Nightcap Hour 2: Allen Iverson CALLS OUT NBA Stars + Myles Garrett SKIPS Browns OFFSEASON PROGRAM + Jags Make Travis Hunter FULL TIME DB

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Uncle and Ocho, like I thoroughly enjoyed what I what I was doing and I thoroughly enjoyed the game and I never wanted to cheat the game. But I think we do have to take into consideration the way the game is being played today. Meaning it's a lot faster. The tempo is more upbeat, more up, more, more, more pace. And you know, back when AI and T-Magnum was playing, the game wasn't played this fast, man. You know what I mean? Yeah, those dudes average 30 plus a night. But hell, they was the only one on their team who was doing that. They wouldn't, you wouldn't put up about 85, 90 points, you know, 95 points a night. It's just totally different, man. These guys play at such a healthy, scale to pace. And, you know, it's starting to hurt our stars as we can see a lot of us. Look, look, man, can't nobody even make the 65 game threshold to even be you know, in the conversation for any of these awards. You know what I mean? So it says a lot. I think the pace of the game has really, really has been upgraded to the point where it's taking a load on a lot of these cats. So, Joe, what do you think? You think the answer is obviously fixing the issue is taking some of the games out because the pace is a little bit more upbeat now? No, the cover. No, no, yeah. No, because you know, you play less games, you get less money, Ocho. Yeah, I mean, yeah. You give it up some of your money? No, but I'm just saying, how do you fix the problem? How do you fix the issue when you when you start your super stars? Are you going to have to train a lot harder? If you're asking me, meaning like in the off season, you're going to have to be you're going to you can't take no month, two months off, bro. You kind of got to stay consistent, you know, whether it's just standing shape, running, things of that sort, because that's all it is, bro. It's just it's the running part that there's really killing cats playing at this ultra high level. You know what I mean? Especially when we get in the postseason, you know, you can't take a playoff. You know, I know you we sit here almost every other night, man. I'll talk about, you know, playing the game of basketball is three and a half, four miles a game, bro. Can you imagine running four miles every other night? Every night? Yeah, up and down. Yeah. You definitely have to condition your body. You have to condition your body to withstand that kind of. And that's what Ocho and I was talking about is that we played a physical game. They were hitting. We were doing all those things. They didn't ask us to go from zero to 100 just on Sundays. We had to crank it up during the week. And I don't know if they crank it up like what we did. And I'm not saying the guys are not tough with that. It's a different game now. We understand that. But maybe maybe it's because everything get covered. The NFL is covered so much different than it was when I played and when you played Ocho and even when the beginning, when I first got to the league. But I don't remember guys getting injured like they get now. I don't remember it. And I'm not saying that it didn't. So I don't don't don't beat me up too bad. I just don't remember. Did the guy have ACLs? Yes. Did I have Achilles, but not these non-contact injuries, not the injuries that we have that we see now. Look, look, yeah. I mean, I'm definitely not to the star. That's what I'm saying. It's happening to the stars, fellas. So that's it lets you know that obviously they're playing a substantial amount of minutes. It's obviously wearing tearing on their bodies to where they're breaking down. Yeah. I mean, Uncle Joe, you know, you know, my whole thing is obviously for one, it's hard for me to even have, you know, input on conversation like this, being that I didn't have any injuries. But I always say, I know I play around with nutrition, but for getting nutrition, you know, for this point, but I think people or players reverse what sports you what sports you play. You have to learn to build a callus in the body. You have to body has to get used to, you know, ramping up to a certain amount to a certain degree that you do on Sundays, which is why when I did practice, I always practiced full speed as if it was a game. Yeah. You know, there was no relaxing. There was no, you know, you know, taking a playoff with health. The funny part, I used to get cursed out on and walk through because I sometimes I would do walk through full speed. Yeah. I mean, I wasn't doing it to be funny. I was doing it just so to continue to make sure my body stays activated and always at a high rate of speed at all times. And I for some reason, I think it's those small things that I did that that one of the reasons why I didn't I didn't get hurt. And obviously I played the same sport. Uncle did Joe, a barbaric sport. I played very reckless, Joe, you know, cross the middle, you know, diving and hitting people, even though I lost every time I tried to hit some. I lost every single one, Joe, but I still never got hurt. And I'm at the talking everybody trying to knock my head off. Everybody trying to kill me, Joe, but I still never got hurt. You know, I mean, they call it walkthrough, but I was a brisk dog. It wasn't a walk. And it's like, hey, pick it up. I say, you said it's a walkthrough dog. That's just entitled. Ain't no walking. Right. Right. And you know, and I said, was nobody walked but the male man. That's why he don't make what you make. Right. And it gave that joke. He doesn't walk no more. And you know, you see the news. I don't know about you. But here in Georgia, where they got some new male trucks in the month of June and July, them boys in AC. Yeah. Hey, you see, they sit real low, right, Joe? They sit real low with the male truck is made different. Look, almost futuristic now. OK, so he ain't nothing like that. They got him out of here. I ain't seen the male. Yeah, they got to be here too, Joe. Yeah, because of old male trucks that had this line and had the one had the one seat in there and the guy had the male right there. He he pulled up there to my all your head. You go. But he knew everybody. I mean, I don't know. You know, everybody. He done sorted the mail before he went out there. He know the route that you go go. And the first box I stop off and put the mail right here. But yeah, man, the male, the jokers, they got on short sense. They had to have a sweat all in their uniform. They having that down. OK, I'll tell you. And they they living good. Why they be they be clean now. But look, and the thing is practice. See, I enjoy practice. Practice was really the opportunity, oh, Joe and Joe, for me to really work on because this guy that he sees me every day in practice, he knows all the little nuances of my route. He know that little little at the top. He know the little head, the head nod to the top or the three steps to like, no, and the thing is, I give credit. Ronnie Bradford, Derek Dodge, Tony Veland, they would always give me great feedback. Yes. They like, they like sharp. You got on your toes. I knew you were breaking it because I would have. I said, bro, how you how you knew that route? He said, man, I saw you get on your toes at the top of it. So I just took a I took I know you break it in or out. So I just took the I took the thing on for myself to jump under. OK, so it kept me. OK, make sure I stay out of my toes. And I would, you know, be people to have it cut up. And so I look at it like, damn, I gave it away. I gave it away. But I'm saying to myself, he don't know this. The guy that's in the game don't know this. But even even then, even though he don't know it, I'm trying to cut out because I don't want to give away no tendencies, because we're a tendency. Look, we study tendencies. We're going to get TV copy. That's why they try to get the cadence of the quarterback. We try to get that. We try to get how you stagger your stance and jump off the ball. We try to get that whether you're dropping, whether you're coming, whether you're doing a T or E T, whatever the case may be. We're looking at all that. That's how that's how the game has evolved. That's how the great player, they know, oh, we got a bird over here. Which means he about to fly. He about to pull. Yeah, he said like, hey, because and I had a thing was like because I didn't want grass to get on my thing. Because, you know, I had those all tanked to find gloves. And I was like, if it was if it was a pass, I'm down like here. If it's a run, I'm like this, oh, you don't think he know him. What you know? Don't worry about it. So I had to add to sometimes you have to self scout yourself. But I agree with I agree with a. But I tell you what, Joe, just think if that 65 games wasn't in place, how many more games would they have missed? Let's just say for the sake of argument, the 65 game isn't the cutoff. A lot of guys came back just to make the 65. Right. Right. You're right. So we have other guys like Wimby. Wimby going to get that 20 minutes in the last three games. He ain't been the mist that defensive player of the year. He's not been the mist of the all NBA because now that puts him in line. Yeah, Max. Right. Yeah. You can take a miss normal game because now he's in line for a super max. And man is going to come back next year and do everything he can to make all the NBA because if he makes it now, he's in line for a super max. And guess what? In 2025, in 2027, 82 million. Per which we're in shape again. He just changed his sign for years to 90 last summer. This year. This year, he has the effect now. Hey, that's crazy, too. When I think about it, Joe and I'm talking about the play, I'm