#632 - Dave Smith

Today's guest is a comedian. He's a political commentator. He's a podcaster. You may know him from his show's part of the problem and Legion of skanks. I caught up with him last time about a year ago. So I'm Grateful for his return. Today's guest is Dave Smith You two brother. Yeah, we need a canister that'll be fun. Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. Yeah, kids are so funny Dude. Yeah, I bet instead of playing high and go see if they'll play like who did who killed Charlie So that's the craziest thing about About canisters kids like kids are talking about Egyptian military planes and shit Yeah, like it instead of pin the tail don't be there like it's like pin the small wiener on the macron Like yeah, they just have a different kind of like I mean, yeah, she's Their kids are beautiful. Sorry. Let me just turn this off. They're beautiful children. Uh I talk I ain't have talked about them a lot of the star. I feel like it's like a little I'm like, dude, do not bring up that lady's kids again well, and I don't I've never got to see mixed children up close that much like I just don't get it You know, I've never had that kind of opportunity Really? Yeah, you didn't grow up with like mixed race kids. Yeah, they had to mix race But a lot of them the dad was gone or something so I mean that's okay mixed race. Yeah, that's true So one of the parents was going on yeah, I don't want to just blame it on the day But one of the parents is gone, but um, yeah, I guess so Yeah, I guess I haven't seen where both the parents are around and it's like this functioning like type of thing. Yeah, okay now that makes sense mixed race functioning families those are those are rare Function like something that could create a bin Simmons Yeah, that's true. I didn't see too much of that. You know, weirdly, I knew um now that I'm thinking about it I knew black kids who had a full family together, but all the mixed race kids that I'm thinking of didn't have dads hmm Well, I think it's an into you know At when we were kids, it was probably a tough. I don't know if people were super geeked in some areas on like racial pleasure by racial parents living together or interracial relationships. I remember um We had a bus driver. It's called a millford was his name and he Like he had a lot he'd done a lot of things wrong and one shouldn't have been driving children and Anyway, he wouldn't have knocking up the lagity that swept his bus out He knocked up the lead it swept out the bus who was a black woman can't say just just on that yeah impressive Yeah, that's an impressive thing to be a school bus driver and to just pull the black chick who's sweeping up your bus Like that's just a that's a good place to start from to get laid you just as a dude you have to respect that Yeah, shout out millford and he was a ginger too, and this is a time and the science wasn't even there on them Yeah You know there was at a black chick to like go back to her black friends and tell him she just she just fucked a ginger bus to school bus driver like that's That's crazy Well, they probably thought she was coming up At that time it's different times right but you girl. Yeah, okay, Sean. He getting Irish Okay But the crazy the crazy The craziest part was uh Yeah, I guess I could have seen him he's up there and he's like just having a cigarette or having a dip or something after After a driver a haul or whatever they would call it what do they call that a haul? I think they would call it a haul your haul in the kids to school my route probably I think so yeah, they're your route after driving my route and um And he heard that broom start going in the back of that bus and he's got him It starts scratching his crotch a little or some who knows brother that's love Hey, love can strike that's the craziest thing about love like love doesn't he know any boundaries between races or anything yeah, and it's uh it is at least to some degree in involuntary Reaction like you don't really get to choose you know what I mean like it kind of just happens to you And then you're like ah shit. We love this check now. Yeah, that's the tough That's the toughest part and sometimes you don't find out till later kind of you realize that you were just kind of messing it up You know, mm-hmm. Yeah Yeah, no, I know what you mean I had that with um But with my wife and with both my kids in a weird way where it's almost like I remember having moments It's like you start realizing how deep you are in I remember having this one moment with my daughter. I think she was she must have been like four months old So like I'd been a dad for a while And I just have it like my my wife was like running the supermarket And I was just like bouncing around my knee or whatever as she just I don't know she looks like y'all Or like looked at me in some way and I remember just having this realization where I was like oh Oh, shit Like I love this little baby And then I just started having this panic attack like I was like something bad's gonna happen to her one day Like something you know like no one gets through life without something bad Happening to them and I was like oh my god Like I have to deal with that. I was just like nothing happened And I had already been in love with it. It's just like it just hit me. Yeah, like oh crap I'm in real trouble here. I'm in for the scale Yeah, and I still am yeah, that's great dude one more year and then she's on her own But I'm still I'm still in yeah, I guess that fought like is a father daughter love different than a father son Of do you have each gender child? I got one of each and yeah, it's different. It is Well, it's like a different I definitely like like my wife points it out a lot and I notice it too But I'm definitely harder on the boy than I am on her like there's just kind of a natural thing where you're just a little bit more like You just have a more of a thing like you know your daughter when my daughter's three if she like falls I'm like oh sweetheart are you okay with my son? I'm like come on you're tough Get up you know, and I mean like you just have a little bit more of that and I definitely have more of like um I feel like more of a pressure To be like a role model for my son that I don't feel for my daughter. It's a wife job Yeah, and and also my wife's awesome. She's like she's really sweet and smart and she's a great person And so I always kind of felt like with my daughter I was like oh well she's already got an awesome role model, you know, and like my job is just like to lover and to provide and protect our and stuff But with my son I was like oh, I got to teach him how to be a man And you're like all right. I better figure out how to be a man real quick. Yeah, so I could teach him You know like I don't know what that means um and it's just like there's a lot more stuff with having a son as it uh it made me Understands Not having a father better in a way. You're like oh, I get there was supposed to be this here that there wasn't you know and um And so yeah, it is totally different like there's a there's a different thing like I haven't a little girl like you just like you like I was just like she has me wrapped around her little finger She knows it she always has my son. It's a whole different thing um I mean, so I love them both equally You know, it's not like more than the other is a different a different type of you know, just never thought about it I never thought about it from like um Yeah, I guess he yet like the mom would probably be more the role model for the daughter I mean obviously there's a father daughter relationship, but then um, but the mom would be more the role model I think I'm Like I'm the role model of what her expectation for a man is gonna be yeah, I think about that a lot You know what I mean? I think about that like the way I treat my wife in front of her and stuff like that Like I'm like I always want to make sure that she you know You know her expectation is that a guy would be really sweet to her and you know stuff like that Um no, but with your boy. You're like oh, I'm the one. He's gonna be like Trying to be like now. You're like oh, man. That's a whole pressure Don't be like me. Yeah, you see one time being like you and you're like oh Yeah, right. He's just vaping in the yard I'm off the vapes. I don't vape anybody boy dude. I'm off three I might be off almost a month right now. I can't even believe you're smoking or vaping. I was vaping. Yeah I can scare to that shit man. I did it for so many years too Yeah, oh, I'm so ed risk adverse right now when it comes to vaping. I won't even like any Smokes tax I wouldn't even fly in a new work right now like just because just the idea that there's some smokestacks in the distance Like anything could could Set me off. Yeah, you well you want to get through that that beginning time for sure And I'm getting close so I can kind of feel that we're like it doesn't even pop into my head The toughest parts are like if I'm having a conversation in my car and I'm driving That's kind of the time I would like it and then that's also the time where I'm most able to go get one Because I'm like I'm in trains right right. Yeah, yeah, I'm picking one up so Yeah, I know what you mean. Well as you get older too like all those the health things get scarier Because it's not so like way off in the future anymore. You're like oh, so you're like oh, but you got to spoke for 30 years before That does you're like I'm at 30 years. You're like oh, all right. Oh shoot. All right What is a different thing when you're 15 you're like yeah in 30 years. There's a problem. Whatever who cares I would net what it would smoke for 30 years. That's you tell yourself a 15 yeah, right? And then you go if I make it another 30 years, that's fine like I've had plenty of life Actually, then you're 45 and you're like oh 50 whatever look. I got a raw fire That's when it gets weird dude. Everything's getting weird man Dave Smith good to see you bro. Yeah, dude you two man. Thanks for having me. Yeah, we met up around this time last year Yeah, that's right. Yeah As we said it's funny that we set this up like really quickly And they snuck in a regime change war in between when you said it's 48 hours we planned this And they fit a whole regime change in that 48 hours. Well, it's good to know that they're making them faster Here we are and it's happened man the crazy did they had that the photo came out of Maduro and his wife. I guess they picked him up Well the the US plans to run Venezuela and tap its old reserves Trump says after operation to Aus Maduro what were the actual um Hours after audacious military operation that plucked leader Nicholas Maduro from power and moved him from the country President Donald Trump says that the United States would run Venezuela at least temporarily and tap its vast old reserves to sell to other nations At least they're being honest about that part Yeah, it makes you wonder kind of what's going on What were the exact attacks that happened? Is it say like did we go kill a bunch of people? Yeah, we definitely killed some people There were a bunch of attacks And then there was like an elite Team that went and got That was able to kidnap Maduro And I know so Mike Lee the senator posted On Twitter that he had spoke to Marco Rubio and that Marco Rubio had said something like the other attacks were like in service of The mission to get Maduro so like I don't know what that you know taken out their defenses or something like that um, but So I mean, I don't know even where to start here, right? But so there's a lot there's been Obviously for for months now There's been like they've been attacking they've been bombing the boats that they're claiming our drug Boats, but they haven't really demonstrated that they are it's kind of just taking their word for it And we don't know you to see this video you see this footage of like a black and white and then like a Zooming in of a night goggles Explosion and there was that whole controversial double tap strike where they came back to kill the survivors Which there was a big controversy about you know because that's illegal under international law You'd have to demonstrate that they were like still in the fight and then there was you know, I guess Pete Hanks that said someone else made the decision But then they claimed that they were still trying to get in the fight. It's all kind of sketchy. It's not exactly clear It's it Marco Rubio who's the secretary of state and also the national security advisor And he's had that position for most of the the last year This has been his pet project for a while He's really wanted to get rid of the the Maduro regime in Venezuela The drugs thing has always just been an obvious bullshit pretext. I mean like there's no That's what I like to make well if you just look at the numbers The the Venezuela is responsible for like a tiny fraction of the drugs that come into America and like almost none of the Fettinol And if you really had a pro you know when people look at like the OD deaths The Fettinol is really where the action is there and that's all from Mexico. Yeah from parts made in China Then even when like Donald Trump or the Vagramas Swamier or some of these guys would have real tough language about the the drug cartels on the campaign trail It was always the Mexican drug cartels They were always saying that because they could at least point to that and say look that leads to Fettinol Which leads to all these overdoses now those numbers have been going down and getting better But I think some people Uh People I love but uh some people have falsely like I Tributed that to the attacks on these these boats of the course of Venezuela when really all that is that there's a secure border now And so less of the stuff is getting in than was under Joe Biden. Oh for sure But so So then cut to what was it last week? It got uh well, I'm gonna bring it over. We're gonna go ahead. Go ahead Venezuela is involved in trafficking cocaine but current data shows it is responsible for only a small share of the drug It actually ended up in US market. That's you compare it without through Mexico and Central America US government classified as Venezuela as a major drug transit country Mainly for Colombia cocaine moving towards the Caribbean Central America But even that would be more of a justification to deal with Colombia right then it would be A 100% a DEA fact sheet cited in 2025 reporting says 90% of cocaine reaching US is produced in Colombia and enters through Mexico Without even mentioning Venezuela as a primary corridor Um Yeah, and there's some other reasons I want to go into to why people think that we're what we're doing down there Um, but yeah, I just wanted to get some of this tattoo Sure sure, but no, that's important. I'm glad you did wherever you uh will so last week if you remember um talker Carlson Had said that uh he had he had a source saying that Donald Trump his Donald Trump was addressing the nation that night And he had said that Donald Trump's going to announce you know an escalation in the war or a declaration of war Which you know technically the president can't do but I guess we're way past that yeah Um that he was going to announce that he was going in there And I had a couple I had a couple people I know who were like close to it who said the same thing Then he didn't Which was kind of strange and he also like he interrupted your regularly scheduled programming like it was a president He had just taken a nation yeah a week ago But then like didn't really announce anything I didn't just announced how great the economy was or something like that And so then it came this week Instead but this was it look. It's an unbelievably successful operation as of right now And so that's well, maybe I got that wrong it said last week I guess it was a couple weeks ago on the evening of December 16th political commentator Tucker Carlson said off of fire Strong when he claimed that president Donald Trump was poised to announce you as military invasion of Venezuela during his prime time address um But as the hour came went no such announcement materialized president Trump made no mention of it in his well in North any military operation targeting the Invaddled South American nation What if he did that because he didn't want Carlson actually have called it no it wouldn't have been that you know I don't know I mean, it's like it's I don't know It's possible that he was planning on doing it and then backed out of it. It's possible Tucker got bad information It's possible that plans just changed or whatever you know it's but but the thing did come a couple weeks later So it does at least seem like there was something that might have been you know accurate about it Um But Look, I mean, I guess first and foremost this really wasn't It incredible success just in terms of a military operation like oh I know Yeah, me too got it done and then they check made it they took the king and queen dude there's uh Well, that's right. I mean and okay, so this picture now and now it looks like he's playing one of those games of those things dropping Like Ilya Tuporio be like real good at it. You're like whoa That's how he knocks people out like that. He's got crazy speed We if that's all he was doing but it's this is so because I first saw this this when I was like who is this I thought it was like one of those like um the mass singer or whatever they were doing Like the military or whatever I was like who is this I just couldn't I couldn't figure out because I just saw the image Well, he's normalized. Oh my god. That's uh, that's Maduro So evidently the vice president was in Russia at the time and the vice president demanded proof That he's like that Maduro's alive And then trump tweeted this out so not clear whether it's like in response to that like here's the proof that that he's alive But it doesn't seem like they have him and his wife Um, and I just say like the success of the military operation like I know there's um, you know There's been all types like historically of of attempts By the US and the CIA to kill you know Saddam Hussein or to kill Castro or all types of other leaders and they have succeeded in something or Yega They got him and whatever but like there's been attempts to like kill or capture all types of leaders But for it to happen like this like in one day in one attack go in and get him I mean we even in in 2003 I think we were in Iraq for a couple months before we got Saddam Hussein, you know Um, so they got him okay But one of the things that's so fascinating is like So almost like like the last 25 years don't exist when you go on like I go on social media today And you just see all the war hawks all got their mission accomplished signs up right like they're all celebrating like look We got them when really Getting them I mean look it's impressive. They did it in one day without like a lot of boots on the ground You know, we got a real badass military if people haven't noticed like the most badass group of of fighting men that have ever been assembled in human history But we know we can kill these guys like we know we could kill Saddam Hussein We know we could kill momar Qaddafi or Qaddaq Qaddafi or Bashar al-Assad we could get him out of it's like the question is what comes next That's always the question and that's the question that DC has always gotten wrong, you know for 25 straight years So like to see them celebrating when there's not even The we have no idea what the hell is gonna come next now And it's not even a situation like Iraq or Afghanistan where We were militarily occupying the country So it's a lot easier to direct who comes next when your troops are in there We don't even have that right now Trump just said he's gonna run it He said we're gonna run it and then we'll decide who to hand it off to well that's fucking vague I mean all right like what and since when you know, I listened with a force of like Over a hundred thousand troops substantially more than that over two hundred thousand at one point I listened to for 20 straight years every war hawk in this country lie through their fucking teeth About how capable this afghan government that we had just built up there was and how no I'm not saying Venezuela and Afghanistan are the exact same thing But I'm just saying like that was with a 20 year military occupation and all this backing and hundreds of billions of dollars of weapons It fell apart in two days, you know, so like the idea of the monkey bars and for all that shit Oh, yeah, like they're so and then out there we're doing like this tired Like we have we are guys lost to that We were doing they were doing those like running through the tires like get your knees up type of shit like they were and they were like There was a ref fucking kind of nailed it there didn't we had PE teachers over there Like it just right was unbelievable and so anyway I guess they're just like the hubris of just being like you know like look I don't I said people were kind of giving me some of the anti-war people actually were kind of giving me shit today Because I just I posted something on Twitter where I was like well I hope this works well, but like I do I hope it works out well like I'd I would take it working out real well And then okay, that doesn't look as good for the non interventionist types like me like see this one works Well, okay, it's already done now. So like I hope it works out But to watch people celebrating as if it's a given yeah that that it's gonna work out It's like it's dude, so you're and by the way We didn't at least as of now Donald Trump kind of like diminished the opposition leader and is at least floating out the idea that the the vice president can like kind of maintain a transitional control We have an invincible. You don't even overthrow in the communist or anything like that yet And the idea that right so what exactly is being done? That's the biggest question Because he was arrested on narco terrorism. This is Del Stessdale and gun charges And it is evidently us gun control covers Venezuela now There's a couple of theories of why we're even doing this right? Mm-hmm One of the reasons is because There's certain countries that are outside of um Like are kind of Comfort grid right and there's certain countries that are outside of our banking system Yes, yeah, right and Venezuela is one of those yep, and so and they also control a lot of oil Well, so in a weird way like what I one of the things I like to do with these with these wars is like you can kind of peel away the excuses So you know for for what so when people uh, you know say oh we're we're fighting the war in Iraq to spread democracy or something like that And then you could go okay, so we're close allies with Saudi Arabia and the UAE and like all these other countries But we have an issue about democracy in the no sorry that's bullshit because if it was or then they'll say like Oh, we have to support Ukraine because of Vladimir Putin's human rights abuses And you're like wait human rights abuses, but you sent $25 billion to Netanyahu in the last two years like Nah, I don't think human rights abuses is really the issue and then even they'll say like well It's because they're socialist and it's like we've been arming the Kurds in Iraq and Syria for decades now also socialist So like nah, I actually don't think so it's like you kind of can peel away some of these bullshit excuses And then go what's it really about and I got my best guess on this is that two things I think play huge influence in this number one Donald Trump who always seems to just see a deal And that's all you know like in his mind He seems to think his military is telling him we can take this guy out and put our people in and then I could get a huge oil sales And then I could turn around and say look how good this economy is and we win the midterm elections and whatever He always has like he see I can sell Trump oil I can sell like baby oil Yeah, right Trump I can sell yeah the new gold shoes like he and the gold shoes came out Yeah, he looks at Gaza while the rest of us are all like Crying for the baby who's being crushed to death by cement and screaming for his mother who can't come help him Because there's no bulldozers in Gaza we look at that and go oh my god the human tragedy Donald Trump and Jared Kutcher or C beachfront property like that's like where their mind goes They're like god that baby's ruining this bulldozers opportunity No one's gonna want to relax with a my time with this crying baby We got to get this baby out of here See they so they're not like they're not like ethnically cleansing because they believe in greater Israel They want to ethnically cleanse so that rich people can enjoy a sunset on the beach There's just always got to be a better place to have a my time. Yeah, right So anyway, but then the other thing and I do think this is a real part of it is that Marco Rubio is Cuban And they're also allied with Cuba now a lot of this a lot of this stuff with like the allies It's kind of like if you heard any you know like the bricks agreement stuff that that's like really Advanced over the last few years. That's a stuff with China China Russia and all them So like what happens is that if you're the US is the world empire the most powerful empire in the history of the world So if you're on the outs with us you kind of have no choice Other than to make friends with the other people who are on the outs with us because those are like your only options left Like that's actually why Fidel Castro went communist to begin with because he was enemies with the United States of America And so what were you gonna do right you got to ally with the Soviet you gotta have some boys right That's it's like going to prison right you got to join one gang or the other yeah, and so a lot of them They end up having friendly relations But the belief is and they've said this quiet part out loud a bunch of times I don't know if this is true or not But they think that the the regime in Cuba will fall as a result of this regime being overthrown And there's a whole bunch of Cubans in America Marco Rubio being one of them who understandably Really hate socialism in Cuba But remember it as like a Successful country before then even though I think Rubio was actually ruined before the cash his family was like Cuba was actually really mean no, no, I think Marco Rubio if I remember him this correctly his family got kicked out by like the Batista Regime or they had some beef with them, but they would but they they want to overthrow the communist like I want to I want to get done what my parents wanted to get done I've been in me something like that. Yeah, yeah And so you know, which is somewhat understandable I just think like you should be up front with that and not try to use the US military to like live out your personal fantasy in a weird way. It's a similar thing. Yeah, Israel. 