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Hidden History: Crimes, Conspiracies and Cover-Ups

49 min
Feb 26, 2026about 2 months ago
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Summary

Donald Jeffries, author of Hidden History, discusses major political conspiracies, cover-ups, and assassinations throughout American history. He analyzes the COVID-19 pandemic response, government stimulus spending, Trump's presidency as a potential controlled opposition psyop, and presents evidence suggesting JFK Jr.'s death was not an accident but an assassination.

Insights
  • Government uses infiltration and controlled opposition tactics to manage dissent, with Trump potentially serving as a 'Emmanuel Goldstein' figure to channel populist energy without delivering substantive change
  • Mainstream media has abandoned investigative journalism, functioning primarily as a conduit for government and intelligence agency talking points rather than independent news gathering
  • Economic stimulus and pandemic policies disproportionately benefited the wealthy and large corporations while devastating small business owners and the middle class through selective policy implementation
  • The Kennedy family deaths follow a pattern suggesting systematic elimination of political threats, with JFK Jr. targeted specifically as he prepared to investigate his father's assassination
  • Government secrecy and document suppression (JFK files, UFO records) indicates coordinated cover-ups of major historical events, with recent UFO disclosure potentially preparing public for staged false flag operations
Trends
Erosion of investigative journalism and rise of state-controlled media narratives in mainstream outletsGrowing populist skepticism toward institutional authority and official narratives across political spectrumStrategic use of psyops and controlled opposition to neutralize genuine grassroots political movementsWealth concentration accelerating through selective government bailouts and stimulus targeting elite beneficiariesIncreasing government transparency theater (UFO disclosures) potentially masking deeper classified operationsMiddle class economic displacement through policy design favoring corporate consolidation over small businessHistorical revisionism and memory-holing of documented events through media coordination and document suppressionCross-ideological conspiracy theory adoption as institutional trust declines across left-right political divide
Companies
Amazon
Platform where Jeffries' book Hidden History is sold in multiple formats including Kindle, audiobook, hardcover, and ...
Harvard University
Received millions in government stimulus funds despite being wealthy institution, exemplifying selective corporate/in...
CDC
Cited as source claiming 94% of COVID deaths attributed to other causes, contradicting official pandemic severity nar...
People
Donald Jeffries
Author of Hidden History and conspiracy researcher discussing political assassinations, cover-ups, and government con...
Mark Lane
High-profile JFK assassination researcher and Warren Report critic who mentored Jeffries as a teenager in the 1970s
JFK Jr.
Kennedy family member whose 1999 plane crash Jeffries argues was assassination, not accident, based on witness testimony
Donald Trump
Former president analyzed by Jeffries as potential controlled opposition actor assigned role to neutralize populist m...
Mike Pence
Trump's VP pick criticized as neocon deep state operative whose selection alienated Trump's gay supporters and populi...
Roger Stone
Political operative and Trump associate who wrote foreword to Jeffries' Hidden History and promoted Trump to him in 2014
Cynthia McKinney
Former congresswoman and Jeffries associate whose VP candidacy was rejected by Trump campaign as 'communist'
Andrew Kaufman
Medical professional interviewed on Jeffries' show questioning official COVID-19 narrative and pandemic response
John Rappaport
Medical researcher appearing on Jeffries' show to discuss alternative perspectives on COVID-19 pandemic
Sherry Tenpenny
Medical professional whose show Jeffries was scheduled to appear on to discuss pandemic and health policy
Laura Eisenhower
Dwight Eisenhower's granddaughter who appeared on Jeffries' show discussing alleged alien briefings and government UF...
Nikki Haley
Trump's UN ambassador and former Trump critic criticized as neocon war hawk prioritizing Israel over America-first po...
John Bolton
Trump's national security advisor described as psychopath and war hawk who advocated military intervention globally
Steve Bannon
Trump strategist who was quickly ousted from administration despite being potential independent voice in cabinet
Michael Flynn
Trump's national security advisor removed before taking office and abandoned by Trump despite potential outsider pers...
William Barr
Trump's attorney general who failed to deliver promised arrests and investigations despite Trump's campaign promises
Wayne Madsen
Independent journalist scheduled to interview JFK Jr. for George Magazine investigation into JFK assassination before...
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Kennedy family member recently becoming bold in discussing JFK assassination, contrasting with other family members' ...
Ron Paul
Libertarian politician who wrote foreword to Jeffries' book Crimes and Cover-Ups in American Politics
Cindy Sheehan
Anti-war activist and 'International Peace Mom' who provided endorsement blurb for Jeffries' Hidden History
Quotes
"I never even dreamed that things would go to the extreme they are now. At this point, nothing surprises me that happens because I think Americans have shown over and over again that they don't have a tipping point."
Donald Jeffries
"The best way to control the opposition is to lead it. Vladimir Lenin came up with that idea a long time ago."
Donald Jeffries
"If you've read 1984, so many parallels to 1984 going on now with Orwell. I believe Trump is our Goldstein because what would happen the party members every day, they would go and they would have what they called a two-minute hate."
Donald Jeffries
"They didn't need a single troop to do it. They didn't need a single cop to do it. It was done without a shot being fired. And we're still here, and it doesn't matter."
Donald Jeffries
"JFK Jr. was bold. He wanted to know the truth. He had a passion to run because of that. And if you remember him, Hollywood movie star looks. He would – the women would have voted for him just on his looks alone."
