Kash Patel, Drunk with Power

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Simone Sanders Townsend and Eugene Daniels are here. we are here on the eve of the white house correspondence dinner i can't wait for that mentalist to read trump's mind and then run into traffic just come screaming out of that hilton ballroom but until then let's get into it what a week We're all living through a fascinating experiment. What happens when the president builds an administration around loyalty to him and not loyalty to the country? We're the modern-day Marie Curie. And by that, I mean this experiment will kill us. Plus, babe, we're glowing. To get a top job in the administration, these people must be willing to completely embarrass themselves for Trump. but the only people willing to do that would never qualify for these jobs on the merits. You sold your soul to the devil, and yet you still suck at baseball. It's like I can have funny writers or writers who tell me that all my jokes are funny, but not both. Take FBI Director Cash Patel. Please. Please. Last Friday, the Atlantic reported that Patel was regularly getting drunk at private lounges in Washington and Las Vegas and was unreachable during unexplained absences. Trash Patel over here. According to the Atlantic's two dozen sources, Patel was known to drink to excess at the private club Neds here in D.C. and the Poodle Room in the Fountain Blue Hotel in Las Vegas where he hangs out on the weekend. And the Poodle Room is a very exclusive place, okay? This is directly from the website. Access to the Poodle Room is granted exclusively to active members, guests staying in fleur-de-lis suites, and select American Express cardholders. Yeah, they don't let anybody in there unless they have $500. Which you get back. Which you basically get back. Get it back at Lululemon. It's like no big deal. Now, I'd make fun of Cash Patel, but he does belong at the poodle club. He's high-strung, neurotic, prone to separation anxiety, quite vocal and reactive, easily matted, nervous around strangers, and I think it is with him fair to worry about hip dysplasia. at times patel's security detail reportedly had trouble waking him because he was plastered when reached for a comment secretary of defense pete hegs has said that is so unprofessional if you're gonna drink that much do a little bump you fucking pussy on one occasion grow up on one occasion last year Patel's security detail made a request for SWAT style breaching equipment because he was unresponsive in a locked room according to this report multiple officials said they worried that Patel's behavior constituted a threat to public safety and that the FBI would be unprepared for a terrorist attack. Ironic he's not prepared for another 9-11 when those are the directions his eyes point. I'm loving woke too. But Tell is also paranoid. Earlier this month, he reportedly found himself locked out of a computer system and freaked out that he had been fired. It is so cool that he's paranoid and totally unprepared for the actual worst-case scenarios of his job. He's like a hypochondriac who loves the taste of doorknobs. But Patel isn't in this job because he's qualified or capable. He's in this job because he's committed to targeting Trump's political enemies. Almost as committed as he is to getting the poodle room to add the cash to its cocktail menu, which it refuses to do because a bottle of Bud Light that you have to drink real fast is not a cocktail. The New York Times reported this week that the FBI began investigating one of the paper's reporters last month following an article about Patel enlisting SWAT teams to provide his girlfriend with full-time security, which is obviously unethical. That man should not have a girlfriend. And this is neither here nor there, but cash, my man. How many piping hot dudes do you want around your girlfriend 24 hours a day making her feel safe? They don't make endless movies and TV shows about bodyguards because people don't want to fuck their bodyguards. Whitney Houston doesn't sing, I will always love off-screen boyfriends. Playing with fire, buddy. on monday patel sued the atlantic and the story's author sarah fitzpatrick for defamation accusing them of quote publishing an article replete with false and obviously fabricated allegations designed to destroy director patel's reputation and drive him from office patel would have driven himself from office but he failed the breathalyzer a day later the fbi director addressed this story publicly i'm on the job i'm the first one in i'm the last one out. I'm like an everyday American who loves his country, loves the sport of hockey, and champions my friends when they raise a gold medal and invite me in to celebrate. I've never been intoxicated on the job, and that is why we filed a $250 million defamation lawsuit. But the DOJ ethics handbook actually says that an employee is prohibited from habitually using alcohol or other intoxicants to access on or off duty. This isn't one of those jobs where you can knock off work and go get blasted like podcaster or defense secretary. And speaking of the devil, on Tuesday, Secretary of Defensiveness Pete Hegseth announced that the Pentagon will stop requiring service members from getting annual flu vaccines. Yes, at long last, we're addressing our greatest military weakness, troops too healthy. Let's take a look. Under the disastrous Biden administration, this Pentagon waged an unrelenting war on our warriors on many fronts. You know what I'm talking about, what happened COVID-19 and the vaccine. No more. We're seizing this moment to discard any absurd, overreaching mandates that only weaken our war fighting capabilities. In this case, this includes the universal flu vaccine and the mandate behind it. One problem. Yes, Biden is old. But not that old. We've had a flu vaccine mandate since 1945. We were pretty excited about the flu vaccine back then because the flu killed 45,000 soldiers during World War I. In 1918, doctors for the American Expeditionary Force in Europe sent 340,000 soldiers to the hospital for the flu. That is more than were hospitalized for injuries sustained in combat. The army surgeon general wanted to stop sending soldiers to France until the epidemic subsided. But the Germans were in retreat. The war was almost over, and Pershing needed reinforcements. They tried to get me to cut this. No. No. No. No, we're going to talk about what happened in World War I. And so, in 1918, as Woodrow Wilson continued sending troops on packed ships to the front, by one estimate, 12,000 service members died on the journey, many buried at sea. If you pass by a ship, you could watch that ship throw bodies overboard, sometimes a dozen at a time, because the flu was ravaging American soldiers. You absolute fucking dipshit. The Strait of Hormuz isn't the salad bar at Sizzler. You can't seize control by coughing all over it. Hegseth noted that the flu vaccine will still be available for soldiers who believe it's in their best interest But we will not force you Because your body, your faith, and your convictions are not negotiable It's interesting, isn't it? Your body, your choice This is the military You don't even get to choose your own haircut. This guy gave a whole speech about beards being woke. Now you can't have a mustache, but you can choose walking pneumonia. Anyway, speaking of people who sound like they have walking pneumonia, RFK Jr. Why not? Testified before Congress this week. Hey, let's take a listen. You have done among the many that you've described in your testimony. In that context, in your testimony, you identified nutrition as a bedrock of health. Sorry, that was the wrong clip. That was the recording of someone who snuck an English bulldog on an airplane. As a good reminder, fill your CPAP machine with distilled water only. No roadkill viscera. RFK also refused