Victor Davis Hanson: Identity Politics Is Driving America Backward

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If you like Jasmine Crockett and if you like half the Black Caucus, cannot finish the sentence without saying white, white, white, and the whole intention of the civil rights movement, according to Martin Luther King, the architect book later was to downplay race. Content of her character, not the color of our skin, but it has been accentuated with DEI. She's also an abject racist. All she talks about is white, white, white, white people, white people, white people, white people. Well, I said ignoramus without being defamatory, but evidential. She doesn't understand the law. Welcome back. This is Victor Davis-Hanson in his own words. You can find Victor on his website, victorhanson.com. The name of the website is the Billion of Perseus, and you should come join us there for $65 a year or $6.50 a month, if you just want to give a few months a try. Everything that Victor does is posted there, so all of his articles and podcasts and interviews. And so you can find just about everything there. Victor, so let's start with Iran and an update on Iran. I know that Donald Trump has started strikes, and that Iran is interestingly belligerent in telling Israel that it had better stop whamming the Hezbollah in southern Lebanon. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. As I said last time on our show, there's something I don't understand. Apparently Donald Trump must have information that we the public don't, because otherwise the sudden abbreviated revaluation of the bombing campaign at 38 days followed by what, 60 days, in which we had sort of kind of maybe negotiations, and he got confident. And apparently what was happening was the so-called moderate elected officials were assuring him that they were going to concede to giving up the nuclear enrichment. To dismantle the vestigial missile fleet, to stop funding the terrorist, the Arab terrorist. And then to ensure the international control, reversing to international waters on the strait. And they either had no power or they were paying duplicitous good cop why the Revolutionary Guard was continuing to hit Kuwait, UAE, Oman, Gukar, Saudi, Israel. And we were not responding forcefully. And there was a word that was used by the administration. I was very worried about proportionate. I hope they meant it in the context as if they hit us, then we proportionate in the sense that we reply, but it should be disproportionate. No war was ever won by portion, portionality. It's disproportionality. So I hope they understand that we should have a 10 times magnitude of retaliation. So they send a missile at a U.S. carrier. Trump said, well, they were tapping, tapping, but, and then he said, but it didn't hurt anybody. He didn't, that doesn't matter. That was their intent was to hurt people. It was our skill that prevented it, not their intent that stopped it. So we have to have a policy. And I hope he gives them just a sheet of paper and it says, each time you launch a missile, this power plant goes out, this bridge goes out, this highway goes out. That's just what it's going to be. And then he follows through and then they will negotiate. And the other thing we don't know is maybe the negotiations are that he feels that the more that they're losing $400 million, if that's true in economic output, the weaker the revolutionary guard will be for prolonging and preventing the negotiations to come to a conclusion. I'm not confident about that exegesis. I think that we're too close to the midterms now. And people have adjusted somewhat, but psychologically the economy is in worse shape than the data suggests. Stock market's good, jobs reports are good, GDP is probably good, foreign investment is great, the tax cuts and deregulation are kicking in. But when you have the gas that high, and remember it's not as high as it was during the Biden administration, but when you have that, that just sends a chill through the economy that's magnified much greater than the actual output loss of income because of paying $1.50 more gallon or something. So he's got to address that. And the only way you can address it is to hit them very, very, very, very, very, very hard. And then they will not have the ability, they have the intent, but you want to ensure they don't have the ability to keep closing the straight and to keep wheeling out these launchers. We should have a continuous, I think, I don't know why we didn't allow the Israelis to join in. They have 300 aircraft. We should tell the Gulf states you have 600. We have over, I think, 1,000 to 1,500. We should have a continuous no-fly zone over Iran. And the first time anybody sees a thing wheel out, blow it up, and then get done with it. And everybody says, well, we can go home. We can go home if you do enough damage. They can stew in their own juice. They've already bragged that they're waiting for Trump to leave, and then they'll have another president that'll let them off the hook. That's an insult, really, if you think about it, to Joe Biden and Barack Obama, which they, both of which they played. So it's time to draw it to a close. And you can do that only by, not by the threat of force, not by negotiations, but the actual use of disproportionate. And if the left says, oh, you're hitting a bridge, you're hitting, just remind them that that's how Bill Clinton brought an end to the 72 bombing campaign, which, if you go back and look at the record, in 1998, there was wide-scale revolt among Republicans and some Democrats that we had been bombing for 50, 50 days, and Milosevic was defiant. And Russia was getting very angry, and they said, World War III, and there's no authorization from Congress, no War Powers Act. And then all of a sudden, he pivoted, and he said, you know what? We're going to hit all the bridges on the Danube. You know what? We're going to hit all of their infrastructure, water, sewer, electrical plants. And they lost power for hours on end, day after day. And that stopped it. And so that's, and Obama, he bombed for seven months, and he did hit, he claimed he didn't hit dual use, but he did. He hit port facilities, he had hit TV stations, he had communication. So I don't know why, I know that we were waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting for the resistance, but they had lost 30,000 to 40,000 people. They were not going to rise up. They're biggest resistors, no doubt. And I hope right now that when he hits, it's time to arm the Kurds and then use smuggle arms into some of the resistance movements. You want to over, you don't want to negotiate with a, it would be in the final days of Germany, you know, they had no ability to resist us, but yet they kept fighting. But nobody said, let's negotiate with them. And the same thing with Japan, they hadn't, they killed 50,000 Americans, excuse me, 50,000 casualties on Okinawa. They had sunk 17 ships. Among the dead were 12,000 toll, but 5,000 seaman. And we had minor harpers. We had burned down 85% of the urban area of Japan with B-29 raids. We had bombed Korea. They had no ability to make war. Then we dropped a bomb on Higashima and then we dropped one on Nagasaki. And still the army was threatened to stage a coup and force the emperor to continue. And based on the casualties at Okinawa, and then calculated for the 7 million people who were under arms on the homeland versus 200,000 Japanese on Okinawa and given the casualties of 50,000, the U.S. Army. And there were a lot of famous people working on that study to calculate casualties. I think there was a lot of, there wasn't just scientists. It was corporate CEO Robert McNamara worked on it as a young man. And they came to the conclusions that if 200,000 had done that much damage and inflicted 50,000, what would 35 times that amount be? And that's where they got up to well over a million and that was conservative. And then we didn't know, and then they collapsed. We said, okay, we're not going to negotiate. It's on conditional surrender and we're going to keep bombing. And the B-29s had enough napalm to destroy every city in Japan. And we had, the problem was with atomic bombs, we didn't really have more than one or two for the next six months. But that's how we broke the back of them. But they were just like around, they were defiant. They said, we're not beaten, we're not beaten. We still have overseas territory in China, et cetera. But you can't, you can't reason with, the only reason that they were willing to negotiate, they