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7a Telemarketer Send Pix First, Camp Mystic Open Or Not and Mystery Box w Latty 04-15-26

41 min
Apr 15, 20263 days ago
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Summary

The Roula Show discusses Camp Mystic's controversial plan to reopen in summer 2026 following the July 2024 flood that killed 11 girls, with callers divided on whether the camp should reopen or remain closed out of respect for grieving families. The episode also features Special K's telemarketer prank calls and a mystery box segment with new host Ladi.

Insights
  • Community divisions emerge when tragedy intersects with tradition—families with deep multi-generational camp ties clash with those who lost children, creating fractures within the same social circles
  • Regulatory failures preceded the disaster: warning systems were declined, prior flood history (1987) was ignored, and proper emergency protocols weren't established despite known risks
  • Grief timelines vary significantly; some families seek closure through reopening while others cannot process loss when the investigation site remains active and one victim (Seal Steward) remains unfound
  • Media amplification of local tragedy (Houston Chronicle, Daily Mail coverage) extends emotional impact beyond affected communities and keeps pressure on decision-makers
  • Trust in institutional safety is shattered—parents question whether they can trust camp operators with their children's lives after documented failures
Trends
Institutional accountability in youth organizations following preventable tragediesCommunity-driven decision-making in disaster recovery vs. top-down reopening timelinesIntergenerational trauma ripple effects (children showing PTSD symptoms from secondary exposure to tragedy)Regulatory capture and ignored safety warnings in recreational facilitiesSocial media-driven activism around child safety and institutional negligenceGrief-driven litigation as mechanism for accountability when regulatory bodies failCompassion fatigue vs. resilience narratives in post-tragedy community discourse
Topics
Camp Mystic flood tragedy and wrongful death lawsuitChild safety protocols in recreational facilitiesGrief and trauma in affected communitiesRegulatory failures in youth camp operationsCommunity division over institutional reopening timelinesMissing person investigation (Seal Steward)Telemarketing prank calls and social engineeringRadio entertainment and audience engagementLocal media coverage and national amplificationInstitutional trust and accountabilityNatural disaster preparedness and responseIntergenerational camp traditions vs. safety concerns
Companies
Camp Mystic
Youth summer camp that flooded in July 2024, killing 11 girls; currently seeking to reopen for summer 2026 amid ongoi...
Cumulus Media
Parent company of KRBE radio station where the show broadcasts
Houston Chronicle
Local news outlet that covered Camp Mystic testimony and lawsuit developments
Daily Mail
UK-based news organization that amplified Camp Mystic story to international audience
Push and Win Law Firm
Personal injury law firm specializing in 18-wheeler accidents; advertised during episode
Super H Mart
Grocery retailer where mystery box item (monster fruit) was sourced
Toyota Center
Venue hosting Disney's Zombies Camp Rock Collide Concert Tour in December
People
Eric
Primary host leading discussion on Camp Mystic tragedy and community response
Special K
Co-host conducting telemarketer prank calls and participating in mystery box segment
Sam
Co-host participating in Camp Mystic discussion and mystery box segment
Ladi
New Wednesday host who participates in rapid-fire quiz and mystery box segment
Kevin
Participates in Camp Mystic discussion and constructed the mystery box
Jennifer
Caller with connection to Camp Mystic victim family; advocates against reopening
Alicia
Parent with children at other camps; argues for reopening with improved safety measures
Lisa
Caller supporting Camp Mystic reopening; compares to Hurricane Harvey evacuation decisions
Bronya Minkarius
Has advocated for camp safety regulations for 10 years; mentioned as ignored voice before tragedy
Dick Easton
Served on board that kept camp regulations down; mentioned in context of regulatory failures
Edward Eastland
Camp Mystic owner who testified about holding girls during flood; lost family members
Seal Steward
11-year-old girl who died in Camp Mystic flood; remains unfound, driving family's lawsuit
Shiloh Wilson
11-year-old rodeo competitor who died in Camp Mystic flood along with family members
Catherine Ferruzzo
Cabin counselor who died with campers; lacked resources and knowledge for emergency response
Chloe Childress
Cabin counselor who died with campers; lacked resources and knowledge for emergency response
Mayor Turner
Referenced for Hurricane Harvey evacuation guidance; compared to Camp Mystic decision-making
Anthony Push
Sponsor spokesperson advertising personal injury law services for 18-wheeler accidents
Carson Farrell
Telemarketer who became frustrated during Special K's prank call interaction
Quotes
"This is not about resilience. This is about respect. You need to respect your fellow camp family members who are devastated from the loss of their child."
EricMid-episode Camp Mystic discussion
"It's a fracturing of families. It's people that you have lifelong bonds with these families because the girls have become best friends and they've grown into great women who are strong sisters."
EricCamp Mystic caller discussion
"I feel like this is the same thing. They didn't know. They just didn't know because the government, the officials, whoever was supposed to tell them, didn't."
Lisa (Caller)Camp Mystic reopening debate
"I've been screaming about this for 10 years. I've been doing this for 10 years. So we have a lot, a lot."
Eric (referencing Bronya Minkarius)Regulatory failures discussion
"It's a monster fruit! It's a fruit! The fruit brought some fruit!"
