The Dark Prince Of Belmont County - Bellaire, Ohio

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Far, far Eastern Ohio. By the way, all the way over. Oh, by the other states over there. It's about a Kentucky. Oh boy, Kentucky and West Virginia and all those states. Philadelphia. There are Pittsburgh. Yeah, yeah. Philadelphia is right there. It's an app. The state of Philadelphia. Oh, the lovely state of Philadelphia, the Commonwealth of Philadelphia. An hour and 10 minutes to Pittsburgh, about two hours to Columbus, Ohio, the other direction. And about three hours and 10 minutes to our last Ohio episode, which was Willard, Ohio. That was the lawnmower man. That was when we had special guest Will Forte and with us. Yeah. Which got damn nice guy he is. Good guy. He was worried about who ran over the yard. Yeah, that was so funny. Or who ran over the head, whichever. Yeah, he was what a great guy though. No attitude. No, no sweetheart of a man. Yeah. Right into the crew. What a good guy. Unbelievable. This is in Paltany County, area code 740. It is a small town population, 3927. So yeah, not a lot of people. Median household income here also pretty low. Almost half the national average. That's about 39,972 dollars. So that's low for a household. And then median home cost here also very low though. So that's good. 92,100 bucks. So very low for that. Nickname in this town, Glass City. Yeah. Yeah, people just smoking glass all over the place. Yeah. Lots of drug usage. Wow, little bit of history here. Apparently the French trappers and explorers are the first guy to use. The Europeans to be in this area. Here they came in to look for shit. The founding of Belair was in 1836. Its name Belair is inspired by the Maryland town of the same name. Right. Belair and Belair. Now they made a ton of glass here. They had the discovery of natural gas deposits, put them on the map, and then people would flock to the area. And that's when the glass manufacturing industry was huge here. These glass factories had a lot of jobs obviously. Sure. They had the belt. There was like 15 companies. I'd read them off, but Belmont Glass works, Belair, Window Glass Company, and then like 15 others with Glass and Company in the title. Just a twist. They're making like, a panes of glass? Yeah, they're making glass, manufacturing glass. They also have a bottle company and then another bottle company. So they're making glass. Why not? 1937, huge flood here. The Ohio River floods this joint. The Belair bridge, which is now abandoned and shut down, was used as a location for the silence of the lambs. When they go to that shitty looking bridge and all that, that is this bridge basically. Was she jogging? Why did they do that? Remember exactly what part it was, but I think you see it a few times. Reviews of this town, let's find out because we don't know anything about it. Nothing. Yeah. Here's five stars, and this is perfect because they just got here too. So excellent. Just moved here. Great. Yeah. Former TV news anchor in a major city hated my job and living in a big city. Just picked a small town on the map near my family in Pittsburgh to raise my small children. We love it so far. How much money do they know? I was going to say if you can just be like, I don't have to work or anything. So there. I'll just move. Throw a dart. I've had enough of this. What? Wow. You're lucky. Two young children. You got to go. Young children. They can't be 65. They got to be at least, you know, in their 40s at the most. So. Wow. Doing great. They must have crushed it as an anchor in their big city. Who are you? Yeah, we've done fine, but I can't do that. I want that. Oh. Let's pick a throwing dart at the map. Let's get into Davis, Jack. Jesus Christ. Get some. Let's just get real rich. We need some anchor work. James Petrogall reporting live. We can do it, I think. We got to not swear as the problem. Oh, that's the problem. Yeah, each shit nevermind. They're going to send me to cover some field day in an elementary school. And I'm just going to fuck him down. This is fucking boring, everybody. Boring a shit. Let me tell you. Three stars. I was born and raised in Bel Air. I've raised my two children here also. Bel Air is a town that has lost so much. It used to be a booming business town, due to it being right on the Ohio River, but many businesses have been closed. The residents are some of the most caring people you'll ever meet. We love our high school football. Go big reds. Go big reds. All about this high school football team here. There are a few amazing family-owned restaurants to choose from. You'll never find a better hot dog than the ones that Gullah sells. What? Gullahs sells hot dogs. I don't know. This is the best. Apparently it's the best. They're going to beat Nathan. It's the absolute best. Yeah, it's going to beat it all. So Brett's all of it. I don't know. Midwest does do a