to commit to following the vaccine recommendations of Trump's nominee to lead the CDC, Eric Schwartz. If Dr. Schwartz is confirmed, will you commit on the record today to implement whatever vaccine guidance she issues without interference? I'm not going to make that kind of commitment. Because you probably won't. You'll probably fire her. Sort of rude to ask a question you know the answer to. So, said RFK Jr., there are only two kinds of women, consummate professionals with whom I have a terrible working relationship, and crazy bitches who are into this. Let me see where we're at in a few days. And don't worry, they did bring up the roadkill. I really wish you'd spend more time on, more time thinking about the American people, less time talking about whale heads, bear heads, and raccoon parts. Okay. Talking about what's important to the American people and how they can... I don't talk about any of those things. Okay. Representative time is up. Boys, boys, there's plenty of raccoon cock to go around. Kennedy's right, though. He doesn't bring it up. This stuff is just like a dead bear by the side of the road. Irresistible. But what these stooges, Patel, Hegseth, RFK Jr. understand is that for all their bumbling incompetence and crank beliefs, the one line they can't cross is disagreeing publicly with Trump. Here's Kennedy inventing new kinds of math to avoid suggesting Trump might be mistaken. But I would say this, Senator. President Trump has a different way of calculating. There's two ways of calculating percentage. If you have a $600 drug and you reduce it to 10, that's a 600% reduction. I understand that you know I only have five minutes. Do you know what the drug costs at Costco? I do not. Only two ways to calculate percentages. There are infinite ways to calculate percentages. If you're brave enough to be wrong. math is all about putting your own spin on it finding the numbers that feel right to you and speaking of numbers that just feel right trump's approval rating continues to fall it's now in the 30s The country is turning against these fuck-ups. It's gotten so bad, they're running out of fuck-ups. U.S. attorneys' offices, once considered among the most prestigious and coveted places to work in the legal profession, have started recruiting lawyers straight out of law school. What they do is they set up a box propped up on a stick tied to a string outside the Cooley Law School campus in Tampa, Florida. And if anyone tries to grab the zin they've got under there, boom, you pull the string, you've got yourself a brand new U.S. attorney. And as Kash Patel fires or drives out seasoned FBI officials, the Justice Department has been lowering its standards to try to rebuild its workforce. Want to become an FBI agent? Not so fast. First, let's see if you can get both arms through the sleeves of this FBI jacket. We're low on women's medium for some reason. All of this is obviously dangerous, but it's also absurd. These people have no idea what they're doing. Look at this photo from the White House that they posted to celebrate a championship women's tennis team from Georgia. In which you cannot see the women's team. I, for one, love to see Republicans celebrating men for competing in women's sports. How are these people going to open the Strait of Hormuz? They can't even clear a path for a fucking portrait. But congrats to the women's tennis team from Georgia and those ladies standing behind them. With that, we have got a great show for you tonight. We'll be right back with Senator Chris Murphy. Hey, don't go anywhere. 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We are giving away some free tickets for the first couple tapings, so please go to crooked.com slash events. All right. Please welcome to the stage. He just got in from the Senate, and boy, is his voting hand tired. It's Connecticut's own Senator Chris Murphy. All right. Thanks for being here. fucking poodle room the poodle room the poodle room these guys you know these guys are in charge of the country no i know that i know you know right i know that they are i don't think cash patel is but i know there are others who are in charge of the country i don't think he has that much to run i don't know how many people really feel like i mean it's let's talk about cash patel for a second. I feel a little bit about Kash Patel, how I feel about ICE at the airports. I'd rather Kash Patel in the poodle room. I don't think there's a lot of meetings Kash Patel is at that he's making better for the country. The problem is that Kash Patel shouldn't be the head of the FBI. I don't really care that much about how drunk he gets on Saturdays. Yeah. I mean, the problem is you can't take a day off, an hour off as the director of the FBI, and especially in the middle of a war, right? This guy has fired everybody that's competent in counterterrorism. There's no doubt that we have more threats to the country than ever before and part of what's going on in the Middle East. And so, yeah, I don't think you can actually assume that there are a whole bunch of other competent people that are running counterterrorism. When Kash Patel is off at the poodle room, Tulsi Gabbard is in charge. And so there's a shortage of competent people at the FBI and the White House these days. Yeah, it's a bummer. So it is a stone cold bummer. No, it is. It is. So you've just been through an overnight set of votes in the Senate. This is Republicans still trying to figure out how to pass funding for DHS, with Democrats refusing to go along with any funding for ICE. Which, as of right now, is not done, right? The voterama is concluded. Yeah, no, so not done. I mean, they've got to pass this through the Senate. They haven't done that yet. The House, they've got to get it signed by the president. So, yes, technically, you know, the DHS continues to be shut down. And at the same time, there's been a series of votes, resolutions of disapproval around certain arms sales to Israel that have been coming up over the last couple of weeks led by Bernie Sanders. You know, I went back and looked and it wasn't that long ago that these were getting 5, 10, 15 votes. Now they're getting 40 votes. You've been voting with Senator Sanders to halt a lot of these arms sales for a long time. From the start. From the start. And I'm curious, obviously there's an immediate goal of preventing these offensive arms sales from going through to Israel, but it also does seem to tilt at the kind of policy a country like the United States could have towards Israel, which is one in which we use our leverage to force it into acting without committing ethnic cleansing and atrocities in Gaza and the West Bank and beyond. And in part because I think the Biden administration was so solicitous of Israel, and obviously Trump has been as well, it almost feels unrealistic to even suggest that such a policy could exist or be effective. But I guess beyond just the immediate goal of trying to prevent the worst from being done to Palestinians in the short term, what is the hope in the long term for America's posture towards Israel? Well, I mean, listen, if you show up every day caring about Israel's security, you should oppose the way in which they are enacting a humanitarian catastrophe inside Gaza and inside Lebanon. This is bad for Israel's security in the long run. They're going to create more terrorists than they kill. And it is clearly staining the reputation of the United States all around the world to not use our leverage, right? Like, why are you a superpower, right? Why do you spend this amount of money that we spend on the military if you aren't willing to speak truth to both enemies and friends? The fact of the matter is what they did in Gaza cannot be explained or excused. It has made them weaker. It has made the United States weaker. And we should not continue to fund an Israeli