Full Show - Washington’s A Super Bowl Sleeper
164 min
•Feb 12, 20262 months agoSummary
The Sports Junkies celebrate 30 years on air while discussing Washington Commanders' rebranding efforts with the spear logo, NBA All-Star Game format changes, and predictions for the 2026 NFL season. The show features an interview with Mark Turgeon, former Maryland basketball coach, who is taking over at UMKC, and covers various sports topics including the Wizards' tanking strategy and deer population control in Northern Virginia.
Insights
- Rebranding efforts can maintain fan nostalgia while avoiding controversial imagery by incorporating historical warrior symbolism across multiple cultures
- College basketball coaching at mid-major levels offers appealing alternatives to Power Five positions due to reduced NIL complexity and development focus
- NBA All-Star Game viewership decline stems from lack of competitive intensity; format changes alone may not solve fundamental engagement issues
- Intermittent fasting and walking-based fitness regimens show measurable results for weight loss without extreme dietary restrictions
- Infrastructure maintenance scheduling conflicts with peak usage periods can create significant public health and environmental consequences
Trends
Sports franchises leveraging historical imagery and cultural symbolism to rebrand while maintaining fan connection to legacyMid-major college basketball programs becoming attractive destinations for experienced coaches seeking alternative to Power Five pressureNBA experimenting with international team formats to increase competitive balance and viewer interest in All-Star eventsAging municipal infrastructure (70+ year old sewer systems) creating environmental crises requiring significant government investmentCelebrity and athlete social media missteps amplifying personal controversies through viral moments and public platform misusePrediction markets and polymarkets creating new vectors for insider trading and information asymmetry in sports bettingIntermittent fasting and low-impact cardio gaining mainstream adoption among middle-aged professionals for sustainable weight managementCollege football portal and NIL dynamics fundamentally reshaping roster construction and player development timelinesSuburban wildlife management (deer culling) becoming necessary urban planning function with community safety implicationsStreaming and fragmented media consumption reducing appointment television viewership for traditional sports events
Topics
Washington Commanders Rebranding StrategyNBA All-Star Game Format and Viewership CrisisCollege Basketball Coaching Career PathsNIL and Transfer Portal Impact on RostersNFL 2026 Season PredictionsIntermittent Fasting and Fitness TrendsSuburban Deer Population ManagementPotomac River Sewage ContaminationWizards Tank-to-Contender StrategyJames Van Der Beek Cancer AwarenessKurt Cobain Death Investigation ReopeningWill Smith Career Comeback ChallengesSports Betting Prediction MarketsJaden Daniels Injury Durability ConcernsTerry McLaurin Contract Situation
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Main Street Bank
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Monumental Sports Network
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Live Nation
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AV Inc.
Defense contractor sponsor providing autonomous aircraft and satellite communication systems
Surfside Vodka
Spirits sponsor offering merchandise discount with code JUNKS at store.statesidevodka.com
Golden State Warriors
NBA team discussed regarding Jonathan Kuminga trade and roster management decisions
Atlanta Hawks
NBA team that acquired Jonathan Kuminga from Warriors at trade deadline
University of Maryland Athletics
Former employer of Mark Turgeon; discussed regarding basketball program challenges
University of Missouri-Kansas City
Mark Turgeon's new employer as head basketball coach starting next season
Kansas City Chiefs
Referenced regarding Kansas City sports culture and fan base enthusiasm
San Francisco 49ers
NFL team discussed regarding Deebo Samuel contract situation and free agency
Washington Commanders
Primary NFL team discussed; focus on rebranding, roster, and 2026 season outlook
New England Patriots
NFL team discussed as Super Bowl LIX winner with unexpected turnaround season
Los Angeles Lakers
NBA team discussed regarding LeBron James potential free agency destinations
DC Water
Utility company managing Potomac River sewage crisis and infrastructure failures
People
Mark Turgeon
Former Maryland basketball coach taking over as UMKC head coach; interviewed about coaching return
Josh Harris
Washington Commanders owner discussing rebranding strategy and spear logo incorporation
Jaden Daniels
Washington Commanders QB; subject of 2026 season predictions and durability concerns
Deebo Samuel
49ers WR discussed regarding contract status and potential free agency departure
Terry McLaurin
Commanders WR whose contract situation and role in new offense discussed
LeBron James
NBA star discussed as potential free agent destination for Commanders in 2026
Brian Windhorst
ESPN analyst discussing LeBron James free agency options on Rich Eisen show
Jonathan Kuminga
Warriors/Hawks player; subject of ESPN report on family room food incident
Steve Kerr
Golden State Warriors head coach who met with Kuminga regarding playing time tensions
James Van Der Beek
Actor from Dawson's Creek and Varsity Blues who died from colon cancer at age 48
Brad Arnold
Three Days Down frontman who died from cancer earlier in the week
Kurt Cobain
Nirvana frontman whose 1994 death is being re-examined as potential homicide
Will Smith
Actor facing sexual harassment lawsuit from former tour violinist amid comeback attempts
Brian King Joseph
Former tour violinist filing $3M sexual harassment lawsuit against Will Smith
Mike Tannenbaum
ESPN analyst predicting Commanders Super Bowl appearance with Jaden Daniels MVP season
David Blau
Commanders offensive coordinator discussing Terry McLaurin target allocation strategy
Dan Quinn
Commanders head coach whose job security tied to 2026 season performance
Nick Wright
Fox Sports analyst proposing controversial All-Star Game format based on player ethnicity
Bill Simmons
Sports media entrepreneur discussing NBA All-Star Game viewership crisis with Nick Wright
Eddie Vedder
Pearl Jam frontman discussed for 1992 viral stage climbing incident during concert
Quotes
"We're embracing the commander's name, and it turns out that, you know, we did the 250th anniversary of the Navy, and so we relaunched our branding campaign at that game, and it's commander is a leader of warriors, and we start with the Romans and then we go to the Native American tribes and then we go to special forces and they all have these swords, which is like this tip of the spear, right?"
Josh Harris•Mid-show segment on Commanders rebranding
"I'm not scared of the NIL. I think it's something that I'm in a place that it's a great city. It's got a lot of money. I've got a lot of Jayhawk fans out here that I think are going to jump on board with me."
Mark Turgeon•8:00 AM interview segment
"Getting that cancer was the best thing that ever happened to him. I believe him. I would have to vehemently oppose that viewpoint."
EB•Entertainment page segment
"If the glove don't fit, you must acquit."
Johnny Cochran (referenced)•OJ Simpson case discussion
"I'm going to be here with Chris Farley. It's March. I'm going to be here with Chris Farley. It's March 8th or 9th. It's when you have less than a month to go."
Cakes•Fitness/wedding preparation discussion
Full Transcript
Happy Open Line Thursday, everybody. This Thursday, February 12th. We are The Junks coming to you live on 106.7 The Fan, Team 980, 910 The Fan. If you're listening in Richmond, thank you for that. You can also watch us on the Monumental Sports Network. We're celebrating 30 years of the junkies, the ultimate upset. Nobody would have guessed that 30 years ago. We'd be sitting here today, but we've defied the odds. And it's presented by our friends at Main Street Bank. Cheer Local, Bank Local, Main Street Bank is a business-focused community bank proudly serving the DMV since 2004. Visit mstreetbank.com to learn how to put their team in your office. Main Street Bank, member FDIC, equal housing opportunity lender. I'm Cakes. That's Jason Bishop. What's up? Hello. What's up? Hello. John Paul Flame is here. What's up, Cakes? He's rocking Sup Dogs here for, I believe, the second time this week. Brett Alvaria loves you for that. and Eric Bickle. Yeah, you know what's funny about the 30th anniversary is Jeff came in yesterday. Yes. Jeff who works with Jeff Walker. I always want to call him Jeff Parker for some reason. Oh really? Jeff Walker. Yes, I finally got into my brain. He's lost a lot of weight by the way. He's dropped a lot of weight. He looks great. And Jeff's a funny guy. He's a really nice guy. I like him a lot. He and I always have a nice interaction every day. He came in here and he said it's y'all's 30th year? yeah i heard it and listen i don't expect everybody to know that i mean who cares but we've been working here a long time we work together it just it just told me a lot and uh and he said i don't listen to the radio that's the first thing he said i said you're just finding that out we've been playing these things for a month and a half now um you know i don't expect you to be some sort of junkies a history person right but i mean it's kind of like the whole show is based around it. We're wearing promos on the station. The whole year is going to be around it. It's kind of a big deal for us. A little thing. It looks like most people know. He works at our station to show after. I was just... I know. It was a great moment for me. He's late to the party. It's all good. No, it doesn't mean it's that bad. It just shocked me. And then I guess he answered it himself. He said, yes, I'm sorry about it. He said, I don't listen to the radio. I think that's what I found the most shocking. Like when he, if he does like a, he does DJ gigs as well. Like, so if he's doing a DJ gig until, I don't know, it's say two in the morning, he'll get in his car and drive to his house. It's a whole silence. Yeah. Which we can do total silence. Are you listening to Spotify or Apple music? No, no, no. I understand that he does that. I'm saying, but a lot of people live that way. Got it. Hold on. A lot of people live the way of getting into a vehicle and not have, having no, he's not listening to radio. No, the only reason I did it is he works in radio, though. Yeah, yeah. That's what's shocking. He works in radio. And I get it, too. I listen in my car and listen to podcasts. I'm not always listening to the radio. Of course. Right. It just floored me. Yeah. I didn't hear him say that. I couldn't fathom getting into a vehicle, and even driving for five or ten minutes, like a quick errand, and not having some sort of audio entertainment. Yeah. That just blew my mind. Yeah, but if you're DJing and you're playing loud music, you might want to decompress. Four straight hours. We've never done that. You need to get some zen to get centered again. You understand it. I definitely see it. If there have been times I've had a lot on my mind, maybe it's something with my kids going on or what could be anything. It could be just distraught about my golf swing. if I have a lot on my mind I'll often find myself 20 minutes into my ride and I didn't turn anything on now it doesn't happen a lot let's say that happens twice a year but like there have been times where that's happened where you're driving in silence because you're so consumed I don't know maybe something's going on with your mom or something with your family or you know just something's going on I mean I guess it could happen it's happened to me but he does it on a daily and I think it's like you said because boom. He's got his beats just resonating in his head. Beat dropping all night. He's reverberating, bouncing around in his brain. He's going to get in your car and just, like, chill. And I guess Jeff is now into, like, making beats, and he's got a bunch of buddies that are rappers, and he's, like, holding them in the music scene even more than ever, so that's where he's focusing. He's kind of a renaissance man. He's also a hunter and a fisherman. I mean, he's a hunter. Is he really? Yeah. Yeah. What's he hunt? Like, deer? Deer? Yeah. Oh, damn. Remember I told you I wanted to mention it. Remember yesterday I said there's something going on in my neighborhood and remind me. I don't remember that, but okay. We had the last couple days we've been driving around, and I live off of Beach Drive, and we have the park police. Yeah. And it's, you know, I see park police occasionally, but there have been like five of them stationed in different areas on the way back to my house. and the sirens are on and the guys are just sitting in there and they're just chilling. I was like, what's going on? Is that like a criminal? What the hell is going on? Tracking somebody in the park? Is this like a crime scene? Right. And my wife said, no. This is news to me. I've lived here in this neighborhood 20 years. Yeah. This is when they kill deer. Yeah, same in my neighborhood. They've got signs at the park that say you can't be in the park after sundown. Right. Because there are sniper teams that go in to control the deer population. And I've got to tell you, Cakes lives in a very similar neighborhood. There are homes everywhere. It suddenly was kind of terrifying to me that they're just indiscriminately somewhat. Well, I mean, these are experts. Okay, they're experts. It's also like, I mean, the park that I live in, there are homes basically right adjacent to it. There are homes everywhere. But it's, I don't know, it's an eight or ten acre park. and they've... I'm sure they're great at it. How often do you have deer in your backyard or front yard? In my front yard, sometimes, never in my backyard. Yeah, I have on occasion. I mean, several times a year. Yeah. I mean, I live in a neighborhood called Washingtonian Woods. Right. My parents have them daily. Yeah. Daily deer come feed in their front or backyard. Yeah. Do your parents go out and, like, try to feed them any food? No. Sometimes they'll send me pictures. I always feel like I should... This is dumb, but sometimes I feel like if I'm on a walk, like there are deer in the park, I should bring them an apple or something to eat, and I just don't. They're a nature lover. Do they like apples? That I don't know. That's a great question. I think they do. I assume they would. Because I worked with a guy who he would go out and he would feed him apples, and he was feeding them for the kill. So he was trying to give them a pattern. And he was trying to beef them up, and then when they got to a certain size, That was not my intent. Shoot them. I think they like apples. I think they're more along horses. Horses like apples and carrots. A deer? I don't know. No, I can tell you that at least my buddy would feed them apples. Okay. Specifically. It may not be at the top of their food chain, but they like the most. But it's free food. He would carry around one of those crates from 7-Eleven full of apples, and he would beef up the deer, and then he would shoot them. If I were a deer living in the park, and some rando just came up with an apple, I'd probably go up and get it. Because I'm a dumb deer and I don't have a big, fully developed brain like a human, like most humans. And I'd probably go out and try to get the food. So you don't feel, it's just a little. So what do they eat? Just grass? I think mostly grass. I don't know. It's a terrible diet. Probably grass, leaves. You see some of those videos on YouTube where deer come up to people's houses, you know, in the middle of nowhere. And people are just feeding them stuff. Sure. Will deer actually come up to people and eat out of their hands? In some spots, maybe. If they've been around enough people, I think they will. Probably if you're slow enough and you have the patience to let it come to you. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. It just might be AI. I don't know what's real. It doesn't freak you out, though, that they're just shooting these deer in the neighborhood. No, because where I live is kind of far away from there. But I still don't think there are going to be random shots that ricochet into somebody's family room. Are you nervous that there's just gunshots going off? A little bit. Those dudes are going to hit their target. That's what I'm talking about. Okay. Those guys have high-powered scopes, and they get the target line-up. I'm not sure they're the best that it is. Like, they can see your BMW and your driveway through their scope. Yeah. That kind of frightens you a little bit. It just frightens me. I live in a regular neighborhood. It's a neighborhood, and they're in the... Okay. And you have, like, an army of snipers next door. Yeah, they're just running around killing the deer. And I'm sure they're the best. I'm sure nothing ever happens. They're doing it so the deer don't jump out and jump through your windshield. when it's 4.45 in the morning. I appreciate it. Yeah, sure. Although I have to also say, you know me, I don't really have an affinity for animals. It's been documented. I don't really, I mean, let them be, that's fine. I do think deer are kind of pretty. Sure. They're trackable. I have to say I have a weakness, I have a soft spot for deer. They're like majestic. There's, maybe. They're so athletic too. There's something about a deer that's just kind of pretty. and when I see them, and I see them all the time, I go... I feel kind of bad when I see a sickly one. Yeah, sometimes they have like patchy patches on their skin and flies. They're mangy. Yeah, but for the most part, they're nice to look at. They're peaceful. They're not eating silly flat iron steak. You know what I mean? They don't know what steak tastes like. It's a rough go. My buddy has the same feeling about fox. He thinks foxes are majestic, wholesome creatures. Beautiful. Beautiful. Yeah, yeah. I have a little soft spot for foxes. This is going to sound bizarre because of the marish red foxes. I have a little soft spot. I can understand that. But not like deer. There's something. I think deer are more peaceful than a fox. The word pretty. A fox will try and prey on a small dog. They'll try and kill dogs. Sure. Deer is, you know. I mean, a fox probably weighs 20-ish pounds. If they see a 10-pound dog... They'll try and kill it. Yeah, they're going to try to take it down. They're not meat eaters. There's a fox, remember, last year that was loving my mat. That would fall off in the backyard. It would scratch itself and lay on it. Did he have the yips, the fox? There was a fox that was sickly at Hidden Creek. and one of the members who loves foxes, loves fox, went to a vet and got medicine, like mange medicine, and like put it in food and like put it near the fox den so that the fox would heal up. That's really into foxes. Yeah. It looked better after a week. It's amazing, right? Yeah, it's silly. I don't have anything really against foxes. If I had a dog and it was preying on my dog, than I certainly would. It definitely used to be cool to call hot teenagers. When we were teenagers, Foxy? Yeah, like, she's a fox, or she's Foxy. Like, when we were in middle school, or early high school, that was definitely the lingo back in the day. Hey, Mike Marr, you might want to put the paddles to that. When you're out in Arlington, Fox was like an older woman that's hot. That's like a cougar. I thought a cougar was just someone that likes younger men. That's... Well, yeah, but it's an older, cougar is an older woman. Yeah. Now, if I go to Jackson's, I would say like, you know, either cougar or fox. Right. I wouldn't think younger. Okay. No, cougars are, I'm going to guess 40s and 50s. Sounds about right. Some girl just crashed on the giant slalom. Oof. That's a brutal sport, by the way. Brutal. They're all brutal. Did you see, by the way, there was a doctor that put an x-ray, And it almost had me, because it's like, this is what happened to Lindsey Vonn. And it wasn't her exact x-ray, but it was allegedly an x-ray of someone's legs that suffered the same kind of fracture she suffered. And they were broken in a billion pieces. Well, she just had her third surgery. Yes. Three surgeries in, what, four days, five days? She probably had more coming. Yeah. It would be like Tiger Woods. How many surgeries a tiger had? About 20? Don Makowski tweeted yesterday. The magic man? The magic man. Former Cav. He was going through, I think it was his 23rd surgery. On his leg? Or overall. I don't know what this particular one was, but he was kind of like asking for prayers. Knock on wood, I'm holding at one. That's back to me. I didn't even know you could count that. If you count that, I've got about eight or nine. It's a minor surgical procedure, but you can count it. I might be in double digits to count little ones like that. Like if you count eye surgeries, I wouldn't count it. I don't think I would count an eye surgery. Like the laser? Yeah, the LASIK. Even though you did see it on the burning plane. They're cutting on your Bozak? Sorry, that's a surgery. In my opinion. In my book? That is a surgery, my friends. You might add it up, and I've got about seven. That's a lot. Don't want to keep adding to it. Hey, real quick. Let's go to Will. It is an open line Thursday. People call us throughout the show just so they know. Let's go to Will in Stafford wants to chime in on the deer situation. Will, what's up, buddy? Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my call. Good morning. Good morning. Just a great conversation, man. A couple things. You know, in Arlington here in Fairfax, you know, all over Northern Virginia, they have marksman teams that will thin the population as well. You know, they're good at what they do. They're not like a bunch of cowboy tods, you know, sitting in the woods, spraying buckshot everywhere. Right. I mean, I assume that's the case, but it's still a little disconcerting. I don't know, just knowing these guys are, like, shooting in your backyard. Yeah, I understand. Yeah, then in the population, you know, it's a good thing, you know, part of conservation, safety. Also, deer get what's called chronic wasting disease. They basically get this zombie status, you know, walking around. So, you know, they put anything with chronic wasting, they'll put them down. Also, for Jason, if you go out past Leesburg, if you go down to Skyline Drive, Leroy Caverns, deer out there are very domesticated. They'll walk right up and eat an apple out of your hand. Really? It's not a good thing to do, but they do it a lot. Do they get feisty? Are they aggressive, or will they come up gently and take it out of your hand? Male deer, like in a rut season, of course, you don't want to get around them like that, but, you know, doe, stuff like that, they'll walk up and see videos of them all the time. I might do that. Where is apples on their sort of food chain? Is that something they really like? I'm not sure on that. I think that's more of a human interaction. Deer will eat berries in the wild. They'll eat corn, big into cornfields and stuff. But I grew up hunting with my dad. I got out of it once I discovered girls at 17 and everything. I get it. I get it. Way more fun. Don't hunt anymore. It's a different kind of hunting. It's a good subject. Thanks, guys. All right, thanks for the call, man. Appreciate it. You can call us on an open line Thursday, 800-636-1067. You can do that throughout the show. Here is your guest lineup for today, Mark Turgeon, former Terps head coach, who is taking over as the head coach for University of Missouri-Kansas City next season. He'll be on the show coming up at 845. When we come back, we'll get into the junk sports page. The Terps had a nice win at home. The Wiz, Shocker, lost their last game before the All-Star break. We'll get into that and more next. Welcome back to an Open Line Thursday brought to you by Window Nation. Searching for new windows and doors. Search windownation.com. Their windows are measured to fit the first time and installed by experts to last. Window Nation for your home because it's where you live, Ricky. 800-636-1067 is the number. Richard. If you want to call us throughout the show. Hey, Richie. All right, let's bang on a couple of these calls. Let's go to Sean in Stafford. Sean, what's up, buddy? Hey, I used to work for the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. Several years ago, we did a study on, we were teaming up with insurance companies, did a study on deer strikes, and we found that in Fairfax County alone that year, there were 5,500 deer strikes by cars. That's crazy. A lot. Yeah. Just in Fairfax County. I'm surprised. I'll be honest with you. I'm surprised I haven't hit more deer. I've hit one deer in my life, and it was probably 20-some years ago. Yeah. But out where I live, I mean, there's some dark areas. Sure. There's deer everywhere out in Loudoun County. And I get up at four. Yeah. Yeah. I'm surprised. I had a friend that hit two deer on his motorcycle in his driveway. Wow. Yeah, you got to be careful for sure. No, I understand it. I understand sort of the idea behind it. Yeah, well, the cars are a top-tier predator for deer around here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, thank you, Sean. I appreciate it, buddy. I mean, I see them all the time. Yeah, that's a big number. I hit a deer 20 years ago, like, getting on Route 50 when I drove the Dodge Durango. Mm-hmm. I think pummeled me. It ran up against the side of me. It was like racing. That's my one deer encounter. It hit my rear, like, right panel near the rear right tire. Right. And it just bounced off and ran away. Right. Let's go to Dwayne in Bowie. Dwayne, what's up, buddy? It's Open Line Thursday. You're a chance to see the show. What's up, pal? Good morning, Evie. How are you doing? Great. How are you? I'm well, thanks. So yesterday I was in the whole world just trying to discuss the tanking. Yeah. And I thought about it, and here's the only way on this planet to stop tanking. It has to be relegation. Now, hear me out. You're going to say, okay, well, you're going to have guys making $20 million. Do they want to play in G League? No, they don't want to play in G League, and that is the reason why they wouldn't want to go to G League. Now, you're going to have guys at the top in NBA playing hard not to get relegated. You're going to have guys in G League playing hard to get to NBA. So, now, here's the thing. In Premier League, it's the same thing, and, JT, you know this. You watch soccer. So, there is no tanking in Premier League. If you're tanking, you're going to be the worst team, and nobody's going to want to watch you. You're going to want to go tough. Right, but here's a question. Do they have a draft in the Premier League? Well, they have buy-ins. They have something better than draft, to be honest with you. See, I think that's the answer, and we were discussing this, and I think Drafty read an article about somebody, and somebody pointed out the answer might be eliminate the draft. If you eliminate the draft and just make everything free agency and you have a salary cap, like a real salary cap, and then teams have to accommodate for players, however they... So if you have big salaries, you might have to release them to sign new... You know what I mean? So college players would essentially be like free agents when they... Yes, that eliminates the tanking. And now you could say, well, that gives the haves more. But if you have a salary cap, that should, in theory, make it equal. Right? so everyone has an equal shot at signing him. I think on the face of it, that might work. That might work, but then ask yourself this question. Why is there no tanking in hockey the way it is in the NBA? And, Kate, you might know this, but I don't think there's as much tanking in hockey. Yes, a team might go lose 15 straight, but they're not really tanking. I think the answer is it's typically they don't have a guy that can have an immediate turnaround impact in the NHL the way they can in the NBA. I mean, a lot of those, even some of the top draft picks, they don't come to play for their NHL team for a couple years. Now, some of them do. Well, that's true, but I still think relegation might be fun as well. It's also the math, right? A hockey player is only going to play at most one-third of the game. An NBA player is one of five on the court and generally will play 40 out of 48 minutes. So they're just going to have a bigger impact. Same thing, like NFL, you're on the field half the time. now a quarterback has a major impact. But an NBA player, if you get the right one, can dramatically change the trajectory of your franchise because you're one of five. Baseball, much bigger team. Football, much bigger team. The smallest team out there. And less games for football, too. If you suck, you realize you suck with eight games to go in the regular season. At least you're kind of trying for the first quarter of the season, first half of the season. I agree. But I think it is something to think about, though. I don't think they're ever going to abolish the draft. I know it's hard to wrap your brain around it, but it might work. I never thought college players would be getting $10 million and then going from team to team. I definitely didn't think that was ever going to happen either. Right. You've got to think outside the box there, Rick. Let's go to Ben. Silver Spring. It's Open Line Thursday. Your chance to steal the show. Ben, what's up, buddy? I want to bring up Stefan Diggs spinning one last time. Hopefully it's the last. But the whole thing comes down to is I had the impression when he spun the ball, the look on his face was, this is the stupidest thing that I have ever done. And I'm just kind of wondering if you think the same thing. You think he regretted it as soon as he did it? As soon as he did it. If you could see the look on his face, it was either of he was just pissed off because they were getting killed. But it looked like as he spun it, he's going, looks at the ball and goes, this was the stupidest thing. because it looked like he went to go down the picket up. Maybe he realized that he shouldn't have been doing that when they were getting crushed. Yeah, that's what I mean. They're getting crushed. Or was it simply just, and I didn't even pay attention to it, didn't even, I don't even remember the exact moment when it happened. It was very late in the game. Was it just a frustration thing? Like, he spun it, but it was just more than just frustration. It might also just be happened. Maybe he's just used to all this. I think that's a muscle memory. It's a muscle memory. When he makes a play, he spins the ball. I don't know. But, you know, there's a little too much celebration for stupid things all the time. That's for sure. Agreed. I think we can all agree to that. Yeah. And one other thing real quick, the guy about the deer. Yes. Ever since that inter-county connector went up, it really screwed up, in Montgomery County anyway, the north-south migration of deer and fox. Is that right? We have more deer in our – I live up in Burtonsville. Okay. Which isn't really up anymore. But we have more fox and deer in the morning. And at night, they make the craziest sounds. So, like I said, that stuff's all over the place. When they kill the deer, and somebody tells me, by the way, that they do it with bow and arrow. They're not even doing it with a gun. Maybe that makes you feel a little safer, although the bow and arrow take you out, too. Yeah, but that would be the worst luck ever. Worst luck ever. But when they take one down, what do they do? They just let it lay there? No, I think they probably throw it in a truck and take it out of the park. They do. I don't know what they do with it after that. I've never seen that, so I believe you. I'm just assuming. I don't know that. We've had this conversation before. When deer die, they just fall down and die. Then the vultures come in and eat them. Yeah, so maybe that's what happens here. Maybe the vultures eat them here. That could be. Whole circle of life thing. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe a bear. Maybe a bear comes along. I hope we don't have that many bears in my neighborhood. I mean, a Rock Creek Park. They've been seen in my neighborhood. No, I know there's been one in a blue moon. Yeah, I mean, it's not all over the place. There was definitely a bear in the old town like two, I want to say like two, two and a half years ago. Yeah. Bear. Yeah, I know. It's crazy. Just strolling around. They can go all the way from the mountains, I don't know, miles west and just find themselves in a neighborhood. How about this? So my wife was waiting for my daughter. Because, again, you know, she's up in the Chantilly area for volleyballs a bunch. Yep. You know, three times a week. And they don't get out until 10. and so she's sleeping in her car I know last night I got two nights ago I got home at 11 she's sleeping in the car waiting and then she's hearing something and then they sound like gunshots and then she looks up the volleyball spot's right next to a gun range oh okay but you know I think gun ranges are great I didn't know that they were that close to like normal stuff like warehouse yeah let's go to toothpick Oh, what's up, buddy? We're taking some calls early. Hey, what's up, man? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm always up around this time. I just sometimes can't get a chance to call. All right. Listen, I got this NBA thing figured out, man. All right. Just a couple of steps. All right. All right. First, you got to knock 10 games off the schedule. What happened? Okay, well, I'm going to end it right there. They're not going to knock 10 games off the schedule. They're not going to do it because of the money involved. Fish, I understand. I know you were going to say that. I knew you were going to say there's money involved, but everyone wants to see the stars, right? And the thing about it is right now they're playing every team in the NBA. So just like football, sometimes you won't play a different division. So that's what makes it special, and that's what makes you have to sometimes get out of your comfort zone, your area, and go to different areas. They don't care about special. That's not the main point. They just want money. That's not the main point. That's not the main point, right? All right. You got to stop letting these guys sell their draft picks seven and eight years down the road. You got to limit it to like three years. And the protected picks, you got to get rid of those because that's really what incentivizes teams to take, just like the Wizards this year. We all know, hey, if they finish outside of whatever, then their pick goes to somebody else. And it's like they have to finish in the bottom three or bottom four, whatever, to ensure that they get their first-round pick this year. So you got to let these other teams, where you finish at is the draft that you get, the pick that you get. So if you're the worst, then you pick first. You can't be number seven and get the first pick in the draft. That's what I said yesterday. Well, I mean, that's irritating. It's going to enrage me when I see a team that has a 2% or 3% chance to get a top pick land a top three pick. Because I know it's going to happen. I know these weird teams. Let me pull up who has the lowest chances of getting in there this year, pulling up Tankathon. Like a team like if Chicago, who has a 3% chance of getting the number one overall pick, leaps into the top three, I'm going to be pissed. They shouldn't be eligible to get a pick like that. Same with Portland. Same with Charlotte. If I see one of those logos pop up during the lottery, I agree. You're going to be very upset. I'm going to be neat. But we understand why they're doing it. The idea is to try to reduce the tanking. But that's why they're doing it. But it's still going to drive me crazy. And you said you will never watch another basketball game if the Dallas Mavericks win the lottery. Yes. I'll stand by that. I'll stand by that. But we'll let you off the hook if you pay us each $100. No, I just, you know what? Well, hold on. I said it was swearing off basketball. I'm not going to get into these dumb one-sided basketball. I know, but he said you're never going to watch basketball the rest of your life. And assuming you've got 20 years in you, you know, you're really going to go 20 years? I'll give you a buyout. If the Wiz got... Screw that. Just pay me $100 and you get a buyout. No, I get one too. If the Wiz got good all of a sudden, and that's probably never going to happen, but they went to the Eastern Conference Finals, then he's not going to watch. Well, you have to pay us $100. I would definitely want to watch. He's scoffing. I'm not going to agree to that. Why not? I'm not agreeing to that. So your words are empty. Your words are empty. No, not really. They're empty. I just want to have an out. You always want to have outs in life. And poker. You want to have like an escape hatch. Well, your escape hatch is just saying I lied. Man, lies is such an ugly word. It wouldn't be a lie. It would just be not living up to his promise. Yeah. Don't live up to your words. You're not a man of integrity. Yeah. I'm just trying to get a hundred bucks out of it. It's the first time I haven't lived up to a promise in my life. Hey, the wins did their part last night. Yeah, they did. Did their part last night. Yeah, they did what they're supposed to do. Alex R didn't play. Yeah. Mysterious injury again. They've been hyping up Will Riley the last three days, and he really struggled. I don't get any glee in it. But Trey played. I think Trey started. I just don't think they're going to catch Sacktown, who've lost 14 in a row. Well, that was the Tankapalooza game. It was, didn't they play Utah? They played the Jazz. Utah's front court is the biggest front court in the history of the NBA, it seems. But I don't think the Jazz can tank. Well, I mean, they can't tank. They just don't. They wouldn't play their best players. But last night, I mean... No, they played Markkinen and Jackson. Look at their starting point. And Nurkic. Yeah. They're only playing them in the mid-20 minutes range. I know, but Markkinen's starting at small forward. Yeah, they're huge. Dallas is doing their best to try to get in the mix. They've lost eight straight. And Cooper's going to be out because he's got a strained foot. All of the All-Star Rakes this weekend. How many of you think going up that now? They have a seven and a half chance of landing the number one pick. I'm not making that proclamation official. You can take that off the record, Valdez. Before you know it, they're going to have a 10% chance of landing the top pick. And they're probably going to get it. It's rigged. I already told you. Don't worry, Wiz fans. I thought it was rigged for the Wizards. I thought that's what you said a week ago. Yeah, it still is. Oh, you're saying calm down. Yeah, calm down. The wings good for the Wizards. The handshake, wink, wink deal is still in effect. I wish I could believe you. Let's see. I'm having a hard time. So they've got the second worst record right now. Yes. They're at 14-39. New Orleans is at 15-41. Indiana at 15-40. Hey, I'm starting to buy in that LeBron might come here. Yeah, why would you buy into that? Because Wendy was on Rich Eisen's show. Who was? Windhorse. Yeah. And he said there's some options for LeBron's last year. Let me find the audio. Did he mention Washington? He mentioned by name, obviously staying with the Lakers, going back to Cleveland. Golden State, he mentioned by name. All right, find the audio. We'll play that when we come back, and then we'll also get into the Junk Sports page, talk about the Terps and more. We'll do that next here on the Vans. Let's get into the Junk Sports page. That's brought to you by our friends at Open Road. Yeah, where's my read here? Where's my read? What was Valdez going to play? He was going to play some audio for us. Let me just get the sponsor in from our good friends at Open Road Distillery. We love sponsors. In Reston, Virginia. If you haven't been there yet, especially if you live in Northern Virginia, then you're a loser. Right. You're pretty much a loser. I like this tax you're taking. I am co-signing. I like this approach. I mean, it's just a great spot. It's naming people into going. Yeah, it's a great spot. It's got good vibes. Head on over there. Got a great meal. We've got tons of TVs. Huge bar. We've got the speakeasy there if you want to just get a great meal at the heirloom. But, of course, when you walk in, check out the distillery. And their dark liquors are available in ABC stores in Northern Virginia. You're such a loser. Can we also just get Eddie to bring some more pies by? Yeah, we should. Can we do that? Best pies in the world. He's not a sponsor, so we can't hype up his company, but we destroyed the pecan pies. I mean, just have Eddie bring the pies. There literally wasn't one crumb left from the crust. Like, we vaporized that pie. I told you the day I brought home the blueberry, I ate half of it myself the first day. It was gone the second day. And, of course, I had a big dollop of spray whipped cream on top of the con pie. Oh, that would... I mean, that's because you have to have that. I wouldn't have had a dollop, though. I would have had a lot. I had a dollop. It was probably two dollops. By the way, my buddy... Maybe bring a bunch of pies. Yeah, bring some. My buddy Greg, we were talking about the deer and bear. Yeah. He sent me a video. There's a bear on his front porch. Now, this wasn't recent. Where does he live? He lives up in the woods, up in the mountains. This is a bear. What state? Virginia. Okay. Just look at it. Just chilling on the front porch. What do you do in that instance? Looks like his dog just hanging out there. Right. But it's a bear. You play like one of those. You know how you have those. Like an air siren? I think they. Air siren or something? I don't know. What do you do? He's bear spray. He's eating the cat food. Bears will eat anything. They'll eat anything. They'll eat anything they can get their hands on. Can you imagine walking your front door and seeing a big-ass bear on your front porch? I think I've told this