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What is a paper tiger? Well something that appears to be ferocious, but is really just You know like made made of paper like the idea is that like oh yeah You you present yourself as strong and powerful, but you're really weak. It's like a bluff. Yes. Yeah And foreign policy paper tiger is a state alliance or threat that looks military or politically powerful from the outside But it's actually weak limited or unwilling to act when challenged I always love that by the way, which is like if they're a paper tiger Then why the hell we got to fight wars against them then you know like essentially because this is what they always said about Russia They'd say in in one breath john McCain would say Russia is just a gas station with nukes So they would go all they are is this you know They got some gas and they got some nukes But they got no economy and they got this tiny GDP and then in the next breath all the hawks go If we don't fund you crane, they're going to take over Poland and reconstitute the Soviet Union You're like well, I thought they were weak. Yeah, so like which one is it are they taking over all of Europe or they not Because if they're if they're weak, then maybe we don't really need to worry about them Yeah, there's all there's a lot of hypocrisy that goes on you know I mean, it's constant this guy is just an interesting take I thought just about this stuff that we can get it out of our systems The Venezuelan issue is both crucial tests of paper tiger quality on the part of all the great powers now China Russia and the United States China knows very well That the fentanyl excuse to stop the alleged fentanyl trade into the United States is used by Trump Mobilize for war against Venezuela where China is the largest of them International investors if China and Russia let the US make a regime change to kill president Maduro and destroy the Venezuelan government and replace it with Mrs. Machado or something else What's the credibility of the two of the three powers in bricks to assist anyone even themselves? That's the paper tiger aspect if it's the case that neither China nor Russia can deter nor bricks Brazil India and the others Iran can deter the United States from destroying Invading Venezuela destroying its sovereign government if they can't then bricks is a paper tiger too Just kind of interesting it is interesting You know, I'm seeing all the little things that could be a part of it right because it does it does just seem kind of confusing like Most people could not pick out where Venezuela is on a matter right yeah most of us had never even Thought of Maduro or heard of him before Probably within the past month right unless you like you know, I mean He's had a very interesting story is like coming up as a bus driver and being like a man of the people and everything But then seemingly getting compromised and like overwhelmed by wealth and power over time um And then like a lot of his influences and stuff were very like socialist influencers and stuff like that and so Uh, but then well, but like also to your point like imagine you know when you're saying So many people couldn't have you know picked this out on pick Venezuela on a map or something like that I mean if you just think right so you I was here a year ago with you How drastically different things are just a year ago. I mean like a year ago Donald Trump had his highest approval ratings that he's ever had He was the greatest political comeback story in in American history just something that was totally like It was amazing the way he not only came back from like say where he was right after January 6th When the question was whether he's gonna go to jail and going through all the trials and getting shot And then to not only come back and win the popular vote and win every swing state But he won the culture he won the youth yeah It would have been like it would seem impossible just a few years earlier black kid on him daddy literally black The John Jones is doing the Trump dance at Madison Square Garden. We were both there that night And uh just a crazy a crazy thing right and now You know, he's He's totally like divided as base. There's an invite in the reput all this stuff But anyway, so a year ago When people were so excited about Donald Trump coming in you never met one Trump supporter in your life Who went Now we're gonna get regime change in Venezuela. Yeah, that's why I'm excited that Donald Trump's here I mean people wanted no new wars. They wanted the border secure. They wanted the economy turned around They wanted inflation dealt with nothing there was never there was no demand from Trump's base And so this is like one more example of Donald Trump just siding with the war hawks over his own people and one of the things that really I find it like to be so it's it's such a like a An intolerable humiliation of Donald Trump supporters is that all these guys the war hawks Mark Marco Rubio Ben Shapiro Mark Levin like go down the list all of them Ted Cruz every last one of them They were the never trumpers Like I don't know if maybe some people just weren't paying attention to politics as long as I've been they were the never Trumpers anyone but Donald Trump they ran a front page Uh cover of national review saying never trump anyone but Donald Trump all of them Ben Shapiro said on issues of Because it's a matter of principle. I will never vote for Donald Trump He said he would hold his nose and allow Hillary Clinton to be a Elected president before he sent his at the time massive audience to support Donald Trump and now Donald Trump turns around and makes little Marco His national security How he embarrassed him on the in the debates. Yep. You called him little Marco He used to tear him apart and you know what he used to say man Oh, dude. I hope I'm getting this right there was I believe there's a tweet You could probably find it where Donald Trump said something like Sheldon Adelson will be able to control little Marco And that's why you can't let him be president and that's the the the god the ladies husband Yeah, he died, but Maryam Adelson is still alive and they're his biggest donors They've given them like hundreds of millions of dollars. Yeah, it's it's a and that's I don't even think that like if you counted the money for his first run his second run and the midterms They're probably close to a billion dollars that they've given look at this tweet right there Sheldon Adelson is looking to give big dollars to rubio because he feels he can mold him into his perfect little puppet Wow, I agree is it okay? He agrees with that Just to be clear this is and this is just a fact this is 2015 nobody nobody Has been molded into more of a puppet for the Adelson's then Donald Trump and Donald Trump now which they I know you've probably seen a couple of it It oh, it's so crazy. It oh, and I'm not saying this is the case. I don't think this is the case But it almost seems like Donald Trump is like Mocking them when he'll talk about how much they just care about Israel Like he'll open he goes out of his way about who that who just did Maryam Adelson and Sheldon Adelson that he'll go They gave me a lot of money and they called me all the time and they always come by and they're always asking for something And it's always for Israel and I do it all I give it all to like he's just openly telling you yeah that these look Maryam Adelson is a Palestinian Theo she was born before the creation of the state of Israel in what is today is real am I right about this what year born in 1945 In yeah, you could say Israeli American, but there's no such thing as Israel in 1945 Israel wasn't created till 1948. She was born in Palestine. She was born in Tel Aviv mandatory Palestine mandatory Palestine right so anyway, so she's from there now is this a new term mandatory Palestine It was a term at the time it was a term at the time where they uh they basically Like they were like, you know, we're not doing imperialism anymore. We're just doing mandates mandates where we come in and run the country and we'll take some of the resources too, but it's just such an interesting term mandatory Okay, so she was that's where she was born this she was let me just say that so my land she was Palestinians. Yes, so now he was born in America But who sheldon yeah, she was born in America No, he's not like actually Jewish fellow He he is on record saying that his biggest regret in life is that he wore the American military uniform and not the IDF uniform These are like Israel firsters right openly and Donald Trump says as much Oh, yeah, well, he just I mean Donald Trump is deaf, you know like they just had an announcement the other day or he was in a Um He was at a event where they he said he was Israel's best president They said your Israel's best president. Mark Levin said he's the first Jewish president Um, it's wild by the way Mark Levin called me a Nazi he did uh, yeah, yeah two days ago. Oh god No, he called me a neo-nazi to be fair. Oh, that's nice. Which is nice. Well new yeah like he wasn't actually claiming that I was a member of Hitler's You know national socialist workers party. Yeah, that's Impossible first of all for you to pull off and second of all neo-nazies It's not even determined what they're gonna do with their whole plan yet. Yeah, no, we're still working on it Um, you gotta play that out But it is a funny like I'm literally all um essentially my politics are all just like uh, like I'm against I'm against wars and government like I just want government to have less power and fight less wars Yeah, which is strikingly similar to eight-off Hitler as everybody knows that was what he was known for too But that's the individual rights That's the biggest weapon though. I mean even Tucker was talking about this. It's the biggest weapon of um People like him I guess to just call you Hitler or to call you an anti-Semite. It's just like It's I don't know and it's a weapon that's kind of out of bullets a lot of times. Yeah. Oh, yeah We talked about that before about how it's just been used so much. What is this part right here? Uh, and these people do like Israel hold on And He loves Israel too Six years ago I was up here and I said this is our first Jewish president Now he's the first Jewish president to serve to Not not consecutive Presidents we thank you for everything. Hmm Like there's another one No, well he's saying like that he lost and then came back in that he served two terms But like you could have just said serve two terms like what's what was the And also he is like which is very weird to see done to Trump But a lot of people would make it he's kind of like big dog in him like he's like you know like kind of pulling him closer It's all very bizarre, but yeah It's true Donald Trump is uh the most pro-Israel president uh an American history There's no question about that But the thing is that like what's omitted there is that actually all the other presidents were pro-Israel too They would just have some Demands on Israel like they would just go like hey could you just stop doing this right because this is a huge problem for us And then Israel wouldn't stop doing that and then they would get annoyed at them and then so like uh Then there's lots of examples like this like both George H. W. Bush and Barack Obama made a big thing out of asking him to stop build Settlements on the West Bank. You could just not do that because you're expanding these settlements causing all these problems The whole international you know community is outraged by it And then they just wouldn't stop. Yeah, that's one of the things that caused a lot of Rifts over the years too was just the taking over of Palestinians homes like people walking in and it was known It's not a debated thing. Oh, it's on video. Yeah, there's tons of video of it So it was just but it was walking in and taking over native Palestinians homes Just taking it over and kicking them out and I think after 30 years of that It just became too much for people to be here. So well the one poll I saw was they said it was before October 7th They said uh, who do you uh sympathize with more the Israelis or the Palestinians and it was plus 48% pro-Israel and then Taken like a couple months ago. It was a plus one for the Palestinians. So it was a 50 point Collapse right so anyway, we had speculated because Israel's in this situation where Everybody's turning on them because they just committed a genocide in 4k and forced us to fund it and we're all appalled by that But at the same time they have the most pro-Israel President in right now so they could look at the writing on the wall and go This is the best opportunity we have right now And then a lot of us and I said this on Rogan last time I was there I go they might move to annex the west bank like to formally just take the whole thing because now is their best opportunity to do it Now Trump came out and said kind of unprompted it was in a political article He said uh someone asked him about that and said what and he goes no I will not let Israel annex the west bank and so they go well What are you gonna do if they did annex the west bank and he actually said they would lose support from America if they annex the west bank And then and we say annex the west bank is means take it over completely just take it over and claim it as part of Israel Which by the way they've in effect already done right but they haven't formally done it okay So now this so this is the political piece so then cut to a month later JD Vance is in Israel and the kineset holds a vote Over annexing the west bank and it passes they intentionally now this was like kind of a symbolic voter whatever But they Donald Trump who's been the most pro-Israel president goes all I'll fund your genocide I'll arm your genocide. I'll bomb a ryan for you. I'll shoot down the Iranian missiles coming back at Israel in response We'll we'll bomb the Houthis for you. We'll go all you bomb the the The negotiators of a deal. I'm trying to make and I'll still work with you. Just still get funding One request Just don't annex the west bank and they go nope And we're gonna intentionally vote that way while your vice president is here just to let you know That you get that we run this shit and you don't and that for all the billions for all the billions you give us We're still in charge. It's just too crazy man. It's fucking gangster. It is gangster. You gotta admit that I mean, oh dude you have to also does it does like a gangster part of you that's like fuck These motherfuckers are not playing. Oh, yeah. Yeah. No question about it man And that's all it is that's all any government is at the highest level is gangster shit Yeah, and that's uh, they are really really good at it. Yeah Yes, pretty fascinating Let's talk about like so it's been a year since Trump's been in you said some of his base is kind of split now It does feel a little bit like there's like this How do you feel like Trump's done in his first year Like what are things you mean that you like and obviously I think he's been terrible And I assumed he probably would be a disappointment and I supported him last year Just because I thought like all things being considered it was better for our country that he went then come on a Harris when And also the Democrats just so deserved to lose like they you just can't reward that Well, come on. Yeah, I just saw the car. I'm a senior president and they all pretended we didn't it's just too crazy That was too crazy. They also like I mean they're I mean they're they're policy on covid their policy on Ukraine and then don't forget They were a full year into back in the genocide when it right is happening So they were you know they they deserve to lose Donald Trump has done a really good job in securing the border, right? You know, we had a really open border under Joe Biden. We have a secure border now Aside from that It's just been disastrous. I mean I just couldn't and does not even just disastrous like the policy was wrong But just the way they handled it. I mean the handling of the Epstein scandal is got it that goes down in history as like the worst handling of a scandal I've ever seen Literally from all these guys running on we're gonna release this stuff Pam Bondy having that thing where she gave the influencers the binders Yeah, there was nothing in them that was new and then they pivoted on a dime to there's no such thing I don't even know what you're talking about right you're crazy to think there was a thing to be released like it was and then to turn around and then they turn around and Mike Johnson said it will end the political order If we vote for Thomas Massey in rocahana and Marjorie Taylor Greene's build or release the files And then they turn around and get pressured into voting for it And now they're just redacting everything and like it's just I mean just he lost so much credibility on that obviously the um I think bombing around was terrible. Let's go one thing in a touch. Sure sure Yeah, break up some of those pictures that they just released too What what what was with the photodrop right before Christmas? It's all so bizarre like what is that a picture about if you're a Mary guy You know I'm saying like What are you doing there? Yeah, I mean like you're a married 60 year old guy Yeah, listen, I'm never going to be in a position with some chick like that I'm a married guy. That's a weird thing Yeah, I mean now again, it doesn't give us that much more information and we don't see her face But sure does look a lot younger than him. Yeah, go through some of these I mean this is kind of I mean it's all just kind of wild Kevin Spacey and Bill Clinton there and was this ad Epstein Island allegedly And there's some photos. This is the best thing look at these photos everything redacted in them Here's these could be photos from anybody's phone Everything redacted and then one mark of the beast or something from zodiac killer on the one that he drilled. Yeah, just bizarre I mean, it just like it's so strange why why would they just show with some of this stuff right before the holidays? Are they just trying to like everything now you start to you have to think? Is just like is it trying to distract my attention from something else, you know, and the news reports They don't even tell you about the real shit that's going on anyway. Yeah, so the most of the stuff that's happening Here's a crazy part. We don't even know anymore like most of the most serious shit that's going on Yeah, we don't know the clue. Well, I think part of the thing look the Epstein The whole story Is so like it's so dirty Like it just stinks. I mean you just look at it and you're like dude look we know what we know But knowing what we know how could you possibly piece this together that it's not some huge scandal I mean like already when you just go okay, so there's a guy who was convicted of pedophilia or convicted of soliciting prostitution from an underage girl You know then a decade after he's convicted or at least eight years after he's still Like in the most influential circles with all these and then for national security reasons You're telling me this has to be hugely redacted like what the hell This just makes no sense and his connections to a hood baroque and massage now all being known It's just too crazy and Donald Trump. I mean, I think I think I think covering up the Epstein thing the way he has Has like profoundly hurt him in a way that isn't even measurable on polls And like his poll members are lower than they were and I'm sure that's a big part of it But there is something where like look the the fundamental animating spirit of Donald Trump's political existence His his central promise was drain the swamp. Yeah, you know like the reason why people love Donald Trump is because Everybody on some level know that DC is just corrupt as shit And that they're screwing all the rest of us over and they face no consequences for it and There's something about covering up the Epstein thing that it's like oh when it really came down to it You didn't want to drain the swamp you wanted to protect them and maybe because you're pretty close to it irrigator Yeah Ah, it's just so twisted and one thing that Tucker Carlson said that was interesting to me um Yeah, I mean some of this stuff is just I mean we're writings from the low leader books on these women's bodies very strange. I mean that's really Wild. Oh, just there's no mchomsky legendary anti-war leftist Steve jobs. I'm sorry not Steve jobs uh the gates I apologize for that Steve. Yeah a couple bow and arrows Um, but yeah, just bizarre that these would come out right before Christmas It kind of like keep your attention focusing on that and also it's like a drip It's like a morphine drip and delivered in a way that is more confusing than illuminating You know what I mean delivered in a way where nobody's attempting to actually get information to you that you can even try I mean like obviously like good journalist will be tearing through these documents I think this is like 1.7 million more to come the journalist will be tearing through these for years But like