were beaten and we didn't let out. Yeah. It seems to me that he should continue your list as you called it, even for signing on to an agreement. Just if you're going to count sign today, then we're taking this out. Get yourself together, sign tomorrow and we're taking this out if you don't. I think he, that's the only way you're going to get a piece. Well, if they hit us really, the first, we should never say to Israel, you can't do this and you can't do that. Not when they're being shelled and they have drones coming in from Lebanon. You always go for the head of the snake. The drones, the Hezbollah, they can't do anything without money and support from Iran. And Iran is afraid of losing that appendage, that leverage. So we should make sure that they don't, and Trump should say, you know what, I'm dealing with you on Iran. I'm not dealing with you on Hezbollah. We don't want you to give anything to Hezbollah. But if you do, the Israelis are going to hit you and why welcome it. And that would change it. You don't want to, I know that he thinks he's close to a deal. And I think he feels that the moderates are playing the role of the defectors from the Maduro regime in Venezuela. In other words, they have a caretaker government that was with Maduro, but they're going to flip them. And we took the oil and put it into a trust accounts for the Venezuelan people. And they're going to do the same thing. We're going to get a couple of people who we've negotiated with, the president, maybe the speaker or something. And then we're going to split them off and then we're going to use them to keep order. And then we're going to put their oil and bank accounts for the people. That's not going to happen. Not with this regime. No, not at all. Even if they wanted to, they would kill them. Even if there's civilian moderates that Trump says and they called it, they called him the other day after the strike, they'll be killed off. Yes. So in addition to that this week, news out of that region was that Netanyahu's buy service was eavesdropping on the United States. I have to say, whether they were or weren't, I don't know for sure. That's what the accusation is. But I would be surprised if they weren't listening to things. They do. We do it to them, I'm sure. Well, we do it to them all the time. Remember Obama got caught when he went, Merkel I think got angry because we were spying on our ally Germany, their cell phone conversation. Obama was doing that. They all do it to each other, but it's not quite the same. Spying on an ally is trying to find out what they're going to say to you or what their opinion of you is when you meet them. It's not how to defeat you and kill you. And that's quite different. But you know, the left and the ultra right went crazy about that. Yeah. And the last thing, the Apache helicopter that was shot down, the airmen were saved by drone boats and new technology. Yes. Do you have any thoughts on that? Yeah, I do. I mean, I only worry as we're forecast to make 300,000 aerial drones. Ukraine's a little tiny country with a pathetic GDP. They're going to make a million. So we need to have, what I would like to see is get converted, you know, oil tankers, they're huge oil tankers, and then read, just put a short little, I mean, the whole top of it is a landing and that whole air, oil carrier area, that's all full of drones and maybe park each, have them in a, I know they're slow growing and anything, but just have them there with say 10,000 drones. We need to think out of the box because that's where things are going. And I think Hexeth is doing that. I don't think we want to make these 20, 30, 40 million dollar drones anymore. I think General Atomics, Lyndon Blues, a very smart guy and his brother that run it. And I think they were doing, you know, the Reaper and the Predator, but that, those are reconnaissance drones and they have much more capability to strike. They have heavy missiles and things, but I think even they are augmenting that fleet now with cheap drones that are suicide drones, that they, they don't come back. They're cheap one-way drones. One-way drones have all sorts of advantages as the Japanese taught us in World War II with Kamikaze. Japanese said a zero can fly 1500 miles to 2000 miles round trip, lightened, but it has some limitless lanes if it's one way. You don't have to worry about the return trip and it's a cruise missile with a pilot's brain substituting for a computer. And it was very effective. If they had started Kamikaze operations at the Battle of Coral Sea, we would have been in trouble. And that's, but they didn't think they had to. But once they did it at late, they got, they introduced it and then they did it around Okinawa, especially it was deadly. And so we need to work on that to get a whole fleet of suicide drones, one-way bombs. Yeah. 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She reminds me of Graham Platner. He was from the upper middle class, and then he plays Joe working man, oyster man, why his dad's friend gives him an island to work on. His mom is his only customer, and he went to a prep school. She's the same way. She grew up in an upper, upper, middle-class family in the suburbs, and then she created, she didn't develop it naturally, this inner city ghetto accent. She uses that and gets sassy, and then when she gives a serious interview, she turns it off, and then she's acting as if she's a professional. But she's also an abject racist. All she talks about is white, white, white, white people, white people, white people, white people. Well, I said ignoramus without being defamatory, but evidential. She doesn't understand the law. What does it matter if I take a rock and hit some, if he took a rock and club and smashed Metcalfe's head, the rock is a murder weapon. It doesn't matter if there was a two by four in the tent, and he charged him and hit him with a two bar for it and killed him. That's a murder weapon. The only distinction is if it's illegal to carry a knife of a particular, then that's an accessory felony. But it doesn't matter because that's an accessory charge. The main charge is murder, and he did, and using a murder weapon. It can be a rock, it can be a two by four, it can be a piece of steel, it can be a knife, it can be a gun. But she's all hung up on, and then she almost implied, she said, if somebody was beating me down, it was 300 pounds, I wouldn't just restrict myself to the fist. Everything about that was a lie. He doesn't weigh 300 pounds. He weighed 35 or 40 pounds more than Camel, and he was about the same size. And more importantly, he didn't beat him down and knock him down. He sat there about 15 times. He said to everybody, I'm not leaving, and what are you going to do about it? So then finally, he said he didn't want to fight, but he gently tapped him back. That's not beating you down. So then she's suggesting that he beat him down, he weighed 300 pounds, and then he had no choice to stab him through the bone into the heart, and that she would do the same thing. That's what she was implying. And then the worst was when they unleashed those thugs that were outside the courtroom, and the family came out, and they said, we're going to urinate on your son, your brother's grave, and people on social media said, go check his tombstone, I've already smeared feces on. It was horrible, just pre-civilizational. And all these things, now we hear that DeCardos Brown is going to sue the FBI, who cut our poor Iranian immigrants' throat. And we had a young kid walking near his home in Philadelphia. And what happened, two people came up, African American young people, and they stole his phone, he asked where it back, and they shot him and killed him. Killed him right in front of his house. This is all happening at once. And then you superimpose that on what's happening in Belfast or with the attempted beheading and blinding of a person just to walk. And people are starting to realize that there is a common thread. It transcends just illegal immigration. The thing is, if you create in the West this binary, which Obama started, that it's not black white anymore, it's non-white versus white. And class does not matter. The Sikh family can be a millionaire, like Mondami's family, who's Hindu. And the Sikh truck drivers can be driving for a multi-million dollar trucking firm, but they're victims. Therefore, they don't have to have a license the way everybody else has had to get one. But if you start saying that these people have innate grievances that have to be conceded