talking about the top players, you know, the Cades and the Wimby's and some of the players that you know that deserves super max based on their value and what they bring to the team skill set and what they're able to do. And the fact that well, if they miss this amount of games, that means we can't reward you for what your true value is. That's that's in a sense that's messed up. That's messed up. The fact that they even agreed to that when, listen, entries is a part of sports. Interest is a part of anything, any sport you play. And the fact that now they're kind of punishing players with you miss this many games or you don't play this many games. You know, we're not going to reward you with what your true value is because your ass always hurt. Yeah. Well, and guys, we're just sitting out and see here's the thing. How do you that's their body? You don't know they could be hurt. They could be telling me absolute truth. But, oh, Joe, when I got a game on a Saturday night and it's supposed to be a big game or I got a game on a Sunday and guys sitting down in the street clothes and they got the NBA said, no, they don't worry about it. Yeah, we're going to we're going to fix this. Yeah. The NBA PA signed off on it. Joe, they couldn't have done they couldn't have done anything. This has to be this is collective. You're right. You're right. You're right. Players like see the player signed off on it. And then it's like, oh, I got by remorse. This is really a this is really this really hurt me. And. It's hurting the game, bro. It is. I mean, I don't think I don't think I've ever seen a year to where we've had this many of our stars out. Yeah. Or, you know, Miss, Miss, the significant amount of time. I don't think I've ever seen him, man. I'm telling you, I think this is probably historic this year. Seriously. Yeah. And the guys are getting bigger, bigger, stronger, faster. So they're going to have to get they're going to have to get themselves in better condition. Yeah, they do. They do. Hey, Joe, you been in the gym yet? Come on, man. Come on, stay in the gym, baby. What's up? I'm talking about, like, you know, getting shots, working on the ladder. You see some footage when I go tomorrow. No, hey, hey, Joe, hey, I got this. I got to show these shoes I got just for you, Joe. And I got them literally just to play you to make sure. Yeah. Hey, Joe, you a hold on, hold on. I don't want to leave and okay. Okay. Let me let me know. Let me make a call and tell them to bring my shoes. Hold on. Hey, hey, look, I'm gonna tell his a can't read the hero. Hey, Joe, I promise you one thing, Joe. I promise you one thing. I promise you one thing. The way you think and you talk like you finna drag me on my mom. I rest in the don't don't don't worry your mom in this. Don't don't. Don't do that. I'm there. I'm there. Tell you, Joe, I'm telling you how it's gonna be, Joe. I know you wanted the great and Joe. I just studied you. Oh, Joe, I, I hold on. I made a DVD. I made a DVD in there, right? I made a DVD in there. I have all all your all your all your all your clips, right? Your best move. So I've been watching your tendencies. What the move you like to do. Hey, one, two, and come back to the left and pull up. I Joe, I've been watching it, Joe. I've been watching. No, you laugh at him. Serious. Tell me I'm like, I dribble twice to the right, come back, cross over with the left and pull up right away. I'm raised, dude, man. OK, for real, for real, for real, for real, for real. Joe, I got a I got the whole breakdown, Joe. I'm ready. You ready for a matter of fact? And let me go get the shoes. Hold on, hold on, because she's sleeping. Hey, hey, Joe, did you watch LeBron tonight? Did you see how he came out playing with him? Man, did you see how he came out tonight? Joe, that's what we've been looking for. Man, they'll get it. How you get it? Look, the man. What he got 26, eight and 11. Twenty six, 11, 11 for 17. On level of 17, three or five. That's what I'm talking about. But that's what I'm saying. If he gone just a certain self early on, then rest of them dudes will catch up, man. The game will be easy for them to. You know what I mean? Like you necessarily got to just come out and be magic. Johnson right off dump, the way you just facilitate the whole first quarter, man. Damn, all that. I need you to get to it. Yeah, I mean, he like you try to break Scottie Scalva's sister record, try to get 31. Hey, you see, hey, hold on. We need we need 35. Hold on, you see, Brunner in there with 10 points, four for seven from the field. You see, Brunner, I think, hey, look, I don't know about nobody else. Chat. Yeah, y'all let me know what y'all think. But for me, when I watched the Lakers play, I love seeing Brunner out there with LeBron for whatever reason. You know, I love seeing them run, picking roll together. I love to see Brun get a sis out, Brunner, Brunner get it. Like because I feel like this is his. It's so historic that it's happening in real time. And a lot of people can't even appreciate it. But I can't even imagine being in the NBA, me and my son on the same team, bro. That just sounds crazy. What's this you got? And LeBron don't look at him as a son, because LeBron, he gave LeBron that bad pass against Dallas. He like. Oh, what did he do? He probably got home. It's a better like, hey, don't you yell at my baby no more. Hey, hey, you know, it's funny. All that cursing they do on the court, Joe, but you couldn't play with your son because the first time he curse, you know, you got them carries, huh? Yeah. Yeah. Coyote, Coyote, send these to me. Hey, Coyote, be watching the show. Let me see what they look like. Let's see what they look like. Hey, hey, Coyote be watching the show, right? And he told me he gave me his blessing to give Joe that work. I will knock them damn tassels off them damn shoe. Boy, when I get done with your. Hey, Joe. Yeah, I see. Hey, that's what you. Hey, that's what you're going to see. You're going to see them tassels going right by your ass. That's what you're going to see. Huh? Can I read? Can I read going back to his hair? Hey, hey, hey, hey, Kairi, I appreciate that. Well, I love you. You hear me? I ain't going to let you down. I'm going to give Joe that work. Hey, they'll fly. But what I'm hoping in, they ain't going to be the mess of what I got. I ain't even going to show you. You're going to see them when you see me partner. Yeah, that's how I roll. Yeah. Hey, hey, hey, yeah. OK, OK. Hey, man, your mouth, Joe. Man, your mouth now. Nothing beats flying with Jet2.com. Right now, we've got some great offers available. So book now and choose from our best flight times. And you can fly from Gatwick Airport to some amazing destinations and get 10 kilograms of handler goods included. Jet2.com, friendly low fares, subject availability and conditions. Yeah. Jet has finished as the number one seed his entire career in 2018, 19 and 20 and 21 at Mihajah Academy. He was the number one seed in the 2021 people under 19 World Championship. Number one seed, Gonzaga, number one seed, OKC, Oklahoma, see OKC, number one, number one, number one. I told you what I told you. Ocho doing the playoffs, I said the better check becomes, the better OKC will be. And he will determine whether they be a dynasty or not. Because if he played great, it's going to be hard to beat him. Look what he did yesterday, Uncle Ocho. He had 13, 14, four blocks. You know what I'm saying? So he rim protecting. Not only is he scoring, but he rim protecting. He making the game easy, you know, for the guys around him as well. I think his growth and maturity for OKC will determine how great of a team that they are. Yeah, we know Shay going to put up 30 plus. We know Jalen Jalen. Jalen Williams going to do his thing. But if chick can play at a high level, man, they going to be almost unbeatable, fellas. Would you? Yeah. I mean, he's look, they just got so many. They just come at you. It's just going to be it's just going to be hard for somebody to beat them unless they have and the thing is, what are the likelihood of them having four bad nights? Not likely. Four bad nights because they got guys that can shoot it. McCain was a great pickup. Caruso. Yeah, what's the lefty? What's the other little lefty who be balling a little light skin? Oh, yeah, I know you talking about. I think it was named Joe. I know his name. Mitchell. It might be. It might be. But Jeremy Clay was a solid pickup because remember, he was playing really well in Philly before he got hurt. Oh, yeah, yeah. No, no, no. He was a great pickup, you know, very underrated. Yeah, you know, a guy who is hungry, ready to prove himself. Obviously, he probably he feels slighted for what happened to him in Philly. So, you know, he coming over there with with with, you know, with a vengeance, bro, he looked good out there. Oh. Check this out. Miles Garrett skip the start of teams offseason program. That puts him on track to lose one million dollars in 2026 compensation. Garrett contracts includes a one million dollar workout bonus in 2026. To earn it, Garrett must participate. I can't hear you. We can't. Hey, what's happening? What's up? Joe, man, Miles ain't Miles ain't tripping by that. Man, please. A million. What do you mean he ain't tripping? But we talk about Miles Garrett, boy. He's not there for a reason. Huh? Sometimes sometimes the message is clear. The message is what's the message? Oh, Joe. And he don't want to be there. Man, come on now. Come on now. You don't want to be there. So you think that's why he ain't showing up for the. For the for the many counts. Yeah. He never missed before. It's OTA's is obviously OTA's is voluntary. It's in your contract. You don't have to come. But if you don't come, obviously you miss money. He never he never missed