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Life After Death - Best of Coast to Coast AM - 5/12/26

20 min
May 13, 202618 days ago
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Summary

Coast to Coast AM host George Noory interviews author Sandra Champlain about evidence for life after death, including near-death experiences, deathbed visions, terminal lucidity, and electronic voice phenomena. Champlain, a former skeptic, discusses how she transformed her fear of dying into a mission to document verifiable afterlife evidence through her book, podcast, and YouTube channel.

Insights
  • Former skeptics can become the most credible messengers for paranormal topics due to their understanding of skeptical objections and ability to bridge believer-skeptic divides
  • Deathbed visions and terminal lucidity in hospice patients represent some of the most verifiable and comforting evidence of afterlife existence, supported by medical professionals like Dr. Christopher Kerr
  • Children's near-death experiences and terminal lucidity accounts are particularly compelling because they lack prior conditioning or knowledge about death, making their descriptions of deceased relatives and angelic beings more credible
  • The quantum physics perspective that all matter is 'invisible vibrating energy' provides a scientific framework for understanding how the afterlife could coexist as a different energy wavelength in the same space
  • Personal transformative experiences (like the race car driver's NDE) can fundamentally alter life perspective and reduce existential fear, potentially improving quality of life and performance
Trends
Growing mainstream acceptance of afterlife research through medical professionals and hospice workers documenting deathbed phenomenaIncreased podcast and digital content production focused on paranormal and afterlife topics as alternative spirituality gains audienceShift from purely religious frameworks to scientific/quantum physics explanations for spiritual phenomena to appeal to secular audiencesRising interest in terminal lucidity and deathbed visions as comfort-focused end-of-life care topics in hospice industryContent creators leveraging personal transformation narratives (skeptic-to-believer) as credibility mechanism in paranormal mediaIntegration of near-death experience research with child psychology and development studies for validation purposesExpansion of paranormal podcast networks as dedicated distribution channels separate from traditional radioUse of quantum mechanics and physics concepts to legitimize metaphysical claims in popular media
Companies
iHeartRadio
Distributes Coast to Coast AM, Shades of the Afterlife paranormal podcast network, and multiple other shows mentioned
Carnivora
Supplement brand featured in mid-roll ad promoting immune system support with testimonial from Nelson, New Zealand fa...
People
Sandra Champlain
Guest discussing her book 'We Don't Die' and research on afterlife evidence including NDEs and deathbed visions
George Noory
Host conducting interview with Sandra Champlain about afterlife evidence and spiritual phenomena
Christopher Kerr
Cited for research on deathbed visions studying 1,600-1,700 hospice patients; wrote 'Death is But a Dream'
Melvin Morse
Cited for extensive research on near-death experiences in children and their descriptions of afterlife encounters
Malachi Gregory
8-year-old featured in Carnivora supplement testimonial discussing recovery from severe wart outbreak
Stephen Gregory
Father of Malachi Gregory providing testimonial about son's health improvement using Carnivora supplement
Quotes
"I didn't want to be fascinated by the afterlife. I had developed a huge fear of dying back in the mid-90s that wouldn't go away."
Sandra ChamplainEarly in interview
"No one dies alone. The great hospice doctor, Christopher Kerr, he wrote a book called Death is But a Dream. And there's a documentary out about him."
Sandra ChamplainMid-interview
"He said he was more alive than he feels here on Earth. He said his grandmother and grandfather were there to greet him, and he said they were incredibly real, and it made this life seem like it was just the dream."
Sandra ChamplainRace car driver NDE account
"When we start looking from that perspective, yeah, of course the afterlife can be real, right? Our cell phones can pick up all the information not all but lots of information in the world why can't our human minds connect with something in the invisible space it's all possible"
Sandra ChamplainLate interview
"I say life is an illusion. I mean, it's a pretty darn good one. But if all we are is invisible vibrating energy, and if you think of it, two or more forms of energy can be at the same place at the same time."