by the majority, and you keep demonizing white, white, white, white, white, and then you add to that, they can't do anything. And ha ha, I'm a Sikh guy, and I just took out my quote unquote ceremonial sword that they let me have in which they don't let anybody else have, even though it was probably eight inches rather than five. And then you stab somebody, and then you think ha ha, the fact that I had this weapon and I used it means they gave me preferential treatment. And the fact that all I have to do is hit the race button, and they'll come out here and exonerate me as I kind of show them a superficial little thing on my eye, and then my family can hide the weapon and say he's a racist, and they'll let him bleed to death. That's all predicated on the idea that I'm protected. And when you add the idea of immigration into it, that you come to a foreign country and the indigenous part, and this is the Irish and British indigenous population, and you give them exemptions and entitlements, and they reward that magnanimity within gratitude and anger, then it's time to call it into it. And here in the United States, if you like Jasmine Crockett, and if you like half the black caucus cannot finish the sentence without saying white, white, white, and the whole intention of the civil rights movement, according to Martin Luther King, the architect book leader was to downplay race, content of our character, not the color of our skin, but it has been accentuated with DEI because it is a get out of jail ticket, and it is a ticket on the fast track to employment, promotion, retention. All you have to do is play a minority person, and you're going to get preferential treatment. And the final absurdity, as I said last time, when you have three generations of Americans, for that matter, Europeans that were born after the civil rights movement, past civil rights legislation, and they grew up not with Jim Crow, not with institutionalized discrimination, not with Lester Maddox, not with George Wallace, but affirmative action, affirmative action, DEI. And they went along with it as everybody did. And yet, at the end of that three generational, in 2026, racial relations are a lot worse. Because the more that you claim that a particular tribal group, white people owe you something for something that happened, that they had no part in, and especially to a group that doesn't even understand, like the present Jasmine Crockett doesn't know what segregation was. She also made it, and so it's not sustainable. So I think what's going to happen is, and then after the Camillo verdict, Anthony Verdi, they showed pictures of black people going up and hitting white people. One guy was on a bike, did you see that? He just knocked him off and said, you're a jury, he wasn't. And he tried to go to a bus stop and attack a couple. That's not going to be able, that's not sustainable, because what's going to finally happen, the elite white who created this, the left wing elite white is going to find out that they're not exempt, because the people who are racist, who are attacking white people, don't care about their politics. In fact, they have contempt for the elite white because they feel they're a lot easier prey. They do not do this. They don't go down to rural Alabama and do it. They don't come out here to Southern Fresno County and attack the Hispanic population or the Oklahoma diaspora. They never do that. They go into big cities where they're in the plurality, and then they attack tourists or other people, but they have no idea that America is not the faculty lounge at Stanford, white America. It is not John Kerry and Bernie Sanders. It isn't. It's the deplorables, and they're not going to put up with it. And you can see what's happening in Britain, and it's tragic because when you have people like Jasmine Crockett and they're not being cross-examined, then the entire black community suffers, even though they've got brilliant people, and so they have to speak out about it. Same thing about anti-Semitism. When she said another thing... Didn't she say something about reparations? We're going to demand reparations. It's not going to come. It's not going to happen. They already have reparations. The Heritage Foundation years ago estimated that the Repertory Great Society programs over 50 or 60 years had already transferred $30 trillion in wealth to the black community in terms of affirmative action, inside advantages on college admissions, direct housing, legal food support. Yeah. And when you add Jesse Jackson, Shaking Down Corporations to give money to his rainbow coat, all of that stuff, Al Sharpton, all of that. And so the other thing that is surprising is, I think Larry Elder mentioned that we haven't heard a word out of the... Where's Jim Clyburn? Where is Heikham Jeffries? Where's Al Sharpton? Why don't they... I mean, they're usually demagogue-ing everything, and they know the reason they're quiet is two reasons. Number one, they know the facts of the case, and they know what would have happened if a white person went over to the other side of the track meet, and he went into a tent where there were black athletes, their families, friends, and he walked up to somebody and he said, I'm staying here. I'm not leaving. And then they said, would you please leave? You're not welcome. You're on the other team. No, I'm not going to do it. And please, please, 15 times, touch me and you're going to find out. And then some young black teenager just put his hand on him, and the white person pulled out a knife and plunged it. You know what happened? We'd have a George Floyd. So everybody knows that, and it's not sustainable, and they're not going to put up with it anymore. And especially when Jasmine Crockett says all these things, and nobody in the black community questions her or cross-examines her, and she's just spreading hatred that's going to further polarize. I've said, I just, some people, I guess they want to give topics to discuss. I get about five emails a week with little attachments about YouTube or TikTok. There is a whole genre right now of young white provocative people going up to black people and saying the N word because they use it. And then when they get mad, they say, well, you use it. So we're going to use it, which is a kind of a bogus idea. But you can see what that represents. That's not a sustainable thing either. I think there's this guy called Chad, Chad, or Chad the builder. And he makes a career out of it. He's making a fortune in ads and he's, he's, he's, he's goes viral. He just, somebody just finally attacked him and he shot himself defense. I think he's in Tennessee on trial. But you can't, you can't keep doing that and expect people like in Belfit not to react to that. And so the solution is, if I hope Trump, the wall, by the way, is going to be finished. Now, there was a big report on the progress. It's going to be all finished in two years before he leaves office. There'll be some places with those steep canyons that it's electronic, but basically from the Texas coast to San Diego, you're not going to be able to get across. And Joe Biden tried to subvert that memory, took the materials that were paid for and let them rust and then sold them off. He's a very pernicious person. But my point is it's, I hope there's people in the Black community who stand up to Judesmond Crockett and said, what are you talking about? Any weapon that kills somebody is a weapon. Anything that's killed. What did it matter if he used a knife or a rock or a two by four? He tried to kill him and he succeeded. That was his intent to hurt him severely. And you know what she said, one final thing she said, and every Black mom knows when their kid goes out that they're in danger from a white person. If you look at Chicago, 93 to 95% of all those shootings on Saturday and they're all by Black teens, that's a complete fabrication. If you look at rare interracial crime, and this is important, most of the blue cities will not report promptly or at all to the FBI. So any statistics you get now has been politically warped during the Biden administration. But to the degree they do report it, only 7 or 8% of all violent crimes are interracial. But within that rubric, it ranges from 6 to 30 to 1. In other words, that Black people are 6 times depending on the type of assault, rape, theft, muggings, killing, 6 to 30 times more likely to do that to a white person than a white person to do that to a Black person. So when she says that, that is a demonstrable lie. Most women in Chicago, in