Stagecoach and the Hilarious John Crist

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Juicy Scoop is the show to know she talks Hollywood tales. Her real life, Mr. Sigmund Serial Data and Serial System. You'll be addicted and addicted fast to the number one tabloid real life podcast. Listen in, listen up. Heather McDonald. Juicy Scoop. Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I have such a great interview for you guys today with the hilarious John Christ. He is so funny and we also get into some heartfelt moments. So I know you guys are going to love it. And first let me tell you, yeah, I went to stagecoach. I had such a blast. I went with my girlfriend Stacy. We met the first day of USC. So we had such a fun girls weekend and we went Friday and we went at the golden hour. I had worn my boot barn outfit to a party before took the photos that I needed. And then I switched out my shoes to tennis shoes. And it is a life changer for everyone. And I don't know how these girls did it like multiple days. I knew from the previous years. So in one of the photos I showed my tennis shoes because I told you guys I was going to go tennis shoes. But then we stumbled into a karaoke bar that I did not realize. S-Y-R-N is, I guess it's pronounced siren, but it is the name of Sydney Sweeney's lingerie brand. And it was her, her pop up her thing. So I go, oh my God. It would be kind of great to do karaoke and get this on video. I said, I'm sure the line is long. It wasn't. This is Friday. There was only like two people out of me. So yes, I did my classic Bonnie Raid, which for those of juicy scoopers that have been around forever, I even talk about it in my book. You'll never blow ball in this town again about what is the best karaoke song to sing. So I sang it and it was pretty fun. And then, you know, all, all of comedians really want to be singers. I mean, you know, Vaughn got brought up on stage and then I was like, I'm not going to be brought up on the actual stage code stage. I'm going to go and do my karaoke. But what happened is right before I got to go on, I told my friend, this is what sorority sisters do. I said, we're going to have to switch out the shoes. Give me your boots. So when I go up on stage and you film it, I have a full Western outfit on. And that's, she took my ugly tennis shoes and I took her boots and it was all good. And then we switched them up and she said, you know, even for that three minutes of me filming, you know, I was like, wow, Heather's sneakers are really a dream. So the next day we went to a fun party like at the Tommy Bahamas hotel right there in Palm Desert and had like barbecue, got this cute charm necklace. Look at, look at the Stetson hats and all the things. And then we went to the rodeo, which was really fun. And then I was like, okay, now we need to work the outfits around the tennis shoes again, which we did with jackets and the wind was starting. And it was the first time I ever was smart about something. I was like, Stacey, I'm telling you, I think the wind is getting it way worse and this just isn't fun. Let's go. Let's get out before everybody else. We then start the trek. She was wearing her tennis shoes too. Start the trek. And it was like, I've never experienced this kind of wind. I thought I was on the moon if someone has ever gone there, which we still don't know if they have. But anyway, I was on the moon and I was trekking through and we were like, oh, and I said, I don't even know. Like should we call the Uber's? No, let's just, she said, remember there were cabs. Let's we get a cab overcharged. Who cares? So I got home, jumped in the shower and then they said, we're evacuating the place. And then I was like, oh my God, my juicy scoops are going to be so worried about me that they're going to think that I didn't make it out in time. And I almost did a video just to say, you guys, I'm okay. And then I saw what was happening in DC and I was like, maybe I don't need to talk about, I'm all right, you guys. I didn't get to see the whole concert, but I am safe. So then I, then they said, come on back. Well, I don't know if you were probably half the people didn't come out. It was, but you know, you had to be safe. And then Sunday, I just didn't go. I watched a post Malone from my comfy couch. Anyway, it was really fun. It's a lot of walking, but it is a good time. So then over the weekend also, there was a summer house audio leak, which sounded like somebody just had that. And we heard a little bit of Sierra giving it to Amanda about her being a cheating, hoey friend with West. And everybody was like, did West do it? Did he leak it so that he could just get fired and have a big career as a podcaster? Like, what is it? And then today came out that, you know, it was somebody from production. No shit. Of course it's someone from production. I knew right away. I'm like, it's coming from inside the house and everyone's acting all angry. Oh my God. If you're a Bravo content creator and you repost this leaked audio that they found on Reddit, oh, they'll never work with you. No, no, this is what they wanted. Okay. It wasn't even that juicy. We're all going to, the people that are interested are going to watch the reunion no matter what. And like, I believe all those reality producers are all over Reddit because I think they, anyone can write anything they want. And then they'll write something about one of the people in the cast. And then that person will be like, I can't believe there's a rumor on Reddit about so-and-so's husband cheating. And then then now they've got something to work with on the show. That's my opinion. I think there's a ton of reality producers that are anonymous people on Reddit pages of their cast. Okay. That's my thing. All right, you guys, I'm very excited for you guys to enjoy this interview now. Let's go with John Christ. Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I'm so excited to have a new guest on Juicy Scoop, a hilarious comedian. I'm sure you're familiar with him. And if you're not, you're going to be in love because he is a hilarious delight. He's a Southern boy. He's a God fearing man. And he can make fun of it all. John Christ, welcome to Juicy Scoop. You finally did it. I know I've been six years. I've been DMing you. Man. Nothing, nothing raunchy. Just DMing you being like you're hilarious. Come on my show. I love your videos, your stand up, your take on life. I couldn't get out here. But I come out here a couple of times a year, but we can never really make it work. Yeah. And you have a bunch of shows this weekend out here, which is amazing. I loved the video that you did about how you got the nicknames of some of our cities here in Southern California. Is that correct? I have not. You haven't heard them. I haven't heard those exactly. I grew up in the valley and when I grew up in the valley, people were very snobby about the valley. Now they're not anymore because it's like everything's so expensive, but it used to be. The valley's better than it used to be? Yes. The valley's nice now. Yeah. Like it used to be like, ooh, like when I went to USC, ooh, you live in the valley. It's 10 degrees hotter there. Like how can you handle life? And I was like, I don't know. I'm like, I'm doing pretty good. I had a nice pool and two parents and like went to Catholic school. Like I feel like I'm killing the world, but is it as nice as Newport? Let me close my eyes and think if somebody said they're from the valley, I would think they were rich. Oh, okay. I feel like that, but that's not, yeah. It wasn't always like that. No, no, it was like the second, because Hollywood and Beverly Hills started and then the valley was where porn was. Before OnlyFans, and you actually had to go and be filmed and on a VHS tape and go and rent it at a blockbuster. They had like an office? You'd see porn stars at the coffee shop. They were kind of faint. Like it was sort of like, oh. That'd be better or worse. They work at the office. The Mercedes on the. I don't know. A lot of them would get out of porn to become realtors. And then when the market dropped, they went back to being in porn and they said porn was easier. Then holding an open house. Right. And sadly as a former realtor, as an emotional realtor, you get fucked over harder as a realtor than when you're actually getting paid to fuck. Oh, yeah. No, the realtor we have, we're looking for a house now and it is, she knows what she's doing. But it's probably the same as, Jerry Seinfeld said that with comedy. Yeah. If anybody on the street wants to, they will introduce you with the same title that we have. Right, right. Yes. Tonight. Right. Like if you're a doctor, you want to become, have doctor in front of your name, it's going to take you 12 years. True. If you want comedian, they will introduce you tonight as our next comedian. I never thought about that. You get the title day one. That is so true. That's right. But that's real estate. Yeah. Everybody can just take that. You're like, I'm a real estate agent and the people in Beverly Hills sell a billion dollars for the real estate and the guy in the valley. The only thing easier than becoming a comedian or a realtor is a podcaster. So everything I'm doing, everything I've done is like literally anyone could do. No barrier to entry. No, no. Hi. I did like, I did like what you said on last podcast about nobody cares about the plight of a comedian. Oh, thank you. I'm glad you agree with that. Yeah. Just accept that. Yeah. Unfortunately, yeah. Nobody cares. Because to them, it's still an easier job than roofing, you know, so shut up. And it is. It is. So it is. I wouldn't know how to do something. Yeah. Every comedian movie is just so sad. The comedian is struggling. Yes. His parents are estranged. His wife. That's why I didn't like that movie. Nope. I didn't even see it. I was like, why does the comedian always have to be like a bummer of a guy? Yes. He's always so downtrodden and like everything else has gone terrible. Right. And then he's like, I guess comedy. And people would say like, oh my God, you're a comedian. You're like so happy and normal. I'm like, yeah, I actually had parents that said you should become a comedian. You're really funny and they all, they all saw me. You and Chris Delia. Yeah. Yeah. Was that the, I think that it. Did he say, well he came in, his dad was in the business. Yes. That's why I know it's person to business. And also when you live here, it's not like, I grew up here. So it wasn't like this taboo thing to pursue the arts. It wasn't as horrible and depressing. There were as kids though, you knew like there were six year old kids that were like a lot of pallets don't get picked up. Good luck. Sugar. Yeah. Yeah. You know, you're going to. No, you need to do. You know, you go out on the street in Nashville and you say you're a comedian. You're a. Then you're special. God. Because everybody else is a singer. Because nobody's a comedian. Here everybody's like doing a job like this. Yes. Because it's like, oh, I'm in the arts. You're like, oh, okay. Right. I'm a, I work in, you're like, oh, but go and go into any other city in America and say you're a comedian. They're like, that's unbelievable. Yeah. That's true. Yeah. And then also as a woman, it was always just like guys were really like overly shocked by it, you know, like that I was one. I couldn't. But I was kind of, I was like, you know what? I, I came up, you know where I came up. Well, you probably don't know. No, I know your whole story. No, you know where I came up in comedy. You started doing chill, like open night. Oh, I did do that. But I would sign up. I came up at comedy works in Denver. Oh, that's the best. I always try to get on your shows and I never could. Because you know how they have all the comics there. I wouldn't. I was good back then. I wasn't good. You weren't good enough back then. No, but you were coming. You would come through and your shows will always be sold out. And I was like, I want to, I want to get on the Heather McDonald. We'd have to sign up like every Tuesday. We'd have to run down there and put our names on for them. Oh my God. This is like the best story ever for the comedians that were coming through the weekend. Oh, that makes me feel so special that I