before. I'm sure. I don't know. Don't quote me. I'm just saying, why would they make it a story now? If he's always been there, if he's always been there, he's not showing up this year. You're not. Hell, he got his money. Oh, Joe, he took the money. If he didn't want to be there, he shouldn't have took the money. He took the money. Come on, Joe. We got you guys. Yeah. We. Oh, but here's the thing, though, Joe. What do they have? New what is what's different? Coaches, a new coach. Yeah. A new system. Yes. Remember, we had this car for the same thing with Lamar. We had this conversation about Lamar. New system. So and look, I'm like, Joe, if they had a million dollars in my contract, I was there. But like I said, he was trying to give me $50 a day. I said, hell with you. I said, I worked my last $50 a day job when I was in when I was landscaping back in college. I say, no more $50 a day for me. But I got a I got a question for you and think about this. Someone like Miles Garrett, you know, yes, as well as he played last year, as well as he played in general, someone like that, that is as valuable as they are, who is the identity, not just that defense, but the identity to that franchise. They still won what, five games, four games or whatever. Whatever may have been five and 12. Yeah, Joe, why not give him the opportunity to go somewhere else and give him a chance to win? Why? Why not? Because you're losing with probably the greatest defense in that's playing in today's game. Why not give him opportunity to do that? Well, maybe they. And I think in the message to me, I mean, I mean, I don't know. Maybe I'm maybe I'm tripping chat. You can let me know if I'm tripping, but to not show up to OTAs, which you've always have. And there's a new regime, new culture staff, new defense scheme, new office scheme, everything being implemented in and you don't show up. I mean, I mean, the message has always been clear. You don't have to come out and say it. You're actually you're actually going to show OK, as enough as enough. I might be wrong. I kind of thought that, like, OK, a new like a lot of times, like with new coach, with a new coach, come, you know, they can have three men and can't you get in, you want to, you know, show your face as a leader and you know, learn to defense. And plus a million dollars, I pick up a million dollars while doing that. But I mean, it had been tough for me because when I'm there, I'm there. I really I really didn't like go home like, like, you know, all the weeks and stuff like that. Like, you know, some guys like we get off and we wouldn't have to be back until Wednesday and some guys would go wherever they go. I was never like that. So when I was there in Denver, I was there. Once I left, I wasn't trying to be back until I absolutely had positively had to. Yeah, I ain't I ain't do that. I ain't do that. Joe, we had our office in the program was 13 weeks. It was Monday through Thursday, Friday, Friday through Sunday was off. Nine times out of 10 that Friday, Friday through Sunday. I'm going back to Miami and I would always, I always do the morning work on a Thursday and I get on a flight Thursday evening, fly to Miami, relax here, don't do anything, probably do some training as well. Right. Last Thursday, then back on the plane Sunday night and then repeat it. It was a 13 week program. It was fun. I really enjoyed it because I'm a Jim rat. Joe, hell, I can't stay out. I can't stay out the gym now and now I'm playing nothing. So you could imagine back then when I was playing. So I was excited to go to the all season, all season program and just, you know, see the fellas, man. It was cool to see the fellas. Hey, I remember my rookie early on because Dan, that was a big thing for Dan. Yeah, you had to be there. I was like, man, I sure hope I can get good enough one day. I don't have to come to this. As soon as I got good enough, I had to come. Oh, yeah. Hey, you one of our leaders. I'm leading from Atlanta. That's what I'm leaving from. I'm a me for Atlanta. No, no, no, no, no, no, y'all not paying y'all paying him to lead. He making the big bucks. Y'all ain't paying me to leave. I'll be in Atlanta and besides, and then Mike just came to the realization say, you know what, he's like, I remember at 96, I didn't come. I didn't come. I didn't come back and they didn't do no offseason program. And he was like, we got there practice. He said, let me see what you looking like. So I pulled my shirt up. He like, you ain't never got to worry about coming back. Well, obviously you had the nuts in your stomach. What Joe shredded like a truck tax return. Hey, Joe, that effort I look like now, Joe. Yeah. Well, hey, man, that boy was looking like an email. It's gone. Disappear. I like that. Yeah. Yeah. But I'm like, I'm like, Joe, Joe, you know, dad, well, if the bingus put a million dollars, yeah, no matter how much you let that go. Hey, my mind was only 250 and I was a million. Yeah. Oh, I mean, I'm there. I'm there. And you know, you know, it's funny to. You know, when it comes to my crap in general, you don't have to incentivize for me because I love what I do. Yes. I love working. I love training. I just I love being in that environment. But just the fact that to be there, you mean you're going to pay me this to be there. Yeah. And now I already like to do it anyway. Well, hell, shoot. No, no, no, no. But see, the thing is with that, I did away with the sentence of my contract after they screwed me out of that hundred grand. I ain't put no more. What you mean? How they screw you out of that hundred grand? What happened? God, man, I was supposed to get 100,000 for a thousand yards. Joe, I had nine hundred and 95 yards at the half. I had 116 yards and they. Throw the ball on six catches and they catch another pass to the second half. Hey, they did that on purpose. I know they did this. And guess what? I ain't put another. Tell me you want to say I want nothing because y'all put y'all going to pay me what y'all supposed to pay me and I'm supposed to lead the team and catch it. I'm supposed to lead the team in the yard. I'm supposed to be an all pro. I'm supposed to go. You go to the pro bowl. I don't need y'all to say that because y'all pay me enough. That's what I'm supposed to do. I don't need no extra. Hey, Joe, they play that game. I like it. I mean, a lot of people joke. Yeah, I know. I ain't gonna lie. But if football cut through that football. Hey, Joe, they play that game with a lot of people. What you have incentives you need to catch is you need certain yards that are running back. They will play with you. If you're being on the field, a certain amount of snaps, all that stuff, they keep track of everything. They keep track of everything and they will not let you hit it, depending on who you are. And they do it on purpose every time. Like that, like that little chunk of change compared to what they have. It's going to make a big difference. Cause you gotta realize, Hunter father with a lot of money to me because I was only making 325 right. A hundred thousand. Hey, that's a nice little chunk of change. Yeah, yeah. Right. Yeah. And you know, I had a I had three. Yeah. Pamples. I got a guy. Got your boy. That guy's your boy. About two, three years of Pamples right now. Pamples. Hey, daycare. But you know, daycare was expensive back then. I don't know what daycare is now, but I know what expensive. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. I can only imagine. I mean, you are going to know what it's like soon. And now you are. Oh, Joe might. I don't know nothing. I thought we talked about this, fellas. No, we, no, no. You and Joe talk about it. No, no, no, no, no. I know Joe was on my side. Joe said, I eat the Joe and then me and then you made the. Hey, you know what, you know what I just thought about? Think about this. Think about how other ethnicities, other races, they plan having their kids at the same time so they could do everything together. Can you imagine all us, you know, with our babies pushing strollers at the park? No, I can't. I can't imagine that. Pretty soon somebody will have to push me. That's what the baby me. That's gonna be my big ass in the chair. You're talking about. You talking about. Hey, it's a it's a movie. It's a movie. It's a movie like that. I can't remember what movie it is. I think that would be dope though. Like that's that's a movie. That's a TV that listen. That's a TV series in itself. Oh, Joe, nightcap. Joe, yeah, it's I'm already sitting in the third seat. I'm already sitting in the very back with the thing pulled down with my leg on top of it. I'm done, Joe. I'm gonna practice. I will practice. I'm doing all I can, but I'm gonna go to code. Don't put me in. I don't know no place. Hey, hey, hey, oh, Joe. Your boy over here. I ain't doing number shooting blanks, man. I cut the line over here. Yeah, line cut over here, man. Oh, man, God, I got it. I'm already. I ain't got no doggy water. Come on. But now come on, Joe. You did that. Joe, I struck out. I got three. Three strikes out, baby. But Joe, you want to put the cut the line because our numbers is bad. Love Joe. It's in the Bible. Ain't no bad luck. Your boy ain't doing number shooting blanks, man. That's all right. Yeah, yeah, this is it. I'm like, me and my lady, we just practicing. We just practicing. That's it. That's it. Joe, I ain't got no pun war in me. This ain't strong at all. Damn, man. I can't believe. This is war. They got no bubbles to it. This ain't no spark. What are they? You know that little fizz? They say, what you want? Flat or spark? Give me flat. Because that's all I got. It'd be flat. Hey, man, y'all, y'all done messed up. I was, I just had it. I envisioned us having a TV show as new fathers, you know, after 40. I