Donald Jeffries
Full Transcript
Hi there. Thank you for allowing me to be a part of your journey today. I'm your host K-Town and you're listening to Mysterious Radio. My special guest tonight is Donald Jeffries and he's here to discuss his book is called Hidden History, an expose of modern crimes, conspiracies and cover-ups in American politics. Whether it's assassinations of MLK and RFK, Iran-Contra, the Oklahoma City bombing, TWA Flight 800, voting fraud, or 9-11. Every major disaster or war that we've sensitized, he says, has somehow been distorted by those who are supposed to be protecting us. Donald says his book belongs in every conspiracy theorist library, as the information included has never been collected together in any other published work available. And you can get his book right now, Hidden History, an expose of modern crimes, conspiracies and cover ups in American politics right now on Amazon and Kindle, audiobook, hardcover and also paperback. And now, here's my special guest, Donald Jeffries. Well, everything I wrote about in Hidden History and all my subsequent books, I never even dreamed that things would go to the extreme they are now. At this point, nothing surprises me that happens because I think Americans have shown over and over again that they don't have a tipping point, that you can just keep pushing them and pushing them, and they're just not going to question authority. And when you can do something like – basically – and it's just not Americans either. I mean virtually the entire world was shut down over – really, and I've done many shows myself on it, both being interviewed and also my weekly radio show. I've had lots of people like Andrew Kaufman and John Rappaport. I'm going to be on Sherry Tenpenny's show next month. Lots of people out there who are medical people that are saying this is just absolutely ridiculous. I mean when we can look at the situation right now, when the authorities are telling you that – because everybody is saying, what happened to the flu? The flu is gone. The flu in this country has been 98% eliminated. Now, if Americans can't put two and two together there, that the flu is gone, and yet we have this deadly virus everywhere that we can never take our masks off and have to constantly be on our guard about, listen to all – every new restriction about, I'm sorry. But you have to have some kind of independent thinking. It's obvious what a lot of us were saying all along, that this is maybe a nastier strain of the flu. But that's what it is, and it has been largely. And so the idea that we have shut down not only the country but the world and what was so incredible about it is that they basically shut down everything within probably a week or two at about this time last year, maybe a little lower than that. And they didn't need a single troop to do it. They didn't need a single cop to do it. It was done without a shot being fired. And we're still here, and it doesn't matter. The science – again, I've had people on my show that tell you they have a different coronavirus every fall when flu season hits. What happened to COVID-20? That was supposed to come out last fall. Nobody even – where is it? It doesn't exist. COVID-19 is going to be here forever apparently. COVID-21 is right around the corner. So we've never had these kind of deadly strains allegedly. So I question everything about it. And the CDC themselves, just a couple months ago, matter of factly said, out of the 300, whatever they claim the deaths are attributed to COVID now, 94% of them – this is CDC. It's not a conspiracy theorist saying it. 94% of them were from other causes, that people had other illnesses that killed them. So that puts the numbers at pretty much a normal flu season, and that's what I think it is. So that's – I just think it's amazing that people are still buying into this and they just are clinging to their masks and just the economic damage. Businesses being killed and societal damage, relationships being killed, old people dying, not being able to see their loved ones, marriages being – funerals not being able to hold – I mean this is awful what has happened. And nobody is questioning it. At this point, take your masks off and we'll see what happens in Texas and places like that. I suspect they'll claim their numbers have skyrocketed or something because they're trying to keep this going. And I don't know what the endgame is. I don't know how long they're planning on playing this, but this is something – it's beyond anything I ever – I've been looking at these elites because they conspire. This is what they do on a daily basis for a very long time, but I never thought they would take it to this extreme, but they have. Yeah. What about, you know, I've heard that this is, you know, a game that they play for the middle class and the people that have worked so hard to build these businesses. They're not super rich, but they're, you know, they're they're upper middle class people that are doing very well for themselves, that they are suffering the most. I'm talking about business wise, and they're not able to get the loans and things like that, that these large corporations are getting. So essentially they're getting knocked right back down to the – basically to people that can barely make ends meet. Right, and I think that's why I'm trying to find out more, and I want to write about it, about exactly what was in those trillions of dollars that have been spent for the two. I think – I guess a third stem was supposed to be coming out. Yeah, where did that go? Who got that money? Who got the money? We know the little snippets of it. We heard that somehow Tom Brady got money to buy a new yacht. We know that Dr. Phil got millions of dollars for some unnotarated business. Kanye West got something. Harvard University got a bunch of money. I think the newest proposal they're doing now, somebody said something like 91% of it is not associated with COVID. How can that be? I don't know. And somebody told me – I'm still trying to – I get people send me stuff all the time that told me that it buried in those stimulus bills. And again, these are hundreds if not thousands of pages long. The people that vote on them don't know everything that's in there, so we certainly don't. And during the Trump administration, they all just agreed not to publicize. Hey, we're not going to let you know who got what for the most part. So we don't know. The rumor out there is that the banker bailout of 2008, which they certainly dragged their feet about paying it back. But it's not like some poor guy that couldn't pay his mortgage and got foreclosed on. You get the best. Don't worry about it. Take your time. And from what I've heard, that is buried in the stimulus proposal. They give debt forgiveness for the bankers, whatever they still owe, which was probably most of their money. So, again, something like that, you expose that to the people. And I would think that would cause a lot of anger, but I don't know. You know, people, I don't have much confidence. I'm a populist, but I don't have much confidence left in the people because they've just shown over and over again