was like a hood. You had that one headshot for a long time. Not the red in the wife. Let me think. That was back. You didn't get new headshots every back like 10 years ago. Because I just don't care. Like I'm just like, someone, when this came up on 10 years, I was like, I don't want to rebrand because my parents had their same real estate, residential real estate, and they had their same photos for so long. And then my, my mom would be like, Oh, it's like, you know, Coca-Cola or the Smith Brothers or whatever. And I was like, well, as long as I still look like my photo that's on the podcast, I'm like, I'm good. I'll do another one. You ever seen somebody like on a, their headshot and then they walk out and you go, Oh, I went. Last show I did in Vegas. You look like your headshot was at the MGM Grand. And part of my fun was we stayed another day and we saw David Copperfield and we were in the second row and we were, we all grasped. We were like grabbing each other's hands. We're like, is this an impersonator? And why is there a coke can in his pants? The dick was enormous. It was right. It was like right there. Because they gave us the front row. You're like, I don't need to be. I thought about Chris Angel too. Oh, a magician is a magician. It's like, you can make anything disappear except your old face. Like Jesus. Well, somebody has to tell you, I think we should, we should do, we should do just a tour. We see everybody. We're in, we're in charge. Hey, you need new headshots. Yeah. Yeah. Because Brian Regan looks totally different. Have you seen him lately? No. He's like all different. And you go, this is the different. Yeah, that's important. Maybe I do need to get who wants to take. I also like to get everything for free. Who would like to take my headshot for free? But should we, don't you think the, okay, so I got a buddy on a Zempik. Oh, I love those. That he's lost. Okay. I'm not on it. I'm not on it right now, but I've dabbled. I've taken a shot here or there. But we should, we should, like I'm used to him being 250 pounds. Him 150 is different person. Is he less funny? Is he a funny person? I have to adjust who I'm looking at. He knew him big. It's, and it's happened so fast. Does that make sense? Yes. It happened so fast that it's like shocking. And so, and for a funny comedian who was heavy, that was their entire act. I always remember when I was starting to do standup and I wasn't famous or anything. There was a big heavy comedian and he'd come on stage because I always felt like I never had that good opening joke. You know how someone would go, I look like so and so and so and so had a baby and you'd be like, oh yeah, they did. And it could work for an hour, right? And then you're good for it. Yeah. And he'd come out and he was heavy and he'd go, and he would take the mic stand and he'd go, let me move this so you can see me better. And the whole place laughs. Oh, come on. And I was like, that's such a good one. I wish I was fat. But now if he got skinny, he wouldn't be able to say that joke anymore. Nate Barghatsi is a natural congressman. He's everywhere. He's hilarious. He's so good. Yeah. He, he tells a story about he was coming up in, in New York City and the comic had a ponytail. Yeah. And the whole act was about his ponytail, about like how girls would and how he had interacts and he couldn't get a, he was a ponytail. And then one day he cuts it. He goes, I don't need this, but it's not part of my act. I don't need his ponytail. And so he goes out, Nate tells a story better than me does 30 seconds, 45 seconds bombing. And he goes, so he used to have a ponytail and then he went back into his old act. That is so good. There should be a, you should, if you said people do jokes about being overweight and sometimes they're not overweight enough to be doing fat. Right. You know. Yeah. You have to keep it authentic to your life. And some bits, you know, can go for a while. And then other times you have to be like, maybe don't tell the birth story when your kid is 28. You know what I mean? Like maybe, maybe tell a different perspective. I think the comic, do you think a comic would not go on a Zimpik to keep his act? I think some people struggle with it. Really? Cause there was a guy on SNL, not SNL, a mad TV that was really funny, pre-Ozempic days, like 15 years. And he did lose weight. And I, I mean, he's probably still doing fine. So I don't want to be rude, but I don't think he, you know, I think it did affect his like getting jobs and stuff. Yeah. Because it made you special. And now you just look like everybody. And it was a real with you now. Yeah. Now you look like everybody else. It's good for your health, but, and I'm sure it's like fun, you know, to zip up your pants, but at the same time. But you're, if you're, it's, you know, it's, you know, this was fun, the standing ovation. Exactly. That's really fun too. And having all those fun jokes about, you know, not being able to fit in the tea cup. You know what I mean? That's a whole, oh my God, a heavy person can go to Disneyland or Lando's even better because it's humid and do a solid 45. It is relatable. Everybody gets. Now if I do go to Orlando, what am I going to say? It's not, I can. Not interested. And not as good. Yeah. Not as good. Don't you think all the other, all the other comics, like this, this podcast has become a behemoth is look at all the, all the other are all, I don't know how to ask this question appropriately. I feel like a lot of your peers are getting crushed out there with female comics. From that, like 10 years, like the era when we were like, there are none of them are doing anything. Oh, for, okay. Yeah. It is a little hard because I think sometimes that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. Because I think sometimes people didn't like jump on the social media. Maybe. And because I did and I joined, I got started podcast over 10 years ago. I was familiar. I was like on Twitter and Instagram when I was doing Chelsea lately. So it's like, I was doing all that kind of as a little bit of an older person. I was like, in, in doing it. I saw this one thing though, they said, if you could suddenly become 21 again today, like on TikTok, what would you do? And I wrote, I would start my career even earlier. Yeah. I would, I'm like, I like, when people say, what's your, what would you do if you, I'm like, when I was with the Wains brothers working on some movie, some of the nephews were like, you haven't heard of YouTube. I wish I would have gone home that day and created a YouTube channel. I wish I would have been doing the podcast in the YouTube while I was doing Chelsea lately. I don't know that they would have let me probably not, but because they would know what it was. Well they would get mad if we would do like a funny Twitter joke at our home like the night before. And then we go, because they'd be like, and I kind of got it. And they're like, this was a topic and now you've like put it out there. So you've got to kind of like, the Chelsea era was great. You've got to kind of keep that a little bit because you're working on the show, which is great. Cause now everybody does this their own thing. Who came out of there? You and Josh? Josh, I mean, as far as writers, Josh and I and Chris, we were all writers on the show and then, but, uh, and fortune and then, but also like people that were just regulars on it all the time were Joe Coy, Natasha Leggero. They were not writers, but they were regulars. So that was wild. How that made so many careers. It did because the way we structured the show, like I was there from day one, the way we structured the show gave the audience much more of a personal insight into the regulars because it wasn't just doing jokes that it wasn't even like an at midnight where you're just like doing like in, when we would come up with how to talk about it. And then we'd say to the other writers, like, you know, like I would start to say, well, with my kid, with Britney Spears, I'm like, I have two boys and da, da, da, da. And then people would know, Oh, Heather's the mom. Joe Coy has one son. Oh yeah. And like everybody had their personalities. Yeah. And then we promoted the day two, like your dates, but then also, yeah, we, people got to know you better. So then when you call on stage, they knew that you were the Southern son of a Baptist. You gotta have that angle. Like you kind of got your rights. So then you could, you weren't just telling, you know, pop culture jokes. Yeah. So I always thought that was really important to do. I always told the people, like if you can work in background about your life while you're telling the jokes on pop culture, that's going to give you a further way. Now you know what's, you know, it's taking the place of, you know, it's taking the place of what's his name. The show's getting canceled, the CBS, Colbert. Colbert know what's taking place of it. You know the answer to this. I don't. Comics unleashed. Oh, oh. Yes. It's taking that time slot. Oh, cool. Have you been on that? I have. And they, they asked me to. That guy's like the richest guy in Hollywood, is he? They asked me to do it and just, and the timing just didn't work out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. But maybe I'll do it now. I don't know, you know, you know, but I did it back in the day and I, and it was, it was good. Those were good clips to have when you didn't have clips, when you were like putting together a tape tape. Yeah. And I know all anyone is talking about is how many grams of protein are you getting in your diet? Protein, protein, protein. And as a meat eater, I want to have the best protein, the best cuts of meat for my family and I. And that's why I love ButcherBox. 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So you're one of eight, you're number three. One of eight, yep. And your dad actually was a pastor. Is he still a pastor? Well, you probably didn't get this deep in the research. I'm sorry, did he die? But he knows. Oh, sorry. Okay, sorry. Wow. He is saying he is now the mayor of our city. Oh. Littleburn, Georgia where we grew up. Happening, good for him. Yeah, dude. He's switched over. You know, you try to control people by fixing their hearts. Okay. Now it's with the rules. Okay. He actually said this to me. He goes, you're a comedian. He was a pastor and he's the mayor. He goes, we wake up and we look at the world. We don't like it. We don't like the way it's headed. We don't like it. And we try to, he said, at first I try to change it by changing people's hearts in religion. Then I try to change it by legislation. And he goes, as his son, he goes, you're kind of doing the same thing. You're just trying to change it with ideas. Oh, that's beautiful. I like that. You know, I love that. Is that too sincere for this podcast? No, I know. I love it. I love the sense of family and, and, you know, so your parents are still together. They're still together. Yeah. And one of the things I loved is, so I'm the youngest of five. And from the valley. From the valley. And so my, we're Catholic and my parents are very like, they were like, they could have been comedians. They could have been comedians, but they were in advertising and then real estate. And so they would just tell me out now that like my sister and I were mistakes. My dad was like, say your mom couldn't read a calendar. And then every time I came home from a business trip and she had made a steak at a martini, I was like, oh, fuck, you're pregnant again. And I was just like, and then they're like, but you're such a great surprise. And so then I was like, oh, okay. And so as the youngest of five, I was this bit, which I'll let you tell because it was so funny. But I remember I never got in trouble. And then one day my dad was like, knock it off or something. And my older brother started to do like an 80s slow clap. Like, finally, finally. Oh yeah. Because they had a completely different dad. Yeah. Like, and even though there was only 10 years between us, it was just like, by the time I came, I was, they would throw me in the, in the station wagon and we would go watch Rosemary's baby, Jaws. I was like four. They didn't care. No, no, no, no. I like that. I'd come to school and I'd be like, did you see that made for