I think you just watch a lost after a while. Well also I can't Look man, I know I know people get People get tribal about politics And I know like there was a whole when I came out like a little over a year ago And I said I was gonna support Donald Trump in the election I know the Trump people were like yeah Dave Smith's on board and then and I always knew I was like listen guys You're gonna be mad at me when he does something I don't like and I'm back to criticizing him But like if we're just being fair about this I just I can't not say this shit dude Cash Patel and Dan Bungino made millions of dollars dude like they made so much I mean I don't know cashed it a lot of big shows Dan Bungino had a huge show He made millions of dollars all day long talking about this Epstein scandal How they were gonna get to the bottom of it he even said Dan Bungino the I guess he's leaving now But the deputy FBI director even said on tim pool show That he had it on good authority that Jeffrey Epstein was connected to Middle Eastern intelligence Now which Middle Eastern intelligence do you think he was talking about which middle Epstein was surely working on the Saudi payroll or something like that like yeah, okay So like they said this they promised they were gonna get to and not just did jack shit lied through their Fucking teeth told us there were no co-conspirators there was no sex trafficking that he killed himself like hey Cash Patel Dan Bungino you you looked me in the eye not to me, but to the American people yeah and said he killed himself I've seen the proof. Why can't we see that proof? Yeah, I don't know Cash can look somebody in the eyes first of all Cash you looked all of us in the eyes simultaneously when you it is funny We start to look at cash Patel you're like there's no way this was the guy How did we ever think this was the guy Um and Tim Dylan has Tim Dylan on his totally kind of like Tim Dylan has brought this guy's life down To but to a manageable level to a realistic level like yeah those guys It makes you realize that there's there's a there's something above the FBI and the CIA That gives them what they then they you're allowed to work from here. Yeah, yeah Here's the it's like you said at the uh kids table at Thanksgiving. Yeah, yeah, and you you play with these You know we'll give you can do the drug charges in a little bit of this and that and But otherwise we're gonna handle the big shit. That's right. That's right Or it's it's either that they were they never really got in control And there was a level of control above them or that they were lying and that they or that they sold out or that they were compromised But there's some answer to it But there is something where like you just the credibility damage On all of them like like just the amount of like street cred that cash Patel had a year ago compared it now and It's too I think all of them all right, but some of it is also I think is um it's the communication right it's like Why not come and say hey? I got in here. I'm not even allowed to see the things that I really want to see yeah And I'm also not allowed to say the things that I really want to say Yeah, right like if you said that or if you said like Honestly, there's so many this this episode stuff has has to go through so many hands before we can even put anything out to the public So everybody can safely get their stuff for that that That it's unbelievable and the best we're ever gonna get is this well the other thing the other thing that um Because didn't he say that they had seen everything and there was nothing there yeah, yeah Can you pull that up? I think he said also now they're saying there's 1.7 million documents like did you go through all of those? Yourself like are you confident? Yes, he did say that you and Dan had a sleep over whatever just stayed up all night going through those and you also just know right like it's like You know if he had come on Rogan a year earlier You know he would have been saying a whole different thing about that And so it's like you got to at least explain to me like what changed from there to now because otherwise you leave us just speculating like I don't know dude either you're compromised or you got put in your place or you're just a liar and a fraud Yeah, let me see what close. Oh, here's a clip. We have this this uh this is a Tim Dylan Uh There's a cash per tell Rogan clip that Tim Dylan covers this is this is good Tell talking about why they can't uh put the abs into because it will re-victimize the women We're not gonna re-victimize Women what we're not gonna put that you know It's not happening because then he wins not doing it Who wins he's dead That's too ridiculous man. I mean Play it look The victim if there is a video of some guy workout committing felonies Nice and I'm in charge Don't you think you'd say it? Yes, but that's that's why everyone's confused Pam Bondi said there were videos. She's the attorney general. She goes there's hundreds of hours of video That's a quote from Pam but get the Pam Bondi quote up by the videos There are tens of thousands of videos of abs with children or child porn and there are hundreds of victims So that's Pam Bondi now. Let's go to cash beteluga's um So if there were things let's go cash beteluga If there was a video don't you think you'd say it If you have access to it if I have it pure if I have it if I have it Got it. So okay where else would it be It's just this why dude this is why Tim is a better comedian than me because he could just be so funny with this shit And I'm just it just makes me so angry like he even just watching that I'm just like furious so I don't like even think of the funny thing to say. I'm just like yeah because dude What does that essentially come down to trust me don't if I had it don't you think I would and then and what is cash really trading in his trust for is We liked you because you said you were gonna get to the bottom of this shit That's the whole thing we liked you for you can't turn around and then go and now I'm here But wouldn't you know me? I mean I would and look dude It's it's there's a broader thing that's involved here, right? The point is that the drain the swamp Cash Patel Dan Bange no their whole brand the whole thing was that look there are these criminals in DC And look at all the things that they've done and and they would all talk it wasn't just Epstein they would all talk about rush a gate the 2020 election I mean look what these guys are claiming and I don't know about the 2020 election But I they're 100% right on rush a gate and Epstein when they were talking about it before they sold out Is that they go look The intelligence agencies Framed a presidential candidate and then the sitting president they framed him of treason In order to unseat a democratically elected president of the United States of America that is The biggest scandal in the history of the United States of America like this is the these are huge crimes Sedition treason very serious crimes and notice paying everything they locked down the whole country based on pseudoscience They fucking they they covered up a Senile president they covered up a pedophile ring they like all and now you guys are in charge of the justice department How many indictments yeah zero zero and then you're gonna sit there and cash Patel is gonna tweet out a picture of like some dude Throwing a sandwich at a cop and go we got him Because this is cash Patel's America boys people don't get away with crimes here. Yeah, that's oh wow great Well cash Patel we're also in press that you brought down chancey billups. Yeah, like okay. That's great You know like that's great, but like that's not exactly what we were voting for get a free room and not a gallery gets it I mean that sandwich was still pretty good. Okay, how he gets it dude a cop would love a free room and dude It's the top of the year and I find that to be a nice time for adding in something new Trying something different for sure. It's the beginning right a new beginning Because after all there's no right time for your health There's just now And a G1 is the easiest and most impactful habit you can implement this year Sustainable health is about consistency not perfection Simplify your nutrition with a G1 multivitamin pre and probiotics super foods and anti-oxidants in one scoop a G1 That's the one. I've used it. I've used it top of the morning bam poured in swirled up Daesh I'm in I'm full. 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Yeah, it's just a distraction Yeah, the report Gabbardy class file was prepared by Republicans on the House intelligence committee is dated 18 to September 2020 These are allegations these bizarre allegations are ridiculous and a weak attempt at a distraction as spokesperson for Obama said Huh, well what they one of the things that was revealed in the documents was that there was a I'm sorry one thing sure uh It was declassified on Wednesday Uh, day after president Trump accused former president Barack Obama of leading an effort to falsely time to rush and undermine his 2016 election campaign Is that what the documents were about? Well what the documents showed was that there was um essentially a national security analysis Um, it was uh, what are they called the threat assessment analysis after the 2016 election where the intelligence agencies Had reached a consensus that there was no meaningful interference in the election of course for rush now yes now Remember now if you remember the central claim of russia gate was there were two aspects to it one was that The russians interfered in the election on behalf of Donald Trump and number two that Donald Trump was involved in the conspiracy to do so That like Donald Trump and the russians were working together to overthrow the election now if true That's the biggest story in American history right that the sitting president is a foreign spy But what tells it now it had been the part about Donald Trump being involved in the conspiracy had been completely debunked It was all based off the steel dossier. It was all lies. There's all the Hillary Clinton Uh, up research You know campaign bullshit that the CIA and the FBI jumped on but what what told he gabber revealed was that they didn't even believe the first part of it They didn't even believe that russia interfered at the time And so anyway, but the broader point to that is So the director of national intelligence came out said there's proof that Obama committed treason and that she sent it to the justice department What happened to the last we heard of that right and like well what the hell at some point you got to come through on one of these things Yeah, yeah, that's it. There's never any explanation for a lot of stuff. There's never any real communication Um, the the uh, yeah, the russia gay thing was just like obviously that was ridiculous remember it was just that they were getting a lot of ads to Yeah, on Facebook and it was like 30 grand worth of ads. It was like nothing and Facebook was um, I think they were I don't want to say they were convicted, but they admitted to in helping to influence the 2020 yeah, they admitted to helping influence Biden's campaign in 2020 Well, not only that but Zuckerberg on Rogan's show uh Rogan Asked him about the hunter Biden story and he was like yeah, well, we didn't we didn't censor it the way Twitter did but we turned down the signal so no one could see it and then he says he offers this jodan like ask him He just goes well, you know the FBI came and visited like a week before and they said be on the lookout for a big Russian dump It's going to be Russian influence as it Russian interference in the election again Which never happened the first time, but it was going to happen again And so then he said that essentially he thought that was it. Yeah, so when it came he was like oh the FBI So it's not just Facebook interfering. It's the government. It's the it's the FBI interfering to put their thumb on a scale in an election by the way against The current commander in chief. Yeah, like the current sitting U.S. President It's even worse than like if they were interfering which would still be really bad to keep like the president's competition out, but they're in subordinate. They're they're interfering to Unseat the guy who is the head of the executive branch right now and it seems like that led to also Trump getting reelected the second time Because it was like oh the system they whatever this dark system is that already feels dark and feels controlling Hates him so much that they must hate him because he's the guy that's gonna help He's the guy that's gonna make things different. No, that's that's right and there's and also because it was just like the I think the when they when they went after him when they weaponized the justice department to go after him that played into that too Like they just raided Mar-a-Lago. They're trying him for some bookkeeping issue in New York I mean none of this makes any sense at all It's obviously just that like these shadowy forces don't want this guy in And so that was a huge part of Trump's populist energy. Yeah Yeah, it became like well. Yeah, if the justice department is in fair to him Right That's the one thing it feels like that we would have you would hope we be fair in this country. Yeah, right? Yeah Is like a sense of justice. There's some sense of justice here and when that starts to fail you have to start to you There's a party that just cheers for that guy. It's like oh he can't even get any justice, you know Yeah, oh that's right. It's just How how do you think um? How do you think things look as we go into 2026 here because it's just baffling man Like I was hoping to see more things where it's like okay, we're building things We're we're bringing businesses back and we're gonna you're gonna start to see certain jobs and opportunities come back to different areas and if they are Why wouldn't you talk about that more and share that more and inspire people more with that, you know Yeah, I think that's some of the communication that would be nice to hear more of I think you kind of have to You kind of need a couple years to kind of see maybe what they're gonna do with some of these tariffs if we're making money from these tariffs What does that go into you know, it maybe it could be set aside and say well the the the money that we're keeping from these tariffs It's gonna go here here and here to support these things or to rebuild these efforts, you know The thing is that we're like we the problem in America isn't that the federal government doesn't have revenue I have a huge tax base. I mean we we bring in more revenue now than we've ever brought in before just through taxes forget the tariffs um the problem is that no matter how much revenue DC brings in they spend three times as much Yeah, you know, I mean we're we're 38 Plus trillion in debt and you know the real it fucking feels like a number of kids with well and but the crazy thing is right Is that our government is so big That the 38 trillion isn't even nearly enough I mean, it's like the 38 trillion is just what they racked up on the credit card They were spending our tax revenue that whole time So they spent tens of trillions of dollars of our tax revenue and even that's not enough They can't tax enough and they can't borrow enough and so then they just print the money Yeah, and this is really the central problem that everyone's living through today is that if you could go look this up on like charts but like between Essentially from the financial collapse in 2008 To today so like from and George W. Bush had printed a ton of money too But if you just look like bush Obama trump Biden trump again We printed something like a third of the money that's ever existed like the the answer has just been always Just keep printing money keep flooding this is and now people are looking around and they're going wait a minute Why is the price of everything out of control? It's crazy like the Democrats who want not just mom Donnie In New York, but also the gubernatorial races in Virginia and New Jersey that they just wanted this last Elections in November all of them ran on what they call now the unaffordability crisis But like what is unaffordability that just means you've debased your currency right so this is kind of the now So the answer is we got to stop debasing our currency like the solution would be a gold standard or something where you don't just print money out of thin air But the problem with that is that you can't really be a world empire and do that And so in a weird way you really do have to I mean you can't be a giant welfare state either But you kind of have to make a choice between like Donald Trump siding with the war hawks at every turn Or Donald Trump siding with the American people and not debasing their currency anymore But he doesn't want to do that in fact he wants quite the opposite He wants the Fed chairman to lower interest rates He wants more money to be lent more money to be printed because that he assesses that that will be good in the short term and help him win the midterm elections Um, but of course that's like what got us to this place to begin what so Once you're not once you're not willing to compromise on actually cutting spending And you want to keep the empire strong now you got to come up with other schemes Well, maybe we put a tariff on Chinese goods then maybe that'll make them more expensive so people will want to produce here But those type of schemes never work out man. Yeah, you just can't tax your way into prosperity Yeah, we'll put a tax on ball caps or whatever on butta scotch as a whatever because real people got to pay those taxes too You know and it just comes back to the people it's like Ah, I don't know where it's such a spot where it's like It's like how much more can we take? We're also gotten too comfortable Yeah, you know, it's like we're too comfortable like how It's it's he it's hard to like be like yeah, I'm gonna go and talk about this or I'm gonna go um protest about this or I'm gonna Not pay my taxes or you know, it's hard to and we need like I have but you know We got Netflix. We got this. Yeah, food in the cupboard. Yeah, when you're when you're comfortable Yeah, that's right people aren't gonna know no comfortable country ever leads a revolution, you know But but at the same time One of the things that I find really the same and no comfortable come to country ever leads a revolution well There's a but I wasn't getting on college just like but there's a big trend I think I we talked about this a little bit last year But this was a big trend one of the things that I'm really optimistic about that I just think is really interesting is that so like one of the Crazy things and you were a big part of this but one of the crazy things that happened in the 24 election was that The whole like the whole corporate media What used to be called the mainstream media which seems like a ridiculous title for them now Cuz like they're not the mainstream at all, but they kind of had to admit it was over like if you there was there was a CBS clip Yeah, yeah, we're like it which is crazy that it's the first one that like it's you're the first one who mustered up the thought Here here play yeah, and this is this white guy to do it too and this is CBS says that starting today They will be reporting the news more from the average American perspective rather than solely the opinions of the liberal elite It's just such a funny thing to announce that CBS is gonna do news Okay guys we're gonna try something new here All right, there's a crazy thought I had a crazy thought we were workshop in this for a little while What if we reported the news and not through an angle that always protects You know goblins sex maybe we'll do it through an angle that's like for you. Yeah, is that crazy? Yeah Let's hear it a lot has changed since the first person sat in this chair But for me the biggest difference is people do not trust us like they used to And it's not just us. It's all of legacy media And I get it I get it because I've been hearing about it from just about everybody for more than 20 years as I've traveled America on this assignment or that My mom's neighbors in West Virginia my own neighbors in New York City thousands and thousands of conversations in between Sometimes people want to talk to me about our coverage of NAFTA or the Iraq war Other times it's all about Hillary Clinton's emails or rush a gate Or more recently COVID lockdowns hunter Biden's laptop or the president's It's just you mean when you ruined the country does that come up? Does it come up that you destroyed the greatest country in the history of the world? Yeah, people fighting about shit that you knew wasn't real and never even an apology in any of that Yeah, dude my neighbors and I didn't talk for like a year and a half because of the rush to get shit I was like that's complete bullshit I could just immediately I knew when I saw like none of this makes any sense Russia Russia's a bunch of fucking rusted-out vehicles And all these all these people are carrying stone dolls made out of stone which I respect because there's a lot of like, you know You know you really learn to do something if you if the doll is heavy You know there's some about that that I really respect but They this I just knew it just seems so ridiculous maybe 50 years ago maybe but not today You're right and then just like as you just casually mentions like or lockdowns. It's like oh, yeah Like when they when they turned our country into a totalitarian state Remember they did that for a year plus and you guys did what with you guys you're sitting here You're the journalist you have this role as the media and you always talk about how important this role is right and then They lock down the country and you decided in that moment here's what we'll do Will demonize anybody who's skeptical of this will call you names will will shame Americans for for demanding Some degree of basic liberty during a crisis and then by the way, you know what happens as a result of that when you do it Which by the way, there's been a ton of studies on this now They didn't even the lockdowns didn't even slow the spread of the goddamn virus It wasn't even like there was a benefit that you got this cost in exchange for it did nothing the lockdown areas The things spread just as badly as they did through non lockdown areas mass compliance had nothing to do with anything But you know what was real is how many families got broken up yeah over lockdowns How many a rooms were closed and people couldn't go to get recovery and end up relapsing How many people fell off the wagon during during lockdowns how many people who were like on the edge Ended up losing their apartment ended up living outside on the street. How no all those guys They got to live with that tragedy and you but your responses to go finally after all these years I'll acknowledge Some people were upset about this we'll do it a little bit differently going forward like shouldn't you'd resign and disgrace Like just I mean like listen. I'm trying to be reasonable here I really think you should fall on a Japanese sword and public in front of a lot of people But I will accept resigning in disgrace And picking up garbage on the side of the road for the rest of your life and they've shunned that dude They caught jerk and often the zoom meeting member Yeah, that's right. That's right. He's he faced more consequences to Ben face more consequences than any of these guys that dude they at least they made him come on Dude, you know as he was jerking off during a zoom meeting which first of all Who doesn't want to jerk off during a freaking zoom meeting and who has and if you're if you're most your bodies off screen Body you not yeah, it's an impossible challenge But um is it crazy Theo that I get now because I do this you know Whatever the weird career that I have is but like I'll get all these people now like high profile people Who will be like talking shit about