The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 883 | "Not Violins"

230 min
Dec 3, 20255 months ago
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Summary

Episode 883 of The Joe Budden Podcast features extensive discussion of the Diddy documentary series on Netflix, analysis of the Megan Thee Stallion vs. Milagro defamation case verdict, and commentary on cultural topics ranging from Russell Wilson's Thanksgiving to Frank Sinatra's alleged anatomy. The hosts debate faith versus materialism, music industry dynamics, and social accountability.

Insights
  • Documentary framing and media presentation significantly influence public perception of guilt and culpability, even when presenting factual information
  • Legal victories in defamation cases set important precedents for media accountability but may paradoxically amplify the defendant's platform and reach
  • Wealth and power create isolation that prevents genuine accountability relationships, even among successful individuals with extensive networks
  • The music industry's treatment of artists varies dramatically based on perceived authenticity and alignment with industry expectations versus artistic evolution
  • Personal belief systems are often situational and context-dependent rather than consistently applied across all scenarios
Trends
Documentary series as cultural commentary tool gaining mainstream acceptance and award recognitionDefamation and revenge porn litigation becoming more common as celebrities fight back against online harassmentRenewed focus on artist mental health and nervous system resilience as critical success factors in entertainmentCross-platform feuds and beefs being managed through strategic media appearances and interviews rather than direct confrontationIncreased scrutiny of celebrity brand authenticity and alignment between public persona and private behaviorMusic industry resistance to artist genre experimentation despite successful executionFaith-based decision making versus material security as ongoing cultural debate among younger demographics
Topics
Diddy Documentary Analysis and Media FramingDefamation Law and Celebrity Legal AccountabilityMusic Industry Artist Development and Creative FreedomNervous System Resilience in Entertainment CareersFaith Versus Materialism Decision MakingCelebrity Authenticity and Brand AlignmentOnline Harassment and Revenge Porn LegislationDocumentary Filmmaking Ethics and Source ProtectionFeud Management in Hip-Hop CultureArtist Mental Health and Industry PressurePatreon and Creator Economy MonetizationBattle Rap Culture and Pre-Battle NarrativesThanksgiving and Family DynamicsMethod Acting and Character ImmersionJussie Smollett Interview and Public Perception
Companies
Netflix
Platform hosting the Diddy documentary series 'The Reckoning' executive produced by 50 Cent
Patreon
Subscription platform used by Mark Lamont Hill for exclusive content distribution and early access
PrizePicks
Sports betting/prediction platform featured as episode sponsor with player stat line predictions
Spotify
Streaming platform that signed The Joe Budden Podcast in deal discussed regarding platform expansion
YouTube
Platform where Mark Lamont Hill plans to release Patreon exclusive content eventually
People
Sean Combs (Diddy)
Central subject of Netflix documentary series; discussed extensively regarding his crimes and legacy
50 Cent
Executive producer of Diddy documentary; discussed for his role in amplifying the narrative
Mark Lamont Hill
Co-host providing analysis on documentary, defamation case, and conducting exclusive interviews
Megan Thee Stallion
Won defamation case against blogger Milagro; discussed regarding legal precedent and platform impact
Milagro
Found liable for defamation and promoting deepfake videos; discussed regarding media accountability
Cassidy
Discussed as pre-battle narrative master preparing for upcoming battle with Easy the Block Captain
Max B
Recently performed controversial song at concert; discussed regarding apology and industry relationships
Russell Wilson
Discussed regarding Thanksgiving catering controversy and perception management in sports
Jussie Smollett
Discussed regarding recent interview and continued defense of his assault allegations
Ariana Grande
Discussed regarding behavior during Wicked press tour with co-star Cynthia Erivo
Cynthia Erivo
Discussed regarding protective behavior during Wicked press tour with Ariana Grande
Paul Anka
Confirmed Frank Sinatra's anatomy in recent interview; discussed regarding celebrity gossip
Frank Sinatra
Discussed regarding alleged physical attributes and sauna encounters with other celebrities
Game
Upcoming album with DJ Drama discussed; praised for consistent discography and rap ability
Stove God Cooks
New record discussed as departure from boom-bap sound; praised for artistic growth and innovation
Quotes
"The industry doesn't break voices, it breaks nervous systems. Labels don't scout talent. They scout emotional durability."
Music Producer (quoted by Mark Lamont Hill)Mid-episode
"I've stuck with the truth the entire time. I was walking down the street and I got jumped."
Jussie SmollettLate episode
"Your biggest enemy isn't the industry. It's the version of you that believes you're running out of time."
Music Producer (quoted by Mark Lamont Hill)Mid-episode
"If you really believe God got you, why you didn't see him face to face?"
Flip (on trillion dollars vs. Jesus conversation)Final segment
"He saw the best in you when nobody else did."
Outro speakerEpisode conclusion
Full Transcript
The thoughts views and opinions expressed by this podcast as well as its hosts offer entertainment purposes only I Repeat it is not serious It is not real. No one is exposing revealing inditing Or telling you anything about themselves Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals Do not have your best interests at heart or our own Enjoy the show. I hate when they don't know that was something I'm not ever to see me bro. I told you when I spoke to the internet like I'm so happy to see you got cold Oh, I'm a You don't want to talk to me cuz you felt I got a cold that's it That's a new I want you got all these new lines of not wanting to speak to a nigga communicate Yeah, you got a cold mark and really really kicking in with you. Let me get my shades, too. I'm gonna pure bullshit today No, I'm just a little Stevie but That you into the I max Hey girl, you know, oh, yeah, they married par me Both Are you doing this good to see you brother like why I love you flip. I love you too, man Got complained though, yo, um, just one act can I start off asking mark some questions? Oh please listen So I just want to let you know I'm on pure bullshit today But as opposed to you. Yeah, my norm template of yesterday. I want the very serious yesterday I'm with the parents teacher Mmm. My daughter had the nerve to pull her teacher to the side after school because he kept saying the word negro After teaching about the Negro League now, I had to tell her like I almost called you to tell my daughter to come Look, he's teaching about the Negro League. She said he used the word negro excessively You can't pull a teacher. Who the fuck you think you are? I can't know what she said like you Negro sit down. Huh? Like was it like after he was the Yeah, she said that she said daddy. I understood he was explaining it, but he used it excessively I'm looking at princess like wait, I stay with princess. He's talking about the Negro League and you talk about I didn't like that Felt away real good. I felt a little racist towards my daughter I almost sold out cause I was on your side, but not because you would Know what I'm saying is I felt away in my in my mind is like come on princess like some battles You could battle and some not but she said that she said it like seven times She counted it and you pressing teachers. So you were parent teaching that I was a parent teacher Yeah, so I almost called you to see if they she did something right cuz I know if I wanted to scold her or champion Champion your daughter man, and then I came in with the Malcolm X hoodie He's his family's appeal, but I'm not I put y'all a little bit. You know I'm saying Happy I say man. I was tired a little bit Joe I'm sorry. What grade? What grade 11th? She's a junior. Oh That's a junior I was observing things wait, I was never junior The teachers teaching about the NBL the Negro whatever the NLB is he not supposed to use the word Negro? I'm not I'm listen I'm laughing because of all the things they could teach about us. They didn't need to talk about They play The school system and wow they represent black people come on don't stop me today. Don't stop me today Please not today. I'm in a good mood. I saw Imani as parks to heart hitting questions Oh You be in here for too long before you say what up man you be in it for like 30 minutes before me and you even speak to That's the old school bag. Hey when he get a shape up. Yeah We acknowledge it got the clarity sweats on I thought you was a nigga to pull the gun on the barber He likes it like you but you good Yeah, just saw it. Yeah, you look good. What's up? How much how much is that? That's vintage man like a G a G $1,000 For a hoodie, what do I'm not being fucked up. I got wings or some shit These get money That's not my K-word the clothes Yeah, I knew a lot of them was like that that's that ish merch, but I didn't know you had like $1,000 hoodies in that shit man, that's what's up, man Must be nice Freeze are you doing I'm great man glad to be here. How y'all doing feel great? Am I good? I'm sick, but I'm over it. I feel good man. I thought I was getting sick again, but not No, I definitely got a little chest cold sword road is coming So how's coughing they keep sending a fucking kid over this? Not say a word. I had enough one time and said something back I tried to fight up for dad right like your dog. They huh? Huh, they gonna send the kid? No, okay. Yeah primary with them. I Don't get it That is Step on a moment With muteness this motherfucker. Yes, they'll send What the fuck did I say this fucking guy throw me over the stupid shit he just did uh Oh, I say yeah, I can't get sick as the nigga that's out here working and moving around I don't have time to get sad. I'm the last person that both of us you want to get sick jump up, but you're a dad But you're a fuck Anyway, I'll be fine though. Hey Susan your kids school sick on purpose. How sick No fever Yeah, maybe or light fever You go in school. Okay. Yep the daytime Danny go on school for oh school I do it too. I ain't no father only Long ain't no fever. Yes, you do it stomach hurt. Don't worry about it. Be I could be a My son was caught I had to give him a steroid to stop the car. No, but it was good I needed to stop till he got through the door And is that well it's both snow I missed the snow. All right I got that I missed the snow. I like a little bit. So I would you miss about it? I'm a new Yorker. I know what you're doing true and true I'm here for the change of weather the contrast Seasons changing. It's a beautiful thing. You go. I have winter without the snow. Are you going out? We had winners without the snow and I'll take that they ain't they ain't always been winners to me I don't got to be a blizzard snow. Just some are you going to play in the snow? All right, so you're gonna sit outside my I might okay, well, let me see. I might sit outside Might sit on a balcony. I might I might take a trip. They got Mike go to Colorado somewhere What the fuck are you talking about? I love this night. I let me say that's what it's no police I missed the snow. No, you don't miss a snow. No you niggas could go to fucking y'all can move to Florida or somewhere Son is out all year If I could live in LA I would I would be there 12 and I saw no where you live you not even shoveling on That shit come right off. It's a dog for that. I ain't shoveling shit save No, I don't need to hell no, you're gonna tip you gonna tip the nigga that shovel us. I don't even see the nigga that do it I don't know what it's done ain't nobody to take Do you shovel your bill all your properties you shovel for the tenants? Yeah, you yourself That's dedication that is dedication. Yo, Lord of the year right there. Oh, you're getting the car Come on, bro. You gotta get a guy you not out there. You got guys I Shovel nigga if it's clothes you not out there shoveling boys You know why he need body in the stone face No, we don't believe you you not outside shoveling nigga You getting your car in driving a house to shovel at one time Okay, I apologize if I believe that before I believe he paying somebody to go out there and travel He's gonna get some trouble. Well, that guy he got that I saw him with don't charge much Miss delicious freezing I Shovelling or the salt will you salt into oh? Calcium or rock salt Yeah, you want to get fancy and how much of it no, I leave a book. I'm like salt He tried it I leave a bucket at each house. I leave a bucket a five pound a big bucket. Okay. That's cute But do you is that extra did you salt it? Yeah salt it nigga you leave it by hand Little bullshit, and you leave a cup in there black ice What the fuck is that any black ice in your profits? Oh, that's the fancy salt. Yes, the shit No, no, no No pellets The calculation nigga each house Oh Me I want to you show me you show off here. I get it even when it's deep It's lost for snow for landlord you got a snow. Well, you need a guy though So you ain't got a driving that shit when he's no blizzard out there go ahead you do that No, put your faith in the guy. Oh, yeah, the guy not going Faith in the guy paid them enough in indian Come by every time it's no You pay him right don't you yeah Yo, who's I should this thing I can't I get I know this guy so a lot of people Why do you think that people be lying yo, I didn't say nothing about line you like yo who's watching this cuz you Who the fuck is watching I'm gonna figure it out like the chair company shit That's gonna be my chair company purpose And he know it Every time you get a shit like when you look fucked up you let shit loop boy you look sharp I look fucked up sometimes sometimes you be so stolen ever seen a talkative mysterious Like I'm not to get into this nigga. Now you pissing me to fuck off I know him for too long Steven still be for what I don't know Alright, cool. I don't know how you talking if it was serious It's impressive My nigga people ask me direct questions. I answered the questions. Yo, you shovel your own snow. Yeah, no, no, you don't But look how you do I do though. Yeah, I shovel it You don't do this face. I answered you communicate. Do you yes? I do yes, and let me tell you how you don't do that Mike drop right yeah, it was no, no, you don't you can't possibly shovel your own snow you lying mr. Ishe give him socks I put on my old norface I get outside with my ski pants on it Don't want to and shovel my own snow bra. So that's how early You got to wait until it's finished snowing you got a certain amount of time after a finished snow enough to show It's nose overnight. You're there six seven a.m. No, I probably get out there like ten That's fire. Okay. Good landlord man. Yeah, I try Cut the grass to yes, what he wanted to read. Yes, I'm sorry. He probably used that to freeze I should have just no bitch with my rent With my rent at I don't think you refers to a certain snow. Oh, yeah, Paulie. So we're snow be Just know be where my red at You got it you too cool look at that I love you I think about you like a home That's cute you shovel yes, no send the people Mr. Joe you want me to wait the car down that shit over being the snow they still wait with it I have managers Yeah, they get me I had to wow this podcast dream. I'm listening y'all. It's kind of like my dream a little bit No, for real. That's funny when you had to work dreams Yo, dog stage over. I ain't even a dude to be remembering his dreams either. You need y'all Do y'all dream a lot? Yeah, but if they go out this is a wake up. It's over. No, I don't even think I really Need I used to I don't drink no more. You're taking that Melatonin. Yeah Like hold on Let me guess life is just kicking I don't know what that means, but I don't be dreaming a lot when I was young I did just be darkness Tomorrow Yeah, we was somewhere Pardon and we was it was all of us though like all of us Mona's ain't old everybody right, but we was somewhere remote pardon and it was a big-ass space and It was somebody that we whoever we was talking to we had to do that interview it wasn't booked We but we had to do it and as we was doing that doctor oomar walked in Now I'm trying to rush you ever the fuck this is but they won't get up and then Rory More people come in Mandy came For you Fucking the JVM showing that no, it's not No, it's not not at all. Why was that happening? Then a fight broke out outside. All right. Yo, you're so comfortable you talk about the body broke out outside So then then the interview was over, but then I couldn't interview it was you break it up who was fighting you I said I'll be dreaming about work Who was fight people outside? Oh, oh not nobody inside. Okay, okay people outside, but then we rushed outside And then it got hectic outside and then I couldn't interview nobody was over. I Said wonderful dream What lesson did you take from that dream? Thank you for that dream none? Fucking dark what I just none we should know there was no lesson. We should interpret how many dreams we have We should interpret all that stuff, but I didn't take anything away from I just woke up like damn that was interesting He's the king. I forgot all about it too. Y'all started talking the umbrella. You know, yeah, wait, huh? He's the king. He's done. He talked about that policy a lot of people ain't gonna survive Now you know the people that came in, you know, it was under the umbrella So it's just God showing them nigga. Look what you started what you did motherfucker ego, physical Dria slap the shit out of you, bro Oh Glory and many they all the niggas over there. Oh the people that apparently was on the nigga shut the fuck up I mean I started who more? Cuz you you you want more you one of them. Oh, it's our guy. Oh my god. That's our guy. I'm done with you I was in here fucking with no She's doing you off time as your business I'm dual Carter situation with good And how is that these niggas fucking with knobs how explain it to me Slaying word for the penis Where Okay, I'm done with y'all for real that was funny Oh I keep it And they're like a little ninja, yeah, yeah Thousand of words, thousand of words Stare at your heart and look in your eyes Shouts to all the Patronies, shout to wherever you might be Lifted up front Gave my shots, god for her Ain't nothing worse than a broken man Whole New York City, Big Jersey Y'all should be about done with those leftovers by now Nah, y'all should be done Come on, Barks Don't be that guy I threw my turkey away this morning I had her cleared out, it's over now It's all right It's clear the fridge out, man Clear the fridge out Get that fucking sucka-tash out of there It's over I'm gonna lose your buns Bar me, I've been on a tie-down, I can't go all weekend All week, grab it Yes, sir! I got mixed emotions All these times, all these drugs They be about to judge Still my blood, though you tired I'm not packing them drugs, leaving it sweet I don't stand a chance The first and last time listeners Always for the ladies I make that attempt Running a jeep, and I'm gonna be a band Everybody traveling, everybody running around Who here knows the new UD plans? Not I, just got mine I think I'm being a sane kid I got invited to speak at the Prime Minister's Gala All right, all right, all right, man, all right I know I'm playing art What happened? I know I'm playing art And that's speaking at the Prime Minister's Gala Yeah, word But still He tore this chick up, Leon Thomas She used a different smell All the long shit from her name Come on, you act like it's on frame And I don't know how to feel All right, man, shout out to all the happy couples out there Shout out to all the miserable couples as well Christmas is coming, I don't know how y'all Gonna handle that in the household, it gets dark It gets dark That fight got some carry over into the holidays And a birthday and a Valentine's day and all that Now you gotta play nice, cause it's kids in the house My heart goes out to you Some of y'all don't celebrate groupies, I forgot The lucky ones I ain't as yo what y'all wanna start with You know what you start with You know I don't What's your boy up there? My man Mark Who saw it besides me? I ain't see the dark, I want to fuck What time it came out? Three, three in the morning I shoulda watched it Game out of three in the morning You watch the all four? I watch it this morning I'm a ballooner too I wake up at five Cause I was on Netflix at midnight I was like alright, I forgot I did the same thing I was up but I forgot about it I just didn't cut the news on Man it's juicy Is it? I see they tied it It's a lot of motherfuckers in there Where they found them It's juicy It's real juicy It's probably like the juiciest No no, you better watch the mouth The first 15 minutes You just be in it now It's right there by the rim We too old No, we nine We eat talent, man parts keep telling you Grow down Yeah fuck you See you on a bed Hey you love me I know you love me Alright man Can I touch you? You're back I know you love me That pussy feel like Stop tapping the right Whoa whoa Stop tapping the right Whoa whoa Stop tapping the right Stop tapping the right Stop tapping the right I got you I got you I got you I got you I got you I got you I got you I just wanna see you Niggie, leg spray Oh my I just wanna see you Niggie, leg spray Oh my I know you love me No no no no no no No no no no no no I don't know how they got spit up like that Too many knots No sir, darling Just call it Just call it Just call it Your eyes are finished Who was that? Who was that? Who was that? It's marked in my head, push me Push me, push me, push me Flip, flip, flip Put some bass in your voice Flip, flip, flip Game over and they get it Yeah that was on it It was on Inspire Can we do it again? Let's do it again, count to three One, two, three Flip, flip, flip Hey yo, you know I fucked up Hey, flip Holy shit I sent two plants to the rim I love you I'm tipped at I love you I love you What episode is this? 883 Welcome to episode 883 of the Joe Button podcast Brought to you by Proud by PricePiz I'm Joe This is Queens Flip That's our good brother Mark Lamont Hill That's our good brother Ishe right there That's freeze the freesiest of the mall That's P.O. This is Corey What happened? I'm not gonna do it too, I love you Now what happened? I love you What you doing? This is my man You're just a bullshit Look at him Look at him He's such a guilty face Oh no, well that part ain't a question We seen him do it We seen him do it Oh niggas Till now we gotta talk about it First of all, you should put a minute work sign on the door Or You should not disturb it But he don't So he got the door just wide open You get crazy Why someone's in here wide open Crazy right He was talking with the knobs First of all, it was in with the adabisi So when you hear a door slam or some shit That should be like, okay Someone's coming Let me do something Let me get up close the door, I get back to this pussy He old nigga here couldn't do that So now the door wide open So somebody walk by He got the blanket over there Oh shit Oh shit Oh shit What the fuck Glory, what the fuck Yo, this is niggas old nigga man Oh shit Niggas giving them a terminator pump Oh my god Anyway, Cory is here That's good man Erickson is here Tanner Savani here by Ramon last but certainly not least Each and every one of you guys Are here man, everybody look good Smell good, come on, let's get right to it I was up at 5am Watching the reckoning Right to it That is the Puff Daddy piece executive produced By 50 Cent, I don't even think that's fair Because there's a lot more names involved in this piece But 50 is kind of He's the star name But it's mad other names So but fuck it, executive produced by 50 Cent on Netflix It's a four part series Is there any other industry names on there Or just other names Just out of curiosity Like any names that people would No That's what industry names are Yeah, I was thinking like Record execs or anything like that No but it's not Just by one person Is what I'm saying Like I'm sure those people Are accomplished So this is them coming together And it's My point is it's a very well done piece It's a very Well, depending on who I like well done documentaries Let me put it that way Me too I'm glad it wasn't a quick hack rush job Because they did a bunch of old Yeah, they did Everybody just had a bunch of Yeah, just showing the same It was a bunch of them This one was very well done I watched when episode one was on I said, okay You're recapping I've heard all of this They're starting at his Early years in background And yada yada The early stages of And I'm like, alright we've seen all of this Before And I mean most of the footage We've seen part two was about Like I just saw it a couple of hours ago So be with me part two was about Biggie And the west coast and Park and More shit than we've seen before Yeah, but told differently Told differently This one did more It basically Just puff for Biggie and Park Wow Which is something we've heard before This piece takes A lot of the reasonable Doubt away Like they do a good job Of laying it at his feet I was pissed by episode two I was absolutely pissed by episode two Pissed at the dock or pissed at puff Puff Because the way the dock Is framing it Was big didn't want to Go to LA at all Like that little segment and we maybe Have heard that before this dock did a good job Of making you say Right after Park dies Why would Biggie want to go To LA to finish recording that Like that just sounds real stupid It does a little bit And then they got interviews With all these key people Even if they are saying something you heard before They're saying a little more In depth so they got the guy saying I forgot his name sorry They got him saying Biggie was supposed to go to LA and then run with me Over to London Two days later but That didn't happen He was urged to stay I mean and then they get into the Swapping of the rolling stone cover Again more things that you have heard But how it How it frame it Somebody And again maybe that's 50 