TV movie about the mistress and these kids would be like, who's letting you watch this? And I'm just like, I don't know. Like, nobody's watching me. Like, no one cares. I think of everybody in the comments of this bit is like older siblings get disciplined less than the younger. Is that everybody just said, discipline. Discipline. Right. But they parents are tired. That's what everybody said. Yeah. Everybody goes, they're just like the first one, you know how like, yeah, especially in LA is probably we're gonna. Yeah. New mattresses. We got to make sure the sheets are different because the toxins in the sheets because he heard about that in the bottle feeding versus the, we're gonna be like everybody in the south is big on like cloth diapers now. Oh, God, what a nightmare. Never. That sounds like, like, hey, we're doing it. And then every parent, you go, oh, you got that stroller. What did you know that if you got over, you got, I got to get a new stroll and but then by the, especially by kid number eight or five after three. Now, did you have one of those families not to compare you to the Duggards? Okay. But did you have one of those families where you were signed? No, they're not doing good. No, they're not. Love them. But I know, I know a couple of them there. Yeah. Yeah. They're not doing good. But were you like assigned to like raise a little one? Mm hmm. Which one was yours? Well, we would always say, so if Emma is my youngest, second to youngest sister, that's the one I'm the closest with. Okay. That we were like, I remember my brother, Elias, I was in, I was probably 12 and somebody came over and they were like, well, you shouldn't be babysitting. I'm like, well, I am. Yeah. So I don't know what he wanted me to say. I'm in charge. They're like, you're in charge. Because you're a boy or so young. I think the older ones were gone. Okay. And I was like, well, John's there. Yeah. But I knew, I don't know, I knew about the house and how they're like, like there was just no, it's not like it is now. I was babysitting at 12. I had people under me. I was like the pimp of the neighborhood. I was like, I can't work tonight, but I've got a girl. We got somebody to come over. I got a girl. Yeah. Yeah. Like I was so, I was 12. Yeah. And nobody, now, like if you have a babysitter now, the background checks. Oh my God. Yeah. All of it. This is a different time. Yeah. It's a different time. Yeah. And so when you, in this bit, the standup bit, you say you go home, it's now your younger sister. And there's, and I loved it. So you just, can you just tell the story? Yeah. She get, I mean, I remember, I remember she gets like, we couldn't, first of all, I come home because I, Lilbur and Georgia had a show in Atlanta. So I was like, I had to stay at my parents house. I come home. My sister is in the basement watching a movie with her boyfriend with the door locked. I'm just like, what is going on here? And she's like, my parents are like, John, leave her alone. I can leave her alone. We had to watch TV in the kitchen on a separate couch. If I had a girl over separate couches and blankets, no shot. Dude, my parents would turn up the air conditioning. So we couldn't, and we were freezing, but there are no blankets because they don't want to, you know, kid, a teenager is going to be under the blanket, no shot and Christian movies, no cussing. There's actually a technology that they've been sued, but it would go through movies and take out all the sex scenes. We had, I had a friend that I'd be like, can let's go to the movie. Cause like, again, my parents are working. I would be like, let's take the RTD, which was the bus down to the movie theaters, like nine. I'm not kidding. I believe you. I believe you. And then I'd be like, let's go see like Greece or whatever. And it was like, no, that's too dirty or, you know, like, or, you know, the, the tidings or the Catholic, whatever, there was like a Catholic review of movies of what could be okay and what not to be okay. And we did not, my family didn't follow that at all. Oh, they didn't. No. And we didn't do confession after, after the, like the first confession or we do it through school. And then I'd be like, mom, why aren't you going to confession? And she'd be like, well, I just think when you're perfect, why waste the priest's time? There's just, they've got so many people to see. And I was just like, yeah, I don't know that like we'd go to Mass every Sunday. We'd go to Mass every Sunday. We'd say grace. We would talk the Catholic talk, but like there were like, then my dad would be like, what are we, cafeteria Catholics, which mean you like handpick? Like maybe you go on birth control, but you still go to Mass, you know, I'm doing this part, but not that cafeteria Catholics. What that's called. Yeah. I'm picking just a few things. We're not doing that. Yeah. Yeah. Like it's okay. But Catholics can drink. We always drink. See, we can't drink. At all? I mean, blue Pentecostal, like in the South, it's just not, or like a Baptist, no. And the Catholics are always, Do you drink now? Well, I'm sober now. I went to rehab in like 2019, but I've been sober since. Oh, when did you start drinking? Ah, 30. It was like a popular, I didn't know what to quite do. Oh yeah? So what was that like? It was confusing. So you wouldn't, you really popped when like about 10 years ago? Yeah. I was no name, comedian, struggling. You wouldn't put me on your shows and then I pop and then Heather's like, oh, what's up? Come on. I'm just joking. I never picked it. I would always say, can I have an opener and a, and even back then I wouldn't look at the people's stuff. Now, Wendy, Now I do look, now I say, I need somebody. Can I have like four people? And now it's so easy. They'll send me their Instagram and then I'll be like, okay, this is my first is my second, third and fourth choice. Or, you know, just because, But in the past, I didn't do that. And I would get some doozies. And that would like, I've never had this one guy before show in Aspen. And he says, oh, act is like how he doesn't like screwing women over 40. I'm like, who do you think said my audience? Yeah. And it was just like, and he's like, I'm, you know, doing charity work. And I was like, I'm waiting on the wings going, I can't believe Heather. Yeah. You didn't check out this. So after that, I checked out everybody that like, I tried to find a, I tried to find a good match. He's not working anymore. No, but he's never turned out to be fated. No, obviously, because you wouldn't do something like that. Yeah. And then as he's Lee, as he's introducing me, which he's just met me 10 minutes before you, I don't say, he's like, this is a really good friend of mine. We've been friends for a long time. And I'm like, oh my God. Yeah. Yeah. Just dig the hole on stage. Yeah. Okay. So you said you, so when was kind of a moment where you felt like you like kind of popped in and you're like, I can't believe this is everything I dreamed of. And like, when was that? What was that moment? 2016. Okay. I remember I put out a video. It's called Christian girl Instagram where like Christian, like evangelical Christian, they would like take a photo. This is back in the early Instagram. Yeah. About they had their Bible open, a verse highlighted, maybe a cup of coffee and a cup of fruit there. And like, and it was so ornately organized that I go, you probably read the Bible for same thing with cat. You probably read the Bible for two minutes. Yeah. It took you 30 to organize this photo. I remember it was up before reels and before any like Instagram photo. There's not even carousels. It was just one photo. Yeah. And then the caption would be like mornings with the Lord or something. And I thought that was so silly that I made a video making fun of like satirizing or like, Hey, if you're going to do this, make sure you do this, make sure you highlight these verses, make sure you put these books in the background, make it look, use these filters, make it look good to get more likes. And everybody would kind of just blow up. You like one viral? Yeah. And were you doing a lot of like Christian church based funny, you know, relatable jokes and your act from the beginning or did you kind of fall into that? Oh, you always did. I was like, yeah. But I would like, but do you know any, do you know any like comedians that do churches? I mean, I've followed some and I do think it's really great when you can tap into that world and also be clean. I tell younger comedians too, like, listen, I am kind of dirty, but I didn't start out that way. I like, like, you know, start out clean because you'll work so much more if you can work quicker, quicker, do any churches anymore? I mean, not necessarily churches, but just being a little bit of a cleaner act can also really be good. Maybe can make 500 bucks to go to your country club and party for at the beginning at the beginning. Yeah. But I was kind of make, I always stayed in the club because I came up in Denver. So I was always staying in the club because I, I felt like the club comics were better. Yeah. Actually way better. Right. They were sharper and they were like, and I was like, well, I got to stay here. If I go over that route, it's over for me. Even though you're getting the offers and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I knew that was kind of like, like you could get a pigeon hold. Yeah. So I stayed in the club the whole time. I stayed in the clubs the whole time and now I just do, I don't do any churches anymore, but I'm still on the team. You mean you still believe? Yeah. Yeah. I'm still on the team, but do you go to church now? I go to church. Yeah. What kind of church do you go to? Not Catholic. I'll tell you that we have some strong opinions about you all. I'm just joking. Yeah. Yeah. Catholics are hot these days. Yeah. I mean, I've been watching that. Yeah. I've been watching that like the young, especially younger people going and I think it's all great. I just think anything that gets young people out of the house, whatever it is, providing it's not a dangerous culture, terrorism. I'm like, good, go meet some people. Well, the evangelical like mega church is, a lot of people say is a failed experiment. Oh, really? You know, but it's just too, it's too. Do you think there was just one too many docs exposing that it's not? Yeah. I think documentaries, I think Netflix docs in the last eight years has turned people against a lot of religions. Like honestly, it makes you kind of go, God, could I be a preacher? Like could I start my own church? Like who is this person and why, you know, and why should I be like going to them and listening to them every Sunday? Like I don't know. Yeah. Well, the cult is based, it's literally the only way it survives is based on a limited information. So in the eighties, nineties, you could move out to Salt Lake, have a kind of a commune comp. They had their own textbooks. They didn't have cell phones. So they've stayed there. So you could tell them whatever you wanted. Right. Now people go, no, we're not, the whole thing kind of falls apart. Yeah. The whole idea of a cult does kind of fall apart. It's like kids in like foreign countries. Now they see what we're all doing. Right. You can't really control if people have information. It's so true. The whole idea of a cult, unless you're cutting off the information, it wouldn't, it wouldn't, it's not going to work. And I also feel that like, I mean, okay, so in, with the mega churches, okay, like I was like, wow, like you can drink a coffee, like you could have a star, like drink a coffee during mass. And like in, in my Catholic church is always a wood bench. Yeah. Drinking anything in there. There's no cup holder. So I would like uncomfortable chair. And so then I like, you know, someone would have something or I'd go and I'm like, oh my God, I'm in like a movie seat. No, I go to like a Christian church. Someone invite me. Well, don't say that because Catholics are Christian. Right. I always say, I always say Christian service. I like, I like when I started juicy scoop, I was like, spread the word of juicy scoop as you would Jesus Christ to your Christian service. Amen. Right. When you're go to Catholic school, you have to do a certain amount of Christian