on the air before when I took a trip with my kids out west when they were playing field hockey when they were much younger and we were doing a tour of a national park. They said the bears in that national park are so smart that if you're even driving through and you have your windows cracked and they smell food in your car, they will get on top of your car and start shaking your car until the frame of your car bends and they can pry the door open and get in and get the food. That's how far bears will go to get food. They don't F around. They do not mess around. That's why they tell you when you're camping near where bears live, you better not have any food that they can smell. You better have it in an airtight container like the airtight container JP wanted to take home that Eddie brought his pies in yesterday from work. I know. It's a nice storage bin. It's been here for a while. JP walks by and goes, is anybody going to take this bin? Is anybody going to use this bin? And we're like, do whatever you want. And we're like, I think that's the Eddie's bin. They brought the pie in. But it shows you the anal guy who's very into being organized got very aroused seeing an empty storage bin. Yeah, it gave him blood flow. Seeing that empty plastic container. It moved him. It did move good. To me, it just looked like junk. It just looked like a random Tupperware container. And believe me, my house could use some organization. Because it was good. I just organized the area and put the bin underneath the table. Very proud of you. Right. It's kind of your thing. All right, so Matt wanted to play some audio from Brian Windhorst. Yeah, he's on with Rich Eisen. Right, and this is regarding LeBron's potential destinations. Yeah, yeah, potential destinations. Because I believe this is his final year in terms of contract in L.A. Yeah. I mean, he's playing at a decent level when he plays, so we think he's going to come back. There's a lot of friction between him, his camp, the ownership in LA. I don't know, but it's giving me visions of sugar plums in my head. And especially when Windhorst says that. All right. Sugar plums. The pathway, too, is to stay with the Lakers for less money. How much less? A lot of variables we don't know yet. Three, would he go someplace else? If he becomes a free agent, would he go someplace else? And would he go someplace to make the most money? Or would he go someplace where he could take less money, but that he would feel comfortable or feel like he could win? It would probably, there's a good chance it would be his last year. He certainly has to go into it with a strong possibility it would be his last year. So he has to go to a place where he could be comfortable playing a year. And I think there's a couple of places where that might make sense. Cleveland is one of them. Heat? You want to go down the... I'm not sure I put this heat on the list. Okay, where else? Where else? You know, Golden State, depending on how things go, would be one of them, depending on where their team is. Would Kerr have to be there? Maybe. But that's a good question. Sure. Okay. And there's a place or two that I won't say right now that I'm keeping my eye on. Is that the fingers thing? We're doing the fingers thing? Yeah, I just, you know, frankly, with All-Star Weekend and stuff, I don't need this in my life. Let's just say, I don't need the fingers for life. No, no, no. I got it. I got you. Let's put it this way. I respect him. I have a team or two that I think he could consider going to. Okay. And I have researched the concept. Okay. And I will continue to keep my eye on the concept. Keep digging. And let's just say that, you know, it's not without merit. It's just not something I'm going to say. And I don't mean to be a jerk that way. No, no, no. But I just, I can't. I'm going to try to lay low this weekend. All right. So why do you say? Because there's two unnamed teams that are in the race right now. Dark horses. But why does Washington? It could be anybody. 32 teams. Because they're starting to stack a roster. He has a relationship with AD. He loved playing with them. It's just. All right. Now you've made a case with that one point. It's just. It could be on LeBron's radar. And if the stars align and everyone's healthy next year. And Will has a pitch for him. and he doesn't want to go to the Lakers. How about this? It's a short-term thing. It's a short-term thing. It's the same thing that Jordan did. Why not just, if we're going to go there, why don't we go there? Why don't we just get KD to come too? Get KD to come home. Start the KD to D.C. thing again. Let's just do it one last time. Come home, baby. KD to D.C. too. KD to D.C. finally. Let me just say this about LeBron. I watch a lot of the Lakers because, you know, I'm a Luka fan. And LeBron is still very good, but he's not the player that you think of with LeBron. Of course. He gets a lot of dunks because he cherry picks a little bit. Yeah. And Luka throws these long passes to him. He doesn't play defense like he used to. No, he lets guys go. He lets guys go right by him. He's the third best player on that team. Alton Reeves is better than him. Will's got me thinking delusional. That's all. I think it's delusional. Well, I didn't think Trae Young was possible. I didn't think AD was possible. You know what? We're dreaming big, Valdez. Anything is possible. Scorching kids of bullets. Kevin Garnett. Anything is possible. I thought you watched him play a game because neither AD or Trae Young have stepped on the court yet. I'm going to be honest with you, JP. I'm watching a lot of effing wizards. Oh, look at you. That's good. Hold on. But why would the Wiz be interested in LeBron's farewell tour? I don't know. It's just where they're trying to go. It's a stars aligning thing because he has a relationship with AD. That's your big part. That's my big thing. They're collecting old stars. Push for the championship. But you can only collect so many old stars because then the young stars, or hopefully the stars, aren't going to be on the court. See, the idea is hopefully that Trey and AD stick and are here for a few years. You want to bring Durant back? You want to bring LeBron? I don't know. Will could be collecting them like Pokemon. No, I don't think so. Getting the whole band back together. I'm willing to go there. I'm willing to think about it. I'm willing to say there's a non-zero chance that it could happen. The problem is it just doesn't fit into their plan to me. Well, sometimes plans will change. Maybe. But how would it benefit them long-term? to have LeBron. I'm not thinking about long-term. I'm thinking about the 2020 the 2026-2027 season and how on fire that would be with those three stars in the lineup. Well, people would definitely go see him. But right now the Lakers... Here's the problem with that logic. Right now the Lakers aren't even a legit contender with Luka, Austin Reeves, and LeBron. Well, LeBron paired up with Trey and AD is inferior to the trio in LA. I don't think the idea would be that it would make you a contender. It would just be... It would put you on the map. Nobody's next to the Wizards to be a contender next season. I don't think a lot of people think that. He's giving you this dream scenario as to why LeBron would come here. Well, LeBron wants to be the contender. The guy has a fever dream he's walking through right now. He barely coherent Was he going to go to New York Was he going to go to Boston I would think he would stay in LA Or maybe I don't think he'd go back to Cleveland. I think he could go back to Cleveland. Maybe. I ain't coming to Washington. This is a minor note. Hold on. I want to play this other clip real quick. What were you going to say? I just wanted to say that last night you got to see Jaden Hardy play for. And he's not going to be some major piece. But I'm telling you, Jaden Hardy can play. He was part of the deal, and he put up 11 points in 15 minutes. I can't remember who said it, but somebody said he's the king of garbage time. Whether the Wizards are leading by a lot, which isn't usually the case, or trailing by a lot. So just some context. Chris Miller, maybe? I don't know. I don't know. On the broadcast. Not sure. Real quick. I did Ben. But I watched him in the NBA Finals. He can contribute. Kansas State lost by 40. Well, I don't know, 30 last night. Okay. To Cincinnati. Cincinnati is just an average team. Kansas State was playing them at home. Kansas State is bad. They are 1-10 in the Big 12. But they got embarrassed at home in Manhattan, Kansas. 91-62. And this is what their coach, Jerome Tang, who's in year four, year one, he got to the Elite Eight. Year two, I think NIT. Year three bad. This year, awful. He's probably going to get fired up this year. This is what he said about his team after the game. I'm going to honor Christ like I always do. Blessed to do this. But this was embarrassing. These dudes do not deserve to wear this uniform. There will be very few of them in it next year. Like, I'm embarrassed for the university. I'm embarrassed for our fans, our student section. You know, it is just ridiculous. We've got practice at 6 a.m. tomorrow morning, and we will get this thing right. I have no answer and no word, so you've got two questions. So whoever wants to ask two questions, I'll answer them to the best of my ability right now. But right now, I'm like pissed. Oh, man, he's cleaning house. He might be part of it. Most coaches, I mean, there are coaches out there, like the Danny Hurleys of the world, he might criticize the team. Mick Cronin out of UCLA. But most coaches aren't going to say that. He basically said, we suck, and these kids aren't going to be here next year. It's pretty straightforward. I mean, you know what it is? Refreshing. Yeah, I like it. Honest. He's honest. Absolutely. But he might not be there next year. He might not be there. Yeah, he may be swept out, too. All right, when we come back, we will hit the skins. And don't forget, we'll talk to Mark Turgeon, former Terps head coach. He'll now be at UMKC next season. He'll join the show coming up at 8 o'clock here on The Fan. We're celebrating 30 years of the junks brought to you by our friends at Main Street Bank. Cheer local, bank local. Main Street Bank is a business-focused community bank proudly serving the DMV since 2004. Visit mstreetbank.com to learn how to put their team in your office. Main Street Bank, member FDIC, equal housing opportunity lender. Mark Turgeon is going to join us in about an hour. That's at 8 o'clock. He'll be taking over as the head coach for UM Kansas City next season. I booked him because, first of all, he's a good dude. He's always been very honest with us. And I just want to kind of feel how the process started to get back into coaching because he was out since 22. Right. what he did in the last three, four seasons, how he's preparing for this portal NIL stuff. He was dealing with that, too, at the end of his Maryland years, but it's a lot different now. So he'll be interesting to talk to. So he'll join us at eight. But right now we will hit the skins, give you the latest on the commanders. What's going on with them as they prepare for 2026? I don't know, Cakes. that we want to play these Josh Harris clips here, Valdez. You know, we've been talking about, and I think people are getting a little overly excited about it, about the Spear logo that they're obviously incorporating, that Daryl Green out there with a Spear. Definitely working it in. They're putting these logos out with a Spear. They're getting the fan base ready for it. I guess Josh Harris did a podcast recently where he was asked about kind of what they're doing with their sort of the rebranding, the spear, and they're actually kind of embracing the Native American imagery. We're embracing the commander's name, and it turns out that, you know, we did the 250th anniversary of the Navy, and so we relaunched our branding campaign at that game, and it's commander is a leader of warriors, and we start with the Romans and then we go to the Native American tribes and then we go to special forces and they all have these swords, which is like this tip of the spear, right? It's a tip of the spear. It says swords. Swords, yeah. That jumped out. Come on, buddy. It's called a sword. He said sword. He's a highly educated multi-billionaire. It should be sword. It should be. I mean, English is a weird language. You all know that. But, I mean, ever since I was a little kid, it's sword. It's not sword. It's not. It's just not. But I think, look, I think it is what it is. They're jumping into it. It's another way to sell more gear. I don't think it's a pathway to bringing Redskins back. Probably not. I would not think that's the case. Unfortunately, it's a shame. I love the name Redskins. But I don't think that's what this is. And I know that there's a large majority of the fan base, you know, probably in our age range that thinks that's what this is. He is keeping the door open a crack, though, when he mentions the fact that the Spears, it can go with Romans, it can go with tribes, Native Americans. Like, I don't think it's happening either. But he leaves that door open a little tiny sliver. That's what he's doing. I just don't think they will. I don't think they will either. I think they're just embracing the spear imagery back and then tying it into commanders and commanding a Roman army. They're trying to tie it all together. They're trying to walk that tightrope as much as they can so that Redskins fans don't feel disenfranchised. Let's bring as much of that back as we can, but we're never going to bring Redskins back, but let's bring as much of it as we can. They won't rebrand us the Washington Spears. How about Swords? Swords I think they're out of rebranding Yeah, probably Though I do have a bet on the books That they will, I think they will rebrand By, I think it's 2027 I'm probably going to lose that I'm probably going to take an L there I'm probably going to wear that All the old heads are going to be disappointed Oh by the way, Valdez, can you please update me Because you put this little birdie in my ear yesterday that does JP owe me a sizable bet that I won? Oh, really? I think he does. Yeah. So we might as well rectify it while we're in the bet book. Does JP know about this? He's about to. Actually, when I put in, what bet did I put in yesterday? It was the, sorry. It's okay. There's a lot of bets in there. Yeah, there are. It's just fifth through. Oh, about Sinnott and his catch total of the season. Yeah. I discovered Patriots will win the AFC at 2-1 for $5. Cakes, yes. JP, no. Yes. Well, I took the field. Okay. When was that? That was consummated on 12-2. Okay, so early December. Oh, so before the playoffs started. Yeah. That's weird. That's weird. The Cakes was betting on Drake May. I bet on Drake May. You should be proud of me. I bet on your guy. Who would have thought he would have had such a Charmin soft way to the Super Bowl, okay? All right, pay him up. Ten bucks. I'm glad to take it. I'll take cash if you haven't. I do digital money or real U.S. currency. I don't scrimmage. You're 20 if you have a change. You know what? I think I might have exactly $10 off it. Nice. Let's see here. While you guys are paying that off, we talked about this a couple days ago, that Debo was out partying at the Super Bowl, hanging out with Christian McCaffrey and George Kittle and those guys, and some people were making a big deal about it, and others were saying, well, of course, I mean, those are his friends. Those are his teammates. They'll be his boys for life. But they did add some fuel to the fire. They were asked about it, and George Kittle says, all the boys are coming back again. Who knows? We may add some past friends. I hung out with Debo last night. That was fun. I love Debo. Are you kidding me? And then Christian McCaffrey talked about it. He said, Debo is one of the favorite guys I've ever played with. We all love Debo. Our whole staff loves Debo. All the players love Debo. We all love Debo. There's no question he would be welcomed back. He's such a good energy. Does the long sapper who he put his hand in his face on the sideline, does he love Debo? He might not. I'm going to guess he probably doesn't love Debo. Well, maybe they just had a bad day. It was just a bad day. Could be. So there might be something there to them actually making a pitch for them. I didn't hear John Lynch say it. No. True. But I'm going to now take that out of the unlikely things and put it into it's possible. I guess anything's possible. I think it's possible. I personally, I want to be clear That for the right price And I don't mean like league minimum But you know what, a fair price for a player of his caliber I would like to have Debo back I think he was Helpful And he doesn't have to be the number two guy But he is a big time contributor I'd like to have him I think it would be a blow if we lost him If you could have Debo or Pierce Who would you rather have? I guess everybody wants Pierce because he's younger and he's more explosive. Can I have both? Well, let's just say it's a cap thing and you've got to make a decision. I guess I would take the young guy, but it would be a gamble. Well, I mean, you're going to pay both of them around at least $20 million per season. Because Debo already played for $17.5 million this past season, and I don't see him going backwards on that money. Although, if you look at what the values are for a guy like that at his age, for the numbers he puts up, it's about $13. Okay. I just think the market's going to be higher because the salary is not showing up. Yeah, more than that, but I don't think it's going to be a crazy number. I mean, sometimes they go backwards, Cakes. It's either go backwards or go home. Could be. Let's go to Ken in Rockville. Ken, what's up, buddy? You're home with the junkies. How are you, man? I'm okay. Hey, Ken. Only okay? Just okay? What's wrong? Yeah, I'm okay. Yeah, I'm okay. This stuff about the Spear is so stupid. Okay? The only people who care about this are old. That's what it is. The only people who care about this are old white guys like you, Kevin Sheehan, Al Galdi, people like that. Nobody cares. The young people don't care. It's going back to Native American imagery, which will get backlash. Believe me, it's going to get backlash. They don't want to be your mascot. Period. Well, hold on. I think the spear is coming back. You're very fired up. The spear is coming back. Yeah, because I get tired of it. Give it up. Okay? It was racist. The whole organization was racist. It's changed. I disagree with that. I don't know if the whole organization is racist. I think you're making a leap there. I think you're making a leap there. They've been racist going back to the 60s when they wouldn't allow a black player to play for the team. All right. That might have been true. Learned Native Americans for decades. But Ken, I'll say this. You obviously want to fight, so I'm happy to fight you. I'm happy to. You're the dumbest one there is. Right. Well, I'm happy to debate you. You're a madder lunatic. I'm happy to debate a guy like you. There isn't one person I've ever encountered in the history of my lifetime that used the word redskins in a derogatory or racist way. And intent matters. Not one person. It's in the dictionary. Anybody can make up a definition for a dictionary. Talk to the activists like Amanda Blackhorse, et cetera, who helped get the name changed. We know Amanda Blackhorse. She was in our studio. Yeah, and you mocked her. You mocked her. I don't think there was mocking. Oh, I don't know. You remember that. We might have. We might have. Hey, for someone who... You mocked her. Hey, for someone who... Nothing you say is going to change my mind. I'm on the right side, and that's it. You're actually on the left side. Well, thank you for listening. But that still could be the correct side. Hey, for someone who hates us so much, he's listened for a long time. We'll take that. We'll take haters. I mean, jeez. If people are listening, if they're haters, we don't care. Keep listening. We appreciate that. I hate that we've gone down this road, but we lost the debate. I wish they would be called the Redskins, but I understand we lost it. We lost the debate. They're not coming back. Why is he so bitter about a spear? He's a political psycho. I mean, are spears like... By the way, Native Americans are the only people who use spears. It's not exclusive to that group. A lot of Native Americans liked the name Redskins and felt it honored their culture. Well, I'm not even, I mean, that debate's been over for a long time. I mean, we're talking about a spear. Right. Ultimately, the reason why they lost the name is they lost the money. That's all. That's why they lost the name. They lost the money. The money went away. The sponsor said we're not paying for it. Yeah, and that's why they'll never bring it back. Man, this world. It's not because of what Ken thinks. Hey, this world gets on my effing nerves. So, hold on. Does Ken think Josh Harris is racist? Because he's the one who is... Well, he must. I guess. So, Josh Harris is a racist because... No, the whole organization, according to Ben, they're all racist. So, Aspyr is racist now. Well, according to Ben, I guess, yeah. It's a really bizarre way of... Ben's getting a lot of ADs for Aspyr. I think it was Ken. That was Ken. Oh, Ken. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ken. Shaky voice Ken. Ken, Ben, same thing. That's why he said he was only okay Alright That was fun I'm trying to see if there's anything else Everyone's feeling like Ken Ben Everyone's doing mocks And that sort of thing Of course Potential free agents But we've got plenty of time to go through all that stuff Don't forget Mark Turgeon Will join us coming up at 8 Here on the Junk Open line Thursday brought to you by Window Nation Searching for new windows and doors Search windonation.com. Their windows are measured to fit the first time and installed by experts to last. Windonation for your home because it's where you live. Phones have been popping a little bit today on an open line Thursday. I like it. Some of the callers get a little feisty. Right. They're ready to rumble. I'm willing to rumble. Sure. Are you in a fight mood? Listen, if this guy challenges me, I'm never going to back down. Unless you have a gun. You're Tom Petty. Then I'll back down. Won't back down. Yeah. It's your mantra. I miss fighting eBay. I'll never back down. And I'm definitely not going to back down from a verbal argument. Sure. Verbal altercation? I mean, we make our living on verbal arguments. That's right. Yeah, exactly. It's how our bread is buttered. How to put food on the table. Yeah. How you put food on your family. Exactly. I've got to find that. That was a good one. I've got to find that. Exactly. It's over here somewhere. What? Food on your family. Food on your family. Oh, here it is. This is such a good one. And you're working hard to put food on your family. Always working hard to put food on your family. So, by the way, what is the latest on the Guthrie thing? I saw they found some glove. I'm really starting to just think everything's fake, like it's a planted glove or something. I'm telling you, it's just the weirdest story ever. I don't know. It's so convenient. They found a glove. Yeah, right. Criminals are stupid anyway, but you've got to be royally stupid if you're throwing the gloves out in the street. in the neighborhood that you used to cover the camera. Like a mile away? I don't know. It just seems really weird. It's the weirdest story ever. Could it be from like a trash man? I mean, it could be from anything. It's the weirdest story ever. I told Cakes this yesterday. We, unless there's like a real significant update, and this sucks, but this is how society is trending, that it's going to get washed in the news cycle, I feel like. Like if there's just no conclusion to it, there's no significant update. Like, it was close to that happening before the ring camera came out, I feel like. Which sucks for the Guthrie family, but we have a very small attention span as it is. Well, it's lasted a long time. It has reached a point, though, with some people that they're over it. If you look online, you'll see plenty of threads where people are like, it's terrible for the Guthrie family, but there are other things going on in the world. Yeah. And they don't want the 24-7 coverage. Right. Now, some of us like it because it's a mystery and it's a whodunit and you're kind of intrigued by it all, which, you know, is like a perverse. And how long can the feds put all of these resources into this one case? Right. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I mean, you're creeping on two weeks. I mean, are they going to do it for four weeks, six weeks, eight weeks? I mean, the chances of them finding Nancy Guthrie alive, I think, are effectively zero. It's zero. I mean, zero. As each day passes and there's no real update, I think people are coming to that realization and are just, in their brains, they're just kind of moving on. It's not going to be resolved. Unless there's a huge break in the case. But even at a huge break, I question whether or not they'll have the right person if they come up with a person. Like, I don't think anything is possible. Let's see what happens. They might try to find somebody. Oh, yeah, they're trying. Yeah. I mean, they're, but these feds are now looking, I mean, they're going through every yard of the neighborhood, and they're looking at, like, draining its wells. All right. They don't, they know she's not alive. They're grasping. They're officially in grasping mode. Correct. They're just looking for any holes. They're just looking for clues, man. They're just looking for clues. Yeah. And they're getting mobillion tips, but, I mean, 95% of them are bogus. Yeah, I mean, how credible are the tips that are coming in? well it's pretty amazing how they get when they have that video like we talked about like some people the crowdsourcing which i'm a huge hugely believe in the power of crowdsourcing maybe i can see maybe a tattoo here whatever they immediately could find the jacket is like an ozark trail i think it is that they sell at walmart okay got that they got the backpack they're able to id the backpack wherever that's from um and you know maybe that could be a starting point. He got his whole fit broken down. It's amazing what they can do. Yeah. I don't know. I was hoping to wake up this morning and see more of an update than they found a glove. That's all they found. That's all they got, man. But again, they're probably they don't tell us the majority of what they're looking at. Of course. That goes without saying. But you would think maybe there'd be a leak or something. Well, hopefully there's something today or this weekend. It's just sad. People are really, really reading into the body language of the kids when they're giving the statements. I don't see anything. You're a body language expert. No, I know. I am. When I look at it, though, I don't see anything super guilty. They're not giving anything. Some people say they think that they see the sister maybe trying to muffle a giggle or something, which I don't see that. Yeah. But some people have said that. Well, without any closure or information, you just grasp at anything you can. Yeah. I have a feeling that this is just all going to lose steam, and then everyone's just going to assume that she's dead, and while the investigation just goes kind of unsolved. Yeah. It's possible. They can't continue at this rate. They did it for a lot longer, and there was a lot more people involved with the MH370, right? the plane. Yeah, the Malaysian plane. They did that for months. It still fascinates me. Still looking for it. Still looking for it. But I'm just saying the clock, the round-the-clock, 24-hour coverage, honestly, months. Yeah, I mean, you can only put so many resources to one case. Eventually, you know, something else can happen. Yeah, it's one big news story away from all of a sudden being second fiddle. Right, being on the back page. Yes. Back burner. It's not the lead anymore. It probably shouldn't be because, you know, people get murdered every day. Pretty cheery. People get abducted every day. People get abducted and murdered every day. It sucks. My buddy told me that the family hired a private security team. Okay. Yeah, that's what it appeared like. As opposed to just having the feds, you know. Well, maybe in addition. They hired their own detective. Like a search team. Yeah, I wonder why, though. Because they have the means to do it, and I guess they're desperate. I get it, but you've got, I don't know, 25 agents out there in the neighborhood? Yeah. Need another five? They're putting more eyes on it. Different angle. Also, people you can directly interact with, and you know you're going to get, presumably, the full scoop from. If you're dealing with the FBI, the FBI's only going to tell you what they want to tell you. Especially if they consider you suspects. They can hit the streets. Pound the pavement. That's right. That's what they're doing. Do you think it's suspicious that they hired their own details? No, I just think it's strange. I think they just want as many eyeballs. and as many boots on the ground as possible as they can get. Isn't that the whole premise of Gone Baby Gone? Right? I don't know. I can't remember. That's the one with Morgan Freeman, right? Yes. The Missing Child. It's a good flick. It's Boston porn. Casey Affleck? Yeah. Did O.J. have his own private investigator searching for the real killer for years? I believe he did at some point. Yes. Did he actually have somebody? No. Not sure that he actually he did. Dude, I was listening to somebody that's still, you know, sort of fascinated by that case and is convinced. By the OJ case? Yes. Okay, yeah. Because it's convinced that the son is really the one that did it. Oh, really? OJ took the fall for Jason. This is someone that really, really investigated it. Is that our buddy Tommy who believes that? No. No, Tommy just thinks he was not involved at all. Still, 100% innocent. How much does Mike Marr know about OJ Simpson? Different generation. Do you have a big file on O.J. Simpson? What college did O.J. Simpson go to? USC. Good job. Got it. Well done. Bronco. Case happened in 1994. That might be where it stops. All right. Hey, you got to hear. Who are the people that he allegedly killed? It was his brother-in-law. Wasn't it his sister's husband? No. No. No, no, no. I should have just retired on time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He should have. Yeah, so he plead the fifth. No, like his ex-wife or wife at the time. I don't even know. Was she the ex-wife at the time? I can't remember. Oh, I might get confused with Hernandez, the Patriots tight end. He killed his, like, brother-in-law. Allegedly. I think that might be right. You don't say it right. I like how you come to your bases. No, but OJ killed his ex-wife and then the waiter from the Mezzaluna restaurant. Yeah. That came back, presumably, if the story is correct, it could be just whatever, covering for him. To bring back some sunglasses that she left at the restaurant. Can Mike Mark fill in this blank? Wrong place, wrong time. Let me get what you're going to say. All right. If the glove don't fit, you must acquit. Who was the famous attorney that said that, that coined that? Rob Kardashian. No. That was a good lawyer, though, right? One of them. He was just not Rob. He was basically just there. Rob Kardashian. Testify against him. He's the nubby brother. It was Robert. Yeah. No, Johnny Cochran. You ever heard that name? Sure. Okay. He's seen it from like the Johnny Cochran law firm commercials. And then Bailey. Bailey. Wasn't Bailey. F. Lee Bailey. Yeah. There were a lot of lawyers. Bob Shapiro. Can you name the judge that oversaw the case? No, he can't. No. Judge Edo. Go blank on that. Lance. Lancey. I've seen the whole hour and a half documentary of the chase online, though, a couple of different times. Whenever it comes up. Who was driving, though, the white Bronco? It was his friend. Yep. Was it his teammate? It was his friend. It was his friend. What's his friend's name? I have no idea. Al Cowlings. How would he know? He was born in what year? Were you born in 2000? What's the biggest crime paper of your lifetime that resonates with you like an OJ case? Next, we're going to ask you about D.B. Cooper. Boston Marathon bombing. That's probably a big one. Were you alive for that? Yeah, yeah. Boston Marathon, I mean, I was alive for 9-11, but I was like a year, one year old. Yeah, you were alive. Yeah. I don't know. The Aaron Hernandez one was kind of crazy. Yeah, that's a good one. Just because, you know, watching football my whole life. Right. So that was kind of a wild one. That's definitely a wild one. Yeah. I don't know. The jet guy, wasn't he a jet that just murdered his girlfriend? Former jet, yeah. Darren Lee. Literally looking at death penalty. Yeah. I don't know. Was there an update on the Pierce? I haven't seen the update on Pierce. I mean, I guess he's just awaiting some sort of a trial or court hearing. That's a big dude, man. I'm surprised that those officers were able to get him. I appreciate his aggression. He just needs to keep it on the football field. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, he needs to keep that hustle on the field and then flip the switch and turn it off. It's hard. When he's out in public society. I'm not defending these guys, but they're kind of groomed to be these trained killers. And then to try to act like a normal human. It's also their job. I know. It's hard to turn it off, I think, maybe. Okay. They're raised to be these violent animals. Well, the vast majority of the players do turn it off. You're right. You're right. So how about you? I mean, he clearly needs, like, anger management counseling. Yeah. Probably for the rest of his life. Yeah. I mean, I think his future is bleak. He's probably not great. He clearly can't get it. Yeah, I mean, how can the Falcons bring him back after he did that all on video? Well, I think they will bring him back. He's going to serve a lengthy suspension, but I think they're going to bring him back. I don't know. You might be right. You might be right. On video? If he was mediocre and had two sacks as a rookie and wasn't worth the investment, they'd be like, okay, we're going to cut ties with him. But the guy had ten and a half sacks as a rookie. And I'm not dismissing what he did. I mean, what he did was terrible. He might have one more chance. He's going to get a second chance. One more. I feel like at some point. He's going to sort of release the six or eight games. You're beating up your girlfriends? That's not good. And I wouldn't be surprised that even if you're a really good player, the team says, sorry, buddy. Could be. That could be his ultimate fate. Can't touch you. How about the receiver at BYU, Parker Kingston? Oh, yeah, I saw that. He's accused of rape, right? Yeah, they did an investigation for a year. Apparently this happened February of last year. He just got engaged to his girlfriend, I think. Man, that's bad. What is the situation? Was it at a party or something? I didn't see where it happened, but the woman, she called the cops and told the cops to come to the hospital. Right away. Right away. Yeah. Not good. 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Let Offenbachers help you upgrade your backyard today. And don't forget, Offenbachers now carries indoor and outdoor saunas. EB is a big fan of his. He will be of yours, too, if you purchase one from Offenbachers. All right, so Super Bowl wrapped up. You had Radio Row, Podcast Row. and one of the debates may be set up because there's going to be a game, a flag football game in Saudi Arabia but there was a debate between Logan Paul who has a show called Impulsive Thankfully I don't know the difference between the two Pauls. And Tom Brady Yes. Brady is going to be participating in this Fanatics flag football game as is Jaden Daniels Right. God, you're paying so much money. And Brady took offense to Paul talking about his athleticism. Take a listen. I'm told that I'm being flown out to Saudi Arabia to compete in a Fanatics flag football game with you. Yeah, you know what? I'm actually a little worried for you. What about me? Well, you're a good athlete, but you're like, these guys are another level. I am the highest level. I am the level. No, you're not the level. I am the level. You're a good athlete. But honestly, when I'm thinking of Saquon Barkley and I'm thinking of like Bro, can Saquon Barkley do a flip off the top rope? Have you not seen him? A 180 moonsault? Of course he can. It's cute. It's a great, you know, I love WWE. It's very cute. But honestly, this is like real football. This is real competition. I was an all-state linebacker. I rushed for 1,200 yards. 19 touchdowns. That makes me laugh. Listen, I actually think that he is a good, maybe even great athlete. He's unbelievable what he does with wrestling. I mean, I've seen it. It's unbelievable. He's really talented. Right. But are you kidding Saquon? Saquon can do anything you can do. Yeah. And then he's trying to pump up his football resume with Tom Brady sitting 10 feet away. Right. Talking about, oh, I did this in high school when I was Harry High School football star. Everybody's got a high school athlete. It's laughable. I put this up on a pole of the day. He's a great athlete, but those guys are next level. Yeah, I mean, come on. Our Surfside Pole of the Day. What is that game? I'm not sure. Not sure of the date. I think in a couple months, but I'm not positive. For some reason, I feel like it was in April, but I'd have to double check. Poll of the day is brought to you by Surfside. Use the code JUNKS at store.statesidevodka.com to get 25% off select merchandise, tees, hats, hoodies, and more. Use the code JUNKS at store.statesidevodka.com. Whose side are you on in that debate? Tom Brady and Logan Paul went at it. Paul compared himself to Saquon Barkley. Brady called Paul cute. No. Yeah. I'm clearly on Tom Brady. Team Brady here. How about this, though? There are different types of athleticism because the truth is Tom Brady, the greatest, a lot of people say the greatest of all time in the NFL, he'd probably lose in a running race to Logan Paul. Tom Brady cannot do what Logan Paul can do. No. Yeah, but also, whatever Paul knows, he can't do what Tom Brady has done. Read a defense. He definitely can't. And Paul does a fake sport. Right. Now, there's athleticism required, but it's a fake sport. Right. Sports entertainment. And I think that Jake Paul's probably tough. Scripted. Logan Paul. Logan Paul. But you can't say that the NFL guys aren't tough. I mean, they're all tough. Logan Paul did fight Floyd Mayweather. That was a joke. That was a joke. That was a one grab. That was Logan Paul's only boxing match. And again, I'm very happy. I can't distinguish one ball from another. Like, if they walked in here and you said which one is Logan, which one is Logan, I wouldn't be able to tell you. I do seem confused, but Jake is the bigger one. My bigger takeaway is I don't care. I think Logan's actually maybe taller. Yeah, but just like bigger, burlier. I think Jake's taking more steroids. Probably. Yeah. Probably. John Harbaugh is filling out his staff for the New York Giants. he's adding that dynamo Brian Callahan to his staff as the new passing game coordinator. Is his personality like his dad's? I don't think he's got a great personality. Now, his dad was known for being a hard-ass, right? A hard-ass O-line coach. Yeah, I got him right here. We've got to be the dumbest team in America in terms of playing the game. I think that's when he was at Nebraska. So Callahan, he was working with Cam Ward in Tennessee. He goes to the Giants to work with Jackson Dart. Meanwhile, Brian Dable, who was the head coach of the Giants, he's going to Tennessee to work with Cam Ward. Kind of intrigued with Dable with Cam Ward in year two. Let's see how that works out. Dable, as an offensive coordinator, he's got chops. Definitely. Now his chops look better when he has Josh Allen as his brother. I mean, he won a national championship in college at Alabama. He won Super Bowls as an offensive coordinator. I mean, he can do that. Might not be a great head coach, but I think he's a good OC. So what is Callahan? Is he going to be the quarterback? Passing game coordinator. Do you know there was a bet about whether Mark Wahlberg would show up at the Super Bowl? Hey, man, there's a big bet about whether Mark Wahlberg should show up at the Super Bowl, man. that's why Pablo Francisco is Mark Wahlberg it was apparently a 24 million dollar Calci question I don't know that sounds like the fix was in on that I mean the money bet on Wahlberg showing up exceeded the wagers on 31 other actors and politicians combined I guess he's he did not so the guy bet but 24 million dollars I guess was wagered on whether he would show up to the Super Bowl. So was it wagered that he would? Or just he can go both ways? So there's a lot of discussion about polymarket, and all of these markets. They're not sports. Predictions markets. Yeah, the prediction markets. You're trading with other people. Right. And a lot of them. That seems like ripe for abuse. Well, it is. But also a lot of people think they have inside information just based off of Internet rumors, online rumors. And a lot of people are getting boned because of that. specifically because they had a market about Giannis, like what's his next team going to be. And Giannis is like an investor in Calci, which is a huge conflict of interest. He ended up floating rumors that he was going to move on from the Bucs, and then there's a lot of money in that market that was wagered, and then all of a sudden the rumor was fake, and he stayed with the Bucs, and he came out as a Calci endorser. Right. There's a lot of nefarious things going on in these polymarket, Cal Shea, and open markets that are going on. Unless they're going to pay me to talk about them, I'm going to stay away from those markets. One other Super Bowl nugget, Will Campbell, who was abused, gave up 14 pressures in the Super Bowl, 26.9% pressure rate. He apparently said that he played during the season and the playoffs with a torn ligament in his knee. And that's why he didn't speak to the media. He just