EricMystery box reveal
Full Transcript
Hey, this is Anthony Push from the Push and Win Law firm. If you've been injured in an 18-wheeler accident, call us today, 833 Push Win. You can also visit us online, pushwin.com. 104.1 K-R-B-E, a cumulus media station. Good morning, everyone. We ready? Live from the TFC Energy Studio. You're the ruler's show with Eric, featuring Special K and Sam. Okay, Houston, Texas. Special K is about to give us a telemarketing round, but first, let me give you the national keyword that you need to know. So you have a chance at seeing Harry Styles in New York City or in London is a national keyword at 95819. That is the trip text number 95819 that you need to put the word kiss in the text field. K-I-S-S, 95819, Harry Styles and you, could be you. I don't know, let's see what happens. Go, Kev! Spam calls, he answers them all. So, scamy scam. Remember, get part in what you mean by scamy scam? It's Special K's telemarketer turnaround. Well, you have a beautiful voice. Oh yeah, thank you. Everybody's toward me back. On the Ruler's Show with Eric. 104.1 K-R-B-E. This is where the gift comes to us. We have Special K getting those spam calls like we do. We reject them, he welcomes them. At the end of the day, they're more salty. At the end of my day, I guess, and I don't know if it's the end of theirs, but things I'll get a short conversation. Thank you so much for holding. My name is Carson, how are you? Carson, like Carson Daly? No, my name is Carson Farrell. Farrell, like Farrell Chicken? Oh, bitch. Okay. My God, Kevin, we need some parental discretion advice. Whoa, man. Do you need parental discretion advice? Man, that guy was a, he was having a bad day, which makes me happy. I did not feel bad for him. You think it's the end of his day if he's already dropping P-bombs on people? What's the, I wish I knew where they're calling from. I'd like to know what the time is. Yeah, the time difference. Okay, so. Next time you get one, can you ask him, come on, seriously, where are you calling from? The time was short, that was like the shortest thing yet. Yeah. Ladi is back in, because in an hour, we got rapid fire quiz. And Mystery Box coming up too, so. Yes, Mystery Box. He's like, maybe I'll be sick in a few minutes. Okay. Ladi's never been in the Mystery Box, he has no idea what's coming. So, Ladi, a lot of times, these telemarketers will figure out that I have an Instagram and they wanna see it and they wanna trade picks. So, I'm going to, I'm gonna lean into that and see if we can immediately start to trade picks, not waste any time, get straight to the blank and, so this is how it went when they called me, gosh, I'm pretty sure they're trying to sell a funeral. Who knows what they're selling today. Let's have some fun with this. We're gonna bring Jaime in, because, you know, she just woke up too. Can I ask you please, ma'am? How old are you? Well, you're not supposed to ask a lady, but anyway, I will tell you, as long as we don't sell anybody else. All right. All right. Yeah. What is your date of birth? Usually, I ask you to send a Facebook first, but I am actually 57. 57, oh my goodness, your sound is pretty yank. And I believe you make your own decision, right? Yes, I make my own decisions, both professionally and personally, so this is a personal decision. Like I said, I need a Facebook and I need a body pick. What you mean, like? What do you do for my body? You need my pick? Yes, I thought that's what this was. You're calling so that we could hang out? All right. Well, ma'am, actually, we are calling you about new low-cost final expense score. So what you're saying is you look like necrophilia or something like that, or you know that I'm going to die or something? No, no, no, no. Well, I'm not asking you like, I'm not asking you are going to be die. Yeah, but basically, I feel like I've barely only started living life now that I'm free. Yeah, my hair is my product, especially so I'm going to guide you further. Okay, thank you so much for calling me. Here we go. How's your day going so far? Are you doing good? Yes. Who am I speaking to? Yeah, so we just went through that whole thing. Remember when we were talking and you were going to send me a pick first. They're going to start passing me around now. They're going to start playing games with me. They're turning it around. They're turning it around. Oh my God. Here's what happened. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So ma'am, here is my product, especially so going to guide you further. All right. Thank you so much. That other guy was kind of mean and he was yelling at me and I didn't appreciate it. So I like talking to you better. You actually sound way more handsome than the other fellow. All right. So here is my product, especially this is also handsome. Okay. No, but so like what happened was you and I were talking and you're just going to get my age, race, stat, body style, my type, my position, which is versatile. Obviously yours. Oh my gosh. Hello. Always happens. Oh my goodness. That's how you know you're getting recorded. Yes. Or someone else is coming on the line. Is that blue? They're transferring you. All right. Don't forget, Special K does the Trump call on Fridays. Go to krve.com forward slash prank call requests so that you can fill the short form and then he can prank somebody in your life. Now coming up next, we are going to have a conversation that is a serious conversation because what I would like to know is how you are feeling Houston. I want to get your pulse on what's happening in the last couple of days of testimony of Kemp Mystic. As you know, last July four was devastating for the entire state of Texas. But for many people here in Houston who are affected by the floods of Kemp Mystic that took 11 Houston girls lives, 27 total, heavens 27. And the families are suing Kemp Mystic because Kemp Mystic is trying to reopen for summer 2026. A lot of people don't know about this. And you did this in our news. Yesterday. And the Houston Chronicle picked up on that because obviously you're emotional. From everyone is when you hear the story and you obviously have friends that are affected by this. Like you said, which made really hit home. It's like less