government that is not committed to upholding the rules of war and humanitarian law. And so, listen, I say this. I say this as somebody who supports a Jewish state in the Middle East. I just think they are making it much harder on themselves in the long run if they don't do the things necessary to make sure that they are actually quelling the influences that lead people to join terrorist groups. And they are doing the things necessary to preserve a future Palestinian state living next door to an Israeli state. so you got in trouble this past week for reposting news of 26 iranian vessels making it through the u.s blockade in the street of hormuz with the comment awesome very up people are very upset they're very upset are you ready to apologize what would you like to know about that john are you ready to are you ready finally to say how sorry you are? What's your question? Are you sorry, Senator Murphy? Are you ready to say you're fucking sorry? Why are you rooting for Iran? Like the idea, the idea that like I have a bumper sticker on my car rooting for the Iranian ghost fleets, right? Yeah, I mean, listen, I take it as a compliment, right? These guys are so desperate, so desperate to not be held account for a war that is killing Americans, that is destroying American lives as well as the American economy, that is making Iran stronger, that they are going to create fictions, that they are going to conjure just such transparent, false indignation about sarcasm. just so that for one day they don't have to talk about the fact that they are destroying American security and American credibility by a war that is making America less safe every single hour and every single day. So, listen, I understand why they got off for one day on having to argue the merits of their decision to back up this president by focusing on my sarcastic tweet, but it is a sign of how off the rails this war has gone. I hate to think of how they get off on the other days. And by the way, everything Trump says, according to Republicans, is a joke, right? Is sarcasm. They explain everything he does as a comedic routine. So sarcasm and comedy is only available for Donald Trump. We should just try to be as funny as he is. Now, you recently posted on Substack that prediction markets are the latest sign of our spiritual disintegration. How should we be dealing with the poly market and Calci and these other prediction markets? Well, I mean, listen, I just think this is pretty simple. you should not allow for there to be bets on these prediction marketplaces on government action, on war and peace, on military strikes. I mean, we obviously know that there are loads of people around the Trump administration that are making a ton of money based upon their inside information. We learned today that there was actually someone involved in the actual Venezuela operation on the ground who had made a big bet ahead of time. And of course, that's what's going to happen in this White House. This is the most corrupt White House in the history of the country from the top down. And so if you're working for Donald Trump, you are basically told that you should get your piece however you can through whatever methods. And one of the new methods is through Polymark and Kalshi. But I guess what I mean when I say that it's a sign of our deeper spiritual crisis, I mean, I do worry that everything in this country is being gamified, right? And that we have turned these deeply moral questions like war or peace, like whether people are going to die in the Middle East tomorrow because Iran strikes a particular country into an opportunity for moneymaking. and you suck the moral component out of these deeply moral issues when they just become an opportunity for somebody to make money. If something bad happens, somebody makes money, and if something good happens, somebody makes money. And so to me, this is about fighting corruption, but it's also about making sure that there are some elements of our national conversation that aren't opportunities for money making. I think that's kind of essential to preserve what's left of the American soul. Yeah, I saw. I looked at what you had put forward, this proposal, Bill, to ban bets on certain kinds of government actions, things in which the government is primarily responsible. But at a certain point, even if it doesn't involve the government, the contours of people knowing the outcome, being able to bet on it, the fact that it's basically very difficult to regulate, The notion of insider trading is hard to define, even though they claim that they've done it. At a certain point, and by the way, we have a gambling crisis in which removing the friction and putting it on people's phones has led to skyrocketing bankruptcies. So many people are kind of immiserating themselves through these. I love gambling. I can't have it. I do, genuinely. I love it. I can't have it on my phone. These kind of betting markets are unsafe at any speed. Shouldn't these just be banned outright? right? No, as a society, we don't bet on random events that happen between people on our fucking phones for money because it's just, it leads to an entire economy in which these companies are the rake that get a profit and the rest of us are slowly depleting ourselves through these ridiculous kinds of bets. Yeah, no, listen, I mean, I, do you think that should include sports betting too? I wonder about the sports betting on the phones. These companies reached out to us about advertising and because I support the idea that gambling in some form should be legal. I thought, well, I like gambling. I think people should have freedom to gamble. Why don't do these ads? But then we stopped in part because you see all these reports about how being on the phone is so specifically dangerous. Yeah. Yeah. So so that's why that's why Polymarket and CalShare are so dangerous in particular, because the the traditional sports betting sites, whether you like them or not, actually are state regulated. Right. So there are some protections built in, for instance, to make sure that minors aren't betting on, you know, you know, DraftKings, for instance, there are none of those protections for these prediction markets. And so they're being accessed by folks that shouldn't be on the phones and shouldn't be on the markets. And so my legislation doesn't touch the sports betting, but what it says is that any event in which there is a knowable outcome, right, where somebody has inside information about whether a war is going to start or what joke you're going to make in your monologue tonight. That would be a great way to make money. Yeah. I mean, check. There may be a prediction market on what you were going to say tonight. I mean, that's why you shouldn't have the app on your phone, maybe. Wait a second. This interview is over. Here's the other piece of this, especially when it comes to these questions of public policy. I think these prediction markets give you an illusion of being connected to a big event, right, that has an impact on your life. And I think people are more attracted to these prediction markets because it's the only way that they feel that they actually can be connected. Democracy is supposed to be the way that you're connected to big events. That's how you're supposed to actually influence whether war happens or not. But people feel, and maybe this is a stretch, John, but I think people feel that our government and our democracy is so captured by billionaires and corporations that that's not the way that they're going to have an impact or connection to a big event like war or peace. And so prediction markets become the way that you have a stake. And so part of that spiritual rot that I think these prediction markets expedite is a retreat from people actually deciding that they're going to spend their life trying to fix democracy. Instead, they can just