Sandra ChamplainQuantum physics discussion
Full Transcript
This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy. Not quite. On Humor Me with Robert Smigel and friends, me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guests, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel help an acapella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to Humor Me with Robert Smigel and friends on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Life is full of hurdles, so how do you keep going? On Hurdle with Emily Abadi, we're talking with the most inspiring woman in sports and wellness, from professional athletes, coaches, and Olympic champions, about the challenges that shape them and the mindset that keeps them moving forward. At our level, at this scale, being able to fail in front of the entire world. Like, I can do anything. I can do anything. 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Listen to Superhuman on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Now, here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio. And welcome back to Coast to Coast. George Norrie with you, Sandra Champlain with us, author of the international bestseller, We Don't Die, A Skeptic's Discovery of Life After Death. She's also the host of the Shades of the Afterlife, iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. And along with her We Don't Die YouTube channel, Sandra has more than 800 unique episodes about the evidence of the afterlife. And here she is back on Coast to Coast. Ms. Champlain, how are you? Oh, George, I'm so happy to be here. Thank you. I'm great. What was it that got you fascinated by the afterlife? Well, I didn't want to be fascinated by the afterlife. I had developed a huge fear of dying back in the mid-90s that wouldn't go away. So it had me very secretly just start looking, is there any evidence out there that can calm my fears? And I studied major world religions and a little bit of this, a little bit of that. Ended up taking some incredible courses, including a medium course. course. And out of my own brain, I was thinking I was just using my imagination, but I was giving people evidence about their loved ones, exact things, names, what they look like. And even though I didn't go on to be a medium, it just kind of cracked open the door. What else is there? And so it just led me on this road of adventure. Were you skeptical in the beginning? Kind of a non-believer? I was a non-believer, absolutely. I wasn't quite an atheist. I always thought there must be something, because if we're here, you know, it just makes sense that there's some kind of a divine something that put it all together. But I guess I'd say I was agnostic about what's really out there. But I was kind of a nasty skeptic, if I can say that, George. My parents, Great people, great people. Dad's passed. In fact, my dad passed 16 years ago yesterday. So he's quite the big reason that I have such a loud voice for the afterlife. I had told him some of the things that I believed in just before he passed. And he made me promise that I tell as many people as possible that I write a book. And so I'm grateful that I'm here. But back to the skepticism, we grew up like you have to see it to believe it. And there was a psychic in a small town I grew up in who had this prediction that the Maid of the Mist boats that's under the Niagara Falls that would capsize with a boatload of deaf children. Right? Terrible prediction. Never happened. And that was just one of those things, kids, you've got to see it to believe it. That stuff isn't real. So I would go to a bookstore. I would go into the New Age section. I'd see people reading all these spiritual things. And I really felt sorry for them. Like they need to get a life because there's no evidence of that stuff. So for me to be the one sharing this message, I think I'm the perfect messenger because I know just what a hardcore skeptic is. And that was me. And if a skeptic came your way today or maybe calls you next hour on the program, what would you tell them in terms of evidence that the afterlife exists? Well, that's a good question. Now, there's two kinds of skeptics, George. There's an open-minded skeptic, which I believe that would be kind of the person who's interested, maybe has a fear of dying or they've lost a loved one. And so I could share, but there's also those closed-minded skeptics that there's nothing you can say that will have me believe that life after death is real. So I don't even touch those kind of skeptics. And I advise people, if people are closed-minded, it's not even worth talking to them. I know someday people, all people, will come to the end of their life or maybe have a loved one pass and start looking for those answers. But if they're closed-minded, there's nothing we can do to open it. But there's worlds of evidence, and I'm so grateful to you and Tom for having shades of the afterlife, because some of my favorite reasons to believe, while people, yes, they can go to mediums and things like that, there's great stories with near-death experiences, not just all near-death experiences, but the verified ones, the ones where there's no way people can see things because their eyes are closed and they have flatlined. or blind people that have never seen before can see. There's wonderful stories of terminal lucidity, people that are virtually brain dead or have severe Alzheimer dementia All of a sudden they regain full brain capacity and they can talk to their loved ones And they're actually seeing people that are as real as you and I showing up at their bedside. And these are deceased people. These are their parents and grandparents and pets looking young and healthy. Again, there's verifiable evidence there. there's things like induced after death communication therapy. There's EVPs, electronic voice phenomena. There's a whole world. And I am so excited that I get to explore them and share them because once people really start, I don't want to say doing the work, but following the passion, if there's something there that they're interested in, a whole world opens up and there's plenty of scientists and doctors that are studying it. But I think our humanness, our skeptical side, which it's good to be skeptic because, you know, there are things out there that we shouldn't believe. But when we're open, when we have that openness and we start to study this, the stories are endless of the things people experience and the verifiable information. So that's the kind of stuff I love. what would you say Sandra if you had to pick one form of evidence just one to convince somebody about the afterlife