There's somebody in the know Putting this timeline together Yeah I was saying fuck him For the big by episode 2 I gotta watch this tonight Episode 3 Then they get into The Women and just you know where You know where it goes and 4 is the end And 4 is the end Like at him Now Cassie They got footage of They got all the footage Ryan Leslie Bringing Cassie in the conference room And then Puff at the head In the studio with Puff Saying I like this song but I want to love it I need a rapid need to do this part That you on Ryan Leslie And then there was no more Ryan Leslie Then it was Kim Porter was the wife But then Cassie was the wifey And then when Kim Porter would come around And Cassie would go to the spa Or some shit because they couldn't be around each other And they got fucking Al Besshore And they got Eric Sermon in there talking about Misa Talking Yo when Puff met Misa Yada yada like it's just A world wind of Shit I won't call it a hit piece Because they did focus on his success as well And that's the story they were telling Is like But the success drove him to be a monster Is that how they framed it? No, no I won't say that But The guy you just The guy that got away at every turn And Continue to rise And rise more and then When this guy did the Danity Kane Went into the hole making the band Shit and what that looked like With today's ears and climate His relationship With Aubrey And how he was sending Our shit on some Yo I'm masturbating tonight I'm gonna think of you and yeah I wanna fuck and when That didn't go right Then they pan right through the footage of him kicking out of the group And she looking at him like Oh wow She looking at him like did she speak in the dark? Did she speak in the dark? I think so It's all fuzzy It's all fuzzy Oh no this is It's all fuzzy but she looked at him like My man Really? Cause he's sitting there saying You're not provocative enough You're not proboscis but you know Shit Word Yeah and then it got into when I was done with Danity Kane He fucking exed that whole group Took Dawn put in dirty money now In the group So he's the focus The story they kept trying to tell was he always wanted to be the focus The executive who had all these Artists but I'm the I'm the arcs We start the chug speech from the social Then they got in the chug They got in the What he said at the source awards What Puff said at the source awards How chug was Albie Shure's bodyguard And how that turned to executive This was just a very Well done piece Involving a lot of info that you know But Framed a certain way and with some more Shit Cause they have footage of And this is what I guess Puff's people was Beefin about they have footage of Like six days Before the arrest They got fresh footage of him in the car Oh shit Him talking to lawyers That's the clip that was going viral Yesterday was Him and Harlem hugging people They didn't do that no good either The doc was like and when everybody turned They back on him and was totally over Now you're back in Harlem Now you're walking around Your man of the people on all of these Like they was making it seem Not making it seem at one point They said he don't fuck with black people Oh shit damn They said that shit Wow I hate that I'm the only one that saw it We'll have to report Cause I'm kinda scatterbraining this whole thing Because I was just taking a back Well it seemed like Diddy's people were taking it back too When the piece came out with the footage They said first of all they called it a shameful hit piece But they said His lawyer said quote stolen footage Was never authorized For release So either there's a rat Or somebody lying From what I know Is that the person that records the footage Belong to them I don't think that Puff Unless they signed I don't think that he had time Or he had the person sign anything Cause in my mind I met the person I met the person Don't usually have you sign that shit before you start recording Not where you gonna do all that shit It might be a hasty year The person like Puff I don't think he thought about it though You know they coming to get you So you trying to put out some shit Well here's what Alexandria Stapleton said Which speaks to what y'all said Alexandria Stapleton is the director of the docu series She's the one that was doing the press with 50 and all that She said it came to us We obtained the footage legally and have the necessary rights We moved heaven and earth To keep the filmmakers identity confidential One thing about Sean Combs is that he's always Filming himself And it's been an obsession throughout the decade Which might answer the other question He's been out to his legal team for an interview And comment multiple times but did not hear back So it sounds like To y'all point like he They ain't getting no illegal footage No it wasn't illegal it's just a person That gave it to them you might look at them funny Right and the reason Puff might do that Like he said if you're obsessed with filming yourself And you know you're going to prison in four days Well he may have had his own doc plans I'm sure Oh especially if he won Well that's the other thing I said to myself watching It's like there's footage from 89 Like Wow I was outside in 94 I can't find a fucking A video of me doing shit It's a lot of footage Of him doing Everything That's the other part that was I'm telling you They had one of his male escorts on And the dude said Every March 9th Religiously No matter where I was Him and Cassie flew me out To be where they was at Specifically on March 9th Wow That's a little creepy That's what I'm saying There's a lot of other shit that was just like And then later on he goes on to say He goes on to say that Toward the end of their Whatever they were doing They would collect his semen In a cup And He didn't say nothing for a few times And then finally he did He was like, yo, what the fuck Fuck that shit I was doing with my semen And they said Puff was like Yo, I like to make her drink it Play with it Douse And then why? What's the problem with it? And then they have some They have him on that type of shit Very early too Earlier than all of this But you know that that's there But back to the dirty money shit From making a band to dirty money The story that they were telling in there The other girl from dirty money I forgot her name And let me just say The dirty money album is a classic It is The dirty money album is a classic And the remix album too Fire They did a remix album So they got her saying that The relationship between Puff and Dawn Was very strange as well Like Like If you ever met a billionaire What would you do to be his Girl or be in his Cocky Von Yeah Kalina Oh wow, Cassie is there So it's just, it painted It's a lot of facts It's a lot of footage However they got the footage It certainly helped in this In this story they were telling It did It did It did make you feel like At the end he didn't get enough time Really Really It would have to They showed a shine shit They showed a girl They showed too much shit to where it's like If you don't believe this Or if this didn't do it for you Or if this didn't do it for you It's like certain shit is too consistent In the story that they tell Did they mention anything about the trial Like where the state fucked up Or the feds or whoever was Trying to get everything like that No Before every episode They did the black screen With the puppet serving such as such He is charged with such as such as such He wasn't charged with such as such as such Whatever they said in the police I don't even read them shit after Once I see it saying the same thing But Yeah What a fucked up start to the morning To watch it It wasn't great And then it's banger after banger After banger after banger in this Oh They had the music? I mean yeah You can't tell a story without I didn't know they had license for it That's why I was like oh that's Some of the music I mean Benjamin's came on My Money Mill Problems came on The awards with him performing With Sting coming out is like every And even that is real sinister If you get into what they're trying to say I wonder how they got that I guess it's fair use Fair use Oh right Whoever was in charge of collecting The footage and the Clarence and the And the paper clippings They did the right thing They did that thing Yeah you went crazy Yeah And then Puff is saying this shit is a hit piece Because of that little clip They got going around of him saying I need a shower And I hugged 150 people So I need to bathe and cleanse myself I need to stand hand sanitizer Oh buddy That ain't it Who cares about that No that's absolutely nothing I actually agreed with him Oh he was right about that I absolutely agreed with him If I'm out here just hugging and kissing And I'm one hand sanitizer I don't even want to shake 50 hands I mean but he's even going to Shake 50 other things at these parties I'm just taking a germ full Yeah a lot of knobs But I'm telling you that was part of them Attempting to frame it like your dog He don't fuck with them I didn't get that I could take that with it That could be with anybody But I get what you say Because I would do the same thing Yeah No matter what the crowd would like After a cut I'm going to wash my hands Wash my hands It's crazy Then from that to the Seraq deal Like this guy has been The pinnacle of success for They got in the Sean John It's like this guy Elevated each other No I had 60, 80 and 100 million In the 90s Yeah Late 90s Yeah that's a long time A lot of fucking money In the recent footage He's like yo I'm on my way to the bank To deposit 200 million They're holding the bank open for me Yeah God damn Some light Holding the bank open I hold the bank open too For 200 million dollars You gotta hold the bank open Oh for sure You want the bulge? You want the ballstick? Especially if you understand how Banks work Yeah it works They gotta take that 200 The bankers stay open for a week Bro If you're gonna bring in 200 million Off of 200 they're gonna make 2 billion, 4 billion dollars Whatever the fuck They're gonna make off your 200 million Yeah They open We'll leave this shit open You can come next Thursday We won't close You want flat or spark? We'll leave it open Fuck you, you talk about it Whenever you feel like it Just show up Crazy It left me saying I wish he had Like real friends at some point But when you making that much And you worth that much You don't get that And you that type you don't get that And I'm not saying that he don't But I'm saying If you're that type of person You can have real friends What I was gonna be my question Because I mean we see other billionaires Yes you can have real friends If you're that type of person You can have real friends I disagree You can I don't think so I think that the narcissism And these people will Real friend We saying it under the It implies that The real friend is a good guy Yeah Yeah but the real friend But the real friend Will be the one to hold you to the fire Or make you accountable for certain shit And certain narcissistic people With that level Gonna kick the people away from them Yeah you get away from me If you're telling me the truth Not necessarily Let me ask you a question I'm not saying that Because I do think that I do think that he has somebody Somewhere that is a real friend I was gonna be my question Does anybody know who that person is Because I've never heard You know like people like Hope You know he's a crew that he came up with A lot of other Dre I mean there are people who are Billionaires who have crew I just never heard of like a long term Close puff friend D-Rock you said Okay I'm asking because I don't know I don't I think there are names out there The same way he just said D-Rock I'm not gonna name names here I do think that That could be That will hold him accountable Yeah that's good It may not be many And I don't want to sound like I'm vouching Saying it's confirming I can't confirm But I ain't gonna say that name My hearing some of these people talk A lot of people Looked at it as a benefit I sense a lot of fear also You know me he instilled fear And so I was telling J.R. the same thing People were scared of puff You know what I mean And this is why somebody would record footage And he wouldn't have to sign a document Because the nigga wouldn't even play with puff And do that You know puff would have to be incarcerated In order for a person to even play with him Like that to even give up footage The nigga wouldn't do that regularly He wouldn't even need any contracts You know me as I stated J.R. and I met the person who was Capturing the footage You know what I mean So But did you get a sense of what the footage was for Did they say anything to you about it Yeah but it was full recording I mean it was outside the courthouse They were recording the sons Like it was the thing that like Joe was saying He was trying to record It was told to us that Trying to get a documentary puff Wanted to record this Wanted to record this whole journey Because puff felt that he would be He was coming home So that's what he wanted to do But it just did a whole 360 180 180 180 180, bomb it Sorry The world has never seen anything like puff Puff is in that That's my job Puff is in that That That Yeah a different The world has never seen Nothing like this before Like even watching it You never seen You never saw A sinister Mega talented More talented than everybody Slash By Gangster That sold it Like this guy is In his league of his own Mmm He is It's dark and it's twisted And there's some other words that come to mind But you ain't never seen anything like that I know you know that's been the thing that's been said You know whispered for years When it was like Anybody that left there I had to run to some religion at some point Like what did you see there that was that bad That I gotta get away from this thing and get religion Mmm Mmm And I'm telling you With all of this shit I still think That if he comes out And says the right rehabilitative shit America loves to be a different person It is a path I think for sure Absolutely His resilience, his persistence And his just overall Willingness and drive to win It's something you can't teach He's also really smart at doing things Like buying a thousand turkeys for the jail He's gonna do some shit like that And we're like oh he's not such a bad guy And he also got powerful friends That's a winner We keep forgetting that problem Who he has dirt on Yeah And they know that But I think I'm gonna make Puff be the black G-Lane I ain't saying it like that But I'm telling you I'm sure there's a couple cups of cup floating around I'm talking about what he possesses I think the shit that he possesses And just again We heard the stories of him going to Howard But he's driving from DC to New York In a rabbit You know what I mean He's interned He's going to college full time And coming back to New York In a fucking Volkswagen rabbit That just speaks to his drive And his dedication to be great Like everybody won't do that And I think that certain niggas Just got that in them Yeah, they just got that in them That niggas a different level of persistence And niggas said can't stop, won't stop Yeah, bro I think if Puff hit the ground today And he was broke I think in five years Puff would be back at multi-million easily Like a hundred million in five years If he was dirt flow apart And it makes you think a little bit ish Like he had to be confident in the outcome Because he preserved the relationships, right? I'm going to use these relationships If he does have dirt in anybody At when I need to Not at a time like this It makes you think a little bit deeper Like okay If we say he do got dirt on people He ain't use it at all He took the brunt of it He took everything Or he has Or he might have used the brunt Maybe more people didn't come for it Because of dirt Maybe more people didn't sign on to the back But I'm talking about the exact That's what I'm talking about I'm talking about the exact I'm saying I don't know one way or the other I'm not saying that's the case I'm just saying Puff is so sophisticated And power is so powerful That there's no way to know what's happening behind the scenes And let you back there That's all I'm saying I wouldn't know one way or the other I think there's also like a billionaire code Where he probably is like I'm going to go do my little five years Or whatever it's going to I'm going to eat it Matt, I'll be fine I'm not about to piss off these other billionaires Right, that's what I'm saying They're going to be useful to me In the five years Or they may aren't being useful to me now True I agree with that Can I ask a question about this code Because that was one of the things That came up during the press run I was watching Good Morning America For example, Robert Roberts interviewed The director and 50 Cent and other people 50 Cent, to your point, Joe Is one of many people who are part of this series But he's been the face of it And obviously he's been using it To promote the documentary But also to troll a little bit on social media A lot bit for a long time And some people are like Oh, you got him, you the petty king Other people have been like This is not okay For example, Jauru, another one of his enemies Tweeted today, you know, this is rat shit You're a rat There are a lot of people who echo that You know, in terms of the code If one of your colleagues does something like this When he appears, does something like Whatever puff is involved in and been convicted of Is there any violation from 50 Cent To make a documentary about it 50 Cent doing anything wrong? 50 Cent plays by a different set of rules When it comes to that shit though Like, you my enemy, it's up for you forever I want to do whatever I can to see you down And there's some people that roll with that I don't think it's rat shit because He wasn't involved in it with him And I think rat, when someone's ratting It's the definition of what ratting is But I don't even mean just the rat things We always debate, I mean kind of like Is it just violating any kind Is there anything fucked up about it? If you're puff I mean, if you did that shit It depends on what side you stand on It depends on what side you stand on Like, if you my, pardon me, Joe If you my enemy for a long time I'm gonna do whatever, if, if, if Because we can say I don't think puff did anything that detrimental To make you do that Some people can say that In his mind, it's like If you my enemy for a long time I'm gonna do whatever it takes to kick you down Keep you down or whatever it takes to kick you back in And if you on the other side You be like, nigga, what are you doing? Like, I wouldn't do this to you What are you doing? That's not part of the game That's not part of the code You know, you're participating or hopping on a bandwagon And keep another man down, a black man You know, whatever It's just depending on what side of the coin you stand on What you saying, Joe, huh, Ford? No, exactly what you said Either you're on the side of You're gonna feel something when you see a black man Kicking down a black man when he's at his worst Or you're on the other side of This is run of the show And I don't think that they're enemies I think that 50 is in This is his line of work Yeah, that's where it gets tricky to I think he's in television now Yeah, that's where it gets tricky to See, that makes it like Man, I think it's more than that Huh? I think he views puff-assist enemy And this is my line of work So I can use this to Drop more on my enemy If anybody else in this line of work We not calling in to question their emotions Behind when they are doing a piece The rules change, we play a different game He's in a different sport Yeah, he's in movie and TV And that's the gig Yeah, but you ain't did this for nothing else Like you are specifically targeted We know you've been had beef with this man for years Less money and everything else I'm just saying, if that's my enemy And I see the opportunity And this is my line of work here It's just a perfect start But that's still my enemy I'm not saying he's never done this before I think that a lot of what he's done Has been his interpretation Or interpolation of something that happened The fucking life series on ABC True story, fucking The BMF shit is a true story Yeah, but I'm talking about trying to Again, with enemies You know, you look at Jha Every chance he get he tries to step on Jha Every chance he gets he gets But you can't certain the word enemies Because I believe that to be his enemy That's the first question Okay, then why the enemies? There could be some There's some whisperings Oh, I haven't heard those I'm not repeating that I don't want to broadcast them But if that were to be true I could understand it Well, I think one way to think about Ice is like There's certainly evidence that he would have an issue with him It's just a question of whether that issue rises to the level of enemy Because you can have it be for somebody but not enemy Because with 50 as an enemy it's up forever Is the puff shit that intense or is it also just competition? That's for him to decide though You know what I'm saying? That's the line for me, right? If I'm in the TV business And I could shoot anything, make a documentary about anything And there's this one thing that Could be put out about an enemy Yeah, I might take that opportunity You just did Yeah, that's different Which we'll get to too But if it's just somebody who I have a friendly competition with Then I might not double down on it Some people are different and that's what I'm saying Some people are better at playing chess, Mark That's how I look at it What's the end game? What does victory look like? Because I'm pretty sure that There were things that if we look at it from a different scope That puff did to take shots at fifth at certain times You know what I mean? If you just know the know Wasn't puff on the agate money remix? Yeah, and it was funny because when they were in that studio together I mean, alright, so that's the difference to me And I'm not saying that means so much But even in that, because 50 and J have had tensions But there's no beef, right? And I think that's the difference Yeah, that's what I'm saying I think the beef started after that by the way From what I remember When Hove went through this fucking funny shit recently Fifth put it on his... Yeah, he was going at him Fifth was at him And that's what I'm saying, he does a little bit of troll and he's always competing And we start this with knowing that he don't give a fuck Right We start this just with a common knowledge that 50 don't give a fuck And for me it's hard to find any blame or a sign that he blamed the 50 Because puff did all this shit Exactly, that part too So it's like, it's one thing if like, puff just went broke Let's just say he developed a terrible heroin addiction and he had gone broke No crimes, that just went broke If you make a documentary about that, to me that's like... Petty, yeah That's petty and like unnecessary But like making a documentary about someone who actually did harm to people And was found guilty in the court of law and the ear Yeah Well that's why calling it a hit piece is laughable Because you'll call the piece on it a hit piece, but not the piece in it Right Right Right I'm watching I'm definitely going to watch it Oh, definitely watch it I was watching 50 do the press run, did y'all see him do the press run? Because he was basically down playing all the beat He was like, there's no beef, we had a little competition Or you know, there was no competition I just didn't like the fact that he came after, you know, he was trying to hide that beat And he was explaining this to Robert Roberts And I don't think he was like, you know, he just came at me a little side You know, he kept trying to take me shopping to see what he could play with me You know, implying that Puff was gay And I'm like, you tell us to Robert Roberts who may be the gayest announcer on TV So it didn't go the way I think he wanted it to And then I saw the director kind of jump in and say, no, no, no, it's not about that It's also about all this other shit, a lot of people were involved in it So I think they're going to have to be very careful how they... Frame the wise? How they frame, yes, that's exactly right on this press run Because you don't want it to look like a hit piece You also don't want it to be about diddy sexuality and all these other things If you want the mainstream to embrace this Because this could win a lot of awards if it's as good as you're saying it is Because people love to give awards to shit like this Just like the R. Kelly... True You know, they love to give awards to shit like this and they should R. Kelly shit was a point in viewing R. Kelly shit had each and every one of us at the TV I know, I didn't even go finish watching it, I never got through it For real? I've seen enough Okay I didn't watch the last one I've seen enough molesters in my day, it was hard to watch It was great in terms of the... In terms of the... Sometimes I got to take a break from that stuff I can do it, it makes sense And I feel like I should close this by saying With all of that said, none of that was my personal experience with Puff Because I hate when people do that Like, you think because somebody was with somebody that now they're saying something that they saw No, I'm talking about the peace And it's damaging What are you about to say? You know what I... I know you closed it, because you get going like that But what I battle with is that When you know someone And you know what side of the Coin you'll stand on To watch someone that you know and then you look up to or whatever When they just take another turn or do something that you may not do Life is very tricky sometimes Not tricky, but it's a hard pill to swallow Because what... Do I respect this? Because of the respect that I have? Because I wouldn't do it Or do I understand it? And that's where it becomes like for me I'm only speaking for me personally It doesn't matter, but it's a battle If you like somebody, you try to make excuses of why they're doing it But then say that there was a lot of opportunities for me to do things with people Which I'm not on that level, but I never did it So it's crazy That's all I want to say, I'm sorry Well, it's all about what you believe It's all about what your belief system is But then your belief system may change depending on the person that's doing it