stay connected to the big events that dictate their life on Calci and Pali markets. So that's why I think this is so important. This isn't just about fighting corruption. This is also about centering our conversations in a moral conversation and also making sure that we provide incentives for people to actually spend time fixing the true vehicle by which you influence things like war and peace, which is American democracy. So let's talk about that for a moment with you. Midterms are coming. Right. look busy. Right now, from your vantage point, what are the places where you think, where are you most sort of nervous about us not doing what it takes in the next few months? Like, where are the places where you think, oh, we need to button this up, we're not ready here, we're not focused on the right things, whether it's running, whether how we're campaigning or protecting against electoral malfeasance? Well, I mean, I guess a year ago I was worried that we were going to sit around protecting norms, especially when it came to elections while they shattered every single one of them. And as much of a critic as I occasionally am that we don't fight as hard as we should, I give a lot of credit to Hakeem Jeffries and the folks in the House who have gone on the offense to make sure that we have a map that actually allows us to win on a district-by-district basis if we win the national popular vote. So what happened in California, what happened in Virginia, I think are really important. Really important. And listen, they are starting to run out of ways to try to steal the election. They thought that they were going to be able to change the House districts. That looks like it's going to be a wash or an advantage for us. They thought they were going to be able to deploy troops into the cities. For the time being, the Supreme Court seems to have drawn a line on that tactic. They tried to pass the SAVE Act, right, to try to create a pretext to argue that the elections have been stolen. That has been pulled from the Senate floor. So we do have to remain vigilant because they are not going to give up. But, you know, we spend a lot of times beating ourselves up for not being good enough. I will say, thus far, we have done a pretty good job, better than maybe I had expected a year ago, in foreclosing all of their plans to try to steal the 2026 election. And we should take credit collectively for that. Cool. I mean, there is some good news. No, I'm just sitting in it. Yeah. now here's the okay so you asked me what i worry about though yeah let's get let's get sad too so i worry about um i worry about the ai investment and the crypto investment right um and and i worry that we will take the wrong approach so there is a school of thought that if you just kind of be nice to the ai companies and you be nice to the crypto companies and you kind of do what they want, or you don't criticize them publicly, maybe they won't spend money against Democrats. I think that'd be a huge mistake. They're going to spend a little bit of money on one Democrat here or there, but let's be clear. The AI companies and the crypto companies know that they've got Donald Trump and Republicans in their pocket. They're going to spend 90% of their cash on Republicans, and the only answer for us really is to make their spending and their intervention in these elections, a campaign issue, right, to talk about how much money they are spending, to talk about the cost to the public if our government becomes wholly, completely captured by crypto and, more importantly, probably for regular people by AI. So I worry that that money is going to be dispositive, but that we're going to make a mistake by thinking that we can just kind of look the other way and hope they don't spend it or spend it somewhere else. If we're going to beat AI, if we're going to beat crypto in this election, it's because we're going to take them on and promise to the American people that if you put us in power, we're going to actually protect American families from the poison that is being stuck in our pockets. Now, before we let you go, we did want to touch on one final topic. While some Republicans are occasionally willing to stand up to Trump, most seem inclined to kneel, and their knees are not up for it. Which is why it's time to take a look at the party's most jaw-dropping sycophantic moves in a lightning round we're calling Cult of Personality Disorder. Here's how it works. I'll describe a proposal put forth by a Republican legislator to honor the leader Trump. You tell us if it's real or fake. Are you ready? A bill to declare Trump's birthday a federal holiday. Don't help him. I mean, that sounds true. It is. Proposed the Trump birthday and flag day holiday establishment act. It would turn Trump's birthday, June 14th, into a federal holiday and combine it with flag day, which currently falls on the second Sunday in June. next up renaming jfk airport in new york trump international airport uh i don't think that that's true you're right it's fake uh palm beach international is going to be renamed president donald j trump international to go into effect july 1st uh another proposal uh by a member of congress was submitted to rename dallas airport also after Trump, an idea Trump has recently latched onto again, said that member of Congress, he took a bullet for us. I don't think we can have two airports named Trump. That'll be confusing for people. Just practically speaking, you can't do it. Which, what? All of a sudden you arrive at Palm Beach, you think you're in Dulles? You're fucked. I mean, Dulles is a terrible airport, so it can have his name. You can call it Trump. That was the biggest that was the biggest applause line I got. Yes, they did love that. They loved that It was the two things that are on people minds are stopping arms sales to Israel and those fucking people movers Look we don have time for this but it a beautiful building They fucked it up with those people movers Next up, putting Trump's face on the hundred dollar bill. That's true. That is true. what about putting Trump's face on the $250 bill? Trick questions? Nope, it's also true. There was a proposal to put his face on a $250 bill by Representative Joe Wilson. Next up, carving Trump's face on the side of a mountain on a remote island. Hmm. I mean, true? That's technically false because that's Dr. Evil's lair in Austin Powers. The spy who shagged me. But carving Trump's face onto Mount Rushmore, that's real. Is it real? Yes. In January 2025, Florida Rep. Anna Paulina Luna introduced legislation to have Trump's face added to Mount Rushmore. I love the open collar. now the parks department does say that there's not a lot of good carvable rock left on the mountain for another face that doesn't mean they won't try it you know they were originally supposed to put their whole bodies on there they were supposed to go all the way down to the lakes but they gave up they gave up which i think was right can we can we have an honest conversation about how much rushmore is kind of stupid oh yeah you like it you have to say it's good I mean, it's a little weird that, like, Roosevelt's on there, right? Like, he sort of snuck in there between some of the Titans. Honestly, I would have put Jefferson there. Sorry. Sorry. I'm pro. I didn't know. Like, I didn't know. Oh, were Jefferson heads here? Were Jefferson here? Who do you think made the nails in his nailery? They were children. I brought a weird energy to it at the end. I know. I'm just going to, like, no, I'm just going to, like, stay pro-Math. Don't rush more. No, no, I get it. You should. This is not the fight to me. You think a lot of fights. I'm not going to rethink that position tonight. And finally, that's good. See? I don't know. I mean, it's... See? You know where he stands on stuff, but he's still thinking about politics, you know? That's what you need. Directing the National Institute of Health to study the psychological and sociological factors behind a mysterious ailment known as Trump derangement syndrome. 