than a mile from our radio station right here, there's families at lost. There's an empty chair at their table. There's an empty bed in their house. A room that's never gonna change in time. They picked that up. And then overnight, the Daily Mail, which is a big website, big UK product, they picked it up as well. Put a big article on the show and what you were talking about, which is great because it brought up the court case and put it in the forefront again. So people reading this over in other countries too in the States will see this and go, oh, this is going on because that's the worst thing you don't wanna ever be forgotten. To forgotten. When a tragedy happens, people forget. And the people that are living in the middle of the hell of it have to suffer every day. And the testimony of the Eastland family in the last two days has not just reopened the wound, the wound never closed. It is like being shot again in the same spot where you were shot. And it's unbelievable. And this is the dynamic that I, Eric, can't wrap my brain around. I'm having a very hard time. I'm very distressed by the division of families, the fracturing of mystic families that some of them are so hard pressed that absolutely their girls are going back to mystic this summer, it has to reopen. And others are like, seal steward is still missing. That is still an investigation field. How can you have children frolicking along the Guadalupe or whatever the area is away from the river? It's still the entire plane is an investigation field. So 833-390-KRBE. I'm very curious to know your point of view, whether you have somebody close to you that was affected by it, or you are just a Houstonian with a heart that can't help it. Yesterday when I did that's new story, Eric, somebody texted us, she has been in therapy over the camp mystic deaths. And she's never been to camp mystic. She doesn't know anybody connected to camp mystic. That's how gut-wrenching this story is. Those families, when there's a storm, these Texas storms, the last few years. The little boys from La Junta, thank God, every single one of them survived. But I know families whose little boys in the first rainstorm in Houston that happened after they got back, were climbing the bookshelves and looking at the ceiling to see where am I going to hang from in case our house gets rushed away. So this is the ripple effect of this has been so devastating. And it could be families that they went to camp mystic their whole life for generations. And they want to keep it going. We want to hear both sides. Yeah, I just want to know the pulse. I want to know what the majority of people thinking. I do want to know the pulse. What's your pulse, Houston? 833-390-KRVE. Let us know next on The Ruler Show with Eric. It's K-R-V-E. Well, let's go. The Ruler Show with Eric. All right, ladies and gentlemen, we are opening our phone lines at 833-390-KRVE, where I want to get a pulse on our audience regarding Camp Mystic. It's been in the top of the news now for the last couple of days because of the testimony in the lawsuit, the families versus the camp, the owners of the camp, the Eastland family. And what went wrong and how wrong it went. There are a lot of people that would say, well, how's the natural disaster? But in natural disasters, there has to be a plan. When I am going to give you my child at daycare to go to work, my plan is that you will care for my child. And if there is a fire, you are going to know how to get the children out of the building and not ride. And lose them. They're on the river. I mean, flash flooding does happen. So you should have a plan. You own a camp next to a river that historically had flooded years ago. In 1987, there was a flood. So there's been a very deep battle that has raged, whether you have paid attention to that or not. But the last two days, the whole nation is looking at what's happening on the stand in Austin over the battle of Camp Mystic. What did the sun? They applied for a license to reopen for summer 2026 in the higher ground area of the camp, not the area where bubble in and all those areas that were the girls that didn't survive were. And what did the sun say for the Eastland family? He said a lot that they did not get, he wished they didn't have camp last year. And a number of the Eastland family members are either going to testify or have testified or eight. Two of them have. Now, the father passed away in the flood. And Edward said, at one point, he did have two girls in his arms and one on his back before they were taken away by the floodwaters. He does not know if one of those girls was Seal Steward. He doesn't know if Seal Steward was one of the girls that was gripping the tree. I'm really going to try hard to get through this segment because when you really have to let your brain connect with your heart of what those children went through in the dark of those floods. Why they were there? They were there to have fun. Best time of their lives. The best time of their lives. The family battle is that because Seal Steward still has not been found. And let's be real, she might never be found. But I have talked to 9-11 families. I have talked to people who've been major tragedies. And the families of the 9-11 victims were happy to even get a scrap of their person back to be able to have a closure. You just want to have closure to your loved one. Whatever of Seal can be found, that's what the Steward family wants. But how can it happen if you've opened camp and all these children are doing activities over an area that maybe something could be found? So that is the debate. It's interesting to see so many different ways of thinking where people will text like right now, put up a memorial and then the camp should reopen. But when? I just feel like this year or next year. Yeah, I just feel like why does it have to be this year? Especially if you have so many families that if you, from what I know of Camp Mistake. But then there's families rule of that. They've been going every year and this is their child's last year to go there. And they want them to have that experience. But I mean, after what happened last year, how do you even go back? I couldn't even imagine. Even if it's on the higher ground and