me? It'll be like Dave Smith. Who what does he know? What does he know what he's talking about? He's some comedian. He's not an expert. He get and look fair enough What the fuck do I really know right? I am just a comedian who's read a lot about this stuff And I get on shows and I talk about like it's like this. It's not like that. So like fair enough call me out I'm just a guy and if people want to listen they can if they don't they don't have to but I'll be arguing like I'll be arguing on Twitter with Or recently David Worms are the remember last time I was on air so I Told you about the the clean break memo That uh it was uh the Neal cons wrote to Netanyahu to get away from the peace plan and to overthrow Saddam Hussein for Israel So the guy who wrote it Is now talking shit to me on Twitter the Neal okay He was at the Pentagon. He was at the state department and they'll say things to me like They'll be like Dave you this guy's a comedian. He doesn't know what he's talking about good dude You were the architect of the war in Iraq go away forever Like you don't get to tell you get to come out here and go who does this guy think he is Who do I think I am you got a million people killed and didn't get punished for it just kindly Go away Is that an unreasonable request? I know like I it's but anyway the CBS guy it I guess what's interesting is at least he's acknowledging it. I guess it's like By the way also in the background of this is that CBS news was just purchased by the Israel lobby. Yes And so this is there I'm sure we can really trust you now Yeah, let's put a little bit more that clip of the guy that was talking Fitness for office The point is on too many stories the press has missed the story Because we've taken into account the perspective of advocates and not the average American Or we put too much weight in the analysis of academics or elites and not enough on you And I know this because at certain points I have been you I have felt this way too I felt like what I was seeing and hearing on the news didn't reflect what I was seeing and hearing in my life Distopian time. Yeah, it's like and then is it too much for me to ask That you resign and disgrace right you know like it or in disgust I should say like I'm saying like if you if you're going I felt that same way too at times Well then what the fuck man like no one's putting a gun to your head So so leave and blow the whistle and become all of our hero And go have the biggest podcast ever you know what like it's not even like a difficult thing to have done It's not even like like there is more culpability for you than there was for the average Nazi soldier At least the average Nazi soldier was like I'll get shot in the head if I don't do this You know like you had nothing except giving up a 10 million dollar salary or something like that like you know and and by the way you could still go make lots of money Because the people would rally around you if you did something like that And like it's like when there's that tape of um if you're not gonna tell the truth What are you like you know I'm saying I mean yeah, that's your job right It's like but it's like if you're not gonna try your best to Figure it out. I don't know it just I couldn't imagine sitting there regurgitating lies like just how much it would make you crawl on the inside Yeah, yeah, no, it's an it's an amazing ability. I mean, I've been close up with it And it's uh it was one of the things when I debated Chris Cuomo It was like one of the things that really was like it was startling to see because it's how comfortable He was just lying like lying through his teeth out uh Demonstrable a lot like I would I would say like there was one point in it and the patch of it David production staff Always be grateful to them because man they got my back that day and they had the clip They pulled it up real quick, but I went he went look I don't think the guys at CNN should have mocked Joe Rogan for taking Iver Mecton and I went you did yeah You mock Joe Rogan for taking Iver Mecton and he goes no I didn't I go yes you did I've seen it I've watched you do it and then he goes no I didn't and then they pull up a clip of him going Joe Rogan Iver Mecton I mean horse D. Warmer and the entire room because it was a live show the entire room goes oh And then he goes oh no no no I was saying like vet the veterinary version not the regular version go Would you reverse and do you think Joe Rogan was taking you think Joe Rogan went to the pet store? Like yeah, he's got a few bucks. I don't know if you've heard you know, but they're at a fucking pet go Yeah, I can grow and part at a pet going In there that's the gerbil cage you're like believe it or not Joe Rogan can afford doctors And you know grooming the dogs right in the front when you walk in uh hi I'm world famous Joe Rogan I was here to pick up some Iver Mecton I have a prescription for my dog I'd like to fill like you got worms Joe, huh? But these people who work in corporate media man they get real comfortable just Like a knowing lie that they will just repeat because that's the business But the thing that's interesting to me and this is the last year right is that they admitted it Because this was true five years ago too five years ago four years ago three years ago Rogan had a much bigger audience than CNN had But they would still pretend like he was the fringe and they were the mainstream media But after trump got reelected they admitted it They all said we need our own Joe Rogan like they admitted that the podcasting is where it was and part of that is because Trump Very wisely and I guess I've heard that it was uh his son Who convinced him to do it, but he went on your show and Joe show and Andrew show and you know like some of the other ones No, boys. Yeah, I don't know them, but like yeah, they're a huge uh, I've learned and so he rode this kind of podcast wave Where the new media was he went to them. It was very smart And then there were intra and and I thought it was really like even when on your show with him One of the things that was cool like we've never really seen that Just like in the middle of a presidential season where a president comes in and just doesn't really talk politics Talks about like his his brothers struggle with alcoholism and you're like oh wow We kind of get to see a candidate in a new way now one of the things I think that's interesting about this now What's happened over this last year is that A lot of those guys and I remember arguing about this with people at the time But they were kind of like oh now the the problem is that All these podcast bros are just Trump Stands now and they're all gonna just you know support him no matter what and I was like now I don't think so dude like I don't think that's never been the thing And so what's interesting is that this whole media environment like if JD Vance wants to be president Like I'm not saying he has to come do your show, but he kind of has to come do your show He kind of has to go do Rogan's show he kind of has to like do that or at least it he's turning down a big opportunity not to And so and it will be known by people. I think if they you don't go do Joe show. Yeah, if you don't do You know, I'm trying to think of like shulches show That you got to least do some of them or go take go sit with Tim Dylan. Yeah, that would be amazing Because you know this will do huge huge numbers right and you know though that it will be That that Joe is gonna do his best job to be you know He's gonna do what he does best. Yeah, he's the best to do it But I just think that they're controlled right that's the thing And they're gonna have to answer some questions next time And like that's one of the interesting things right now right because like there was over this last year really I mean, it's the last two years, but really over this last year there was this huge like um This huge split in the right wing Over Israel obviously Um, this was the biggest cause you think I think that look obviously Charlie Kirk Be and killed was a but look Charlie Kirk was already dealing with it before he died like it was a dynamic at turning point It was a huge scandal when he had Tucker and me and and Megan Kelly at turning point and then he's he went on Megan Kelly show and talked about how All the Zionists were like flipping out on him and how crazy it was that he had been such an ally And they were turning on him just for hosting a debate and hosting a few voices that were critical of of Israel Not really that many on actually, but This was this has been a huge split, but it's not a split like it's 50 50 It's a split like the entire youth is against This unconditional support for Israel a huge portion of you know what like Candace and Tucker Carlson and Nick Fuentes have been surging over this last year They're bigger than ever. Yeah meanwhile Ben Shapiro is like lose in a thousand youtube subscribers a day Mark Levin is just getting ratioed every time he opens his mouth on on social media And so what's happening now is there's this dynamic where I thought he was Jim Kramer. I don't even know who you are I kept on confusing the guy confused go on no There's a situation Well, so but I'm saying now you have this dynamic where JD Vance wants to be the the Republican nominee Well like 80% of the base is against is for America first not for Israel first, you know And now and particularly with all those shows we were talking about like your show Rogan show Tim show Andrew show all these guys Everybody my show all all of us are like we don't want to fight wars on behalf of Israel So it's like where do you go now now there's a now there's a real media environment Not saying it's perfect and I'm just naming the comedians. There's a lot of other great like news shows out there too like breaking points with a Sagar and jedi and crystal ball is a great show like there's there's a bunch of really good shows online That aren't in this corporate controlled media environment where They're actually going to have to face some of this stuff going forward So I'm like I'm very optimistic about that kind of long term that we've like cracked The states monopoly on propaganda yeah, it is going to be interesting because you're going to have to answer I don't know if you're going to be able to say your pro israel candidate It's going to be tough now here's the thing is that and they're going to be in a Charlie Kirk type situation here And I'm not talking about Charlie Kirk's assassination But I'm saying the position that Charlie Kirk was in right before he died and the reason why he was sending those text messages to Josh hammering them that I have no other choice than to abandon support for Israel And while he was complaining about all that stuff on the Megan Kelly show is that he was caught between a rock in a hard place Which is exactly what JD Vance is going to be caught between now because you've got well look in order to in order to lead an organization like turning point USA You need your young activists and then you need your donors right you need billionaires to give you money But you need young activists to show up And so Charlie Kirk was in this position where he's like dude the young activists are completely against this shit But the donors won't even let you host a debate about it let alone take that position And so what do you do there and now JD Vance is going to be in a similar position too If you come out and you say I'm pro israel well man, I mean at this point that turns a whole lot of us off But if you say I'm anti israel That's a tough in Washington DC you can't survive there for long So he's got to try to walk this tight rope that is becoming more impossible by the day he's gonna need a strong mascara You better put your best I get that Death mascara on for that one Tyve shit and I like JD Vance I like he knows I like JD too I like JD I like JD I even would like to maybe be able to support him Yeah, but I'm in a position right now. I don't see how I'm gonna be able to at least from from my perspective Because you're coming off of you're gonna be attached to the administration that Did everything that Nyan who wanted and covered up the Epstein scandal and didn't solve any of the major problems in the country sort of maybe the border And also JD Vance what are you gonna say what are you gonna run on this time? We'll really drain the swamp like what are you gonna and also just because Trump is Trump He can't really criticize Donald Trump because he's still his vice president as he's running a presidential campaign It's a tough spot. Yeah, bro. He's good. That's the tightest rope in the world Now there is something about that tight rope that I can tell JD like loves like he wants to challenge himself He's a guy who's challenged himself a lot in his life And he wants to challenge himself So he's gonna try to navigate that that's gonna be super tricky to figure out because those are I mean that's like his I mean, that's just like a It's such a fine point Yeah, well you I think you know, you see it like already that's such a fine point man Well, it's happened a lot just with um, and it's kind of become a mega verse America first too is kind of where that thing where that uh Where the Republican kind of the right divide is like yeah, I was I mean, I like Trump the first time because he was an underdog I was like, oh this dude is just something like I know he's Donald Trump And I know he's like been known for a crooked antics and um dodging like um Contractors and shit over the years But then also it was like fuck if this guy wins I remember when he won the first time when we're driving down the street and thinking oh shit anybody could be president Well, especially was the feeling you had when you were a kid a little bit like dude, I could be president Well, just the idea that anybody could be president because there's something about Donald Trump that even though he's a billionaire He's such a regular guy billionaire like like he's he's a billionaire the way the average guy In a trailer park would be a billionaire if you gave him a billion dollars. Yeah, well, he's not pretending not to be a billionaire But right, but it's also just like uh, it's like how about we make it the biggest gold sign ever It's like someone who never had money who just like is like wants to show off that he's got some now Let's see why him and kid rocker so close because yeah kid rock is like that. He's like let's make it like this Yeah, it's right which I love Um, but he's awesome. I met him Last time I was down here. I met him at a I did his show Which was so much fun. Uh, he does like a comedy show in the Nashville comedy festival. I did that last time so much fun He's an awesome guy um, but so Donald Trump and then also you had he speaks like a regular guy Like he doesn't speak like a highfalutin academic or something like that right he speaks like a regular guy Regular people can understand him and then he announces he's running for president and his right again his pitches drain the swamp Um, and I'm gonna fight for you I'm gonna fight for you to win and then because he says that Every media apparatus every Hollywood actor academia and the entire political class All hate his guts and are working against him And so he's naturally just cast is like the underdog the guy who's there for you who's gonna take them And then he sits at South Carolina. It was so ballsy and Donald Trump always had an amazing ability to like Say the obvious truth and then and sit give you permission to also agree with him So like he goes in South Carolina of all places at the Republican primary and he looks at Jeb Bush And he goes your brother lied us into war. Oh, and like and there this was an amazing moment in American history So he says this to Jeb Bush and Jeb Bush goes that's very offensive That you would say something like that then he doubles down on it. He goes. They lied There were no weapons of mass destruction And he knew there were no weapons of mass destruction like the the biggest accusation you could make your brother Led the I mean you're like in South Carolina. It's one of those militarized states in the union at the Republican National He's like saying your brother's dead because of him and his brother and what they did You know and then that night on all the cable news It was unanimous by everyone who knew all the experts all the ones who say I'm just a comedian I don't know what I'm talking about they're the experts every single expert went on TV that day to say Donald Trump is done He's finished because let me tell you one thing you can't do in South Carolina Is insult the military and George W. Bush and blah blah blah blah and then the next day at the primary Donald Trump Dominate it just destroy Jeb Bush who walked away with like one percent Just destroy it and so and then that guy Ends up side by the way. Did you see this the other day? This is this is how bad the Trump administration has done one year in You know who just praised Donald Trump on Twitter Jeb Bush Jeb Bush you're lying. I swear to god. It'll be right up there at the top It might oh everything is that first one yep right there pinned tweet The Islamic Republic does not represent the great Iranian people President Trump continues to demonstrate historic leadership on around so why Jeb Bush is now praising Donald Trump and why is it because Jeb Bush woke up and became a lot better on stuff? No, it's because Donald Trump is finishing off what was the seventh country on general Wesley Clark's list Of seven countries that were to be toppled. Oh, that's true If you remember that time people try to give me shit for bringing this up. We have the neo conservatives Well, yes, it was him talking about the neo conservatives plan that they had That they had just instituted under the George W. Bush administration and this this list of seven countries With Sudan being the one exception now Sudan did collapse and fall into a state of civil war in the country broke off And I think there's still a horrible civil war going on there good athletes uh very good But of the other countries okay, there's six left on that list Israel the US or both have attacked all of them. Yeah, since that point bombed all of them And the last regime change was supposed to be around which okay Donald Trump stopped short of regime change They are but he did launch a war against the flirting with it over the summer and still flirting with it That thing is not over at all we're at halftime Again, like the mission accomplished banner like the people with Venezuela right now They always love to celebrate immediately. Oh, Dave you warned this might be a catastrophe But look it was just 12 days you're like yeah, but look it's not over Like I'm old enough to remember very vividly uh in 1991 After George H. W. Bush led the Persian Gulf War and all the war hawks were celebrating what a easy success the war in Iraq was But then we went on to bomb that country for 30 more years and lost Trillions of dollars and a million Iraqis died and 5,000 of our bravest young soldiers died and then like 30,000 committed suicide in the aftermath of the whole thing So you sit there celebrating these wars right after you know like in the immediate aftermath of them Netanyahu and Trump were just talking the other day about when they're gonna bomb around next that thing ain't over at all but Anyway, the point being Jeb Bush loves Donald Trump now because he's siding with the war hawks He's siding with the Neocons against his own voters That's I mean, I don't know try like whatever you think about him you had there's you have to respect His ability oh for sure unless now what about this part Do you think that uh Do you think that assassination attempt was real After this much time has passed the the Butler Pennsylvania. Yeah, one. I mean, did you see that reverse camera shot that came up the other day No, I don't think so they showed the reverse camera shot of the Butler PA Shooting this was like a new footage that hadn't been shown. Oh really no, I missed that uh Yeah, this is just new Oh Either that or they're covering we don't know either that or covering him We love you We love you Now they've us he usher's and photographers on the left side of the stage. This is kind of bizarre That is craze the flag was lowered in a position is this real Where's the flag being lowered or is the camera moving? That's a good question That if they paused to lower the flag though That is but we are li that everything just feels now like we're living in a Kind of like a diorama or something yeah like we're walking in a total true mature It feels like it does it does feel like a like one of those time travel movies where like you go into the future and everything's wrong And you're like oh someone's got to go back and fix this what did we do something was supposed to happen different Go back to show this a little go back to that flag lowering. I want to see that part. I mean that's Flag is lowered in a position that it doesn't look like the cameras move That's crazy That's crazy And it's crazy to think this is how long you were they had this dude up on stage like get him off of the stage It was crazy And then it's odd behavior shows how they stage the famous photo And then he starts moving the camera people come around like wouldn't There be people pushing the camera people away like well whoever could get close to him right now Well, look, I mean, this is why his press agent went to grab photographers after shot the fire then they lower the flag in the frame It's just wild. It is it is weird Well, also Trump had the presence of mine to be like let me make this a photo op one way or the other I mean clear he said the first thing he says is where my shoes like he's like Trump is so cognizant of being the alpha And like like he's he's just the ultimate Genius marketer since PR person so he knows like even in this moment. I got to be strong get my shoes on I'm not walking out of here barefoot, you know, I'm gonna throw my fist up I'm gonna like like he's so that's like that's amazing how hard wired into you that has to be you know what I mean to have it in a moment like that I've always thought there were just So many questions about how this could have possibly happened. Yes, and that are things that are really not answered and I fast and there's and there seems to be no even like desire to get to the bottom of that We got to figure out what happened obviously Because the because the people who are supposed to be figuring out what happened there It's well, they're making apologies. It's CBS about how they're gonna do better going forward If they're the ones if they are somehow the same ones who created this yeah, then of course They wouldn't keep looking into it. It would be so ridden. It would that's that's that's where you realize it. It's like oh Of course they wouldn't they'd have no because you couldn't maintain a real strong enough desire to continue looking at something If you knew there was absolutely nothing there. Yeah, right especially if you had created the false the falsity It's like bring that back up though that flag lowering is unbelievable Bro, they lowered the flag into the shot that is crazy How they stage a famous photo That's crazy they lowered the flag and then what are the other things that says is that how the secret service has always been prepared to act after an assassination attempt That's not even and that's not even mentioning how is ear apparently re-gru this new camera angle makes it look really suspicious I do think it is interesting how they just allow photographers to get right there Like when you think what if somebody's coming to stab and what if one of these people right right? Oh, no You would think you're in a moment of complete chaos and confusion You have no idea where the threat is they have no way of knowing if it's a lone gunman They have no way of knowing whether there's a team of people here right? I mean this is and what happened to that shooter Well, they they ultimately killed