Oakland, on a Saturday night and their male child says, I'm going out tonight at 10.30 at night, they don't think there's going to be a bunch of white people in MAGA hats with bleach and a rope, like Jesse Smollett said. That's not going to happen. It's going to be another Black gangbanger or an innocent person caught in a crossfire between gangbangers. It's really important that people tell the truth. And I don't want to get cliches, I'm one of my best friends or Black, but I really feel bad for the stereotype that's developing again, because we had made so much progress and we're getting to the point before Obama that race was incidental and not essential. But once people got this message that you accentuate your race and you accentuate all your grievances and all your individual failures and all your disappointments in life can be attributed to your race and a collective prejudice, then you're going to have a racially segregated college and high school graduation ceremony. We're going to call it an affinity and you're going to have a racially separated theme dorm and we're going to call it a theme house. And we're going to get a racially separated and segregated place just for you on campus and we're going to call it a safe space. And we're going to give you 200 points on the SAT and we're not going to look at the caliber of your high school for your G, but you do all of that and then you create, I'll tell you something very controversial. I won't mention the circumstances. I won't mention the university that I was teaching at, but I was teaching as a guest and I had a seminar and I had two students. I won't mention their names, but they were African American and they said they had to have special tutoring. Excuse me. They didn't want to take the test because they had dyslexia or something to that effect and there was an honor code. So they went into a special room. Yeah, they call that they had some sort of disability. And I had gone through this at Cal State Fresno. So I was prepared for it. No monitoring in a closed room. Well, they came back out and they, on their term papers and I, to prevent AI writing these papers, I don't give them, you know, go tell me the day to the fall of Roman Empire or I give a very unique eccentric quest, you know what I mean? What is the revolution in arms in the fourth century BC and something like that. You can't get to AI, but on these papers, theirs was very, it wasn't competitive. On the exam, they were near perfect. Okay. So I was doing this. I looked at it and I said, these answers don't correlate with the paper or the class participation. So I asked my wife and she just said, take the answers and Google them. So I had definitions. Who was Pericles? Who, what was the fifth century, golden age, pantheon, all this stuff. And as soon as you put it in, I didn't even have an AI spot or anything. Right? It just came out Wikipedia, Wikipedia. And so all I could do is I mentioned to people and said, don't go there. Don't go there. Do not make this accusation. I said, it's demonstrable. When I was at Cal State, that was an F. Do not go there. Okay. So in class, the only thing I could do is there was a couple of ones that weren't in Wikipedia. So I said to one of the students, we're going to go over the test. We're all together. So I said, you had some great answers. I don't know how you knew Pelopidas and Epaminonus, but I want to read your answers. So I read them out loud and they got, I read, excuse me, I read one of them out loud. This was two weeks later. So then I said, I was even more impressed with your Epaminondus. And I hadn't, I hadn't handed back the test yet. I had the test. So I said, you know, you're both of you just did wonderfully on your identification. These were the top identifications. I really liked your Pelopidas. And let me read it to you. And I read it out loud and everybody goes, wow, suspicious. And then I said, and your Epaminondus was so great. And it's not fair for me to read it. It was so wonderful. I'll do you justice. And this was by Zoom that day. I'll do it justice so you can tell everybody who Epaminondus is. Well, obviously, she had written it on Wikipedia, but she forgot who he was in two weeks. So she puts a sign up on Zoom, can't hear dysfunction. And so the next time, that was for the midterm. And the final, I said, I can't do this unless you have to leave your backpacks. You have to no backpacks. And I said to the secretary, you have to monitor them. But you can't make accusations. And you can, but the point I'm making is I asked myself, why would that happen? And the only thing that I could make, no other students did that. And it had happened to me at least over 21 years at Cal State five times. You mean no other student had claimed disability so that they could get a separate room and extra time to do that? Not in those classes, no. And I had all sorts of people from India, from China, Mexican America, no, it was just two African American girls. And when I was at Cal State, this happened maybe five times where African American students would say that they had disabilities. And they would go in at that time. We only had the internet. We didn't have AI. But again, it was on the honor code. And the quality of their exams when they took, you had much more you know, my exams were exam, you had to know it well to finish in an hour and a half, two hours through whatever. But you get unlimited time in their case. Now all the students would complain to me, why do they do it? And I said, here's the Cal State unit, they say they have a, but they said they don't, they don't. And they were very angry about it. But who, who, what created that environment where somebody can think that they could do that with impunity to a professor and the other people in the class? And the answer is that if you say racism, racism, racism, racism long enough, and you make allegations that are not grounded in fact, then the people will be afraid of being called to races and they will create institutions that allow you to have exemptions that no one else has. And that ruins deterrence. Believe me, had those been two white males, I think I would have had a green light to give them an F. And I did that at Cal State. And are you trying to imply given the ignorance Jasmine Crockett has of the law and that she has a law degree that maybe she did a few of those things herself? I don't see after listening to her, she was on TV the other night. I don't know how she ever passed the, the bar in any state. She doesn't, she doesn't, she seems to think that if you don't have an outlawed weapon, and she, if you asked Jasmine Crockett, would you please tell me the rules about carrying a concealed knife or a knife openly in Texas? She wouldn't know. Would you please tell me which weapons are not allowed in Texas? She wouldn't know. The Swiss, it was kind of a variant of a swift knife. It was razor sharp. And she, it was five inches, maybe six. Does she know how close the heart is? I do because I just had open a lebectomy and the pulmonary artery was bleeding right next to my heart. And I can tell you, even though my heart an inch away, that pulmonary artery being bleeding, it gave me three liters, seven, six or seven pints of blood loss. And I was close to, you know, so does she understand what that would, you don't need as a sword, all you need is about four inches to break the, and there were bones on the knife. It went right through it. But even that, as I said earlier, it wouldn't have mattered if he'd used a rock. She doesn't understand that at all. She doesn't seem to know the law. Well, Victor, let's go ahead and take a break and then come back and talk a little bit about Joe Biden and George Washington. Stay with us and we'll be right back. Hey, I'm Bradley Devlin. And just like you, I'm a huge fan of Victor Davis Hansen, whether it's his long form podcast, Victor Davis Hansen in his own words, or his short form content for the Daily Signal, Victor Davis Hansen in a few words, by always leaving episode learning something new. I think they forgot the 1982 Falcons war. And in the age of clickbait and rage bait, that's a really good feeling, right? The media, thank you. You can leave now. And if you agree, you might like my show, The Daily Signals long form interview podcast called the signal sit down. 