you're looking, that's where you lost your friends. And Eric, a lot of times in families and camps, you are a camp family. You all have each other's back. It is a special bond and relationship. That's the part that really is hard for me to understand because if you are that deeply connected to the other families that went there, you know those families are suffering. So why wouldn't you? Okay, let's go to the phones. A-3-3-3-9-0-K-R-V-E. Jennifer is up first. Hi Jennifer, good morning. Hi, how are y'all? Hi Jennifer. Well, you know, it's a tough day Jennifer because we're reading a lot of stuff about the testimony at Kint Mystic. Tell me how you feel about it. What side of this coin are you on? Oh, I definitely do not think they should open at all. Ever again. Ever again, okay. Ever again, not even just wait. No. You just never want them to open again. No, no. Tell me, do you have a connection to the camp Jennifer? Kind of sort of. I had a coworker that I was working with at the time. She was very close with this family that all passed away in the flood. And I remember the things that were going on during the couple of days that they were trying to, the father was found first, then the wife was found, and then the son who was 11 was found, I think like four days later, something like that. And they found his saddle first because he was there for some kind of rodeo or something. I don't remember exactly. Right, I remember the story, yes. Yeah, and they found him and it was, I mean, it was just so devastating. But the procedure that they failed to go through for all of this, and they kept saying, everything was fine, everything was fine. And then, you know, it wasn't. No, I don't, they didn't go through the proper procedures, especially when there's children involved. People's one thing, but children's a whole another, right? And I just, no, no, I don't. I mean, if they ever reopened, they need a lot of proper training and different license. I don't know, something, but just to reopen like this, no, and just on different grounds of whatever, on a higher thing, like, no, no, I'm sorry, I don't. It was Shiloh Wilson that you're speaking of, the little boy who was a rodeo competitor, Shiloh Wilson. Yes, yes, you're absolutely right. That was his name, yes. And his family died. And it was, yes, his family died. My coworker was extremely close to them. I mean, it affected her very much, though. I mean, you would have thought that would have been her own son. And it was rough. It was very, very rough. And I feel for everybody that went through that, I can't imagine being in that situation and anything like that, especially when I'm saying like the procedures and everything were not followed or were not, they were poorly handled and a very, very, just, very reckless. They just neglected it. Yeah, neglected. I mean, it was just horrible. I mean, how they, they're open this less than a year and think about, they have to get everything ready and built and changed, you know. And Eric, what? So eight months later, you're just gonna say you're ready to go? No, no. And how do you tell your kids, you're gonna go like somebody even texted that, how do you tell your kids, hey, you're gonna go back to camp right there. And how do you explain that? I would like to hear from somebody, if they're willing to come in who has a child that wants to go back or they want their girls to go back because there are plenty of them that want that. And I've not heard specifically from a family that is sending a daughter back or wants to make sure the camp does open this summer so they can have their daughters back there. This is not about resilience. This is about respect. You need to respect your fellow camp family members who are devastated from the loss of their child. That should be it. Devastated from the bedroom that's never gonna age. You're right. Every time we do a little spring break or something, I always think of the parents of those girls if they do have other children, you have to be a parent for the other ones. You gotta live life, but the hole in your heart has been blown open or you lost your only daughter in that flood. And here you are watching people saying, oh, it was a natural disaster. Let him go back to camp. I've not heard from anybody on that side to open my eyes. I just feel like if you lost your child there, you should have the vote to those 27 campers family should be the ones that say it should be open or not. I think so too. 833-390-KRBE. Okay, four. Let me go. How about another name? It's on the, put it on hold. Yeah, we're working on it. We also have texts that people are saying it should be open. There's over ABC News ran a story that said 800 people have enrolled. It's the text that we're getting. Oh, 900 is the story I saw. But yeah, it's a lot, a lot. So I mean. Alicia's on the phone. Let's get her opinion. Hi, Alicia. Good morning. Welcome to the Rula Show with Eric. Hi, good morning. Good morning. Can you give me your point of view, Alicia? And then for those listening that don't understand the determination to get it reopened this summer, this summer. Well, my opinion is I have kids that go to another camp in the area. It's called Shoe Yay. And it's kind of similar to Mystic. And as a parent, it kind of hits me differently. Like when that happened, my kids were actually at camp at the same time that it happened. And it was very devastating as a parent to like, you know, think that your child could be in that circumstance. But I think that it should reopen. I think that they need to grow from it and learn from it. But going to camp is just so important to these kids. It just means so much. And I think that we should continue to give them those experiences. But I do think that, you know, the things that they didn't do right, that they should try to learn from that. But I do think that we should be able to give them the opportunity to reopen and not close it down completely. I know that a lot of people are operating in anger. And that just seems like when I hear what the people have to say about it, I think they're just very angry. But I think that we can continue and try to find a path forward to allow these kids to continue to have those experiences. Would you