out, Christian service hours. Yeah. And so that's just like, so every time I would ever do something. As an adult that I wasn't that thrilled about, I would be like, yeah, they're just compartmentalized. Those are Christian service hours to go to that shitty party. You got to do that thing. Yeah. Go do that thing and be like, be nice. And so I just kind of like keep a balance. But I remember going, wow, like this chair is really comfortable. It's really nice to have a cup of coffee. The music is better. This guy's pretty cute. I like his tight jeans. This is like kind of fun. It's got like more commercial. Yeah. And then I would have the Catholic guilt of like, no, Heather, you need to go to the boring mass where the guy's accent is so strong, you don't understand what he's saying. The acoustics are horrible. Can't hear. Can't hear. You don't know what's going on. You, then you need to feel guilty because you didn't listen. Yeah. But at least you got in there so that when you have that audition on Thursday, God will bless you. Because you were there. Because I was there. You got to leave Catholic church. You leave with some guilt. You leave with them. Totally. Yeah. I mean, I can give you a cookie. You feel good when you leave. But I think I went to Catholic church like a month ago because I had never been. Who took you? Because I, my buddy Matt Fried. Wait, wait, oh wait, I have that photo. That guy. Attending Catholic church for the first time. Okay. Tell me about that. What your experience is. Well, he's like a, like a, he's a, he has a big podcast. He's like a famous Catholic. I didn't even know there was this. Did he get to go to the Pope? He's doing a pod with him, I think. With the Pope? Yeah. He's like, I go with Jim, Catholic and to the Pope. No, he's not a comedian. He's not a comedian. Yeah. How annoyed I was when I saw the people they invited. I was like, hello. I didn't like that. I'm like, hello. Like I did 12 years of Catholic school, paid for Catholic school for all my kids. Jim was there because he's Catholic. Oh yeah. But I mean, he deserves to be there. But some of the other ones that were there were not even Catholic. And I was like, again, whatever. Just like the country club. Just like, yeah. They're overlooking Heather. They're overlooking me. Yeah. I've had the guilt since day one. Yeah. I've been promoting. They had some Jews in there. I would be. You guys are against each other. Exactly. I would, we're never against each other. No, Catholic Jewish dialogue was like a class I took because it was so similar and there was such a thing. But I was in writers, I was in writers' rooms. I'd done podcasts where like my face was challenged. Like somebody was like, how do you believe? What is wrong with you? And then I would say why. And then the podcast host would get so much hate for how he treated me that then I'd be like, hey, can I be on your show again? And he was like, hell no. It was too much. It was too much. No. And I'm like, I did nothing wrong. You were the one that was mean to me. You cornered me. Yeah. And then people. So tell me about what you thought when you went. Well, a Catholic church, first of all, the first thing I said was, there's no lobby. If you listen, you go in and you're in. Yeah, you're in. You open the door from the sidewalk. And you're in. I can smell it. I can smell it right now. I can smell the Catholic church. Yeah, you go in, there's a little lot. Great team, welcome center, kind of like the moms gossiping in the front lobby. Not Catholic church. They spent, they wasted no money. They go work every. And also, you know what? Catholics don't send the kids to a different, they're in. No, you go through the whole, you have to sit and hear the crying and you have to be pinched and you have to. Blew my mind. No, it's. We have, the kids go off to their own. Color and stuff. Yeah, yeah. We've got coloring books and they learn about Joan and the Whale and stuff like that. Yeah, not Catholics. But I think what has happened is why Catholicism is hot is because it went so far the other way that it's like, all right, let's. Like when you have a son, like you had to have taught him something. Yeah, yeah. And you go, well, they don't cuss. Right. Why? And I also just cuss like three times a day. No, one when you're little. Yes, yes. Or when other people are on, don't cuss it. I have an infant. Yes, yes. Don't cuss. Well, why? Yeah. Or don't steal. Why? It has to. Come from something. You have to get, every parent has to give something. Yes. Some semblance of why the world is, why it would be. I didn't really realize like how lucky I was to be raised with something until I got to college and my friend goes, and we're all just talking about, there was certain girls in my sorority that had gone to other all girl Catholic high schools and my one friend goes, have you ever noticed that anyone you meet that went to an all girl Catholic high school, nobody regrets it. Nobody says I wish I didn't go. Wow. And I thought, wow, that's interesting. And then that's one front of mine later on goes, I wish I knew the stories. Really? She goes, I don't know the stories you're talking about because she wasn't raised as anything. And then I was like, oh, wow. I am better than people. Like, no, but I just thought, you know, I never thought it made sense when someone said, we're not going to raise her kid as anything, as anything because they should make their own choice. Well, they're not going to seek it out. You could teach it to them and then you could, you should be understanding if it's not their thing or if they take a break. They still learn the basics of doing on to others. And that's all I cared about. Cause I was like, you know, I'm not super. Well, there's a second part of that, doing to others. You just said the beginning. Yeah. Well, I think everybody, I think in, I would say that when it becomes like a, when people have religious trauma or something is because they weren't allowed to ask questions. Yes. So you go, hey, we're going to go to Catholic church. Why? Well, we believe that a God created the universe. We do believe that not lying, not murder. We don't believe in that. Yeah. These are the general worldview of what we believe in life. Yes. And where people go astray is that you have to go, don't ask questions. Yeah. This is what we're doing. And you go, why are they wearing those outfits? And then, or why do we have to do the confetti? Yeah. No one ever explained it. Right. And that's how people get off track, I think. Totally. And now there's, yeah. And when, you know, in entering hall, it becoming a bigger star and doing Hollywood stuff. Yeah. Now you, you know, had this success because you were one of the few commercial comedians that also could talk with knowledge about this very relatable thing of being raised in the church. Yeah. Did you ever, did it ever get weird in that Hollywood is, I mean, I was in writer's rooms where they would say, how could you send your kids to a Catholic school? Are they getting molested today? And joke with me. And recently I talked to a writer that used to be on Chelsea with me and I was like, oh, how are your kids? And he told me, now he married a girl who was raised Catholic. And I go, oh, where's your son going to go to school? And he goes, oh, we're hoping to send him to Loyola, which is a really great school here in this whole place. And I go, oh, really? And you don't feel bad that you like tormented me for eight years? Well, well, well. Yeah. And then he's like, and he paused and he was like, no, and kind of laughed. And I was like, all right. That's all you need. That's all you need. Yeah. Yeah. And it's really hard to be a believer in Hollywood and not be, and especially with comedy, which is so, there's so many comedians that are cynical about it and like, they just don't understand how you can have faith, you know? Or something. Yeah. Of some other, like, I remember this, I was like, I'm not going to tell him your name. I'm not going to tell the name because you probably know him. But I was like kind of like me tooed by like a male comedian. He said you hit on him? No. He me tooed me. Oh, okay. Okay. Does that make sense? Oh, saying that you were. He was very famous. Okay. And I was young comic. And he, and I go, in essence, kind of like, I want to be successful. I want to be famous. I want to be popular. But not at the extent of my. So he was, he was hitting on you. Yes. Romantically hitting on you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Oh, okay. Sorry. That was confusing. No, I understand what you mean. Okay. Okay. And kind of laying it out as like you got it. You understood. At first you didn't. And then you're like, oh, shit. Yeah. And like, you know, paying for things and coming to my room. And I was a young comic and I was so hungry. And adorable, aren't you? Well, thank you. It's still good looking, but I can imagine. But just know, but not, but you go, well, I'm not doing that. Well, you're like, why don't you want to be a comedian? But I go, yeah, but my parent, they, I was raised with something. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I go, I'm not doing that. When there was type of things that make sense. Because as a woman, it happened to me too. And I remember thinking, but I, I have, my parents live in Woodland Hills. I'm not going to be homeless if I don't do this thing. I can go to their house. They're going to still support me. They're going to, you know, I can work in real estate. I'm not, I didn't come off a bus with nobody in Hollywood. I actually have a whole support system. It took religion out of it. Just like parents that were cared. Yeah. And I'm not embarrassed to go home. I'm not embarrassed to say it's taken me this many years and I still haven't made it to all of like I wasn't because I was just, no, I know that I get being entertaining. And if I'm even, if I'm not on a sitcom and even if I'm not being like, I'm good at what I do, it just has to take time. Do you ever do anything like, like in auditions, like sexually that you said you wouldn't do or no? No, but I did have, I did have this, this one, I met this guy at a party and he was an agent at a major agency. And he got my number and I of course needed an agent, you know, and I had this, I had this VHS tape and I, with like all my little bits and I did this one woman show of like all my characters from the groundings and everything. And so he's like, yeah, come over and I bring the tape. Where to come over where? To the agent. To the Hollywood, like I go up, you know, the secretary brings me in. I'm sitting there and I'm like, you know, so like, you know, I need an agent and like, here's my, here's all my funny characters and everything. And he's like, come sit over here and it was a couch and he wasn't an old guy. So it wasn't like completely creeped. But then he, you know, he's like making moves on me and stuff and. Crazy. And I was just like, okay, then I leave. But I still think. If you, yeah, yeah, I know. And then he like calls me one night like for like a booty call and I'm like, can I just get, cause I of course dropped him off six tapes because I'm thinking he's got to give it to everybody. He wants me to come back and get one of the new tapes. Yeah, I'm the next Lisa Kudrow like, come on, you know, like get me on a sick call. And so then I'm like, I really need those tapes back because each tape costs like $10, you know, and I come back to the office. I give you the tapes back. You know, you try. So when you told the guy like, no. Yeah. Was it, did he then just drop you like a hot potato and was sort of embarrassed of the rejection or. No, I just said, and I just said, I just not, I'm not going to come to your room because we have a tour. Yeah. Like on the way, the huge bring me on tour. So you're the opener or feature. Yeah. But, but like. Looking back. Huge opportunity to open to open for Chelsea. And that was very, very good for me. It also made sense since I was on the show as well, but that is huge for the stage time to get in front of all those people. And before and looking back now, you're like, I was not skilled enough. Right. To be, I shouldn't have been and then you look back on it. Now you go, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. I thought this is on merit. They're like, no, dude. No, you look like someone we could turn. Yeah. You look. You look vulnerable. It's not funny. It's not funny. I know. But it is. But you go. And we still, I still went on the road for a while and need, and I do credit him with, that's the thing that's the, it's the, it's tricky part about this podcast because some of these people are very, very brilliant and talented would do anything for you. And they also have the darkest demons. So all the people that we, on the pot, you go, what do we make of them? And you want to put them here or here? Yeah. Like do we like this guy now? Yeah. Or now this guy's out or Taylor, Frankie, Paul or whoever we're talking about. You're like, no, X. And you're like, well, that, if I, you know, they could, the people can be both. That's what's tricky is this guy helped my career and it would literally do anything for me, but also had like the darkest is sincerely would do anything for me. Right. And also, I think it's different like with the Taylor, Frankie, Paul, I don't know. I brought her up. She's recently in the news. I think it's kind of different when it's like a reality star because you are entertaining to watch, but you are not an entertainer. You are not, you're not writing music. You're not singing. You're not, you know, you're not a comedian. You're not a writer. You're just a, you got to stay in the news. But I still also think that she can absolutely come back because I think people forgive. I think they're less forgiving. Kanye West came back. Yeah. I think they're less forgiving of women. 