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So Victor, you're anxious to hear your discussion, I guess, of George, I mean, Joe Biden, but George Washington even more so. So have at it. George Washington after George Floyd, remember, he was really tarred and feathered because he married, he married his wife who had children and she was a widow. And he inherited the Mount Vernon property and a sizable property in Virginia. And then he had been a surveyor and he had been paid by the colonial government at the time, the British government, with sizable tracks near the Ohio River. So at one point he probably owned 30,000 acres and he probably had more slaves. I think that the most that Thomas Jefferson had was 200. He probably had at 1.3 or 400, but like Thomas Jefferson, he inherited this property, but he was cash poor like Jefferson. And so and because of the war and slavery was, people have pointed out that slavery was not an economical, I mean, it's superficially economic free labor, but when you enslave somebody, they don't have the incentive to work as hard as they would with wages. And then when you're responsible for their housing and food, you don't give them very nice housing or food. And it's a whole corrupt cycle. So he, like Jefferson expressed a desire to manumit slaves, but he did it as will and not completely because it was wife, Martha Washington. The thing about him is that he was known and he's a big guy somewhere between six one and six three. He was born in 1732. So in his 20s, 30s and 40s, he was probably the best known colonial officer fighting for the British against the French and the French and Indian wars. And he raised, and so he was very loyal subject to Britain. But in that process, and by farming his widowed wife, previously widows, wife's farm, he understood that tariffs and taxes and the mercantile system were so he became an adamant critic of the British government. So when the Tea Party came, started to come out and 1775, before the declaration, he was appointed the head of the Continental Army, had no resources, no money, and never really fielded more than 15,000 people at one time, ragtag bunch against the greatest navy till that time in civilizational history. And the British army, this is before the rise of the unified Germany was probably one of the best armies per man in the world. And he was appointed. And then you had the Declaration of Independence. So from 1775 to 1782, three, he kept that army going across the Delaware. He survived, barely forged, lost two or 3000 for disease and cold. He used smallpox vaccines. It was very innovative to save his army. And finally, he was able to work with the French. He got a Rambachaud and Wafayet, he got long perfectly with them and then they won at Yorktown. So at that point, he had been very young. He had been 45 when the revolution started. But he was still born in 1832. So he was about 57 in 1789. That's when he took office. There wasn't mass elections yet. The electoral college of states voted and they voted unanimously. 1789 and he served to 1797, eight years. So his legacy is unlike Napoleon, who followed from the revolution was given power both in the consulate, the directory and the consulate. And then he became a dictator or an emperor. He had that ability, that magnetism, everybody liked him. During the Revolutionary War, there were setbacks. He lost battles and there was rumors that Horatio Gates or people like that were better. But he always had his supporters. But the point I'm making is there's this new government and the Constitution is only a year old and it doesn't specify things. Sort of like the New Testament, I used to teach John, Mark, Luke, Matthew in Greek. And the actual corpus of what Jesus said is not enough exegesis to form a sophisticated church. So you have to bring in acts and letters and then the Christian exegesis people like St. Augustine or later Thomas Aquinas. The Constitution doesn't really say how do you, if you want to, it tells you how to admit a state, it doesn't say how to get out. And it leaves basically all powers not here by the delineated go to the states. It doesn't say anything about slavery, whether it doesn't say how many justices, the Supreme, just says there's going to be a Supreme Court court and there's going to be a Chief Justice. That's it. It doesn't say anything about lower court. So he had to, and it doesn't say how many terms, four year terms. So he was the one, doesn't say what you call the president. So he basically, after talking to Madison, who was a good confidant of us, he was suspicious of Jefferson, but he made him Secretary of State for a while. His whole point was everything that I do will be the model institutionalized. And I have an enormous responsibility as the father of the country, not to take bribes to be absolutely transparent. And he came up with the idea, I'm not going to be called your highness or your excellency, but Mr. President, he came up with the idea that you should only serve two terms and get out. And he came up with the idea that he took no pay as general, but you should not profit while you're in office. And he literally wore himself out after fighting him from 1775 to 1782, and then being thinking he was going to go into retirement and then getting involved with the Articles of the Confederation, which he deployed and how loose and how worried he was. He was a Hamilton guy. He really believed in federalism and a strong central power. He'd seen the problem during, as a commander during the Revolutionary War. So then from 1782, 83, all the way till when he took over 1788, 89, he was trying to lobby the Federalists to have a strong constitution. And then he was present for eight years. So when he left office, he only lived two and a half years. And it was sad when he died because he had, I guess what you would call today, a strep throat. It was an inflammation of the back of the tongue, epiglottitis, and throat was infected. But he had gone out and inspected trees to be cut, and it was wet. I know doctors kind of say that, you know, coldness can't give you a cold, but my grandparents grew up in the 19th century. And every time it was raining, they'd say, don't go out and catch a cold or you're getting pneumonia. And there was something to that. But he went out all day and was soaked, and then he didn't change his clothes and went to a meeting. And he got some kind of flu or, but he got infected. And it was probably strep that we don't know. And so what did they do? They bled him. They took a pine out. And then, I mean, I can tell you one pint would be bad, but they took four or maybe it was five. Out of you or George Washington? George Washington. Oh, really? They kept doing it. Yes. And he probably died of vascular hematology. He had two little blood volume. I don't know if he would have had the power. William DeCumseh Sherman had the same problem with, they don't really describe in the literature, they call inflammation of the throat and things, but it sounds like it's a bacterial infection, like strep that'll get into the heart and kill you very quickly. Had he not had those blood things, I can tell you, I had three liters lost over a day and a half. And that was a little over two pints per liter, probably about seven pints. And I think you have about 12 pints or 13, depending on your size. And then I had five blood transfusions and one platelet transfusions, but they don't catch up. You can't transfuse one to one because you're making blood and you'll get too much blood and the blood pressure will kill you, you know, the volume. But I can tell you when the first night they came in and they said, we got to get you up. And I hadn't been up and I thought I was normal. I got, I took one step and fell over. The next night they said, we got to get you up. During that, I took up one step and then everybody came in and said, you have no color at all. You're completely white. And I had almost the hemoglobin and the hemocrit were almost, I'm not zero, but they were, there was, they were barely registering. So my point is to have that done to you without transfusions. I had the transfusions. He didn't. So they, I don't want to say they killed him because they didn't know, but they thought that toxic blood, you could get it out and then the body would make good new blood. And they do that. That has a philosophy for people who have hemochromatosis. That's an innate blood disease. You have too much iron and you can leach a person a pint every six months and lower the iron content. That's not his problem. So he kind of died tragically at 67. And his legacy was John Adams was the vice president and he became president based on Washington's success. And you kind of had the Virginia and the New