that they just are, will believe anything. And just going to lay down and take it. Take everything and don't question nothing. Absolutely nothing. No. And also, Donald, what about the people like the people that own real estate properties? You know, that they live off that income and, you know, and then they put that bill in place where or something in place where, you know, they couldn't evict these people during this time, but they can't make their ends meet. So their property is being snatched back from them. This is just this is nuts. Well, again, and that's what that's why populism, the answer to that. I've called for a long time. I believe we need a year at Jubilee. You know, that's the one biblical tradition they all stay away from. This is the forgiveness of all debt, and it used to be a biblical tradition, and we're about 2,000 years or more overdue for one. The world needs one desperately. Certainly, America does. But nobody – some of the far left-wing people in Congress have called for a debt jubilee. I'm fine with that. That's cool. It's a little kind of a watered-down version of that. But what you do is you forgive all the debt, and so I think certainly with people losing their jobs, they shouldn't be evicted, and it's hard for them to pay the rent. But you're right. People own those properties, and they have mortgage payments. So what they should have done and what a populace would have done would have said, okay, you know what? We're not only – we're putting a moratorium on rents right now, a moratorium on evictions, but we're also putting a moratorium on mortgage payments. And so that way everybody's – okay, because we're all affected the same way by this supposedly, but they don't do that. They pick and choose, and that's why you have proposals now where government workers who want to stay home with their children, Unlike the private industry people who are also forced to stay home with their children and watch them take Zoom lessons, somebody needs to be there with them. They're not being paid, but the government workers, they want to pay them, I think, $1,400 a week, not a one-time payment of that. Or $1,400 a month. No, I think it's a week. I think it's a week, which is outrageous. But it's fine if they do it for everybody. But again, they're picking and choosing. And that's the problem that you have is that it's so much inequity in all this. And I think – I was hoping that some of the people in Congress that are far left would do something like demand a debt jubilee because this is the only situation where you might be able to ram something like that through because businesses have collapsed. Everything is – this economic situation is horrible. So maybe this is about the only time you could possibly do it. But it's – they don't want to give us anything. That's why they take so long to give us a one-time $1,400 check. But they can – they'll shovel stuff to the top 1% whenever they can. Again, it's part of my book, Survival of the Richest, talks about that. The system is rigged against – you're right. And the middle class – what's left of the middle class is the middle class being squeezed out of existence. But what's left of it is built up in that home ownership. But now they have the lowered expectations, the new normals, and they're trying to push these millennials into these tiny houses. They're trying to get them used to doing what they do in China, where they shove them into bunk beds and pay them $10 a day. That's what they'd love to do, ideally, in this country. Okay. So, all right. Your book is called Hidden History, an expose of modern crimes, conspiracies, cover-ups, and American politics. So tell me, how long have you been working on this – how long did you work on this book and where did you get the idea from? I consider myself primarily a novelist, but I'm a frustrated novelist. I had one novel published. My first book was called The Unreals, and it has a lot of faction in it. Obviously – but I have other novels that I have not been successful at getting published. So I just turned to nonfiction. I said, well, I don't know anything better than the JFK assassination. I got started as a teenager in the mid-1970s investigating and researching the JFK assassination. And I worked with Mark Lane as a volunteer who was the most high-profile critic of the Warren Report. He was all over the media back in the day. He was my mentor and hero as a civil libertarian. I'm a civil libertarian, and there aren't very many of us left who actually believe and really will fight for the death of free speech of those they disagree with. Nobody believes that anymore. They want to get you fired or canceled if they don't agree with what you say, but civil libertarians do. So he had a great impact on me. I became obsessed with the JFK assassination. I spent years immersed into it And I was writing little things on the side then but of course I was working and starting out So it kind of got put aside but eventually I just started having time to write and it what I always wanted to do So I put together basically bits and pieces of things. What I would do is what I would read. I was a voracious reader. In the days before the internet, I would just read so many books, devour them. And I loved true crime and nonfiction and conspiratorial type of stuff. So I just took notes on all these books and newspapers and things I was reading back then about things like the JFK assassination, MLK, RFK, Oklahoma City, up to 9-11, and all the other events. Because that book goes – believe it or not, Trump isn't even mentioned it because it was published in 2014. So in the era before Trump, it seems like a prehistoric age. So it went through the Obama years. But I just went over all – I don't think I missed too many, but I went over certainly the JFK assassination in a lot of detail, 9-11, a lot of detail. And it also – the book features the first investigation into the death of JFK Jr. No one before me had really delved into that deeply. I talked to people in his inner circle, and I think I proved conclusively that that was another Kennedy assassination. It was no accident, and they definitely knocked him off. So I've got a lot of great feedback from the book. A lot of people that are renowned gave blurbs to it. Cindy Sheehan, the international peace mom. Cynthia McKinney, who was a representative of Congress for several years. Roger Stone ended up writing the foreword to the paperback version. Jerome Corsi is another one on the right that liked it. And eventually it led to Ron Paul writing the foreword to Crimes and Cover-Ups, which is the prequel to this book. So Jesse Ventura, people like – so these are – it appeals to both the left and the right because I'm an equal opportunity. I think they're all corrupt. And I think my book tries to show that these things are connected. So if JFK hadn't been assassinated, for instance, probably MLK wouldn't have been, certainly RFK wouldn't have been, and JFK Jr. wouldn't have been. So these things, just on something like that, they're tied together. And so that's, I think, the gist of the book. And I think it's been sold much better than I