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What would the people do it? May. Thought you'd be into it, so. What, me? No, that's deeply offensive. Harry, you're wearing socks and sandals. In public. Come on. I travel in style. You don't. It's a new low. They're the mullet of footwear. And what's wrong with mullets? Sharing moments you'll never live down. On The Train, you can. I love this one when you talk to the audience about you got baptized or you're Catholic. The baptism thing is so interesting too because one thing I was going to say about Christians is that I like... I can't wait for this generalization. I like to get invited to parties. I like to feel wanted. And I liked how in college and everything, I must have been someone that they felt that they could get turned. Because I did like talking about Jesus and stuff. You were generally interested in that. Yeah, but then, and then they'd be like, are you saved? And I was like, yes. Like I've always believed. So how am I not? And then I was like, oh, you know, like one time this cute guy was an essay. He kept inviting me to go to this thing and I just thought, oh, he's so cute and he likes me. And then I realized, oh, is the Bible study, you know, and it was a Bible study. Oh, she's going to want to come to the Bible study. And so the baptism thing, you know, we all get baptized when you're young. Yeah. And then infant baptism. Yeah. So that you were that guy's service hours. Yeah. You were like, wait, I'm the service. It's like, and there's the service hours. I'm going to dinner with Heather for the service. My son said when he was at ASU, these guys called and was like, hey, do you want to play whatever, flag football or something? Arizona State. Yeah. I probably know who this. Yeah. So then he was like, yeah, like he was excited that people were like, the bait and switch. Yeah. And then eventually it was like, hey, we're all going to go to the Bible study after. Why don't you come? And he was like, no, he's like, I went through Catholic school. Like I don't need to now go to a Bible study while I'm in college. Also now that, oh, I thought we were buds. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, it's up there with like joining an MLM, like the lady being like, hey girl. Or the guy bringing you the, he bring me the tapes. Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah. I said, I've always said this about, about this whole, like the, like everything in the podcast, everything in this podcast, it's a comes down to gold, Gloria girls, the three motivations for any kind of anything. Oh, interesting. It's gold, Gloria girls, meaning money, women or power. Yeah. Like, why did they, you know, every, you do break down everything and you go, it's, it's one of those three. Interesting. It'll always be one of those three at the end of the day. For a man, I guess, cause I'm not doing it. Yeah. Well, yeah. I guess I, yeah. Yeah. But it's always, why are they at the very end? Oh, where they want to get the, be tagged on Instagram so they can, oh, so it's a, it's always one of those three, which has been around since the dawn of time. Yeah, definitely. And it's even in this business when, you know, I've been on the receiving end of thinking that this person was my friend, that I brought on the road and helped and did all things with and tagged them a million times. And then they were, they were becoming resentful behind my back. It wasn't enough. Crazy. It wasn't enough. Crazy. And I was like, oh my God, like, why wouldn't you just tell me it wasn't enough or, you know, or, you know, why did you, why did you have to do this deceptive mean thing that like, fucked me up? Because like, I'm very fortunate that I've been married for 25 years and we've never had a cheating on each other. But when it happened with friends, it's really, you're like, oh my God, like the two of you were like going around the court, like what? Against me. Yeah. Like I was just like, this is what it must feel like when someone like has the hairs in the back of their necks and they're suspicious of their man or their girlfriend and then they find it later and they're like, I wasn't crazy. Oh, I was in rehab in 2019 for alcohol and they, there's, it was all men in there. And they said that, you know, everybody's at different stages of their marriage and he said the women, the every, you know, you're in there for four weeks and then your wife's going to come and you have like kind of like a heart to heart and he said, you know, all the women were so relieved because they were like, okay, thank God, I thought I was going crazy. Like, you know, like they would tell stories like, I can't come up in the guest room and I find a condom in the guest room and he was like, the husband is like, the landscaper must have come in and you're like, okay, you don't, you go, okay. Yeah. And then you finally, you finally realized this guy is cheating or is it and then you go, yeah, thank God. Yeah. Because I thought I was going insane. Right. And you're finally like, when you finally learn. Yeah. Oh, it's very, it's going to be a disaster to kind of work through it. But at least they're like, shoot, at least I'm glad. Yeah, the gaslighting of just like, yeah, like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's very helpful, they said. It was all very helpful. So in your church, do people get baptized like where they wear the outfits and go to pool and stuff? That's a wild way to ask that question. Yeah. Well, they just wear your regular clothes. Oh, you just wear it hopefully dark though. You don't wear something white, but we got baptisms at our church coming up. No, I thought they were supposed to wear like white flowy. Oh, that's in like a different denomination where they have they put on a robe and then they full immersion into the water. Okay. Yeah, we do. We do like very like you do it in a horse trough at a barn or in a river or somebody's pool. But I mean, essentially people could be baptized like 10 times. Yeah, it's not very. Yeah, baptizing a million different times in church or say I need to be re baptized. Baptism is only one. That's it. You get your one. Yeah. And you're good to go. It's like a punch card of all the, you know, well, I'm just saying, you get your check off of that. Yeah, yeah. You have to be baptized. Yeah, you have to be baptized. And then confirmation is kind of like. That's like getting saved. No. So it goes, it goes baptism, then confession, then confirmation, which is sort of you can decide it. Like it just basically say I confirm now that I'm a young teenager that I want. We're old enough. Yeah. Then it's, then it's like marriage. Baptism was non consensual. Yeah. Then it's like, yeah. And then Val, like if you're going to become like a priest or a nun or whatever, and then that's the things. And then last rights. Oh, my, my, that's when you die. Right. And that's only if you have the option to like call the priest. My friend is getting married to a Catholic guy and she converted at like 25. Cool. So how does that work? She got to go through a class or something. Yeah, she goes through. If I wanted to become Catholic today, what would I do? You go through like a class. It'd probably be like Tuesday and Wednesday nights or whatever, like during the week. I think they can do it. I mean, who knows now if there's like an online element, but like definitely the church. There's an online degree. Yeah. I think it's really beautiful when like an adult decides to do that. Like I think it's so cool. My husband had some familiarity with Catholicism because he had like a grandmother who was, but he wasn't raised and eating good at school. And then not until we were getting married. Yeah, but once we were getting married, when they said they are father, I couldn't believe he knew it. I was like, how do you know this? Like how do you just like came back to him from like the grandma. But no, just one of you has to be Catholic and the other one has to say, if we have kids, we will raise them Catholic. So you don't have to convert if you don't want to. You just have to say. I'm on the team. Yes. So my sister married a Jewish man, Goldstein, and he just said the kids can be raised Catholic and they were. And that's that. Yeah, so he didn't convert. He never converted. He could have, but he never did. And it was fine. I mean, I do think it's nice if you're both are like into it, but as long as someone's not like making you not go or something, you know what I mean? Yeah. And they're not like fighting about the, you know, so. Well, this is marriage. I'm, I'm, I'm getting married in October. How'd you meet your fiance on Instagram? Oh, I mean, she slid in or you slid in? I made a, I made a, she's a. Could have been me. I was been sliding in your DMs for years. 2021. Yeah. I made a, I made a spoof video about the news. Okay. Making fun of the news about how news anchors like in the snow, they're like, why am I out here? You could see it snowing. Why do I need to be, it was a fake back in 20, I don't know, six, 2020 or something like that. Yeah. And she does that for a living. She's a news anchor. She works for NBC and somebody sent her my video. They're like, look at this guy making fun of news anchors. Somebody sent me a video of her doing it sincerely. And I thought she was cute and I slid into her DMs. See, I feel that's very like the universe working in God and your favorite. Like that's just kind of. And I was in rehab. This was wild about my whole story that I was in like burned my life to the ground. I was in rehab and I, there was no, they would like let us watch TV on like the weekends for like a three hours. And so that would be, we were watching the local news because there was no Netflix or there was nothing. Yeah. And we were watching that. We watched the local news and I saw a news anchor like doing that. And I was like, when I get out of rehab, I'm going to make a joke about that. If you do, if you don't believe in God, I believe, I mean, I love all that stuff. I know. And as I get older, I feel like it's, I don't know if it's just me and the universe or my, whatever, but it happens so much more now. Like I'll literally think of somebody that I hadn't talked to in a while and I'll get a text from them in an hour, like within an hour. And I'm just like, what is that? There's just so many things like, and like my parents are both past. So there'll be little things like, I'll tell a story about my dad with a bunch of girlfriends and we're about to go to the spa. And then they're like, Heather, you know, it's your turn to go to the spa. Here's the key to your, to your locker and my dad's sports