didn't want to deal with it. Well, how about he just takes five minutes, speaks to the media, and just acts like a man, and then goes into the offseason and heals his knee. We also have some interesting audio from former Pittsburgh Steeler Joey Porter, talking about Big Ben, his former teammate, Ben Roethlisberger. I heard this. Broke the brotherhood. Then Seven definitely broke the brotherhood, because like... That's the one I don't understand. seven do that did that we don't talk about? I know. It's crazy. Like, like anybody should talk. He should never grab a microphone and really talk still of business. Yeah. Because if we talk in still of business, his ass is foul of all foul. Like that he did is foul of all foul. He's not a good teammate. Won a Super Bowl, would he? But the person, he's just not a good teammate. Like he knows that. Anybody in the Steeler building knows that, but we protected him. Because I've only won one Super Bowl, and that was my quarterback. So do I love my quarterback? Yeah, but is he a good person? No. Who was Austin Bird? Called him a bad person. Who was Austin Bird? Man, that's pretty explosive. I know, like, when he was in college, he was accused of something. Well, didn't he have a sexual assault charge? He had a sexual assault charge when he was in the Steelers. Okay. He definitely had that. Remember, he was at a bar, and he was in a bar. Yeah, and maybe something happened in the bathroom. I'm sure there's a lot of other things. But what's about the teammate part, though? That's a separate incident, right? That's okay. He's a bad person if that occurred. But what about the teammates? Well, when he was a rookie early in his career, some of the vets would ask him to sign gear for their family members. He said no. He just refused. And Porter went up to him and said, no, no, no, no, bro. You're going to sign this. Oh, I like that he stepped in and did that. Valdez, correct me if I'm wrong. I could be completely wrong on this. I think around the time of the Ben Roethlisberger assault case, it's the first I ever heard the initials DTF. Is that where that came from? Yeah, DTF became really hot. Yeah, it became really hot. He was wearing that T-shirt. I don't know if he was wearing the T-shirt or she was wearing a hat that said DTF. It was something like that. I think she was, not him. Yeah, she was wearing something that said DTF. I thought it was a Jersey Shore thing. No, you're thinking of GTL. I know, but... It didn't say laundry. It's way different. I understand that, but I feel like it's the same era. Maybe it did originate with Jersey Shore. I don't know that. But that's the first I'd ever heard those letters strung together to stand for what it stands for. And that was, what, a dozen years ago? Probably more. 16 years ago? That's a long time. We're still in Fairfax. Yeah. That is a long time ago. We're so old. We're freaking dinosaurs. source i'll never i'll never forget when mike wise proved a social experiment after the the ben roethlisberger thing okay that happened he goes watch i'm just gonna say he's suspended for eight games and then and i said i get he goes i guarantee you people will pick up on it without any kind of sourcing or anything okay and then he just he tweets ben roethlisberger suspended eight games from the nfl and then it took off like wildfire right and then he got in so much trouble oh i'm I'm sure he got it. That gets a call to the principal's office when you do that. He got slapped on the wrist a little bit. That could not go over well. So I asked AI where did DTF come from. Yeah. Jonah Hill used it in Superbad. Okay. Flip it used to the term. And then it does say in the next sentence helped along by the Jersey Shore cast Okay So that earlier origins You were right They pushed it You got good memory Sadly it was a Jersey Shore mark I just remember Brett Oliverio, biggest Jersey Shore mark on the planet. Dude, that was a great TV. That was his jam. We had watch parties. They did. I know they've done various incarnations of it. But if they did another one, like with new young people, they kind of did that with Barstool. I know you guys don't really pay attention to Barstool. Barstool kind of did like a Jersey Shore thing in the summer. It was kind of interesting. Just watching a bunch of young people trying to bang. I had to reboot it. Get Dan and sexy. Yep. Get drunk. So Jonah Hill said he had some boys. He says, I knew there were taggers and their crew was called DTF. So he put it in the scene. And then, shocker, the guy who got arrested and was in jail, I believe, for tax evasion, It said, Jersey Shore, the situation made T-shirts and made a lot of money off of it. Smart. He's an entrepreneur. The sitch. Good for him. All right, coming up next, we'll be joined by Mark Turgeon. He's taking over as the head coach for UMKC next season. You know him best as the former Terps head coach here in the D.C. area in College Park. Mark Turgeon will join us next. We're celebrating 30 years of the junks brought to you by Main Street Bank. Chair local, bank local, Main Street Bank is a business-focused community bank, proudly serving the DMV since 2004. Visit mstreetbank.com to learn how to put their team in your office. Main Street Bank, member FDIC, equal housing opportunity lender. Let's head to the Rude Guest Hotline, shall we? And welcome in Mark Turgeon, who's taking you over as the head coach for the University of Missouri-Kansas City next season. You know him as the former Terps head coach at the University of Maryland. For a decade. Coach, thanks for joining us. We appreciate your time. What's up, buddy? What's up, guys? How are you guys doing? Doing great, man. I'm great. Congratulations. Yeah. Thank you. How did this all come about? You know, I was on a trip with my wife up to New York, enjoying retirement like I have for the last four years. And they gave me a call. I had no idea the job was open. So, you know, I was going to listen to them and talk to them because it was back home, close to family and where I went to college and went to high school. And so I listened. And it wasn't a great job when we first started talking and was able to negotiate a few things to make it a better job. And, you know, I think it's got enormous potential because of Kansas City. It's a great sports town. They love hoops. So just my wife and I decided let's give it another shot. So here we are. That's pretty cool, man. I know that, you know, you live in the same neighborhood I do. We have some mutual friends. The word on the street always was, Coach, that, you know, your wife loved it here. I know, you know, you're fine here. I wanted to raise the kids and everything. But that you always wanted to go back home. Is that true on some level? Eventually you always wanted to find your way back home? Yeah, we loved it. We love Maryland. We're going to keep our house for a little bit. I've got two kids that are East Coast kids. That's all they know. And so I had to get the family on board, and they're on board with it. And, no, we've got great friends. It's going to be really hard to say goodbye. We've never lived somewhere 15 years in our marriage. So we had a great church, great friends. since I retired from coaching I got into pickleball and met so many great people love that you're a pickleball community you think he's not going to get establishing one in Kansas City? he's got to find some new guys out there what's your rating? what do you rate yourself? you know anywhere from when I'm playing really well I'm a 4-0 All right. I'm a 4-0, yeah. Most of the time I'm probably a 3-7-5, but when I'm playing well, I'm a 4-0 probably. Nice. Cakes, what are you? I have no idea. Oh, okay. I'll tell you what, I'm not a 4-0. Right, right, right. He's never been a born of life. Not a school or a pickleball. Hey, Coach, did you, in the last four years or so, did you have other opportunities? Did any other schools reach out to you and just said, you know what, I'm done? I just can't do it anymore? Yeah, I had a lot of opportunities. And I was done. And about a year ago, I started to get the itch again. And I was involved. You know, I started a consulting business. So I stayed really involved in coaching. I worked with college coaches. And so I was still a part of it. But that, you know, that kind of scratched the itch for me. And I thought that was enough. And, I don't know, we became empty nesters. My kids had moved on. I was able to spend, you know, four great years with my kids. and really get to be a part of their life. Yeah, so, you know, that was – I'll never – I'll always remember that time. It was a great time in my life. But, yeah, we just decided this was – we talked about moving back to the Midwest. We talked about moving back to Kansas City. So to be able to move back to Kansas City and coach again, you know, I'm pretty juiced up, to be quite honest with you. No, that's super exciting. and we'll definitely be following you from afar. You're always so kind to us. But I'm curious. I'm not surprised that an old coach wants to go back. I always believe these real coaches, once they coach, it's always in them. It's like all they know. But it's different now, Coach. Yeah. It's so different. And you don't see a lot of old guys saying, you know what, I want to get back in with NIL and everything. And I know it was a pain in the ass when you were there dealing with recruiting and trying to keep up with everything. how have you wrapped your brain around that well I'm at a lot of different level NIL is a part of where I am it's not a huge part so I'll get outbid a lot for kids so I get that I know I'm going to lose kids that I develop so I understand that and I told my wife that and I told my kids that one of the beauties of this deal is I'm taking my son Will with me, and he's going to be one of my assistants. So that was always a dream of ours to do that. And obviously towards the end of my Maryland career, it wasn't a great situation to do that. So, yeah, so there's a lot of things. But I'm not scared of the NIL. I think it's something that I'm in a place that it's a great city. It's got a lot of money. I've got a lot of Jayhawk fans out here that I think are going to jump on board with me. Knights at KU is not playing. I think they'll be at our games. We're moving our games down to Municipal Auditorium off campus because we feel like we're going to sell a ton of tickets and people are going to be behind us. Yeah, I was wondering, do you have a gym situation? Like, what is that like? Well, we have an on-campus facility, and then we play down at Municipal, which is where we're going to play all our games, is where a lot of Final Fours were back in the 50s and 60s. It's an older building. Is that near the convention center? Yes, right next door. Yeah, I know where that is. So, yeah, we've got a lot of things going on with that. I haven't been named coach yet. I know it's out there. I don't get named coach until at least March 9th. And so I'm kind of more Turgeon University right now, just out selling myself and traveling around. I'm out here in the Midwest, so I'll be out here for about 15 days looking at players and on my own dime just because I hate losing, as you guys know. So we have nowhere to go but up, but I think there's tremendous potential with this program. I have a lot of goals out. We don't have an on-campus facility, really. We play in a rec center. So my goal is to build a new on-campus facility for this school and for the future coach there. So, yeah, I have a lot of goals. I've always done that, built the practice facility at Maryland and didn't get any credit for it, but I raised all that money. Don't let anybody else think they raised it. Oh, nice. I like you patting yourself on the back tonight, Coach Purge. Take your claim there, Coach. Yeah, put it out there. That's great. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you and I had a lot of private conversations about what was going on at Maryland there towards the end. I know how you felt about it. By the way, have you scanned a list of the deep-pocketed UMKC donors and along the years start hitting up to make that practice? facility, a reality coach? Well, we want to build a new arena is what we want to do there. And so we don't have an on-campus arena, you know. Right. And at that level, a 4,000 or 5,000-seat arena would be perfect. So, yeah, there's some deep pockets, but, you know, the state's got to get behind it too. The university's got to get behind it. But those are some goals that we'll set. But most importantly, I want to get a team for next year and try to win. Yeah, how many guys you got right now? How many on your roster? Well, you know, they're still playing. They're still coaching. And, you know, they let Coach Menzie go, I think, in December, but I'm not exactly sure. So I'm sure these kids are being recruited all year to go somewhere else. So I won't know until May 9th when I meet with the team and meet individually with the guys how many I have. But I don't imagine I'll have a lot of players coming back in today's world. and, you know, that's the way it is and we'll figure out a way to put a team together. Yeah, so this current Kansas City team is 4-20. So he's got nowhere to go but up, right? Are you allowed to talk to the players currently or go watch them practice? No. Oh, you're not? Okay. No, it's their team. It's their family. Right, right. Yeah, you know, I've got to stay out of it. I haven't even been on campus yet, to be honest with you, And I'm going to do that tomorrow, I believe, tomorrow morning, and I'm going to go look at Municipal. We're going to build new offices down at Municipal, and we're going to do some things to upgrade that facility as we move into it next year. What are your thoughts on what's happening in College Park? I know, I mean, Buzz Williams is an accomplished guy. He got a coach. There's no doubt about it. Big win last night. Big win. It's Iowa, yeah. But, I mean, they are struggling. One of the worst years, you know, in history, really, to be honest with you. So from afar, sort of what is your take and what is sort of your expectation for that program? Well, I feel bad for everybody involved because I know, one, I know how hard it is to win, and I know how hard it is to move and take over a program and to go through it. So actually I talked to Buzz I think Friday, last Friday, might have been Saturday. They're 2-0 since I talked to him, so maybe I was good luck. There you go. And, yeah, he knows his faults. He knows what's happened. But he'll fix it. He's no dummy. And it's no fun going through it. And you hate it. You hate it for everybody. But I imagine he'll fix it. You know, you can fix things pretty quickly in college basketball now. Just as quickly as they can go bad, you can fix them and make it better for next season. What can you learn from what he went through? Because he went through all-new roster, right? Is there anything you can learn from what he went through? Well, the difference is I've been announced to coach in February, so I get a little head start. And I've already identified a lot of the best high school players out here in the Midwest, and we won't have a chance to see them all. And then junior college recruiting will be a big part of what we do. I've identified a lot of junior college players. I'm going to go out and see them, and I have a lot of friends out here that are watching players for me that I trust. So I get a little bit of a head start on it. And then to be quite honest with you, at my level, there's a lot more players that can play at UMKC than that can play at Maryland. So I'll have a bigger pool to choose from. I just got to choose the right ones. So, Coach, if a bigger program would have reached out to you to come coach, would you have still declined because you wouldn't want to deal with, you know, the portal and dealing with agents and you kind of want to develop players more? Or would you have been open to it? No, no, 100%. I was not going back to that level. Okay. You know, I just wasn't going to do it. I wasn't going back to a Power Five. And, you know, that was one of the commitments I had to make to UMKC, that that's not something that I want to do down the road. I'm really happy with this level and what I can do. You know, they've never been to the NCAA tournament. And so it's not a very old program. I think it's from the 80s. Late 80s. I looked up late 80s. Yeah, late 80s. And so, yeah, hopefully we can do some things they've never done and, yeah, and do it back home and be around friends and family. I got a lot of people excited, and I'm excited. I appreciate you guys having me on. I got to go to work here. I got to go into the gym, guys. What's up, man? You're a busy man. Go do your thing. We'll stay in touch with you, Coach. Thank you, Coach. Thanks, Coach. Appreciate it. That's Mark Turgeon. He's taking over as the head coach for UMKC next season. Of course, you know him as the Terps head coach for many seasons. Had NIL been around when he had his teams, who would have been the highest paid player to get? Diamond Stone. Diamond Stone. Oh, yeah. Diamond Stone would have been. Tess Wells. Tess Wells. Yeah, probably. Mellow Trimble. Dix. Mellow. Mellow would have been. Who's the guy that's on Oklahoma City at this point? Did he play under Turd or is that after? Wiggins. Wiggins. I feel like he was after. Was he post-Turgeon? Maybe. I think he might have been there. He's turned himself into a pretty good NBA player. Herder. Kevin Herder. Kevin Herder. Jake Lehman. Jake Lehman. He's out of the league, right? Yeah, yeah. He's out. What's Diamond Stone up to these days? I think he's playing in China. Okay. At least he's still playing. He's still looping. Well, I always loved Coach when he was here. He was great to us. He was always good to us, yeah. He's just honest. He's a genuine dude. He kind of reminds me of Jay. Jay Gruden's just honest. Turgeon that way, too. You guys don't know the most famous UMKC alum? I don't. Harry Truman. Oh, really? That's a pretty good one. Well, I'll tell you what. I hope Coach Turgeon likes the Dakotas because he'll be playing a lot of games in the Dakotas. Oh, he is? Oh, yeah, because they're in the Summit. They're North Dakota, South Dakota. I hope he's got that part of the country. I hope he's got a warm North Face jacket. North Dakota State. I mean, he's a lot of Dakotas. Yeah. It is the perfect fit for him. What about former Junk Switzer in Dakota? Very inside. That guy. That is a radio inside. He was young. Should be alive. Nice kid. All right. Nice kid. You know what? He showed up in a lot of Washington free game shows. Some Nats appearances we did. What do you think of the Wizards tanking? He was the biggest fan of coming up while we're right in the middle of the segment, like on air, and just talking. Good dude, but not entirely locked in. That's probably the best way to say it. All right, when we come back, we're going to give you a chance to win two tickets to see Matt Reif's Stay Golden World Tour that's coming to Capital One Arena soon on Sunday, March 1st. We'll give those tickets away when we come back. We're going to hook up caller number 10 right now at 800-636-1067. You're going to score two tickets to Matt Reif's Stay Golden World Tour Sunday, March 1st at Capital One Arena. Tickets are on sale right now. For tickets and more event info, go to thefandc.com slash events. Those tickets are courtesy of Live Nation. Tenth caller, you will win. So remember we debated this whole, and we said, no, it's not true or whatever. But I think it's kind of semantics and language about Devo. SpotTrack says, and we pretty much consider that the contract bible, right? Yeah, it's pretty good. It's a really good resource. Devo Samuel's contract set to be void today, leaving behind $12 million of dead cap to the commanders. So I don't think, you know, I think it was just an accepted thing. Like, it was a known thing. This was going to happen. But SpotTrack is saying, and I take SpotTrack, like, pretty much as the gold standard of contracts. Yeah. So it's interesting. So he earned $18.25 million last year. They say he carries, I don't know how they get this, a $16 million valuation into free agency. So that's $2 million less, Chase. Okay. Oh, I think I read $13 million somewhere. Okay. Well, SpotTrack has it at $16, but, yeah, maybe. I don't know. I just asked my connection. I said there's a story that says Debo gets a $12 million roster bonus if he's still on the team February 12th. Well, that's different than this. That's different. This is just saying that the semantics they have to do with contracts. Right. He just becomes a free agent a little bit earlier than the new year starts. I guess. That's basically what it is. His contract is set to void today, leaving $12 million of dead cap to the commanders. or whatever it's worth. Speaking of the commanders, we wanted to bring up some of these preseason predictions for the NFL in 2026. Did you see the predictions from Mike Tannenbaum, former general manager in the league? There's always got to be somebody, though, right? There's always got to be a zigger. When everybody else is zagging, he's the big guy. Yes. All right, so Mike Tannenbaum, who's an NFL analyst now for ESPN, here's his Super Bowl pick. He's got the commanders over the Bills in the Super Bowl. Right. He says quarterback Jaden Daniels stays healthy next season and bounces back in a big way. He plays in every game and finishes the season by out-dueling Allen and the Bills in a... I love this. This is the opposite of the Super Bowl we just watched. 