England aristocracy. And then you had Jefferson. When you get to Jefferson, he's a very complicated person because what he said sounds so radical if you quote him up to the age of 40 and it, but he lived into his 80s. But everything after that, slow down. Let's not get volatile. So then we go very quickly to Joe Biden. I have mixed emotions about that. I'm not prejudiced. Jimmy Carter was a moral man, ethical man. He was a weak president and did a lot of damage. Bill Clinton was a complete rogue. You couldn't trust him as far as you could throw him. He was a serial philander, probably used drug drugs. But he was a wonderful retribution and he believed in making deals like Trump. And whether you liked him or not, he left office with the first time and we've never had done it since for consecutive and the Republicans will say he couldn't have done that without Newt Genreith, who he made the cuts. Yes, but Bill Clinton got Genreith to go ahead with some tax increases, not big ones either. And he, I keep quoting, I mean, I always read the 92 and 96 Democratic platforms at their convention. I think it was written by Mark Penn and Doug Shown and my gosh, you should read them. Close borders, no illegal immigration, no 100, not defund the police, but 100 extra cops paid for by the federal, 100,000 extra cops. And violent criminals 17 shall be a tried as adults. And we're deportation and we're going to protect the American worker. That was Clinton. Then Obama, well, we'll talk about him, but Biden wasn't really a president because he was non-composment as from the 2020 election. He wasn't winning. He was in 2020, he was so debilitated. He didn't win New Hampshire. He didn't win Iowa. There was Bernie, there was Elizabeth Warren, there was Pete Buttigieg, there was a Castro, one of the Castro brothers, there was Spartacus. There was a whole array of hard leftists and they did internal polling and they said, these guys are going to lose and we're going to get Donald Trump again. And we've done all this work to change the voting laws and we're going to have mail-in ballots and we can win with this, but we got to have a working class. We don't have Tallor Wego yet, we don't have Phony Graham Plattener, we need a Phony working guy. So they resurrected this relic, Joe Biden, who had brain damage, I think, from two serious brain operations. And they sold him as good old Joe Biden from Scranton. He sat in the basement, remember that thing? He was speaking to cars and they honked like an outdoor movie theater. It's COVID, I can't go anywhere. And so they let the media and surrogates campaign and he stayed there and once he got there, they essentially said to him, well, you pick Camilla Harris, that was good, you promised to pick a black woman, but the deal was when we use you as a veneer, you were going to turn over the real government to Obama. So what he did was he outsourced all of his major policy and appointments to the Obama crowd. So we've never had no border. He destroyed the border. He just, he absolutely destroyed it. They let in 12,000 people some days. There was 10 to 12,500,000 criminals. They're talking about all of these, I was just reading about certain types of diseases that have come in that affect animals, cattle, but also people and they've vectored very high because there was no audit about anybody who came in from Central America, South America, Haiti, Caribbean, anywhere, no help. This is a time when they were telling us if you didn't wear a mask and you didn't get a vaccination, you could lose your job, but not an illegal alien. And then he tried to destroy the fossil fuel industry with all these green subsidies and then they came to him in 2022 and said, you're going to lose the midterm and you've got to now lie and pivot. So now you're, you say you're green, but let us pump, pump, pump, pump, pump and let's drain that petroleum reserve. And by the way, let's legalize marijuana and forgive student loan and we'll win the midterm. That's what they did and they did. And then foreign policy, the Skaddle from Afghanistan was the worst military humiliation since 1975 when we were flying helicopters off the embassy roof and Saigon and we were pushing fighter jets off carriers to make room for the evacuation helicopters. It was, and that scene of those big C-5s and C-17s and people are clinging on the wheels and then we have these left-wing spokesmen for the Air Force saying, and we're going to guarantee that when they arrive in the United States, they will be given suitable Mediterranean Afghan food. I'm thinking, do you know who they are? Because, you know, we just had the one that shot the two officers, Afghan, they didn't even audit them. And then they left contractors and loyal Afghan translators behind and we lost 13 Marines and then we don't know how much, but the ranges are 8 to 50 billion depending on maintenance and civilian vehicles. We left all those beautiful trucks, cars, planes, helicopters, and then all the weaponry and that became the source for Afghanistan to supply the world's terrorists, M4s, M16s, grenades, mortars, artillery, you name it, they left it all there. I don't know why they did that when they had Bagwam Air Force Base. We'd put $300 million in it, they could have made it a citadel, it was defensible, it had an airstrip. All they had to do was say, we're turning it over to the Afghans and we're going to Bagwam, which is completely defensible and we are going to keep this base. And then if people wanted to leave, they could drive out there and they would have had complete air control, there would have been no city around, they could have done what they wanted. But Joe wanted, why did he do it? He wanted to have a parade to commemorate the 20th anniversary of 9-11 and he was going to say, on 9-11 we were attacked because of the Republican, I love Oxity and I got us out of Afghanistan that year, the 20-year nightmare is over. That's what I did and that's why he did it so quickly. Then the Ukraine war, and I'll finish with this, Ukraine war, he said, well, Mr. President, what would you do? He's mounting on the border, he's massing troops to invade. Now, the reason he was doing that was because when Joe Biden came in, unlike Trump, he said, I'm not going to okay offensive weapons, like Obama said. And he said, well, it depends on whether it's a minor invasion or not. That was like candy to Putin. And then he said, well, they're hacking all of our institutions, Russian hackers. So Putin, would you lay off that and tell it, if you're going to do it, don't do hospitals? Can you imagine that? And then of course, he put daylight between us and Israel. So he started attacking Israel, he gave into the new Islamist system and democratic party. And as soon as Hamas heard that, we'll go in and kill a bunch of Jews in the United States, we'll start lecturing Netanyahu not to overwrack. That was true because he had been begging Iran, please, please let me get back in the Iran deal and give you more money. I can't think of one good thing he did. And then when he gave those phantom of the opera speeches with the black background and the red, like he was, you know, he was in a Vincent Price movie or something. And then he just, all he could say, all of my data is white stability. It was all lies. So I don't have anything good to say. And then when Jill Biden basically confessed, when they had the coup to get rid of him, and she was angry and said he was fit as a fiddle, and he got all the data, answering any questions, now she says, I was afraid he had a stroke. No, you weren't, because if you thought he had a stroke, you would have pulled him out of the race right then, or you wouldn't have, you would have taken him to the emergency room and said, you had a big after campaign party reception, and you told the world that he did great. And so now you get the whole looking back, you can see what it was all about. He had married this younger woman who was a complete narcissist and megalomaniac, who had, she had an Edd. I don't think I've ever allowed anybody to call me doctor. I mean, in an academic, you don't want to make a big deal. But if I'm somewhere and somebody said, Dr. Hansen, I don't want to embarrass them, but I don't feel like that's the proper title for a PhD. I know you have a PhD. I don't hear you saying Dr. Sammy. But the point I'm making is she took that Edd and then corrected everybody. And then she wanted to be in the center of attention, and she wanted to be the conduit. If you wanted Joe to auto pin something, then you went