number was 34 and it's 34. Yeah. Like just, just like, just like, like just all those kind of like signs and I'm like, just think it's amazing. And then throughout life of like knowing like whether you work like manifestation or whatever, even if you're not like really working it though, you'll look back and you're like, I thought of that or I saw that or I said one day that'll be me and now it's me. And like, I love all that. I think it's so powerful. Yeah. I do. And you look at the, it's a dark and you look at the universe and you go, my word. Yeah. And it's, you just go, I'm not sure. Can't they wear weird hats and the thing with the chanting? I'm not sure about all that. Yeah. But it's got to be something. I think that's the start of it. Or my, or my, I'd love one pass away or have a, or a child being born. Yeah. Do you think you ever miss down on opportunities in the business because they are prejudiced about the fact that you're without the fact that you are someone of faith? Um, I, I, it's, I, I don't know if this is a, I just think it's a crutch to people to blame stuff. It's like a lot of times people are like, Oh, it's because I'm Democrat that the Republican, I go, it's not good enough. Yeah. You know, like, Oh, it's because I'm Christian that I go, it's not that good also. Oh, it's because I'm a lesbian or it's because I'm black. I don't, they want to make money. Right. They don't care about if someone's right. Anything. And I always say, there's so many entities. Can you be, um, black ball for one particular show? Cause someone hates you and is, is the person who's the talent booker? Yes. Sure. Yes. But there's other shows you could get on to. So it's like, yes, sometimes that'll happen and you'll never know why. And it's not with the victim. Yeah. Like you'll never know why. Yeah. It's a nice, there's a comic in, in our scene. That is one is a female. She's like, it's because I'm female. I go, the GM of the club is a female. They are, and it's or it's because I'm black. I go, I assure you it is not. Right. And I mean, it's never been a better time to not be a white straight male. And in my day, like, yes, there would be 10 people on the bill, like me, and it would be eight straight guys, one black guy, one woman. And it would unless we want it, if we wanted more than one woman, we would put our own show together. And I feel like it all, but it all did work out. And it was, but it was also like, you know, there was TV shows, you know, so you always were like about trying to get us that come right. There wasn't podcasts and Instagram and reels. And I realized like the executives that were choosing would be a certain time. be a certain type of guy. And then they would really, they'd see everybody perform and they would gravitate towards the guy that lived their childhood. So they'd be like, that's the funniest guy because comedy is subjective and you relate to who you relate to. So my stuff about being Catholic and sorority girl and valley girl, there was no executives that were like, oh my God, I grew up at Woodland Hills and went to USC and I know exactly where this chick is. Now you see now there's- There's such a variety and there's such a way to find your own audience without the gatekeeping of only having television stations. So that's what I think is so great about today. If you go to Zainis, like I live right next to Zainis in Nashville, there's two rooms now, there's probably five shows a day, there's probably 20 plus shows a week. And it's like, when I was coming up, you would just go to the comedy club. You wouldn't look, there was no YouTube. There was no, you wouldn't look, it had to be Jerry Seinfeld, Jay Leno for everyone. It had to be for everyone. Now there's like black, Jewish, gay comic. And if you don't get it, you're like, I don't know this guy's podcast, I have no idea what this is. And the lines wrapped around the block twice. Yeah, great. For that. Yeah, because they found- There's like a comic that's from Wisconsin and he just does Wisconsin. Great. And everybody that used to live in Wisconsin are like, we love this guy. That's what I think is so great because there was exactly what I'm saying. It was like- There's no excuse now. Yeah, like, you know, and it's, so I think that's really great. Going back because you brought it up and that you went through this hard time, I, you know, I wasn't gonna bring it up because you, but since you brought it up, I wanna say, I really think it's great how you dealt with that and you took that chunk of time. I think if more people that fall into a hard moment, just put their phone down, maybe don't perform for six months. And just take that time. I don't think enough people take the time that's necessary. And then when you come back, you can come back. You can come back and be stronger than ever. But I think so many times people are like, well, I, you know, and that must have been like shocking to have to turn stuff down and cancel your tour and put your book on hold and all of that. Oh, you did do some research. But I do think, well, I remember when it was happening too. And I remember thinking that you were handling it right. And I think in this day and age, like, that's a lesson to learn. Like it doesn't mean it's over. It just means like take a breath. I mean, you know, and just like get good, you know? Or yourself. Yeah, if, well, first of all, the only reason we could probably talk about this is because you did go around my publicist that you did DM me directly. Like if you wanna talk to them, they would have like, anything, listen, anything you want. It's so funny, dude. If you want something cut out, this is not live either. I like to talk about it. They don't want me to talk about it. I like to talk about it all the time. I think it's part of my story. It's awesome. We, it was 2019 and I had a Netflix special coming out in that fall. And I was like on the Tonight Show and I had a book deal. And I was like performing in churches, but I was also like getting drunk. Like, and like doing all kind of behavior that was not, you can't do that. It's like, it's kind of like, if you remove the part of the religion that is tough is the shame involved in it. But if it's kind of like, well, these are the rules. You can't wear jeans on Friday. I wore jeans on Friday and I got fired. Oh, from doing the church kick? Yeah, but they were like, you can't cut. You can't. There's a kind of a unspoken rule that if you're performing in church that you probably are behaving as a Christian. Right, got it. And I wasn't. Oh, okay. There was whispers on Twitter and that stuff kind of came out. But it was also like every, all of my comedian buddies were like, they would read that article about me. They're like, this sounds like a regular Tuesday. So when I read it, you know, and it was just that like you're flirting with women that might be married or something and they were flirting with you. I mean, in the scheme. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what everybody said. In the thing from Woody Allen to Louis C.K. Who was the other? Aziz. Aziz who just kind of had what I would refer to as bad bedside manner. Yeah. Act like you're a little more into her when you're calling the Uber. Just act a little more into her. She's gonna get her feelings hurt by that. But like, yeah. And then it was like you. I was pretty down, pretty far down on the list. You, yeah. But that's what was so honestly like noble about it. Like that you were like, no, this was wrong and I am this person. That is why it's wrong and that's why I'm gonna go make myself right. And you proactively ended this stuff for yourself. Yeah, yeah. Which is like amazing. I would probably say I'd look back on that. So it was a lot of, it was 2019, which is a very in terms of, remember people were like just executives were like, I slept with a girl in college, I'm quitting. People were like proactively quitting their jobs. Remember that? It was so scary. It was so in like the Harvey Wein, it was so scary. Like 17 to like 21 was like, yeah. Yeah, then it was a lot of like, it was so, with the religion aspect of it, it like adds a whole another level of like, I don't know, I guess I was so scared. If you look back on it, maybe I should have been like, yeah, I'm not perfect and I could have just gone touring. But again, I got sober because of that. Yeah, so it was like everything falls in the way it's supposed to, which is also like believing in faith. And I hate to say that and I'm getting married in October. Like I thought the way I was going would have no shot to be in a healthy relationship or marriage. I hate to say that cancellation was, 100%. Does that make sense? No, I mean, it was really. It was kind of good, it saved my life. It did save my life. Yeah, absolutely. And I hate to say that because I don't want people to be calling people out publicly. I don't think that's the way forward. Well, I remember reading your thing and I was like, wow, this is like, it's not like you actually were a pastor of a church with a wife and three kids and banishing people that, it was just that you were part of that world. And I thought, wow, that shows that he actually does walk the walk because he like wants to do better. That's wild to hear that from you because I didn't. I got one in crack. No, I didn't. Yeah, I didn't think that it's just wild to hear. I mean, I was, yeah, it was a, it was a very. I'm like, sorry, I'm not a normal community and podcaster. I actually like talk about shit like this. So it's probably like, no, what you were expecting today, but. It was so, like a lot of people like you or like reached out to me. I was getting crushed on the internet, obviously on Twitter, but there was so many people that were like, that's probably how you heard of me. No, I had knew about you before and I, like cause I'd seen your stuff and I thought it was really funny and I loved like the pastor and the jet, the jet, the pastor that has a jet, all that kind of stuff. So like, I thought it was really funny and then I just was like reading it and I kept trying to find like the bad part. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was kind of reading for some key words. Yeah, I was like, what is going to happen? And then I was like, oh my God, like, and so then to see then you like come back and find you and you're doing your funny stuff again. And I just thought, this is what it's supposed to be. Like this is what it's supposed to be. Your life shouldn't be, an entertainment should be this, providing, you're not violating women, children, men, and you know, burning people, but like things that I'm just like, wow, like that was so just important to see. And when you think about your life now and how you found the love of your life and every, I just think it's like such a beautiful story because it's true. It's like, it's very much, I believe in like everything happens for a reason and I believe in life's rejection is God's protection and sometimes you don't realize it. And you spend three years laying in bed going, I regret this, I regret this, I regret this. And then all of a sudden you're like, well, on the small level, if I didn't do that, I wouldn't have had this hilarious bit. If I didn't do this, I wouldn't have ended up here. I wouldn't have met, and then you're like, oh my God, I wouldn't, I mean, even for me with this podcast, I had career things that I regretted, like for a long time. And then one day I woke up and I'm like, the show wouldn't be here. If I hadn't fucked up over here, and then missed a bunch of opportunities because of this fucked up, and I could only work on this. And now thank God I have this, and I have no envy to be over here. That's what I said at the beginning. And if you didn't have this pot, like imagine going into those like audition rooms with like, Yeah. And you can say whatever you want and have whatever conversations you want, Oh, thank God, like I can, anybody can go back and if they don't know the article, that you can go back and look at it. I got no shame about it. It doesn't hold any kind of shame for me. And I'm like, it's just wild. It's truly wild, because if people don't believe in God or like that there is some kind of plan for you. I may have remember being so mad at God, like