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RFK Gets Carnivorous in New Food Pyramid & Hegseth Is Accused of Perfidy War Crime | Joachim Trier

33 min
Jan 14, 20265 months ago
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Summary

The Daily Show covers controversies involving Trump administration officials including Pete Hegseth's alleged war crimes, RFK Jr.'s new food pyramid emphasizing meat and dairy, and Labor Secretary Laurie Chavez Jaremer's investigation. The episode also features director Joachim Trier discussing his film 'Sentimental Value' and commentary on MLK Day being removed from federal park benefits.

Insights
  • Trump administration officials face multiple ethical and legal controversies simultaneously, suggesting systemic governance issues rather than isolated incidents
  • RFK Jr.'s health guidelines show potential conflicts of interest with half his team having financial ties to beef, pork, or dairy industries
  • Conservative political figures are increasingly using explicit racist rhetoric rather than coded language, representing a shift in public discourse norms
  • Federal benefits tied to cultural observances (MLK Day, Juneteenth) are being systematically removed, indicating broader policy shifts on diversity initiatives
  • Elon Musk's AI tools are being weaponized for non-consensual content creation, highlighting inadequate safeguards in rapidly deployed AI systems
Trends
Erosion of federal holiday recognition for civil rights figures and observancesConflicts of interest in health policy driven by industry financial tiesMainstreaming of explicit racist rhetoric in political discourseAI safety failures in commercial products enabling harmful content generationAccountability gaps for cabinet-level officials accused of misconductWeaponization of AI image generation for non-consensual intimate contentRemoval of diversity-focused federal benefits and programsNormalization of multiple simultaneous scandals in government leadership
Topics
War crimes allegations against Defense SecretaryRFK Jr. health policy and food pyramid guidelinesConflicts of interest in federal health departmentAI safety and non-consensual deepfake contentMLK Day federal holiday removal from park benefitsRacist rhetoric in Trump administrationCabinet member misconduct investigationsFederal employee conduct standardsDiversity initiative rollbacksAI content moderation failuresHealth policy industry influenceCivil rights observance eliminationGovernment accountability mechanismsElon Musk's X platform governance
Companies
X (formerly Twitter)
Elon Musk's platform where Grock AI tool is generating non-consensual sexualized deepfake images
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People
Pete Hegseth
Accused of war crimes including bombing civilians and using disguised military aircraft in attacks
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Introduced new food pyramid guidelines emphasizing meat and dairy with team members having industry financial ties
Laurie Chavez Jaremer
Under internal investigation for inappropriate relationship with subordinate and drinking in office
Elon Musk
His AI tool Grock is being used to create non-consensual sexualized deepfake images at scale
Joachim Trier
Guest discussing his critically acclaimed film 'Sentimental Value' and approach to directing actors
Jordan Clappers
Host of the episode providing satirical commentary on political and cultural issues
Charlemagne the God
Provides opinion segment on MLK Day removal from federal park benefits and racist rhetoric
Ronald Reagan
Referenced for reluctantly signing MLK Day into law in 1983 with visible resistance
Quotes
"My man did a war crime triple double. They are going to hang his jersey up in the rafters next to Henry Kissinger's glasses."
Jordan ClappersOpening segment on Pete Hegseth
"We have the world's most powerful computers and this is what we're doing with them."
Jordan ClappersGrock AI deepfake segment
"Magga conservatives have traded in their dog whistle for a racism bullhorn."
Charlemagne the GodMLK Day commentary
"I think what I'm trying to do here is to give also a platform for actors to explore something, take some risks."
Joachim TrierInterview segment
"The world is complicated right now, for many reasons, political reasons, on societal levels in many countries."