them. Yeah, they they took him out or they just put some kid on a roofing If they remember they said they said that they couldn't get on the roof because it was too slanted But then they killed the guy and his body didn't roll off. It's even a dead corpse stayed on the roof It was all of it made no sense and then they said he had no internet history It is very very bizarre This is fun to talk about and look at huh? It's wild that flag-lowering is bonkers. Yeah, that's a little strange and the But the the wound to his ear. I mean bro how What are the odds and also just the way he turned at the moment? I mean, it's the craziest thing ever Just be like that a shot was coming at him and you just like you rolled with it like you're a boxer rolling with a punch Like I thought he said where am I Jews to that's what I thought he said you go to it How did you make crazy if he said that and then if someone went well obviously they're here Yeah, yeah, I just make sure I got my boys with me, you know to do it weird and this totally where am I shoes Did he have them on do they get knocked off or something? I guess I guess we hit the ground at first So I guess he lost them in the shuffle of that First of all imagine being going to something I guess and wearing shoes that are comfortable and casual enough that you Could slip right out You could have some balls. I'll say this whenever Whenever Trump does pass away eventually in time if he does they got a auction off his balls, dude or give They got auction off his balls that would he should start thinking about provisions for that He's already over the average life expectancy or right up there. I don't know they said they were gonna put They were gonna create a $250 bill with his face on you see that yeah Probably because all the money he's printing it'll it'll only be worth 20 but they'll make a nice trump bell Yeah, the trump 250 dollar bill refers to the HR1 1761 the Donald Trump 250 dollar bill act Introduced in February 2025 or representative Joe Wilson Did it pass the bill propose an exemption to laws preventing living people On currency though, it's oh living people can't be on currency the bill proposes an exemption To laws preventing living people being on currency though. It's a symbolic proposal The bill was introduced in the House of Representatives February 2025 It's future in Congress uncertain as proposals often face significant legislative hurdles The US currency denominations having gone above $100 for general circulation You know, I don't know if you feel this way But I I just find myself over the last year Just really getting tired of a lot of this stuff And like it kind of be like one thing if Trump was doing all the the right things And then you wanted a rename the Gulf of Mexico the Gulf of America you'd be like yeah, okay sure That you know like that's fun and I like triggering libs as much as the next guy So like that's fun or let us have a let us have a game each year a competition And whoever whatever country wins a competition. It's like in America South America Mech whoever wins gets gets to name it gets to have a good well that was a great idea But it's like now after like when you're just like kind of like being israel's bitch And then you're burying the Epstein stuff, but I repeat myself it's like Then he goes like we're renaming it to the Gulf of America you're like shut up, dude Like give me something serious. Yeah, it starts to feel like you're just insulting me It's like you start like bragging about how you're redoing the White House or how much nicer it looks than when Joe Biden was there Like you know, I don't care man like the average got like People who are making 70 grand a year can't afford to live yeah, you know If that's a real thing that we're right we live in a society now in my in my grandfather's day You could just work my grandfather worked at a factory. It's only ever did by the end of his life I think he had been made floor manager of the factory But that was his whole life. He just worked in factories all his buddies working factories none of their wives worked They all owned homes. They all had two cars. They played poker on the weekends They sent their kids to college they participated in like the country in the ownership class They owned their house, you know today a 25 year old even if they got a job where they're making 70 grand a year something like that They're living with a roommate. Yeah, you know what I mean like they and their chick is working And they don't know how the hell they're ever gonna buy a house the average house is going for 700 grand Yeah, no idea how they and it's like and they're obviously Stressed eggs and then they're making a DSJ down syndrome children at the time. Yeah And those kids are back in the factories You know what I'm like well, we don't even know because there's so much goddamn poison around and you know all the stuff that that Bobby Kennedy Always talked about it's like I don't know I don't know any of which one of them was the culprit or not It's like is it the fact that we do 50 vaccines now instead of 12 or that there's plastic in our water or that there's all these chemical Like I don't know that all our foods over processed and all this shit I don't know but it's bad. We lead the world in in In like a disease come to America where we don't care if we take care of our health or our Like our procreation. Yeah, well think about even like right the Epstein thing which look Nobody knows exactly and I guess what probably will never know exactly like The entire details of what type of intelligence operation this was and even when people say like oh He worked for massage or something like that. You're like well Somebody doing what Jeffrey Epstein was doing wouldn't have been like An employee of the massage you know what I mean they would have had an actor outside We know already that he was organizing meetings for the massage and Russian like Oligarx we know that a who'd Barack was coming over and like staying at his house and stuff and that the you know that Alan Dershwitz was his Confident in his lawyer. It's like he's all tied up with Israel and the Israel lobby But so if it is what it looks like which is like are you telling me that like a foreign government That by the way is our welfare state that art we pay Portions of our taxes to every year You're saying they ran an op to American children American girls to compromise people or at least there were American girls In the process of this network of events and that you're covering that up Like what and then you're gonna sit here and tell me about how you redid the white house or something And I'm supposed or or even just like the moment like when he called the reporter a fat pig Like he called some female a reporter of fat pig And then you just kind of like Dude you're a scumbag piggy whatever but he's like you're a scumbag dude And it was over an Epstein question was it And six change that President Trump had with the press aboard Air Force one is now going viral It stems from the words that he chose to try to get a female reporter to stop asking questions about the Epstein files Oh Yes, that shows like a there's a nastiness to Donald Trump and when it's harness the right way We all loved it because the people he was taking on were so evil And so when Hillary Clinton goes good thing someone with your temperaments never president He goes because you'd be in jail. We're like Getter, you know, but then you turn it around and like look this wasn't someone in the liberal media asking you about rush a gate for the 19,000th time and you're like shut up She was asking a totally legitimate question like sir you campaigned on releasing these files your FBI director and deputy FBI director and attorney general All told the American people they were going to she has to totally reasonable question about the files And then he just goes to this vicious Like insult and I don't know look I know there's a lot of people out there still support Donald Trump. That's fine, but like I'm out. I just don't I can't Oh, yeah, I can't defend that yeah, I mean Oh, no, it would be crazy if the lady had a name tag on this head piggy right that would if there was another angle And you go, oh man, oh, this is like one of those videos where I blame the cop But then I saw that the guy had a knife. Oh shit. It's like it's almost like a family guy So like why are you like and then and then after people go, oh, you see Trump go This is her name. I was just I don't know. All right. It was Halloween or something, you know, and she was She's just of as Miss Piggy Yeah, that's the only way that I think that would make sense. I apologize if that if that information comes out that just but I think that Erked me because like It was like you start to assume okay, maybe the girls thick or like a you know or As some thighs or something like that maybe right just isn't a body style that he likes um, and so that that's why he was like trying to find that like you think like he was trying to say the thing That'll have her crying tonight when she gets home or whatever her feelings and everybody hates that and also But it's just over it's clearly in that example. It's over his defensiveness. Yeah, his insecurity that this isn't going well for him And that he's covering something up and he looks bad, but it just seemed yeah Remember when Elon said when him and Elon had their their split and that was the thing Elon went to that was his go-to when he got real furious Because oh, yeah, well, let me tell you something it was like your girlfriend saying you have a little dick when you break up or something like that his go-to was You're at trumps in the Epstein files and that's why they haven't come out And that was before he made his whole move to like publicly try to cover them up and I do I got to say Does make you wonder does make you wonder what exactly did Donald Trump do? He definitely knew the guy. He definitely partied with the guy and he's on record I don't know if you've ever seen this a videotape of him talking about how Jeffery Epstein likes the ladies young Like he he knew something about that Do you best to find out there's the they have the quote? I've known Jeffery. I've seen for 15 years terrific guy. He has a lot of fun to be with He likes the beautiful women as much as I do and many of them are on the younger side from 2002 It was almost positive. I have seen it on video, but that's the statement But still like really weird things to say about a guy who six years later gets convicted for soliciting an underage prostitute like Yeah, it makes you wonder what type of control These higher entities have right yeah, because do they do something like that with Trump Where they say okay, we're gonna we have a bullet that's so accurate because who knows maybe they used a drone right heat You know I'm saying and had it 20 feet off or hidden behind the you don't know they could a you know They could have done something like that and they said okay If you don't do this if you don't Whenever this phone rings you don't pick it up and do whatever said you're gonna die right You have to just wonder what kind of things are they using because that could be the ultimate thing Right, you know, I'm saying we're gonna harm someone for your family. Yeah Well, it's something people have always wondered about because you know you get people who Like we know right Do we know for a fact that these are people who will lie the country into war? You know like so these are people who are comfortable with like Killin a whole lot of innocent people for an agenda and in fact, I think like a um uh Henry Kissinger even kind of said like his whole world view was that once you rise to the upper echelons of power There's no such thing as like morality anymore. This is like a grand chess board kind of you know And so like once you look at things like that like just think about like if you were you were like If you're willing to make the decision To send Israel more weapons after you've seen what they're doing with those weapons or even you'll go over there and like Nikki Haley autograph a bomb That's about to go be dropped at like even if you even if you somehow supported what Israel was doing Which I don't know how you could but even if you did like you'd go look It's so horrible that they have to do this But they've got to get Hamazat or more people will end up dying or some you know whatever your rationalization or justification was Still recognized a lot of these bombs are dropping on kids. I'm not gonna autograph it That's something like it's so tasteless and evil But so you're already that type of person What else would they do to control people? Well, it seems like killins not off limits So it does make you wonder like what and and we know some things like from history like we know um The way say like uh the FBI was blackmail and jack kennedy where they were basically um where they yeah they uh Yeah, it's all this all been like uh Well reported on and documented that um in fact kennedy you mean john of kennedy. Yeah, so in fact even in the in the movie that they did they had Because his wife's in exam was jack kennedy Jackie kennedy. Yeah, she has they but they called him jack uh for that was his nickname but uh no they they um What's his name? Um the head of the FBI Um, the jf came with uh Hoover uh John Edgar Hoover like presented Bobby kennedy was the attorney general And he presented him with a whole long uh like document all the women That jfk was cheating on his wife with and then gave him a like you know, don't worry. There's We have all of this will make sure it doesn't get out, you know Hey, who are you thinking a nominating for a FBI director because i'm thinking you do me again, you know like i did And he just and so there's all types of different levels of that shit And you know what's messed up dude is like it's dark and it's twisted But some of it also sounds kind of like There's an excitement and there's a there's an addiction about the nefariousness. Yeah, I think so Something tantalizing about it, you know, and i bet there's something i bet that's true with just power Right, you know like just the power is gotta be a drug. Everything must just be When i was when i first started stand up So this would be like I started in like late 2006 and this was somewhere in 2008 So i'd been doing comedy for like two years and it was my first road gig that i ever did Uh j okerson brought me and it was in Detroit at a mark redlies comedy castle And they at the time like none of us had we none of a sold tickets or anything like that But they papered the room so it's a full room And i had only i had maybe been in front of like 70 to 100 people in like my biggest shows And this was a 350 seat room Papers I was super nervous, but they were an unbelievable crowd like they were it was easy They were just white hot. I was at brand new comic, you know, it's probably doing like kind of horseshit jokes But like i they worked and i was getting less But i had never done a room like 350 people and they were hot. They were just white hot They just loved everything it was easy and just that i remember the feeling of just killing with a room of 350 people Which i had never experienced before and it be almost like just being like intoxicating, you know Like oh just like you know, it's just so great and like almost like there's nothing i could do in life right now That could ever recreate that fear because you know There's something about being a new comic too that like even doing like a big room now It's still fun. It's still great, but it's not quite like that first. I when you're so nervous and then it's so awesome and then it's so But so like imagine the feeling of power Oh, when you could like move nations You know like you could make a decision and i'll tell you there's this tape of Hillary Clinton Right after uh, they overthrew momar kudafi which but was her big They called it Hillary's war It was she was and even Barack Obama in his memoir said she was really the one who pushed him over the edge She was like 50-50 about it Hillary Clinton really got him to do it And they wanted this to be the thing she ran on it for against Iran No, this is against libya Was when they overthrew momar kudafi in libya and she comes and this is when you might remember There's like her famous thing where she goes she goes we came we saw he's dead Ha ha and then just starts cackling laughing and you can see in her the sociopathic excitement That she Just overthrew a government of a nation like and now libya has been a failed state ever since and probably hundreds Thousand the people have died and there's open air slave markets still to this day and even by the time she was running for president 2016 she couldn't run on this anymore because it was five years later and the whole thing was a disaster already But look at the happiness in her face look at the excitement So I mean that is the land of Unconfirmative yes we came we saw he died Did you have anything to do with your gun? I mean she's talking about a human however you feel about momar kudafi You was a rough dictator. She's like about a human being who was dragged through a street by an angry mob and Sautomized to death. Hmm like I'm just saying most normal human beings would have at least a thing in them Where you like you probably aren't cackling about that? Yeah, like a couple days after it happened Yeah, just I guess there's a there's this other world where it's like it's just dark up there But yeah, people are toppling nations people are thinking about world power and world control moving trillions of dollars around You know like it's it's a there so there's there's an element of that and then you know There's obviously an element of like there are ideologues like there are people who believe things like the guy David Wormsor who wrote the clean break strategy who I was arguing with he believes things like he's he's got a world view Right, so he's a Jewish neo conservative who believes that the relationship between Israel and the US is in our interest And all of these things and believes that Israel is the cradle of western civilization and that if we topple these regimes It will improve the region But the reason why a guy like David Wormsor can go to Washington DC and actually get things done Isn't really because everyone there is an ideologue it's because Weapons companies will fund the think tanks that produce that type of bullshit right even though it's the dumbest shit ever His whole plan was that like they would install a Hashemite in Iraq and that the Shiites of Iraq would have to listen to the Hashemites. It's all ridiculous It's like they're like a It's like a Muslim lineage that supposedly is royalty or something like that like the king of Jordan is a Hashemite They're originally from Saudi Arabia. I forget like the whole story, but they're not native to Jordan They're Arabs, but anyway the whole plan is ridiculous But the reason why like Bill crystal like all the Neocons their think tanks were all funded by like Lockheed Martin and Raytheon It wasn't because those guys believed in any of it. It's business It's just like yeah, there's gonna be another war We'll get to sell a whole bunch of weapons to the government and rip them off, you know and make hundreds of billions of dollars So like it's uh, so like I don't know there's just all these things going on at once And I don't know exactly how they control everybody, but it sure is interesting watching all those guys You know, you just like you watch cash Patel on a podcast and then cash Patel, you know when he's in power and man are they different people? Yeah It's wild. I mean It's the wildest thing to me is how kind of Accessible everything kind of seems It's like the fact that like Comedians are trying to be comedians. Well, we're comedians, you know Comedians like ourselves or people that have started a podcast at some point that the fact that we're all that I don't know sometimes it just blows my mind. Well, it's crazy It's a crazy we're involved in it somehow not involved like in an ego-tisc away like we have something, but it's like Yeah, it's just like what the fuck are we doing dude? We and it's it's only because the news just completely fucking shit itself Well, it's there was a weird thing that happened at the exact same time There were these two phenomena where number one was that the media had like been exposed in a really big way And there were a lot of issues they were exposed on but I do think the two most devastating ones to them were COVID and Biden's senility because the the two things are that Number one like I mean there was WMDs in Iraq really degraded the institutions and things like that The Obama recovery there were a lot of things rush a gate was a big thing But like if you look at say I remember arguing with people about this a couple people who I like and and respect But I was arguing with them about so when I was supporting Trump in in 2024 They were like dude, what are you doing you had all these criticism to Trump his first term He did all these bad things and now you're supporting them and I was like look man This is got this is gonna destroy the corporate media and that's like the most important thing in America right now Now what they said they're they're counter to me and at the time we were guessing because we didn't know where this was gonna go But their counter was they go yeah, but Dave last time Donald Trump came in the media ratings actually went through the roof Like MSNBC and CNN got higher ratings out in 2016 when Trump came in and I was like yeah But that's because a rush a gate they got everyone to watch because they said they have this bombshell story And then that turned into nothing but the big difference now is after COVID and after Biden being seen aisle No one trusts those guys anymore So they're not gonna come back and I turned out to be right about that prediction like they the numbers didn't go back up this time And so anyway There is something They are We're like COVID at COVID affected everybody it wasn't like the war in Iraq like yeah You kind of know they lied us into war and a whole bunch of people over there died and maybe if you know someone who went over and served You know and if you're lower on the socio economic scale you're more likely to know someone but like Lot of people don't know anyone who went over to a rack and it didn't really happen here It happened over there, you know and yeah We deal with the occasional terrorist attack or something like that But like it did but COVID changed every affected everybody's life directly and it all got proven to be Bullshit and then Joe Biden it was just I you don't need to pick up a book or even read an article to look at Joe Biden in the average guy I could just go yeah This guy's clearly has lost it right and you're lying to me and so that happened at the same time The media blew every major crisis of the 21st century lied through their teeth and was it were exposed and the technology got to a point Where essentially you could have you would have needed like a multi-million dollar budget to have a studio in a show Just a decade ago or two decades ago. Where is now Now we live in an environment where some random guy yeah can just post something and then he'll have like the CEO of the daily wire Going this kid's a big it. You know, did you see did you see that the the not the CEO it was the like Some title some higher up at the daily wire tweeted of get some kid just some kid Who made like a video he had asked a question at a turning point event and then made some video and then he goes look at the Nazi youth scum so like some regular like The point is when we were younger It would have been impossible for you to even get the attention of that guy Oh if you'd ever got who was the guy on them on the today show the black guy Um Kind of chubby lost a lot of weight. Oh, yeah, Al rooker Yeah, you would have never been ever get out of your talk to Al rooker. That's Al rooker dude