how journal that, well, we had was like journals and it was just right. This is a horrible plan. But then you come kind of come through it. What's truly wild is it was fall of 2019. So I had a music manager. He was not a comedian manager. I was about to release the Netflix special and then go on a stadium tour, not a stadium tour, sorry, an arena tour. Oh my God. No material. Cause like I'd working for 10 years to for my first Netflix special and he didn't know that you got to kind of go. You can't just do the exact Netflix special that everybody just saw. Yeah, because in music you do, you do the album and then you go tour it. And then I was like, oh my God, what a panic. And then it got canceled and then COVID happened. So everything got canceled. Right. And then perfect. Yeah, too. I come out and now I have like, I have a new show that we're working on that we have been more successful by far than we ever would. That arena tour could have been the end. Right, because you could have bombed or disappointed or gone better. I would have bombed. And I had no material. Yeah. So you go, yeah, even if you're like an atheist or you go, hey, that's fine. I'm not going to try to press it on you, but there's some things that happen in life that are too like, what? Yeah. That is just, yeah. Amazing. That is too much to, I mean, when you're in treatment, I never, I was so, everybody was so sad. That's like the best comedy came from. I mean, I met my fiance for the first time. It was so sad like your team, you mean, and your family? No, no, the, everybody just wanted me to get help, the people in there. Because everybody burned their lives to the ground. Right. And then one guy goes, my buddy Warren, we were all in there together. He had blown his life up. We'd all blown our lives up. And he, you know, I was starting to kind of feel better. Start to get a little like, oh, maybe I can, I don't know about it, I ever do comedy again, but I'll be able to go to the golf course. And I was like, am I getting sued? Do I have any money? And they were like, yeah, it's not an ideal situation, but you're going to be fine. And I started to kind of have some pep in my step, you know? And he puts his arm around me one day. We're on a walk, we're on a hike. And he goes, hey, it looks like you're doing a lot better here and you make a lot of progress. I just want to let you know, don't take suicide off the table just yet. And you know, like, we would die, we were so, like, humor was so, that's the most morbid thing I've ever heard, but we've died. Like it was so, the comedy was so fresh. Yes. And so painful. The world was so painful that it was like comedy. I fell in love with comedy. Yes. All over again and all the things that happened in the world, by the way, since then. Yes. You're like. And you have to be in a mindset to like be creative. You can still kind of chug along, but then when you're like in a great mental state, because it's like, you have to go on stage, whether, you know, something horrible just happened or you've got a text or something like that. You got to go on, you got to be like, hello, how you doing? What's up? Yeah. And then get in the moment and still enjoy talking to the people and telling their stories and all that. You can't just like blow it off because you need a mental health day. It's like not, you can't do it. And I'm sure people message you all the time just because of how big this podcast is. We're like, hey, I've been going through a tough time in my life and your pod is, it provides me an escape. But I feel like I'm part of this community or I feel like you are like doing us and you can hear directly from those people. I mean, I love it. And I still have that like, you know, guilt where like on occasion there was like a mistake where like I had some work for me. They put up the wrong podcast. Like they put Tuesday's podcast again on Thursday. Oh yeah. And of course it goes up at like 1 a.m. You know, or midnight on the East coast. So I wake up on the West coast to like all these messages of just people like, hi, you know, and I literally thought about the people that mentally really depend on waking up on their commute, whatever. And it wasn't what they want. And I was just like, oh my gosh. Like I'm so sorry. I'm not, because I've been so consistent that they like depend on it so much. And it's like because of, they're so great, you know. And it's not, by the way, no one's saying that to the lady that's in the Febreze commercial or whatever, whatever anyone else is doing. Not that other people's work doesn't matter, but like if you have, if I believe truly, if you do have that ability, every time people are sad, they go to art. They don't go, they go to art. They go to music, they go to podcasts, they go to comedy, they go to something to, if you truly had that ability, I believe to give that gift to other people. Like who's your favorite? Like Chris Martin from Coldplay, you're like, gosh dude, what if he never did it? What if he never, who are you to, I believe God gives people these talents and who are you to not share it? I wasn't pursuing it at first. I thought I'll be like a business woman. Then I was like, well, I mean, I just was like, I knew how hard it was to make it in acting, growing up here and stuff. But I knew I had this like comedy gift that like I could imitate and do impressions. And I just remember I kind of came to the conclusion like if I don't pursue this gift that not everybody has, like I always tell people, find the thing that you're good at that like not everybody else can do. There's a lot of things I cannot do that I have friends that are very good at and I'm like, please pursue interior design. Please pursue like you're cooking. I'm so good at it. You're so good at it. Yeah, like you're so not me, you know? And so I'm like, I was like, it is like a, after you to God, if you don't use the gift that you know was blessed upon you that not everybody can do. And like it could be amazing. And the other thing, which I've told the story on this show to so many times, but I'm just gonna say quickly, when I was like 10, I was watching like a Colin show and it was someone called in and Eddie Murphy was a guest. And this woman said, I just, if I knew, if I ever had a chance to talk to you, I have to tell you this, you know, so many years ago, my son died. Like it was like a young child and it was the worst day of my life. And I said, I will never laugh again. And that night I turned on SNL and you were gumby and I laughed again. And I remember at 10 going, that's what I wanna do. That's what I wanna do. I'm like, if I could do, if I could make someone laugh on their hardest day and be an escape, I just wanna be an escape for an hour, hour and a half, whatever it is. And I'm like, I think when your intentions are pure like that, then the success will come. Some will be making a hundred million dollars and some will just be very happy in their house, but they still get to be creative. But if you do it for the right reasons, you know. And it does, if you are like, look at everything, whoever put this together, is I believe doing God's work. That's Starbucks. I mean, these people are evil obviously. No, but I mean, I like an exactly a young coffee. He wasn't like the person who grew these beans all the way in wherever they come from. That guy wakes up with the same intention that we do. That care, he does it like, I hope I make money, I hope I, but I was born to figure out how to the best way to plant these beans and to grow them and to, and he sees everybody here commercially enjoying what the God gave him the ability to do that. I think that's everything of that camera. I think that's the road that you drove on over here. The guy was like, I'm obsessed with this mixture of cement and asphalt that I could put together so if people can drive on these roads, Christianity aside, I feel like more people listening to this podcast can get about the business of doing the reason why God put them on this planet. Well, before we end, I wanna say I love- We're gonna ask everybody to get saved now. I feel like that's too much. I don't care, the people- That was too much, it was too much. The other thing that's happened in the last few years for me positively is that I was way more conscious about saying the wrong thing and being caught saying the wrong thing and all that. And I do feel like, no, I'm like, fuck it. You know what I mean? Go listen to someone else then. Like, I'm sorry, this is me. You may not like every episode. You may not like every guest. I'm gonna be me, you choosing to unsubscribe. I'm not gonna lose my home. Like I'm not, it's not gonna change my lifestyle. My dad always used to say that too. If I lose this client, it's not gonna change my lifestyle. I don't do this gig. It's okay. So like, you know, at this point, I do think thank God the pendulum's swinging where people are a little bit able to breathe. But not if you're on the networks. Right, yeah. So if you got a reoccurring on a network, sitcom, and you put out a tweet, they will write you out of that show. Right, because the morality clause of the contracts and things like that. They can say that. Actually, I know a person that it has happened to this year. They were cast at a show? They're in a show and an article came out about them that the network did not like. And they wrote them out of the show. And it was just politically incorrect? Yes. Not hateful. No, it just was not on the side that they were. Got it. And they go, well, but now, like you look at Rogan, you look at what's the guy that, I'm sure you talked about it, was he was locking the doors from the inside and he was hooking up with all the girls at the morning show. Oh, Matt Lauer. Yeah. Yeah. You're done. Yeah. Because you're with CBS. Right. And now he never had his own audience. Yeah. Like Rogan has his own. Right. So you can't. Right. It's amazing. It's the greatest. It truly, and all the complaints that we all in the 80s and 90s and early 2000s, you're like, well, you, we made our own show. Yeah. So I want to talk about this show. I love this. It's filmed like, like the office or parks and rec. And tell me a little bit how you thought of it and how you executed it and everything. Well, it's called Springfield First. So it's basically, my father-in-law has passed down the church to me. So I'm this young, you know, trendy kind of pastor, which, and it's always, if you have a church of 5,000 people, there are very human scenarios that are going on. Drama. Yeah. It has to be. My dad was a pastor and I've worked at churches. So I know how it goes. I know all this are like, this guy's nuts in the church, but he tithes a lot of money. So let's- And that means he gives a lot of money. Yeah, that means he gives a lot of money. So let's hear him out. Right, right. Or there's a lot of human things going on at a church. Yeah. It's Catholic church too, that you go- But the thing about the Catholic church, like I said, like if I didn't go, like they're not calling me up and being like, where are you? They're not knocking on the door. That's the thing where I'm like, I wish the Catholics would take some marketing classes from the other people. There needs to be a middle between the evangelicals and the Catholics. Catholics don't care if you're there. No, they don't care. You're not special. That could be one peer-forced- You're not special. Yeah. You know, it's like, you know, whatever. Evangelical, everybody's too special. And if you do a lot, you still can't reserve a seat on Christmas Eve. You could give $100,000. You could be singing in the choir. That's why people like Catholicism now. And if you can't find a parking spot, you're screwed. Doesn't matter. You're standing in the back and your heels in the cold. Gosh. You can't buy a seat. And in this evangelical scenario, like that one of the is, we have a great team. Like every evangelical church would have a great team, meaning you walk in, there's a, hey, how you doing? Good to see you. And so we did like a review of the headshots of like, it's Easter, we gotta get the hottest. Greeters. And everybody in the DMs, by the way, is like, this is my church. Like this happens. I mean, this is also sorority life of like, yeah, it's like putting the