100% true. That is real. A congressman proposed the Trump derangement syndrome research act of 2020. 25. Well, you know what? If they're going to study cases of it, I think we got both of us have it pretty bad. We do. Senator Chris Murphy, thank you so much for being here. Appreciate it. So good to see you. Senator Chris Murphy, everybody. That was great. Thank you. We'll be right back with Simone and Eugene. Hey, don't go anywhere. There's more of Love It or Leave It coming up. Love It or Leave It is brought to you by Built. 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We're looking for our boss Yeah, where's Madeline Herringer? Where's Madeline Herringer? Shout out to Madeline There she goes Yes, yes Madeline is how we got a podcast Correct Y'all give it up for Madeline Herringer Yes, ma'am Okay? I know where my bread is, buddy Correct We like you We're happy to be here You know, we are missing the nice party at the Irish Embassy It's true For this And you know Those people know how to throw a party Our friend John McCarthy is not pleased We're like, we sent a video We're like, we're with Lovett So we're not going to be there. The luck of the Jewish. We're not touching that. He's such a comedian. So it's White House Correspondents Dinner Weekend here in D.C. Over 250 journalists signed a petition demanding that White House Correspondents Association formally demonstrate opposition to Trump on Saturday. Forcefully demonstrate opposition. You can't formally do it. I don't know. I guess you could formally and forcefully do it. What does that involve? What do they want other than a pocket square? There's a pocket square involved. There's pocket squares. And I hope that helps. There are pins. Pins? I'm not sure. I think the letter wasn't specific. I think it wasn't really specific. It was very long. But I think what they're hoping for, and I think this will happen, is at least an implicit defense, an explicit defense of the First Amendment, a defense of the WHCA, the correspondence that are there, and some implicit digs maybe at people who do not support those things. See, here's the thing. She's my anger translator. I thought the letter did give some sense of it. No, it did not. The letter said it suggested some things that they could do. They said forcefully speak to the importance of the First Amendment directly in front of the face of the person. Which they always do. Do they? I did last year. You did. But then the president wasn't there. they're saying what Donald Trump is sitting there in the room what the journalists are requesting they didn't they're like look he's there now so when he's sitting there be very clear with him and I I think that that's a very specific request and I hope they do that I won't be I'll be there because I'll be at work these people are like are you going you better not go do you pay my mortgage this is how I contribute to my household I'm going to work and work on Saturday is that dinner and the MS Now after party. Exactly. But what you do in the room is what matters. How you respond to Donald Trump. And if he goes off on a tangent for 45 minutes and he's saying all kinds of crazy shit and pointing fingers at the press and da da da da, we need to be prepared to respond. Well, it's a guarantee that he is going to say all kinds of crazy shit. I will... So, it is what are people going to do. I will say people in the audience, I've talked to other reporters who are within the WHCA, kind of like figuring out what people are planning, like what are they thinking about doing. And people are struggling. They're like, What are they doing? Anybody going to walk out? I ain't saying no names, but there was someone yesterday that was telling me and my husband they're walking out as soon as he get up. I don't know who that's going to be and y'all can watch C-SPAN to see who would like him. Well, they'll probably be in the back so they won't be on the cameras anyway. He's not going to see it. But people are trying to figure out what does it look like to get up and leave? Do you wait until he says something? Do you do it when he comes in? It's unclear. You know, I'm realizing as we discuss this that a lot of what dealing with Trump has been over the last decade is a bunch of people who see a bear and they're like, is this the kind of bear where you lie down or is this the kind of bear where you make yourself real big? And it's like, some people are like, get down and hide. It's like, no, it's not that kind of bear. You got to make yourself real big. And it's like, we kind of go back and forth. He respects people that fight back. Like the thing is, when you watch how he operates, when you watch how he operates, and this is for people who capitulated from the very beginning, is that if you put up a fight, Donald Trump, in his queen heart of hearts, he respects the fight, and he likes the tussle. And when you talk to reporters who have written about him, and then they go and see him a couple days later after he tweets about them and calls them all types of names, everything but a child of God, he says to them, you know what? You're real tough. I like you. and that's it's all like for him it's all a game it's not a game to many of you in here i assume maybe all of you but for him a lot of the back and forth is a game i think it look i the fact that they're giving an award to the wall street journal for reporting about the epstein files that night and that trump is gonna have to leave before the award i get i mean they should just surprise him i get why he wants to leave before it's giving out but maybe just change the schedule and get it out there before. My other pitch... I mean, yeah, what you gonna do once he's in there? They don't know. Once he's sitting down, it's gonna be like, actually, we're gonna start with the awards. Yeah. Josh Dawsey, come up here. Epstein. That's actually what they should do. They should switch it up on his ass in real time. I make some calls tonight. That's my pitch. That's my pitch. I like that idea. My other idea is that the mentalist... Here's what the mentalist is like, wait a second, I'm seeing a peninsula. No, no, no, it's an island. You know what I'm saying? Uh-huh. He's like... The mentalist was on Morning Joe, and the mentalist is good. I'm scared. I'm actually glad I'm not sitting where the mentalist can see because I don't want the mentalist reading my thoughts. Stay away from me. My husband was like, close your eyes when he walks by. I hope he doesn't go deep into the crowd. Absolutely not. Mind my business. Maybe he'll read Nicki Minaj's mind. That's a dangerous place to be. Well... That sounds fun She's sitting with Fox apparently Apparently she's at the dinner Nikki Minaj is going Oh she is Here's the thing How did Nikki Minaj get into dinner But Nelly is just the dancing horse Well because Nelly apologized That was why Oh Yeah Nelly is getting paid And he is performing In case you didn't know Nelly yes St. Louis' finest Where is Nelly performing? Nelly is performing at a party A private party that's hosted at the little Trump club. Oh, one of those Trump clubs. E-I-E-I, uh-oh! What's popping tonight? Popping tonight! Why are we like this? Love is like, I made a mistake. No. New polls from Reuters. Among others, have Trump's approval rating plummeting to 35%. the GOP held Congress as an 86% disapproval rating that's cool low Simone how are Democrats you think you're going to fuck this up well you know there's a myriad of ways that it could go down but I actually have confidence in my Democratic friends say that again more believable I have confidence in the Democrats because what I have been hearing from them is they are all