Like, if... That happens all the time People don't want to admit that, but that's a thing It shouldn't, but it does It happens all the more times than you do And we know, it's like, I would never do that Do you see it like, ah-ha Do you try to... Because you like them so much, because in a relationship you try to make a reason of Oh, I can see them doing that, but then all reality Niggas like, it still is what it is You know what I'm saying? So... Not many people stick to the it is what it is all the way across the board I got it, yeah It's almost impossible We all hypocrites, I say it every chance I get Number one Somehow I think y'all doing that Minimizes something I don't know that I agree with y'all Explain, but you... And again, everyone's belief system is made up I understand that Right? But triggers are triggers and fears are fears I think when you start having that conversation, it's deeper than Everybody's a hypocrite Or we accept this from this person and not this person No, there's some people who across the board have a healthy fear of anything sinister That does not change contingent on who the person is But for a lot of people, like Flip's saying, a lot of people It's things that they have this across the board feel about Until it's at their front door And then they might not necessarily agree, but they'll go out their way to try to justify it Or to understand it more because it's somebody that's close to them And then directly to their family or something like that Where I could be, I would never go with this, never, never, never, never And now it's your little brother or your son, your daughter Or your mother, something that hits you real close to home You get a little bit more room for understanding That you normally would Our capacity for nuance expands the more we love somebody, I think And I don't think that means that we're wrong for doing it Maybe it should mean we should be more nuanced with people we don't know Yes, see, to me, that ain't changing my belief system If I'm against murder, and that's how I feel across the board And I don't want to drag this, but that's how I feel across the board And now my son comes home and he's murdered Yes, I'm going to be there for him Yes, I'm going to have an understanding, maybe Yes, I'm going to support him and try to see him through this Would you turn him in? I think I answered this before I know, but there's a lot of people that What did you say? They might have said maybe See, but the fact you said maybe No, they said yeah before Today I'll say maybe, but I think I lean closer to the year, but you're stunning me Really? You think you're a pet of the circumstances? No, I don't think so But look, just the fact that you're saying maybe, Joe I'm raising men to be accountable for their actions I'm raising men to make decisions that help before they get to that spot I'm raising men differently than trying to be a coward or hide them when they do some fuck you I can see not hiding them, I'm just not making a call Oh, shit, fuck you? I'm not hiding you, but I'm not I can see not hiding them What did he do? Your kid go shoot up a school, we come home to you, what do you do? You not turning them in? Turning him in, no You not calling the police? No Okay, then we build different We just build different He didn't up a school, I don't know What I'm saying is I wouldn't protect him That's the way he get in the I could understand that other brain is But the shoot up a school is also not where we started It was initially when he came home and murdered I was thinking more like a street beef, you shot somebody, not Columbine Well then I asked a new question, which to me is in the same realm I don't have kids, but If your kid do something, you said there was no world in which I'm turning them in I challenged that, I challenged that I wouldn't say no world, but I think it would have to be something as extreme As extreme as a school shoot But if you just tell me he got a beef with somebody over some shit and he shot somebody And he comes home like, yo dad, shot somebody, the police is looking for me You can't hide here Your kid raped the neighbor, your kid raped the neighbor, four houses down from you God forbid, of course But now I'm just throwing extreme situations at you I would force him to be part of an account Yeah, that's different That falls in So you're making the call in the instance Alright, so Mark, I'm doing something I specifically talked about making the call, the turning But again, Mark, don't believe in police Honestly, I probably call the neighbor and say, yo, he's here I don't know if I call the police, but again, I'd be part of the accountability process Yeah, that's right, Mark, don't believe in police, I forgot You know what I'm saying? That counts, that counts But I'd call the neighbor like, yo That got deep It did Sorry, it did You were too extreme I'm sorry I closed the topic and then you brought it back I just think that some of your parts got these like, hold on too long to these I can't call it hood ideologies because we all approach in 50 I think that we should start challenging some of the shit that we've been raised to think I'm not talking about Mark, he don't believe in cops But no, you can't just come in my house having have done anything I'm sorry We agree on that But hold on, I think a nigga should just come in my house You ain't even being asked where I'm scared of you now Yeah, I think you're fucking asking for fucking ideas I think a nigga should just be not hiding you from telling me I think a nigga should say Alright, so what you gonna do, your kid grow up and he already bad as hell He grow up and start beating you I've been thinking this through a lot Well, I think he's still training Yeah, exactly Y'all saw that shit in the basement of one of them They didn't force outside assailants No, oh my God Like, what you do if your kid just start beating your ass? You flip I'm gonna figure it out No, he's winning I'm gonna figure it out I'm gonna figure it out Figure what out That's a process Your combinations No, I'm thinking about it I think the problem with niggas But you ain't calling the police on them I'm not calling the police But I think a nigga should Are we calling somebody? I am calling somebody But I think a person like you should say Because you have the same beliefs Yo, with age, with maturity, with life experience I never had those beliefs I was about to say you were assuming that he had those beliefs But the call police on niggas They know that's murderous? To call police on niggas That he been around murderous To call police on the niggas That he know that's murderous No, he wasn't doing that He gotta stop that He grew as a man And he did that Alright, I grew No, he's been a rat for a long time No, no Y'all play around with the red word Hold up, hold up, hold up He could have been around people That he knew did criminal shit He ain't never Hold up, hold up That don't mean he witnessed nobody do some shit You could have knowledge of people doing shit Or you could know these people are involved In certain things But he ain't necessarily never witnessed it There's two totally different things And somebody coming to you saying I just did a murder is different Or you hearin' through the street Yo, such and such did Such and such, oh back in the day They did this The murderers I know were brilliant enough To never murder around me It wasn't like today's street niggas No, and if they did It would put me in a bind And I'm letting y'all know early Don't do it around me Because I'm not going in a bind No, stop, bro What? I'm not going in a bind Are you crazy? I'm respecting boss Do your dirt with over there You can't tell me I'm probably gonna No, I'd had detectives come knock on my door And you ain't say shit No, I went to rehab like a real nigga in the 90s Catch me here I volunteered The only one that volunteered in there They were so confused Yo, why? Don't worry about it We down I'm here with you That's what I did God damn it Anyway Anyway Now it's true Speaking of confrontation And I don't like Oh shit I don't like now Cause I'm thinking Stop, man I don't like us covering the topic When nobody saw it from me I don't like that I think we did great No, that was great I think we did great We did our worship We don't know about it I was over here like a church mouse peeing on cotton I'm sure you had A church mouse peeing on cotton Tell him, bro Tell him You've been a spokesperson for this whole doc Joe You gave a hell breakdown You made us want to see it It was a well done You know buff doing pull ups Oh, it's shit They're going to do pull ups When they get out of here They're going to do diamonds Joe, but Can't wait to see you boy What now Anyways Now it's time for my favorite part of the show Prize picks Barely see across that river right now, boy That shit coming for real Yeah, it's not That drive is going to be crazy That shit can stay there until I get home After that I'm good I don't want to hear no Dumb ass gloomy ass weather It don't bother me Shit, I see it right now it's like this They got to get home They got ain't home yet It don't bother me when I'm home I don't know what it's doing out there Got to get home to your daughter And the rain may make it on Why are you all such bitches Why are you all such bitches We drive an hour to your house They can drive somewhere Do you hear these niggas Oh my God The rain He don't drive It's so gloomy You got to spend a whole night on brother Ford You bitch 255 talking about It's gloomy outside What the fuck that got to do with Being in a fucked up environment Because being a man And wait, what the fuck is the environment Gloomy, don't nobody want to be Fucking thinking about this depressing bullshit You just want sun rays, right? All year You want sun rays all year, right? I mean, it ain't a bad thing to have It is a bad thing This world would be a piece of shit if it never rained That's why The rain contributes to your happiness You fucking fake happy ass nigga I'm not fake happy I ain't never seen you and you look so chipper These niggas are arguing about the weather I'm not It ain't these niggas I ain't ever seen an anthropologist Now you fucking chipper Jones over here Oh, that's my happiness You're a man You ain't supposed to be happy nigga I know Be a fucking man, grow a set and stop looking Outside at the windshield factor I'm just saying Applied y'all know You just complaining that he's a dad He gotta deal with the cold Nah, if he can't deal with the fucking thing I'm just saying Listen to the men Listen to y'all complain about the weather It's like when the girls say They hear men say, yo, next Friday Like that's what is similar to me Yo, next Friday I got you A man looking out the window saying A woman's brain A man saying, looking out the window And saying, oh my god, that weather is so spooky out there It's similar to, y'all, I got you next Friday I just don't like driving in the rain That's it I just don't like driving in inclement weather And I drive an hour nigga No, that's without the rain It's worse When you want nice things When you want nice things, that's what you gotta do I mean, you could live much closer You could live much closer You in your city But when you like nice things It's vacancies You take what comes with nice things Nights just close I've never heard of that I don't know what that is Is that like Ervington? Exactamundo You lucky I don't remember that name We can't call Philly niggas boy You would call him I call I wouldn't even feel comfortable saying that We don't even feel comfortable saying that We don't even feel comfortable saying that We don't even feel comfortable saying that We don't even feel comfortable saying that I'm not a ass freak boy That sounds crazy to me Like why would people in Philly be calling people that? Some people would be not ass freak boy But what did you gotta do to be that? Cause I got my gun on me And I really want you to jump It's like a poppin It's like a poppin top You said the most insulting shit you could think of And that's what you came up with In Philly In Philly In Philly At least in New York, the suck my dick is like Suck my dick you bitch ass nigga Yeah, that's gonna make him jump That's universal That's the same thing It's not like we immune to that in Philly Like you said that should be in Philly too But nah, they call each other dickheads and shit like that Dickhead is not that big Dickhead is live Yeah, dickhead is play play Yeah, like dickhead is like face Yeah, that's like the gloomy day Ooh, I'm a dickhead That's not the level Yeah, like when you ride the bus home from school You go back door, dickhead That's what you say to the bus driver Like that's what you say Like that's normal shit What? I wait for you to get up and walk to me Till I slip in the brakes Watch your dumb ass They say dick eating dickhead They say dick eating dickhead That's just rude to me man That's just rude Like dick's out there or something Yeah, like if I said like you're dick eating Like I wouldn't be insulted by that Aww I mean I'd be insulted But I mean it wouldn't be like next It was not fighting words But suck as shit is But nut after it But nut after it Bull is fighting words Call somebody nut back The first fight we got in Back in the day was somebody calling my brother nut I'm sorry my brother called somebody nut And he sent it and He called some He sent some girl your boyfriend and nut So he came up We were in eighth grade Dude was like you know It's a hood so he was like 22 And he came up and he beat the shit out of my brother And you just stood there and was like I jumped in Duck And he beat the shit out of both of us Yeah I'm sorry you went through that No problem I'm just saying But my brother shouldn't have called him a nut We learned a lesson Worst bystander to have in the world over here Don't jump in if we both just gonna get whooped on Let me just do Nigga I was in sixth grade Go call the police Go get some help man Go help call the police This nigga had a legal gun permit Nigga you can drink He's in sixth grade What you want me to do My brother fucking came And got me to help him with some nigga at the basketball court That was a little hefty I should have asked him to see a picture What we doing though That's when you first got your diplomatic back We don't have to do that You don't have to do that Everybody Let's all calm down Just give me ten minutes Holy shit Did I lose? Come and take a walk with me Calm down Don't talk to your bitch breathe Everybody let's breathe Yo breathe Yo you on fire son This is him So what everybody Come on we're a laughing man I knew the dude had to be on some shit Because me and my brother ain't get along at the time I need your help Yo come with me to the park real quick I don't know Alright man You said that nigga You say that big nigga you pop your own killie I remember right we jumped on his ass We was violent I was violent for drill but he was violent Anyway trauma Violence ice Violence ice A V word He doesn't say the V word You ain't know what ice cold is He doesn't say the V word Violence Violence Not violence Violence Not violence Violence freeze And then combat a fight Not mom dropping you off the back door of the school Back door of the school Mute a fight Mute a fight Punch out the real fight Not violent That was good He warmed up after two hours After two hours of meditation That boy goodbye After two hours of live meditation After two hours of My man I'll pace yourself when you older yo Once you do that after two hours of not chill Cut it out I'm straight I'm good We good It only got a warm up in it I mean I don't know Warm up that stick Get straight into it That nigga boy Dude At the live show what we do At the live show I would throw a tomato at them You know boo Get on the stage At the live show you know When the car takes too long to warn you Bang that bump on your head At the live show we got two hours buddy When these lights go up And they say ish You better hit them with your little teeth When we go to the queue When they push it You better haul them shake or something Figure it out Alright now it's time for my favorite part of the show Prize picks Oh did we do that already? We did We did it so well We did it so well They don't pay me to do it so well They don't pay me to do it so well Take one of them shits No I'm joking I'm joking I'm joking Alright what is prize picks you ask? Well I'll tell you as soon as my phone goes off Alright here we go Violent Alright this episode is brought to you by prize picks You and I make decisions everyday But on prize picks being right can get you paid So don't miss out on a shout out part So don't miss out on a shout out Hold me down So don't miss out on a shout out Y'all y'all have to see when Park's with the DJ He will miss the queue And just be tricking a best Me and Corey used to be so bad Oh shit wait where was I So make sure you don't miss out on any excitement in this any excitement in this four season on Price Peaks, whether you're a football fan, a basketball fan, or a fan of both such as myself, it always feels good to be right. Price Peaks is really easy and simple to play, just pick two or more players, look at their projected stat line, pick more or less for your chance to win big. Price Peaks also now offers stacks, meaning you can pick the same exact player, I mean the same player in the same exact lineup, so find somebody you like and think is ill and pick them a bunch of times. There you go. Now the Joe and Isch picks of the week, let's see what Isch is on this week. We're going with Kareem Hunt for more than 37 and a half rush yards, Justin Herbert for more than 206 passing yards, Jonathan Taylor for more than 17 and a half receiving yards, Jameer Gibbs for whatever the fuck he feels like doing that this, which here is more than 74 and a half rushing yards, and Devon A-Chain for more than 79 and a half rushing yards. If it wasn't for Mike McDaniels, he would be on my whatever I feel like doing this too. He's having a quietly really good season. Mike McDaniels feeding that motherfucker. He said quietly. He's on a mega phone. Mike McDaniel give him the ball every time. He's in the top five right? All Purpose Yards yeah. You catch him in. You got A-Chain and Jonathan Taylor on your team. You doing pretty good this season. My fantasy season is absolutely over with. Anybody that picked Justin Jefferson, he has six yards. I'm going to say quality. He has six yards. No they plan went, I was playing against somebody who had Seattle's defense. And I turned on the lowlights and seen what homeboy that high school quarterback was doing out there at the Vikings game. The fantasy gods is spoofing me. He was running backwards. He fell. They let Sam Darnold and Dana Jones go. Bruh. Yeah it's over man. I had Zay flowers and Justin Jefferson. I think one had four yards, one had six yards. Oh word. You started. Listen, you played the whole game. Download the app right this second and use promo code JBB to get $50 instantly when you play your first $5 lineup only on Price Bigs where it's good to be right. It's going to be right. So you out the playoffs in your other league? I don't know. I don't know. In my ESPN league I had the best team and now I can't beat anybody. He lost to me this week. Yeah it's over. But you're still in the playoffs I think? I'm preparing for August. I'm on. I beat you and got eliminated. I packed it up. I'm ready for August. I'm ready to draft. Yeah it's shit crazy. I'm ready to draft again. It's over. Justin fucking drafting JJ McConnell. I know the fuck was on my mind. I had Keev talking me out of so many people. Damn. Fuckin Keev. Anyway it's fine. So speaking of it feeling good to be right I was going to come in here to give my good brother Dark Lamont Hill some advice on how he runs his Patreon because I always see the clips and the captions and all that and the previews. So I have clicked on about 16 previews for Mark. You got some lights. So when I click it this is the preview. I click it. Hey y'all what's going on? This is your good brother Dark Lamont Hill here and ready to get into you about something. That's the preview. Yep. Hey y'all what's going on? Mark Lamont Hill here. Had an interesting talk with the bar this week and if you want. He has to extend the preview. You may have let this happen 16 times before telling me. So I wasn't going to say nothing but it happened to me too many times so today I was coming to tell him this is how you this is what's happening with the preview you should make it a little longer but then this morning when I woke up. Why you weren't going to say nothing? Because that's his business. Yeah he can do it. Just for the record if you do a business that makes a million times more than my business feel free to give me advice. No I thought he was doing like that on purpose. No I didn't know. That's how people do the previews. No you just told me that. It's automatically 15 seconds. He got to put it to the two minutes or something. I didn't even know Patreon could preview stuff. I wish I would. Hey buy this. I'm about to try to read the answer. They got the preview. That's like free dough. That's like the niggas in the food court with the toothpicks and the shit. He's the fucking juggies. So anyway this morning I wake up. He didn't do it. I paused the puff doc because Mark put out a new Patreon and it said preview. Messy boots Mark. This time though. This one I did. When I clicked preview it looked so good. It was everything I wanted to see. He got the lights. It was everything. It was like five minutes. That wasn't his career man. That was a studio. He put some bread. He doesn't use the iPhone no more. Well this one the caption worked. And the preview. I need the preview. Join me for my exclusive interview with Brian McKnight Jr. and Julie McKnight. I'm so glad to have been part of this raw, honest and healing dialogue. I don't need to see nothing. Purchase. Well I hit preview. I did not hit purchase. That's what I said. But I hit preview and got five minutes where I'm like oh so Mark does know how to preview. I found out today. Yeah you're damn right. See more of the best to get you. Hey yo. Subscribe to that shit and watch it man. Subscribe bro. No. Subscribe to our shit nigga. No I'm not subscribing to your shit nigga. I didn't ask you to. No actually you may outside begging. You may fund a nigga. Please. You may fund a nigga. Not subscribing to me. And I did sub to your shit. With violence. Ice. Violence. I did sub to your shit when violence was going on. Like the color purple. And that's violence too. Actually. Not at all man. It was. You chose violence. And I'm. Now that was Mark knows violence. He chose violence. I didn't choose violence. Bramley night shows violence. No you chose violence. Why did he shoot back so you had to up the ante. So I gotta go grab your family. This was this. I know people will think that this was about pettiness or. No you doubled down. No no this was not about paying services. Oh sure. Your greed. I really wanted the money. No no. I'm kidding. After my. So Bramley night did what he did. I responded here and to me it was kind of over. Yeah. But I was given the opportunity to interview. To kick a horse right. Kick a horse. Well damn. I mean if somebody reaches out and says hey the family wants to be able to tell their side. I want to be able to give. He's a journalist. Yeah. As a journalist. I feel like it's important. Mark take that shit. Take that shit to the native. You gave a nigga one and it says yo. I've interviewed them multiple times. Don't make me start. This is probably why he asked that question earlier about 50 and he. Because of you. You did the math. Yeah. Yeah. This is the thing. The shit that I told you. The shit that I told you that I wouldn't say in public. I didn't say in public and I didn't let and they didn't say in public in the interview. There's so much shit that Bramley night has said and done according to them. Which one. Both. But the seniors the one that we really need to talk about. And they did an interview. It was an hour and a half. Great conversation. But for me the point was healing. I wanted to be able to create a space for them to share their pain. Mark. Hey Mark. We got a. No I'm serious. I'm serious. It's us. This people watching. And I was. But I'm gonna let them watch and you hear. Already know. They gotta get a good idea. I think we all see it. You're gonna be very surprised. It's a good healing interview. They were very happy with it at the end. I know you're a chiropractor. I know your doctor. I know your doctor. What's in healing. I know you're. I want people to be able to talk and grow and heal. And they did. And I think it was a good conversation. They broke down a lot of shit. They refuted some of the stuff he said in his interview. I was. Why didn't you put on YouTube. It'll be on YouTube. I like to give early. I like to give early access to my Patreon followers. Same. That's what I learned from you. So it will. You know I don't want to. Didn't say I want to say that because that makes people more likely to wait. I know they curse me out every time. But you might have. But early access. But I want everybody eventually to be able to see it. But for the foreseeable future. Yeah. They should go to Patreon. Support it. But what do you say to the people that say that. Like Brian McKnight senior said that he was open to come have a conversation and slash debate with you directly. We should. But that doesn't mean that his family doesn't have a right to have a platform and to be able to speak back to what they've already said. Because Brian can't do all the talking. Brian should be able to do as many interviews as he wants. But his family has a right to speak out. They've been quiet. And so BJ Brian Jr. Which one. The OG Jr. Got it. And Julie McKnight his ex-wife. They want to be able to speak back to some things that were being said about them. And they wanted a safe place to do it. One of the things they said was they respected my platform and my history of giving fair interviews. And so that's why they chose to allow me to do it. You got a broken nose. You got some of your nose. You good. You good. You good. Would you try to work a sit down. You do this thing with your nose. You talk a bullshit. You need to tissue. I dream a genie. Tuesdays are just as good as Fridays. Oh. What we saying. I don't know what that means. Break it down. Do it in reality. Tuesdays is