45-42. Pew, pew, pew, pew. He's 45-42. In L.A. Well, it fits because we have a terrible defense. I mean, that's amazing. From his lips to God's ears. But just so we're clear, he now goes in that same ledge at Pantheon of Rich Eisen one year picked us. I think it was Mike Greenberg one year picked us. And then it was the guy Riddick. Louis Riddick. It was all the same year. Was it the same year? It was all the same year because you made it into a montage. And you were all fired up. After Jaden's appear, right? I mean, no, no, no. It was several years ago. Yeah. But a lot of people thought that the commanders were going to have a great year in year two of Jaden. Right. But that montage. That was more of a majority. That's when those guys were like the outliers. Look, it's an outlier now. I don't find it to be outrageous in that you just saw the Patriots in the Super Bowl who won four games a year. I think they're an outlier. And I don't think we're going to turn it around like that. The Commanders win the NFC Championship game a year ago. But if that does happen, Commanders fans are going to be around. The key is what he said. Jaden plays every game. Now, that's a stretch. Now, he goes off. That's a stretch. But he did it as a rookie. He did. This is going to be a defining year, not only for the team, the coach, the GM, for Jaden Daniels, not necessarily about his play, but about his durability. Tantamon goes on to say, Jaden Daniels will rebound from an injury-plagued 2025 season and reassert himself as the top quarterback of the 2024 draft class. That's possible. He stays healthy, performs while throwing and running the ball, and makes new offensive coordinator David Blau a prime head coaching candidate. Wow. I mean, Mike Tantamon is the fastest guy. He's got all of them in on the commanders. He's all in on your boys. But was this a category of first take, like bold predictions or something? It's definitely a bold prediction. I haven't seen the entire article. I don't know if it's labeled that, but it's definitely a bold prediction. He is. But again, like you said, coming into this year, who would have thought that with the whole new coaching staff, with Drake May in year two, adding a bunch of new guys, that the Patriots were going to be AFC champs. Right, nobody. And go to the Super Bowl. But I assume, and I don't follow them well, But I assume they were better defensively, for example, than we were. Oh, yeah. Like a year ago. Probably. Oh, yeah. Like we're so bad. But they added a bunch of new guys on that roster. They weren't the only team. Jacksonville didn't win Super Bowl, but Jacksonville had a huge turnaround. The Bears had a huge turnaround. I expect us to win more. I don't expect us to get to 12, 13 wins and go to the Super Bowl. That was Tannenbaum's MVP prediction. He predicts that Jaden will be the MVP in 2026. I love that. If he's the MVP, they're going to win double-digit games, probably 13 or 14, and they're going to go pretty far. You know what else gets me horned up about next year? Maybe Valdez can pull the audio of this. David Blau, I know he was asked by somebody about Terry McLaurin's role in the offense, and his quote was, we need to find a way to get him 10 targets per game. Which, I mean, that's music to Terry McLaurin's ears if he's featured the way he should be and gets as many targets as he should get in a full season. Like, if he gets targeted 10 or more times per game, he's going to have a ridiculous year. This is, by the way, I was listening to you. But they're also going to add to that position. Oh, they have to. Absolutely. A couple things on that. So, first of all, did you all see the viral photo of Terry and Buddy Baker? I did, yeah. So they were having lunch together? They were breaking bread together. Breaking bread together, probably because I think the way the contract is constructed, many think this will be Terry's last year here. Okay. Because, you know, the way the money is structured, he's probably going to want more. They're probably not going to be able to pay him what he's contractually obligated to. Who knows? They'll probably let him go. Who knows? So it's kind of sad because I'd like to see Terry have a long, That would be sad. Darryl Green-like career here. But we have to brace ourselves for the idea. Oh, are we heading to a Terry McLaurin divorce with the commanders? That's what I'm saying. This was probably his last year. Unless, now, if they feature him ten times a game, and he comes up big, then they might decide, okay, we can keep paying him at a very high level. Extend you for a couple more years. Yeah, figure it out. But this could, I think we have to, as Skins fans, we have to just kind of assume, probably this is the last we'll see of Terry here in D.C. Yeah, because they've got the potential out after this year. Yeah, and he's going to want to get more money. He's got a short career, so you're going to want to maximize it. It's kind of sad, but I do like Terry. I wonder if they're having a bad year if he's trade me before the deadline. That also, I guess, could happen. I doubt that would happen. Hey, back to Tannenbaum, who's predicting this Super Bowl run. I just went and looked at what he picked for 2025. So he had the Ravens over the Lions in the Super Bowl. All right. Neither made the playoffs. Aiden Hutchinson is a defensive player of the year with 18 sacks. Now he was coming off injury. He had Herbert as his MVP. But he did have, he's in the tank for Jaden Daniels because there was a category of questions. I guess this is what happens every year at this time. ESPN asks their panel of experts, who do you have in next year's Super Bowl? Who do you think is going to win the MVP? and then name one team coach or player who will break out in 2025, and his was Jaden Daniels. He just felt Jaden Daniels, he said, with the full offseason, he'll vault into superstar status. That's after the rookie season. So he's a Daniels mark. Good. I don't think it's outrageous. I believe he could have a big year if he stays healthy. I think he's more likely to be an MVP candidate than us to go to the Super Bowl. Yeah, look, Seattle's going to be a favorite. it. The Rams are still going to be there. You're going to go with the top teams from this past year, but the Bears are going to be tough. The Lions will still be there. We'll see what happens with the Eagles. Teams come out of nowhere every year. This year, there was at least three teams off the top of my head with New England, Jacksonville, Chicago that completely turned it around. Kind of like Carolina, too, even though they didn't have a great record. No one's asking for it, but I'm going to give you my blink. Already early season prediction. In terms of what? Hold on. Right in front. I'm going to give it to you fast. I'm going to give it to you fast. A quick wreck. You don't have to all do it. I'm just going to give it to you fast. All right. Okay. Yep. Okay. We're just going to do out of conference home and then out of conference home. And we don't know the dates yet. No. All right. Seattle, loser. Rams, loser. Texans, winner. Colts, winner. Bengals, loser. Where is that game? Home. Falcons. Hold on. Where's the Texans game? Those are all home. Okay. Okay. Falcons, winner. Okay. We'll go Vikings winner. Niners. I mean, it depends on their health, but I'll say loser. All right. Jackson's a winner. Every time, I don't care. They're fraud. Arizona winner. 13-4, by the way. Tennessee winner. Okay. So what does that have you out of conference? I think you're seven. You're now seven and four. Okay. And now we're going to go. Now division. Now division. Good start. So I'll just say, I'll say split with Dallas. Hold on. That's one win, one loss. Eight and five. I'll say split with the Giants. Nine and six. And I'll say 0-2 with the Eagles. Nine and eight. That's what I have us. That's fair? That's what I have us. I mean, done. That's fair? I don't think I'll waiver off that much. Good. Nine and eight. I don't even know who they drafted or who they signed. Put it in the books. Anybody. No, that's not in the books yet. That's not official. That's a lot. No, I want that as unofficial. I want that in. I want that in. I want to be the first one on it. I think that's reasonable. If Jaden Daniels plays... If Jaden Daniels plays... Don't say Spears. They should be far better. By the way, 9-8 doesn't get you into the playoffs. Yeah, I'm not saying that we are... I mean, it could. It just didn't this year. I think it would dicey for the playoffs. Had Jaden Daniels played the full season this year? They probably would have been 9-8 or better. Maybe. We had terrible defense. Worst defense in the history of professional football. They're going to improve the defense. I think. They have to. You can't get worse. Can they get worse? Well, you know what I mean. I mean, they're going to add players. They're going to get younger and faster, and they're going to get better. This season, I think, did a number on Eric's psyche. You don't like that? I think that's a very reasonable thing. At the start of the season, I thought you were very high on the team and everything. Last year. Yeah, this past year. Yeah. That one was. And now it's just you'll never let yourself. No, that's not true at all. I don't think you're ever going to let yourself buy in anymore. We've had this cycle with EB and the Commanders slash Redskins for 30 years. I get excited. I get excited. If they go 11-6, win the division, win a couple games in the playoffs, he'll be right back on that track. We have an ass defense until proven otherwise. One of the worst in professional football. No one's worse in professional football than we are. Do you know how many times we hit rock bottom, and then the interest would fire right back up because during the Snyder area, it would be a coach. Like, oh, I'm back. If you went to Dan Quinn right now and you said, and this would have to be in true serum and after 17 beers, and you said, I guarantee you 9-8 next year right now, would you take it? I predict he would take it. I predict he would take it because it would keep his job. I think he's got more bravado except just nine wins. I think he would take it. I don't know. It's practically the same team that went to the NFC championship two years ago. I think there's been a lot of turnover. It should be better. There'll be even more. I think you can talk yourself into, you know what, we're a better team. We just got bit by the injury bug last year. That gave us five more wins. We're a playoff team. Two years ago, we played Mike Maher, quarterback, about six times. Hey, Mike Maher can spin it. Correct. I was throwing it with you on the last break. They got every break. They went 94% on fourth down. We played Ben DiNucci. I mean, come on. Mike Maher and Drew Brees. Jaden was remarkable. Jaden was remarkable. And I think he's going to be awesome again. I hope so. I hope my tandem bob is right. I'm so high on Jaden. I'm high on him. Being awesome is better than 9 and 8. He can't do it all by himself. They need double-digit wins. They need to bounce back to double digits. 10 or more. It's a weird needle you're threading where Jaden is awesome and can play at an MVP caliber level. He doesn't expect him to play all games. That's why. He expects Jayden to miss games. I would not bet my life that he's going to play 15 or more games. You're not EB Tannenbaum. He thinks he's going to play all 17. I know, I know, I know. I am 100% convinced of his ability. I am not 100% convinced of his availability. If somebody could peek in the future and told you, Jayden's only going to play 12 games next year, You wouldn't be shocked. I would also lower my weight. I think you're a lot to say yes to this. You did the Dan Quinn bit. If somebody walked up to you right now and said, I guarantee you, Jaden Daniels starts 14 games next season, would you take it? Starts or finishes. Yes. Okay, starts and finishes. Yes. You only missed three. You have to take that deal. You only missed three. I think I have to take it. I think I have to take it, but I'm not super thrilled with it, But it's decent. Hopefully he misses games against the numbers. The low-hanging fruit, that would be decent. That would be decent. I would take 14 like that. Or you have missed games against the silly teams. Like the Lakers the other day. The Lakers played Spurs. Not one of their starters played in the game. When James is at full strength, there's not one team that's an automatic L. You talk about the integrity of the game. All five of their starters were out. Right. Right. But if he misses five or more games, I don't think he's going to have. That's real trouble. It's real trouble. And then all these games, they're all up for now. I'm saying going forward, there's going to be a lot of people that are going to be out. In terms of the future. It'll be interesting. Yeah. If he misses half the year because of injuries, fans are going to be like, you know what? He was great for a year, but he's already three. It depends. If he's good and knows that he's healthy, because Burrow's been through a lot. He has been, yeah. So it makes it say it's worth riding it out. He has to play well when he's available, and I think he will. I think he's not going to miss 12 games. I hope not. Or 10 games. No, no, no. I think he's going to miss games, but not that many. If that's the case. All right, when we come back, we'll tell you why we're living in the septic-filled capital of the United States. We'll do that next. Have you guys been keeping up with the sewage issues that are happening with the Potomac River? I don't know. I mean, I kind of just glance at it. It sounds like pretty catastrophic. What is going on? Is this going into our tap water somehow? I know this, but some of the snow looks downright brown at this point. So what's going on in the river? Well, a month ago, a sewer line collapsed along the Clara Barton Parkway, spilling hundreds of millions of gallons of sewage water into the river. Hundreds of millions of gallons. That means poop. Yeah. So that happened about a month ago. So just this past Sunday On Super Bowl Sunday I guess a lot of people Were obviously used in the bathroom On Super Bowl Sunday Especially at halftime That it made the sewage issues Plaguing the Potomac River even worse D.C. Waters said There was a quote High flow period Unquote Late Sunday night And in that time Non-disposable wipes That were flushed Clogged the system While multiple pumps Were turned off for maintenance causing a significant overflow. The utility estimates several hundreds of thousands of gallons of sewage overflowed. What's going on? Well, I know this. The little that I know about the sewage system from what I've read is that most of the pipes are decades old. Yeah. And they need to replace it with something that we don't necessarily think of, and it's something that the government eventually has to spend on, but that these pipes bursting is inevitable because they've got 70-year-old pipes down there. And experts say the spill is catastrophic and has contaminated the river with more than 10,000 times the safe limit for E. coli. All right, so hold on. 10,000 times. So what is it? So what do you do? What's the salt? Like when you have sewage dumps or whatever, what do they do to fix the water? I don't know what they could do. Is this a master chemical you could put in there? You're just polluting the river. There's got to be something you can put in there to lower the toxicity. I don't think it's affecting the D.C. residents' water, though. Right. But then nature, whatever. I guess it just spills out in the ocean with all the oil and everything. Eventually. This couldn't be more than that. The company says it's working on an environmental restoration plan, but it isn't finished yet. Working on a plan. Working on a plan that's, as of yet, unfinished. well you probably just don't want to go you know you're probably not going to do it anyway go on a boat in the Potomac and take a sip of the water well I mean only an insane person would do such a thing why are people flushing non-flushable wipes that's because they seem like they can be flushed like the little wet wipes can people read you read the packaging it either says flushable or non-flushable They don't read that. They don't care. They don't read the packaging, but they're just going to throw whatever they want down their toilet? A lot of people do that. They're just ignorant people. I would agree with that. Well, actually, it's negligence that they're shutting down the system at halftime of a Super Bowl, one of the biggest duty times of the year. That's a very good point. I'd say that, and then two hours or an hour after Thanksgiving. By the way, I don't think this was in every stop in Costa Rica, but there were some of, like, we rented three different Airbnbs because we were there for a week. And at least one of them, there was a sign in the bathroom that you can't flush through used toilet paper. Where was that? Costa Rica. So you were just going to put it in a trash can? Trash can, bag it up, and put it out in the trash outside. Dude, that happened to my daughter when she was in Greece. I was like, what? When Meg was in Greece last summer, she was there for, like, four days. Yeah. She was kind of traumatized by the end of it because they didn't want you flushing. Right. You just wipe in and put in your, you know, like in a trash. Literally, by the end of the trip, she couldn't wait to get out of there. I'm sure. She was just traumatized by it. She's used to it. And Greece is one of the countries that has been just overwhelmed by tourism. So maybe their system just can't handle the amount of people. It's like doing road construction at 5 p.m. on a Friday. Massive tilt. I mean, it's the same thing. Water, I mean, sewer maintenance at halftime of a Super Bowl? Yeah, it's poor planning. Somebody was asleep at the week. After everyone's been pummeling wings and seven-layer dip and pizza and nachos. Wings. I still can't imagine the amount of food you had to throw away. How much waste. Do you still have leftovers in the fridge? Oh, no, I tossed that. It's all gone. It's a three-person party. Peek to four. Peek to four. Peek to four. It was a bad day. Oh, so bad. Girls with the stomachs the size of squirrels. Like squirrels. They couldn't even finish one pizza. If you're walking along the river, how bad? It must smell. It's got to be the biggest duty smell in the world. It's got to be. I told EB during the break that I followed his lead with intermittent fasting because I wanted to lose some weight before my kid's wedding. You're already seeing results. I'm down a few pounds. Shedding for the wedding? Yeah, a little bit. How long are you going? It's hard. When did you eat dinner last night? I was done at 645. Okay, and you're not going to eat until when? 11 a.m. 11? All right. It's difficult. That's good. I do it on occasion, but the hard part for me is the, I eat dinner so late. Yeah. Yeah, you got to, well, that's fine. Then you just got to go to like two. Yeah. It's fine. You want to eat late dinner. Eating early dinner is perfect. I'm already there. The biggest is less calories. Yeah. It's a gimmick to have you eat less calories. That, and it's horrific to do what he was doing, which I was doing, was grazing before you go to bed. Yeah. I don't care what you do. When you eat right before you go to bed, cheeses. Yeah, it just sits there. And two beers. He's now not doing his two beers. That definitely pains me. That's probably the biggest sacrifice. That also knock off 10 pounds right off the bat. Yeah. So there will be an upshoot, but, dude, you got this. I'm going to be here with Chris Farley. It's March. I'm going to be here with Chris Farley. It's March 8th or 9th. It's when you have less than a month to go. Less than a month, yeah. Will you continue after? I think so. As long as I'm an easy way. He'll be back to those beers. I do love beers. Have your beer at 4.30. It's not a terrible idea. Or you're just going to have to start eating at like 1 p.m. so that you can factor in the cabin. I'm going to take you under my wing. From 4 to 6 is your drinking window. That's my beer time? After 6, zippy. Just tell yourself. After 6, can't drink? All right. But I've been... I miss them, but it's been okay. He also drinks heavy beers versus like start drinking your surf sides. 