laser focused on November. I mean, even the, they wouldn't call it a ploy, but I'm going to call it a ploy. Even the ploy by House Democrats to bring that legislation or that bill or that resolution about the 25th Amendment and to start that Democratic Ranking Committee, that is not because they think the 25th Amendment is going to go anywhere in Congress. People need the civics lesson. Congress actually does not have a role in the 25th Amendment unless the cabinet invokes it and the president then says, I'm not going. Then it goes to Congress and Congress kicks out the president, installs the vice president and picks a new vice president. I see what y'all don't know about Simone Sanders. She's a nerd. And I hope y'all clocked that just now. This girl stays with the history lessons. OK. Yeah, that is the history. So but they did that because the base and Democratic voters out there are asking, because they're seeing in that same Reuters poll, the people were also asked in the poll about Trump's erraticness and basically, is he okay? And the people in the poll are like, no. They're lacking confidence even in the Reuters poll. And so folks out there, like the folks listening to this podcast and the people here in the room, they see what we see. They hear what we hear, and they're like, can somebody get this man out of here? We are at war. So the Democrats are being responsive to what the base voters want in that sense. So they're fighting for real on the ground that they can, but they're also looking like they're fighting on the things that the base cares about. And I think that that's good politics. And so I think it'll be okay. Even if it goes nowhere. I think it's important. Now, I'm somebody that says, y'all should impeach his ass when you get back in there. Because I do. And they're like, well, for what? And I'm like, do an investigation, and I'm sure we will find a high crime and or misdemeanor. For what? For the crimes he's been doing, I think. There are the sort of, you know, federal statute style, kind of quotidian, old school, kind of normal crimes, and they're the crimes against the Constitution. And those you can just say that that's what they are. Because it's what they are. You know, the closing of... Misdemeanors of whatever Congress at the time says they are. Okay, but see, we have allowed, see, the bar is in hell, actually. And somebody on Threads the other day, I'm a Threadser, by the way. Is that what we call them? No. I'm a Thrend. Uh-huh. Feels like a slur. Somebody on Threads. He is always using slurs against me, by the way, on our podcast. I call her an auntie. He calls her an auntie. It's a slur when he says it. She looks like an auntie sometimes. Tonight, guys, the slur is, we were up in the room. It was cold up there, too, by the way. And I'm sitting there on the couch like this, eating my popcorn. And he's like, you look like a first lady. That's a slur. You are coming for me. That's number three. Does she not look like a first lady? Does she not look like a first lady? But he is being derogatory towards me. What does that mean? He's a shady queen. What did you mean? Why don't you just tell us what you meant? Just say what you meant. Just say what you fucking meant. She looks like a first lady. What do you mean? You're just repeating it. That's what I said. What does it mean, Eugene? Like she's about to go out and pick some... What? Pick some what? Pick some what? Oh! They heard it. Vegetables with the children. They heard it. Pick some vegetables with the children, read them a book. He's about to say I'm about to pick cotton. It'd be your own people. We are now. Madeline, please stop here. I don't even remember what the question was. We had one first lady pick vegetables. It's like one time. The rest of them, I don't know what they did. Oh, so you're saying all the black first ladies look alike? They like vegetables. I'm leaving. I don't have to put up with this. I'm going to the crowd. I'm sitting there as the tug, Lee. Now, before we end the show. I don't even know where we are. I'm enjoying myself. I'm enjoying the dynamic. I like being an observer, but I do so much talking on this show. And the fact that for the last few minutes, was I here? It doesn't matter. Whose podcast is it? Yeah. This is now a Clock It podcast. It's now a Clock It podcast. Please send us a collaboration link on YouTube. I'll have my people do that. So, now Simone and I are partisans. But Eugene, you're a journalist. I am. And I was hoping that you could put Simone and me on the spot with what you think are the toughest questions for Democrats right now. If there are any on your mind. Oh, and he's got a card. I may have written some. Now, and I should preface this that I can just cut this if it doesn't go well for us. That's true. It might not go well for you. Eat shit, David Ellison. I own this microphone. Well. Did you? You used a Trump Sharpie to do this? I did. He's right about some things, and the Sharpie is very good. It's a great pen, for sure. They make a great product over there at Sharpie. Let's see, what are our questions? I'm excited about that. I know, it's good. Should the Democrats expand the tent to the right, bring in the Liz Cheneys of the world? I feel like we have some answers out here. Or should they double down on folks like this? That's a good question. I'm very good at this. Okay, here's the thing. I think that the Democratic tent is large. That is a part of being a Democrat. Like, there are many factions. I don't think that Democrats should overexert themselves, though, to gain support of Republicans. I think that they should do a little outreach. But the tent is large, and there are many people in the tent that are not voting for you right now. Was it a mistake when Kamala did it in 2024? I think the mistake was doing town halls in the suburbs with Liz Cheney and white people and not doing one at the barbershop in Philly with the blacks. Mr. Lovett. My sincere answer is, I'll answer directly, no, it was not a mistake. The problem is not that Kamala Harris did an event with Liz Cheney. The problem is Kamala Harris doing an event with Liz Cheney and people not having a deeper sense of what Kamala Harris stands for led people to question whether or not she was for them. And yes, you can address that by doing events and speaking to people, but there was a deeper problem in that campaign, partially, honestly, because of some of her challenges as a politician, but also mostly because she had 107 days to explain both for Joe Biden and for kind of the future she was trying to promise. So I do not think the problem was doing events with Liz Cheney. Like, it is a cliche, but I do think, especially in a moment like this, like building a pro-democracy movement is about addition, not subtraction. And I want to be part of a big movement that runs all the way from anti-Trump, pro-democracy Republicans to as far left as you want to go. And that will create friction and challenges, but we have to be unabashed and confident in that. I think it's important, but again, the optics of only doing the town halls where you are taking questions from voters in the suburbs with people who are identified as Republicans that are looking to vote for a Democrat, and not doing that for members of the base of your party who also have questions, who also need persuasion, is the current problem that the Democratic Party apparatus has. So you must do both. You have to do both. Best messenger in the Democratic Party right now. Love it, you first. That's a good question. That's a good question. Just shouting your own answers. I heard a Gavin from the back. So my... There's Pete. Pete does great. Like, I think right now we're seeing people's strengths in their... Like, what their strengths are as... Pick one. I don't, but I'm not. But I sincerely, I'm not avoiding your question. I don't