what would that be just one I don't want to pick just one but I would go with my personal favorite because I'm getting older you know I just turned 60 I know I'm not old but you know that's not I know I know it's not old as a kid I thought it was old But it's the deathbed visions right now that really comfort me. Absolutely no one dies alone. The great hospice doctor, Christopher Kerr, he wrote a book called Death is But a Dream. And there's a documentary out about him. And he studied either 1,600 or 1,700 people in hospice in their final weeks, months, days, et cetera. and people dream and sometimes these dreams they have their eyes wide open and they see in the room people like i said just like you and i alive young and right there saying we're taking you home we're going on a trip pack your bags and sometimes they see people that they didn't even know were deceased Some people have loved ones who pass and they themselves are near the end of their life. And their loved ones don't want to say, hey, by the way, your brother just died. But these people look and they're like, hey, what's Bob doing here? So no one dies alone. Even pets show up. And it's so comforting to me to hear these stories. And I've got an episode coming up this coming Friday or next Friday. But it's children, children who have terminal lucidity, like I mentioned, when the brain is pretty much gone and people are awake and alert and they can see into the afterlife. But little kids who don't know anything about death, right? And they're describing their grandparents who they never met or a dog their mom or dad had or that they had. And they're talking to them. They're petting the dog's fur or a cat's fur. they see them they're alive they're well and they're so comforting to me and i think they will be to all of us when it's our time that no one dies alone our loved ones are there to take us home and i know you're going to want some after hearing this this is an amazing story we've got stephen and malachi gregory in nelson new zealand i understand that malachi who's eight almost nine years old now was suffering with not just one or two warts but i mean a significant outbreak of warps all over his body so significant it impacted his ability to really function. Yeah, he was having trouble even holding a pencil to write. It was Ty's book actually that got me thinking about it. I'm not surprised. It is an amazing immunomodulator and so I can see that it would work. And so at what point did you see that there was actually improvement? It's really going to work? Well, look, we really started to notice it around 12 weeks. You can see these things actually getting smaller and smaller and then going down to where they're just little red marks, the whole things are gone. And we're talking about one the size of a walnut. I thought, no way that's going to... Wow. It's just been miraculous. To see him get into a pair of shoes. Yes. How wonderful. It's great to see him so happy and confident. Absolutely wonderful. Our friends that have seen it, they're just blown away. Ty, this is awesome. Yeah, this is awesome. Another amazing story. Why? We're talking about carnivora. Call them to awaken your immune system and protect yourself now. Call 1-866-836-8735. That's 1-866-836-8735. Or visit Carnivora.com. C-A-R-N-I-V-O-R-A. Carnivora.com. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy. 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Join me, Keir Gaines, as we have real conversations about healing, growth fatherhood pressure and purpose on my new podcast learn the hard way open your free iheart radio app search learn the hard way and listen now one of the reasons i have come up with for myself in believing in the afterlife is the fact that nobody can explain to me life itself let's take god out of the picture just for a moment if we can but i cannot get one scientist on the air, Sandra, to explain to me the Big Bang, how the universe started, what it started from, what nothing was. Nobody can tell me. No one can. And so that alone tells me that if the afterlife is real, we really all don't understand it that much, but it's out there. What do you think of that? I don't think we're going to even understand it once we get there. Just like we don't understand everything that's happening on planet Earth. But I say if we can look at our lives right now as a miracle that can't be explained. Remember the film, What's the Bleep Do We Know? When we get down to the quantum level of things, all we are is invisible vibrating energy. So I love that. I say life is an illusion. I mean, it's a pretty darn good one. But if all we are is invisible vibrating energy, and if you think of it, two or more forms of energy can be at the same place at the same time. So you and I are surrounded by so many wireless radio signals and GPS and all kinds of things. I 100% believe that the afterlife, we're actually part of their world instead of it being somewhere beyond the clouds. But it's just a different energy wavelength that coexists where we do. And again, you can't explain life. Here we are on this rock called planet Earth hurling around an ever-expanding universe. When we start looking from that perspective, yeah, of course the afterlife can be real, right? our cell phones can pick up all the information not all but lots of information in the world why can't our human minds connect with something in the invisible space it's all possible what if none of this is real that it's just some as some people say a matrix something digitally created by the creator what if none of this is real well what if it is though we can play the what if game sure the cows come home the worst case scenario george is we close our eyes and it's like we go to sleep right and that's it that's it but there's so much evidence for not that so much evidence And I love talking about children, the fact that they've never been taught about near-death experiences. And so it's not just terminal lucidity where they see loved ones just before they pass. But Dr. Melvin Morse has done so much work on near-death experiences with children, studying these incredible stories. One little girl got revived, and she says, dying is fun. And well, what makes it fun? Elizabeth was there. And who's Elizabeth? Some kind of a guide or an angel. And one boy said he was in this giant noodle. That's the best way he could describe the tunnel. But it wasn't quite a noodle because it was filled with rainbows. Another little girl said, I saw all these doctors. And they said, doctors? You saw doctors? Well, they were 14 feet tall and they had light bulbs inside. So she saw