Joachim TrierInterview on film themes
Full Transcript
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Now, he's been accused of committing war crimes by droning boats up and down the Venezuelan coast. And yesterday he was accused of an entirely new war crime. So I hate to ask, what is it? A war crime called perfidy. Perfidy? Is that where we're at with this administration? That we're studying up on the B side war crimes? I mean, why do I feel like the Trump people got a crime of the day calendar and they're just trying to do them all? Alright, alright, okay. So what is this terrible thing that we are apparently engaged in? Perfidy, which prevents combatants from intentionally fooling adversaries into believing they're civilians. The aircraft used in the attack on September 2nd was painted to look like a civilian plane. Okay, alright, so if you're keeping track, not only did Pete Hexeth bomb people he was supposed to arrest, he then bombed their wreckage again and he did it with a disguised military plane. My man did a war crime triple double. They are going to hang his jersey up in the rafters next to Henry Kissinger's glasses. Moving on to another person that's been dipping his toe back into the worst wing, Elon Musk. Now, he's back in the news right now because his AI Grock is in a bit of a controversy. The good news, it's not Hitler's stuff this time. The bad news is, what's replaced it? Tonight, Grock, the AI tool from Elon Musk's company X, is under fire. The app, which has an image editing feature, is now being used to create non-consensual and sexualized deep-baked images. Grock was producing at least a dozen inappropriate images every minute. People were commanding the chatbot to take people's clothes off, basically. Wow, okay. This is a tough one. On one hand, you are violating the consent of women around the world. But on the other hand, where else are you going to find pictures of naked ladies online? We have the world's most powerful computers and this is what we're doing with them. I mean, when the printing press came out, where monks like, okay, we'll get to the Gutenberg Bible. But first, let's make 40 copies of Gregor's ass cheeks, all right? Get on it. I mean, is every Trump cabinet member spending their whole day actively destroying the country? I mean, I don't even want to check in with the, I don't know, the labor secretary. Labor secretary, Laurie Chavez Jaremer is under an internal investigation. Of course! Of course you're under investigation. What are you? Are you crushing unions? Are you bringing back child labor? Are you declaring paternity leave kind of gay? What is it? What terrible thing is it? They complain alleges she pursued an inappropriate relationship with the subordinate, including several visits to an apartment and hotel rooms while traveling. That's it? An inappropriate relationship? Hell, the f***ing Luiya! That's not evil! That's not even perfid-y! Or what have you. That's the kind of throwback scandal we had in the 90s. Kawebunga, dude, you know? Come on, tell me more! The complain alleges drinking in the office during the workday, including a reported stash of champagne, bourbon and kalua. Okay. Kalua, huh? I mean, you're a cabinet secretary. You're not a college freshman building up the courage to lose your virginity in a frat party. You know what? You have disgraced your office with your alleged personal conduct. And let me just say, thank you. It is such a relief to have a scandal based on a Trump official not doing their job, instead of doing an evil job too well. But let's move on from people accused of having affairs to something completely different. Health Secretary RFK Jr. The man with a face for radio and a voice for closed captioning. And now... now... Yes, now RFK Jr. He's telling you what to eat and drink if you want to be just as healthy as him. At a White House briefing, Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. introduced new guidelines that emphasize eating proteins, fresh vegetables, dairy products and whole grains, while cutting back on processed foods and added sugar. On alcohol, Americans should limit consumption. In the best case scenario, I don't think you should drink alcohol. Ah, great news. We're not in the best case scenario right now. No. No. That's not where we are. No. If we were in the best case scenario, our health wouldn't be in the hands of a man who looks like a 1930s basketball. So, if you'll excuse me, Secretary Laurie and I will keep pounding those white Russians. Thank you very much. But okay. Alright, so lots of protein, full fat dairy and alcohol if you're keeping up with the news. And I'm assuming there's a simple logical graphic to help understand the new recommendations. See the food pyramid here? It's upside down. A lot of you know what I'm saying. It was actually upside down before and we just righted it. He sounds healthy. Real healthy, yeah. No, you know what? I'm pretty sure this one is upside down unless I'm