100 calories. That's a good point. I could do that. You could cheat. Throw a surf side or two in there. I'll say this. I definitely feel healthier cutting down my drinking by like 97%. Right. Yeah. You just feel better in the mornings. You feel better all day. You know what my liver's doing? Spanking me. Yeah. Props. Right. At least in the short term. I was with a guy last night who I haven't seen in a while. He lives in Arizona. Yeah. Well, part-time in Arizona, part-time in Canada. Okay. All right. But in the winter months, he lives in Arizona. That's hashtag rich. I mean, they do well. Not necessarily. But his wife's from Canada, so he wanted to buy a house. Got it. Anyway, so he's lost 90 pounds. Wow. I couldn't, I didn't even recognize him when I saw him. 90 LBs is a lot. And I said, how are you doing? He goes, well, I'm eating better, but I'm walking 40 miles. Hold on. Yeah, 40 miles a week. That's a lot. Wow. That's a lot. On Saturdays, he gets up at 4 a.m., he walks 15 miles on Saturdays. He's doing five pounds a day. Wow, it's mostly Saturdays. Yeah. It's six a day is doable. Yeah, it's mostly Saturdays, and it's probably Sundays. That's a real grind. He's lost 80, I'm sorry, 90 pounds. That's great. I know. Good for him. Best way to do it, walking. Walka, walka, walka. It's a lot of steps. Hey, Mike Marr, that can be your spirit animal right there. You're going to be boots on the ground before you know it. You're in a bit of a crunch because you've got the wedding's helmet far away. It's like a month away. A little less than a month away. You're in a little bit of a crunch here. I'll be fine. I'll be 10 pounds in a month. It's a lot. It's asking a lot. Eight or 10. But I think you can do it. Yeah. If you add a little bit of weightlifting. I'm starting to do that too. That'll also help. A little I not going crazy Not saying it be Lou Ferrigno I like the old reference You could have done Lou Ferrigno Chris Hemsworth Who was the other Franco Colombo. Wasn't he an old school boy? Yeah, he was. What's the guy from Reacher? What's his name? I don't know. Allen. I don't know. Give me like an influencer that's all jacked or something. Give me some current jacked influencer. I don't need to be jacked. I see deals. Just call him Reacher. If you just trim it up a little bit. Yeah, if you push some weight, I think it will also help you. I'm working on things. I got some things cooking. And if you really want to do it, you do that 3-12-30 thing or whatever. I've done that a few times, too. That also 100% helps. A couple days ago. Get in that zone, too. I'll be honest. It hurts the legs a little bit. It does? I mean, 12% incline is no joke. I got used to it. Just don't hold. I haven't been holding. It's hard not to hold. It's hard not to hold. It lessens the impact if you hold on the ball. I always hold. I'm so bored when I do it. That's the reason why I would do it every day. That's where you're going to watch your TV shows. I have TV. I have everything. Hey, EB. I get bored out of my freaking mind. Sadly, I'm not holding. I'm not holding. I mean, it's the easiest thing of all time. Yeah. All right. When we come back, coming up at 920, we will do EB's entertainment page. Also, don't forget, it is an open line Thursday. 800-636-1067 is the number. You can call us throughout the show here on The Junks. We're celebrating 30 years of The Junks brought to you by Main Street Bank. Cheer local, bank local. Main Street Bank is a business-focused community bank proudly serving the DMV since 2004. Visit mstreetbank.com to learn how to put their team in your office. Main Street Bank member FDIC, Equal Housing Opportunity Lender. We'll do Evie's entertainment page coming up in just about 20 minutes. So prepare to be entertained a bit later in the hour. We should be entertained every minute. That's true, but this is specific about the entertainment industry. I kind of own that, to be honest with you. I'm a little bit more entertaining. You're a good reader. Yeah, yeah, I pick the right stories. Or Valdez picks the right stories. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He does. He's collaborative. He does. He's collaborative. Yeah. But then sometimes I filter. Do you know your Ricky already? No. He doesn't look at it until the... I think I know your Ricky. I mean, I know James Van Der Beek died. You gotta be the Ricky. Millennials everywhere are heartbroken. Heartbroken. Dawson's Creek. Varsity Blues. Varsity Blues. Somebody asked me what I knew about Dawson's Creek, and I told him nothing. Other than the fact that James Van Der Beek was the star. I couldn't tell you anything else about Dawson's Creek. I couldn't either. I don't know what state it's in. I don't know any of the other characters. It was filmed in Wilmington, North Carolina, but I'm not sure if it's set in Wilmington. Again, I don't know. Some people would call it a crick. Crick. Yeah, Cowboy Talbot. We learned that. He would definitely call it a crick. So I heard this audio yesterday. I saw the video. Bill Simmons had Nick Wright. Nick Wright is on First Things First. He's on Fox TV a lot. and Bill Simmons has podcasts, YouTube, everybody knows who Bill Simmons is. Unbelievable success. He just started doing blogs at the sports guy. It blew up and is probably worth a couple hundred million dollars at this point. Yeah, he's worth so much money. But they were talking about the All-Star Game. Last week we talked about the Pro Bowl and how... Pro Bowl's a joke. Is it even possible to fix it? It's not even a Pro Bowl. But the NBA All-Star Game is not far behind. I mean, you would have games that were like 190 to 180. The guys, you know, in the game. Now they do the round robin. What's the format now? This year there's going to be a world team and two U.S. teams. Right. So they're trying to fix it because, much like the Pro Bowl became a joke in the NFL, in the NBA it became like an alley-oop fest, no defense. And Nick Wright had an idea, which we could talk about it afterwards, but I definitely think it would attract eyeballs. How would you fix the game on Sunday? Is it fixable? Because I don't think it is. It's fixable in four years if your guy Con Knipple continues on this trajectory. And we just have to say you know what? PC headlines be damned. I know where you're going. White guys versus black guys. Luka, Joker, Flag, Reeves, Knipple against Wimby whomever. I'm telling you right now guys would play f***ing hard like that there would be a real edge to the game we get a lot of talking points going and we are getting close to a place where it'd be like oh that'd be a good game like there hasn't been a moment in the NBA in the last 50 years where if that ended up just by chance being the game it would be you could see either team winning. But right now, Cooper Flagg and Con Caniple and Austin Reed doing a lot of work. But they also get all the Eastern Europeans. You get Luka, you get Joker, you have real talent. That's something. In the meantime, I don't know what the hell you do. They're framing it basically as a joke. Yeah, they're laughing about it. He knows it's not going to happen. Of course. But if you had that game, there would be an immense amount of eyeballs to the game. There would be. If they called it that, if they called it blacks versus whites. If they just called it the NBA All-Star Game, it just happened to be blacks versus whites. This is a weird question. In case they watch it. All the white guys are on this side. All the black guys are on this side. I don't know. How did this happen? I don't think there's any question people would be intrigued. And I would count myself as one of them. But I have to say, honestly, and I'm not saying this to be politically correct, I don't even like being politically correct. I don't like thinking of the world that way. I don't think we should think of people as black. Of course you shouldn't. But I try not to. I honestly try to live my life. Of course, I fail all the time. I like racial humor. So there's some hypocritical part to that. But I just don't think we should think of the world that way. I think it only further divides us. And I hate that that might actually be the politically correct thing to say. That's honestly what I believe. But the intrigue level, it's open line Thursday. You can call us at 1-800-636-1067. It'd be through the roof. Look, I'll pull back the curtain. When I did my boxing match 20 years ago at this point, when you guys didn't know, and then behind the scenes I started training and I talked to Jimmy Lang's dad, who was the manager and was organizing the show at the Patriot Center, and CK and Brett knew. So the three of us knew and we were trying to figure out what to do. He didn't have an opponent. I said, I wanted to fight a black guy. Because it adds intrigue. It just does. They couldn't find one? Well, look, Rocky. Do you think Rocky would have been as good? I know that Drago was a good fight. His fourth fight against, you know, he took on Rushdown. I don't know, but Apollo. But Rocky, but Apollo. No. So, three days before the announcement, they still didn't have my opponent. And I told them, I was like, you don't give me my opponent. We're going to announce it on Monday. You guys didn't know this. I was like, I plan to announce this on Monday. the fight's in three and a half weeks. You've got to give me my opponent. We left the conference room, and I said, you know what, CK, you just deal with it. You figure out the opponent. But CK got so nervous because the guy that they were going to have me fight that was black had 26 pro fights. Yeah, you couldn't do that. So I said, I'll fight the white guy. He had 10 pro fights. You'd be a vegetable. You wouldn't even sit in that seat right now. They're like, we've got this guy from North Carolina. He had a horrible record. He was like 6-20 or something like that. He's been in the ring. He's been 26 times. Over 30 times. Yeah, he would have killed that. Listen, I think it would be humorous, and I would get a kick out of it like anybody else. But we cannot have this, because all it does is people use this to divide us. I hate that. And we're not going to have it. I hate trying to find things by, like, I've got to hire a black guy. I've got to hire a woman. I've got to hire a gay person. I've got to hire a gay person. Okay, this is basketball. By the way, I would still put my money on the black guys. JP, you understand that it is entertaining and it's funny, but people wouldn't view it as that. They would actually view it as, you know. There's so many protesters. They would view it like a race war. Yes, exactly. It would be a race war. Yes. And it would just be further used to divide us. So I'm 100% agree. But you're not going to have a race war to have interest in the NBA All-Star game. Right. But it is just basketball. It would be, look, right now, the MVP of the league is Canadian. He's going to play for the world team. Okay? Because it's a little different. So Shea would go to Team Black. Of course. Wemby, who's on the world team, would go to Team Black. Well, as you said, Wemby's mom was white. Oh, really? So he would choose. The wife is going to fight for Wemby. I'm pretty sure. You could check on this. Really? Mike Mark. No, can't play in the game. Mike Marr, check on that. That's a great idea. I think Wemby's mom is white. Wemby's dad's black. If you're a spermix a lot, you've got to be a pureblood. You've got to be a pureblood. Yeah, I like that rule. Wemby, you've got to be a spectator. Go sit over there. But he's saying wait for four years to make sure the young white guys get better. Right. Because there aren't many good white American players. It's Cooper Flagg and Con Caniple. And Austin Reeves. They don't have to be from the U.S. Well, yeah, but Luka, I mean, Jokic will be like 35 in four years. Five. He's not going to be the same player. But if you just did it even right now, though, you'd have a game. Luka, Jokic, Markkinen, Denny. You'd have a game, but the black team would be deeper and more talented. Because you're throwing in Denny now. The pool is a lot smaller. Yeah, the pool is a lot smaller. It's just a lot smaller. Yeah. The brothers roster would be much deeper and better. It would be. What's interesting is KD was responding to some of the criticism and how they've tweaked the All-Star game to make it this world versus these two U.S. teams. Well, he said, you know, the Europeans are kind of getting a pass on ruining the All-Star game. I will tell you, like, Jokic doesn't play at all. Like, he doesn't care. I mean, almost all of them don't care, but they're not getting the shrapnel like Jokic and Luka. I mean, Luka takes half-court shots in those games on the regular, and they all kind of do. I mean, is anybody in here going to watch the Team Stars versus Team World, whatever they call them, Stars and Stripes? You know what's interesting? I'm going to put it on for a little bit. They just had, I think it was the 30th anniversary when Magic came back. Remember, it was shortly after he got diagnosed with the HIV or whatever. And he actually came back, I don't know if you guys remember, won MVP. He had like 30-plus in that game. And it wasn't like they were playing zero defense. And they actually went through a time where KG has the whole thing he did about how, I think it was LeBron actually ruined it. He blames it on LeBron. But in that game with Magic, Jordan goes down and he pounds the floor, and it's like one-on-one. And then Magic went one-on-one. And then next guy, I can't remember, Isaiah maybe, pounds the floor, and he's playing defense. Guys used to go out, especially in the fourth quarter. They were going hard at each other. And it was so different than today. Today it is awful. It's awful. And supposedly KG tells the story that I can't remember who it was. Was it MJ maybe when he was with the Wizards? I don't know. Somebody challenged LeBron. Maybe it was Kobe. Somebody challenged LeBron, slapped the floor, and LeBron passed it. LeBron didn't want to give him that one-on-one moment. Now let me just say a little back story. The Celtics guys hated LeBron. and they'll do everything. Paul Pierce will take shots at him. KG takes shots at him. There's a history there between those guys in particular and LeBron. I was surprised to read Tiger kind of take a shot at LeBron. Did you see that? I did see that. I did see that. He was recently saying, like, it's not even close. LeBron's not even in MJ's category. He's the best by far. And he said LeBron's not even in his top ten. They're clear without the ones. That was unusual. You guys, no chance you caught it, but Bad Bunny took a shot at LeBron. He said, Barea campeon premarital day of LeBron. Yeah, I didn't. But J.J. Barea. I didn't understand what you were saying. Am I going to understand that? It was a little quickie. It was a little shot. He's like, we got Barea championed before LeBron. I love the Bad Bunny. Which, by the way, wasn't hollow. J.J. Barea was a huge contributor in that Dallas Mavericks. fine, but you would never mention J.J. Barea. It was a joke. It's a dig. But that was the whole problem. It's great that he's a proud Puerto Rican, and that's great. Great culture. I couldn't access the performance. That's your opinion. No, it's not my opinion. It's my fact. It's my fact, and it's a lot of people's fact. It's a valid opinion and take, but a lot of people still enjoyed it, even though they didn't like the language. I love the language. I didn't understand it. They don't understand it. They still like the vibe, the dancing, the music. Yeah, it was fine. Instruments. It was fine. If you tell me it was entertaining, I'll go with it. I just wanted to. I thought it was awful. I'm sure you did. Yeah. To me, it was the worst I've ever seen, but that's because I couldn't access it. It's not that he's untalented. But, Case, you're right. When Wright and Simmons were talking about it, he's laughing as he's talking about it. I mean, they know it's a joke. He knows it's never going to happen. Right. And, yeah, he's just hot-taking it. Unless the ratings really tanked for this year's All-Star Game, And then maybe Adam Silver would take it under consideration. All right. Just remind me to watch Team Stars against the World Sunday. I'll do that. I'm going to remind you to watch the celebrity game tonight. Oh, I saw the list of celebrities. I mean, there's a few names that I recognize. Like, I think Jason Williams is playing. Jason Williams is playing. Speaking of, he's the one guy I've actually enjoyed. I didn't recognize 80% of the names because I'm old. And these are probably 20-year-olds. He's going to remind me tonight to watch Lid because Anthony King is in top three. I want to see that continue. That's good, because I wouldn't be able to remind you, because I don't know that it's happening. I know. I understand. Do you know how many viewers they got last week? 23,000. And that was awesome. No one watched. No one watched. In the country. They were in Saudi Arabia. It was different times or whatever, but it was FS1. It was FS1, but it's Saudi Arabia. 22,000. They just don't. They're not trapped in the audience last year. Yeah, I think it was. Those numbers are up? Yeah. I think it was 19 last year. Good thing that was at the PIF fund. It's basically endless supply of money. It is. It's a good thing. They're limiting. Oh, they're pulling a lot of money back. So it's not unlimited. They're spreading it out. They're spreading it out. So like the prize pools are a lot different. Oh, they're shrinking? Oh, that's not good. They lost Brooks Koepka. I don't think the prize pools are shrinking. They're just not giving the winners as much as they did last year. Okay. They're spreading it out more. The winners aren't getting $4 million a win. What are they getting now? I think they are getting $4 million. I think they're getting $4 million. Well, that's what they got last year. Yeah. But last year, didn't the overall winner get $18 million? Oh, for the whole year? Yeah. Oh, I don't know that. I don't know that. I thought it was $18 million. Let's go to Will in Greenbelt. Will, what's up? Hey, how are you doing? Hey, good. How are you? Good, good. I was just listening to the conversation, and it was really mystifying to me. I heard, I think it was JB say, it's just, you know, if you have a black guy against a white guy, it just makes it more intriguing. It does. And I'm sitting here, and I cannot imagine why. To me, you know, it's just like saying, hey, if you have a guy in a red shirt and another guy is in a green shirt, that just makes it more intriguing. Well, for some people it does. I mean, I think it's, you'd be a denial of the space. The question is why. I know it does. Yeah. And as I was sitting here on hold, you know, the way I grew up, my pops was military. So I traveled all over the world, went to schools, all different kinds of people, and I just absolutely do not see the world that way. That's great, but have you ever heard of this phrase? And everybody has. The great white hope. Sure. Okay. Okay, what? I mean, so what? Listen, I think I agree with you sort of in principle. I don't like to think of the world that way. I do, too. And I don't like. Well, beyond principle, but tell me why you think it would be otherwise. I think that some people would cling to that. Some people would say, hey, let's root for the white guys. They're the underdogs here. Because the white guys are the underdogs? I think. I think so. Because in that case, they're really going to have the hand. Let's just stick with basketball. Have you ever heard the story that Larry Bird, white guy, apparently would get offended when other white guys guarded him in the NBA? And he would tell them, I can't believe you have a white guy guarding me. You ever heard that story? It's just history. It doesn't make it right. I'm not saying it's right. It just is. It's absurd. People think all kinds of absurd things. Listen, I appreciate the call, Will. I do appreciate the call. And I agree with the overall sentiment. I don't think I don't like to view the world that way We all have our Fieses and ways we see the world But we shouldn't clarify the world that way So I'm against it But I do think it would be intriguing It's not going to happen Appreciate the call we got to run Seriously It's not going to happen Chill out It is an open line Thursday You can call us throughout the show We're just trying to bring people together That's all we're trying to do here Okay. Okay, here on the jump. Just trying to have fun, and then so we can go home and, you know, I don't know. I don't know. Not eat. Go, not eat. I guess not eat. Go, no. 800-636-1067 is the number. We'll do EB's entertainment page next. All right, let's get into EB's entertainment page. And, of course, it's sponsored. I've got the sponsorship right here, EB, if you need to read it off my sheets. Thank you, Rick. You're welcome. Entertainment page, of course, driven by BMW Fairfax. DC's only BMW Center of Excellence Award winner for the ultimate buying experience On your ultimate driving machine Get over to BMW Fairfax Ask for Miriam, she's the general manager Mention me Of course you can check out their entire selection Of certified pre-owned brand new vehicles Right there on their website BMWFairfax.com I do that all the time I just go to the website and see What do they got? What new do they have over there? What use do they have over there? Check out the newbies I've got to get rid of two cars, replace them, and get one. I'm loathing doing it. I just don't want to deal with it. I understand. But you're going to have to. RPP, rich people problems. I hate when you say things like that. It's not a rich person's problem. It's a person that has a lot of kids. Like