would you agree with letting the families that lost their child that day, let them decide like if it should be over or not? I feel like those parents have them should make the call. Yeah, they haven't 27 parents. They've put ultimate sacrifice. I mean, absolutely. Like you would want to take into consideration how they're feeling. Like I think like, you know, just like personally, like I literally have kids who do this like every single year. Like how would I feel if this happened to my children? And it sounds like there was a little bit of like things that can't miss it needed to have done better. But it also was a natural disaster too. So I would think that the parents could offer insight and talk about what they think should have been handled differently. I think maybe like some kind of collaboration with them and talk to them. But just say no, it should never be opened again, ever again, because this tragedy happened. That's the knee-jerk reaction. And that's coming from anger and hurt. I just feel like maybe the least this year, I'm like give them one year because God forbid, they have a big flash flood again, a storm. Imagine the freak out everyone's going to have at that camp. Even if they're out in higher ground, that's, I mean, it's in everyone's minds at least for the first year. Alicia, how do you feel about the Seale-Steward family's point of view? Their daughter has never been found. They've never been able to put her to rest. And the reason this whole trial is happening is they have filed a wrongful death lawsuit against Camp Mystic and the owners. Because they're trying to stop the camp from opening since they feel that that entire area is still under investigation. It is an investigation area. How do you have kids? It's like any crime scene in Houston, you're not allowed to penetrate the crime scene until the cops are done with it. They're not done with it. So what is your problem? I mean, I don't know if the camp is completely, a totally liable, because there is also some declining of funds that could have provided for a warning system. So the money was there to put those warning signs up, warning signals up, and that money was not taken. It was declined. And so who are the people who said no to that? I'm mad at them too. And maybe they should be held liable too. And no one talks about that part. Yeah, maybe they should not be making decisions moving forward if they can't even take it. It doesn't matter where the money came from. Unfortunately, that's how it went with this. But this could have helped these kids. And I do know that the camp is also somewhat liable as well. We have a lot of people on both sides of it. But, Ruella, I understand where you're coming from. I just try to understand, Kevin. I'm trying to understand how do you look in the face of a mom and a dad or a sibling? Because they don't. It's a tomb. A lot of people don't. A lot of people don't. Camping on. They won't look at them. They won't think about them. I don't think they're thinking about them. But Eric, I'm talking about as a mystic supporter. You're a mystic supporter. You guys have lived an experience on that camp that has kept that camp open for generations. And people are steadfast in their support for that camp. How is one of those families? Are you looking at the other family where they lost their child? And you were just lucky that you didn't lose yours. I'm just saying this is too soon. That's what I'm trying to understand. It's too soon. Yeah, I feel like it's OK if they wait one summer. I mean, that's another debate to say if they should ever reopen. But let me tell you something. There are going to be some sort of like documentaries and movies made about mystic, just like with any other tragedy. Because we tend to go to it like it's called the train wreck for a reason. You're looking at a train wreck, right? People are so invested in others who aren't really invested. And they're like, hey, what happened there? Oh my god, that's so devastating. So I don't I feel so deeply on this. Because like I said yesterday, we are one mile away from families who are struggling. I see those green ribbons around trees still on the drive to KRBE in the morning. I see the signs. On Gessner, there are trees. Yes, you see the green heart in their front. Yards in Breyer Grove right behind Sundinski Sports in that neighborhood. There are tons of trees still with the green ribbons because that's one of the nerve centers of some of the kids that were lost there. So I'm so devastated by the whole thing. And I feel so terribly for the family that has to fight within their own mystic family. Like one of the moms said, it's a fracturing of families. It's people that you have lifelong bonds with these families because the girls have become best friends and they've grown into great women who are strong sisters. But it's the same people they're saying, no, we want to go back this year for resilience. No, it's respect. It's apparent I'd be like, well, they lost the child. I'd be like, well, you're lucky. Your child can go back. Yes, your child gets the chance to go back. That was the last place they were at. And it's not. And like I said yesterday, it's not just the way they pass away. It's the way they passed away. And you trust the Eastland family. You trust these people to protect your kids. Right now, they've not proven it. I don't trust them. And I think, Eric, your daughter has been to camp. That happens again. God forbid it happens again. How are you parents going to feel if something happened like that? Look, your daughter went to camp. My kids went to camp. I've sent my kids twice. Last year, I was out of town when this happened. And when we came back to Houston, I felt like this was a funeral. Like the vibe of Houston last year when I got back from my trip, it was a funeral vibe. It was very dark and it was very sad. And anybody who went to any camp felt that because you're thinking, oh, my god. No, really? I sent them for one of the best summers of their life. And look what's happening. Like I'm scared. That's when the question's coming. I never thought to ask, are there walkie-talkies in the cabin at night when the kids are there? Oh, right. It's a disconnection zone, Kev. You're