one happens. From Ryan Stom and 83, who's your favorite? There is something about Martha, unique lover. Ryan Stom and finally on our side. Three with Ryan, finally. It's been so long and now- Hell must have frozen over or we're on the wrong side of history, finally. I like to think that the world is probably ending before I would say we're on the wrong side of history. Well, we just have to figure that one out. Rachel Nicholas, why are there so many shows on Bravo right now? They need to spread them out a bit. I kind of agree. I kind of agree too. I do think and see what I talked about this. When we get to like the summer seasons, so many people just really aren't watching. And they have so much money going into love island every summer that it just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to have those shows. But I agree, especially a show like this, like yeah, maybe it doesn't need to come out now. I'm still really enjoying it. Maybe it can come out in June, give us something to watch, but it is what it is. Yeah, and I want this show to do really well. And if you drop it in June, people aren't gonna watch it. Numbers aren't gonna be what they should be. Yeah. Given the first two episodes, I want this show on my TV for the next 10 years. Yeah. I'm okay with it. From the Jouelster, is Martha's house safe to live in with the mold and bird shit? Probably not, probably not. But that doesn't matter. Yeah, that doesn't really matter. And we'll end with this one from Makeup LAB. So what's the verdict? Is there a madam? Let's just say it once and for all. I don't know if she's a madam, but allegedly, allegedly leaning that way. Madam ask. Madam ask. Sure. Some capacity, yeah, or maybe at one point in her life, perhaps allegedly. Yeah. Yeah, we'll go with that. Yeah, I don't know, but we're not gonna find out. And I'm okay with that, honestly. Correct. She was the only bummer of this entire show. And she actually contributed. Like it wasn't like she brought the show down by any means. They gave us some really great talking points. It gave them a great storyline to kick the show off. Yeah. So I will forever be indebted to Dara for that. But yeah, I'm not gonna miss her at all. Yeah, I agree. We'll see where the show goes. I mean, we haven't had a hot start like this. Shit, Southern hospitality, maybe. Yeah, premiere. It was the only one I could think of where I was this excited afterward. Yeah, I agree with that. And we were right about that one. So yeah, don't you guys. Come on. Don't be those people. Don't be the season four Southern hospitality people. They're dumb. They drive people crazy. They're talking like they've been there since the conception of the show. Only we were. We were shouting the shit from the rooftops. That show had like 50,000 views the first season. We were 40,000 of them. But anyway, jump in on the show ASAP. And that's all I got. You got anything else? Nope, that's our show. Brab Bros are out of here. Here we go. Ta-ta. Oh, the Regency era. You might know it as the time when Bridger Shantig's place or the time when Jane Austen wrote her books. 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