mean, listen, Netflix is going to pick that up. Hey, hey, hey, now if you, I can reconnect it. I can reconnect the line now, but it's got to be worth it. You know what I mean? Oh, I'm going to talk to Netflix. Because they they they approached me about it. I say, listen, I'm going to talk to the fellas and see what they do. Oh, man. Uh-huh. I ain't going to be bored, Joe, that y'all. Y'all are going to be bored. You ain't got one more in y'all. There we go, Joe. There we go, Joe. I ain't got it. I ain't got it, Joe. I ain't going to lie to you. I wish I, I wish I could tell you something, but I ain't got it. I ain't I ain't I ain't going to hold you right. But because of who you are, because the value in which we possess, you know, they were talking, they were talking, you know, north of 400 million. Huh? You're talking to me. Boy. This is I ain't telling you what I heard. I ain't telling you what I heard. I'm telling you what I know. Boy, look at her. Hey. I haven't taken this off in a java case. I haven't taken it out in a case. I mean, I'm just saying. Hey, back. I'm old now. Hey. That's how the brand. Hey. Hey. Hey listen. I'm just telling you. I'm just telling you what they told me. Now it was a conversation in vague, you know. In I was vision. Like I was giving them the play and the possibility of it happen. Happening. I'm like, man, that would be dope. because no one has ever had anything like that. Nobody at the same time, you know, it do one, it do nothing. You know what, you know what guys, I'll be honest with you. If I was close to y'all age, if I was in my mid-fifties, I'd say, you know what guys, let's do it. And I'm down to 60 years. There's a eight. Hey, hey, hey. And by the time that thing set in, you know, I had to catch one when she just right about seven days afterwards, catch her just right. Probably about four, five times a day for like three, four days. Right. You good? You good? That's where they got them raw spores for. Man, I'm 65, 76 years old, going to a high school graduation. What's wrong with that? They talking about Louis Sterling. Because I was naming my brother Louis Sterling. Your granddad out here. That's my daddy, boo. Nah, I ain't. I don't know. I mean, them numbers, them numbers sound real good, which is why I keep saying. They do sound good. Oh, Cho. Yeah. Hey, mama changing two sets of diapers. Here's that man. Hey, all now. Hey, pick up some diapers for me or for him. Oh, man, that's funny. Hey, boy, I know what you mean, boy. Woo. I don't know what that thing. Joe said, I reconnect the line. Oh. Hey, man, I know I know I know I want twins. And I'm not gonna put you right at a not only where you have a start in five, but you got a bench too. Yeah. And my my bed, my bed is going to be just like OKC. Damn. I'm saying how many boys you got, oh, Joe, two. You only got two. Yeah. What? Yeah. Yeah. My son, my younger son here, he play receive at Nolan. He here with me now. Damn. You only got you. So you got, hold on. You got six girls and two boys? Yeah. You know they have a number. You have twin girls. They have eight and two. No, I'm having two. I'm doing FBI. Make sure you have boys. Ain't no FBI in vitro. I said FBI. I'd be in vitro fertilization. Oh, OK. That's enough. Yeah. That. No, FBI there. You don't need to investigate nothing. No, hell no, man, please. And you are a you don't want that because you already know you don't know how much that costs, man. I'm saying it costs. What? Man, that's expensive. No, it ain't. IVF? Come on. I'd be a probably what, maybe 2,000. Hell no, it's about 20, 25K. 20, 25, 30,000. Man, don't let the people rip you off. Come on, that's a rip off. Now you have to you have to go to multiple places is that in do then do the price comparisons. Like boy, they must they must run and put a chicken in your girl. Hey, you going to somebody back yard. You be a gay. You be a gay. Gay birth to a two pound hand. Joe, he better go to a record. He go. Hey, hey, hey, you be like the people that be suing. All of a sudden there is a white couple and they got a black baby or this black company got an Asian. Man, you better go to somewhere. You try to say somebody back yard. Tell my man, please. Yeah. They got a they got a chicken baster. Like they put gravy on the turkey. Hey, that's funny. Hell no, I'm good, man. Trends come and go. Your skin barrier doesn't. E45 lotion is effective, science backed hydration for everyday use, lightweight, fast absorbing and trusted to do what your skin needs. No fuss, no compromise. Just soft, smooth, healthy looking skin every day. Grab your E45 lotion now. Jacksonville Jaguars expect Travis Hunter to be a full time corner and a part time receiver. Rappaport as Hunter is expected to be a full participant in training camp as he continued to recover from an LCL tear that ended his 2025 rookie season. Hunter's snap count weighed heavily favor of the offensive side of the ball last year. Overall in 2025, Hunter saw 324 snaps on offense, 162 snaps on defense. So hold on, Joe. What in Rappaport is reporting is what you and I have been saying. Yes. Yes. Go ahead, go ahead. Take it off. Y'all watch out, take the conversation. I want to be one of them guys to say I told you so. Right. Go ahead, Joe. Joe and obviously Travis, his dream was going to the NFL. He said it to multiple teams is I'm hoping to do exactly what I did at Colorado. I want to be able to play both sides of the ball and be able to impact the game on both sides of the ball. Unk said, and I said as well, and I agree with him, that would be too much because of the level of talent and elite players at certain position. Think about it. Travis Hunter playing DB, then having to cover Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, you know, and then some of the elite where I received in the league and then having to turn right back around and go play on goddamn offense and play receiver and then still be a value and being very, very tactical and technical when it comes to playing a position. So at that point, you could only be just good on both ends. We could just, we could focus on one position and be great at defensive back, which you really good at. And then have packages to play on offense, which you can also be impactful, but they have special plays designed just for you to get the ball because with the ball in your hands, where you are special, special, but a full time DB is perfect. It says in the wake of Hunter's injury last season, fans were calling a jack to choose just one position for Travis, though we could see Hunter get some snaps at Y receiving 2026. It looks like he'll be dedicated a dedicated cornerback for the foreseeable future. That's what I'm saying. It's easier. Ocho, I mean, in order for this, and I didn't think like he's like, oh, I can do it. I said 130 snaps, like, eh? Yeah, eh. I said, it's easier for him to play corner and build a couple of packages in Ocho. We got a couple of sets like they did for champ Bailey. Like they did for some of the other guys, like they did for time. There've been other guys that played. Charles Wilson. Yeah, buddy. Roy Green actually started off as a corner, got some plays at Y receiver, and then he was so good they ended up moving to Y receiver and took him out of the corner. But go ahead, Joe. No, I agreed with Ocho. I think, you know, him being a DB, and then kind of similar what Ankh was just saying, like how the Cowboys used Deon. You know, he was a DB, but they had a package in there for Deon for where, you know, he would be on offense from time to time. And I think that's the same way the Jaguars probably gonna use Travis Hunter. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And like you say, 130 some snaps a game. Hell, that's basically full time on both sides, right? And it takes a toll on you, bro, cause you never get a rest. Nah. Nope. I like it. I like it too. I like it too. I like it too. The Jags are doing this so he can focus on one thing, focus on being the best defensive back he can be. Depending on where they move him. Listen, and obviously as great as you are, I hope you become not just a DB, but a traveling DB, a DB that follows the one. Man. Do that. You want to hit that payday up, hitting another payday, follow the number one on every team, and then have small packages on offense and go impact the game that way. Man. Hey look, I understand what you guys are saying. Hell, y'all played the game at a very high level, but I love seeing Travis on offense too, on coach. Boy got some hands. He electric when he catch the ball. You know what I mean? I feel like he's always a big player way. You feel what I'm saying? So I definitely hope they still keep him on offense from time to time. It ain't got to be every down, but for the most part, I want to see that electric side of him too. Yeah, of course. And I think the thing is, look, you got Parker Washington, you got Brian Thomas Jr. that had it off season. So you can plug in me and defensively, is where like, okay, we need a little help here. Guys that can get up to the quarterback, we can really use travel. Like you said, Ocho, travel. Take care of it. Because you got Nico Collins, and you got guys in that division. Vision. That you're gonna have to deal with. Yeah. So, I like it. All right, it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. What? What? What? What? What? What? What? Hopefully, we sit at the memo. Y'all stop with the corny jokes. What? Before we get to our super chat, we do got five video voicemail from our Discord. Let's hear video number one. What's going on, y'all boys? Man, I just wanna say, I relate to you on a spiritual level for real, cause my folks, I grew up by my grandparents, you know what I'm saying? And they from Washington, Georgia. So it's them, we got the same