to her. And who were the people who went to her? They were all the Obama crowd. And he tipped it off when they asked him, would you like a third term? Oh, if I could, well, I could call it in, you know, I don't have to wear a tie, just phone it in. Yeah, that's what he did. And he made some of the worst appointments on judges, all DI radical judges, especially at the lower district courts. And of course, he engineered lawfare. I'll just finish, I promise, with this one observation. On one day on November 15, 2022, as I've said before, three days after Donald Trump announced that he was going to run for president, guess what happened? Joe Biden, who had been complaining that they weren't going after Trump enough, and everybody on the left who's listening, remember, you all make this charge that there's Donald Trump's DOJ. No, he nobody was taking orders like Merrick Garland. And Joe Biden was complaining. And so on that three days later, they got together and they said, we're going to go after this SOB and really put him to the wall. So he did one thing. He appointed Jack Smith on that day to be Fethel prosecutor to go after the Mar-Lago and charge him with insurrection for January 6th. That all blew up. You know, what was it, 98 out of 14,000 documents were supposed to be classified. They had to mess up the floor and put fake label, da, da, da. And then Fannie Willis and her boyfriend, Nathan Wade, he spent six hours on the White House. When is the White House ever had a local county attorney prosecutor who wasn't even a prosecutor? It was the first time he'd been a prosecutor, really. She appointed her boyfriend to run the thing about the prosecution of Trump. And then he was being schooled by the White House counsel. The same day, we, Letita James, who had just pinned him to the wall, she was on the White House. We don't know why. And the same day, Michael Cole Angelo, Angelo, who had just been working with Letita James on the real estate that had fined Trump at $1.500 million. That was a phony thing. Then he quit. He left that thing and got the choices for reward by Biden. Oh, you got helped. You schooled crazy Letita James. You were the brain behind it. And you won with a biased judge, and Garon. And you got $500 million. We're going to make you the third top person in the fit. And so he's third. But that day, that same day that I've been talking about, what happened? He quit. And where'd he go? To Alvin Bragg's thing to repeat the performance. So there you have it. You have a connection with Fannie Willis. You have Letita James. You have Michael Cole Angelo with Alvin Bragg. And you have Jack Smith. And you have real lawfare, which is there was no crime there. They were just looking for something on Donald Trump. According to them, if you're a losing candidate and you call up, as they all do, the register and say, Hey, wait a minute. It's a close election. I know there's some, there's votes there. You got to find them. If they're there, that's what he did. He didn't say, go create them. He said, go find those votes. My votes. He blew off steam. They, they tried to put him in jail for that. And then he disputed like Joe Biden. But the difference between him and Joe Biden on the classified documents were, he had a much smaller percentage of the total documents that were classified. Number two, he had them in a very secure place with a guard tower outside, not Hunter's garage with and three different places. And number four, he had the right to declassify them as president. Joe Biden did not as vice president when he took them out. Number four, they had only been out for about a year and a half. And they were, there was back and forth. Joe's had been out for 30 years. So the biggest lie that Joe Biden said was, well, I just was looking at my, and I just thought that I'd follow along and tell him I had classified. No, you stole him. They had classified documents because you just appointed a special counsel to go after classified documents. And you knew that you were going to be a hypocrite. So you tried to preempt that, but you didn't tell us that your ghost writer was, had access, thanks to you to classified documents, which is a felony. Then he destroyed the tapes and then Robert Hur was kind of a joke. They thought he was too, too tough. He was a pathetic, weakling prosecutor. He was very, he could have slapped that guy with destruction of subpoenaed evidence. He could have said Joe Biden took them to unsecure places. He had no right to declassify them. And it took him 30 years to tell us. Yeah, so I correct that. He was guilty of no crime that anybody had ever actually been charged with because they were so minor. Remember what they were? Yeah. So, but my comparison is today the DOJ is, for example, JD Vance has referred to our DOJ for investigation, Tim Walson, Keith Ellison for the fraud and the gut. There is a crime there and they really need to know what role Ellison and Walsh played in that crime. It kills me when I hear somebody call him a felon. You know, when Alvin Bragg took a federal law that the federal prosecutor said was not worth it. It wasn't, you know, about campaign. So they said that to shut crazy stormy Daniels up, he did a nondisclosure, but he didn't report that as a campaign expense when it was just to protect his reputation. And then I like the Latita James thing. It would be as if Victor has this house I'm speaking in and I want to build an addition or I want to build one. So I'm going to take a loan at my house and I'm going to say it's worth, I don't know, I'll just take an arbitrary figure, $400,000 and Bank of America gives me a loan for $400,000 and this is the security and I build my house with a $400,000 and then I pay it ahead of time and with interest and somebody comes along and says, I think your house was only worth $200,000. I said, and I say, you think you know better than the bank who has the liability, not you. We're going to prosecute you for a false representation of your assets. They said at Mar-Lago was only worth $17 million. It's worth a billion dollars. Anybody drives by it, especially in this market. And then I would say to them, well go ask Bank of America and they go into Bank of America. So no, we like the guy. He took a loan out. We assessed the property. It's our business and he paid the loan back early with interest. We want to loan him again and they prosecuted and that and then they said, sorry, Victor, you owe the federal government $500 million plus interest at 9%. Absolutely insane. Well, Victor, you got to take a break and then come back and we'll talk a little bit more about the Democratic Party's eccentricities with Mondami, Mikey Sherrill and the Seattle police. I think her name is Katie something. But anyways, well, stay with us. We'll be right back. If you enjoy Victor Davis Hansen, you might enjoy the Daily Signals flagship show, The Tony Kennett Cast. The same common sense perspectives you love weekdays at 7pm Eastern. And unlike some of the other evening shows, we work up until showtime to bring you the latest breaking news, analysis and good old American Starcast. Tom Tillis, I'm pretty sure might have been useful at one time as a doorstop, find The Tony Kennett Cast on YouTube, X, radio, TV or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back. Victor Davis Hansen in his own words. We are a subsidiary of the Daily Signal. We both had signal hats on today. Thank you to Rob Bluey who provided us with them and runs the Daily Signal. He's doing an excellent job. So what is ringing in my head is Graham Platner standing up in front of working class people and telling them that the Democratic party is not going to be the spending party to cut into their checks more. When we have Mondami now this week, he has an outreach office that he calls the Office of Mass Engagement that is going to be spending $50 million to, as the New York Post said, propagandize Mondamis things. We have a Seattle mayor that has created kind of an encampment for the homeless, which is probably going to just become a din of drugs and prostitution. And it's going to be an LA style, go to register them the same day, get the closest cross street as they're addressed. They have no ID, so you give them an ID number. And then once you have them sign their mark, maybe a happy face, then you witness it and then you give them a ballot and you tell them, because maybe they're illiterate or something, who to vote for, then you get the bundle and go in and turn it on. Which is reminding me that California is