just as good as Fridays. So you said Fridays is better. What you saying nigga. Yeah. Call. Call. Watch your fucking. You gotta do be a little bit happy on Fridays too. No that's not true. Yeah. I do be happy. But you say you are. No not me. We don't be happy on Fridays. I think both days is blue magic. Can we look happy on Fridays. That suck of niggas. Excuse me. Laugh. Fire. We laugh with you too. We do laugh with you too. We laugh when you funny. It's me against all you niggas. And watch your fucking mouth nigga. It's the best day nigga. You hear me. For sure. The way you started with that negro thing. I was like prior in his prime. We were all thinking it. Hey yo. Let's just listen. I used to. He had to do two different. I don't know. What they say about this working environment is true. We have two different styles of interviewing. Right. Like if I'm afraid of the person what I'll do is I'll go the opposite side so they won't sit down with me. Right. You know I used to do tricks like that. But then I realized that you have to go to the horse's mouth. If somebody calls me out I want to sit with them look them in the eye as a man. And I'm not going to use an excuse about safe spaces. You can get security. Safe spaces is subjective. I don't know if your place is safe for them. What it is it might have been a messy space. You know what I'm saying. No you should watch the interview. It wasn't. I will watch it. So but I did. I thought he was going to take Mr. McKnight up on his office. I had. I've reached out. And then the other nigga that shot at you you negated him. You know he started to post shit. He'll mark. I can't respond. I can't respond to everybody that has that's the angle you take. Mark Lema fucking here that jumped up to try to fight Queen's flip. You taking an angle of all things respond to everything. If he was there I'm on your side. He's called you Queens. He did. I was. I was. I was. I'm on your side. But I'm expecting you. Come on. You got you let that. Come on. What we doing? I respond to people. It will be a messy. I respond to people who have something with the big lens. If this I got set to my man. I said this other day I would debate homeboy too. I would engage homeboy too. Okay. But I'm not going to engage him about something stupid. Like telling me you think you're intellectual and you're not is to me like that academic equivalent of like you think you cute. Like okay I'm not debating that because that don't the stakes are too low. You know what I mean. And it's not about him or his platform. I respect his platform. I respect people who respect him. But we ain't got shit to talk about. And if we do have something to talk about then we can have a conversation. But Brian McKnight I absolutely would have to. I know what Brian McKnight is. I don't know Antoine but but Brian McKnight I know. And not personally I mean I know you know he spoke out so I respond to him and I mean he's welcome to come and sit down with me too. I would love to sit down with Brian McKnight. I reached out. Haven't heard back. Are you reached out. Some of the way he reached out to us here. Oh he reached out to the imagine. You said he was lying. No you hit the bar page. I'm just saying no. You said he was lying. I'm talking about what Mark said. Mark said he was lying. Then he said he reached out. And he said the same way he reached out to. Are you lying saying you ain't reached out to. I'm being tongue in cheek. But I reached out. If you're scared get a dog. I would just get a police officer to stand next to me. So would you be fair if you sat down with after hearing his family's footpeg. Brian McKnight ain't coming to sit down no damn more. I heard what he said. You gotta ignore that. Right. If you want to have a sit down I'd love to have a sit down with you. I'll come to where you are. I'll fly out to West Coast wherever Midwest wherever you can come this way. I'm happy to do an interview. I shoot direct parts. Respect that you bring them here. Listen a few things before this talk goes any further. You know Brian McKnight like six three six four. Yeah same size. Same size as the original son. I met him yesterday. Same size. I say yeah. I'm talking about Jesus. I'm talking about somebody from a killer army again. I told him he was back to sons of man. He pays a break. You edit this shit fast. The prodigal son. Yeah yesterday. I was in the studio yesterday they flew in we did the interview. Manny was there. Just in case. I don't know he's gonna be there. Drag another nigga down. Put another nigga in that mix. Just in case. Yeah. You can't say after what he did for your channel. He did that. Like he turned up my shit but I'm on his side and they hit nobody on his channel yet. He let go of a grave opportunity. What do you got to come back? We got to run that back. If I hit somebody on somebody channel and they should go up. Nigga you better come see me the next month. We run it back. It's all right. Anyways. Yeah. Jelder man we love you. I can't wait to watch the interview. Thank you. Thank you everybody. Thank you for watching it and if you haven't check it out on Patreon. We will. Yeah. That's you don't talk to people on the audience. See and this is why figuring out where everybody sits at a wedding is tricky. It can't be here. Because now Mark and Brian can't be at the same table. There's so many people that can't even be at the same table anymore. We'll be fine. But I didn't with me and Brian. I'll be good. We'll have a good conversation. I'm getting me some of it. Never felt this way. Yeah. He's looking for now. Come on. Come on. Still in love with you. They better stop playing man. I'm gonna be here with the lighter up man. I love that. I love his music. And it's 20 bills in July. Yeah. Violist turn red. Roses turn blue. That's the come on. Yeah. Come on man. That's the boy. N***a what? Hey look what we getting there. That's free. I was two-ish no boy. He done fucked up. Brian connect. Start singing this shit. I was two-ish. You done fucked up the connect. Fucked up the connect is crazy. I ain't fucking hung up yet. No, not yet. We good. Almost. Y'all seen game in the club saying free uh free Kells and free puff. That's what he said. Happy birthday to him. For real? Like that's real? I have to ask with everything now. Yeah. It was a birthday something. He ain't gotta ask me. I got the new phone. Yeah it's real. Why did you do that? It was I think he was I mean for what I was. I ain't been saying free puff every to everybody with ears. Some people feel like free puff and free cows. And he was what we going to be drinking at how no no. That's your business. That's what you that's how you feel. Say it go ahead and rap scream it to the I mean that's just you go ahead. It's definitely a choice. I just heard some very noble things. He was or semi noble things. He was saying on a podcast. So it seems to conflict with that but that's me. You got a relationship with puff. Yeah. So our Kelly one was one that surprised me more than the puff one. But I get I get people have a perspective right. One of those perspectives is even if they did everything that they accused of doing it's just too much jail time. And I don't think that he pardon me Mark. I don't think that he was just random. I think Bumping Grime was on. Yeah Bumping Grime was playing. Yeah and he was drunk and it was his birthday right. Oh yeah. It felt like a moment they got taken a little. I wouldn't read that much into it. I don't think he's on a campaign. I think he's caught him at a night when he was feeling it. It's filling in. Just how do I speak to something. I'm not defending it. I'm just saying I don't. That's another one of them. I want to see the author. I want to see the first person that came up with that one. What would the truck mind speak to something like that. Sometimes niggas is drunk. Yeah. Sometimes I don't. I don't. I don't. Too many drunk people. But no but then when niggas be drunk they don't be. Truth nigga. Yeah. They don't got enough. I don't see how you feel. Sometimes drunk people also just be sages. Yeah. Like a lot of times. I think that saying negates what parks is saying as an option. I just don't believe in that. I think sometimes niggas be drunk. I mean you ain't never drunk and said no shit you ain't mean. That's a safe. Yeah. Yeah. That's what you mean to say. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Oh. If you were sober you would have had enough. Yeah. To not judgment than I say. Sometimes I just be saying. Sometimes y'all need to be drunk. Do that after. Go after wake up like a Steph Curry tree. The warm of me. I get a couple reps in and just saying some shit. Bow. Bow. Look at your needing some Cisco to get this off. Oh you don't want to get it off. That's the point. Yeah. It's something you didn't want to get off. Can't even got an album coming out this week right. It was supposed to come out last week. Yeah I was looking for last week. Um it's a project with DJ Drama against the real job. I'm sorry. I'm sorry Parks. Because that is where we supposed to go. But give me a one-hand example of the drunk. Talking to it. How'd it come out. Drunk. My. Oh you're dancing and every time that you like. What. What. Like give me. Yeah. Give me the guy. The guy's just drunk. Coming in the house. I ain't never like. If I was your dad I would have left you too. I ain't never like your ass anyway. Yeah. I never like you nigga. I never like such don't like you. That's why they be talking about. Yeah. They start exposing mad shit. Yeah. That's why your girl fucking somebody else. Like this shit. All like oh well you knew that. Yeah. Let me drown. Man my marry did that. So there's that so there's no point. She just realized. Somebody real dad was. Wait what. One day my marry. Voluntary. Yeah. Drunk is Cuda Brown. She came. Y'all hold on. Tell me. Cuda Brown. That's back when they had to make their own liquor. Yeah. Cuda Brown. Shit. Moonshot. Who is his name? Cuda Brown. Cuda Brown. Y'all never had that expression drunk is Cuda Brown. No. No. No. No. No. No fucking Cuda Brown. Your family is. Oh. It's some Jim Cratchy. Yeah. I don't want to tell you how to start Cuda Brown. But. What did Aunt Mary say? Yo who's. The legend was that Cuda Brown was supposed to be fighting a war either for the union or Confederacy. So he got so pissy drunk that nobody so that need to decide what you. So they said drunk is Cuda Brown. They were saying that. Fuck no. Civil war. Try to educate us. But. I know. I don't get fucked. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. Because. You know. Because. I didn't even. We're there. You know. You know what he did. Civil war. Yo. Yo. Yo. My great grandparents were slaves. Yeah. We got civil war jokes in the family. But anyway. Oh man. Yeah. No. Aunt Mary did that. I think it's okay to say because she's got all timers now. She won't remember this. She came home to the house and she was drinking. Got drunk. She got a little argument with my cousin John and said to him. Yo. That ain't your dad anyway. And then John got mad. Was ready to kill her all this shit. And then she got more drunk and just started breaking down. Your real dad lived here. He was here. He was up there. He lived up the street. You know who. Anybody else in this family got curly hair nigga? Oh she said green eyes. Yeah. Because it was green eyes you're making do. Yeah. So I've seen that happen with a drunk mind. I think we never heard before. Yeah. That happened in black families too. Where you tell all your secrets to the nigga in the family that's going to get the drunkest. So there you go. And that's what they do when I'm married. Because she got drunk every week. Okay. But back to game and drama. Yep sir. Like Parks was saying. It's supposed to be putting out a project this Friday. I had the pleasure of reading the track list. Track 12 being the assassination of Candace Owens is irresponsible. Absolutely nuts to me. Other than that I look forward to the project. Well even that because I do want to hear what the fuck you talking about. Normally when you name a track that the person has been assassinated. No. You know she just put out some information that she got. Oh wait. Duh. I'm slow. She just put out. I'm slow. Candace has been saying that people are trying to assassinate her. Yeah. See and that's what I get for judging games. Twice. That is. That's all right. They ain't going to clip this part up. Yeah. They just going to get the first part. Oh no. The first hour. I haven't done enough. Anybody else. You'll have to leave it at my tombstone. They done clip this up. This is in Fort Dick's by now. Oh for sure. Are you kidding me. This is on that nigga got so nosy. Hell. There's an eagle just flying to his cell dropping some shit off. Yeah. Yeah. It's over. It's over. That nigga wanted to kill me when we signed that Spotify deal right after that revoked shit. No. He did not get it. He ain't get that at all. We announced the revoked state of the culture shit. Billboard's up and whatever nigga a week later Spotify was like hey the show button show. Boy that nigga wanted to kill me. Oh man. What did he say to you. Huh. You just heard. Yes. No. I said you see people. No. Did he summon me and him spoke a bunch of no. He called. He could have toyed his ass up. And it might have been my birthday that you. You blame me. It was my birthday. You blame me. You already know. You blame me. No. I don't blame me. We were taking that Spotify deal. No. He said hold on. Puff like look it wasn't me. I didn't know. Well no. If it wasn't my birthday I'd have been at the front of the call too but we was at Lolita's when it was Subor. They had to run out there boy and it was mad. Anyway. And you and you you buttoned it. Puff this is going to make the show more of that. You don't understand Puff. Listen buddy. Vision. He was explaining right. It's going to make the show more powerful because it's going to take my audience and bring them over to your audience. I said that. We know. We know. I know you nigga. Fuck you. Turn the right up out of there. Nigga turn the Gregory Ones quick. Wait let me ask you something. This is just funny now. Is it cop and a plea if it's true? Yeah. Can cop and a plea also be true? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah you got me done. You got me. How mad was he though? Like yellow man. He was mad. He was mad. Did he poke what he did? I think he was bored in the jet to get to here. No he was on his way. But I mean it made sense. But we are plea made sense and we believed it. It was true. And it probably turned out to be true. No for sure 100% it turned out to be true but he didn't. And Puff would have did the same thing in the same situation. See that speculative but we can say that. Yeah I mean it's good business. I'm just saying like ultimately I think people can get over shift. They know deep down it was the right move. Now I think if I give one of y'all a shit load of money and then put a billboard and the very next week y'all sign with the food network and they give you more money and put up more billboards. I'm gonna have a talk with one of y'all too. Phone gone red. Okay. Just a talk. Are you gonna do it? Or are you gonna ask is are you not? No the turkey bacon suicide. Now that just said that last night. I'm pretty. I would. Yeah don't say. Because you could have told me first. But then it would take away. But with that it just happened and landed around the same time. Just on retrospect you wish you would have had a conversation with him before he came to you. No it would not. What the hell no. What the hell you talking about. What the hell you talking about. I was about to finish. I wasn't. I wasn't. I wasn't. Y'all fucking lean in now. I had a wrong one. We was going to answer the live phone. No, nigga. Oh, man. What the fuck was Cory at that time? He said he didn't. Right. What were we talking about? Game and drama. Looking forward to that. Yes. Or mix-taper, whatever you call it. It's entirely produced by Mike and Keys. I know problems featured on it. Jason Martin, pardon. But yeah, I'm waiting for it. I thought it was coming out last week. They announced it was coming out last week. I made some phone calls to try to get it. And on Wednesday, I knew it wasn't coming out Friday. Got you. And now it's this Friday. So you didn't get it? Nope. You're going to try to get tomorrow? Your phone calls fell. No, no, no. It wasn't violence. Violence. Not violence. Violence, flowers. Did they answer? Yes. You just didn't get it. It wasn't done. You're trying to play me, but I can't let you. So you get it when we get it. They sent him the iTunes link. Actually, we got to get this. You ain't trying to call to get it. I do, nigga. I'm going to call to get some fucking music. I can only give me that shit. Hey, I'm so funny. What you saying is true. So what? So what? All right. So now I really want to hear to your sass needs mechanics. I want to hear this whole project because game don't miss on a project. Game don't never miss. I love it. They sent it for years. One of the best overall discographies out there, in my opinion. You know what I'm looking forward to? Is he an A-list rapper to freeze to you? Yes. You mean like Top Tier? Yes. In terms of rapping? Is it celebrity? No. Or brand? No. Rap and ability? Yes. A thousand percent. It's not a room in the world where people are rapping and he won't be elite. And we'll keep up, if not out-wrap. It might be some dudes nicer, maybe, but he belong in any room that elite rapping is happening. That's the fact. Thanks. Shout out to the game. And he does that chameleon. He could rhyme like anybody in the world. If you super dope, it's best to shut up around him. Leave him alone. When you get on your track and like sound like that. Take it real style. Yeah. Game is one of them. That was a rough couple of weeks when me and him had to go back and forth. It was. That is all I could say. I'm going to fuck the spade game up. 8,000 bars. Y'all too long. When did that? And they they'll go right back in. Quiet is kept. I thought I could rap better than everybody, but I was hanging my hat on stamina and just ability to go. And then you bump into another nigga with stamina pause. Same shit. And got the same amount of energy and time on his hands and love this shit. Oh yeah. 90 bars back to here. 901. You weren't supposed to do that. You were supposed to do it 16. I was supposed to say, oh, you can't keep up. You're supposed to wait a little bit. All right. So now you do 900. I'm going to go give you 900 the next day. Now you're going to go give me 900 an hour later. It's like at some point if you got a life, one of you will stop. Speaking of bars, y'all ready for this Cassidy versus Easy Joint? I'm a Philadelphia. So no, no. I'll answer no. I'm going to go give you a square intro and some of this shit. Shut up, Mark. No, speaking of bars, y'all ready for this Cassidy versus Easy Joint? I'm going to tell you, Mark, the best part of Cassidy battles is the face-off and everything leading up to the battle. I don't need to watch the battle. He's great up until the battle starts. He was cooking on Instagram. All of that up until the battle starts and he starts rapping. Then I check out. Cassidy is absolutely destroying. Not that I would have put this right here at this block. We're in here though. Cassidy is absolutely destroying Easy to Block Captain in the pre-battle battle. Cassidy, you can't fuck with him in none of this. He is the absolute king of the pre-battle battle. All of that from the face-off, everything. From anything. Before the battle. If he decides to tweet, if he decides to put a reel at anything he decides to do before a battle is Richard Pryor like. Yeah. Dog. I follow him on Instagram. Me too. He been putting on such a clinic. I said, alright. I can't miss none of this. I can't. Dog, they done found Easy to Block Captain's... Is this your book picture? Shit, that's the least of it. But yeah, it's your book picture. They found his best friend. Did an interview there. I guess he's from Potsville. Dog Captain's not from Philadelphia. They done found old battles where he admit he not from Philadelphia. I've learned way too much about some picture where he's fucking got the slits in his beard looking all fucking crazy. Cassidy is... He's killing him. Now, when the battle gets here... He's gonna pay for some of this stuff. Before a lot of it. Because this nigga can rap still. He gonna pay for some of this stuff at battle time. I was supposed to meet up with fucking Lux and Mook last night. I went right to sleep with him, nigga. Right to bed. 8 o'clock, me and 8 o'clock, nigga. Sorry, I'm 45. I knew you was lying last week when you showed me you were so sick. I'm 45 years old. If I say 8 o'clock, it means 8 o'clock. But we're gonna try to get in the night and get with them. Let me get with them, see what's going on with those cans. So Cassidy got no chance of winning this battle though? Not to me. He got a chance. Yeah, if Easy Choke... If he ever had a... If it was ever somebody with a bunch of shit to work with, you got a lot to work with, and Cassidy's funny. Well, let me start with... Let me start with Cassidy can rap. He can. He can. Yes. Like, I feel like I'm doing him a disservice, but Cassidy can rap. Can he battle rap? That to decide, maybe not. But I mean, his record would indicate otherwise. I think it's just... What's his record? I got him above 500 or at 500. Oh, because he's 6... What do you say, 6? No, stop, stop. I thought that's what you was talking about. Let's not get crazy. Let's not get crazy. When is this battle? I think it's just outdated. Yes, that was very outdated. Cassidy is hilarious. He still can rap, and I think he's great. He beat a murder charge in hip-hop. That's all you need. Is to be funny and had beaten a murder. Couple of hit records all hurt. Yeah. He got more in a couple. Nah, I do mean something. Yes, I do. Yes, I do. Is never a world... Yes, yes, it do. Yes, it do. What would it mean? It means that I have a million more angles to sun you and make you look like you just inexperienced, never made, never succeeded. And then I can say all of that and say you're standing right here talking to me. So what's all your hit records brought you right here? When you beat these live joints, does the crowd... Is the crowd going to give you more favor and grace because you're a star outside of the battle? Seeing the boys as the opposite. Not in this case? Not in this case. Sometimes it depends on who... If you want a card and maybe somebody home-filled a venture or might not know this person that much, then yeah. In this case, that ain't gonna... You started talking about some platinum albums and you got on some old Timberlands. I am going to roof you. Okay, but if I start talking about platinum albums and I have new Timberlands on, then what? What you drove here? I'm gonna find an ankle nigga. I'm just giving it an example. Y'all are correct. They'll always be over. But I'm on the side of the guy that has hit records and can rap as being able to come up with more angles. If you was a fan of me growing up, if I was on TV while you was... Where was you when I was like, it's too much? Cool. It's just too much shit. Hold on, hold on. You had hit records 20 years ago and you've had... Five battles in that timeframe. Give or take. Six, whatever. And I've been at a hot clip for a minute. That shit ain't gonna help you. You want your stage to be... None of that's gonna help you. I think any angle you can think of can be helpful to you. Yeah, true. It's a ping pong. No, no, no. You're right. You're right with that. But you gotta come better than that when you standin' across a killer. You standin' across from a killer. Easy still a killer. All right, he is. But the killer has given Cassidy an address, his work schedule, where his girl is. He's given him a lot, at all. For sure. For sure. Now, we'll see. I still think that easy is one of them. So come battle time, this may look a little different. I've seen this. I've seen Cassidy be amazing. Like I say, face-off, everything lead up to the battle. And then once he gets on that stage, it's Cassidy from 2003 rapping. And that ain't gonna work. And this has happened time after time after time after time. So yeah, all of this other shit is great. You winning right now, when y'all standin' across from each other on stage, if you bring 2003 nigga up here again like you've been doing, pack him up. I also think, right, and I'm with some of what you're saying, like it depends on what happens night of the fight, and I won't hold y'all too long with all this shit. But normally with hit records comes different experience too though. Like, so there could be a situation where, I'm not saying this happened, but where the lights may be too bright. If Cassidy starts saying, this might be your biggest battle ever, if he's just start getting in the certain shit because he's more, I think it's Keep Sweat Bobby Brown. I always say that. I think it's Keep Sweat Bobby Brown. The kid who's been rapping and on the tear, but you're not like that. You're not like that. Cassidy just doing his version of Not Like Us with Easy. That's all he'd been doing for the pre-battle. Yo, you're not like us. You're from Pottsville. You went to Pottsville High. Stop it, yo. When we were doing this, when I was beating my murder case, you were eating peanut butter and jet, just in the pre-battle chain. It sounds fly. It does, it sounds fly. I ain't gonna lie to you. I'm not saying it'll work. Until you're not like us, Point, when Not Like Us the song came out, it was still good. So I say all that is, Cassidy, you can do all that. You still have to get on that stage and perform, bro. Got it. And nothing has shown me that he, that's what he does. Yeah, you haven't. We got it. I ain't know how we did it. We done. We done, we done. Mark brought it up. That nigga's about to beat shit down. Mark brought it up and shut up. Yeah, you getting old. I'm learning. I can listen. Speaking of bars, you guys. There's a pretty hot battle coming up. Taking away. Throw that and walk away. Yeah. Come on. Let's get to it. And then we'll intro the topic that we need in the intro. Frank Sinatra. Oh, shit. We can do that too. I'll be waiting. Speaking of knobs. So apparently Frank Sinatra. I love that this is your, your journalism. Expertise. No, no, no. The funniest shit is what is written on the board. Frank Sinatra holding. That's crazy. That's