grandparents. Like when you say what you say, like I felt that shit in my soul. You know what I'm saying? And then Ocho, I ain't gonna lie, like I felt what you heavy, like we felt what you heavy, but you know, Joe walk on water in Atlanta. So you put your hands on that boy, you cannot come back to Atlanta no more. I'm just playing, but man, I love y'all show, man, I watch every day, you know what I'm saying? I'll wait and keep it going, man. I love y'all boys. Ocho, I totally appreciate that, man. That's awesome. Don't play about me, Ocho. Hey, you heard him say I'm just playing it then too, because it was gonna, it was gonna have to be two people on the hit list. He was gonna get this working. You're gonna get it too. But hey, listen, y'all are gonna be a combo, you're gonna be a two full, y'all gonna be a two full one. I appreciate buddy for even speaking up, but he ain't gotta worry about nothing. You hear me? Yeah, don't even worry about nothing, play boy, I got it. Hey, Joe, hey, Joe, hey, Joe, man, listen, man, Joe, I'm about this far off your ass. Boy, you hear me? Hey, I'm telling you, I'ma tell you what you need to do. Hey, I'ma tell you now, put a condom in your ear and fuck with your head because you're gonna get your ass wet, boy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, Joe. I like your old Joe, I like your old Joe, I like your old Joe. Hey, how's it going with that, Joe? Hey, y'all don't steal my stuff, chat, don't steal my stuff. I'ma have to shit though. Here's my second message, what do you have to say? Oh, what up, though, Uncle? Hey, so, oh, so, it's your boy Jamora Singer from Detroit. Hey, look, if y'all ever do Sexy Media Hall of Fame, you cannot tell me these are not gonna be first ballot inductees, nigga. Right? Cat Williams, Coach Brown, Michelle, and King Iso, those are first ballot Hall of Fame, Shae Shae Media inductees, damn, oh, Joe. Appreciate that, bro, appreciate that. Hey, man, what can I say, man? Hey, hey, what can I say? You know, who gays it? Who gays it? Who gays it? You know what I mean? Here's video number three, let's take a listen. Oh, Joe, Iso, Joe, this is your boy Trey, in the chat, I'm beergain268, question for y'all tonight. With the NFL draft coming up, do y'all think we'll see any more of those gigantic trades like the, like the Herschel Walker trade from the nineties? I know that one around the draft, but you know that massive kind of trade, or the Rick Williams trade, which was for the draft, but it got rid of all the first round draft picks to pick them up. Do y'all think we'll ever see another one of those big trades again in the NFL? Appreciate y'all. Yes, absolutely. Well, we got this remember Trey Lance was a big trade. Yep. I think in comparison, in comparison to that Ricky, Ricky Williams trade where they gave all those first round picks, I say Miles Garrett is on the move. I say Miles Garrett is on the move. Now I don't know if it, but probably won't happen draft day. But I think AJ Brown will also be on the move after the June 1st. After June 1st. He would be on the move as well. Any other players, there aren't any other players right now where it's, where the roads are rocky that it would make extreme headlines. Oh my God, so-and-so just got traded. I mean, everyone else is probably set in stone. Maybe Dexter Jackson, Dexter Jackson who says he wants to be traded. Dexter Lawrence, you mean? Dexter Lawrence, I'm sorry. I'm thinking about DJI that played with me in Cincinnati and played for the Bucks. I'm tripping. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, look, I think the thing is D. Lawrence, he don't have any more guaranteed money. Oh, he trying to get it. He wants to do country, he want more guaranteed money. Oh, maybe he trying to pull the Miles Garrett. Do they value him the same way they value Miles Garrett though? Where that was- Ocho is hard when his sack total dipped the way it did. I just can't. But I can't, I can't, Ocho. He the D Tackle. I know, I know, look at his numbers, Ocho. And you got Brian Burns, you got Thibodeaux, you got Carter. They both had double digits. Brian Burns at like 17, 18 sacks. Yeah. I cannot. And I think Dexter is a phenomenal D Tackle, but I cannot reward him coming off the season that he just had. Damn, I can't. I just can't. I would think, I would think in a sense, based on how well he's played, despite his dip and sack total, he still is a D Tackle. I paid him, I compensated him. I made him a high-spay defensive tackle. I mean, close to the high-spay one time. Right. I paid him, I paid him, Ocho. Now, I'm paying on both based on what I think you'll do. I can't pay you on what you done, because I've already paid you on that. Paid you for that. That's a good one. That's a good one. Hey, you talking like a GM there. Because I mean, look, I think, I got look and burns. I don't know what they're going to do with Thibodeaux. I don't know what they're going to do with Thibodeaux. I mean, I do a card here, the third pick of the draft. He ain't going nowhere. I think Thibodeaux was like the fifth or the sixth pick of the draft. You got Brian Burns, who's been unbelievable. Ocho. Yes, sir. That man had a half a sack last year. So what do I pay for a half a sack, Joe? Ocho. Hold on. That's all he had for the year? Yes. Hey, Joe, he a detackle. Joe, he taking on a double team every game, Joe. And the year before he took on double team, it had eight and a half. Yeah. He's a double team. Hey, Joe, it's hard for sex to, you know, hard for detackle to come by sex. I mean, that's why Aaron Donald was Aaron Donald. It's hard to do what Aaron Donald did, right? Dealing with that double team. You got two, 300 pound people on you every play. Yeah. Ocho. Ocho, he went from nine sacks to eight sacks. From nine sacks to a half? Yeah. I'm with you. I'm with you. Ocho, I can't. I can't. Boy, that's a horrible precedent to sit. Right. Because you know what's going to happen? Guys are going to have terrible years, and they don't have any more guaranteed money. They're going to say what you did for Dexter. I like what you're going. I can't. I can't. I got you. He going to have to play for this one. Dang. Mm hmm. I mean, he went from seven and a half to four and a half to nine to a half a sack. I can't. I can't. I'm sorry. Here's the fourth one. Let's take a listen. What's up, Ocho and still King ISO, man. We don't even care about you losing, man. You still a King, bro. All that stuff, you all that work you done put in on them boys. We forget bowling golf in the Frisbee. We ain't we ain't forgetting that, man. You really what three and one against them boys. They messing with you. But you a cancer. I'm a cancer. You know, I'm going to order some of that La Portier. Man, I don't know where to get the cigars from Ocho from. So I'm going to have to beat them up to find out about it. I guess, man, he'll never drop them in the chat or nothing. I'll never hear him say nothing about the cigars. No more man. What's up? I'm going to pause on your what dog? I'm 511 185 Ocho boy. I'll do it to you. 511. Yeah. You catch the straight from everybody, bro. Now, they may know straight. Them just from people that want their ass whoop. And actually, you know what? He want he want me to put these paws on him so he can take me to court. He think he's slick. A young boy sign this waiver so we can get this thing on. So you can see what these hands see with hella hands. No talking back. Here's our last one out fifth and final one. Let's take a listen. What up? Oh, what up? I so what up? Ocho. I'm just 24 year old from Mississippi. I just knew what y'all got going on. I just want to ask a question. I really, really be on my mind like an over 24 year old. Like I said, I got two little boys and it get hard here. I like, you get, get real hard out here. I ain't gonna lie working a job you really don't want to do. But you just trying to make ends meet. What's some advice you would give to me? If you could give me advice, what advice would you give to me? Thank you. And work the job that you have until you can get to find the job that you want. Because like you said, you have other responsibilities other than yourself. Maybe if it was just you, you could like, you know what? I'm gonna kind of, I'm gonna kind of look for me a job that I really want to do. But in the meantime, you don't have that luxury because you have two other miles to feed. Now I don't know if you have a girlfriend or wife or significant other. I don't know. But I just know that you said you have two little boys and them two little boys are depending on you. So until you find something that you want to do or you like to do, you got to stay where you are and stay, and stay grounded. And that happens a lot. I mean, that's the whole thing of eventually finding something that you love because there's nothing worse than being on a job that you don't want to go to. It's nothing worse than being in a relationship that you don't want to be in, Ocho. Remember, I mean, the loneliest places to be somewhere that you're not wanted. But bro, don't give up the faith. Don't stop because like you said, you got two little boys that are depending on you, that are counting on you. So until you find something that you like and that you really love to do, just stay where you are. Just keep grinding. Hey, bang the gun to chase. But hey, stick prayer about it and start putting in applications. I don't know what you want to do. I wish you would have said that, you know, I'm doing X, but I really want to get Y. I wish you could have given us a little bit more information. Bro, you got to hang in there, man. They locked in big fellas. Yes. Yeah, especially for the little ones. Yeah, whatever. Hey, sometimes whatever you got to do for them to make sure they straight, you