ever expected. And it's got lots of reviews and lots of input. And I think it's because people look at it, really, the subtitle originally was not expose, it was encyclopedia. And it is kind of an encyclopedia. And you can go anywhere in the book. It doesn't necessarily have to be in order. And you can look up, you know, I want to read about Waco. I want to read about Oklahoma City. You don't have to do it in order. And I think that's what people love about it. They can keep going back to it. And it's completely documented. And unfortunately, it's an indictment. It is what it is. It's an indictment of the mainstream media and the fact that this book was possible because no mainstream media, they don't investigate anything at all of substance. They just regurgitate talking points from the intelligence agencies and the government. And you're seeing that now. I mean, it's pathetic to watch the mainstream media. They don't do anything. They don't question anything. The only thing you question, they'll question people like me. They question the skeptics. Right. You're exactly right. It's not like back in the day, they're still controlled anyway, But at least, you know, it seemed like they were making some type of effort. You know, it seems like to me like they're getting their their their notes off of a fax or something like that, because they all say the same thing all the time, 24 hours a day across all the networks. So that's very telling right there. All right. I want to ask you about the reason why I've heard about JFK being assassinated because I've heard several reasons why. And I'm wondering if you think it had anything to do with the technology and things that were captured, supposedly captured and held at Roswell and that they had some type of interaction with some beings not from Earth. And he was wanting to divulge that to some other world governments. Well, you know, that's – people have speculated that. And I haven't written a book on that yet, but that's probably in me somewhere because I used to really – the subject that was nearest to my heart as a young guy after the JFK assassination was with the UFOs and the Brevita Triangle and all that stuff. Unexplained phenomena. And the Unreal is my novel. Goes into that a lot, Forte and phenomena. I've changed a lot over here because I have studied UFOs and I've studied these things so much. Obviously, they're definitely a real phenomenon. Thousands, if not millions of people that have seen them are not seeing the planet Venus or Swamp Gas or any of the nonsense the Air Force put out about them to ridicule them for a long time and the media as well. But I don't believe they're from outer space personally. I think they're involved in – there's some kind of deep state government type of thing that's maybe trying to make people believe they're from outer space. I don't know if someone like JFK – and I had Laura Eisenhower, who is Dwight Eisenhower's granddaughter, who's really out there. It's a very interesting character. I had her on my show. She believes, for instance, that Eisenhower was briefed on the aliens and so forth. Later, people said Kennedy and he was going to expose it. I don't – I mean maybe they naively believe that and they were going to say it. I don't know. Maybe JFK was going to do that. But I don't believe there are aliens from outer space there. I believe there's something, and they're trying to make that happen. And what could be interesting is a lot of us in the conspiracy world, we've been saying for a long time, what are they going to do next? Stage the fake alien invasion? That's possible because I think that was – I believe that is the goal. I don't know because I'm not – I don't make predictions, and I'm not in their club, so I don't know what's going on. I can only speculate, but I do know that the messages that people got that talked to occupants that had close encounters over the years was always something like warning of nuclear – warning of don't blow the planet up. And you need to have peace, warning that we weren't doing a good job and that kind of thing. And of course, they're telling people, Brazilian farmers and people, they're not going to where they should go to the leaders. So a lot of it is very dubious, and you get that kind of message out there. So if they wanted – and recently, within the last year, I've written articles about it. I read for the American Free Press as well. And it's very curious because the government has been withholding information about UFOs just like they have about the JFK assassination and other political things forever. They've been covering up constantly and smearing people who see them. Now they're suddenly opening up. And the CIA released all their files and they seem to be preparing the public for something. You see stories about it on Tucker Carlson and shows like that where suddenly the media is really sympathetic to, yes, there's something there. Yeah, there's some substance there. We're not joking or laughing about it anymore. Because they used to talk about it like that in that context. It would come at the end or something and they would say something and then it's a damn joke. They'll laugh about it. But now it's like being reported in dead seriousness now. So you have to wonder why are they doing that now? Right. And I think that if you believe, as some people do, that that may be – I mean, after all they've done the last year, I don't know. But that would be kind of the icing on the cake if they decided to stage a fake alien invasion. Hey, we have to come together. We have to have a one-world government. You do have to throw your guns down because the aliens don't like them. I mean, I don't know. I mean I can only speculate, but I do know that so far, if they're – whatever they're planning, I don't know what their end game is. That's the big why. Who knows what motivates these people? They have all the power they want and all the money they want, but they seem to keep wanting more. And if their motivation is some mystical thing we can't even understand, and they are maybe concerned that there might be maybe the millions of people of Earth or America or whatever would object and would fight them, I think they have to feel pretty confident right now that they've got people scurrying around now and two and three masks on at one time. I saw that. They want people to wear two masks. It's just outrageous. Truly, truly outrageous. Let me ask you this, Donald, because you mentioned deep state. Trump had a press conference and he and Fauci was very evident. They didn't get along. And he told he said something. And so I guess he wanted to give Fauci a moment to speak to the press. But he said, I'm gonna let him talk now so he can get back to the deep state about fell out of my chair. For one, I've never heard a president actually ever say that. But the press never, they never blinked. They never said, hey, wait a minute. What do you mean by a deep state? That is very telling. You know, I mean, why would anyone question him on that unless they were they already know or they've been told, you know, to ignore things like that because they really know