Yeah, this is like that's how yeah like who's like maybe you would see a famous person on the street one day And that'd be like exciting But the idea that now some kid some 25 year old like right wing kid could get like Journalist at the New York Times furious You know and like and even this story which I got to say I am a little bit skeptical of the kid uh surely I think his name right because I saw one because I did see the other day that CBS I believe it was did send a camera crew down to one of those places that he claims were and there were kids They are and stuff and they should so it was all it was not exactly what he was representing it to be Well, I do think there's probably widespread fraud there But I'm just saying making the point that this guy at least to me was an unknown unknown entity as of last week He got like last I had seen it was over a hundred million views on the video And so it's not CNN who's breaking that story It's not NBC or CBS. Nobody believes him anymore. They've lost their kind of the lost their credibility I mean they're sitting here sitting here semi apologizing for not even really apologizing just saying kind of My only admit something like shouldn't there be a Class action lawsuit against them. Yeah, is there any code of liability like could there be a class action lawsuit against them against For just yeah, well, that's right. It's not even like you go to jail or there's a lawsuit But how about just like mass firings? Yeah resignation something no instant and then for anyone paying attention You're like dude. We know what just happened the israel lobby just purchased you Barry Weiss is now in charge because you guys are bleeding support You're you're not even in the business of news. You're in the business of an agenda. Yeah, obviously, right? Like it's almost like so I don't even like sometimes with people like Barry Weiss and Ben Shapiro and all these guys people Certainly not fans of mine But it's like I would at least just appreciate just admit here the israel lobby Then at least we could have an honest conversation at least admit your priority here is Israel and then we could talk about like pro just skewing things pro israel. Yes, like they just had those announcements of um Of like that they need who is the guy just said we have to adjust social media to Or we're gonna lose the first amendment. Do you see that guy? Oh, yeah, right. Yes. Yes. I did I did see the video in book market I forget what the guy's title was but also just these people are like so concerned about they'll be like you know There's this rise of anti-Semitism and like fair enough I I personally and maybe I'm biased because I'm Jewish so maybe I'm not you know the one to speak on this But like personally I've always been very critical of Israel and the israel lobby But I'm not like critical of Jews I have regular people are regular people and you shouldn't judge individuals but based on groups I'm against collectivism unlike soren mom donny Um, like I don't I'm an individualist uh But if you're real concerned that there's a rise and hatred toward Jews Isn't it kind of reasonable to go like Maybe you shouldn't have prominent Jews out there saying we're gonna repeal the first amendment like maybe that's not helpful Yeah, I don't know if this does help I mean, I just don't understand why this guy just in israel cyber security billionaire shlomo Kramer says it's time to limit the first amendment We need to control all the social platforms and take control of what they are saying Let's see see this and oh, it's difficult to hear but it's time to limit the first amendment in order to protect it And quickly before it's too late. What do you mean? I mean that we need to control the platforms All the social platforms we need to stack rank the Authenticity of every person that Expresses themselves online and take control over What they are saying based on that ranking the government should Yeah, that's what you want to hear out of a fuck you to thick israeli accent But fuck anybody who says that kind of thing. Yeah, that's right. No, you're my enemy now Yeah, you're the enemy dude. You're gonna control What we say in order to but this is a crazy part to protect the first amendment is george w Bush is lying about the free market is he said when they asmah about the banker ballots I go I thought you're supposed to be a free market guy now all the sudden you like socialism when it's big banks that fail And he said I had to abandon the free market to save the free market That's sure is a nice way of saying nothing Actually, you just abandoned it you didn't save it at all You just bailed out a bunch of rich bankers and actually government taking control of what people are allowed and not allowed to say Isn't preserving the first amendment that's just This is straight up or welley in new speak, but it's we're just everything is there's it's there's this It's there's another level of control. It's yeah, I think like it's never been more obvious that there's another level of control But but also that People are nervous because I don't know if you'd have a guy saying this sort of thing I mean a lot of so freaking out a lot of social platforms. I know tiktok just got bought by Ellison From Oracle And there's a lot of concern that they're gonna Try and you know limit or or dictate what can be said on there, you know Yeah, well, that's what look. I mean that's what all of this is about and this is kind of what I meant by like at least just be honest It looked like the reason this guy's saying this and the reason they just bought tiktok and the reason Barry Wies was just installed at the CBS news is all for one obvious reason Which it's the letter that Charlie Kirk wrote to Benjamin Netanyahu and Benjamin Netanyahu right after Charlie Kirk got murdered Red a couple lines from that letter, but he didn't read the whole letter It is right him a letter and even know that yeah, so the letter basically says we're getting killed out here The Israel side is getting annihilated your mr prime minister one of my greatest joys as a Christian is advocating for Israel and forming alliances with Jews in the fight to protect Judeo Christian civilization So Netanyahu reads that part You know, that doesn't mention any of the rest of this most recently I'm proud to have taken over Ambassador Huckabee's show on tbn where we continually support Israel and the Jewish people um My team and I spent months analyzing these trends into debating ideas that could help you in your country push back Against the disturbing developments anti-Israel sentiment can undermine American support for Israel the purposes letters to lay out your concerns and outline Uh If you get down to it later, I mean he just he basically what he's just saying here is like listen He has a whole proposal for what Israel has to do for their new PR strategy But he's very brutally honest and he's like you guys are getting killed with the young people here And so anyway, that's just the point is that all of this that's why you're talking about limiting the first amendment Because everyone's talking about how evil the Israeli regime is everyone's talking about how much undo influence they have over our Why not just be this be honest about that This is what like I wish they would just tell us why we pay his real every year Right like and I know some of it is that they just buy weapons and it seems like it's like this It's like a lot of defense and technology stuff and um and that's a lot of it's like we just send the money there but um I mean we do send the money there, but then it's used to buy wep you know, it's like part of a A percentage of it is spent on our military company. So right so yes A percentage of it is redistributed from the working class in America to Israel But don't worry a percentage of that is also redistributed from the working class two big weapons companies So if that makes you feel better so that they can use those weapons to drop bombs on behalf of Israel on like Who these in Yemen the poorest country in the Middle East right and then they can sell new weapons to our government We can also weaponize those countries to fight back against us right right Oh, and also you know and look I mean this is the same it's it's the crazy thing with like these uh these guys Celebrating the success of Venezuela. You're like look dude the what we just had an afghan Uh who murdered a few american citizens right because he was one of the the people who was a collaborator with us in Afghanistan And so we felt we had to protect him by bringing them in as we brought in a whole bunch of them here And also Who is a collaborator with us in a war means what he was a 20 year old who grew up in a war So yeah, there's a whole bunch of like PTSD and crazy shit going on there too How many of those are we gonna have out of Venezuela the answer is we don't know we don't know it's a total gas time Yeah, right. Oh, yeah, no, I'm real. I am real concerned about that stuff too man because uh This is from a fact. Well, this is this is what motivated a whole lot of the terrorism problem that we've had to deal with from the very beginning And so you think you're gonna just Fund and arm this genocide for two straight years. There's a whole bunch of people who really do hate our guts over that And but but regular humans like us regular American people are the ones that suffer because we're the ones out on the street They're walking somewhere if there's a mashing like these rich people these fancy or you know like these elites They never deal with anything like that, you know like no, that's all have security and are protected It's like it's the everyday person out on the street He's got to worry about some psychos, you know going off Well, that's what that's the whole thing dude to about the nature of our decadent elites that's so infuriating and there's so many examples like this right We're like even during during COVID if you could think about like how much their lecture and everybody else for not wearing a mask But then you see Gavin Newsom or you see Nancy Pelosi she ain't wearing a mask They're at the fancy restaurant yuckin it up right, but it's people who they live in gated communities But they call you a racist if you believe in a strong border They got armed security, but they believe in gun control for you, you know they get they uh They they you know destroy public schools, but they send their kids to fancy private schools So they don't got it's like they don't got to suffer any of the ramifications of the hell on earth that they bring through for all these other people And obviously like the the biggest victims here are the Palestinian people But yeah, it's also the American taxpayer gets ripped off and we also open look Muhammad Ata who was the lead hijacker right who flew into the north tower He was radicalized when Israel slaughtered a bunch of people in Lebanon You signed up with Osama bin Laden that week, I believe It's like this is one of the me it was one of the biggest grievances That Osama bin Laden had was your support for Israel and what they do to the Palestinian people his other leader to America you mean it in his letter to America I believe it was in there and he had two declarations of war against America Which I think we're even more interesting than the letter to America But he lists his grievances very clear He didn't like that we had our bases in Saudi Arabia And why did we have our bases in Saudi Arabia for the dual containment policy against Iraq and Iran Well, who needed Iraq and Iran contained You know like it's always and so it's like we do this at our own peril Yeah, it's almost like the elites they just they they open up like the game of life and we're all the pieces And we're all though like and they're just playing this thing like it's not even real to them Oh, it's your turn. Yeah, go to the community chest get some money out of there Over there you want some houses sure selling wants some oil get a railroad whatever you need. Oh your dad. Oh, you whatever Oh, it's just so crazy Yeah, but like you said it is more it's so much more exposed now than ever before it is what makes it that's what makes the The time so interesting. Yeah, I will say this. It's interesting This year is gonna be interesting. Do you think that things get even crazier this year or do you think Because I do think there becomes a level of kind of like exhaustion right and it becomes a level of like We're not gonna get any truth. We're not gonna get um And then and then truth people who are trying to seek truth right or trying to share truth That they're they're not even gonna be able to allow be allowed to put their Information out there. I think uh that's probably the biggest fear of the share for me. It's hard to make for Not saying me. I'm just saying for other people. No, I understand what you're saying I think it's hard to make predictions because it's such so many crazy things happen And so many things are gonna happen so like now, right? Okay, well What happens with Venezuela? That's a huge question mark and that's gonna have a huge impact on where the rest of this year goes But where things are right now My best guess is at the end of this year In november. I think the democrats are going to destroy the republicans in the uh in the midterm elections Really and I think I think they're gonna I think they're gonna run and win on On affordability, which has been this you know, which I hate the term because it's like they literally just like It's price inflation. We already had a term for this. It's debatement of currency We got now you come along and you make some other term and then you go oh and the answer is socialism So the answer is we need more government even though the whole problem is that we have so much government We can't afford it. We have to print the money So like I think they've got it completely backward But at the end of the day That's actually what people care about man. People are getting killed out here. What they actually care about is that It's like you know, I talked to my my father-in-law is a truck driver He's been a trucker for 50 years or something like that and um He's you talk to him You know he's like listen. I see how much taxes they're taken out of my Paycheck every week and the price of everything just goes up and up and up That's what he wants to talk about you know, and I mean like that's what that's what the entire work Class of America's thinking about as a trump could sit here and brag that he degraded Around non-existent nuclear weapons program No one cares no one cares like the to the extent that people care were against it And even the people who are for it. It's not act so I just think as of right now He hasn't delivered nearly enough. He he overpromised like crazy and the Ukraine war on day one You know all these things which I think he's he's tried to at least do that But he's failed so far and so unless he can rack up some wins like some real clear For the American people not I liberated the Venezuelans which no one believes was actually the in the the goal anymore The last thing we want as a people here is to have the now there's like this stress of like okay Well, what do we have to do to take care of them now? What's that gonna cost right right? We're over that you know like what were they really doing? What do you guys really trying to do here? It's just like it's just whatever It's a shame to me because also like Look like take if you take Zoran mom Donnie the who just got sworn is the mayor of New York, right like they Is such a funny thing man because they First off they ran Cuomo against him of all the people like he was the establishment figure the the Murderer governor who like killed all these old people and locked down the city and then that just had all this baggage And then he's also a huge Israel supporter of friend Netanyahu's and all that and so they thought the way to attack mom Donnie was to go like He won't even commit to visiting Israel and you're like dude everyone hates Israel right now like what so But in his speech the other day he has this line that of course a bunch of the conservatives are flipping out about But he said we're gonna something like we're gonna shake off Rugged individualism in favor of collectivism And I just find it so interesting that the guy the one guy who's running for mayor It's not a position that matters for foreign policy But he would at least you know, I don't like socialism and I don't like Wokeism and he was one of each But he at least stuck up for the poor Palestinians a little bit and I kind of likes that But it's so funny to hear that guy Embrace collectivism when like hey, you want to see collectivism look at Gaza That's collectivism that's collective punishment that in fact What is the defense oh you want the clip? Yeah, I played the clip We will draw this city closer together We will replace the fragility of rugged individualism with the warmth of collectivism if our campaign demonstrated that the people of New York yearn for solidarity then let this government foster it Because no matter what you eat well, let me let me say my point so the look when I say what's going on in Gaza is collectivism What the number and I've done like a bunch of debates on Israel-Palestine over the last couple years like you know dozens of them and The number one defense. I'm sure you've heard this back to right like the number one thing that an Israel defender would say to you is Don't start a war You know they'll go this is war Yeah, innocent people are dying. It's terrible, but it's war at Hamas started the war and this what happens when you start the war And therefore it's on Hamas right and so like now look there's a lot of things wrong with that defense like Part of it is that like okay. Yeah, but what about a brutal 60 year occupation? What about being kept as permanent refugees for 80 years What about you killing a whole bunch of people like who really started it? But the most fundamental thing that's wrong with saying That's why you don't start a war is that The people we're talking about didn't start a war that two-year-old girl didn't start a war You talking about man is this this mother whose who's cross who just lost her child is she didn't start a war She just that you got kid half the people in guys are kids. They didn't start anything. They just got fucked They just got born into hell, you know like that they didn't start anything and so collectivism is like saying Oh, you're collectively responsible. No you guys as a as a you guys Started this war you go. That's just what bigotry is man That's just blaming everybody for the sins of one group that saying a black guy mugged me the other day therefore blacks Mugs me the other day like no they didn't there's some other black dude had nothing to do with that Who just is just getting blamed for that, you know And so it's interesting to see the guy said like oh, well, we'll shake off actually Individualism is the reason why what israel's doing is wrong is collectivism is what would justify it? What do you think will be different with him in office areas mayor? And do you also think some people think he Um He's actually for the opposition really. I don't know. Do you ever see um you ever he had one of my favorite Woke tweets of all time, which what was the did you ever see the um it's the defunding the police queer liberation Tweet if you just looked that up mom donny defunding the police queer liberation I believe the tweets still hasn't been deleted. It's them. It's a great like a Woke ad Madlib Hmm queer liberation means defund the police So Ron mom died like he was real into that woke shit back then I just love I really does feel like you just picked out Woke words and put them all together um But that's I don't think I think this guy's just kind of like an intellectual lightweight and Kind of goofy I don't think he actually gets that much done in New York City as my guess. I can't imagine but maybe I don't think any of it's good if he gets any of his plans through it ain't gonna be good Well, you know what I like I think and this is just my perception right I can be totally wrong What I liked about him was that it felt like he was the underdog Well, that is true. No, he was he was and the entire stuff like it's always that's the thing that always gets me It's like are you the underdog? Well, I get I get that impulse and I do I share that too I think I was kind of rooting for him to some degree too because of that same dynamic I guess it's just like the problem is that like essentially the Republicans Indoor a whole bunch of socialism, you know like there's a we have giant entitlement programs The you know social security and medicare. They're actually both of those programs are socialist programs But they're socialist programs that redistribute money from a poorer group to a wealthier group Which is pretty indefensible when you think about it like young people are poorer than the old people that they have to work to pay their Social security and medicareed payments for pretty wild. Um, but they're assuming that it's them Yeah, supposedly but what's actually happening is you're transferring wealth from a poor to a richer group with the promise of like you'll get some back one day Um, Medicaid is actually a welfare program that redistributes from working people to poorer people Uh, but their giant socialist programs the military itself is a giant socialist program It's like a big government program. So the Republicans endorse a ton of socialism, you know And then um, the the Democrats whenever the Republicans, you know lead to disaster They go well, what we need is even more what we need is even more government even more socialism And there's just what America really needs is Ron Paul Um, who's you know just turned 90 and I think he's got one more presidential run in him But I'm not sure he might be he might I don't know his emails are getting But look the point is the real look I love rom Paul, but I his emails are getting a little bit They need is they the spell check and you can tell all right listen that's the that's for the guys not perfect But he's the closest to it look I he could be perfect I'm just saying he's got a spell check is shit. Okay, there enough But also we just went through the binding. I don't think he can push an old person. No, I just I'm joking about him He's not running for president again, but rom Paul was right about everything He was right about just about everything and he's and the real answer to all of this stuff is actually Americanism Like true Americanism and the best part of Americanism which was always and that's why that Israeli guy talking about limiting the first amendment so infuriating the best the best what America needs is the bill of rights The Declaration of Independence our Constitution what we were always supposed to be what we abandoned long ago That's actually what we need and you know, I saw um Yeah, good friend of mine who I love and really really respect um, I think it's brilliant Darrell Cooper and he was saying on Twitter today that like he goes dude It's not even point it's pointless to make the argument that this war in Venezuela was unconstitutional You know, he goes it's a pointless argument to make because We've shredded the Constitution years ago and we've already accepted that presidents have these these war powers And so like I mean, I don't want to mischaracterize what he was saying But I think it was essentially something like that like the argument just rings hollow But I just kind of respectfully disagree where I'm like no man like we either have the Constitution or we don't And it's a whole lot better to have it and could anyone read the Constitution and actually this way said stop winding about Action In the Constitution unjustified or unconstitutional or whatever you look weak and might as well be complaining that it doesn't follow homerobby's code Trump knows that america leader judge by whether they win or lose nothing else now look He's right