not supposed to have your cell phone. That's where kids go to disconnect from all the everyday media, right? And scrolling on their phones. No phones at camp because it's all about being outside and making bonds. And I'd even think about that to say, oh, my god. What happens at night when you're in the cabins with that one counselor? Do you guys have phones in there? If there's an emergency, if there's a fire, if there's a flood? Can they even get insurance on that camp? That's true. That's a whole nother level of things. Let me get Lisa on the phone. Lisa, hi. Welcome to The Rural Show there. Good morning. Hi, good morning. So you are outside the coin that should open. You want it to open this summer. OK, yes. I look at it a little bit differently because I heard another interview from some spokesperson, whatever. So I look at it like this. This camp, they said, is not the same camp that flooded, even though they have the Cherokee Mystic. It's a different camp. It's the same grounds. It's just higher grounds. It's not the one right there by the Guadalupe. Correct. And it's kind of just a different camp. And they're the ones that are opening. But I also felt like it was just like for us with Harvey. When Mayor Turner looked straight at the TV and told all of us, do not evacuate. He said that. I stared at him when he said that. He said, it's not going to be as bad as they're saying. Do not evacuate. And what happened? We were watching the fight that night. We were all flooded in. I felt like this is the same thing. They didn't know. They just didn't know because the government, the officials, whoever was supposed to tell them, didn't. And by the time they did know, just like us, we were walking outside the waters here. And they didn't know. And I also feel like the one point of view is the survivors, girls, might need closer themselves. They are also traumatized. So going back might give them a little closer themselves. But what I'm just saying, the closure, then all of a sudden these storms hit. I mean, how do you? Like, I don't want to go down to the river. I don't want to go down to the river. We're going, that's where my good friend just died less than a year ago. And I'm playing in it. Something like that makes my. And that would be up to each parent to know if their child could handle that or not, or if they need that closure or not. You have a eight-year-old child. You have trusted the Eastlands to take care of your eight-year-old to make the decision. They have run that camp for so many decades. They've seen all the floods. When they knew it was starting to rise, what was the choice? I was hoping, I was hoping, Lisa, that the canoe story was fake. I was hoping it was fake. It's not fake. They went to go move the canoes. Instead of getting the counselors or getting on the speaker system, at least, to say, it's worse than we think, run to higher ground. I know it was 1 o'clock in the morning. I know it was dark. It's terrifying. And in the past, like, OK, just stay where you are, because it's probably worse. But when that water comes rushing in, you have to break out windows to get out. But you've told them to stay in. The Eastland family is responsible. That's what a lot of the people that are anti-camp mystic are saying. It was there. It happened in 1987. So it's not like it's never happened before. Oh, wow. Correct. It happened in 1987. I didn't know that. Because you can watch those videos. They didn't learn then. That's what I'm saying. It's a tough one. I hear what you're saying about the Harvey thing. I don't agree with the Harvey thing, because Mayor Turner cannot control each one of our own houses. In the camp mystic situation, these families paid for their daughters to be under the care of people they trusted with their lives. And when they saw what was happening, they needed to do everything they could to get those kids out. Catherine Ferruzzo and Chloe Childress as camp counselors of that cabin were like, they were not given the resources and the knowledge to know what to do to get those little girls out. And all of them died together. It's just devastating. And it's going to continue on. But I just want you to have a little bit of compassion in your hearts when you think about that. If you are hard pressed on the side of, let them go back and get their closure. What's the harm in waiting one year? Have some compassion for the people that cannot breathe every day, because they've been devastated by the loss of their child. Give them that at least. Exactly. If that's what they want, give them that. Yes, please, please. Just let's all be kind and human. They'll never have closure. And compassionate. So if you all want to know the list of lines, 713-278-VENT. That's 8368. There are a lot more details that we can battle on and rage on in debate. And you can read them yourself, because Dick Easton was on the board to keep some of the regulations down. Bronya Minkarius has been battling the camp regulations for years. And nobody was listening to them, the Crime Stoppers. And all of a sudden now the mystic floods happened. And everyone's like, oh, let's talk to Rania about what we can do for regulation. She's like, great. I've been doing this for 10 years. I've been screaming about this. So we have a lot, a lot. And summer is coming. You've got to start making your plans now of what you're going to do. So thank you very much for your information, guys, and your opinions. Now I'm going to try to pivot. We're going to make a pivot here. Latte. Latte's here. Latte's here in the studio. Hi, Latte. Hi. OK. Latte is new to KRBE. And he started working on our show on Wednesdays because we like the way he does the rapid-fire quiz. He's a Houston boy. Grew up here and moved to Memphis. Yep. And he's back again. And he realized Memphis sucks. I've got to get that. No. OK. Made a brand new mystery box. I was in it last week. And now whoever loses the rapid-fire quiz, I mean, I'm sorry, whoever wins the rapid-fire quiz, their winner on the phone gets to pick which one of us goes in the box. Latte was chosen by my winner last week to go in the mystery box. He's like, I didn't even play. So let's do it. He doesn't know what we know about the mystery box. So we'll inform you. Latte will go in it. And then after that, we'll do the rapid-fire quiz on The Rural Show with Eric and KRBE. The NFL Draft presented by Bud Light is coming to Pittsburgh. And it's your chance to witness the future of the game for free from April 23 to April 25. Feel the energy of the NFL Draft. See the Vince Lombardi trophy and Super Bowl rings. Meet NFL players and legends. Enjoy interactive games and live music performances. And be there as the future of the NFL takes center stage. The NFL Draft starts April 23. 