crazy. Brother Mark. Yeah, Mark. He was excited to talk about this shit. Now of course, speaking of bars. They're rods. Wow. Crazy guy. Wait to tell us. So the news hit yesterday. No, it did. No, it did. Oh, it hit. The news hit. Fuck out of here. Okay. Anyway, Joe, you brought this topic up this morning. You said, except you want us to talk about, so I'm just trying to get through the intro. It's literally the first thing on the board, Joe. Yo, we caught. Not a ganna stand, not trust. Not a ditty doc. But why you couldn't just drag parks who they had to talk? I didn't have no Frank Sinatra got a new shit talk. He wearing white and yellow. Oh, because he been jabbing for the last five minutes. I got a. All right, fine. I'll take it. Whoa. Not in the dick conversation. Not in the dick conversation. Submitted man fast too. Like, oh, I'll take it. What a bitch. Anyway, Paul, if y'all know Paul Anker, what are the, you know, really important singer and song writers of the 20th century who wrote my way, by the way, for Frank Sinatra. Pausher. No. That would be funny. You got a pistol by his singles. Yeah. And so. What's my way? I did my way. That's all. That was Elvis. Elvis did the version of the hell. You know a lot of this. Yo, why? I had a station. Because I know. I know. So Paul, I'm not sure why, but Paul, I could did an interview. I had a conversation where he confirmed that Frank Sinatra has a very large penis. I have a quote. What? I had trouble with eye contact. I said before noting that Sinatra had nothing on Milton Burl. Yes. Apparently his second wife, Eva Gardner previously described her husband as having a 19 pound penis. Yes. She says 110 pounds. Wait, Frank or Milton? Milton. That sound like the name. No, no, no. Milton Burl. No, no, no. You're talking shit. Hey, Milton Burl is laying shit down. I ain't gonna lie. 19 pounds of cock. I'm so little old ass Milton Burl. You're not as hilarious. So apparently they used to hang out in the sauna. This is how it happened. And in the sauna. Got me looking at these E and the Mark shows a little different. But nobody was showing in that show. Regular poundage. Bad sauna scenes. Didn't see a thing. He was giving Tony Bennett not a... Oh shit. ...Money Bennett. Money Bennett. So they went to sauna and I guess back then they would notice each other's size. And Frank Sinatra already had a huge rep... What was he on? He had a reputation, a very well known reputation in Hollywood for having a large penis among the women, including his ex-wife. And then Milton Burl was another one of those people. And so for some reason yesterday, Paul Anka, who has a doc coming out soon, called my way. Oh, I thought it was about the dicks. That's a different doc. One of the people to know, he confirmed it. He confirmed it. I'm not sure why it's such big news to people. My question to y'all, because I don't know. I'm not a sauna expert. And I know what they be saying out there about you sauna. You sauna. You sauna bros. Shout out to either. But I'll ask y'all, are you supposed to have a hard dick in the sauna? No. That's what I was... I don't think it was hard. If it's 19 pounds... That was a wife saying that. If it's 19 pounds flat, you got a problem. But I think in the sauna they would just say... And it's soft as 14. Just on the sleep. Just, yeah. Like on the shrivel. In the sauna, they saying Frank was still holding. No, nigga. One of them niggas coming to the sauna, I'm out. I'm not supposed to take it out again. Why would I sit there? That's what Paul was saying. That's why he couldn't have eye contact with Frank. He said after he saw that, he was intimidated. Oh, man. Shit that make the news... Alright, so let me ask y'all a question. The niggas do be intimidated. I'm getting the fuck out of there. Are you kidding me? So... Oh, shit. This is safe space, right? No. Put it fine. Go ahead, ask anyway. Why would I be in the... Do y'all... Y'all be in gyms in saunas? Have you ever... No, no, no, no, gyms. I'd be in the gym. I bet it's on us too. I've never encountered a 19 pound penis. But y'all see penises, right? When you go to a black room... No, no, no. I've never been on a team sport and accidentally inadvertently... No. What is it? Don't you... Don't you mute up after the conversation with the old spot. These cool niggas here... Keep going. And he got the nerve to be making a face. So if you could speak to the side... And you was on the basketball team, right? When you was four-legged and some shit? I was just listening to y'all live. But go ahead. What about if you speak the truth? Speak truth to power. I was waiting for him to speak. Speak truth to penis. It's just sort of like what the dancers know is moot. But I was just gonna say, like, y'all seen them. Have y'all ever seen something to make you be like, Oh, shit. It's like intensity. No. Oh, shit. You gonna say, oh, shit. You gonna say, oh, salute. All right, nigga. That's what you say. What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? Listen. Listen. What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? Listen. I don't do all that. But, let's say, I know what he's talking about. Get this JR. Oh, shit. She just saying, oh, my son gay? No. Oh, he talking about JR. No, no, he's the gay man. He's the camera cam. Watch your fucking mouth. Don't punch me. Yo. Yeah, but I say salute, nigga. Oh, shit. Why would you say that? You pointed out to him. No, listen. Oh, shit. Listen, let me pray the seed for you. Fuck it. He be saluting the mid too. Bring me foundation. Bring me foundation. The back yard boogie dick. The back yard ho shit. Listen, let's say, paint the scene. No. You know what I'm saying? No. No, no. Let her please. Who's painting the scene? Listen, if one of you niggas, listen, listen. A lot of times growing up, niggas would put work in group settings. Right? Ah. You know what I'm talking about? Okay. One of the niggas may be holding more than others. So when you go out the room, well, niggas put that work in salute. You know what I'm saying? That's not gay. Y'all don't wash your hands first? You salute your man. Yeah. You took it up out of town. What up? But this is the, but you're just... Yeah, I want to stay on this topic too for a while. Wait, wait, wait. We got this. So you, what are you saluting them for? I apologize. It's all right. Sorry. What are you saluting them for? Just to be clear. He put it work. He put it work. Like the quality of the shirts. Because he holds it? No. Everybody not intimidated like you, bro. This is what I'm saying. So you're the man who's taking the drugs with dudes. You're the man who's taking the drugs with dudes. No. You never ran a train in a girl? No. Oh, you was in a car. I forgot. Not my fault I take that back. No, I just had sexual women. Oh, even at a young age. If I'm in a car, I'm doing a train. Especially when that car... I'm speaking for me. Whole business. If I'm in a car... Hey, wait. A train is going in. You might have been in a car. No. I'm not disrespecting the women out there. And let me just be clear. Your mind, your mind. No disrespect. Trains means different things in different places. You mean a consensual group sex. Yes. No, no. I'm saying that to the audience and all the guys out later. I'm just saying it. Trains mean different things in different areas. That's what I'm trying to say. And what Flip is explaining to y'all is that he was in the middle of it. You're trying to say niggas... Yo, yo, yo. Yo, you said niggas were your caboose. No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm not saying what takes... No, don't hit me, please. I'm not saying that. Chewchoo! Yo. Yo, two hour iskies got train noises. Yo, it's the shit. No, I'm not saying that. It's silly. Yo, niggas be a disrespect. I didn't say nothing, bro. I never... I'm saying normally in a consensual train... I hate society that you have to say a consensual train. You have to mouth. But in the consensual train, I was either very first or... very last. You said I was in the middle of it. Watch your fucking show. Middle is better than last of the train. There was never a time where I was coming in the consensual train. You was picking this shit up. You was dead last. You didn't clean up man. He kissed him. And he kissed him. Oh, damn. What the... Damn. Damn, girl. What he did to you? He... He make... Niggas make a love touch shit like that. I didn't do that. I didn't do that. I didn't do that. I didn't do that. I didn't do that. I didn't do that. I didn't do that. I didn't do that. I didn't do that. Look at him. I ain't going to treat you like this. What he did? Tell me your story. I'm going to show you better now for two hours. Get the fuck out. You better now for two hours. I'm holding her. I'm going to show you. This is funny. The truth is way funny. Yeah. And what's truth? If I'm last in the train, I was talking... I was talking to them. It was never sex. Oh shit. I wouldn't do it. You did an interview? I was like, how was it? I wanted you to know you better. Which one was your favorite? What was the angle? I was like, what was the angle in that? Was there any Frank Sinatra's in the room or? They had to. Yo, are you OK? Are you good? They were trauma bonding. You really down with this shit. After one of them shit, I learned quickly that that life wasn't real. After one of them shit, I stepped up my neck. It's like, yo, why are we doing it? Why are y'all doing it? You're pressing niggas in the middle of the track. And then shortly after that, listen, I was, when this was going on, 14, everybody's older. I was about 16. They picking the girl up from high school at lunchtime. Like, I'm 14. But very shortly after that, no one I realized. One I was. I could just bag who I want and fuck them. And we no longer needed to go half, get in the Chevy, get in the group on the pussy. Got five on it. Yeah, yeah, we didn't need to do that no more. I would go to the same schools, hey, niggas in, and just do my home. One, two, you niggas are fucking freaks. Not as freak boys. But, Flip, just before we leave. Yeah, Mark ain't let this shit go. No, no, but you say in the middle of all of that, if you saw somebody who was well endowed, you would shout them out. Not in the middle. When everything is done. Not the middle. Oh, it's all done. After that. I'm not accepting that. By the way. Hey, y'all, listen. Hey, you saw you. Earlier, yo, I saw you, though. I didn't know you had all that. How you walk with that, yo? No, look at y'all. Look at y'all. Look, look, look, look. How you hold all that, right? Look at y'all. That niggas is whispering. Look at y'all. I didn't credit what credit is due, man. You think credit was due, though? That's my head. And you put that word in salute. Yeah. I didn't about just shape, say that you was walking in, like, on some bone crutch attention. Like, you... Hey, yo, listen. You're cleaning these wood floor. They saying, was that nigga in the train, like the bad person in the song, boy? Oh, man. Easy. Oh, my God, yo. I didn't even notice about... Was Frank Sinatra bisexual? No. No, nigga, I told you. We gotta ask Quincy. I will say, I will say. Quincy never, you know, he never just mentioned it. Oh, no, but he worked with it, so he might not... A lot of people would say, oh, God, Quincy. The last few years, Quincy was everything. Give it up, yeah. Literally. And, but no, I've read all his biographies. No one has ever suggested that. That was a shady, literally. I don't want that literally to go on. I appreciate it. You're shady. Game-wrecking-ass game. Right. But... Shady, messy. All the same. He's all the things. That's what they're doing. They catch it later. And none of his little educator friends seem to know it. They don't see that side. Take that, Angela. No, it's real friends, though, in the house. In the house, they knew what Tommy was on. Yeah. But no, Frank is just, is all based on the sauna. It's all based on the kind of stuff we talk about. What we do is just hanging around, you know, homosocial space, which all of us, you know, hanging out, kicking it. And sometimes you just notice things. If my dick was like that, I would be in the sauna, too. Yeah, let the thing hang. I would. Just awesome show-offs. Just look around. Yeah. Hell, it's real hot here today, fellas. Yo, Richard Price said, nigga, nigga, what the big meat is coming to you? Or are the weebies standing back here? No, we niggas be in the urn like this. Niggas said, nigga, come in like, you're party, dawg. I'll make boom, watch it to the left. That's crazy, yo. You would be in the sauna showing off. Big dick nigga just gonna make me not talk to her no more. You can have it. It's cool. It's like you putting a bat inside of you, bitch. Oh, that's what you want? Yeah, I'm cool. Yeah, you a Martian. You a alien. That's the type of shit you, fuck you. Yeah, TLC said it, stick to the rivers and the lakes. That's a used to. Streams in this case, maybe. I'm punk, I'm skinny dippin' nigga. I want it all. That's back when we used to dream. I mean, skinny dippin' and shit, huh? What? Skinny dippin' for? You think I wouldn't go behind another nigga? No, nobody thinks that about you. Nobody. It's not what you think. It's not one person that said, this ain't going behind his man. What? That's your, yo, I'm realizing a lot about you. So, it was an era where you would just fuck behind your man. Fuckin' behind Milton Burroughs while. Yo, that's good. I'm at you, bitch. It's not, it's old. No, that's not. Meaning like yo, that's not what we're saying. He said, yo, if a nigga got a big dick, you wouldn't fuck behind him. And I said, yo, you fuck that guy doing me. Because you got a big one yourself. I'm not going to fuck behind a nigga. Make this happen. All right. So, man, like, what a turn into the meat and spank. Jesus Christ. I'll pick you up, nigga. Fuck these niggas. I'll pick my son up. What you picking him up for? We know what he picks people up for. I just salute my man. All right. I tell you, some of the wrong pair of A-Lo bottoms show your shit on. Extreme nap time. Yo, you ain't sleeping a lot. Sleep, sleep, sleep. What's up? Niggas is fucking around with these A-Lo outfits. On Thanksgiving, I had two 18-year-olds and Kino coming in with that cordy-zip A-Lo shit. I'm just selling you A-Lo niggas, some of the bottoms. Hey, bro, you was what? You're a rock slash. He's cock-watching. Yeah, we can talk about. Where did you all get that from? How you know it's not having A-Lo bottom at your shit? Quarter-zip and a matcha is the thing out there. I know you don't have that talk. No, no, no, no, no. You said A-Lo bottoms. Show your shit. Some of them. You said your shit be on sleep. All right, you guys got it, man. You'll take the gay stuff too far sometimes. No, but you gotta hear what you said. Put a rewound, whatever that's saying. I get where the confusion happened, but the joke was on you, so I just let it rock. Man, on Thanksgiving, that's what you're doing? Like, that make it sick. You're the one who said it. You're the one who said it. You're going to turkey leg. I said it because sometimes I grabbed the wrong A-Lo bottoms, going to work out in this Marisol in the gym. Oh, shit. And they complain. You know what? You know what? Megastalion has won her case versus... Oh, God. He's such a bitch. We did it. We did it. Megastalion has won, kind of won her case, against Malagro for defamation and a few other things. I got all this shit in my phone. I ain't pulling it up. You do it, Mark. She wants 75K? I think it's 59. Yeah, 59, that's right. The judge hasn't decided, hasn't said the actual number yet. But the federal jury sided with her and agreed that a blogger defamed and harassed her. Jurors initially awarded Megan 75,000, which district judge indicated could change in her final written judgment. So we don't know what the final number is going to be. Yeah, we don't know the final number. But there were a couple questions on the trial, one of which was whether Malagro counted as a journalist. Right. Because that was part of the debate. You know, like who... What's the duty of the person doing the talking? But ultimately, they ruled in Megan's favor. I think Megan wanted a lot more money than that. And I don't know how I feel about the amount. That's not really my thing. But she clearly was defamed. They said that she was being used as a proxy. Megan alleged that she was being used as a proxy. We don't know if she was defamed yet. Megan Cunliffe, the court reporter, says that the judge is still waiting to determine if the judge sees it as the jury did. The jury said, Malagro is media. And we have to see what the judge thinks. Malagro's attorney put out a statement that said the judge agreed that she is media so the defamation case would be dropped. That's all they're waiting on for the defamation part of it. It's the revenge porn thing that's going to be... Or whatever they call it, right? That's going to be the bigger issue. None of it was a big issue. I just don't think that you could put out porn of someone else, whether it's AI or not, and use media personality as a... Yeah, because it says here, jury has found Malagro liable for defaming Megan Cunliffe intentionally inflicting emotional distress by coordinating with Tory Lane's and for promoting the Deep Fake video. Yeah. So, yeah, they found it liable for that. But again, it's still waiting for the judge. It's final. Yeah, but that's about the sentencing. That's about the judge, the award. Yeah, but I mean, I'm glad. I think it says a good precedent. Take Tory Lane's stuff off the table. Take Megan Cunliffe's stuff off the table for a minute. Just in terms of journalists defaming public figures, putting out revenge porn about people, whether it's AI or not. That's the person that we don't want to say whether we like the person or don't like the person, agree with them or don't agree with them. And I happen to support Megan Cunliffe and I support her this entire time. But even if I didn't, I would be saying this. If someone did a Tory, I'd say the same thing. Yeah, I agree 100% with that. Now, she spent a lot of money to get that $75,000. That's true. So at some point you got to ask yourself, should I pay a lot of fees too, right? Yeah, but is she going to have it? Yeah, so this is where it gets interesting. So some people are in about getting... Yeah, again, I'm sending a message. If you got it like that, great. I'm all about going for the principal and spending the money to do it if I have it. But if you don't, I don't know Megan's pockets. I don't know Megan's pockets. I don't know Megan's pockets. I think she's aligned with the right people that got it. Okay. Now, they'll spend it to get to... Oh, then it didn't... You think the Cardi case was the motivation? Like, just... I think that... Oh, Natasha? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, yo, these people wake up every single day and see people saying just the worst shit that they could possibly say. It's like, yo, enough is enough. Because Cardi got awarded for a meal, right? Yes. So I'm assuming that Meg thought she would've probably got... You know what I mean? In the ballpark? Well, she was asking for $30 million. Meg. So if they would've settled that three or four, it would've been a high moment at that point. I don't think she thought she was going to get $70,000. Yeah, no. It's not worth the financial. But again, you're setting the precedent. Yeah, I agree. I'm not even saying I'm a logger. Just in general, some of these people cross a line. It'd be personal with some of these attacks on celebrities. And sometimes they cross a line. And folks want to... You can't do that. So now you got to be punished for it. And I think that that needs to be... I'm with the president being set. Me too. Like, yeah, you can dislike me all you want. But once you cross a line, like in the Cardi instance, you're discussing medical diagnosis and shit. Like, you've crossed a line. Same thing with Meg. You're promoting deep fake porn videos. You've crossed a line. But one of the points of contention were if I'm media and I have crossed a line, then before you foul, you have to send me a cease and desist, which you did not. Right. That is one of the points that they want. I agree. I'm just saying if the line is crossed though, there are things you're supposed... I'm with it. As protocol or procedure, you're supposed to send me a cease and desist and give me the opportunity to take it down. And they didn't do it. Yeah, if I'm media, which is why they're waiting to see if she's media. How the hell is that? I think it's a win for Milagro. I mean, I'm not going to get into it because the clippers are just waiting to clip me up, talking about some magic shit, and I'm over it. But I don't see how it's not a win for Milagro. Well, that was going to be my question. Do you run the risk of amplifying somebody's voice and expanding their platform by putting it on the platform by doing this? I don't know how big Milagro's was before this, but I can't imagine she's much bigger and if she only had to pay $75,000. Well, let's not do that because she will be liable for the attorney fees and that's where they're going to bang her at. Fair enough. But even that's payable. It's payable when you have an audience and Milagro does. She has an audience, she's good at what she does. I think this is a learning lesson for her because I was one of the first people to say it's not the Wild Wild West. I'm not saying that she's doing anything out of you. If we are media, we got to be held to a certain standard. Milagro has a huge audience, she's really talented and I don't see how any of this hurts her. Like, I went, how? Let's say the attorney fees are half a mil. Everybody's just sitting on 700, 600,000 liquid. I'm not saying she is, but she's already raised money in support of what she's doing. She has an audience to where as that's not such a daunting day. And if you add half a million, and if my audience goes up, if my audience goes increases from this, then I don't see it. In that sense. And that's what I'm saying. And you were asking me for 30 million. How do you not walk out of there high-fiving your attorney? Nah, I get it based on what you were facing, but it's like somebody saying, I'm still five. Five is five. Yeah, but she got parole, I think is the point. Yeah. And in your example. I guess that's contingent point. How much money she got? Because 600,000, let's say, I know Meg ain't got the cheap attorneys. No. And then the attorneys on purpose will probably bump up the billing hours on purpose to stick it to you some more. And so I just think if your platform expands where I think hers will from this, it's probably still worth it. And I'm not saying you should do it again. I think what she did was awful. But if your calculus is how can I get more famous and more wealthy, this probably still worked out for her. And it's don't always go this way. So like you said, it's just worked out for her. Because you could have got banged for that 30. Now it's totally different. Totally different conversation. Melangril is online painting herself to be the new modern day fucking modern fucking savior. And I fought the war for all of us and we are changing the media landscape and the rules. I mean, both sides are doing their own twist. I think Melangril is just a lot more believable plot twist to Joe Button's saying that. They got all types of Joe Button Meg hits on me going around. Yeah, I saw some nasty shit. I'm not gonna go out and stand with this lady. I don't think I need to keep saying nothing. And that's perfectly fine. Yeah. I'm on this side of that. People are like he's not allowed to do that. Whatever. That's a quick trial. It's quick. They got to it. You gotta appreciate a quick trial. You have to. A week? Week and a half? Yeah, something like that. Nice and fast. I'm done talking about that. I'm done. Anyway, move on. What else we got? This Russell Wilson Thanksgiving story is interesting to me. I didn't know a lot about the dude that was talking about him. Did y'all hear this story? No, not at all. A former NFL player. Which is weird for me. What the fuck are we doing here? Exactly. Trayvon Boykin talked about when he was a teammate of Russell Wilson and he went to his house. And he said, I went to Russell Wilson's house for Thanksgiving. The weirdest feeling. He catered. I come from a traditional country as Black family doing that. If I got as much money as Russell Wilson, my whole family would talk about me so bad if I didn't fly everybody out there for Thanksgiving. And I'm sponsored by Airline. Maybe he's just not close to his family. Maybe he's not, but his mama wasn't there. His sisters wasn't there. Even though it's still weird to me. He said, I'm still, even if you don't fool with your family, my family is going to do the food. If you don't want the money, we come into your house. He spent a lot of time talking about how weird the Thanksgiving set up was at Russell Wilson's house. Do we know who he sat with to say this? Do we know what interview this was? It wasn't clear to me, but I didn't see that either. His name just went flying around. It was a podcast though. That's the problem in America. Podcast? That's the problem. See, all right. Anyway, what do you think about this? I think it's corny. It's corny and whack to take some of his invitation to Thanksgiving. Go over there and then talk shit about what you saw when you're done. Let's do some real wild shit happen. I'm not talking, I just think it's a bad guess. If you're not being raised well to me. It's not a sign of good manners. You talking shit talking about the niggas food was catered. I'm used to cooking. I mean, the nigga could have been looking you out while you ain't go with your family and get some home cooking there. That's what you want. Go there. You ain't have to come over here. Or he up and got catered food. No, I'm with that. I'm talking about the nigga that's hanging on. I know. I'm talking about Russell Wilson had catered food. Who are you to shit on that? It's in the middle of football season. In the middle of football season, my wife is up and we got kids and she might not have had the opportunity to cook a house full of food. And there's a million reasons why my family might not have flown to wherever city we happened to be in. Well, somebody allegedly you can't tell the internet this days but it was saying that his sister played college sports and had a game and the family was there at the game. So