what's going on. The higher ups really know what's going on. Well, they do know what's going on. They don't want to go anywhere near – especially with Trump because Trump was – I mean I've written so much about Trump. And again, I'm a Trump agnostic. We're the smallest minority group in the country. There's almost none of us as a matter of fact. But I mean I had high hopes just as far as his rhetoric. I thought some of his rhetoric was revolutionary. But early on, I could see this is – and I was doubtful that this billionaire that had been a lifelong friend of the Clintons and Epstein and all these people that was going to come in and do this. But you never know. And Roger Stone, who contacted me before Roger Stone really went in the limelight. I wasn't even sure who he was. This was back like 2014 and told me how much he loved hidden history, the book we're talking about. And I was very – I knew he was associated with Nixon in some way. I wasn't – I knew he'd written a book. He had my same publisher. He had written a book on LBJ, postulating LBJ was behind the JFK assassination. So he's an interesting guy, and he was very complimentary towards me. And he was talking about Trump, who has been his friend forever, 30 years or whatever. And he said he's going to run for president. I said, oh, wow. And he said, you would love this guy. He said he knows about all the conspiracies. That's exactly what he told me. So I started paying attention because I knew Roger Stone believed in – 9-11 was an inside job, and he believed in all these things, and he loved history. He wrote the foreword to it. So he's basically putting his stamp of approval on everything that's in that book, and if you've read the book, you know how extreme it is. I'm calling him out for everything. And so that would indicate that – so I thought, well, it's not – with our system being rigged and closed to outsiders, about really the only kind of real outsider we could ever get would be a rogue billionaire like Ross Perot back in the 90s or Donald Trump. Right. Well, you mentioned voter fraud, and I know you talk about that in your book. So who would rig it so he could get in there? Or is it that they didn't want Hillary Clinton in there? Well, I said at the time, that's when I stopped making any kind of predictions because that floored me. I didn't see Donald Trump being elected. That absolutely shocked me. I mean I still don't understand it because Hillary Clinton was the queen of corruption, the head of the – the queen of the deep state. I have no idea what that – all I can think of, and that's when I started coming up and I've written articles about it where I called it the Trump and Stein Project. where I believe he was created. I believe Trump was an actor. And I think he was put into position to play this role. And they decided to put it in the White House against all the odds because they knew his personality, especially the way they scripted it. Wait a minute. Who's they? Who's they? Oh I think it they the people that we talking about in the book that we don the elite the Illuminati I mean whatever you want to call them I don know what they call themselves but the people that meet every year at Bilderberger the people that gather in the woods at Bohemian Grove We know they do these things. It's on the record. Council of Foreign Relations, all these – I mean, they're people that – and probably people that we don't know the names of. I mean, we don't know, for instance, very much about the Rothschilds, but we know they're there and they have unimaginable wealth. Yeah, but it seems like Trump was against these people being that so many things that he was doing, you know, we have never seen another president say or do some of the things that he kind of like bucked the system per se. Like even with the ventilators, all these doctors were saying, you know, they don't people don't need to be on ventilators. It damages their lungs. And therefore, sooner or later, they're going to die. And Trump saying, I don't believe you know, New York City was really wanting like 30,000 ventilators or something. And then Trump said, you know, I don't believe you need that many ventilators. He was totally against it. So to me, it seemed like he was trying to not help them kill people. You know what I'm saying? But if if you're saying that they put him in there and he was against them. So I'm wondering, like, why would they do that? Well, I think this is where you look into this is this is the nature of psyops. They create things. Vladimir Lenin a long time ago, he was the one who came up with the idea the best way to control the opposition is to lead it. And that's why if you read Hidden History, you know I have a whole section in there about fake opposition in the 60s, about how the government infiltrated groups like the Black Panthers and the KKK. They've done that forever, and they're doing it now. You can guarantee that Antifa and the Proud Boys and all these – they're all completely full of government infiltrators. That's what they've always done. They control any possible opposition to them. So they get – and of course not everybody in those groups are – most of them aren't government people, and they believe whatever they believe. But they're controlled and manipulated because most people are followers, and that's why when you have riots or whatever, it just takes someone that has government ties to throw the first Molotov cocktail or torch the first building or smash the first window. And the people follow. That's what they do. They just don't. And so that's the way they control all this stuff. So I believe that they manipulated. They looked out there and they saw that, OK, there's a lot of populism out there. There's a lot of populist rebellion out there. And you saw that with Bernie Sanders. Bernie Sanders had a lot of populism on his side too. Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump were by far the two most popular candidates. And if they could somehow coalesce and come together in their common interest, there would be a force that couldn't be. But they couldn't because they're arguing over other things. So they decided they wanted to try to get rid of this populism or control it the way they control other groups. So they put an actor, I believe. Trump was assigned a role, and his rhetoric sounded great. I mean it fooled me. I voted for him. It was revolutionary. I mean some of the stuff he said. He'd been saying stuff I had been saying at parties for years. I never thought I'd hear anybody call out the infrastructure and the stupid trade deals and the fake unemployment rate and all this stuff. But what happened when he got in office? The first thing he got in – really the first rally he held afterwards is people started chanting, lock her up. And he said, no, no, no. We don't need that. That played well during the campaign. She's good people. That's what he said. And he named Mike Pence as his vice presidential candidate. Very telling. A neocon died in the heart of – Wait, stop right there. What do you mean by – because I don't know a lot about Mike Pence, but why do you say that's very