hot dog pretty well. Yeah, they'll go. I'm supposed to have too hard. I'm up to try. Put it that way. Two stars. Bel Air is known for its historical places and such, but the town today is very run down and can be dangerous with all of the drugs and crime. Yeah, all the more in class. It's just glass everywhere. What are you going to do? Things to do in this town, the Bel Air Harvest Festival. Mm-hmm. Very exciting. We have a scarecrow contest. Sure. It's cool. There we go. You show off your creativity with a whimsical and competitive scarecrow decorating contest. Whimsical. Whimsical. We have kid-friendly activities. And then, of course, we have the bands, obviously. Oh, boy. Oh, yeah. We have a ton. We have, oh, there's a best dressed pet parade as well, which is always fun. There's square dancing right in the street. Sure. Rocktoberfest. They don't tell you what bands will be there. And then all they tell you is live music and harvest cocktails. They don't tell you what live music is happening here. Which is a disappointment. You know what it is. Yeah, there's also a petting farm. So there's all of that stuff. Petting zoo petting farm. Yeah. And by the way, they're saying all the dry drugs and crime. The crime rate here is like half of the national average. So it's pretty safe. Compared with a lot of places in this region, especially in the West Virginia and places like that. This is a very safe town. That said, let's talk about. So murder. Let's do this. I remember this story. It was wild. We're going to start in 1995. Yeah. Yeah. Let's talk about a married couple, Terry and Marilyn Brooks. Terry's born in 1942, Marilyn in 1943. So they're in their 50s at this point, early 50s. He, Terry, he went to a school in the Mansfield area. And the, and Marilyn ended up moving from two north central Ohio from Fremont and married this guy. Got it. So they met at school here. The couple moved away from the Ohio area after he went into a branch of the service. So they were stationed somewhere else. Then Terry Brooks, after he got out of the service, was a male carrier for years and years. And he's in a small town. Everybody knows the mailman. Yeah. There's a few mailmen. Everybody knows them. And it's you wave at him. Hey, Terry, everyone knows him. And Marilyn was a pension clerk for the United States, or United Mineworkers of America. Pensions for miners. Pensions for miners. She's distributing those. So she's known as a very nice woman. Now, a neighbor who lived in the area said, but the dad, I met him years back and he was a moody guy, moody, like to drink. From what I understand, he was really, really strict with the kids. The mailman. The mailman is strict. Terry does not take shit. That you put it in the slot, then you close the box. God damn it. Now, they have a couple of sons here. They have James, who was born around 1971. They have Nathan John Brooks, who was born April 23rd, 1978. Then another son Ryan is born in 1979. Oh, so they have three boys here. And two of them are very close in age and one is seven years older than the youngs younger two. So he wants nothing to do with those boys. Nothing to do. They are interrupting his masturbation. That's all they're doing. Interrupting him, lack him it. Want for applesauce. Leave me alone. Yeah, I'm trying to beat off. Go away. You're not getting any lunchables right now. Each jet. So when we get to 1995, both Nathan and Ryan are going to high school together, obviously. Go big reds. He owned of that high school. And Nathan's a senior. And Nathan had played football as a freshman in sophomore and then kind of got out of sports. Wasn't really into it anymore. Ryan, on the other hand, is a junior in 1995 and still plays on the team and is very good. Oh, look at that. Really is into sports. He's a different kind of guy. Nathan kind of pulled himself out of all that kind of organized stuff. Now, they, at the 1995, they're in the middle of an undefeated season, the big reds here. Fantastic. Yeah, it's wild stuff. And apparently from what people said, one person said, the biggest thing that holds people together in this town is high school football. Yeah. They said there's so much talent that comes out of here because of the NFL. And you'll see everybody, whether they like each other or not, at the football game side by side. So that's the town activity. A lot of them made the NFL up there. I don't know if they made the, I think a couple of guys made the NFL. But I think it's just this area, Western Pennsylvania, Eastern Ohio is, they're crazy for football. I mean, you think about like that's where Joe name it. Damn, Reno, Jim Kelly, all those guys all came from that area. The Pittsburgh and West area there. So now it's a tough area. Essentially is pushing, yeah. Either sling a crack rocker, you got a wicked jump shot. You know, it's one of those things. It's the Midwestern small town version of that. You're