misremembering every pyramid photo I've ever seen. Don't worry. Don't worry about the confusing food pyramid because the health department is also spreading the word with the most dynamic, charismatic spokesman they could find. Three cheers for whole milk. Good stuff. Yeah. This is going to get the kids to drink milk. Timothy Shalamey, yawn. Kaisenat, pass. Oh shit, is that former HUD secretary Ben Carson? Sign me up. Also, you're making Ben Carson drink a glass of milk? The drink that famously helps us fall asleep at night? Are you insane? If Ben Carson gets any sleepier, he could die. You know what? I'm sure the guidelines to eat more meat and dairy is based on the best possible science and nothing else. We should note, of the ten people on Kennedy's team, half reported financial ties to the beef, pork, or dairy industries. Wow. Wow. You know what? In any other administration, I'd say half of the team had financial ties. But with the Trump administration, I'd say, wow, only half had financial ties. You know what? That's three cheers of whole milk. Good stuff. Good stuff. For more on RFK Junior's revamped food pyramid, we go live to the Department of Health with Troy Iwata. Troy! Troy! So, what's the latest? Jordan, health officials here are very excited. With the pyramid this easy to read, Americans should be lean and fit just in time for the coming race war. I'll tell you, I'm surprised to hear that. I found the new food pyramid a little confusing. What's confusing about it? You just eat more healthy foods at the top of the pyramid, like fruit, and then avoid unhealthy foods at the bottom of the pyramid, you know, like fruit. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I mean. I can't even tell what the bottom or the top is. Oh, God. Okay, Jordan, I can't keep explaining tops and bottoms to you. Listen, how many times do I have to say it? You'd understand if you just watched heated rivalry. Oh, look, I'm just saying they could make the pyramids less confusing. Oh, okay. All right. So the pyramid's not working for you. You want something different? Yeah, maybe like a different shape. A different wonder of the world. I got it. Okay, well, you're in luck. Health officials have also released the food Taj Mahal. Again, again, it's very simple to read foods serving as minaret structures. They should be eaten in moderation. You want to focus on the foods in the finials, Iwans, and the high-pitched talk. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. What the hell is the high-pitched talk? Again, Jordan, you really have to watch heated rivalry. No, look. No, the go to the Taj Mahal and heated rivalry? God, where don't they go? No, look, no, look, can you bring that graphic up again? Did Fruit Loops lobby for this chart? Why is Toucan Sam in the picture? Okay, first of all, it's Dr. Toucan Sam. And she is in the photo because she specializes in nutrition, and she also donated $10 million to Trump's ballroom. Okay, I'm going to be honest. I find the food Taj Mahal extremely hard to understand. Okay, okay, well, they did make some other charts for remedial children that you'll probably like. This is called the food spiral. Okay, so each curve alternates a health food and an unhealthy food. The tighter the spiral, the worse the food, unless the spiral is counterclockwise. No, I'm confused and I'm dizzy now. Why do the words milk meat keep flashing? To remind everyone to have their milk meat. I'm sorry, all of these visuals are terrible. Okay, well, maybe you're just not a visual learner. Would you like to hear some of the new FDA nutrition recommendation riddles? What in God's name is a nutrition recommendation riddle? Here's one. It's my favorite. Eat this food yum yum yum. Put it in your tum tum tum. That's not a riddle. That could describe every food. Wrong, wrong. The answer is obviously milk meat. What is milk meat? Jordan, go watch heated rivalry. Okay, Jordan. Jordan, what, everyone? We come back. Jordan and the God give us his opinion. Don't go away. Ready to launch your business? Get started with the commerce platform made for entrepreneurs. Shopify is specially designed to help you start, run and grow your business with easy customizable themes that let you build your brand. Marketing tools that get your products out there. Integrated shipping solutions that actually save you time from startups to scale-ups, online, in-person and on-the-go. Shopify is made for entrepreneurs like you. Sign up for your $1 a month trial at Shopify.com. Welcome back to The Daily Show. We all know I've got great opinions, but I'm not the only one. Studies show that other people also have opinions. So, here with another installment of In My Opinion is our good friend, Charlemagne the God. Hello, hello, hello. Martin Luther King, Jr. Day is right around the corner, which means two things. One, if Al Sharpton sees his shadow, six more weeks of winter. That's right. And two, we're about to get the worst party fly as you've ever seen. That's