telling? Well, because knowing a little bit about Mike Pence's background – and I can tell you, for instance, I had at least three gay people that I know who were very much attracted to Trump. As soon as he picked Pence, boom, they started hating him. They developed early cases of Trump derangement syndrome. And it was because Pence is – he's like enemy number one in the gay community. And I really know why, but he's very, very strictly religious but in such a constructionist way that – you remember early on he said he wouldn't sit down at a table and have lunch with a woman that wasn't his wife. Exactly. Yes, yes. That kind of thing. So I mean he's so old-fashioned that this is something – nobody can relate to that in modern life. It's ridiculous. He's very staunch. Well, I think he actually publicly came out and said he doesn't support gay marriage and things like that. Yes, exactly. So – and again, that's not even – I don't even care about that issue. But Trump lost votes, so it was a stupid political move. And it gained him no votes at all because – they said, well, he got the evangelists. Well, the evangelists were going to vote for Hillary Clinton. They were never going to vote. So he was going to get those votes regardless. And I actually tried to – because I had a connection to Trump's campaign and Cynthia McKinney, who was – I don't know if you know her, but she's one of my favorite people in the world. But she's a very strong-willed black woman who was in Congress for – amazing. I don't know how they ever let you in Congress because she is really – she's the real deal. And her and I hit it off very well. She's been on my show a couple of times, and I message her and email her often. So I was messaging her one day, and Trump hadn't picked his vice presidential candidate yet. And I said, that would be a real great unity ticket because it would kill all the claims that Trump was racist and a misogynist in one swoop. Because she's not Candace Owens or somebody they can smear. This is a really radical black woman. And I said, that would be incredible. I mean Trump would win in a landslide, and she loved the idea. She said, I would be honored to be his vice presidential candidate. And I was kind of amazed, so I contacted my little person in the – and was shot down immediately. Just said, she's not – she's a communist and not a very bright one. That was – I said, what? So I could tell right then I had no confidence because they just seemed to be doing stupid things like that. I started seeing his other appointees. They were all deep state, dyed in the wool. I said early on I'd like to see a poll taken of how many people in his administration voted for him. Nikki Haley, his UN ambassador, who he first offered the secretary of state to, was one of the most vocal member-truppers. She hated him. Was very vocal about it and was – she wanted to – she is so far up Israel's butt. I mean she is such a neocon war hawk. She wants to go – she was like John McAniac. She wanted to go to war with everybody. And so how does that jibe with Trump saying these senseless wars and we've got to bring – we've got to put America's interests first? That's your representative in foreign policy? So I said, what is that? But that makes no sense. Let me ask you this because, Donald, I've always wondered, like, are they truly choosing who they want in their cabinet or are these people placed in there? Do they have much say about that or no? Well, that is – and that's – excuse me. I mean I've gotten into arguments with Trump people. Oh, he had to pick who they – well, I don't know about that because we have other people. You go back to Kennedy. JFK had plenty of establishment people in his cabinet, but he had what he called the Irish Mafia. He had – his brother Bobby was the most important pick as attorney general. He had Dave Powers and Kenny O'Donnell and Lawrence O'Brien who were basically political cronies of his. They were his close advisors. That's who he really had skull sessions with. That's who he really talked – Jimmy Carter had the Georgia mafia. Again, he had a little coterie of loyal people around him. But Ronald Reagan even, who was closest to Trump and not – having his rhetoric not living up to his record. He was another one that didn't do what he said, and then the people – again, his base loved him and didn't seem to notice. But he had Pat Buchanan. He had Paul Craig Roberts, a young guy who was still around. He had a few people that were independent enough. But Trump had nobody. I mean absolutely – there's not a – the closest one was maybe Bannon who – but Bannon was eventually – He didn't ban and leave later on? I mean he didn't stay there very long. Yeah, he didn't stay there. No, he didn't stay there long. He was ousted. General Flynn might have been an outsider, but he was – before he even got in there, he was gone, and Trump basically threw him under the bus. He eventually named somebody like John Bolton, who was a psychotic bully, who was – I mean an actual psychopath. This guy is absolutely nuts, and he's – he even went beyond McCain. I mean he just wanted to go to war with everybody. He's – and not only that, he's – again, he's a bully personally too. He bullied somebody in other countries. And Trump kind of made fun of him the whole time, but that was the Trump game. And that's what I started analyzing. OK, what is Trump doing here? He tweets – if you look at what he did on Twitter, he tweeted a real strong game. And if he had governed like he tweeted, he might have been the greatest president since George Washington. But he didn't. He just tweeted and threatened, oh, maybe I'll bring the troops up. Maybe I'll close the border. Maybe I'll do this. Maybe I'll do that and never did it. Maybe – a lot of people think Julian Assange should be pardoned. What happened? When he had a chance, he didn't pardon any of these people. So that was the problem is Trump kept saying – and most people don't realize he actually deported fewer illegals than Barack Obama did when push came to shove. And he kept so many holdovers from the Obama administration in there, which other administrations would have immediately gotten rid of. You can bet whatever Trump holders are in there, Biden has already gotten rid of. I guarantee it. But Trump didn't do it. And then he puts William Barr after Jeff Sessions. And again, he was so dependent on the attorney general because he had promised these arrests. And you had the QAnon people out there, I believe, was another part of the PSYOP. I think the Q thing was an intelligence agency for PSYOP from start to finish. It was – and it was designed because already you had lots of people that supported Trump, like me, were saying – questioning what is he – he's not doing anything. Where's the executive order to end birthright citizenship? Where's the executive order to end DACA? Where's the executive order to end the H-1B visa workers program, to end the sanctuary cities? All these things he promised. And look at what Biden's doing. Biden's cranking out one executive order after the other. Trump did nothing. He just talked and tweeted. And he held rallies, and that satisfied