about that to an extent right like if Venezuela turns around tomorrow and is a bastion of freedom or something like that Then that's a huge win for Donald Trump and he's gonna be able to brag and people will go oh Dave you care about morality in the Constitution But this worked so like he's right about that But the point is that it's like dude If you just like the Constitution claims to be the law of the land the Constitution is what created this government So if you're going to accept that they don't have to live under that own Constitution Which they put a hand on the Bible and a hand in the air swear our politicians Donald Trump if they like the political class who swears to God in front of all of us that they will uphold and defend this document Like I'm not arguing any of us are bound by the Constitution But they are they swore in oath to it. You know what I mean? They went into politics. That's there. Yes They're their obligation in front of their nation and in front of God was to defend and protect the Constitution You can't tell me dude that it's constitutional for not upcountry that clearly poses no threat to us Even if the drug accusations were true. It's not like an immediate It's not there's nuclear missiles lined up on Cuba and the president has to take action It's you had all the time in the world to come to Congress to have a debate about this and for our elected representative government to You know like vote how they feel about the war make their arguments to their kids But if you're telling me that are the legal justification that they're going with is that he's not the president That's what Marco Rubio said no, we didn't get the president of Venezuela. We just got some drug dealer He's just a gangster. He's not the president. That was Marco Rubio tweeted today Oh, that's the like dude come on. This is so illegal. This is so unconstitutional And if you're just going to sit back and allow a government to be that like okay Well that government who can violate the Constitution against Venezuela is powerful enough to violate every American citizen's rights as well Yeah, it's weird. It's like we you have to if you stand up for you have to stand up for it Yeah, that's right and and also one thing I was interesting was whenever Ken Burns was here We talked about the Declaration of it. Oh, this is a secretary of marker Rubio right here It says Maduro is not the president of Venezuela and his regime is not the legitimate government Maduro is the head of the cartel day Los Solas a narco tear organization Which is taking possession of a country and he is under indictment for pushing drugs into the United States Who is he be he's being indicted by us But what proof do we have that he is the head of the cartel day Los Solas? Zero zero has been offered zero has been offered that was it's not even clear the thing exists Yeah, I was looking forward to it. I feel like some low-level mid network thing It's all bullshit and look like what they could say which is might be true I'm actually not sure but this might be true But they'll be like he lost the election the election was illegitimate or something like that It's like yeah, like I referred to them on Twitter as a sovereign nation and some a bunch of people work saying that oh They're not a sovereign nation, but it's like listen man first of all we do business with Dozens of countries that just don't have elections like that are just aren't democracy at all And also you're saying the last election was bullshit Is there a Trump said about us? Like is that so by your logic could anyone just come in and depose the bite like even Right wing our Trump supporter who believes the 2020 election was stolen Do you really believe that China or Russia could have come into America two years ago and just Kidnapped Joe Biden like you would have no problem with that I think you'd write away be like no no no motherfucker We will decide whether our illegitimate government stands or falls or what and so all of these things is all just complete nonsense I wonder how the people there feel well There were some people celebrating for sure or saw that but then also some of those celebrations were happening in different countries and stuff like So you don't know exactly what was going on one of them was also from a soccer game after a soccer game in the streets So you don't know some of exactly what's happening and that also doesn't mean it's gonna lead to something that they'll be celebrating I mean look there is could be a nightmare for them. Saddam Hussein was a Sunni Bathast party right the Sunnis are like 20% of the Iraqi population and I think 60% are our sheites I'm definitely like sit there's a super majority of sheites in the country And so when Saddam first got toppled a lot of people were celebrating A lot of them were sheites who had been brutally oppressed by Saddam Hussein. So they're celebrating But they didn't know that they were about to enter into the most brutal civil war We're just hundreds of thousands of people were gonna get killed again I'm not saying because it happened that way in Iraq that means it's gonna happen that way in Venezuela But the idea that the people are celebrating day one like okay. Yeah, look Maduro was not a good guy And he was a socialist dictator. So like okay fine. There's people happy he's gone But that don't mean that what replaces them can't be worse. Yeah Yeah, it's just and then if we're involved in it, you know How much are we there to help that's the question that you used to feel different I used to feel like we're there to help and then now it's like are we there to help or we just there to serve somebody's interest, you know Um, and not even like a regular person's interest, right? Yeah, that's right one thing that Ken Burns said uh And he did like the Ken Burns documentary. He just um He's a documentary. You know, he is uh, he had he has a new documentary about the American Revolution But he said that the Declaration of Independence um, it talks about the pursuit of happiness, right And we talked about it being like an active document. It's not like a receipt, right? It's like a it's kind of a um It's an evolving document, right? Like we're not guaranteed to have an America, right? Yes What was Benjamin Franklin's line was right like some woman said what have you given us and he said a republic if you can keep it Which is like a great like and then Thomas Jefferson had some line where it was like a The tree of liberty has to be watered periodically with the blood of tyrants and patriots So like even they we're going like this thing is gonna have to be kept like it's there's gonna be a process of having to continue this thing like it's not just like oh It's written down on a piece of paper. So it's a magic potion and now this guarantees a free society But I will and I will say also like because there's like this debate about like a a propositional nation Verse like a blood and soil nation or something like that and I'm not saying like America isn't just a nation of ideas. It's a nation of people like who actually existed and a common culture and a tradition and like all of those things and Christianity and like there's a lot of forces there But the fact that our first founding document is the declaration of independence and the fact that we became the wealthiest most prosperous Freest country in the world is not a coincidence dude and like it's it's so beautiful that the store that there's no country in history That is started the starting place is that we say Man should be free and also I love this about the guy is like in the like the first sentence or the first couple sentences They say itself evident. They say they say it's self-evident that god wants us to be free Which is not actually self-evident But I just love that as a starting point that is just like you know what here's our starting point. We're not debating that There's a god and god wants us to be free and then it says and these are my words not the the thing but then it says Governments are just a thing that man institutes to protect our liberty and if governments not protecting our liberty then we have a The right and maybe even the obligation To violently overthrow that government and institute a new one that will protect our frit like that concept of like the Individual and freedom and the natural It never been like based on a government or a country based around that idea Well, I think that idea had never really occurred. I mean it had been like I think you were coming out of a time where there was a lot of Colonialism it was like us as a group and what are we doing? Yeah, you know our flag and our you know our what are we doing like as a group? You know um and then America it was like no we can be free you can be free Yeah, I think it lit the pilot light of like creativity and individualism and people Yeah, no, that's right and and was something always to strive for like even when we weren't living up to it And in fact even right like I mean and look the civil rights movement is complicated and stuff But at the heart of it that was Martin Luther King's that was what he said in his famous I have a dream speech where he said I forget the exact line But it was something like he said We went to deposit our check And we were told there were insufficient funds or something like that. He had a line like insufficient funds But essentially what he was saying Which he did spell out in other speeches Was that he's like You said all men are created equal You said all men have an alienable rights So what do we talk it like he was able to play on that to go right The metaphor is a bad check mark does insufficient funds but it's basically but the bad check is that he's saying like look We have these constitutionally protected rights here like lighting how the nation defaulted on the promissory note of the declaration of independence and Constitution leaving black people to cash a check for liberty that came back unpaid So he so he was able to say hey look if the declaration of independence means what it says Then you can't have Jim Crow what do you talk and so like even like it was always something that we and then of course um America did relatively to every other country that it ever existed have the most free market economy ever You know the most free market laissez-faire capitalist country that was ever Created and that led to the most prosperity ever We didn't we didn't become a rich country like in the way that the French or the English did it wasn't like oh You're you're an empire that goes around and colonizes other countries and extracts their resources back to yours We just built things we just had factories and men who worked and you know what I mean like So anyway, I just I think that There's there's like There's been a huge Like we've gotten away from that as a country for far too long But you think as people we have or do you just know no? I think just as the as the upper realm and as the leaders and as the politicians I think we've a look as people I would say we've allowed Our politicians and our government to get away from all of those things and for the government to And we've been too comfortable well, and they've just been amassing more and more power And it's like a it's this this build-up effect where they always take a little bit more and a little bit more and a little bit more And then you get to a point where the government spends like over seven trillion dollars a year It's like unthinkable and forcing most people in a lifestyle that makes it tough for them to even have time to See who they're voting for and to know what's going on. That's right And it's so hard to even know what's going on. It's so hard to find good information and real information It's just you know, and now it's like where do you even get that from? It's really really tough because you can't like You gotta just believe anything Candace says man. That's the new world we live in It's I don't know dude. She's pretty. I mean she's brave dude. Oh, she's brave. That's an understatement That's where it's at the beginning that yeah Yeah, dude her kids play like games or like instead of playing Consumers they played who killed Charlie Kurt What do you think about journalism before you go we got to get you out here in a little bit they just had the They just had this stuff in Minnesota recently where the where this young guy Nick Shirley I'm sure you're from me with him now and like you were saying earlier like you know weak everybody knows his name He's been YouTube and he's been doing kind of like I would say kind of vigilante journalism for a while but like he kind of he was going to investigate some of these Somali daycare centers What were your thoughts on some of that and then what do you think about vigilante journalism like I think this is gonna be like gasoline on on just like Anybody becoming a journalist now. Yeah, I love that. I mean, I think it's great and again That's not to like vouch for this kid or something Do it for a long time guys like no, I think those guys I think those guys are really important and one of the things that I found so Fascinating about this was just that Look like there's been there's been reporting on the the fraud and in Minnesota before this and there's even been like they clamped some indictments and stuff like that but like Do you just the fact that this guy is driving the media narrative now and then you see CNN and and and CBS them They got a now respond to hemp like he's it used to be and I remember like when I started paying attention to this stuff Which has been like 20 years or something like that now um The way it worked 20 years ago was that the New York Times Sunday paper came out every Sunday and then that dictated What all the corporate media outlets were gonna talk about for the next seven days like this was in the times And so it filtered out now it's this guy with a YouTube channel or with a Twitter account and they can go and kind of like It they can expose that like there's this scandal And then like by exposing the scandal it also exposes the media and the justice department And it's like why is this kid the one who's bringing us this information right? But I do think going forward that's gonna kind of be the new normal Well, we already had the information right? I think a lot of the information was already there But it is interesting of how it served to you and how what you'll Like why now is it so much Did it seem more real because he was right there with the people you're hearing the Sure, I think so and all the windows are blacked out at all these places um And then some of it like the leering center that seemed too on the nose to be like that always seemed fake It just seemed crazy that no one would catch this. I mean like that. Yeah, it did seem a little bit too much You're telling me a parent is dropping their kid off there or even somebody that works there There's pretending and they're if they're getting money and they're gonna have that it just seemed that seemed like It's it's it's it's it's seem almost too on the nose. I know what you mean. I know what you mean But what is interesting is that you know Tim Waltz um He ran on this as vice president now he said it at the vice presidential debates that he was bragging about how they Uped the money that was going to daycare and that him and Kamala Harris were gonna take this program and federalize it And bring it to the national level. It's just it really is something you know, I don't know I find like I think there's so many interesting conversations about all of that but I think that um Like it does it kind of ties back into the stuff I was saying about inflating the currency destroying the purchasing power of the dollar now everybody It's so weird to me when you think about like like when I was saying like my grandfather could have his wife not work in Own a house and we are so much richer Then he was or the technological advances between then and that we should be living at such a higher standard of life And yet almost no young people can do that today like literally the only people I know who can do that today are like rich successful Comedians like if you know like rich people could have their wife not work That's the only people who really do that these they were pretty much breaks my heart Like breaks my heart that both parents have to work all the time if they don't if they don't really want to Well, so now while the while these Democrats are talking about how the more socialism right the government should provide your Childcare your daycare for you now. It's like Does anyone ask like do we want to live in a society where our kids are raised in daycare Like I don't know I got I got little kids and I know people and I I know when I say this people get upset sometimes I don't mean to be like judgmental of you personally because I know if you put your kid in daycare Then this seems like I'm attacking you or something like that But like I just can't imagine a people drop their babies babies Off at daycare dude. I managed to daycare dude when I was like 15 and a half Bro, dude. I love you. I will never drop my babies off with you at 15 and a half For you crazy when I was 15 I might have even 15. I'm a 16 But dude, I remember one time I'd stay out really late my buddy and I were it Been actually stealing boat radios to put a radio into my car and we're like oh dude nobody's monitoring these boat radios like at the marina Let's go there get some radios out of the air But there's some different there's like some of the wiring is different or whatever anyway fucking nightmare So we just got to work and I was like well, dude I'm just gonna lay in my car for a little while Because we'd we'd been drinking a decent amount of cells. I was gonna lay my car for a little while and then I'll wake up whenever the sun pops up and then I'll manage a daycare whatever and then So dude for pro I fucking I guess the sun like it wasn't that hot or whatever I parked like where like the treat like I was in the shade of a tree too much and I One of the um the owners or whatever came over and knocked on when it was like at eight And I was supposed to be there at 630. It's like 8 am and dude Like my car to smell like vodka and had all these fucking radios all over my hands were cut up from like getting the radios out and Anyway nightmare, but yeah bottom line dude. I ran dude. We you probably shouldn't send your kids to that daycare Yeah, but I'm just saying there anybody can do a daycare, right and we dude we watched terminator I remember with them kids and then kids were little yeah, they shouldn't have been watching it You know, yeah, that I appreciate your honesty there But it is like a thing where shouldn't it be why I still go bad some of us still wake up and I'm like fuck they shouldn't been watching it Well, there's one scene we see like three tits in it or whatever or total recall total recall that's I remember that That's the three to watch the recall and there's a scene where the three tits are on there and there's all these kids looking at I'm like do y'all shouldn't be watching this that wasn't and we were we were watching it That was a problem. I suppose I forgot that I wasn't I felt like I was in the class or whatever Well, I will say a lot of the reason I think why uh, you know These people who are like the big government Progressives and stuff like that and and the whole kind of like neo liberal culture in America Which is always kind of like for years been demonizing you know straight white men and demonizing patriarchal families and all of this there's a reason why um Like big central governments don't like The family structure and religion and community and all of those things because they're all a hedge again power and the System right like this inflating the currency That leads to all the things that we were talking about right But that is actually very good for the political class It's very like inflation in general is very good if you hold debt If you're a big debtor inflation is your friend because you pay off the debt like if you if you Want if you want to buy something But the money is worth a lot less well now your hamburger used to cost five bucks now it costs 15 bucks That sucks for you if you're the person who wants to buy it But if you owe a thousand dollars and now you're selling that If you're in the class yeah, yeah, yeah, you owe less than you did before so like if you have debt inflation is your friend And also In the old dead well in the old It's not a bad thing to have in an inflationary environment But in the old system like in the old order right My grandfather would work at the factory all day long my grandmother would work You know taking care of the kids and managing the house and cooking and cleaning and all that stuff all day long But only one of those incomes was taxable Right my my grandfather's was taxable but you can't tax my house wife grandmother But if she goes into the workforce now there's two taxable incomes Then you hire a daycare worker that's a third taxable income And so there's just way more revenue go into the federal government when the government's raising your kids And now you're other than your mother. Yeah, but it's not really so good for the babies Like it's better for the babies if their mom and dad are the ones raising them or their grandmother or their aunt or someone who's just inherently always gonna love them more than some worker at a daycare Well, that's why when a kid's mom comes to pick them up from a daycare as opposed to your baby Citricone and pick you up or something There's just a different feeling about it even watching it. There's a different feeling about it Yeah, you know, and then you it's also like if you get someone else to work thing You need another car now they need another car to get to work right yeah, and so then you have gas lobby An auto lobby it said are gonna push for those things you need those things. That's right I don't know, but then also it's like dude I feel so bad sometimes because I get stuck in these circles of just being like Like a Debbie down or sometimes, you know, and I don't think that that's that's not good No, no, and I think no you're right. It's not good and you don't want and I also don't think we should be a downer like I'm still somewhat pessimistic on the short run here I don't think things are gonna all these problems are gonna be solved tomorrow But like we do we're at the precipice of a new age That's gonna be something wild that none of us can really understand you know, I was who was it was saying um Might have been Jimmy car. I can't remember somebody was talking about When AI gets pointed at physics and then we can like actually have AI like inventing new things about physics Because like all the things that have like really changed our world are related to the study of physics like that you know and the fact that like Dude My grandfather fought in world war two This is a thing that happened in the previous century there were two world wars, you know things looked pretty bad there for a while But people getting slaughtered by the tens of millions In world war one fighting and you know 17 year olds fighting and trench warfare and stuff like that And now we're at we live in an age where like in infection that would have killed you You know 100 years ago is like you go grab some of moxasillin you're fine, you know people literally you get strep throat That's like no big deal man strep throat without a moxasillin is a really really big deal And so we have oh my my son was saved with a um Open heart surgery that just 30 years ago You just what didn't have and I would have lost a kid like so we do live in this amazing time And we all have more of a voice and more of a platform and more opportunity to like to work together and find truth Like I think there's a lot of really beautiful shit going on But part of that beautiful thing is that we can expose how ugly This corruption is and then Even as somebody who's really lived in the world of like