that's why she wasn't there at the house. Right. So what? I don't give a fuck if they were just at home watching the parade. The thing about this story to me was less about the people talking about Russell Wilson and the people talking about Russell Wilson and the people talking about Russell Wilson and the dude is, he don't fit that. Because the prototype of what just that type of dude the clean cut the God fearing the take care of my family everything like and again a lot of people love future they love to compare it to all that bullshit the name, the name, the name he's the exact opposite of what niggas think is cool. Yeah, a lot of the guys that be super like religious square, for lack of a better term get flack in the football world. Mmm. Unfairly, probably. And they're like, once you tag lame, the game is follow the leader. So he's been tag lame. So now it's just cool to call that, call Russell Wilson that. What you smiling at, Joe? Smiling at Joe? You know how you miss all trains. You know. Man, I got a sauna. Yaaah. Oh, man. That's good. They all green eyes. Look at all green eyes. So I'm spreading the news. Let me see. No, what else am I about to say? My question for the room. So y'all don't think that Russell Wilson has been just a dick at any point. Oh, he might be. That's possible. That's entirely possible. Because all this bullshit part of shit, y'all. Oh, he's so cool and he represents everything that people. Okay. All of that school. But you could also. I don't know because my first time hearing about people hating him came from the fucking Legion of Legion of boom where they cited very valid reasons why they hated him. So if it's coming from like football players, but they know him. I'm talking about his niggas that ain't never seen met Russell Wilson. Nothing on anything about him who got a lot to say about him. So we talking about like the internet people or strangers or people that don't matter talking about Russell Wilson and why do we think that is? Okay, then y'all are right. Or even maybe football players didn't play with him. I mean, some people just don't like him. You know what I mean? He seems to inspire a certain kind of hate that I don't quite get. If I was a Denver fan, I would hate him. Like I could keep thinking of instances where those people can hate him. I think it's legit reason. If you're a Bronco fan, you should hate Russell Wilson. What's the word that for? The Broncos. Well, yeah, losing works out. Yeah. Losing works out. You hear that Steelers? It's okay. Fucking assholes. My bad. Go ahead. I'm sure there's plenty of good reasons to not like him. Just like there's plenty of good reasons not to like any of us. You know what I mean? And I've heard teammates say things like he had, you know, he kept himself distant from teams, separate from team, made his own. I heard all the things that made people not fuck with him. But like you said, a lot of the hate I see ain't about that. Yeah, it's not that, bro. It's not that. But why did this topic hit so close to home for you? That's what I'm saying. What the fuck? Yeah, what the hell? I don't understand that topic. It seemed like, no, right? It's weird until you figure out why Mark could be bringing this up. I'm like, where am I going with this, man? If you really think about why he could be bringing this up. Yeah. I just like... This one really hit his heart. I like to know your opinions about these things. What was that? Like tell us. There's nothing to share. I'm good. No, you don't think it's looking Mark like the fucking square, corny guy who never got no pictures. He ain't corny. He's square, but he's not corny. He's square, but he's not corny. I could be all those things. And he could change. He could turn the square off. He could become a fucking... Yeah, I don't think Mark is nothing. He got your food. No, he got a lot of food. He got anybody's food. He do. It's a trick. He had me boo. Shit. I was like, oh, this nigga's a nigga. Yeah, but Dark ain't never got no pussy. He was always Mark. Dark ain't never leave with the darkness. How'd it get you? Yeah, he... He had to take his shit. No, he ain't got shit. He figured out... Mark, can you relate to Russell Wilson and this? Have people looked at you and just automatically assume that you were corny and didn't deserve to get pussy and yada, yada, yada? Um, I don't know about the second part. No, because by the time I was... Moving and shaking. Somebody... Yeah, people... By the time people knew who I was, I was already a different part of my life. They made a body already by then. You laid enough for a down. Hey, audience, what he's saying is... Yeah, let me be... By then, I laid enough... I'm knocking up bowling pins down to be invited to the league. It wasn't what I was saying. There's nothing more, huh? What I will say is people... Steve, right? Talk about a speakin' engagement in Miami. I know. Yeah, we know. I gotta ask him more, bro. No, I don't know. I don't know. I don't... Share space like that. But what I was saying is I think that, uh... If you stand for something in public, people who don't stand for something are always looking for excuses to say, or to undermine it. I'm not gonna quite put Russell Wilson on the fucking freedom fighter list. No, no, no, for him it's his faith. It's like the Tebow shit. It's like there are people... If you stand up and say, I'm a good guy, stand up for like... marriage. Whatever the thing is, I'm talking about Russell Wilson, not me. I'm saying like... he comes off as like the clean cut, I'm a good guy thing. People hate that shit. Sometimes people hate it because they think it's fake. Sometimes people hate it because that's not who they are. Some people can also be a little bit obnoxious with their promotion of certain virtues. For sure. And that's what I'm saying. There's legitimate reasons to not like that shit. That's why I'm not... But I think it's complicated. That's why I asked y'all. Because I'm like, there's people in the world people just hate. They don't necessarily do anything to earn it. Also, to Ayes's point, the very last boyfriend is gonna get... is gonna get more praise than the rest of the guy's guy. Like you were the last... like we watched Sierra for years. And we watched Russell come and be the last guy in marriage and the kids changed the name. We had the game. We said, like, he's gonna get... Come on. We... yeah. He deserves whatever praise comes with him. Should Giant's fans should be mad at fucking Russell Wilson? Yeah. That hit on fucking Jackson Dirt last night. Boy. Why should they be mad at him? They're gonna kill that boy. Yeah. He gotta learn to play. He gotta learn, y'all. He has to learn at some point. They're gonna learn him. That hit was... They're gonna learn him. Actually, it was old school football. It did that shit on purpose, bro. Football. Football play, though. Like Irvin said, that's real football. That's a football play. It's a football we grew up on. I mean, y'all, if you choose not to slide, alright, I'm a slide you. He hit that nigga by five yards out of bounds. I forgot what that... the fucking... the... what is it? Hard Knock? I was watching the Hard Knocks where somebody was playing Kansas City and the opposing team's coach was like, yo, Pat Mahomes do all that skirting by the sideline, running, trying to be cute, act like you're going out. Pop him. Kill him. Yeah. And Jackson Dirt was in bounds. Oh, I'll take his one good time. Run in. Oh, I'm going out. Don't touch... No, nigga. And people already hate that quarterback. Yeah. PrEP for... PrEP for Richard Treatment. We... we... we hit you when we get hit you. You don't really get that chance to... to really lay a hit on the quarterback. So in that moment, we ain't been waiting for this. Duck season. Wabba-see. Toys out. They tore his ass up. I think it's corny, but... You think what's corny? Which part is corny? That... Yo, you see him... Nah. I'm just... Yo, you see the quarterback running out of bounds and... You purposefully... Like, I just think we not dare no more in sports when niggas be purposefully trying to hurt motherfuckers. That's like old school mentality. I don't think niggas be doing that shit. You don't think it's corny that he runs out of bounds. But he was part of the game. I don't know if they're intentionally trying to hurt him. You just trying to... You can't breathe no more before you're taking it. You crazy as hell. He was trying to hurt that nigga. But not like her injure. Definitely. I don't know if he was trying to injure. Maybe trying to hurt him. Yeah. Trying to... Yo, stop disrespecting us. Like, yo, if I'm defense... Niggas, you slide when you see me. He's also... I ain't even... You ain't even respecting me enough to slide. Ice rules in effect, man. He's also athletic. When you see me, slide. Yeah, you're athletic. You're not gonna be out here running all that. He's also going... Violence. Yo, stop. Yo, freeze. You gotta fight. What happened? I don't know. And nobody pressed me. Freeze, what's up, nigga? I know the Muslim brothers ain't gonna let that shit happen to them. Niggas, I met at at fucking VSU or whatever the fuck I was at. It's you two, Ice Frank. Ice, you two, Ice Frank. Me neither. I feel like I need to, but we grown so the wind doesn't blow. You know, nobody has a problem. I'm not fighting that. Nobody should be fighting right now. You don't fight. I'm not fighting. Niggas, I'm going home. We too old. It's you don't feel like we should see this nigga do something? If you see one of us getting jumped, you're not jumping. Where was your... How you jumping? Your heyday, it just never happened. How are you jumping? No. No, I mean, was y'all fighting at the same time? No. Y'all say y'all ain't see Ice fights if y'all was all fighting. No, man, it's without a... Man, it's we're out together enough to wear as... My bad. Where shit was about to go down, it was about to go down. We were never around Ice... Not that I can remember, maybe one time when we were in a big, thick, intense situation, it was not... And you saw Ice about to get busy. Me and Ice have been in the depths of it. Did Ice look like he was about to get busy? Yeah, Ice was well prepared for the moment. No, Ice was going to get him up out of there. But Freeze, if we get... One of us get jumped. I'm a witch off. Wait, wait, wait. You get jumped with us? Are you stopping it? Yo, you ever see... Are you going to hold us back? Yo, you never see... Yo, you never see bad boys. I've been very disrespectful to him. Yo, 9-1-1? Check here. Check here. Yo, you're a bad boy. Yo, you're a bad boy. I think you're like 9-1-1. Check here. I'm a healthy n****s, man. Freeze! Freeze, I hate when... A lot of n****s do the same thing. The kid that is not rideable. Hey, yo, Freeze. A lot of n****s hold their man. People hold their people when they get in fights. It's good when you're fucked up. You gotta go to the game stop and slide somebody down. We gotta do it, then. Fuck that shit. Holy shit. This is so immature, too. I've never seen parks laid something down. You should need to see that from your friends. That's stupid and toxic and dumb. But it sure is funny. It's just too funny. It's really immature, but it is funny. We already said we're not mature in this year at least. Never. We're not mature in this year. We get immature in this year. No, but I'm not a certain amount of money this year. How? This year? What if you made the money being immature? 30 days left. It's December. You gotta keep straight rolling. What you got playing n****? It's December. No, I mean, 26. 26. No, there's no hope for me this year. I'm as immature as you could want to be at December. Yeah, man, we ain't mature. This is how I know I'm immature. When 12-1 hit and it happened to be a Monday, I was trying to get even more immature. I was like, what? The first is a Monday. I could turn up on these n****s. What could I do? I was thinking the way it's to be immature. Are you crazy? The whole ass is money. N****s, are you shy? I bet. Oh, shit hit on the first? You all shit hit on the first? Monday. I just love Monday. The first was a Monday. Some of the shit hit on the first year. I mean, I don't... Fly me to the moon. My son shit. We got to figure it out. Yeah, Patreon hit on the first. Patreon hit on the first? Don't talk contracts in business. No, no, no, no. We don't do that. On the first? We don't do that. He had cyber Monday. Cyber fraud. No previews. The crack is right. My shit hit on Monday. So I know his shit hit on Monday. Stop, stop, stop. That's not what I was talking about. And they give you options. And they give you options. And it's a different hit. He should be like this. It's just sound like that. Tossed by you. When are you all going to start the new boys, Patreon? That's my last part about partying. Don't try to divert. Hit on the spot. Hit on the spot. Hit on the spot enough. Don't try to distract us. Which one are you or Monday's? Book and Sasha next. Oh, shit. Me? Yeah, I'll book again. You book Sasha? You book Sasha? I did a content with Sasha. I think Sasha is dope. Entertainer. Me too. Shout to Sasha, man. Shout to Sasha. I'm going to fuck you up, nigga. I'm going to fuck you up. Watch your files. I watch your niggas when they do. You see, I like Tuesdays better than Friday. I do. Friday with Lay. I'm in Friday. You see, Mark, when the song's on, that was the most classic episode I've ever been a part of. You see, you gotta put that... You see, you just gotta retweet with it. With the turkey on top. Nobody asked me, but wow. What a classic Friday episode. I know what I said. You know what they try to do, though, right? It doesn't work, though. It doesn't work on you. It worked, man. You had an old Negro League story. Mute up. Yo, listen, y'all. I've been reading. And experiencing. And I have a story about what I've been reading. And experiencing. Negro Leagues, am I right? They playing with you. That isn't my daughter? Don't let them miss you. Don't let them miss you. My children. My daughter, nigga. I swear to God, that happened. That nigga said, satchel page. Josh Gibson. I do that thing with Lay when he's saying, oh, shit, shit. And she a junior. Right here. Oh, shit. And she in college. She in college. Yo. We believe you, bro. Nah, nah, nah, we know, flip. That gonna play with my child. Nah, that's the ass. Nah, that gonna play with my child. That gonna play with my child. Fuck you, I talk a lot. Talkative and how much laughter is going on right now. Oh, man. One like that in the first block. Oh, that is hilarious. That's the reason he left me to drive on that property. Oh my God. The boy, they left. The niggas ain't see it. They left me. He forgot the part that, he the only person that saw it. We don't see it yet. And dropped that 3 a.m. No, I also forgot the part where I said, hey, man, y'all sure y'all want to talk about this if nobody's seen it but me? They said, yeah. That shit was good. We did a good talk. Great talk. Wait until Friday. It's gonna be even better. Oh my God. Because we'll have seen it. Yeah, we all gonna have seen it. Friday we all seen it. Good, I can't wait to see you guys' part. Hey, yo, this nigga right here, this nigga's evil, bro. So you try to tell me what the shit is. Y'all, he be saying shit. Stop. Yeah, yeah, cause you know on Friday this shit gonna be rocking. I didn't make it because we all seen it by then. Hey, yo, nobody, hey, yo, hey, yo. Let's get a flip. Yo, we don't gotta do that. Yo, there's no shame. You see us right here. You see this? You down with us. Us, right here. Us, us. Yeah, but only that. We mesh well. Here's the problem though. Like the Negro Leagues. Here's the problem. Monday, you just gotta respect the game, gang. I do. I'll be here Friday. I'm gonna come here Friday. You can have my spot. I'm gonna show you what I'm gonna do, nigga. Alright. Look at the boy you want to. Look at your man. I'm not looking at none of y'all. Hold on, let me finish this. I need you to promote that and help me to do that. When you do that and put a battery in my back, I don't want to prove nothing because you just trying to participate in my demands. I want you to shine as always. I don't need you to do that. I'm the son, nigga. I'm the Leo, nigga. I shine. I shine, Tom, nigga. I think this is the totally wrong room to broach this, but we work together, fucking hitting the fox hole. What? Ariana Grande and Cynthia. Arrivo. Arrivo. That's it? That's the topic. That's what I have to say about the topic. Have y'all been seeing him? Because I know I'm not... I remember the last cycle they were super chummy. Is it worse this time? It's interesting. Okay. It's interesting. Every video I've seen of them working there, doing a press run, just interesting. Okay. Nigga, they look crazy. Doped out, they look fucked up. Listen, we plan on getting deals with them, we plan on interviewing one of them niggas. Stop tippy-towing, they look nuts. I was looking for what they called their relationship. Oh, here we go. A non... Double-check that. I don't think that was wrong. I saw what you were talking about. We don't know if this is true. I'm saying it. It explains the behavior. A non-demy curious semi-binary relationship. I got to... If I got to come up with all the words to describe the relationship, I don't want to sound like I'm shit on the body. These two on the Wicked promo run have been wicked. They have... They've looked like just a weirdo couple. And that's framing it kindly. Cynthia has been extremely overprotective of Ariana. Ariana. Extremely. Past... Word overprotective is not even a word. She would just totally disengage from whatever interview they were in. Not... Give eye contact to an interviewer to hold her hand, to kiss on her. They answer certain questions for each other. They hold hands out of... They just... All of the stuff they could possibly be doing that looks a little... strange. Do you think Hollywood did that to them? Because I mean, Ledger had to go into a part... Recipes. And that was something that they said, he had to play the role or turn it to a certain person when he was playing the Joker. Do you think that they just overdid it? They had to go into a certain character like method acting to play these... a certain role to play these characters? Maybe that's part of it? Even if the white man don't know, niggas over. The funny shit is on the flip side, you could say that they're acting like good, good girlfriends. Which Ariana I feel like has done before with other people she worked with and stuff. They look... You see her at the games, on the TV or whatever. Girls be protective of their girlfriends. Dude was talking to Shorty in the interview and she reached over and pulled her arm back. That ain't just good, good girlfriends stuff. We not gonna dance around that part. Some of this shit look weird, but we don't know what it is. I don't want to label nobody. And I don't want them to put the masculine part on the dark skinned black woman. She's the only protective one. Which is what they're making it seem like. Well that's what's happening. They're not making it seem like. No, no, but if it was a white woman being protective of another white woman, it wouldn't be getting blown out of proportion like this. I don't think. And Cynthia is... In the same fashion than maybe it would. Cynthia has looked like she was about to square up with men. Yeah. That's not a color thing. If a girl does that, protecting her girl as an onlooker, I'm gonna say alright that's a little odd. And from what I know, Cynthia has been in a long-term relationship with Lena Waithe. So I don't even know if that's... Oh so you got more teeth than me. Yeah, that's a girl. I don't know. So come on man. Call a fucking spade a spade. I don't play cards. You do. I forgot how. You didn't. You got right up under that one. We back to one hour issues. We back to one hour issues. Bring that topic back up. Yeah. Alright y'all don't care, I don't care. Nah. Maybe they're dating or something. If they are, then God bless. Yeah, look, that's a fucking... Finds what it is. Look at Mark, quiet. You gotta know when it comes to women, he's such a bitch. I support that. I support freedom. They're minds. I support that so much. Look at him. Quiet. I just don't know the story that well. Shut the fuck up. It's the same thing that I would have said. Yeah, but you're more of a research student bitch. Don't try it. You saw the story. All I saw from the story was it looked like she was being framed very masculine, but I also saw her behavior which seemed like she was performing a certain kind of masculine. To me, it's like two people are dating on the low. Except it ain't that much on the low. That's how I saw it. So you feel like the media is overblowing it? You know what it is? I just don't care. Okay. I'm saying I didn't read that much into it. I just assumed they were dating. They fucking, you know what I mean? It kept it moving. That's kind of how I saw it. It didn't think too much of it. Tiktokers made me care. You do a lot of tiktok in these days. There's always the tiktokers. You do a lot of tiktok. When people send me clips, they be tiktok clips. Same. And by people. Trust. Okay. It's like, all right, let me just download this shit. I think she thinks I work Tuesdays and Fridays. You do. Got it. She's worth way more than that. Ain't you having me tricking me up? I'm cool. I love you, baby. What's up with your man, Jesse Smollett? I was going to ask y'all. I see him on the board. Back at it. Seen his interviews. What he did? Back at it. What he do? He went on. Why people can let me not say that. He went on camera. That's what he said. What's going on? Where's my fucking phone? You can tell. That's all y'all. What do you mean that's all y'all? He's trans with you. This ain't puff. It's Jesse. You can take him. If I take on puff, you can do the Jesse. You didn't take on puff, you sent Ian and hit under the table. What he's talking about? I mean on this part. When he not hitting. I know he mentioned the music video where he was like, I don't know what the angle was. I'm assuming good faith in that. He also mentioned the Dave Chappelle comedy routines. He's basically talking about what I saw. The million dollar question that anybody would want to ask are you still sticking with the story? There is no story. Are they still sticking with the story? I've stuck with the truth. The entire time. Now there have been things that with me telling the truth that people will I remember being where they were like oh, he did a hoax and I was like, I did not. And then they're like, well he was buying cocaine and I was like. How he did that voice? This is cocaine voice. My bad. That was true. Or they're like, oh, he did it. No, the fuck I did not. Or he was buying that. I was. But that has nothing to do with that. I just want to separate the bullshit from the truth that they tried to put on it. The fact of the matter is is that I was walking down the street and I got jumped. You're buying shit up because I'm a grown ass man and have no reason to do no corny bullshit like that. If I was going to set up some bullshit to look for attention I would look like a hero. I wouldn't look like a victim. If I was going to set up some bullshit and I was really a dumbass to do some shit like that, I'm a director, I'm an actor, I'm a writer, I'm a creator. It would have been flawless. It would have been fierce. It would not have been no bullshit. Like whatever dumbass did that, did it. Period. Now whoever really did it congratulations to them because they actually got away with it. You know what I mean? But at the same time, do not come at me like I'm some complete idiot. I'm a very intelligent man. You know what I mean? Humble, all of those things. But come on, I'm an intelligent man. I stand in who I am. I've gone out there and I've told who I am when I did not have to. I did not have to. I've been very honest about my life and about who I am from the very beginning of my career. When I didn't have to do that because there's a lot of people that don't. They don't have to do that. So it just doesn't run with the history of me. It doesn't run with who I've ever been. And that has to stand for something. People's history should mean something. I've never been a frivolous man. I've never been an attention whore. I've never been any of those things. So you cannot then pull me into this and convince me to start seeing myself as a person. Again, I've said what I've said for seven years. I've never changed my story. Everyone else has. I have nothing to gain from that at all. I did not want to be seen as a victim. That's facts. Yo, he answered the question. I was waiting for that part. He did. I missed it. He answered at the very beginning. I was sticking to the story. I don't have a story that has the truth. He said, I told the truth the whole time. He reiterated. I'm telling the truth. I'm telling my story. Fix the mic. He said he was going to buy cocaine. That became a part of the story now. But first he said he was going to... Subway. Maybe he's buying cocaine to Subway. Subway. Maybe he's buying cocaine to Subway. From the subway. From the subway. You did work at Subway, didn't you? Corporate. And you were a drug dealer. But they weren't open at that time of night. Every time you mention one of his jobs, he said corporate. No, I don't. You weren't at Subway corporate. You making sandwiches? Hey, don't stop playing. They didn't even fly. Why in the front? What you doing at the corporate? Corporate everywhere. Actual oil and vinegar. Send thousands in the hero. Come on. I want the cold-cut combo. Mail on both sides of the break. Listen, Cincinnati's out of the way. I'll claim that at that time. You know who I was working in. You gotta be careful. I worked in real estate, leasing and construction at Subway corporate. Okay, cool. You ain't run as a chairman. Wait, what is this? I was in the stock room at the Wiz with you. Still in TV's. You work at leasing, construction, and what at Subway? So you build Subway. Yes. Corporate Subway? I don't think that's corporate. I set the leases up with the landlord. I was a liaison between the Subway franchisee, the landlord, and... It's all right, bro. What do you make of that? You're a liaison. How are we doing this? How old were you? 20... That was my last job ever I had. I was recently. 