his followers who just – and said fake news, which it is fake news. But you need to be doing something. He had four years to do that. And look at what happened with this – because the big argument with people would give me is, well, he's got three Supreme Court justices. Well, look what his Supreme Court justices did. They all went against him in the clear-cut evidence of vote fraud in the 2020 election. It doesn't get much more obvious. Over 1,000 sworn affidavits from people testified to seeing it, and they wouldn't even hear it. All three of his appointees turned his back on him. And then recently, this didn't get much news. They rejected him again because belatedly, Biden was trying to dismiss Trump's very weak attempts to question the sanctuary cities, which of course – it's ridiculous. They should not be allowed to exist. But Trump did too little too late there, and the Supreme Court upheld Biden's motion to dismiss it. Again, Trump is supposed to have – we're told by the left, oh my god, he packed the court. He's got a five to four majority. Well, not one time did they go in his favor when he had the five to four majority. So again, the choices he made to the Supreme Court were just as bad as the choices he made for his appointment. So ultimately, it's left to – what was his record? And his record really was not a very good one. He does have all the right enemies. I'll give him that. And it does seem like – and lots of people – not everybody is in on it. There are a lot of people that don't really – they think maybe he was legitimate, but I believe the whole thing was engineered to make it look like – if you've read 1984, so many parallels to 1984 going on now with Orwell. Orwell had a character called Emmanuel Goldstein who was the voice he was the face and the voice of the opposition to Big Brother I believe Trump is our Goldstein because what would happen the party members every day, they would go and they would have what they called a two-minute hate. They would see Goldstein's face and hear his voice and they'd go crazy. If you look at people that hate Trump, that's what they do when they see his face and hear his voice, except for it's not two minutes, it's 24-7. But Goldstein in 1984 was a fake. He was not really opposition, and I believe that's what Trump is. Unfortunately, I'd like to believe, but people want to have somebody riding in on a white horse, and unfortunately, it's not Trump. I don't know if there is anybody out there at this point that can do it. I don't either. That's a good question. Me and you both, we don't know. So we'll just have to hang in there and try and see. I want to talk to you about the death of John F. Kennedy Jr. And of course, for those that don't know how he died and who he was, give us a little background about him and then what you think was the reason behind it and how would they accomplish that since he was in a plane crash. Well, JFK Jr. was, and again, I've studied the Kennedys for a very long time. And when I did this book, I actually took the time to update most of the information out there questioning the official narrative and the death of JFK Jr. came from early reports by some independent researchers in 1999, which is when he crashed. There had been almost no updates about it since then. So I had to look into it. I contacted some of the local reporters. One of the local reporters told me he always thought there was something fishy about it. I talked to a member of his – to his high school girlfriend who told me that he had a quest to find out who killed his father. And behind the scenes, he was obsessed with it. I talked to a member of his adult inner circle who very strongly wanted to remain anonymous who told me that, yes, that was true behind the scenes. He talked about it all the time. So – and I knew from Wayne Madsen who's another independent journalist. He told me he was scheduled to – he had an appointment. He was to meet a job interview with JFK Jr. a few days after he unfortunately died. And he was going to be hired by George Magazine, which was the magazine JFK Jr. was publishing at the time. And his assignment was going to be an investigation into the assassination of his father. So just imagine – and we also know from really light on the scenes that JFK Jr., he was only 38 when he died. People forget how young he was. He was about to embark on a political career. That was the purpose of George magazine. He was gradually working up to it to work – kind of to highlight and promote his eventual political career. And he was going to build it around an investigation and expose into who killed his father. Now, that's out of Hamlet. I mean that is huge. Imagine the earth-shattering impact of that on the establishment. So I don't know how long maybe it took because he kept it – his inner circle was very good about keeping his interest in the JFK assassination secret. And all the other members of the Kennedy family have been hardly profiles encouraged until recently. Now, Robert RFK Jr. is getting very bold, but it took him a while to get there. But before that, nobody – Caroline Kennedy's sister just literally – she freezes up if you even mention it. But none of the other Kennedys were. But JFK Jr. was bold. He wanted – he cared about who killed his father. He wanted to know the truth. And he had a passion to run because of that. And if you remember him, Hollywood movie star looks. He would – the women would have voted for him just on his looks alone, to be honest with you. A lot of them would have. And not a hint of scandal. You know, very – everybody who ever met him just said – incredibly nice guy, just treated everybody very well. So he would have been a shoo-in. He could have just snapped his fingers and become president of the United States. So they were terrified of that because – but they would be terrified even today of Caroline Kennedy becoming president even though they know she is – doesn't say anything about the assassination because they know blood is thicker than water. and the Greek tragedies and all the things in the past. They understand how people like to seek revenge for something that was done to their parents or grandparents or whatever. And JFK Jr. felt that. So they didn't want to let him anywhere near the levers of power. So they took his very keen interest in flying and the fact that he was flying himself, and they used it to sabotage him and kill him. I have lots of evidence in the book that shows that. And if readers can do what I mean to do. Just give us a little bit. I mean do you think they put something to make the plane go down mechanically? Is that what you mean? Yeah. I think they probably blew it up because you had a couple witnesses. One heard an explosion in the sky and another one saw an explosion in the sky. The one that heard it was a lawyer, Victor Permanek, who was interviewed and just kind of seems to have disappeared in the memory hall now. The other guy was a reporter for the Hyannis Port Gazette, a very small newspaper, who told this reporter I talked to – talked about, yeah, I saw an explosion in the sky at the exact same time. It was obviously Kennedy's