real, by the way, okay? And the party wasn't nearly as fun as they made it look. Personally, I'm going to be celebrating it like it's the last MLK day because the way things are going, it might be. NBC News has learned that the Defense Intelligence Agency has ordered a pause on all events related to MLK Day or Black History Month. National Park Service will no longer offer free admission on Martin Luther King, Jr. Day nor on Juneteenth. That's right. The national parks are going from free at last, free at last. The bitch better have my money. And I know some white people out there are like, why do you care? Black people don't go camping. First of all, that's racist, okay? And second, you're correct. But when white people go get a free day in the parks, we finally get to experience what it's like to be in an empty Whole Foods. Okay? What I'm worried about is that this backsliding on MLK Day is just the first step toward getting rid of it altogether. Because if you don't know, it was a hard fight to get the national holiday in the first place. It took 15 years after Dr. King's death to become a law. And some of you may be thinking 15 years, but that I'm just a bill song only took three minutes. Yeah, because he was a white bill, all right? They never told you that he was a bill to re-segregate golf courses. And you should see that bill's friend. Dool's been waiting on the Capitol steps for 20 years. And when Ronald Reagan was finally pressing in the signing of the bill in 1983, you could tell he was a little salty about it. Just two weeks ago, Mr. Reagan said he would have liked an unofficial holiday. I would have preferred that. But since they seem bent on making it a national holiday, I believe the symbolism of that day is important enough that I would assign that legislation when it reaches my desk. Yeah, that's the tone of voice that means fine, have your little holiday, okay? I'll tell the CIA to gift wrap some crackers a present. No wonder Reagan got all the time. He was like, I'll make it a holiday, but I want to forget that shit immediately. But even if Reagan caved a lot of Republicans out of dream, that one day they could turn people against Dr. King, and that dream still lives on. Racist text messages allegedly sent by President Trump's handpicked nominee to lead the office of special counsel. One from January of last year, quote, MLK Jr. was the 1960s, yours, Floyd, and his holiday should be ended and tossed into the seventh circle of hell where it belongs. Martin Luther King Jr., whose whole life was a diddy party. Orges and smoking and fighting and whipping up on women. Martin Luther King Jr., make a diddy party look like a Catholic convent school. Lord have mercy. White people, if that guy is your one black friend, it does not count, okay? A diddy party? Like whatever his faults, Dr. King wasn't diddy by any stretch. But also, if diddy manages to pass the Civil Rights Act, I'd let a few things slide. Not the domestic violence, but a thousand bottles of baby oil, sure. That bill would have slid right through Congress, right? The surprising thing about the rights defamation of MLK is just how unsurprising it is. Magga conservatives have traded in their dog whistle for a racism bullhorn. Elon Musk endorses a post on X, calling for quote, white solidarity. White men are better at all of these tasks than the allegedly underprivileged communities that are replacing them. Blacks need to be imprisoned for the most part, and we would live in paradise. It's that simple. It's literally that simple. Yeah, I'm sorry, but when I hear pure, unadulterated racism like that, you know, as a man from South Carolina, it just makes me a little homesick, all right? I mean, they cooked up that hate speech just like Muskrom, Thurman used to make it, all right? And even if you called him out on it, these races have friends in high places. In the United States of America, you don't have to apologize for being white anymore. When the f*** have white people ever apologized for being white, okay? What we talking about? Come on, man. White people barely apologized for being black on Halloween. The only sorry I've ever gotten from a white person was, oh, sorry, I thought you worked here, all right? But there's still one reason to have hope that we can preserve MLK Day, because all of us, regardless of race, color, or creed, enjoy that sweet three-day weekend, all right? And if MLK Day goes away, what are they going to replace it with? Congresswoman Claudia Tenney of New York introduced legislation to make Trump's birthday a federal holiday. You gotta be kidding me. Yeah. Yeah, replacing MLK Day with a holiday honoring Trump would be insulting, racist, and unnecessary. But you know what? A day off is a day off, okay? I mean, f*** it, we've all seen Trump's face. We'll call it prune teeth, all right? But hey, that's just my opinion. Show them of the gun, everybody. When we come back, Yo-Kim Thrier will be joining me on the show. Don't go