20, 27, 28? How do you feel as an employer when someone tells you... I mean, that was my last... That was my last job. I would have left that shit too. We saved them. Subway's neat and fresh. No wonder you hate the winter. It's nice. No, that's dope. That's a good job, especially the young age. Actually, my stomach's growling right now, man. Don't tell... He's about to sit and make the corporate... He's trying to... He's still got it, though. He tried to tell you to go get... Go get him some Subway. Put a little mobile subway right there. Right there. He's like, there's a spot... Put your fucking mobile subway. He's like, bring the cookies, man. Famous Amazines too. Yo. Yo, corporate, I'll start using that shit. I can't. I can't use it. I worked at the Wiz. Corporate. He was a liaison between the Niggas and the Fingers. Between the Niggas and the Fingers. Between the Niggas and the Fingers. In the Subway. I actually was a liaison for the Wiz. I did work in Wiz corporate. But, Jussie, man, how'd y'all feel about the interview? What'd y'all think? I'm gonna be respectful, because his sisters is fine. I got a new family respect for the Smollett family. It's not because of Jussie. So, I wish he mute up. He keep fucking it up. Yo, I'll hear trying to get some roles. Your sisters gave the redemption. They find a killing shit. They're beautiful. You had your run. That's what you did with it. You got the whole Chicago PD, man. Like, it's over. When Cam Newton... When Cam Newton called you, you shouldn't even answer the phone. Like, what is Jussie Smollett going to Cam Newton? I want to hear your in-depth opinion on how you feel about the interview. And what he said. I don't understand... I'm his patron. I don't understand why Jussie still doing the interviews. I don't think it's advancing the story. I think people who believe him are going to believe him. I think the overwhelming majority of people who don't aren't going to feel any different after the interview. I just don't... I don't think it helps anything. And I think the way he's responding to questions doesn't make him look stable. Some of his rambles don't look just like regular. Like, I talk too much rambles, because we all talk too much at times. Um, present company excluded. I think it's more like... It reminded me how we looked in the courtroom. You know what I mean? He was like, I'm not suicidal. I'm not suicidal. It looked unhelp... He did it well. That was nuts. Yeah, and this doesn't look well, so I don't think it helps the story. I just don't think it helps anything. I have no idea. I don't want to speculate on... I don't want to speculate on... Was that a political answer? No. No. That was a good answer. You was running a little bit. No, I pulled you back over here. That was a great answer. No, no, man. You pulled him back. I didn't want to talk about it. I just didn't know what angle we were taking on. I think we were talking about the other stuff. You're cool with the nigga. Yeah, when he was... I haven't spoken to him in about a year. You got a pack marker. I can't be cool. We got a pack marker. To be clear, I knew Jesse before all this happened. True. You can be cool. You were talking to him right away, right? And you're a writer and a director. I interviewed him a couple of years back in the pandemic when all this was happening to get his side of the story. And there were a lot of us who were advocating for him not to do prison time. Okay. For me, the resolution to the Justice Smallhead thing should have been him at the very least paying for... What they paid. All of the man hours. Yeah. All of that. Putting him in the cage for a year or two, I don't think it was going to help anything. To me. Is there ever a version of the story where you were one of the attackers and he had to send you to A's Hardware to get the rope and shit? To avoid incriminating myself. I don't want to speak on this matter at all. Smart. Yeah. Your mom, has any of your friends hit you up DM you after... You took up the risk. After one of your takes up here? Say that again? Has any of your friends hit you up, Roju, after one of your takes up here? Yeah, all the time. Like, man, I mean, your mom, what's up, man? I'm not sold. No, no, no. I'm not sold. My soul. There are a few people who I wouldn't call friends, but like celebrities who are like, yo, why'd you say that? A few people who stopped doing content with me because they didn't like a take I had on something. Up here. About them or your take about something that they were passionate about? Usually the latter. It's usually not about them because I don't really go in on people like that. But like the Saudi Arabian thing definitely didn't win me friends among comedians. When did you meet Justice Smallhead? Oh, you told my daughter. With Harry Belafonte at his... Oh, that was better than my mom. He fucking asked the question. At the mansion in St. Martin. You know what I mean? At the mansion in St. Martin. Yeah, so because Harry Belafonte obviously was really big on connecting with artists, activists. And Jesse was doing activism at the time. And Angela Davis was a deep admirer of Jesse's work. And actually... Yo, Mark, he dropped some... He took them all up at once. He asked me how I met him. That's true. So Angela and I were backstage and watched him perform at the Many Rivers Festival. That's where I first met him in Georgia. It was a big music festival. It was Harry Belafonte's last music festival. And then after that, we connected and stayed in communication. I stayed in communication with his family and then when he got arrested, we stayed in contact. So Mark, you had nice friends. You had nice friends at all, Mark. I didn't say Justice, but you all keep saying that's your man. I didn't say that's my friend. I don't call people friends that I'm just cool with this man. I thought I had him. I'm sick of Mark with that friendship. If I say they're my friend, they're my friend. Usually I say I'm cool with them or I know them. That's different. I wish I would have walked in friends giving and Jesse Smollett would have been by that pool table. What? There were about three people who were on the grade list. There were about three people who were on my invite list that were kind of great. They were on the... They were a teeter in between the invite and non-invite and based on y'all being there, I said no. Because I know y'all didn't... Like who? Just Smollett. I don't know one. Your man was like, oh good, it ain't just me. I'm like, damn, they got you. Yeah, there was one of them. I'll tell you off, Mike. Was it because of me or one of them? Both. One was probably all the above. And then there was two more. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and then two more people who... You probably wouldn't have been having... I'd be so shocked to learn that people have issues with me. Really? Yes. Maybe I'm just a loofa. Yeah, you might be over there. I'm serious. Apologize to me whatever happened to whoever this is. I'm not even necessarily saying you was wrong. I was probably wrong. One of them you definitely was. The other one's not necessarily. A lot of times it's just I don't want attention at my house. How old was I too when I was wrong? Six months ago. Oh, you got four and a half? Six months ago I was only four and a half. How old are you? Shut up. Shut up, fuck y'all. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. You better not have came to Mark's house that day, nigga. I don't know who it was. I've been cutting more than clubs. How do you pull that off? How do you pull that off, man? Joe's coming. It's a lot easier to pull it off before you go on a podcast. You can just not tell people something happened. But if people watch the podcast and know something happened, they'll go, what happened? You didn't get the delivery? I can't tell them my excuses now, but yeah. Oh, like you did with the party? No, I showed you, you was on the list. Oh, same thing. I remember that. It's you been on this for everything I've ever had. Because I've known you. Niggas want you around. Niggas want you around. I ain't gonna hold you. I shouldn't take it personally. You need to ask your friends to give me a call. Yeah, he was supposed to be around. We want you around, bro. And you the connector. And your birthday coming up. Your birthday coming up. And we doing something. That's the thing I want to talk about. It's on the day of work. I dare you. Niggas will beat the dog shit out of you. It's birthday's on the work day. I'll beat you up, nigga. I snuff you if you don't come in on work. I'll bring you a cake. I'll bring you a hug, nigga. I'll kiss you in your cheek. Oh, shit, your birthday is on the work day. It's on the work day. I'm coming in that day. Oh, shit. I'm sure Bona would do something great for us. I only got something for you. Oh, I'm sure. I don't know it's birthday. I know it's Tuesday like a mother. No, it's Friday. We gonna bring you a cake. Bro, you gonna be 50. You did it enough, nigga. You played 007 long enough. You hit the family from us. Okay, good. You got it. But let us celebrate you, nigga. We love you. He did freeze. He body that shit, though. Word, at this point you can come out your shell, nigga. We don't want to see y'alls. We don't want to see if you can be private. We just want to love you. How would you feel if you walked into a surprise party? Who are you in a shell? I'm gonna ask that again. How would you feel if you walked into a surprise party? Not my bad. Would you be angry at us? No, hell no. Say less. You wouldn't be angry at my surprise party. No. Real happy. What type of surprise? Happy as we've seen you in two times. Oh, the $40 choice. Yeah. Swabby Mende. Oh, shit. You're a fucking circle. You wrote up. We ain't gonna play pranks with you and throw cake at you. No, no, no. We're gonna throw him something nice. Y'all think Elvis was appropriating Dominicans? Wait, what? What? You be thinking some moral shit, Joe. Elvis might have never seen it. Yeah, that's what she mentioned it. Elvis never saw Dominicans like. Okay, but do you think he was appropriating Dominicans? What song? The hymn. The hymn. The outfit. The hair. The outfit. The look. The moves. Hold on, hold on, hold on. My daughter, princess. Can you tell them what you did to your teacher, please? Okay, so yesterday he was teaching me something and then he used the word negro a lot and I didn't really like it, but after class I see him like he bumped into me and he was like, oh, do you want to tell it to me? And I was like, yeah, I do. And then I told him, although I know he's educating us and he might think I'm sensitive for this but I told him how he would stay negro a lot and he could use a different word. Now, once or twice, okay, if you're saying the word up on the PowerPoint, that's fine, but he said it eight times. Okay. And then usually, whenever he teaches something about African Americans, he used the word African Americans. This particular lesson he just kept saying negro and I told him how I liked it. Okay, thank you, Pritzitz. Watch that mountain. Pritzitz, we love you. Thank you. Thank you, guys. Say something. Make sure you stay in school. No, she's in school. Come on. I know. She's trying to be a lawyer. I can hear her mom is killing that shit. Yeah. Salute body. For real, yeah. What you saying? Are you crazy? You don't act as if I'm outside. Outside. We agree. Man outside. You about to invite over to the crib. I want to talk to you about that because I got somebody in my mind who I'm thinking about you trying to slide over. I'ma talk to you, nigga. No, I'm talking about... We probably on the same page. I got another really random question for y'all. I thought you was trying to body me. I thought you was lit. I don't aspire to be dead. I don't aspire to be dead. Go ahead, Joe. What's your question? Joe, what's your question? Please stop. Please, Joe, get us out of here. What's the question? Where do y'all stand with Ellen DeGeneres? We love her. She's been crossing some lines some time. I used to be a really big fan. I thought her personality was dope. And then when all of the behind the scenes shit started coming out, it was almost like all... They say where there's smoke, there's fire. It was so many people. Wasn't it just that she's mean? It's hell. Like, different type of mean. Like, was treating her cats like shit, treating all her employees like shit. It was like one of the meanest. Like, Steve Jobs level mean. Steve Jobs mean? Yeah, he was mean. And even a little worse, right? Because with Ellen, her shtick was... Her brand. Yeah, her entire brand was being kind of people, loving people, donating, giving money away, organizing shit, shining the light. Yeah, do all that shit, no, I gotta give her shit off. See? I just wanted to know, I mean, I was, again, one of my favorite things to watch is the Dark Side of Comedy. I've seen every one of them. I watch them whenever I'm just beat. She was on it? Yes, it was an Ellen episode. It was a Robert Williams episode. There was a bunch of episodes. But, yeah, I was like, I wonder if everybody still believes Ellen to be the dick that... She would have to be like, a really, like, crushing people's lives. They said it was bad, bro. But I'm saying, was there any examples? Yeah, I think... It was bad. I mean, one of the examples used on Dark Side of Comedy, was a young kid who was a singer, he had some type of fucking talent, and Ellen called him and she was gonna fly him in. They was working together for a while. And I guess she had a script that she got from a movie that wasn't out, that she had to go through a lot of loopholes to get, and she gave it to the mom so the boy could read it because she was gonna give him an opportunity, right? And it's the boy, but he's a little older now, so it's him telling the story. Okay. And he said, whatever was going on that weekend, he hadn't gotten around to reading the script. That's mistake number one, fucking with Ellen. And he said, Ellen called his mom and they were over there having a long, long, long conversation that the mom later told him some of the things that Ellen was saying, which was on some shit like, you failed as a mom. Like, how could you not have him read this? I've jumped through all of these hoops and what the fuck are you doing? And yada yada, just on that type of vibe, like a dick. That's not enough to read. Sorry, don't. That's not enough. Come on, just say it. I hate hearing those stories. I'm gonna talk to my mom like that, it's crazy, but I don't... Yeah, y'all just pardoning them. I'm not pardoning them. If somebody just called your mom and started whilin' on your mom. No, if it happened to me, that's different, but hearing it happen to somebody else. You know what it is? I assume that anybody who's that nice on camera is probably a bit of an asshole behind him. Same. I naturally am. What about Oprah? So I guess that's why it doesn't disappoint me or shock me, because I'm already walking into it expecting that. Oprah, I don't know enough to say. I haven't heard those awful stories and I've read all of her biographies. I'm not saying. I heard there's a lot of dirt, but none of it is like she's a monster. Got it. You know what I mean? I'm just saying, that don't make you a monster. That's all I'm saying. All right, a dick. Yeah. But a monster, bro, I need a little bit more. You go through all the loopholes. You can't get somebody the opportunity. And they fuck it up. And they fuck it up. You'll be upset too. You'll be upset. I'm not calling nobody mom and calling them a failure as a mom, because their kid didn't read the script. Yeah, that's terrible. I'm not. Y'all ask for an example. That's one of the examples. There's much more you'd have to see it yourself. You gotta hear both sides. I see how far this is a dick. Sorry. Because what if the person just interpreted it as being called a tarot mom and she wasn't calling your tarot mom. She was just implying that she could have done better at making sure that this was important. What are you guys doing? But the point is there's been so many stories about her. Yeah, you would that if it's a standalone, but this is fudged in between. If I hear the rest of them, then I might be on video. And also, is it because everyone assumes that she's so nice that if she's a little bit mean, it comes off as, oh my, I thought she was an angel. But she's not. She's not really that mean. If any other normally keeled human beings said the things that she said, they would take it at face value. But if it's coming from someone that you perceive as this angel, now it looks like you're a monster, but not really a monster. It was stories. It was stories. I don't. I would have to hear more. Yeah, I don't recall. You know what I mean? There were a lot of them. I'm sure. From people that worked with her for over 10 years. There was a lot of stories. But anyway, I just want to ask. I thought about it. Sorry. It's all good. No problem. Shout out to the other. Or not. Or not. Your Freeze. Yo. I'm with you a little bit. I was looking at the, um, the, the Special People Olympics. Not Olympics. I mean, the, the, the, the walkway, the, the runway. The fashion show. Freeze. Is it, is it still a runway? Yo. Your Freeze. Your Freeze. Your Freeze. Your Freeze. Your Freeze. Your Freeze. Your Freeze. Your Freeze. Your Freeze. Your Freeze. Your Freeze. I saw the nubs, no legs, fire with a fatty too. Chubbed up, right? Chubbed right up. She had a fatty with no legs. I said, hey, I want an artist to look at your hands. No restraints on the side. I thought about it. I was going through it too. I thought about it. I think it's great to come in and report what chubbed you up over the weekend. Hey, on Parks. It was nice. Some of them be fire. I bet. There's a disabled person's fashion show? Yes. I saw clips online. Yeah, I saw the clip. Everybody keeps sending it to me. Yo, yo, it's your bag. It is. It is, though. I see the colors. That's why you got the clothes. They attract those types of colors too. Please, please. What the fuck? And then there's James Brown. James, Piz Bronson. You're a little... Oh, man. Chill, chill. Stop all that. Freeze. You that nigga, son? I'm chilling. I said, I wonder what freak... At first I was cutting your ass, but then I went and I said, uh-huh. And you got to go through something. I went through some shit. So my mom was just wanting to go to another round, but I salute you. Show me some more. Nigga, send me some more, okay? Don't salute. Send me all the pages. Don't salute me, bro. Salute to the disabled community. Indeed. I'm glad you all can see their humanity and recognize their beauty. You're all like Frank Sinatra, man. Not me. See, y'all. I'm Polish. What's they know? Milk and Burl. Milk and Burl. Milk and Burl. Look at you. Milk and Burl. Milk and Burly. Let's see here. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. Yo, Duh-Duh. Yo, Duh-Duh. No, I'm asking you to be that. Yo, Duh-Duh. What allegation? What allegation? What allegation? What you saying? What allegation, nigga? Stop, get out the fucking booth. What allegation, nigga? Come on, come through. Come through with this segue. I'm the segue king. I'm the segue king. This segue would be like, hey, you know what I'm in. Fuck out of here, Maya. Listen, no, the Max B performance. Oh. That's what I'm saying. That's why I didn't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on, come on. Who's ready to tell the truth in here? Come on, come on, come on. Last Friday. Toss it into frees. There we go. Black Friday, Max B performed at an Excel in Elizabeth. Were you there? No. Yes. I was not there. In spirit. Yes, he was. I was as he was going there. You had someone there streaming it for you? No. No. Tell us about the frees. It was, it was, you know. But anyway, so as the video started to go out from the performance, one of the songs he performed was his A-Rap money remix, which is called Grand Crew Grand Crew Money or something like that. But it contains lines in it where he's this and Jim, this and Chrissy. Yeah. You sent them an LDJ version? No, they didn't answer. I actually, I sent something about that to them. Like, yo, y'all. But anyway. But yeah, so then video comes out and it looks like a. Your solo shots. Direct contrast to everything he's been saying about moving forward, moving positive. And why would you do this song? Like, it's a lot of questions came out. Yeah. And then his report, his retort was that Fung Flex was D-Day. And that's all he had, right? Yeah. He said basically Flex backdoored him. That's what he said. He said Flex told him he was going to only play Pin the Tail. I have one record which is Pin the Tail on the Dunkie. Yeah. He said that Flex played that. And he said he was just in the moment. He didn't want to not perform the record. But he said he had no intentions of disrespecting Jim. He said we all got families. We all got wives. And he apologized for doing it. And my question to Frieze was, do you believe that story that Flex might have did that? And is Flex to blame in doing that? I took it at face value. So if that is what happened in Flex played the record, I've said this to them, to this camp. I said, I think Max handled that wrong in that moment. I see, I watched the video. I see he never said certain words, but the back track is playing. So it's the same thing. Like he went like this one time, but you still played it. Like you could have freestyleed acapella or just not done a record. So you flexed, you flexed on that. This is a club appearance. So you only doing two songs or three songs. You know, it's real short. So, and I was just like, and how do y'all not have, if you needed me to send you sexy love for the Barclays, how do y'all not have a thumb drive with three to five records to go at any time? You should have that anyway. So. What do you think, Joe? Yeah. I think it's a good attempt at a cleanup. Right? I mean, yeah, it's good to apologize and shit. Yeah, of course. I believe everything Max said. I don't think that he should be running around. I don't think that he's just running around with thumb drives. And if you just came home, I'm talking about, you said he should. His people. I'm saying his people. Your manager gets to know if he has picked people. He has people. I'm telling you something. He carries people with him. He has a group of people. It's, it's, he got people. I don't know that his group of people is the same at every event Max B does. They, for the most part are, for the most part. For the most part, man. They were, they were at the, some of the people from that team were in Elizabeth at XL. Okay. I used to say, and I reached out to him for, I see too many worlds where what Max is saying could happen. No, it could happen for sure. But then even in that moment, you gotta, if I, I don't think Max went in on some, trying to be funny shit. Personally, you got other records that will do it way more than that. That the crowd would know that ain't even one of your top records. Like I was even, when I heard it, I'm like, why the hell is he doing this song? So that stood out for me. So maybe that's all Flex had, but you got it as, as the DJ, you still gotta know what's going on too. Like you in charge of that. You have to know that. So if you're playing this song, you know, you know what you're doing, y'all. Yes. The DJ you saying? Yes, the DJ. So you feel like Flex, that's what my question is. So, Flex, okay. That was indeed Flex DJing? Yes. Or was it just a Flex thrown event? No, no, they have other DJs, but when, when, when they do them type of parties and they have like a, a headliner, so to speak, Flex comes out to DJ for them. But do we know that that was Flex that night? Yes. He said it was Flex. And I can totally see Flex to shoot him some bail. Like he could have just went into his Max B's in the Serrano and that's what he had. So he was like, fuck it. Okay, I remember this and didn't remember all the connotations that were in the verses. That's entirely possible, bro. As a DJ, your mind isn't necessarily thinking of all the disc lines in a record. I understand. You're just trying to get. No, I'm not, I'm not rolling with that. I'm not rolling with that. It's too much of a mistake. It's too, exactly. It's too much of a mistake. Somebody's job to know that Max is on some shit like, yo, the gig is the gig. I just came home. That's the song that DJ put on. I mean, I didn't rap it, but I'm not gonna cancel the gig. I'm gonna give my people the show that they look for. He said that I take them at his word. I believe what he tweeted out after that Jaru fight at the Barclays. I do not believe that Max B is on any bullshit. But even bigger than that, I was just proud of Harlem's response. Like the people that I heard talking about it, when I first saw it, I had the, oh yeah, okay. It was a big side, big side. But before Max addressed any of it, I heard people from Harlem talking about just how much both sides mean to Harlem, what could happen if this goes a different way and how everybody needs to be preventative in making sure that people on both sides that love both people to make sure that none of that is happening in 2025. That was 17 years ago. We not on it like that. We don't wanna see it. We don't want bloodshed. We don't want none of that shit. I love that response from New York. I absolutely love it. I was more happy for New York responding that way than I was for thinking about flex and yada, yada, yada, yada. I can understand flex position. I understand what Max B is saying, but New York and the resounding response that I heard. You made sure to put that to bed early. Yeah, yeah. And that's dope. Even on the Max cleanup. Even on the Max cleanup, it was somebody saying, yo, nah. Yeah, we ain't on that. Come on now. We not doing that. Please tell me you not doing that because, you know, so I appreciated that. And that speaks to what we were talking about earlier. People having real people around them that could speak out and say something. You know what I'm saying? In a moment like that, yeah, your phone should, there should be somebody that got your phone number that should be able to call you to fuck up. Yeah. And be like, yo, dawg, what the fuck are you doing? Even to hear your explanation and to be OK that, but just the way that should look crazy at first. And we needed the explanation same day. Yeah, right away. Don't let it. I'm glad that happened like that. They didn't waste no time. Yep. Thank God. Thank God. That's all I said. And do I think flex was trying to like incite some shit? No, like I said, it was just bad preparation. But as the DJ, if