plane. That reporter has never been identified. I tried. I talked to the paper. The editor – again, you're talking about cover-ups. This was 15 years later, and they said they didn't know what I was talking about. They didn't – I mean because his story – and that had to be the biggest story that ever came out of the Hyannisport Gazette. It's basically like a little newsletter for the rich people in Hyannisport. And it talked about their reporter was out on the beach and saw this, and UPI took it. So it was a national story. There's no way this editor – and of course I couldn't argue with her too much, but she was lying clearly. And I said, well, OK, I don't understand. How could this possibly – could it have been mixed up with another paper? But she stopped answering me. So the cover-up is really huge there. That's an important thing. But the most important evidence is that – and I have hours of VHS coverage of – I didn't cover – I was fortunate. Again, people send me stuff. Even back then, there was a researcher in Texas who home recorded off his television set live coverage of the search for JFK Jr. from one of the local television stations in Massachusetts. And he sent me hours of this. And it's fascinating to watch because over and over again, they talk about a 9.39 p.m. phone call from JFK to the FAA waiting landing instructions. Now, we're told eventually the story became that JFK Jr.'s plane went into a death spiral suddenly at 9.39 p.m., the exact moment he was calling and awaiting landing instructions and reporting everything was fine. So they had to take that – and not only did they have repeated references to it, and UPI reported it, all the national ABC, they all reported it. But the Coast Guard sent out a petty officer, a spokesman, Todd Bergen, and he was interviewed on air. I had the interview. Now, I tried to get the reporter, Susan Warnock, who did that interview. She wouldn't answer my emails because I said, what did you think about this? Because he was sent by the Coast Guard to talk specifically about the 9.39 p.m. phone call. So the Coast Guard doesn't send somebody to talk about a phone call that never happened because the important thing is once the government came in and took control of the investigation, once the bodies and the plane records were found, they instantly threw the 9.39 p.m. phone call down the memory hall and said, no, he never communicated with you. And of course, the reporters then as now, they were gutless. And that local reporter that I have tape of her talking to him is so gutless she wouldn't answer me. She should have been up in arms and her bosses should have been up in arms because they should have said, wait a minute. The Coast Guard sent somebody talking about that. How are you saying the conversation never existed? But we have no investigative journalism in this country. And so they were all just thrown down the memory hole. It was very detailed about it. Clearly, something was going on. I mean, there's lots of other things that reasons to suspect it as well. But you know what? Let me jump in here real quick. I saw it. I think they did like a reenactment of it. I can't remember. Maybe A&E talked about it. But they put it out there like that. They put it out there like he was on when he was going up the coast there. They kept saying he was very, you know, he's inexperienced as far as. Yeah, he didn't. He couldn't. He wasn't experienced flying at night. And in the end, he suffered from, you know, like vertigo because, you know, when the sun goes down, you know, and then he did this death spiral thing kind of like the helicopter pilot did. The weather was – yeah. The weather was bad. It should have never flown. And again, my book, I contacted the guy, Edward Meyer, who wrote the official weather report for that night for the FAA. So you can't get much more of an expert than that. And he was mad at the time. I had quotes from him on the record calling out the media for their disinformation, saying the weather wasn't bad that night. What are you talking about? He wasn't inexperienced. And he reiterated in an email to me, he's just as mad as he was then. He said, absolutely. He said, the weather was not mad. You could go online back then. Now they would probably censor it because the internet is increasingly controlled, unfortunately. That's another big problem. Oh, yeah. They scrubbed that out of there. Yeah. But back then, you could find lots of sites that would show you the radar and showed you how the weather actually was. But instead, the television networks would try out these so-called experts or people that claim they've flown, and it was all to demonize Kennedy to make it seem, as they do with all Kennedys, when they're reckless. They shouldn't have done it. Why did he do this? Of course, he was in over his head. He was inexperienced. I quote from one of his flight instructors that said, hey, he was great. He was a very careful pilot. He was not inexperienced. And so people can read – you can look at the people that actually knew it best, the actual experts, and juxtapose that against the talking heads and the absurd state-controlled journalists, alleged journalists, that are just trotting out disinformation. Because the evidence, again, shows that there was no accident, and especially when you factor in the history of the Kennedy family. In Hidden History, I go over all the deaths of the Kennedy family because a lot of them have been forgotten. It's remarkable, the numbers of the – I mean, nobody in Greek tragedy could possibly approach what the Kennedy families have gone through as far as unnatural deaths. And I don't know why that is, why they keep killing them, but they do. And JFK Jr. was killed by the same people that killed his father and his uncle. There's no question about it. Unreal. I'll tell you what. I'm going to have the links in the show notes. But before we go, I want you to tell my listeners, Donald, where they can keep up with anything else you're working on. Well, my blog is Keeping It Unreal after my novel, The Unreal. And it's donaldjeffries.wordpress.com. It gets good traffic. A lot of my articles end up on Lou Rockwell, a big libertarian website out there. My latest book is Bullyocracy, How the Social Hierarchy Enables Bullies to Rule Schools, Workplaces, and Society at Large. That came out last year, and I have a book coming out about showbiz called On Borrowed Fame, which will be published later this year. So I write about a lot more than politics, but by far my most two popular books are Hidden History and The Crimes and Cover-Ups in American Politics, 70, 76, and 1963, which was kind of the prequel. It came out a couple of years after Hidden History and has a forward by Ron Paul. So there's – people Google me. They can find out probably more than they would want to know about me, but there's a lot of stuff out there about me. Got you. All right. I'll definitely have to bring you back on the show. Donald, many blessings to you. I really appreciate your time. Well, thanks for having me. Thank you. To find out more about our guest and all others, please visit our website at mysteriousradio.com.