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And we have now implemented a new rule that whoever wins that quiz, the contestant on the line gets to choose which one of us in the room is going to go in the mystery box. I had already gone in the mystery box, so I was not a contender last week. And my contestant won. She chose Ladi to go in the box. Ladi, how are you feeling? Oh, first off, I'm not even a contestant. I'm in the game. OK, next up, I'm the one who hosts the game. Welcome to our world. I guess they were a fan of your hosting that week. Yeah, you're part of it. I've never joined a fraternity, but I feel I'm about to get hazed by that. This is what's going on. OK, so here's how it's going to work. You have to leave the room so we can tell the audience what's in the box. And then you will be led back into the room. And then you'll have to put your hands in the box that you can't see. Now, Special K built a brand new box. It's Barney Purple. Yeah, you painted it. Love the color. And a variety of things have been in this box in the past. Let me just give you a little scoop. I don't want to hit him. I don't want to hit him. We've had animals. We've had fire. We've had diapers. Fire? We've had fire. They put fire in there for me. Mousetraps. All kinds of stuff. Something with this mumbles. He, Ladiari, pulled shenanigans on us a couple weeks ago. So Kevin's been waiting for this. He did the April Fool's joke. We came in here. We could walk through the balloons. I put balloons in here. You're going to put Sasquatch in here. You're going to put Bigfoot in here. I put balloons. It's all in the box. I've got to go get our guests who have the items. Oh, Lord. When there's a guest, that's extra scary. Oh, God, everything brought something. OK, Ladi is going out of the room. Good luck. Ladi's going to go out of the room. Make sure it shut off in there. Eliminate the radio. Yeah, shut it off. And by the way, we, of course, record everything we do visually as well. So you can always go back to our digital channels to actually visually watch this mystery box go down. But otherwise, you're going to hear it. Behind the scenes, he's like, oh, is it live? Is it this, this, this? I'm like, I'm not going to tell you. Close the door, Sam, so we can tell the audience. Here comes the box. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Wow, that box looks really nice. Yeah, good job. Bravo. You're still under construction. As you know, I'm like a real contractor. It's going to take me actually six weeks. Not the one I quoted you originally. Yeah, the Plexi Glass front is supposed to be there, but it didn't fall off or something. Yes, I'm on my second Plexi Glass window. The first one, I cracked. The second one, it had a scratch on it. So we're getting closer, guys. Well, I just love that you make it for real. Looks great. Rula, I don't know if you can see it, but I put in the cute little, yes, the cute little leather openings on the side. You'll see it on our at KRBE Instagram. Looks great. It looks great. I placed the item in here, which I got from Super H Mart. OK, this is called a monster fruit. Now, if you've never seen a monster fruit, it's about the size of two poms put together and it has these spikes all over it. It looks like an alien fruit. Kevin and I have been talking about this for like 12 years because we went to a dinner with somebody that took us out. It was a fancy dinner. And we're like, we just want to go to a steak place. He took us to some weird place and the dessert was this thing with spikes cut open. We're like, this is gross. With leaches and rum dootons. I heard you guys complain about that dinner for years. Worst dinner ever. What was that stupid spike thing they gave us? Where was the steak and where were the brownies? So Kevin found one, but he's not going to cut it open. It's spiking. I would like to try it maybe next Tuesday. Oh, my God. There you go. Because they're very expensive. They're $10 a pound. Oh, dang. Yes. Whoa, yes. $10 a pound. It's called monster fruit. They're alien fruits. OK, we're running out of time. We got to get him in here. I'm going to say nothing. He will come in blindfolded. And actually, like last week, I didn't really need the blindfold, but it's kind of more fun that way. So he's blindfolded. He's going to walk in here. He will go behind the box just to visualize since it's radio. He will be behind the box. We can see inside the box that is in front of him. He cannot, of course, also just for safe measure. He's blindfolded just in case. So the curse button only works a little bit, Lattie. So don't curse. You're a pro. Don't do anything crazy. Yeah. It is the mystery box on the Rula show with Eric and 104.1K. Don't do anything crazy. I know, doesn't it? How fast is your heart racing? Because there's nothing worse than not knowing what's in that box. My heart is jumping out of my chest right now. And that blindfold is not doing you any favors. It's cross-eyes. And this is hilarious. Hold on. Let me fix my hat for this. There you go. Perfect. OK. Our guests are so excited to be here. And to see this in person. Thank you so much for bringing this item. Yes, thank you guys. We're so excited. OK. Shout out to you some zoo. Thank you. Yee! When you're- You're kidding me. You're kidding me, dude. Is it moving? Oh, my God. You've got to do it quick before this thing leaves. OK, you've got to put your hand out the box. OK. I'm so scared right now. Like, I'm not scared, but like, oh, my gosh, I don't. It sucks. It's that fun. I don't want it to be live because I don't want to actually kill it. I don't want to. OK. Just so we can see. I don't want to kill it. Do not squeeze too hard, please. Yeah. When you feel it. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't promise. I can't promise. I'm sorry. Whoever you are, I'm so sorry about the destroyer. Come on. Come on. The hands have to go in the box now. At least it touched the box. There you go. There's the box. Yes. OK. OK. Hands on top of the box so far. Not into the side holes yet. I'm so, I'm so nervous right now. Like, let me tell you something, dude. I'm so nervous right now, dude. I think it's very attractive. Put your hands in the box. And like, I think it's attractive. I don't want to do it. What's in the box? What's in the box? Yeah. I'm seriously, dude, like, this is like my worst nightmare because I'm. I'm. Just put your hands. You're going to be OK. You're going to be OK. Just put your hands. At least put your hands in the box. Yeah, to give you breath. And we will have it not move. It's attractive to palm sweat. So I hope your palms aren't sweaty. I. Yeah. Mom's spaghetti. Palms are sweaty. All right, let's go. Here we go. Come on, Lyle. He's going in the box. He's wiping his hands like in incanto. Oh, yeah. He wipes her hands and then the door goes away. He's like, what happened? Now, you can just, you know, touch it lightly. So put your hands in the side. Touch it lightly. Go. Yeah, there you go. There you go. Yes. Keep it shut. When you go in the box. Because the box is big, Lyle. You go in the box and then put your hands down. Because a lot of times we put the hands too high up. Dude, you better put your on that dump button. You better get ready. You better. No, don't do it. You're not putting my hands in something. I don't know what it is. Don't hit the box. Don't hit the box. Don't hit the box. I'm so scared right now. Just do it. Just put your hand in the box. Is this on camera? Please let it be on camera. No. No, it's not. It would do that to you. OK, put your hands at least in the box a little bit. Yeah, you got to do it because we're running out of time too. Take a deep breath. We're taking a breath. He's biting his shirt now. The item is currently in the middle. Currently in the middle. If you go now, it'll still be in the middle. At least you got to put it in. You got to put your hands at least in the box. Dude, I'm so scared right now. You guys, you're a lie. You're a little girl, Dave. Come on, Lyle. Put your hands in the damn box. OK, there. There you go. There you go. Good. Now feel around in there. What is it? Now poke your finger out. Just one finger. OK, OK? Just the tip? Yes. Just the tip. Yeah. OK, just tip. OK, OK. Son of a... OK, careful there. I told you to stop buttoning. Come on, Lyle. Lyle, stick your hand out. Slowly. Just touch it. Just stick it out. I'm going to give you this clue. It does not bite. No, it won't bite. We swear it won't bite you. It does not bite. Just do it. OK. I don't believe you. OK, I mean, I've never seen it. It nibbles. I've never seen it bite. No, it doesn't. It's fine. Just do it. Just do it. OK. We are completely out of time. You got to figure it out. Oh, my God. No. What was that? I touched something. It's about... It's big. Was it a beak? Was it a beak? It was a beak. I touched a beak. It was a hard beak. It was a hard beak. It was a beak. You put it in. There's an animal in there. Just hit it one more time. It's an... Oh, my God. It's an armadillo. It's not an armadillo. It's an armadillo. No. It's not. One more time. It's a big abuse bastard. Your hand's back in there. It's not going to bite you. It won't bite. Don't worry. One more time. It's not going to bite. Don't worry. Just one more time and we'll tell you what it is. Just put your hand in it. I want to, like, grab it. Yeah. Put your hand on it. You got to touch it. OK. Grab it. Touch it. It's a hard... OK. It's a turtle. No! It's a turtle. It's a turtle. Is it a turtle? Don't guess, though. Oh, it's a turtle. Really good guess. No, no, no. Try it one more time. One more time. Come on. Put your, like, whole palm on it. You just want me to get bit. You just want me to bite. It doesn't bite. It doesn't bite. Put your palm on it. Yeah, just put your palm. Like, hold it. You can open your palm. OK. You can hold it. You can hold it. OK. Now put your palm on it. There you go. You feel anything? Oh, yeah. Is it cold? Is it warm? Yeah. What is it? What's the texture feel like? Is it hard? It feels hard. OK. It feels, no, it's lukewarm. OK. Is it sharp or is it smooth? Yeah. It's smooth. OK. But moving around, then. Maybe you're a party. Moving around! Can you pick it up? I'm not going to try to pick it up. Pick it up. Softly? Yeah. Oh! Oh! Save it! I hate you! Oh! Show it to him. He's in the middle of it. Show it to him. It's a hard, it's a. OK. OK. I'm going to go and move him. I wanted to pick it up. We don't have time for another time. There's nobody in here. It's a monster fruit! It's so embarrassing. He is so smooth. It's a monster fruit! It's a monster fruit! It's a fruit! The fruit brought some fruit! Yay! It's a monster fruit! Now you can touch it. Are you crying? We made somebody cry. He's crying! Are you crying or am I crying? Oh my god, Lottie, are you OK? I'm going to get this red-fire quiz going. I'm speechless for the first time. There we go. Good job. Great job. It's a monster fruit. It's actually called the monster fruit. We just like to add a little. If there's no one here. It's prickly. I can't believe you thought it was smooth. It's almost spikes. Y'all are good. Yeah! It's nice. It's nice. Good job, Lottie. All right. Now what we need Houston is four contestants on the line. 833-390-KRBE. If you're OK, RBE, if you or somebody in your world loves the Zombies Camp Rock Disney's Collide concept, that tour is coming to Toyota Center December 2nd. And we've got four tickets for Disney World's Collide Concert Tour at Toyota Center. 833-390-KRBE. Rapid Fire Quiz next on KRBE. Good job, Lottie. Oh my gosh. There's been this trend of people going, oh, it's so cool. Follow my taxes in August. It's so awesome. Don't worry. I have an extension. It'll be fine. I'll like totally do it later. Stop. Do your friggin' taxes now. That was a really good fashion voice. Did you like it? You do that more frequently, please? 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