know, like I'm saying, just lock in on X until Y comes about and comes in the fruition. Then you'll be able to do what you love. And none like a none like putting a smile on them kids face, bro. Yeah. And it don't take much. Don't bro. You don't take much because they don't know. Hey, hey, hey, we want to end. We went. I took my kids and dreaded today because they don't spring break. Hey, I'm hell on them go cars now. I don't play no game now. I'm hell on them go cars. But you know, my kids love injuries, bro. We go to injuries. Yeah, I just take back. My son now he four years old, he play everything in that boy. He'll be hell to get him up out of there. Yeah. Yeah, but they love it though. They love it. As long as they smile and I'm good bro. Yeah. Jiu Jitsu 83 oaks. Pine Bluff here can 100% remember I so winning at all. Pine Bluff Arkansas 42 year old man. Love y'all just wanted to say the way you interact with us fans make us feel included. That's it. 3 million this time next year and I'll be here. Hey man. Hey look, I told y'all man ain't gonna lie to you because of sound fly to you. Oh, I don't do that. They ain't what I do. One from we'll get down like that. You feel me? Hey, Joe, that was a Joe. That was one person that that that that like Jay-Z said that ain't enough. You need more people. Now what you want from me now the man them bouts. You need a one person bouts. Well, then how many people you want to vouch? We get many in here now. That ain't enough. I need to see footage. I need to see footage. Aaron was 513. Hey, I interview Vince Buck from Central State about his senior bowl experience as an HBCU player. What was yours like and how did it shaped you? I did not go. I actually me and VB. I think I know I know I went to the East West Shrine game with BB because VB and I came out to say your Vince Buck. I think I'm trying to think where did Vince go? Did he go to New Orleans? I know DC because me and Darian Goren Darian Goren came out also and he was from Jackson State. He was a coach WC Goren. What a WC Goren's boys. I'm trying to think but going to those bowl games and seeing those guys. I went to the blue gray game which was in on Christmas and Montgomery in Montgomery, Alabama. Then I went to the East West Shrine that was in Palo Alto. To go up against those guys at the University of Miami and know the name and all those guys. I knew I belonged. But to be there and to be on the field and be able to compete against those guys. I was like, yeah, man. It was an unbelievable experience. It's great for an HBCU guy to be there and people think enough like, you know what, let's bring him up here and see. I know he did against lower level competition but let's see when we add competition if he's still willing to compete. Oh, I am. Let's see if they still willing to compete. When they see they ain't ever seen those 6225 pounders. Yeah, built like an African God. They ain't seen nothing like this here. Go to 022. Oh, oh, Joe King. I saw that Gucci man and push out the situation going to have going to have ever been a situation where you signed a bad contract or felt someone slidered you and how did you react? You signed a contract. Yeah. That's why they get that's why they don't do in the beginning. When they say word is bond, that's what they meant. A contract was a meaning of the minds. You agree. Okay, Joe, I tell you what, for a pig and a bushel of corn, I'm going to trade you goat's milk or cow's milk and some chicken. Okay, we have a contract. Okay, good. But guess what? Somebody got what they intended to get first and the other guy reneged. And so they say, you know what? Now, verbal contracts can still be binding. But once you put your name on the dotted line, it's rough. That's what it is. Kind of hard. It's kind of hard to get up out of it. Hey, hey, like Gucci say, what the hell? That's the truth, man. Damn. But I ain't going to jail. What? Hey, hey, not if I just got out. If I just got done doing four or five years. Shit. I ain't going back. I like freedom too much. I like money. I like everything. I don't, I'm trying to think. Unless they got a bear, unless you got 700, 800 million buried up under the jail somewhere. I ain't really trying to go. They got no bear treasure. I heard no bear treasure in no pillage industry, no jail or nothing. There ain't no bear treasure. I ain't trying to go there. See that? And big aunt, what's going on nightcap fam? In your guys opinion, who's a better power dunker? Dominique or Sean Kim? That's a good one. That is a very good one. Man, I think power power. Power. I ain't going live. Hey, look, Kim, Kim a bad boy. He got some power, but Nick has some power. But Nick, oh my God. Yeah. Because both of them, I mean Dominique with double pumping back was on people. Man, man was windmill in two hands. I'm talking about, come on man. But Sean Kim got some nasty ones too though, uh. Oh, you remember he dunked on Kim? Yeah, who? He cuffed that thing. He come through that thing like that. Yeah. That's how I come through on auto. Boom. Oh, you. Man, I flip you. You think about dunking on me, man? What you thought this was, boy? Hey, Joe, I'll flip you, man. By the time you jump, you're going to be on your head, Joe. Damn. Hey, Joe, I'm not one of them, Joe. I'm not one of your little NBA friends, Joe. Like I play dirty, boy. You hear me? Jailhouse ball. Hey, Ocho, I'm bad. And your best bet is to have a referee too. I don't need that, Ocho. I'm built for the bullshit now. You know what I mean? I'm built for that. Okay. Okay. I'm built for that. Oh, we miss one. We miss one. I miss one. I got to go back. Dr. Frank L. Bellam is like, how are you guys doing? Are you all taking care of yourselves? Are you getting enough rest? No. I'm glad. But I did. I ain't gonna lie. Ocho, I slept till, I slept till like 11 o'clock today. When? Oh, oh. So you in Miami and chose to get beauty rest instead of hit your boy. Hey, I'm in town. Let's go for a breakfast. I've done two podcasts. This will be my fifth podcast in two days. Hey, man, working, Ocho, man, he getting to the bus. What does that have to do with seeing me hollering at your boy? I'm saying, I'm looking at you right now. I'm looking at your black ass right now. I'm talking about, I'm gonna took you to breakfast and talk. I'm gonna treat you to something. I'm glad you in here this ass. Damn it, man. Everybody's studying that. Let me say, I'm glad you in here. All right, all right. Burn rub on this ass when you get up out of here too. Yeah, okay. I'm glad you in here this ass. I'm glad you in here this ass. Yeah, okay. Hey, hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. Hey, you owe you almost all my last words, man. I'm telling you now. Like, hey, hey, hey. Hey, I'm like my grandma used to say now, all right. Uh, man, yeah, man. Yeah, I be bad. I be, oh, man, I be trying to get some sleep on the plane. You don't have no problem sleeping on the plane. I get it, but I can't. You don't have no problem sleeping on the plane. I do have. I can probably get like 10, 15 minutes. I can't sleep like Jordan before they take off. Hey, you see Jordan, baby. Hey, Jordan, that's me. Come tell me. Hey, look, the only thing that wakes me up is when we hit the ground too hard. What's going? Yeah, I be knocked out. Going to the airport. What the hell? Somebody for the conversation we were supposed to have. That joke. That joke. That joke. That joke. That joke will sleep anywhere. Yeah, I sleep. I sleep good on the plane too, but it's a good. No matter how long. Whoa. Paul. What I say, no matter how short or how long. The flight. I said, no matter how short. I said, I just say, pause it. Come on, Joe. I said, wait. Daniel Wells, 49, 70, big, big three question. How do you guys choose your game to accessory? Do you guys like the color coordinate gloves, cleat shoes and elbow bands with the jersey? Nah, hell nah. I mean, they already picked that up. I mean, you got a home jersey. We didn't have all those jerseys that they got now. We had a home jersey. We had a road jersey. Hey, that's it. Home pants. Not me. I ain't going to lie to y'all. I like that. When I get my ankle tape up and we wearing our rear uniforms for the house, I want that rear tape down there. You know what I mean? They're coming up out my sock. Yeah, I want that. I want that real tape down there. And we playing on the road. I want my, I want my, I want whatever I'm getting my ankle tape, whatever color jersey we wear. That's what that's what color I want on my, on my, on my tape. Yeah. Yeah. I'm Joe. You might be superstitious. Maybe, maybe I just like to kind of color coordinate a little bit. You know what I mean? No. On the road, we were in white and at home, we were in orange or blue. Later, later we got a, for the most part, um, white and orange or white and white or white on white. Don't you, you ain't had nothing. You ain't had no, I know you had some accessories. You, they were catching up with you. Hey, I, I, orange shoes, orange, tin strap, orange gloves, black shoes, black, tin strap, black gloves. I just paid the fine Joe. How much was the fine? I mean, it went up every time. First offense, 5,000, second offense, 15, no, 10, second offense, third offense, probably went to 25. I didn't care Joe. I just picked, I just picked and choose when to do it. I will go cleats depending on who we were playing. Hey, you know what? When you look at these guys now, especially in the NBA, they ain't even got a, they shoes ain't even got a match. They jerseys no more. Yeah. I mean, you look at Boston Hill, they got green uniforms. It might be somebody with some orange shoes. Yeah. With pink, red, look at LeBron. LeBron, they had shoes yet to match his uniform. LeBron, hey, LeBron coming out with a 23, he's like, look, these