cutest girls in front to do the sexy dance, you know? And like, but think about that conversation. Yes. You're like, okay. But it's God too. Well, how much does she weigh? Or like, well, she's a little bit hotter. She get more likes on her Instagram. Let's put her up for, it's like. We would be sitting back from the union. And my mom would be like, my mom who is a good woman, Michelle. What happened to the O'Malley girl? I'm like, you know, will they set her off to the Midwest? And I mean, talk about the freshman 15. I think it's a freshman 15. I thought you could barely walk, but I'm like, mom, we are in church. Like you literally just got the body of Christ. I'm like, you are so, but we would still go to church every Sunday. And she would be like literally judging people's outfits. And I'm like, well, okay. So when you thought, now I'm guessing in your career, as you're rising up, many people, network people came to you saying, you should have a sitcom. And this is what it should be. Was this ever one of the ideas you had back before you decided to do it yourself? It's a thousand people. I've pitched this to a thousand people. And how far did it go? They shut it down every time. Did you ever get to the point where you wrote the pilot, but not acted out? Yeah, we wrote and filmed the pilot. At which network? No, we pitched it to everybody. ESPN, not ESPN, Netflix, yes, Amazon Prime, all of them. But it never got to the point. And so then what made you go, actually I'm at a point where I'd like to finance it myself and film it myself and how does that work? It's really not, I mean, just between us, it's not in between us, I guess, but it's just a, we work. Oh, you went to a we work. That's what that office is. That's the set. Yeah. Yeah, okay. It's an office. I mean, the outside of the church is AI. Right, right. So that's like, it's a, and we have a camera, we have all the stuff, we have the actors. And how long are each of the things? Couple minutes. Okay. Man's could be two, could be five, just a simple scenario. And where, I know it's on your Instagram, but is it also on YouTube? We can watch it all at once? Yeah, but yeah, no. It's not, they just release daily, or release twice a week. Yeah, it's the Springfield first. And then did you finance it all yourself or you got investors? I just financed it myself. Because- And has anyone now come and said, everybody, everybody. And I go, I've tried to pitch this deal, like for years, I wish the same thing with you. But people are ahead of their time sometimes. Sometimes you're just ahead of your time. Same with you. Yeah. That you go, God, I'm so glad they didn't, they turned it down. Yeah. Cause now like we did a, we had a joke in the, somebody getting towed from the, okay. Oh, I loved that. That was such a- They're going to the, No Kings. No Kings were out. And I go, are they, which side of the No Kings were they on? And about to go, people are getting towed from the church parking lot. And, but I go, I don't care if you go into a Chris Tomlin, it's like a big Christian singer. I don't care if you go into a Chris Tomlin concert or a clan rally. You can't park in our church parking lot. But look, that'll be cut. The network could have cut that. And anything we're talking about here, the network goes, hey, we can't. So you go, all right, well then- Yeah, I actually, in watching it, I thought, ooh, that's kind of even edgy that he's saying this. But I thought that was so true. Like because I'm watching it, and it was really funny because it was like, we're not really sure if they're for the No Kings or they're going to protest the No Kings. It's all like- But it was like, it was so confusing, but like so funny. And then you're like, just tell them. It takes like a very, all the most touchy subjects, but doesn't take a side. Yeah. Like the next episode is somebody comes, you know, like what a Bible study is. Like they have a group. There's like, the church has like a hundred of them. If you join the church, you can choose which Bible study we're going to do, the book of Romans. We're a empty nesters Bible study, college Bible study. So somebody comes and they say, they want to have a black Bible study. And you go, okay, does, like we can't allow that, obviously. The white people are going to be upset. They're like, we don't have a white Bible study. We're like, we got a NASCAR pickle ball Bible study. We're like, all right, we can't do it. And then I just, it's like very, I go, well, they can't, what do they want to call it? They go, black Bible study. I go, can we switch it to like the Bible study cookout? Or it's like insane. Like, but it doesn't say, it doesn't take a side, which is what's brilliant about it, but there's nobody in our ear to like tell us. It was so funny. I was talking about this like scandal, this cheating scandal on like a reality show. And under the video, they said, well, you're missing the point about what Sierra said in the AA community. And I go, AA, I'm like, is she alcoholics anonymous? And they're like, no, it's African-American. Now we know that Heather's so clueless. And I was like, well, I just see her as a beautiful girl. I go, I don't think he was dating her or not dating her because of the color of the skin. I think she was hot and it didn't work out. I was like, what? I'm like, I only know AA as AA, sorry. Like, I'm like, and then they're like, yeah, the haters are like, we got her. Like there's like one person in base, but like just trying to see you slip up and you're like, I don't fucking care anymore. Or like, you can't like, I have no boss for you to like, you know, if a guy's like sending like inappropriate things, they can find his boss and then like send it to him and then he gets fired. Like, well, we don't, that's what's weird about being canceled also too. Like, you go, well, he already, we already kind of tried to get him and he's here. Or he's like, I don't know, what do you want us to do? I mean, that's the other thing is once you go through that too, it's like, you know, you've already, you know, done this once to me and if it's show, and if the Lord chose it to me again, I will know how to react even better. So go ahead and try. It's not scary. I mean, it used to be so like when somebody first said something critical about you, it was so terrifying. Oh yeah. Like especially publicly. Yeah. They were like, Heather McDonald and you go, oh my, and now I'm like, I'm not gonna waste my time defending myself. Like I know who I am and the people that listen and then with it go to my shop, like if I lose someone or whatever. And you know. It's such a beautiful time and in Hollywood, but in like you can go find, if you are obsessed with rock climbing in South Dakota, there's a, there's content for you. I love it. There's an Instagram feed. There's probably a podcast that you get. You don't have to watch what everyone else has watched. There's a, between me and you in the pod, there's 10,000 tonight shows. Right. Totally. And you can go watch the one you want. The one that, cause people don't want the view. Well, they already all have one view, but I'm saying at one time there used to be, let's have five people with different points of view. Actually, no. Like they're all being canceled. I just want to hear, I just want to hear like someone that I jive with. And I might disagree with them, but I still know like deep down, I like their personality and I like that. I think that they're a good person and whatever. And you don't have to, I want to hear what Heather McDonald has to say about the thing that happened over the weekend. Right. Exactly. Well, this has been so fun. And I have your dates here. You have this huge tour. Oh God, I did love the P.F. Changs. Oh yeah, right? You went there? Is they have that in the valley? Go to his intro. Oh yeah. And I remember, I remember he does this really funny thing about P.F. Changs and it was the fancier Chinese thing. And there were cocktails. I remember the kids were little and we were not, we didn't have the iPads when my kids were little. So we would just not really bring them anywhere. And we would just, you know. The kids are the iPads. Yeah. We were like, you know, we're not going to put them in a place where they would misbehave. So one day I decided, I looked cute. I came from an audition or something. And I was like, can we go to P.F. Changs? I think the boys can handle it, you know. And my little one, my little one was like, whatever, two and a half. And I thought he could handle it. Well, remember those big booths and whatever? He managed to climb over the booth, steal someone's like fortune cookie and run out past this. And I was like, yeah, my husband's like, really was it worth it to go to P.F. Changs? And I'm like, now we got to wait like another two years. We're not ready yet. We might be white trash. Yeah. I thought. Too nice of a place. Too nice. P.F. Changs was the suburbs of America was, changed the game. Well, what I saw this the horse, like God's so funny. But here are your dates, you're everywhere. Oh, dang. And in, right now this weekend you're out here and all, and then coming in May, you're in Texas, North Carolina. Oh, we going everywhere. Florida. Where are your viewers at in LA? They're everywhere. They're everywhere. I mean, we're in the main. They're all these places. My best city, states, whatever, are LA, San Diego, New York, Chicago, Florida, Texas. Beautiful. Those are my, Philly, places like that, Washington, D.C., all that. And then Nashville too. I mean, obviously you're in the South, which is amazing. We popped around pretty good bit. So if you are not following you, I know that you, everyone should, because it's such funny content. You're such a delight. Congrats on the engagement. Listen, maybe God, it was God's plan for me to not be on your shows. So that we could have this. So we could finally do the podcast. That is killer moment. And you're welcome to come on ours anytime you come to Nashville. Come back to your zanies. Such a delight. Well, I know I'm working on putting my fall and 27 together, and I know we're definitely gonna do a Nashville show, for sure. Nashville is popular. Yeah, and I've performed there before. It's been a couple years, which is good too, than the few years people were real thirsty for it. And it's, you know, there's nothing cute in the Nashville. Yeah, true story. You just have some white cowboy boots. You'll fit right in. Oh, I already have white cow. He was like, I will be bringing them. Yeah, cause I'm going to Lakita this weekend. I have a house there, and you know, for Coachella and stagecoach, I was like, I think I need to put the boots back in the house. Oh yeah, you got to. Oh, you're going to Coachella? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you got to. Well, I don't know if I'm gonna go. I'm hoping to go some parties. And then, I mean, it's a pretty young vibe. So I kind of like to just enjoy and then go to like a party here and there. And then maybe. You're not going to. Yeah, I'm not going for the three days, like my 19 year old niece, you know. Staying at 10. Yeah, no, I have a house. Oh yeah, no, we're not doing that. Yeah. Thank you so much, John. Total delight. Thank you. Absolutely. Your website should get the ticket. What's the best tickets? So they don't get screwed over. Oh yeah, they always win. And they go directly to you. Tickets are $600. I go, no, they're not. You have to go to what is your website? Johnchristcomedy.com. And that's C-R-I-S-T. Yeah, like Christ, but with no H. Exactly. So easy. And it's J-O-N. J-O-H-N. Oh, you are J-O-H-N. There's an H in, but not in there. It's not an H in the Christ. There's an H in the first, not the last. So John is J-O-H-N. Yeah. And then the H has gone in Christ. Yeah, there you go. And the Instagram, it's John B. John B. Christ. Christ. You know my middle name? Christ. My middle name is Barack. No way. Yeah. He's a character in the Bible. He's the name of the Bible. Oh, interesting. Yeah, my parents are very Republican. That's crazy. They're like you named after I go, wow, I'm 40, I'm 42. I couldn't be named after Barack. That's amazing. So interesting. Thank you. Honored to be here. Everybody go to heathermcdalland.net for all my stuff on my Patreon. Love you, bye.