these angelic beings that were glowing. and kids had drawn pictures and the stories are like adults near-death experiences they're comforted they see relatives that they didn't know they're able to describe again pets so i'm going with it's all real and our loved ones are very much a part of our life and we don't die When you go to sleep, aside from dreaming, it's almost like you've died. Most people, when they go to bed, don't even remember the moment they were awake before they fall asleep. I don't. But if you don't dream and simply fall asleep, is it like you're dead and then you wake up and life is there again? But, I mean, when you fall asleep, is it like dying? I say yeah it is in fact just a couple episodes ago there were two hospice the hospice doctor and hospice nurse talking about the dying process and even though it seems scary and certainly we don't want anybody in pain but the natural dying experience you've everything starts slowing down You're not hungry. You're not thirsty. You sleep a lot. And then you just have that final breath out. And it's very, very peaceful. And so yeah like falling asleep you just come free and warm But the big difference is you open your eyes up and there are your loved ones that have passed And they say it a world quite like planet earth as far as the beauty and nature, those kinds of things, even buildings and things there. So it's not an insult to our intellect, you know, but there's our loved ones. And I like to imagine that it's like you're crossing a finish line in a marathon, you get a big standing ovation for the job you did. We're talking with Sandra Champlain, host of the Shades of the Afterlife on the Paranormal Podcast Network, which, of course, you can listen to by going to coasttocoastam.com or iHeartRadio and just put in the Paranormal Podcast Network and Coast to Coast AM and it'll pop up. Kind of take us through a scenario. Paint us a picture. A person goes to sleep and physically dies in their sleep. What happens to that person? Explain what happens. I'll do my very best. And this information comes through different sorts of mediums and near-death experiences, et cetera. People, first of all, have their loved ones, guides, angels, whatever you wish to call them that are right there to greet them, to let them know they're not alone. Like there's a change coming, right? So we're together and they open their eyes. And yes, they're surrounded by loved ones. If you're somebody who had lots of pets, they're right there. Your parents, grandparents, ancestors are right there. Do we know we're dead? I don't think we might right away. you might say like, hey, folks, what are you doing here? Or I'm having a dream or something. Yeah, well, it's more real than the dream. That's the thing. From what I've been told, there was a, many people know, some people don't know that my career has been being a chef and I cooked for race car teams. That was my employment before old COVID hit planet Earth. But one of the race car drivers who was a champion race car driver, He told me that he had had a near-death experience due to a car accident, and he floated above his body, and there was no pain. He said he was more alive than he feels here on Earth. He said his grandmother and grandfather were there to greet him, and he said they were incredibly real, and it made this life seem like it was just the dream. and he was given the opportunity to go with them, which seemed very appealing. But he also looked back on his body, which was in the hospital. His mom and dad and brother were praying there. And he said, no, I've got to go back. He was given the choice and he came back. But he said it was so real that it made this life seem like it was just the dream. So it's even more real than what we're experiencing right now. And for this gentleman, And because that took away his fear of dying, it also took away his fear of living. So on the racetrack, he put his foot on that pedal a little faster than others and brake at the last minute, and he went on to win championships. So I don't want everybody to have a near-death experience, but if we can get that same result by hearing enough of these stories, then we can get our money's worth out of life. Because I think life has a purpose. But when we cross over, we can continue to learn, to explore. They talk about the Akashic Records or the halls of learning. We can go and have all these virtual experiences. If you want to go back to, I don't know, the 1800s and explore something, boom, there you are. If you want to go to the pyramids in Egypt, boom, there you are back in the day. And you can have a house. You can live, you can work, you can do all kinds of great things. You know, I say that the afterlife doesn't have any bugs, though, right? No bugs, no mosquitoes, but a world very much like this. And I think our world was designed from their world. I've got a bunch of bird feeders out, George, and some of the birds are incredibly colored in like different paint, you know, different just I'm thinking there has to be some divine intelligence. And I imagine a bunch of kids with coloring books creating all these different animals like zebras and giraffes and things. And then, boom, here we have them on planet Earth. Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at 1 a.m. Eastern. And go to coasttocoastam.com for more. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy. Not quite. on Humor Me with Robert Smigel and Friends, me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guests, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel, help an acapella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to Humor Me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Life is full of hurdles, so how do you keep going? On Hurdle with Emily Abadi, we're talking with the most inspiring woman in sports and wellness, from professional athletes, coaches, and Olympic champions, about the challenges that shape them and the mindset that keeps them moving forward. At our level, at this scale, being able to fail in front of the entire world. Like, I can do anything. I can do anything. Listen to Hurdle with Emily Abadi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. I'm Michelle McPhee and I've been unraveling the strangest criminal alliance I've ever reported on. A Mormon polygamist and an Armenian businessman. Multi-million dollar house, Ferraris and Lamborghinis, private jets, a billion dollar fraud. But how long can this alliance last? Tell me what you know. Is somebody coming after me? Listen to Kingdom of Fraud on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Thank you.