think there is one right now. My honest answer would be there is right now no one person that to me rises to the top and I say, oh, that is so clearly the person who speaks for the Democratic Party, in part because Joe Biden was a caretaker candidate running against Trump the first time and we didn't have a primary the second time. We haven't had that big, fractious debate. I think the messenger emerges from that process. I do. And I want somebody that can go on Fox News, go on a stream with a lefty, go on MS, go on a two-hour podcast with a finance influencer. Like, I want the kind of person who's comfortable everywhere, and they got to get the reps. Yeah, I think there is no one clear leader of the Democratic Party, but I think the best messengers right now are the Democratic governors. Yes. The Democratic governors are the best messengers. Also, I always forget, every time I come with my Posse cousins, I forget this is the place where we do the Joe Biden slander. It's always a good reminder. I'm like, oh, here we go. Who's the... It's a homily for us. It is. It's like, open up your prayer books. We begin by talking about how Joe Biden the one that caused all this Worst messenger in the Democratic Party right now You can say Joe Biden Well, there's a... Thank you. The Razzies. I mean, it's sort of a tough fucking category. Look, I would say that, like, if you're going to say, who is the most prominent worst messenger is Chuck Schumer. And he may be... That's just... There's a lot of people that are terrible messengers. Who is the most... Who has the most attention? who I think does the least to be the right person to communicate on our behalf, it's him. That's the answer. Ma'am? I mean, who's the worst messenger? I'm just answering. I'm just answering. I see this. I see this. I don't know what's going to happen. See, he lives in Los Angeles. He lives in Los Angeles. He don't got to be here with these people in the street. What's going to happen? I'm going to go back to my hotel, and all of a sudden a bagel is going to come through the window. oh my gosh oh my gosh i guess the worst messengers i would okay fine i think at this point the most prominent worst messenger he's right is chuck sumer but if he were saying publicly all the things that he's saying privately he would be the best messenger so i don't know why it's not the same well that's interesting he should try that it's opposite day yeah i what he said the things chuck schumer is doing privately and saying privately that he's not broadcasting those are the the thing and i and i'll just add one thing which is i'm trying to win the senate and i think he got a good strategy they give him money to a candidate in mississippi and there are moments and i'll just the other side of this because i do think i want to be fair uh i do not think he's a great communicator i also think a lot of problems are laid at chuck schumer's feet that are not chuck schumer's problem but are either structural or the decisions of other members and so there are moments where I'm very frustrated by him as the face of the party, but there are also moments where he has to be a little bit like Batman at the end of Dark Knight. It's like, we have to he's, because he's the one we have to chase. He's the villain that we need. And so we all get to say, ah, we'd be doing so great if it wasn't for that fucking Chuck Schumer. It's like, I guess. I guess. Why do you want it out? Because we all I assume you all want the 2024 autopsy out from the Democratic Party. I assume everybody wants that. Why do you think... That applause was kind of tepid. It was. They don't care about the autopsy. That's fine. Why do you think they're keeping the autopsy secret? I know why. Because they don't want it to be a distraction. This was told to me by people familiar with the matter. Three people familiar. I got more than two sources. Yeah, so she can say it. Exactly. But they don't want it to be a distraction. They feel like it'll be an unforced error, especially this close. And one could argue they could have released this thing last December, and nobody would care about it right now. January. So I don't I'm not advising the Democratic Party. So I would have told them that's crazy. But they think it's an unforced error. So we will not see it prior to the election. We might see it this December, though. There's will leak. There's that paradox about how you can move closer to your office, but it'll take longer to get there because you'll switch from a bike to walking on foot because you're in this in-between space where you think you may. You don't know what I'm saying? Because if you were. You've been doing some meditation. so well because he's elevated you went to therapy this week I loved him see I'm not seeing my therapist till next week that is so sweet of you to say and I love that that's the energy I'm giving off it has been it is it has been years but in this climate you need we all need a therapist but I think sometimes it is easy to avoid the for sure and there's a sponsor you can call but and if they're here thank you for all that you do but uh i think sometimes we avoid uh we as democrats we avoid momentary pain even if that would get you to a better place on the other side of it and i think that's just short-term thinking like oh we'll have a big fractious debate we're gonna do that anyway get it out there i mean because when we were talking about this was january and it's like i'm sorry but if these midterms are determined by a debate over a fucking 2024 autopsy in january 2026. That's going to decide November. We got bigger problems. So I think you're right. I think it was just short-term thinking. All right. I think we got to leave it there. Before we go, I'd like to offer us an opportunity to rant about something that's in our hearts, which is why it's time for a round of the rant wheel. Here's how it works. We'll put a minute on the timer. You let loose on whatever person plays or thing you want to rant about. And honestly, if it's also about the news, sure, why not? Go for it. But it can be about anything you'd like. Let's spin the wheel. Oh, this is so cute. I knew that was going to happen. Eugene, you have one minute. What would you like to rant about? I don't even need a minute. What I want is for these members of Congress to stop sexually harassing their staffs. These people... Men, women, and otherwise. These folks, young people, come to this city in order to try to find a job because they care about this country, they care about policy, they care about how politics impacts people's lives, and then they have to deal with their boss's boss's boss, rubbing their ass, telling them to come to the dinner, calling them inappropriate times, kissing on them when they don't want it. It's a problem. And then he's a star. Wow, that was good. I kind of wish I would have went first now. He's right. He's right. It's insane. Is he? I disagree. Yeah. Yeah, he's got their number. Wasn't it Lauren Boebert who was walking out being like, why is everybody so horny here? And I'm like, ma'am, theater. You jerked somebody off at Beetlejuice. Physician, heal thyself. He's like, pop me kettle, child. You are not your best messenger. It'd take one to know one, right? Game recognized game. She was just blocking it, okay? She was just blocking it. But that was just consensual at a fun concert. No power dynamics at Beetlejuice other than... As far as I'm aware, it was just sort of two people having a blast. They seemed like they were both into it. At a family event. All right, let's spin it again. Simone what would you like to rant about you have 60 seconds um okay so I just think we keep talking about how like oh the president is erratic his strategy seems uh confused the president is not okay there's something wrong with Donald Trump and I just feel like we should all just