this is what you're doing, you got to do better than that in that moment. True. Because that could have went all the way left, completely unnecessarily. And Max got enough songs that he could. He should have. That's the point. He got way better. Nigga, if that's the only option, then don't play no song. Don't play. Cut the music off. If all you got is some shit that's going to start a fucking war. Yep. Then cut the music off. Have Max B come to the stage, say some words, acapella, thanking his fans. Man, Max got records that they know. He could have started singing and let the crowd would have participated on songs. Like if it's a Max B crowd, he has. I know a lot. I've been seeing ever since Max came home. A lot of people saying this whole, oh, who is Max B? We didn't listen to him out here. That's fine. New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Massachusetts knows Max B's music through and through. And when he's performing anywhere in that strip right there, when they show up, they know the songs. So he could you ain't even have to play that song. Or as soon as you realize something, even if you don't could have cut it, you couldn't know. Like it's on there money. You should be a fan of I'm just I enjoy watching somebody. Why don't enjoy watching somebody sit up for 17 years? But I enjoy watching people pick up where they left off. Hell yeah. Like I think people should be allowed that opportunity. I do. I'm a fan. I did Providence this weekend and I was like, see that that look. That's what I'm used to seeing. I like that. And it was lit. And it was lit. And they knew the words. Him and French used to run that whole man. That was their strip. Yeah. And him and French got music coming out. Yeah. Yeah. You out with New York. January 6th. January 6th. January. I forget the date. I know the show is the 16th and 17th. So it might be the week before. I have double check. Shout out to them. His album was supposed he was supposed to be dropping PD7. It was Sam was Friday, which I'm kind of glad that didn't drop just yet. Like let it let it build up. For sure. Let it build up. Oh, speaking of music. Did you hear Stove Gods? I still have it because we're going to do a live reaction on the air on Friday. Before you approach that, let me just throw in because we was talking about the show at the Barclays. I want to say that Money Long has removed herself from the boy's mind tour with Brandy and Monica citing health concerns. Her doctor said you cannot continue if you do it. It'll be bad for your health. Oh, yeah. Listen to your doctor. Yeah, you gotta listen to your doctor. So Money Long, we love you. We praying for you. Absolutely. Dave since added Maya to the spot dates. I think that makes a lot of sense. So if you have a chance to check out all the boys' mind tour when it comes to a city near you, I suggest you do so. Well, you all being horny again? Yeah. Got it. It's that simple. Oh, he wanted me to look. No, I wasn't on that. What was you on? You wasn't on Maya? I think it's too good for Maya. Yeah, you that nigga, boy. I'm with you, though. I'm with you. Never fails, boy. Back when Maya, when in the run of Maya, I wasn't looking at Maya like that, and that as an adult. Honestly, I look at Maya as an adult. That's what I'm about to say. And Maya still look like Maya. Maya back then, was that? And Maya says she ain't fucking like 12 years or something. She's like, she's married. She's sitting there. I just believe. Yes, we believe women. Especially when it comes to the pussy mouth. Of course. Of course. I believe women. Anyway. Anyway. Yeah, I saved my reaction because I want to do it. I'm on it. OK, so you still didn't get that off. I just still have got a fan. I've had still got on my record before, a Christmas record too, so I'm still. I would like to hear what this sounds like. Lots of reactions. I see it's got some people in a tussie. Let's go. I'm here already. What's the problem? This is fucking hard. I love this record. I like that. You know the problem. Come on. I completely know what the problem is. Did you sound it? Yeah. Too plain. Yeah, this is fire. This shit is heat. This is fire. You know, whoever does it like this, you're here. What's the issue? You know, come on now. We're not going to play like this. This is like some old school mentality shit where everything got to sound like a preemie. No, dog. Yeah, but people. This is fire. People get used to you in a certain. They got stove in a box. But still was doing other shit. I understand. Even on the gun records, there was some trappy-ish, that's the wrong word, but not super slow boom-bap shit. Like he's always been on different shit as well as doing the boom-bap shit. This record is heat. I think that you know more about Stove God Cooks than most people. That's probably true. I think that since his Clips album appearance, some people that may not have been so familiar with him, they got to be some of those. That's a lot. Yeah, for sure. If a hook could take over an album, he goddamn did it. I think there's new people here. I think they're just saying, like I'd say, it's in a box and it sounds different. I think that not only is this hard, but this is the natural next steps for him, I feel like. He's also put out records where... I played one on sleep right here. I made a joke, like I'm gonna play some R&B too, and it was Stove God over some fucking... I remember that. That was hard. Yeah, it was a hard record. Like this is not even weird or rare for his solo shit or nothing. So shut the fuck up. Hey, listen, I'm all for doing some other shit when it's dope. It's hard. That shit, I heard that record and was like, yeah. I woke up that day and thought the internet had him dead the right before I heard this on the way they was going. Yeah. I said, I was still waiting to get him out to dry. I was like, whoa, let me go check it out. Then I started fucking driving my head. That shit came on. It was crazy. Go Stove God. Some of y'all ears be bad. I don't know what to tell you. They just want it, like you say, want to keep you sounding just like this. No attempt at growth, nothing, so that we could then complain and say, you make the same song over and over. Right. Sorry, dawg. I'm playing this just because it was hard. You won't know what I know. You ain't seen what I saw though. You ain't seen what I saw though. This is on Stove God, bitch. Hey. I'm just talking about a thing with what I ain't close. She was saying you inside out. Hey, shit. She said you inside out. Fuck a roof on his knees, let me inside out. Fresh friends, jacket, walkers, sit inside out. Oh, come on. That remind me of all your shit. Come on, man. Remember that record, Good Drink? It was two chains, I think Gucci and Quavo, but then he went and got the choir to do the hook. And it reminded me, it was like, that's when they started using the trap choir first. Gotcha. And it reminds me of that. The other day there was a clip of Stokely singing, You're Breaking My Heart, and the band was playing it behind him. I think he was too close to the horn, so you couldn't hear him, but great idea, great idea. He hoes as loud as fuck. Also in music, I want to read this. I saw a parks posted and I saved it to read it just cause I thought it was fly. This is great. A record producer in LA said, most musicians don't fail because they're bad. They fail because their nervous system can't survive the industry. And every artist in the room went still. He said the biggest myth in music is that success depends on exposure. No, he said, it depends on whether your body can handle being unseen longer than you expected. Most artists quit not because they're untalented, but because their brain interprets silence as danger. The industry doesn't break voices, it breaks nervous systems. They scout emotional, he said, labels don't scout talent. They scout emotional durability. This is when I saved this. The ability to create when numbers drop, to write when no one cares, to perform after rejection number 47. Or 447. To stay human when algorithms treat you like a product. He said 90% of rising artists crumble, not from hate, but from the invisible weight of being ignored. He left earth right there. Then he told the story of a singer who went viral overnight and disappeared six months later. Not because she lacked songs, because the dopamine crash after fame felt like grief. He is killing this. Her body couldn't handle the altitude, he said. And no one teaches artists how to breathe up there. The crowd went silent like they suddenly recognized themselves. He revealed the real industry filter. He said, not talent, not looks, not luck. Just the ability to keep creating without collapsing into comparison, self doubt, or the terror of being quote unquote too late. Most artists don't lose their dream, he said. They lose their self trust. He ended with a line that felt like a punch. Your biggest enemy isn't the industry. It's the version of you that believes you're running out of time. He is. He can't smoke it. Because that belief kills more careers than bad marketing or missed opportunities. And every musician in the room suddenly exhaled. Like someone finally named the monster under the stage. He smoked that shit. Whoever this is. It could have been an AI. I don't care. The words were great. The words were absolutely great. Even if that's AI, AI got that from a real place. Yeah, they smoked that. He, he, that was it. That was it. He wanted to throw that in there on the tail end of our stove guy conversation. Brother Mark. Oh yeah, I just wanted to send a RIP to one of our, at least for underground rap fans. One of the greats. Mars co-op. Mars co-op. From the Roots Crew collective. Most famous for the opening verse on clones. Yes, he body clones. She went crazy on, but did a number of other features. He's all up and down. Half life body in it. Yeah. Yeah. We don't know the cause of death, but rest in peace. At least I'm not aware of what it is. Yeah, nothing's been announced yet, but shout out to him and Salute. Ten of love to all of you. I was just Googling trying to find it, but yeah, you're all right. Yeah, they haven't, to my knowledge, revealed anything. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Rest in peace. A life lost. Man, it's getting rough as a Roots fan. It's over the years, you know, from hub to, even the manager Rich Nichols, obviously, you know, Malik B. I mean, you know, it's some losses, man. So sending him love and comfort. For sure. For sure. Yes, sir. There's now a good time to tell y'all what B Simone said. It's always been time. We always want to hear what she says. This is just funny. I don't even know if it's true, but it's so funny I'm saying it. And it's true. Let me not say that. B Simone was on live and someone asked, which would she choose? A trillion dollars or 10 minutes with Jesus? She said the money because Jesus probably wouldn't tell her nothing different than what's already in the word of God and she would waste her 10 minutes stuttering. And the internet is on her ass about it. Why? Why are they gonna have? I mean, I can see both sides of it. Why? Well, I'd like to think Jesus, if you believe in Jesus, you'd like to think you got something else to say. Like there's no remix, there's no new... Jesus is not giving you the fucking mark. I'm just saying, if I believe in Jesus and I'm like an active Christian and all of that, I'm gonna see him later on anyway. So freeze. Let me get this bread right now. We got an appointment already scheduled. I'll let you when I get up there, big dog. Let me get this bread right now though. Uh huh. Counterpoint. Is that like Jesus the genie? A genie ain't gonna make your wish come true? How you get the trillion in? I knew I should have asked this from you. I knew it. You spent ten minutes with Jesus? Yes. But you got a lot of money. You got a lot of money already. You owe your way to a trillion. I was making twenty million and I was like, yeah, I see that nigga. But like, hey, look at my man. You looked out for me. Big. Ice and quarry, I believe. What would you pick? You know what I'm picking. I don't. Pickin' the bread. Mark. I'm trying to think of a creative way to say I'll take the bread. But I'll take the bread. Cash me out, big dog. Say it loud! I'm black and I'm... Hey! I'm gonna be tap dancing out of heaven. This is like Lutron JV. I shouldn't even ask you, right? I'm asking. I mean, what you think? Bro, what you... I'm saying like, is it obvious that you would pick the money? I wouldn't take the money. Oh, God. That's what your friends... I wasn't rude against them. Okay, awesome. What's your reason? You need a reason to say that? We gave our reason to take the trillion. If you really got faith in God and you really believe that God got you, then you can make the money. If you really believe God got you, why you didn't see him face to face? So that I could talk to him. About what? What y'all gonna talk about? That you can't talk to him when he's not there. You're talking to God every night in prayer. You said you pray every day? I do. How you pray, Esh? But you feel like... Nigga, I heard you. You've been asking for money. I sent you a trillion dollars. I sent you a trillion dollars and your dumb ass came here to see me. You still came to see me. That was my gift. Mark, you would pick a trillion dollars over being able to have a ten minute conversation with Allah? Yes. You can say it slow. You can say it dramatic. You can change the name. You can change the name. You can put all of them together. I'm still gonna take the money. Mark too, he ain't gonna beat them. That's fine. Mark could be a whole conference. I'm taking the money. I have a relationship with God already. Jesus, Allah. It's a long distance, what are we giving? It's a no praying and thanksgiving thing. Maybe it's not a big deal. Come on, bro. I'm just saying, I could change my entire family's... Change couple of families. Like God could. He gave me the trill. He gave me the trillion. Come on, stop. God's plan. Anybody that picks the money can't really believe in the higher power. I disagree. I think anybody that picks the conversation doesn't believe in the higher power. Why is it here? You have a relationship with the higher power. You've already talked to him. I've spoken to him. All the time. That would be ignorant of me to think that he's not listening. And I need some reassert. But this question is not saying you can talk to God and he's listening. This question is saying you get to have a 10 minute back and forth conversation with God. That's what it says. I've got that many questions. The question is how can I get a trillion now? But you could ask that and have nine more minutes and 45 more seconds to get more shit. I think I could change the world a lot more. Whatever it says, it says work with the money that I could with the time. Keep at it, God. I don't think that anything that God tells me the rest of civilization would believe. To each his own for everybody Mark, I'm more... Mark, I'm more taking it back than you, you're just a nigga that say don't nobody even need a billion dollars. I'd give it away. I wouldn't keep it all like Scrooge McDuck. I would take one dip in the pool though. Jumping into a pool of hard coins feels really like a bad idea. I've been watching this since I... Never sold on it. Not to be that guy. Do y'all ever think that God can hear some of this shit y'all say? I was made to... Y'all throw it all away Yes, but I was made in God's image. So God put me here to do it. You were. Yo, yes I was. No, you wasn't. You wasn't, yo. Yeah, exactly. Blame God for my sense of humor. Alright, boy. God... I'll talk to you later, man. So you talked to him already? For free. You talked to him already. Danny, talk back. But you have to believe that. If you talk back, do I need to face the face? To not pick the money. Shit. If you already talking back, I don't believe it. You ever talk to somebody on the phone? You want to see him sometimes, right? Sometimes, but they say like you're trading dollars and keep on the same on his phone? I can't believe that this whole room sans ish. I'd have been wrong. If somebody would have bet me a million dollars. Or trillion. Well, I wouldn't have took the bet. But I would have never guessed that itch would be down with me in the rest of the room. Paul, what about you? Yo, this poor... What the fuck? Your viewer, God is in the money. That nigga take him away. You all can see the face of money just made. I wish you all could see the face of money made. He disrespected that Joe even asking him. I thought he would have said it. Read my brother. No. I saw him. He good. He's good. I saw him. He's good. He's crazy. It's over, Joe. You were ish by yourselves, like back in the days. Yeah. Runnin' to man. Hopefully not. Oh, yeah. It's not even just your pick. It's like you're proud of it. They happy. Yeah. It's not real. Go ahead and say it. What else ain't real? I can touch his money though. I can touch his money though. Flip, do you believe in I am power? I do. Mark? Sure. Okay, we can move on. We got it. We got it. We got it. No, Sean, yes, we did it. We did it. You don't believe mine? Damn. You don't, you converted Mark's. That's what I'm saying. All this fucking... You believe in me? Yeah, sure. Is that a conversation I have on podcast? What I say is how I understand... Well, then yes, you shouldn't be a thing that you say on podcast with that little smug-ass voice. Oh, that was a joke. I was lobbing it up for Corey. Corey's not on... You know what? I don't think religion does well on podcast because you don't have a chance to actually expand. But what I would say is how I understand and conceptualize God is more complicated than other people. So the idea even of having a one-on-one conversation like it's a king on a throne for me is something I don't believe. So it's hard for me to choose that over something that's material. You believe all man is God? That's what I... I don't conceptualize God that way. That's more what it is, but that's a complicated conversation. Okay, okay. But also, sorry, brother. Also, I want that. Okay. $1 trillion. You know what's so crazy? He talk about anything else, but when it comes to religion, that nigga... There's a lot of personal stuff I don't talk about. It ain't got to be a trillion. It ain't got to be a trillion. Fuck it ain't got to be a trillion. Stupid me through that commercial I told you we were running a lot of Sunday morning airtime. Yo, I'm going to change the next time. I'm going to take this out. I got to use your fix. Oh my God. It's a million cash right now. Yes. 10 minute conversation. $100,000. Nigga. Yo, tell these niggas, yo. It's flat, right? A million hold on. No dickhead. Joe was really disgusted. I am, bro. Recently y'all said a bunch to make me disgusted. That's wrong. I'm sure y'all are disgusted. Yes you can. Yes you can be disgusted at some of your friends. Yes you can. We discussed each other all the time. Not by your personal belief nigga. It don't change anything about our relationship. It don't change nothing. I can just be like damn this nigga really think that. That's pretty not getting serious. But you know why picking the money is stupid. Alright, so you pick the money and then God dead your whole family. Or not though. You saying that's the other alternative. Or you had a conversation with God and you have a 10 minute conversation with God and he showed you how to be abundant in all these other areas outside of finance. Then what? Damn! You mother... And these are white couches. And what are you drinking? Coffee? Some shit is staying. Holy water. Something at the tide pen. Holy water. Wow. Alright. You know what? I don't have this trick. I say religion is the biggest thing in my life. It's been a good 3 and a half hours. I ain't doing it. Is that a 3? 3 and a half hours. 3 and almost 4. I had a bus at about 3.30 right now. We was cooking. You're on God's. You man hurt by that look. He was mad about the things. I was a fried man. No. It was a classic scene. I was filming in Chinatown getting a lot of money. Yeah. The not brain on things, over the Thanksgiving food. I could understand it. But this is a little judgment. What decisions certain people made in the voting booth. Your world but that comes with a little judgment. Especially that Trumper. I think this one is kind of worse. Is the conversation with Jesus a God? This one is Trump's own. You said Jesus first. You did. Let me read it. We don't have to clean it up. Clean it up. To his feelings. If they can't let this change. The opinions will still be the same. I'm still going to take the money. But it is important. It is very important. But still. Jesus is still going to. They're going to still. I don't listen to nothing. I don't hear him. Nothing in this. You already heard. Because he go too far. You all understand? I heard my man feel the stop. See? I fully understand how a Cory doesn't have a mic. I didn't understand what the first guy was. Now I get it. Now I get it. What a show though. Play take me to the king. Take me to the king. Take me to the king. He played that shit. Don't play no games. Don't disrespect. Come on man. He's bothered. He's fucking making faces to himself. It's alright bro. We love you. Just turn the comments off for a couple of days. That's all. I don't think it's AD man. They don't matter. You know how it goes. Don't make this shit. They pay. How do you think how they send them the shit? It's Wednesday now. They got Super Bowl eyes. Damn sure. They're gonna fry us up. For they know not what they do. Sure. Yeah. It's really. Surprise that you broke. I just thought of a nice little comedy series. The niggas picking the trillion dollars. And then God just fucking with them. Put the rest in the F. Are you like handicap girls huh? Hatshaw. Go ahead open it. Oh my lord. Oh my god. Yes sir. Good episode. This is good. Good job. Good job. Get out of here. He give me a pass to my good episode. Watch your fucking mouth nigga. Every episode I'm on we good. Alright gone live flip went crazy. That's the... Yo listen I'm here to support baby. I'm in my life. I'm here to support man. I got something for you. I bought some of these. I love you man. I'm still slapping you though if you don't come on your birthday. We doing a surprise for you. He don't expect it. I choked the shit out of him. They need it bro. I was going to tell you the place. I can't even hear Todd Dalla sound right around these niggas. I got it. No for real. Honestly though. Come on boy. Everybody thinks it's different brother. Like y'all should have just lied. God can hear y'all. Y'all about to lose favor over a hypothetical from the Graham. We love God. You about to be stuck in Chinatown tunnels. No no no. Because you want to play. But I was just lying. God know my heart. You. You're up there getting me all crazy. Don't worry about it. Moment of silence for my goals. It's snowing outside. I'm getting home safe. That's a fact. That's a fact. I live right up there niggas. I just changed these tires. They were in the tails man. That's a deep hill. You better not crash. You're going to be like Cartoon. I don't remember a cliff being here. Oh. They going over and saying hey I chose God. Why am I crashing? Why are y'all talking like this? Mike I don't want to. We got to go home. Look at your man. Don't do that. Wish no. But sometimes I don't even say things I think. Because it would be an inopportune time to die. Right after I said that. If you say everything that you think. You don't want to miss your time. Cory be having to say your thing. If you believe in him. And that was determined before you got here. Listen don't talk over here. I am his. It doesn't matter what I do. Hey. A real good song. He's only his means. For who I am. Does anybody know that tonight? Oh. Shout out to y'all out there man. Hopefully y'all enjoyed this episode as much as we enjoyed delivering it to you. Keep us in your prayers some of us. Keep me in your prayers at least. The rest of these niggas I pray they get a buck. Hit the lotto. That's crazy. Oh lord knows we need it. Until the next time. We bid you adieu. Farewell. Hasta la vista. Au revoir. It doesn't matter what I do. Hey. He only sees me for who I am. He only sees me for who I am. I am gonna be a fool. He's my god. He's my god. I am his. I am his. I am his. I am his. I am his. I am his. I am his. I am his. I am his. I am his. I am his. I am his. I am his. I am his. I am his. Those minded women want you to teach them things. Grab your Italian law. There you go. He's so disgusted with us. He don't want to know what we doing. He don't want to know what we doing this week. He's so disgusted. Yeah, he gives a fuck what you're doing. He knows you see us. Yeah, he knows what I want. He's the one. Yeah, he knows what I want. Yeah, he knows what I want. So next time we'll be back on Friday. St. John's St. Place Saturday for y'all. Actually, it might be Friday. He's on the best in me. No, no, no. Man, he didn't see the best in y'all. Look at y'all. Oh, wait, we ended it. We out of here, man. Y'all hold it down, man. St. John's St. Place this weekend. Throw the leftovers in the fridge. This ain't helping me, St. John. Y'all hold it down. Praying for anybody that might be going through it. Inside and outside the pod. Anybody fighting a silent battle. Anybody with loved ones, you got to take care of people getting sick. Health as well, please. Can I ask y'all one question? The question is simply this. What did he see? He saw the best. I can't get no help of it here. Now you're about to kill us, you have to pray for it. Some people have wrote you off. Said you would never amount to anything. Said that you would never end up being anywhere. But, Myron, tell them one more time. What did he see? He saw the best. Hey. When mama said you would never be nothing. When auntie's and uncle said that you would never amount to anything. When daddy didn't come home anymore. He said, you would never be anything. When mama said you would never be anything. He didn't come home anymore. He didn't look at you and say that you were going to make it. God looked at you and what did he see? What did he see? He saw the best. Yaggy! Is there anybody here tonight that's so very thankful that God did that right to you all? That he did not throw you away? That he picked you up? Ah, hey, he saw. He saw the best. He saw the best. He saw the best. 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