away. Welcome back to The Daily Show. My guest tonight is an award-winning director and screenwriter whose latest critically acclaimed film is called Sentimental Value. Please welcome Yo-Kim Thrier. Good. Welcome. Thank you. Let me tell you, first of all, congratulations. It's a wonderful film. Thank you. Getting many accolades. You just came back from the Golden Globes, where Stella and Skarsgard just won a Golden Globe for best actor in your film, correct? Yes, we're so proud of him. That is amazing. It's curious, in watching this film, knowing a little bit about your background, you came up skateboarding, making skateboarding films. And I watched this movie, and Stella and Skarsgard did zero olleys in it. Like, no nut punches, no nut anything. Did I miss something? You lost your edge? What was going on there? Mental nut punches. I think what I'm trying to do here is to give also a platform for actors to explore something, take some risks. I started doing a lot of skate videos when I was a kid. That's what I did. I stood next to a handrail and saw my friends try some crazy stuff and maybe halfway break their neck or land on their feet. And in a weird way, it's still the same thing I'm trying to do with actors. Have them do something risky and see if they land on their feet. What does that look like? Is that happening in a rehearsal process? It's interesting if you watch the film, because you're also watching a director who's coaxing an actor at the time. Is that reflective of your experience working with those actors there? So just to be clear, Stella and Skarsgard, who in real life is a really nice and kind man, plays a bit of an asshole director, a bit of a difficult father character. So I'm trying not to be him when I'm directing. But he's also a good director in the film. But no, the process of that performance thing is, I guess, first of all cast right. Find people you trust. Then give them an opportunity to do their thing and give them some rehearsal time to get to know each other and be safe. And it's all about trust to me. What's the set like for you? Is it an intimate set, similar to the ones we saw in the film? Yeah, it is. It's the mixed energy. When the actors are present, we try to make it really soft for them, for their individual needs. But when they leave, I tell them a team, it's like changing tires on the Formula One car. That's to be very quick. It's very expensive to make movies. And in Norway, we don't have an endless budget. So we've got to be really effective about it. Well, you're telling a story of a director who is an acclaimed director who has family issues. As an acclaimed director, do you have to tell your family not to read into this? It was interesting to show it to my family, because I come from a film family, too. My grandfather was a film director. Both my parents worked with movies. My brother is a documentary director. So, yeah, when they saw it, they were laughing. My younger sister said to me, it's like you've taken a lot of elements that I recognized and put them in a blender. And you're not throwing anyone under the bus, but I see it's you. She also wants her cut, right? Exactly. The family cut. It's a people, it's when people are talking about this film, and I felt it as well. It's a very, it's a very tender film, which feels bold in this day and age, which we sort of live in this, this age of irony where you don't see that in film so often. Is that a Norwegian thing? Is that, is that, is that an intention? Did you want to bring something that felt softer into the marketplace? When you say marketplace, yes, I guess. But no, I think honestly, yeah, the world is complicated right now, for many reasons, political reasons, on societal levels in many countries. And I just have, because I have small children, also have this yearning for some hope and that there could also be a place in art to see the other, you know, and not necessarily make polarized stories that deal only with antagonists and stuff like that. I try to understand people in the movies I make, even though this is a family story. It's about two adult women, two sisters, who are trying to reconcile their relationship to their father and how they deal very differently with it. And through that, I wanted to make, you know, a friend of mine said the other day, which I was very happy about, you kind of made a happy ending for once, Joachim, but it's not cheesy. And I felt kind of off the hook there. We're trying to do something about the baby steps in a family where, you know, it's, it's all the stuff we don't know how to talk about. That is really at the core of the drama here. I did a special recently and I went to Oslo, Norway, and I was struck by many things about traveling to Norway, but the public sculptures in Norway are so beautiful. There's a famous sculpture park that is both hilarious, dark and funny, angry baby statues. There's a person, a V-Sland, I blame it, or like there's a father who's like catching babies that