also under investigation for defrauding the federal government for homeless. So it's a little weird how they all say that there are estimates that there was $250 billion in fraud. And a lot of outside auditors think there's a trillion dollars in fraud that could be there per year. And the left always says, you're cutting this and you're doing this, you're throwing them out in the street, you're cutting it. But they never talk about all this money that was stolen. They don't talk about it because that money is recycled to them by these NGOs and these handlers that take federal money at the state level and then they disperse it and to make a big cut and they give all of their protection money to Democrats. And that's why the head of ACK Blue, the biggest fundraising source of Democratic money and is allegedly, allegedly, allegedly taking huge sums from overseas interest. She goes before Congress. I respectfully plead the Fifth Amendment. Yeah, she says, I have been advised of counsel. I have been, it wasn't my idea. I mean, I would tell you the truth and I'm a crook, but my counsel won't let me. And then they wanted to kind of make a character. Could you, it's your name, and she says, I respectfully can't even say your name. That would be incriminating. If a person does that, what's the purpose of a congressional hearing? They can't you hold a person in contempt? I don't know. But James Comey basically did the same thing when he said 245, don't know, can't recollect, not in my purview. The Democrats have a problem though, because when they were in with Joe Biden, they kept saying, we need immigration reform to solve the border problem. And then Trump comes in and it's solved. And Trump's in and we've got this big effort to stop fraud, to save those programs for people who really do need the social security. I would advise all of you who are followers of Tucker, Candace Olin, Megan Kelly, Marjorie Taylor Greene, to take a deep breath and ask yourself why you disagree on the Epstein files and you disagree on the Iran. What do you think the border will look like if you vote for Gavin Newsom or Camilla Harris? Because go look at Belfast, go look at what's happening in Paris today with riots, go look at the attempted beheading, and then look at all the stuff that's happened under Biden from illegal immigration and then ask yourself, there is no illegal immigration. It wasn't, we need comprehensive immigration, we just needed a new president and the wall will be finished. It's already been announced. The guys, the people working on it say we're going to get done early on under budget. But that enough is to vote for the Republicans in the midterm. That single issue because that is one of the most dangerous things to a constitutional republic is to have an open border and a left wing that's openly recruiting people to come into this country illegally with no ID, no English fluency, no skills, and criminal backgrounds in the case of 500,000 of them, and then call everybody racist or we restrictionist or protectionist or nativist if you even utter a peep. All right, Victor, we're at the end of our show and I have comments this time and we're not on such a hard break. So let's go ahead and it's the comments on yours and Ray Eberhems, the interview of Ray Eberhems. Good, I'd like to hear them. Yes. So one comment by Charles Burkhart 800. Great interview with Raymond Eberhems. We need the history behind the Islamic ideology. Thank you both. I don't miss either of you on YouTube. So he watches Ray's. Ray's very courageous. He gets a lot of existential threats. Yes. He does. Not 10 times more than I do. Yeah. And he's out more than I am now. Yeah. He, another person said, and this echoes many, many things, many people saying, free swimming says the West needs more ravens. There were lots of people that just said, oh, this is a great interview. Evelyn Santiago 8870 says, this is an excellent interview. People should listen and understand that England, Germany, Italy, Canada, et cetera, are being invaded by the ideology. Watch Congress and mayors like New York City, states like Michigan, Virginia, et cetera, who are trying to destroy our Constitution in ways of life. Then you will see how much influence they have over our government. Yeah. Linda Stanley 4715, I wish somehow that President Trump could hear this interview. Very informative. I like that one. And happy puppies, 777, 777. Wonderful to watch. I see the kindness and respect between these two men show each other and realize how beautiful our civilization can be. I suspect a genuinely good education and a disciplined mind contribute immensely to yours and Ray's kind of product. I think you should all look at Raymond Ibrahim's, the bin Laden reader. He was working the Library of Congress and on his own found a manuscript written by bin Laden, but probably that was ghost written by Dr. Zawa Heary, the evil brain of Al Qaeda. And in that, it's funny. I mean, it's chilling, but it's funny. They accuse us of carbon emissions, all sorts of stuff they picked up from the left. But more importantly, they have a plan. They say it in there that they want massive immigration to the West and they want to create enclaves of Islamic communities within the West that will not assimilate or culture, are integrate. And then at the opportune time when they reach a particular thing, then they want their people to run for office. And then from the inside out, take over the, they say that. And when you look at what's happening, the Islamic population is almost as large as the Jewish population, supposed to pass it by 2030. And when you look at Ilian Omar and Rashida Tlaib, they don't have any gratitude for coming here. All the, everything that comes out of their mouth is how bad this country is. In the case of Ilian Omar, she committed likely immigration fraud. She said the country was trashy. She said it was a dictatorship. She said it's a Benjamin's baby, an anti-Semitic thing about Netanyahu. And she's probably got some financial problems. I don't know of any Congress person that on one year says there were 30 million. And the next says they basically have no net worth. Which is it? And then Just one more thing with Omar. She introduced the Feeding Our Futures bill into the Congress that she did. And her sister ran one of those programs. And the Republicans are trying to pass a bill that they can deport recently granted citizenship to people if they engage in fraud against the government. That's very popular. Just a poll came out yesterday saying most Americans, forget about the ICE demonstration. They want not close borders alone. They want deportations of everybody who came in illegally. And I think people should realize that. That's a winning issue. And I think people and you know that everybody says the Hispanic community is lost. I don't think so because I pick up the Fresno Bee or local papers every single day. There is a DUI incident with an illegal alien who leaves the scene of the accident. And I just say that anytime you see an accident in Fresno County and it says driver leaves the scene of the accident, that's likely to be an illegal alien because he doesn't want to be there without the ID, etc. Even though he can get a driver's license. But I would say nine times out of 10, the dead are Mexican American citizens. Yeah, so they have a lot to lose. They take the brunt of illegal alien. Illegals who either don't know the laws or how to drive. The left doesn't understand. They're so fixated on race. If you said right now that we have 11 million Scandinavians coming here and we have an eastern white and they're all white and they're going to settle here and they're not going to acculturate. They're not going to integrate and they're going to swarm social services. They're all poor. They're going to drink and they're going to feel exempted that they can do anything. You think I wouldn't be upset? Would I say, oh well, they're Swedish or they're white? No, no, no, no. I would say send them back. And with that facetious image, let's go ahead and end this podcast. We'd like to thank our audience for joining us on this weekend and thank you, Victor, for everything. Thank you for listening and watching everyone. We'll see you next time. This is Sammy Wink and Victor Davis Hansen and we're signing off. Thank you for tuning in to The Daily Signal. Please like, share, and subscribe to be notified for more content like this. You can also check out my own website at victorhansen.com and subscribe for exclusive features in addition.