a fifth car. They're old. They're all older cars. They're poopy cars. Poop-a-doop. I'm actually downgrading. I'm going from four cars to three cars, or whatever I'm doing. But, yeah. I understand. You have some testiness to start off the app. I hate when he tries to say that. He says, you know, again, trying to divide us. And he's richer than me. He's definitely richer than me. Oh, boy, now you touched the nerve. I used to be pretty rich for me, relatively. Yeah, yeah, sure. And now I'm pretty brokey. I would love to see that graph. You're a brocopotamus? I mean, just in terms of what I have available. I know, I know. The cash available. My cash availability is not great. I know, not great. Not great. What do you see, that flow of cash? Flow of cash. More outflow than inflow. It's a wild, no, yeah. A big chunk. Cakes was hoping there'd be some cash flow last night at the poker tournament, but it didn't happen. It didn't work out well. It didn't happen. I mean, I didn't even make the first break. All in, Ace King lost to Jack 10 off. I mean, guy made a little bit of a loose call with Jack 10. It was a loose call. A little bit. All I wanted was everybody to fold. That was why I shoved my whole sack in. I knew I had the better hand. Well, but you saw the guy had a big stack? I mean, you... I knew he had a big stack, but it was go time with my stack. Your hand was good enough anyway to go time. Yeah, he was down chips. It was go time. He just said, have it. He got it in with what he thought was a decent hand. No, he didn't think it was a decent hand. He thought he had two live cards. He had two live cards, and he hit... He had enough chips that he could withstand it. He hit two of them. Not one, he hit two of them. To ramboozle me. But it happens. It's all good. What time? What time did I get eliminated? Yeah, what time of the day? I started the tournament at 2 p.m., and I was done by 425. You should have to. Or the teeth of traffic. And I immediately went out into the teeth of traffic. The teeth of traffic. Did you run that? We're not going to go into the hand with our folks here, but did you run that hand by Mikey? Like, can he put it in his brain? I did, and he said it wasn't as wacky as you think it is. That's exactly what I've been saying. Yeah. And, in fact, you should have Mikey put it in a little tournament sim thing for you to show you. Yeah. He's probably made the correct decision. Is that a 60-40? It's a 60-40, yeah. I had a 60% chance to win. When you consider stack sizes and everything, where it puts you if you win. I mean, I wouldn't have called it, but I understand why some people would. You might have if you had that big a stack size. Correct. I don't know. I'm kind of. It wound up working out. I'm tight. It worked out. Yeah. I don't think I'm calling it with Jack Dan. Yeah, but if you get a roll that is gratis, I'm going to lose. Oh, no. He bought in. He bought into the tournament. No, I understand. You. Oh, yeah, for me, it's no big deal. No, it's just a time investment. That's invaluable. And I wanted to build a stack and get the day two. That's my point, though. When you have the gratis roll, you decide to go for it a little early. As soon as I got eliminated, you've got nothing really to lose. I don't think you went for it early. As soon as I got eliminated, somebody else at the table was like, well, why don't you just fire another bullet? And I said, I'm too jaded. I get a free bullet. I'm not dipping into my pocket. Right. I'm just being honest. I'm with you. And you just walk to your car. And I, whoop-a-doop-a-doop, out on the beltway. I don't think gridlock. An hour and 35 minutes? It's about an hour and ten. That's not bad. I'm in Oxon Hill. I know. It's the other side of the world. The beltway is hell. It's hell. Hell on earth. We've had two kind of terrible cancer deaths amongst sort of famous people, right? We lost Brad Arnold from Three Dorns Down earlier in the week. And then James Van Der Beek, dead from colon cancer at 48. I guess he's most famous for Dawson's Creek. You never watched one second of Dawson's Creek. And Varsity Blues. I've seen it. My daughters love Dawson's Creek. I remember seeing them on commercials, but I never really watched Varsity Blues. I saw Varsity Blues once, and I don't think I saw one episode of Dawson's Creek. Can I say this? Not my era. I'm going to say this without being intentative. I'm trying not to be intentative. This is a theme song? Oh, this is instantly recognizable. This is what, Dawson's Creek? Dawson's Creek, yeah. Great song. Filmed in Wilmington, North Carolina, but it was a fictional town in Massachusetts. Okay. I'm going to say this, and I mean this, I think I mean this pre-cancer, because Vanderbeek came public with his cancer battle a year or two ago. Right. Probably diagnosed a little before that, but who knows. He was, this was all before cancer, okay? He was a handsome fellow, and he didn't maintain the handsomeness. Why? Pre-cancer. Pre-cancer. Pre-cancer. He wasn't that silly is what you're saying? I think he dropped off quite a bit. Believe me, I can feel that. I can relate. I mean, I haven't really been keeping up with his age progression up until he passed. A guy like Mario Lopez? That guy's still handsome. How's he still handsome in his 50s? Well, he's probably getting Botox every day. He's still pretty handsome. Yeah, but I'm just saying, he lost it. It's kind of a weird thing to bust out in the wake of him passing. I thought he looked pretty much the same. I think he lost some hair, though, which can affect you. The hairline moved up from when he was in his 20s. He got long. It looked like his forehead grew. Are you sure that's not part of the effects of him? It could be. I'm saying pre-cancer. Okay. I didn't study. I just saw the video he did that maybe went viral. The video he did, you know, talking for about two and a half minutes, probably a lot of people saw that was being passed around yesterday. Unbelievable. inspirational guy and everything. One of his quotes that he said, and I believe him, he said that getting that cancer was the best thing that ever happened to him. I believe him. I would have to vehemently oppose that viewpoint. Just the way he changed his mindset. Changed his perspective on life. Everything. It makes you absorb and take every moment. Seriously. I will say that if I get any form of cancer, it's the worst thing that has ever happened, not only to me, but to anybody on the planet. That one's got a cancer. His name is wrong. Good one. So I will be the anti-James Van Der Beek. Yes. Don't admit I get cancer. Because I couldn't think that way. He's got six kids. Never going to see him again. I'm not going to be like, this is the greatest thing that has ever happened to me. I've changed my perspective immensely. No, no, no. I'm going to be bitter and demigrable. It's a sad story. That's what I'm going to be. I can't agree with that. So we talked about, this is on a lighter note, the Olympian who, at his medal ceremony or whatever, he took his interview, and he made a plea to his girlfriend. He apologized to the world for cheating on his girlfriend. Ex-girlfriend. Ex-girlfriend, right, because she obviously was unhappy, and that's why that was his last-ditch plea. And I told you, the worst thing he could do was publicize that to the world. That's not going to win her over. And then she has now broken her silence. She said, first of all, his actions were hard to forgive. Yes, obviously. But that she was also unhappy being thrown into the spotlight. Now the whole world knows the drama and the hell that she's been through. Poor decision. Such a poor decision. Awful. Yes, I agree. Guys are stupid. Guys can be stupid. Guys are so dumb. The last thing she wants you to do is tell the world that you cheated on her. Yes. Because then if she takes them back, everybody knows. And then she feels like she didn't stand up for herself. And they may have worked it out, but still, what a dummy. That's got to be extreme narcissism. Extreme narcissism. Where, you know, I'm going to use my platform to celebrate her, and that's going to be so amazing. It's going to win her back. But it actually works out for her that he did admit it on TV because he was bad for her. He was bad for her. He's toxic. Yeah. He's a toxic person. That it was a good thing that he admitted it. For her. For her. It makes her life better. My guess is she did not want to. She's uncomfortable with it now, but overall, when she looks back, it was a good decision. I think ultimately. Yes. She might have taken him back if he won gold. He won bronze. He won bronze. He might have taken him back if you just shut his mouth. And worked it out. And worked it out. Yeah, and worked it out privately. Yes. And, you know, make amends privately. All right. This is right up my alley. Must be a teacher having sex. No. I'm not that far off. That is interesting. That is interesting. No, this is the Kurt Cobain death, which is being reopened, apparently. Questions, team of specialist forensic scientists are saying, this is not news in the sense that it's been rumored for years, but they're really breaking down the death and saying this was not a suicide. this was a homicide and i don't remember the details of it i'd have to remind myself but apparently uh he had 10 times the lethal dose of heroin in his body three times more than what even like a drug addict would take um and that he somehow in the middle of all that used a long shotgun and killed himself i mean this is a lot of like loose ends and things that don't make sense Remember, Courtney Love was always under the umbrella of suspicion. There were documentaries that had been written about this whole deal. And a lot of the pieces didn't make sense. The books being written. What year was this? There were documentaries being written. Well, I think you write a documentary. Documentaries being filmed, if you'd rather me say that. What year was that? It was in the 90s, right? Early 90s? 93, 94? April 5th, 1994 April 94 I don't know if I remember where I was that day but I do remember just being rocked by that one and not with some huge Nirvana band but everybody liked my friends anyway liked Nirvana's music of course I wasn't like some huge Kurt Cobain guy but anyway it would be interesting to see if anything I like the jam better Pearl Jam Pearl Jam? Love Pearl Jam, too. Yeah, I like Pearl Jam. Yeah. Have you seen the viral clip? It happened 30 years ago when Pearl Jam was doing one of their concerts out, you know, one of the million people out there, and Eddie Vedder starts climbing up. Oh, yeah. He's climbing up the stage or whatever to grab his microphone, and he's literally like 30, 40 feet in the air, and he's hanging up there like Alex Honnold, just horsing around. I think I've seen it once. Yeah. And I just can't believe they let him do that. Like all the stage guys or whatever. Rock stars. They do whatever they want. Rock stars hijinks. They do whatever. I mean, Tony could have easily died. Completely could have died. Easily. I'm watching it right now. 1992. Yeah. And I don't know where that was. It was in Seattle. Yeah. I think Seattle. Still don't know the words to yell at better. Even Eddie Vedder doesn't know the words to yell at better. It's a great song. It's a classic. Yeah. I mean, look at it. It's a classic. Psycho. Yeah. Psycho. Crazy. And how do, like, the stage hands or the security guys not run up there? and try to... He's the boss. He's the star. And then last but not least, Valdez, you'll have to help me with this one. You know, we all know that Will Smith has been trying to make a comeback in Hollywood. Yeah, the world's worst AI video that came out about eight months ago. He did an awful rap song. He's showing people in a massive crowd for like one of his alleged gigs, you know, that he's not drawing a massive crowd. Oh, all AI. All the bad signs they're holding up are misspelled. Clearly by AI. It's the worst. Well, they say now there's a sexual harassment lawsuit. It's getting better for him. A former tour violinist adding to the tension between Will and his wife. I guess Jane of Pinkett Smith is still his wife, even though I don't think they've lived together in like five years. Still married? Oh, they didn't officially divorce? I think so. They haven't had a conscious uncoupling or something along those lines? Brian King Joseph, who appeared on America's Got Talent, actually, back in the day, filed a $3 million lawsuit against him, alleging sexual harassment, wrongful termination, and retaliation. I'm trying to say, is this based on a one-on-one kind of incident between him and Will? Yeah. Or just with his production company? Yeah. Wow. The suit charges Joseph discovered unsettling items in his Vegas hotel room during his tour tenure, namely evidence of the sexual threat of violence. Was Will Smith... Handwritten note reading, Brian, I'll be back, just us. Was Will Smith part of the underground that he used to talk about all the time? Secret sexual underground? With Urkel and... I don't know, he used to always talk about some underground. Johnny Morton, like Eddie Murphy. Johnny Morton. Johnny Morton. Allegedly. They're all legend, by the way. Well, dude, listen, I know if you guys following any of the leaks from the Epstein stuff and, like, the Hollywood. No, thankfully no. The Hollywood, like, I mean, there's a lot of. There's a lot of huge names. I know that. Well, there are huge names in that whole world. But, like, the allegations of people, like, the baby eating and that kind of stuff and, like, cannibalism. It's stuff that's mind-blowing. Yeah. I haven't heard that. It's mind-blowing stuff. You're paying attention to that? Oh, yeah. When we come back, does Bishbuck's have a long-lost half-brother that used to play for the Golden State Warriors? We'll explain next here on The Fan. All right, so funny detail in this article from ESPN's Anthony Slater that came out yesterday. Slater. And it details the kind of crumbling relationship between Jonathan Kuminga, who used to play for the Golden State Warriors, who got dealt to the Atlanta Hawks, I guess right before the trade deadline. Yeah, down our boy Mike Bray. So apparently there were details about a December meeting between Kuminga and head coach Steve Kerr that happened in December. And apparently the tensions were building heading into this meeting. Well, there's always been tension, and I know where you're going because I know the story, but there was always tension about his playing time. Kuminga feels like he should be like a starter and getting all these minutes, and he at times has been relegated to the bench, at best a role player. Yeah, so Slater wrote, Kuminga was prepared for the conversation. He knew management wanted to ding him for missing a team-requested event and alert him that someone around him was taking too much food from the family room. Oh. So I guess every team now has my connection. That's your connection. Because if you were Jason Kuminga, you would have gone in and probably, if you saw something that you might have brought to work the next day, you might have stuffed it in your bag or taken a few too many. And I guess that happened with somebody in his inner circle was going into the family room taking too much food, and the Warriors, I guess, took note of it and definitely put it in a little notebook. You're throwing Jason to the bus, but I remember this was 30 years ago, but we are celebrating 30 years. I remember one, John Martin O'Neill bringing Tupperware on the night that we would get free Italian food. This is very true. This is all true. I'm not denying any of that. But Jason has continued that tradition into the year 30 and beyond. He's taking it to another level. Because he goes into, I won't say the name of the place, but a local hotel, and he avails himself of, you know, new to grain bars. Now, we do use their valet service. They use the fruit here and there. And we do pay them. That's true. So that one's kind of on the line. But you know what's ridiculous about the Kaminga story? The Kaminga story is kind of ridiculous. We are customers at that point. Because Kaminga makes $25 million a year, $30 million. Check it out. And he makes a lot of money. Kaminga makes a lot of money. And they were just looking for little things to ding him with, to use your word ding. He also has to, like, know what's going on with, I guess he's probably not in the room when it's happening. They're probably there, like, as he's praying. I've seen those family rooms. I don't know if all of us, but before Wizards games, when we go over to the Caesars Lounge, right before the Caesars Lounge is that little family room. Right. And in fact, at one point, you know, with us getting hooked, thank you, Jim Manstone, I've been in that family room before. Like, okay, so, you know, there's a nice food set up, and somebody's bringing some food home, is what it sounds like that's related to Kuminga, and they got Rick about it. Kuminga's making $23.7 million. I told you, I said $25 million. I knew I was in the ballpark. $24.3 million next year, a club option. Yeah, but that's what it's gotten to beyond petty. Like, I think it's that. I understand. They had a broken relationship, and they're just throwing this in. That's a nothing burger. Yes. That's a nothing burger. But it is a funny detail. Yeah. Maybe like when Lurch would bring his Tupperware container. Yeah. By the way, I wasn't the only one. No, it was U2. I was there. U2, because it was every Monday night. Sure. I can't even remember which spot it was. It doesn't matter. I'm sure they're not around. It was a challenge spot. It was one. Like Carrabba's. Oh, I forgot about Mazzianos. Dude, we had a different sponsor every night. Yeah, yeah. We literally treated like tingly good old days. But I think they definitely came over. Yeah. That was night, right? That's when we were working nights. That was evenings, yeah. Oh, yeah. That would have hurt our increment and past. I wanted to bring the storage bin home. We can't wait for the food. I've been shamed to not bring that storage bin. It's not yours. It's not yours. Yeah. You have no entitlement to it. It's not your property. It's a storage bin at work. With any storage bin. And they come back and want it. Why wouldn't he run it? He took all the pies out. I don't know. He forgot. He just forgot. He just forgot. I said you're guilty of me in leaving here. You might bring it back tomorrow with a bunch of new pies. I like your power of suggestion. Yeah, blueberry and a blackberry. Is the blackberry a good one? I've never had it. I have no idea. Is that a good one? It's pretty good. Is it better than a blueberry? Well, I'm a... Depends on your taste. I'm a Blackberry Mark because my grandma used to make them for my birthday, and she would make the absolute best Blackberry pie. Oh, personal connection. You know what? Oh, yeah. I'll just do the blueberry lemon meringue. He said he was going to make me a lemon meringue. I mean, I'm a sucker for lemon meringue. So good. I went into a Dunkin' Donuts the other day, and I only went potty, and I didn't get a You didn't get one thing? Did you at least get coffee? No. Nothing? I had it. I had to whiz. But I thought, you know what? I felt a little bit guilty because I was using their bathroom. Yeah. Were you in a plaza already? Or like you stopped and parked your car? I was at my dentist. And I was like, I don't think I can drive 35 minutes without going. So I said, I'm just going to walk into the dentist. Okay. And I thought, you know what? I got to look at donuts. But then I fought the urge. Even if you didn't feel like you had to go, you should have pre-peed at the dentist. What do you mean? The dentist likes you to use the public one, and you've got to get a key. It's a whole thing. Oh, that is a nightmare. Whenever I go to get my taxis done, I always have to go to the bathroom. It's in the hallway. It's got a key. It's got a key. It's got a key. It's got a yardstick attached to it. A freaking yardstick. I hate that. Literally. And I hate that. I've seen such a thing. I'm ready to leave the dentist, but I've got to pee. Give me the key. I'll go pee. It's a clean bathroom, though. I mean, I walk in. There's a million magazines. I go up to the woman who's the receptionist. I'm like, I need the key. Walk the shade. I'm in the hallway. It's a very clean bathroom. The fact that you need a key to access the bathroom just means that all these savages can't get in there and sully the bathroom. There's nothing worse than going into a fast food joint and then they've got a lock code because they have so many vagrants. You've got to go ask for the code. that generally that bathroom is going to look like trash. The main Chipotle I go to just started to put that lock on. The Chipotle at all places is a little dicey. You probably shouldn't be doing that. You need easy access to the bathroom. People blow that one up. You don't need a lock on that door. You should have a freaking revolving door into that bathroom. All right, we have to get out of here. We will see you again tomorrow. Don't forget, it's going to be a great Throwback 30 episode today. It's going to be twice as good. He mentioned Finland. They're coming up next.