are up in the air. But also walking the streets of Oslo, I see a lot of statues that unlike in America, the statues you see here are generals or politicians who have won wars. What I saw was a lot of families. There are a lot of statues of like a mother and a daughter and it felt like culturally, I just saw art and family reflected more walking through Oslo that I see in an American landscape. Interesting. I never thought about it, but when you say it's probably true. There is this kind of, and I also think the politics are geared towards that in a good way in Norway. Norway has any place has its political problems, but what I think is good is that you actually get paid time off when you have babies and you have a guarantee of a place, a kindergarten or a childcare thing, you know, from the government and stuff like that. So it's like a communistic hellscape. Exactly, exactly. We are not allowed to speak. I've been told to say these nice things about Norway. No, no, no, it's actually the interesting thing to think about is when you pay a lot of tax like you do over here as well, that you get something back for it. Some healthcare and some childcare and you're still allowed to speak your mind in public. Isn't that interesting? Is that right? Yeah, don't tell anyone. I won't tell anyone. Is property cheap there? That's what I need to know. No, it's not. That's still complicated. The politician could work on that. Yeah, another thing you do in this film that I think is a difficult line to walk is it's a film about the industry, but it's not, it doesn't feel like it's Naval Gazy in the industry. Like it's so, I think there's a tendency with a lot of films if you're going to make a movie about making movies, there's such a reverence for making movies. I think this is dogging the profession, but I think you, I assume you had to be very careful with the ways in which you presented this so that an audience can relate to this and not just see it as the artists only caring about the things that the artists do. No, no, absolutely. I am working with a co-writer for all my six films that I've directed called Eskil Fukt. And when we realize Eskil Fukt. What's his last name? V. V, okay. Pronounce as F, not as F. Okay, V pronounces Eskil Fukt. Eskil, yes. This is, I, I, this is. Okay, so here we are. I'm f***ing moving tomorrow, okay? He's my best friend. He's my best friend. I don't want to laugh at television about his name, poor guy. He's going to give me a hard time now. Lovely man. We're sitting there, we're making this story, and we're realizing, oh, we're making it about a film group of people, like the father's the film director, Naval Gazing, yes. Shameful, isn't it? So what we then try to do is to make it about family, make it about something that we really want to talk about, which is really how trauma travels through generation. And I think the only way to start forgiving one's parents is to realize they were kids once and what did they go through. And all those things where, and then we thought, oh, it's interesting because in this family, the father is making a screenplay that is offering his oldest daughter, played by Renata Rinesve, because she's an actor and she certainly don't want to work with him. And then they invite these American actors into it, played by Elle Fanning, but she's playing the role of the daughter. So that's the setup. But what it's really about is all that stuff about parents and children that we don't really have language for. So it was trying to get to family stuff through the setup of a film family. Instead of saying, oh, film people are so interesting. Of course we are, but... Don't tell everybody that. It's a movie about how do you communicate with your family. It's tender. It's loving. What Marvel movie are you going to direct next? Yeah, what's the vulnerable... Is there IP that's interesting to you? Is there a Lego? Maybe the Scrabble movie could be interesting for you? Have you thought of this yet? I think so. Wolverine Gone Soft? Wolverine Gone Soft. Well, I'll be there. I would watch it. Center Metal Value is available to rent or buy and will be returning to theaters January 25th. Joachim Treer. We're going to take a quick break right back after this. Confused with pure argan oil, just one drop. Delivers up to 100 hours of hair nourishment with the indulgent scent of a Moroccan garden. Herbal Essences new Moroccan argan oil elixir. Spa quality hair repair without the price tag. Try it now. Herbal Essences. Service repair to smoothness nourishment with regimen use versus non-conditioning shampoo. Ready to launch your business? Shopify has been started with a commerce platform made for entrepreneurs. Shopify is specially designed to help you start, run and grow your business with easy customizable themes that let you build your brand. Marketing tools that get your products out there. Integrated shipping solutions that actually save you time. 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