start saying it it's not controversial to say it I want the people to stop sane washing him. There is no strategy. There is no there, there. It doesn't make sense because he's not all right. The man goes off on tangents about seals and dolphins and milk and whatever he sees in the fucking street. Like it doesn't make sense. And he has been this way for a very long time, but people have excused his erraticness. I don't know what's going on with the president, but something is going on with him. He is not okay. Susie Wiles, tap in, help us save grandpa. I want to know what's going on with Donald Trump. Is he in charge? Is he making the decisions? Did somebody else take us to war? And I'm not talking about Prime Minister Netanyahu. Who in the White House is making the decisions? Let's spin it again. Is that an old picture? You know what, Eugene? You know what, Eugene? Are his questions good now? You know what, Eugene? I was even-handed. I had your back. I fucking defended you. Must be nice. We're your building coalitions. What do you do? Look, I have a serious topic, obviously on par with what Simone and Eugene had talked about. there's a button on the side of the iPhone that simply should not be there. It seems to be very sensitive, and it's designed to open the camera whenever. It's, if you press it again, It may take a picture. It may not. It's very sensitive and delicate, except when you're trying to take a picture, at which point it does not do anything. Tim Cook announced he's stepping down. He was at the Melania premiere, and I hold him responsible. Eugene Daniel, Simone Sanders-Townson Thank you so much for being here You can check out Simone as the co-anchor of MS Now As the weeknight, airing weeknights at 7 And Eugene, the senior Washington reporter And co-anchor of MS Now As the weekend, airing Saturdays and Sundays From 7 to 10 a.m. Eugene and Simone, thank you so much Thank you And we'll be right back Check out their podcast, Clock It And watch them on MS Now Hey, don't go anywhere There's more of Love It or Leave It coming up. Love It or Leave It is brought to you by Helix. Sleep, oh boy, so important. Love sleep. A good night's rest can set you up for a great day. I have lots of sleep issues. I have trouble falling asleep. Sometimes I wake up. Staying asleep. Dog's moaning. Dog's got sleep issues now. We all got sleep issues. 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But tonight, I want to open the floor to your second thoughts. These can be second thoughts about this very program or second thoughts about your own lives. Whatever you'd like. If you have a good second thought, please raise your hand. I'm going to come out there. Let's bring up the lights. Who has a second thought? Oh, you have a second thought. I do. I was just going to say, I think you can change what that button does in your phone settings. Who has a second thought? Hi. The first time I came here to see you three years ago, I insulted you and you cut me off. Are these people really Democrats or are they just fun time Democrats? Oh, like everyone here? you think you gotta be you gotta be democrat all the time win or lose especially when we lose no when we lose i think we should point fingers cast them out and find new democrats i'm a democrat the whole time always i think some people are and some people not we need them all i don't care if they're democrats or not i want them to vote for democrats I don't need them to be Democrats. I just want to make sure they vote at the time is right. You know what I'm saying? Oh, you have a second thought? After 2015, I re-registered from a Democrat to an independent because of how they treated Bernie Sanders. Sorry. But I'm a progressive. Should I re-register as a Democrat to vote in the D.C. primary? Sure. Absolutely. Absolutely. Let's do it. Okay, what's your second thought? So I'm curious about four people you would put on Mount Rushmore. Oh, boy. I'll think about that. I'll think about that. I know you love a good land acknowledgement, but, you know, Mount Rushmore was originally designed to destroy the sacred Black Hills for the Sioux tribe. So I feel that that's important to acknowledge. I'm glad you brought that up, too. And I knew that that was in there, but I didn't have the facts about it. But it was part of my resentment towards the mountain. Hi, what's your second thought? Hell yes for the yes, though. And also, I think we could have hated Thomas Jefferson a little bit more. Okay. Okay. I think we hated Chuck Schumer the right amount. Do you have a second thought? How much should the left blame Joe Rogan for all of their problems? Ooh. I don't think we can blame Joe Rogan for all of our problems. I don't think we can blame anyone for all of our problems except our mothers. I'm having second thoughts that I have more hope that it's going to go well in the midterms. From someone from Australia, we're watching and we're loving what's happening here. So thank you. Okay. Australia. Let me go over there. I'm coming around to that side and then we'll call it. I'm coming around. Who has second thoughts over here? Does anybody have a second thought over here? Okay. I'm a middle school science teacher, and I'm trying to teach science right now to children. And I'm having second thoughts about that because I have had a thing I've taught for 15 years about what pseudoscience is, and that included aliens, but now apparently those are real. I think you should just got to set stuff on fire and then use that time when they're paying attention to get all the information to them. You got to just set stuff on fire. Yeah, that's the coolest part about science teaching, I think. Anybody have a second thought over here? Okay, let's do a couple more. I think we have a second thought about the term kitchen table issues. If you are trans, if you're gay, if you work for USAID, you're having a pretty sparse kitchen table right now. And the fact that people differentiate in silo one issue from the other is really problematic. Well, presumably, I would, I mean, interesting. I would just say trans people have kitchen tables, and the kitchen table issues are their issues too. Trans people got to eat. I'm always saying this. Oh, hi. I have second thoughts about being a wellness girly because I feel like that's very right-wing coded these days, and I think we really need to take back the wellness culture. I would say right wing coded is as right wing coded does. I don't think eating fruits and vegetables is sort of conservative on any level. And for a while, eating bacon was right wing coded. And I think it still basically is. So I wouldn't worry too much about that. Because honestly, just live your life and be healthy. And then that becomes as coded as whatever you are. That's what I think about that. All right. Thank you all for joining us tonight. But before we go, there is one second thought I don't want us to have, which is that we get really, really, really close to winning the House and Senate. But it just doesn't break our way in the end. Applaud if you are from or know someone from Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Iowa, Ohio, Arizona. we have competitive races that will decide control not only of the House but of the Senate. Talk to your people. It is the time. Now is the time. Remind your friends, families, and neighbors about the stakes and remind them that their vote will make a difference. Sharing information, donating to places that actually put your money to good use. These things can decide the outcome of the election. And so tonight I'm asking everybody here, when you walk your beautiful asses into the lobby. Talk to our incredible volunteers at the Vote Save America table. They will get you signed up. If you haven't signed up yet to be a part of this community, we can win. 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