gon' be a baby. Go buy these. All right. Tell this uniform. Right. Thanks. Thanks. Who did Jim rat? Ocho Binks would say McDonald is a preventive medicine. I mean, I mean, the proof is in the pudding. It's a scientific fact. Scientific fact. Well, you know, Brendan Crowe, do you guys believe the top three wide outs in the draft are Tate, Lemon Tyson, or the three sleepers out there like Ted Hurst, Chris Bale and Bryce Lance? I think Lemon, with a lemon or Tyson that won the Blitner Cuff Award. I think he's the guy from USC. He likes. I like Tate. Look, those wide, it's hard to pick against Ohio State wide receivers because you've seen the production, you see a larvae, you see Garrett Wilson, you see a Bucca, you see J.S. Ian, Marvin Harrison, Jr. Off to a little slow start, but don't you maybe lose a little weight, get some flexibility back and become that. Right. So we've seen the success that the Ohio State receivers have had over the last several years. So it's hard. It's really, really hard for me to say, like, you know what, I'm going to take somebody over one of those guys because they are, they're coached up extremely well. Yeah. They're heat. They're great. They got big catch radiuses, they're good run after the catch. And based on what I've seen, it's hard. It'll be hard for me to pick against Tate. Hey, y'all think, y'all think, oh boy, Jeremiah Smith is going to be number one pick next year? Man, number one. No question about it. Number one, if you have another season like he's had the previous two years, number one, there's not, I ain't seen a quarterback. What if Arch Manning plays next season like he played the last four games? That's a good one. Because we were talking about him last four games and he showed out in the mold. He did. He did. And he's a quarterback. I mean, I mean, I'm starting to think the last one, the last one I received the winning number one overall was what Kishan? 96. It's been that long? I don't think, you know, yeah, Kishan 96. And before that was Irving Friar in 84. Yeah, Joe, he's special. No, because, you know, remember, Calvin was number two behind Jermakas. Jermakas Russell, yeah. So I don't, I don't think, I could be wrong, but I think the last, why I received it, the number one overall was Kishan in 96. And that was the year they had a bunch of receivers go. T.O. was in that draft. Marvin Harrison was in that draft. Moussin Mohamed was in that draft. I think Eric Moles was also in that draft. If I'm not mistaken now. Hey, Eric Moles was big than a Joker, boy. Yeah. He didn't peel this price. Kevin Boatnight, uh, we should, uh, who should we take it 27? I'm stressing over here the 49ers. I need a wide receiver. Uh, I don't know if I'm going to be available. Another one. Who they got? And where I received it? Yeah. Oh, they, who they signed it? Mike, Mike Evans, Mike Evans. Okay. Purcell, uh, Purcell, uh, John Jennings hadn't signed with anyone. He's not back yet. I, you, he's gone. Uh, the other guy, what was the guy he had, uh, ended up going to Arizona. We had him on the show. I forget his name. Hmm. He was in New England. Then he was in San Fran, goes to New England and then comes back to, uh, Kendrick Bourne. Kendrick Bourne. Yes. What you think, what you think they need? D line, DBs. Oh, they just got to stay healthy. That, that, that's it. They, I mean, I mean, they don't really have a weakness. I'd say maybe a DB, a solid DB. T.S. Carwash detail service. I'd say Denver coming out of the West. I don't curse around my parents, my elders, uncle, tell me about Terrell Davis. Man, you would like that, bro. I just love the way he came in and just worked. He started like number six on the jump chart and every day in practice, he just got better and better and getting better. Now I'm not going to sit here and tell you, I knew he was going to be that because I didn't. I just knew he worked hard and, and, and like I said, he getting, he getting practice and a he make it happen. And, but it was that play in, in, in Japan on the kickoff team that he came in. I'm like, man, who is a boy? I said, man, that's that running back TD. I said, they're going to move in after DB talking about TD. Bro, they put him in and he ain't looked back. He was special. I just, uh, obviously he made the Hall of Fame, but there wasn't a better big game running back than you. He would like that. He was like that every, I'm talking about any big game that we had, he was showing up. He was going to do his thing. Dark born, uh, oh, Joe Isle. What are your thoughts on Arkansas assistant Chuck Martin joining coach Malone with the Tar Heels, uh, uh, with the Tar Heels. I love Martin and what he's helped coach Cal, you know, do up there in Fayetteville in Northwest Arkansas. I hate to see him leave man. I obviously they probably, they probably dropped him off with a big bag. Okay. Oh, Joe. Yeah. Yeah. Dip like that. But you know, good luck to him. But we got a, we got a young class coming in this year, fellas. Y'all thought there's a couple of nights. Now I ain't going to say they're going to win SEC player of the year and freshman of the year now or later, but we got a, we got a class coming in, bro. That's going to be like that. Oh, y'all got some spending. It's going to be like that. Yes. Tino underscore SB, uncle, Joe still King Isle. You guys watching the masters all weekend was hoping Bryson D. Shembo could win it, but doesn't look good. I think Rory is tired for the lead. Roy wanted last year. I don't know. I used to see a stat. No one that's led opening day has gone on to win the masters. Normally the guy, you know, starts off slow. It's in striking distance and picks it up over the next three days. But I really look. I like golf. I mean, they better not let Scottie Sheffler close. All he do is win. I mean, I don't, I don't, I like golf. I don't watch it as much as I was there. Like when Tiger was playing, I watch, you know, I find myself sitting down cause I wouldn't see what Tiger was doing, especially the majors and see him with that, that red and those black pants, making that charge. But on Sunday, I just want to go what I just want to go and get no ash. Ain't nobody eating no pimento cheese, but they still got a lot of cheese. But they still got the prices like they had in the original. So a sandwich and cost you like a dollar. Solders like 50 cents stuff. You ever went to the masters on? I have not had an opportunity to go. But man, it's too much walking. I can't walk. I am. I'm stuck. I'm stuck like Chuck. Man, they still over those over those, I think it's what four or five days. They do $70 million in merchandise. I get everybody want those hats, those t-shirts, those coffee, those, those cups. 70 million in five days. I can see that. Jonathan be good. Oh, any chance bring a molecule or Jenny tap on nightcap? What do you want them to do? You just want to have a conversation? No. Keen down Anderson. Oh, Joe, nothing wrong with eating groceries been doing it since I was 18. I'm 26. There we go. There we go. What? Hey, hey, that's what that's the saying is say get behind it. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Now, I know we talked about, you know, we know what you'll like to eat groceries and all that. But both of y'all like y'all groceries. So I don't, you know, I don't know what's worth. Yeah. Whoa, whoa, whoa, Joe. You want to be out? You getting locked into it. Hey, all I said, they call you boy cause call the duty. I'll be crawling. I'll be crawling. I'm just saying that's all. Hey, Joe, you got to live a little bit. I'm living. I'm living. I know. I know. Joe, you know, you know, Joe, you living inside your box. You need to get outside the box. Okay. So the things in life that you haven't done and you haven't experienced. And I want, I want that for you. I want that. I'm sure you are watching the show is tell her. Tell her. Tell her. Don't you know, know, know what my lady got up, man. That was top of good discussion. She said she so many of her friends had to send her. She said, she said, what's wrong with okay. Okay. She's like, I said, I don't know, baby. We good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We good. We good. I mean, that's, that's okay. I mean, Joe, Joe, it's, it's on a mind, Joe. Just go ahead and man, just let it happen, man. Just, you know, so you can come back and tell us about your experience. I mean, they, they kids starting up young with this stuff, man. Joe, a, a uncle's on TV everywhere, man. It's on TV. I mean, I, I just want to know who I want to know who the first guy is like, man, guess what I did last night. Hey, hey. He would have whoever it was. I guarantee he was under the influence boy. I got to be on the influence doing that. I don't, Joe, I don't drink, Joe. You got to be doing something boy. But he wanted to get his stripes, you know, your tongue full man. Yeah. No, you got to do it. Hey, Joe, I'm just, hey, sometimes, you know, you like to set the standard man. That's all. No, no, Joe. But here's the, but see, but like you said, he said, oh, how you think I get them 12? Oh, okay. Hey, hey, Joe. Oh, okay. I see what's going on. Okay. Ain't got, ain't got, ain't got nothing to do. You know, Joe, I ain't spending no money. I see you ain't got too well if you, if you eating groceries. Hey, hey, hey, hey, that, that, that, that just happened. Hey, Joe, that, hey, Joe, that's just half the story, Joe. Huh? Put that baby, put that baby deal. Hey, man. Hey, say, you know, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they here for, they here for a good time. Okay. Yeah. Oh, man, you did, you got to start. Oh, Joe got to be stopped chat. Y'all tell him he wrong. I'm wrong. Hey, y'all put them, uh, uh, uh, those, uh, uh, mojo's in there with the throwing up. Hey, yeah, no. Okay. Okay. Oh, Joe, y'all got to chill, bro. Y'all got to chill. Hey, hey, Joe, it's all about. I ain't doing that, Joe. I be chilling, Joe. I ain't on that time. Did you see, hey, uh, uh, did you see that man stand up the other night and spread his cheeks, tongue-bustle? Yeah. Did you see that? Yeah. Hey, Joe, you got, Joe, you got to lean over the bed. Joe, don't be scared, man. Lean over the bed. Huh? And tell, tell her do the hit, do the donkey punch, tell her punch in the back of the head. What would you think? What was playing? Yeah. Yeah, Joe. I'm telling you, Joe. Y'all got, y'all got a Joe way. I'm a young. I'm a. I'm a. I'm about to be 58. I just I just I'm just trying to I'm just trying to just trying to make it. See you. Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe, you want me to see you some video for visual reference. That's another episode of nightcap. We thank you guys for tuning in. Let's kill this. I'm about to hit. Hey, get in the things. Would you ever entertain a nightcap roast if so named three comedians, a piece, and y'all would have to have to have it on it? You down for a roast, don't you? Yeah, yeah, boy. Hey, hey. Hold on, who get roasted? Kevin Hart about to get roasted. We all get roasted. I'm an easy target, though. I'm so easy to roast. No, I'm the easiest target right now. No, no, you ain't. No, you ain't. Because I say stuff that is roastable and don't care. So I'm an easier target than you. Yeah, but I have some I have some some incidents, doctor. Yeah, but that's not that ain't no. My roasting would be way worse than yours. Well, I show up. Hey, I wear the same pants every single day. Don't take them off. Hey, they Joe, they didn't kill my cheetah pants. Now, you don't kill your damn cheetah pants. Yeah. Joe, this one for you. It says, hey, Ocho, need to teach ISO. It eat the stuff. Stuff costs pizza. Man, come on, bro. Yeah, thank you for joining us for another episode of Black Kept. Y'all know who I am. Damn. Come on. They all do it too much, man. Man, y'all come on now. Man, don't be falling in with Ocho food. But the one thing I do know, I know he ain't the only one out here doing it, though. He ain't the only one. He definitely ain't the only one. No, y'all just not. Y'all haven't matured yet. That's all. I'm fully mature. Yeah. No. Lord have mercy. I mean, if this was going on when I was young, Joe, if this was what was taking when we, Joe, I don't know what we would do, Ocho. Joe. Man, come on. Hey, look, when I was young, what mean like when I was a little young since my teenage years, I never heard of this. I never heard of Cass doing that. No. And if a guy did it, the girl would get mad. And once the girl got mad, and that's why you ate my such a size. Oh, you all. Yeah. Oh, did you? Yeah, that insult don't work no more. It worked back then. Yeah, it won't work no more. That's like, you call a girl promiscuous. You call an H-O-E. That don't work no more. They proud of that stuff now. So there's really nothing. There's really no way to insult us people with free spirits. You keep your free spirit in there. Yeah, I'm like, I'm in Joe. Joe, we aligned. We aligned on this with you, Oyo, and Ocho. Oh, now you're back in our home. Ocho, that friend. Ocho, that friend that's going all the way, that would take one for the next. So you got to keep a guy like Ocho with you all the time. Because you know girls, everybody ain't going to be the 10 to 12. There won't be some two who's infusing you. You know what I'm saying? So when that view comes up, they don't want to split. They been talking. We got to stick together. You see how you lying, Joe? That's how my boy Ocho come in. You ain't never seen the two's infusing right here. Hold on, but just because they ain't saying. No, not no. When you was growing up, you had some twos infuse. And hold on. Y'all ain't never had to take one for the team. Oh, no. Even in your younger year, you ain't never had to take one. I was too good of an athlete. Ocho, you ain't never. I know Ocho ain't took one for the team here. Absolutely not. But I was that boy in high school. What'd I look like? No, we have a homeboy for that. Yeah, we are. That homeboy. Hey, Joe, I was him in high school, Joe. I get there. Yeah, you about taking one. How I'm taking one tonight. What about when you got to college? Oh, definitely. Oh, absolutely not. Come on, Joe. Oh, so y'all got a golden tip, huh? No. Y'all got a platinum tip. Hey, Joe, it's so funny you said that. It's so funny you said that, Joe. They used to call me golden. You call me golden. They used to call me golden in college. They used to call me golden. Ocho, you know what Joe asked me this question? You know Joe, that guy took a couple of blows. Yeah. Joe took a couple of blows. Joe took a couple of blows. He's a crafter. No, I'm saying it may have been some unfortunate situation. I might have had to entertain somebody for you. I mean, like. Yeah, yeah, a little conversation, huh? A little conversation, Rue. OK. Yeah, I get a conversation. Yeah, yeah, but no, no, no. I had a homeboy. I had a homeboy named Misha. He didn't matter. He didn't matter. What came through the door? No, it did not matter. Why? Did not matter. I got some homeboy. Hey, hey, hey, I'm like, hey, damn. I need to keep an occupied. Hey, take me down here. Let me see. Hey, Misha, I need a favor. What's it for you? Hey, show what you need. I said, man, I need your aid. Misha, nobody out there knows. Misha, take one for the team. I'm real true, but to this day, I can I guarantee you, I can call my sister as a Libby. Go find Misha. Hey, I got a ticket for you. Go to the airport. I need you to take one. Misha, get on the plane. No questions asked. Damn. Get on the plane right now. Yeah. Hey, look, we all got some homeboys who didn't take one now because, boy, I didn't see. I didn't see some of my partner come through with some boogaloo. Hey. Woo. So what, some boogaloo? I'm talking about Ocho. I called my partner one morning, boy, that boy was up early in the morning. I'm like, what the hell you doing up so early? Yeah, you're trying to sneak the time out of the house. Just so happened I was up. Boy, I seen that girl come. I said, woo. Boy, y'all be ashamed of yourself. Yeah. Hey, I got a homeboy. I don't call his name because he's watching. They going to be on it. Look here, Ocho. I said, man, you must be a zookeeper because I know you get this one from the zoo. Ain't no way. I'm talking about it might be, let's just say, it's 300 people in there. And out of the 300, they might be, say, let's just say, for the sake of argument, 25, 30 times. Yeah. He going to find the worst looking one and be posted up. And then because, you know, I'm over in the corner. I'm up in the cut. And then he going to come. Hey, I said, look here, man. Meet me at the truck at 12. Don't you come back over here. I'm being at the truck at 12. Don't you come back over here by me. Because I don't want nobody to think. Oh, absolutely. Boy, listen. Boy, I'm talking about, I'm talking about, I don't know what I think of. And I told him, he'll tell you this. I say, all the women in here, you pick. Hey. Oh. Bring him to Denver. He come to Denver. It's the exact same thing. I'm like, you know you don't have to do this, though, right? You know why they do it? Hey, they want somebody with low self-esteem, man. Hey. I understand low, but no. No, I'm good. It's mutual. Ocho, with the World Cup coming up, we're going to see y'all at a game. If not, we're getting some coverage on it. Yes, we're definitely covering. Real football talked about on that count. Yeah, Ocho trying to get me to go to a game now. We're definitely going to cover it. I'm trying to see what's close by. Atlanta. But yeah. Yeah. He's going to be jumping out here. I think they got something. Do they got anything in Vegas? I think they got something. Do they got anything in Vegas? Do they got anything in the Legion Stadium? I know they got something in SoFi. That concludes this episode of Nightcap. I want to thank you guys for watching. I want to very thank our special guests for joining us also. Y'all know who I am. I'm your favorite. That's my partner and co-host, the Fugazi King. A former p- You know what you're- A bingo, a ring of fame, honorary, a former pro bowler and an all pro. He's Chad Ocho-Sico Johnson and the third member of the Big Three, a seven-time NBA All-Star from the Atlanta Hawks. Little Rock, Arkansas native. That is ISO Joe Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed. Wherever you get your podcasts from, thank you guys. Thank you for your support and your continued support. Those looking to purchase a bottle of Shea by La Portier. La Portier. If it's unavailable, any state or city near you, the best tasting, premium, VSOP, cognac on the market. Please, please direct response and stay safe. Want to thank our very special guest? Oh, first of all, the Knicks beat the number, beat the Celtics. 112 to 106, thanks to two dagger threes in the fourth quarter by Josh Hart. He was the lead and scored, scored 15 of his 26 in the fourth. Jaylen Brunson added 25 and 10 as they beat the Boston Celtics 112 to 106. And Kevin, the Red Scores 29 is the Rockets beat the 76ers, 113 to 102. But the six were missing Joel and B who had an emerging emergency appendectomy due to an acute appendicitis. I am very special guest. Join us tonight. Ohio State defensive tackle, Kay McDonald, 6 to 326. All American projected the first round pick. Seemed so excited, full of personality man. We wish him and his family all the best on that big night. Two weeks from Thursday. Again, thank you. Thank you guys for joining us. We greatly, greatly appreciate that. I'm Uncle. He's Ocho. He's Iso. We're off tomorrow, but we'll see you Saturday. Thank you. Peace out.