being furious at these guys for how corrupt it is the more you get The more information you get it's so much uglier than you so it's like it's like a metaphor for life in general right in life You got to deal with there's like tremendous beauty and there's tremendous tragedy And we all have that within us and you all and you got to somehow Like stomach the tragic part of it so that you can get to experience a little bit of the beauty, you know Yeah, and even we're able to sit here and at least like feed ourselves We're able to talk about things like there's places where people have no freedom at all right now, you know, yeah This is this video by Jimmy Carter here Jimmy Carter drops a wild take on AI and physics. Oh, yeah, I was Jimmy Carter I was right. He's oh yeah, and this was on I think it was on um is this on trigger an armetry. Yeah He's excellent. Let's play it the other thing is physics so This is Peter Teals point, but you minus the screens from any room. We're living in the 1970s, right? So nothing's happened in physics since 72 string theory has not got us anywhere But if you take the compute power of AI and point it as at physics now Everything else in science is stamp collecting right physics is the real thing that gave us everything Every bit of technology that we have comes from the physics department and You know what happens when you point AI at that that's a That feels to me like something that people aren't really thinking about and is incredibly Could be incredible We could have a world of Plenty where there's no you know if we if we increase productivity by 50 times And there's a human flourishing fantastic. I hope that's the world But they but we've done that and they have it and I'm not disagreeing with Jimmy. This is obviously This is just a hopeful thought that he has and it's a beautiful thought Yeah, look like who knows or maybe the AI will become our overlords and we'll live in some terrible But like you know what there's still that hope and so then you know You got to keep moving forward and there were there were more hopeless times than this That people and um and I do think that it's like Look, it's it's quite possible that we are going to come into an age where it's essentially impossible For politicians to propaganda is their own citizenry and it does seem like we're moving much closer to that and that But you mean by that tell me a little bit more about it. I mean, so what does propaganda is their own citizenry mean? Well look just so to be clear so living through So in 2001 I was like 18 right it's born in 83. I was 18 in 2001 So you had 9-11 the whole country is totally traumatized um for all of 2002 the whole we invaded Iraq in 2003 for all of 2002 They just laid out this war propaganda and They're which was you know the Israelis played their role and the Israel lobby of course and Benjamin Netanyahu who came and testified before congress that You know all this stuff and um Perez was a former prime minister of Israel wrote an op-ed in um in the Washington In the Washington Post and a Houd-Berock Jeffrey Epstein's good friend wrote an op-ed in the New York Times all saying You know Saddam Hussein has weapons of mass destruction and if you overthrown blah and they convinced Americans I mean they really convinced Americans that Saddam Hussein was had or was building nuclear weapons And he was friends with Osama bin Laden and if we didn't go overthrown He was gonna hand these nukes that he didn't have off to these terrorists who he wasn't friends with and that they were gonna Newt Kansas or something like that we fall for the same book trick, but the thing is All people everybody who people look to to get their news like the entire Republican base They were getting their news from Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity who would just and Mark Leven and these guys We just repeat the government propaganda over and over and over again. They were nothing other than in effect State propagandists just repeating it and then liberals look to the New York Times and Judith Miller was Repeating the state propaganda and her source was Chalibi the same source that the Neal content who by the way turned out to be like an Iranian spy essentially but regardless They were able to Today If Donald Trump was trying to sell us on something like that He doesn't have Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity who will just repeat his propaganda He's got Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens those are the biggest right wing commentators in America They're gonna destroy that propaganda for you know like it's like the media. It's not state Media anymore. It's actually independent media And so their ability to like launch another propaganda campaign like this is just it's not what it used to be And so I think that leads you know, this leads to the potential of a much better world Yeah, I mean even today when we're looking at the Venezuela thing we can pull up clips of other other people's thoughts and theories on it Yeah, we can get a better bigger look at it. Yeah, that's right And they actually have to kind of like face our ideas now like it's interesting like even even Even if you watch though, I mean, I get it a lot they flip out about me But like if you watch the way they flip out about Candace or the way they flip out about Nick Fuentes or Tucker Carlson or someone like that It's like but they have to flip out about them You know in years prior they would have just marginalized and ignored these guys got tried for a long time Well, they got Tucker fired from Fox News, right? It doesn't matter. He's bigger. He's bigger now So what now what are you gonna do and then Nick Fuentes? What are you gonna do? He's banned off everything? You know, I mean, it's not I guess Twitter and rumble, but so what are you gonna do and he's huge is bigger than ever Maybe bigger than ever you had it on your show. Yeah, how was it? What is he like? Is he bigger is he small? He's not big. He's not big guy. He's a small. I mean, he's not like tiny, but he's not So we said he rides a bike is that true or not? I did not see him on a bicycle I can neither confirm nor deny I believe he took a new burl. Okay studio someone said he wrote a bike to him. Oh, isn't obvious He told me he took a new bird of the studio. I did not see it with my own eyes. Okay. How he got there. He could have got a new bird black It was certainly a new bird white No, you know, honestly My my impressions of I liked Nick and my always seems like a fascinating. He's obviously fascinating. He's fast He's people are fascinated by him. Well, he's brilliant and he's hilarious Which is already something that just like I just like that. I like funny piece fucking Life dude. He's definitely brave And you know, we have we have some pretty large areas of disagreement. I think But I've always kind of believed like I've always kind of believed like okay, so then It's just maybe this is kind of like a little naive or something But my attitude is always like all right, so we got some areas of disagreement. So like Hey, let's talk about them And let's kind of like let's have more conversations and more debates and more you know what I mean and and just uh You know, I think he gets a few things wrong But then again, he gets some really major things right and I think that this is part of the reason why they're all so scared of them You know, if you want to say that like Nick Goes down a road of like racialism and even it's not exactly that he like Like it's not that he like is praising Hitler and Stalin He's saying some complementary things about them or something like that But if you want to say that like going down this road of like racialism and um Kind of revisionism about some brutal dictators in history If you want to say hey, that's wrong and that's off limits or something as like a cultural rule or a cultural norm Well, how the hell is the guy who's defending a genocide gonna tell me that that's the case You know what I mean? It's like oh you guys you guys are gonna tell me like oh Nick Nick Fuentes is morally reprehensible Says the people signing the bombs that are gonna drop on babies. I agree. Sorry So you've lost that it's just like to me. It's like that's over You lose the ability to get keep this conversation and now people like us will decide who the hell we want to talk to And I decide Nick Fuentes is a very relevant interesting person who I'd like to talk to yeah I don't think there's anything wrong with talking to most people That's what I think most of every now and then there'll be somebody like I don't think I would talk to them But also it's wild that people assume you know everything about somebody When you're gonna have them on the podcast are you gonna talk to them it's like Dude, sometimes I haven't looked like I'll know the person. I'll be intrigued by one or two things I heard from them But I'll have no idea. Sometimes if they were um You know if there's been others stuff that people widely disagree with or whatever Well, yeah, yeah, like the response or the responsibility then which I think is ridiculous is that it's like you're endorsing Everything they've ever said if you agree with them on one thing or something like that But I do think you know when Nick was on Pierce Morgan who by the way for the record I really like Pierce Morgan too I'm not like and so I like Nick. I like Pierce. I like I love Pierce. I think his show is actually really great He has on a lot of great guests. It's a circus at times But I think it's like a really important circus, but the thing that that's a great statement Some of these things are circuses. It's but it's a really important circus when you talk about like podcasting or some of these types of interviews It's like well he had he had like he said a ton of things. He had Wesley Clark debate Scott Horton. He had um he had Norman Finkelstein Norman Finkelstein debated Benny Morris like these like huge very interesting debates with really brilliant people You know like and um, but anyway, so when Nick was on it was almost like there was the conversation that was going on They're both speaking past each other completely. It's it's almost like like Pierce does not understand the phenomenon that this kid is But to me the more meta like kind of analysis of it like what was going on there is that What what I think what Nick represents in a lot of ways is Okay, there's been now in the country for at least 30 years Maybe a little more than that Really exploded in the last 15 years. There's been this attempt by every single institutional force To police What Americans are allowed to say by shaming people as racist sexist anti-Semitic all these these is and look you know because the funny thing about Someone like Nick is people will make the point they'll be like well look you could criticize Israel without criticizing the Jews and you're like yeah, hey, I do that every day And you know what I get called for it by Mark Leven a Nazi yeah, so it doesn't so what Nick in a way to me at least Represents is a big fuck you to that whole game. I reject that whole paradigm if you you're not gonna Police me by calling me sexist racist or or anti-Semitic because I say I am all those things right so now what now You know so now so if you come at Nick the way Pierce did where you go you play let me play a clip of you That's horrible what you said right there. I think you're a big it and he'll go yeah fuck you. I am Whereas when I talk to Nick and I go all right, dude listen I think shutting conversation down with accusation of bigotry is fucked up But what do you actually believe here? He actually opens up and gives you a much more nuanced take and like no Is he a few clicks to the right of me? Definitely is sensationalist or two he'll sure and there's a lot of sarcasm and all of that if I could see him Being a conductor or I could see him being a The guy at the circus who's like dealing with all the animals he would be perfect at that And I say that respectfully because Yeah, he's just he's good at Doing it all himself, right? But you have to have those moments that are that are bonkers out there or that seem bonkers to people. Yeah Absolutely. I also just think like in that you know, it's like from being doing stand-up comedy Which I you know, I know you know too. It's like you get you you develop a bit of an eye for talent And it doesn't even mean like it's not a question of whether like you agree or disagree or whether they're your favorite comic or not your favorite Like but you could you could love really edgy really filthy comedy and you'd still go Nate Bargaz is a beast of a talent You know what I mean like you just recognize talent. Yeah, he's very good at what he does and then and Nick Nick's ability Like it just as a broadcaster his talent is like Legendary. I mean he's like he's second to none. Maybe there are some tide with him But like like Tim Dylan's ability to just ramp into a camera Nick Fuentes has that level of a bill and so there is a part of it too where you watch you watch all of these guys You know freak out, but you're like look man The kids really good at what he does he represents a lot of people He was de-platformed for having views that actually a lot of people have and also there's just look like there's new wants to A lot of it shit. I think that being racist and what was he de-platformed from from YouTube? Yeah, YouTube He was kicked off Twitter. He was kicked off like everything at one point I'm not sure what he's what he's back on now Yeah, I have it. I don't know a lot of the stuff that he's you know I don't know a lot of the things that he said. I mean, I know I've heard him say the inward I've heard him say definitely said that some other stuff But some of the same word clips go hard dude. I'll be honest with you and some of them. I've seen black people Loving them do mash-ups. It's always always something where there's always been a real weird dynamic about how um being offended Being offended by words or jokes or it is such a white chick thing But they project that arm to black people, but actually black people because I've known a few of them are like the The least offended people ever like you know, it's it's just so there's a weird dynamic there too Also though and I'll say maybe this will be a real controversial thing to say at the end I do think that There's we've we've lived under a a world order for a long time where being a bigot is the worst thing in the world It's like the worst thing you can be as racist You know and part of that is because That you know we live in the world order that defeated the Nazis and so the the biggest villain of all time is viewed as the racist And the greatest liberator of all time are viewed as the anti-racist and the biggest villain in the religion of modern America Like the devil is eight off Hitler and Jesus is Martin Luther King That's kind of like the the way popular, you know, the culture is constructed I think that There is actually a lot more nuance to bigotry and that everybody has a bit of bigotry in them and but I think that America It is true to some degree that Americans have been replaced by immigration policy from their government America went from being a 90% majority white Christian country to now being It's like in the 50s percentage and may even be a majority minority country in the next couple decades And then white people might ultimately be a minority in this country going forward and they should be demonized Yes, this was done this was done against the will of the domestic population No, there was never a referendum on open borders and massive racial change in America because it would have failed Note that country wouldn't have supported it And there is going to be a group of people not just white people But there are going to be a group of people who wish that America remain majority white And that doesn't mean you have to hate black people or that doesn't mean you have to hate Muslims or hate Latin American or Latino people or whatever It's like there's nuance between there's a view where you go Hey, I want America to remain majority white because that's kind of what America's always been And I want it to continue being what America's always been That doesn't mean I want to reinstitute slavery or have a genocide or something like that And if you're a white person you're like, well, what the fuck I don't exist Why am I supposed to root for my own destruction? I don't have a place to exist that fuck that dude Well, it would be crazy to go so sick of like There's just so it's like Yeah, it's just so sick of white people are always the bad people I'm sick of your movies of white people are as bad people and that's one of the things that's craziest about The genocide stuff It's like well now you have a group of people you have Israel and their government that has set the bar Who the new bad people are dude they act like it's anything but It like it's anything dude I was listening at Mark Levin gave a speech about the rise of anti-Israel Sentiment and anti-Semitism any discusses doesn't mention the genocide Like as if that's not a part of it. It's like everything. It's like it's like you mentioned everything except the part of it There's this one tiny detail you're missing Which is that you committed a genocide in four times we're talking my whole life that if somebody is doing like something like that Hitler and the Nazis did that it's wrong right all these movies all the books Some of that many of that are paid to see and pay to read and wanted to absorb you see Obama's speech writer She's the Jewish chick Obama's speech writer, but she goes the holocaust training really backfired Because now people are conditioned to see like when a big powerful state is just killing helpless captive people That they view that as the same as like the Nazis do that so she's actually going like oh the real problem with all this holocaust education Is that now people are pissed off when we try to do it? Like Jesus Christ lady You said that out loud into a microphone. Yeah, here it is right here. Yep And so while in the 1990s, you know a young person probably wasn't gonna find Al Jazeera or someone like Nick Fuentes Today those media outlets find them they find them on their phones It's also this increasingly post literate media less and less text more and more videos So you have tiktok just smashing our young people's brains all day long with video of carnage and Gaza And this is why so many of us can't have a sane conversation with younger Jews Because anything that we try to say to them they are hearing it through this wall of carnage So I want to give data and information and facts and arguments and they are just seeing in their minds carnage And I sound obscene And you know, I think yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right We see the dead babies and that believe it or not these dead babies are having an effect on people The oh people are feeling feelings who would ever have thought when we witness children being tortured to death by the tens of Thousands we think about that and your bullshit propaganda doesn't work as well This next part is actually the craziest part of the world of Paul's it miss her. What's in here about the Statistics statistics at the moment, which by the way, it's not even like she has a statistical argument I know, but it's they try to build a graph or some it's more like it's more like I see I've seen thousands of images of dead kids Yeah, and then you're calling me a bigot And it wasn't a choice I made with my brain. It was a choice. I made with my heart you idiot. Yeah, it's not like I you can't Rationalize me into thinking that genocide is okay. You cannot do it. Yeah, I don't care how many graphs or People you interview or some you cannot do it. It's not it's not in here. It's in here. That's how I know it's wrong Yeah, come on. Let's play a little more the very smart I think that that we made on Holocaust education to serve as anti-Semitism education in this new media environment I think that is beginning to break down a little bit Because you know, Holocaust education is absolutely essential But I think it may be confusing some of our young people about anti-Semitism Because they learn about big strong Nazis hurting weak and mischaded Jews And they think oh anti-Semitism is like anti-Black racism right powerful white people against powerless black people So when on TikTok all day long they see powerful Israelis hurting weak skinny Palestinians It's not surprising that they think oh, I know the lesson of the Holocaust is you fight Israel you fight the big powerful people hurting the weak people Yeah Captive people a people who can't leave don't have the option to go anywhere. Imagine that's hand even leave Yeah, like that's a big part of it, but it is like saw it's like a huge game of fucking saw But it is amazing just to me that she said that out loud and didn't think to herself. Oh, huh That's the scary part like man. Oh, I if I just looked at this from the other perspective Yeah, what I'm saying is that like oh, we're actually against holocausting Powerless people if you'll sociopathic almost to be like oh, yeah, I just You know, I don't know It sure does sociopathic is a good way to put it Yeah, I mean, I think it's like yeah, she's talking about the topic of all of this shit Whether it's Charlie Kirk's letter to Netanyahu or that conversation or the guy at CBS news or like any of it The topic of all of them is we're losing How do we get back to winning? So like at least they're acknowledging that like shit This just isn't working anymore man And I do think there's something beautiful to it man I think there's something beautiful where like even just you you just make in the point that you just made where you're like like this Is something in my head this thing my heart. I just saw a child being tortured to death. I'm not okay with this I want to say tortured to death. I just mean like I've been crumbling on them as their bones crush and they cry out and no one comes to save them Is pretty bad and then you know, Ben Shapiro could come up with all those fancy arguments in the world But the audience is looking at that and going I'm not with you on that But just how are you still creating and I don't understand how somebody could still be creating an argument I think that's where the weird disparity comes in like I can't even You know, I mean yes, I make a lot of poor choices in my life and I've done a lot of things that are not great But but yeah, I don't understand how you could just think that that's okay, you know You got zero supported genocides on your track record though, so that's good. Yeah That's true. That's a good point Thanks so much day for stopping by dude dude absolutely anytime man. I appreciate it man So much great to start the year off with you Yeah, I'm hopeful the 2026. I'll we'll bring in good things um, I will see this A lot of my life I've thought man Our our my time on earth has been a little it's been exciting and fun But it's been a little boring as a society like as a time period in America It's been like just kind of a comfortable time And man it's just in a couple years. That's changed a lot. It's gotten it's gotten real interesting But yeah, I'm excited. I like being alive during these times I'm excited to see where everything goes and I kind of like I love like the relationship We get to have like with our audience like we kind of all go through this together and we're kind of all like yeah Did you see that that was crazy? Oh, it's crazy. I enjoy it Yeah, I mean whenever Charlie Kirk out shot I was texting people and like other podcasts and stuff like stay alive Do you know or like if I have a tough question I can call you and ask you Fathering this father out there. I'm Jersey. You're never bothering me dude. I love talking to you Um, but yeah, man. Thanks so much. I'm curious to see what canis has for dinner for us. Ooh I can't wait. Yeah All right, thanks so much Dave. You're the man dude You