either smoking crack rock or you got a wicked tackle shot. One of the two, that's, that's different. Now Nathan, here are the, all of the second boy, the middle boy. He started out as an ultra boy. Oh, and wanted to be a priest when he grew up. That was his goal. Yeah, he was all about it. Wanted to be a priest. Yeah, it's wild. And the month senior said, quote, I don't have too many young people telling me they want to be priests or ministers. So I definitely remembered when he was inquiring about it. Yeah, that's fascinating. You don't get a lot of 12 year olds going, Hey, what's up with this? No sex. Weird smell in the air all the time. Good for me. Floor length, rock. I think I can get with this. Yeah. All the fucking incense. Yeah, the smell all the time. It's just weird. Everyone thinking you're a pedophile. You know, it's just, yeah, people making all sorts of jo- even your own parishioners all giggling, making jokes about it. Like, this is terrible. Yeah. So he, Nathan learned a lot of Latin. Oh, which is interesting. Yeah. Another thing though, Nathan had a babysitter, a young lady, you know, one of those teenage babysitters that you stick kids with. And she introduced him to some, she was into like, metal and like satanic type shit, but like, you know, 80s satanic shit. Like, I don't know. You can drop pentagram on your fucking, on your trapper keeper and you wear a big wall of hair. And then once you graduate, you get normal and you go get a job, you know. Scream shout at the devil for a little bit. Yeah. Move along. That's all. Yeah, you just, it's it's it. You're a big metallic a fan. That's, you know, whatever. So, I guess as a child, he used to do some weird shit. And they don't know if this is, yeah, we don't know if this is, he like got these satanic ideas and then went and did this shit. Or if he's just kind of a weird kid and weird ideas kind of, you get others, yeah. Well, weird ideas kind of stick with him because he likes weird shit. Sure. One neighbor said that, wow, I guess as a child, he used to nail fish. He'd go fish and get a fish and nail it to trees while they were, nail the fish to a tree while it was still alive so we could watch it die on the tree for some reason. Yikes. Rather than on the ground or, you know, any other place that you'd watch a fish die. It's just a strange thing to do. I don't know. You generally don't even have to watch it. You just throw it in ice box and walk away. That's what I, yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's creepy to want to watch something die watch it. It's weird. Yeah, you try not to do that. You don't want to see it, you know what I mean? Also, he just kind of got an obsession with death. He was just real intrigued by death. Also, he had a little weird habit of butane inhaling, which I didn't even know was a thing. Yeah. I grew up with a lot of morons who did a lot of dumb shit. I remember kids doing inhale and scotch guard free on anything they can get their hands on that would get them high. Nobody ever said, give me that butane. So I don't know what the hell he was doing. Yeah, who, all right. I mean, I guess, I guess, but who sucks on a bick and yeah, hops there's zip-o. That's not a thing. Well, that would be different lighter fluid. You guys have butane, is it? Is that my butane? No, no, no, zip-o, it's that liquid shit that you pour in, actual lighter fluid that soaks into the cotton. I swear that was just liquid butane. That's a different, different thing. But yeah, butane is in the gas for it. It'll give you a rash on your thigh if you overfill it. I don't know that. Well, I had one of bad butane, you know. It's a lot of thigh up. Stay at a friend's house, fell asleep, woke up with my whole entire leg, just a huge nasty rash from a butane from a zip-o that opened my pocket. Now he would inhale one or two cans of butane per day by one point. Tans! Tans. Anything with any kind of propellant or anything like that in his given you fucking brain damage, it's not good for you. It's bad. That's fascinating. Anything like that is bad for you. He likes to drink, he does drugs and, you know, when he's a teenager and a lot of kids do that. Sure. So this is kind of why you got out of football and things like that. At school, he was, people thought of him as quiet, but polite. Bit of a loner, but he wasn't trying to make a spectacle out of himself. He also, they also noticed that he had kind of a real obsession with the occult. He really got into that. At one point, he told one of his classmates, during 1995, I'm going to be famous by Saturday. Oh. So that's pretty real. It's a lot of time on it. I'm going to be famous. The end of the week, I would be famous. That could be for any reason. Yeah. He said, I'm going to cure cancer by Saturday. I have it all locked down in my room. I got to get back to that pretty soon. I've ended a new way to half beauty. It's wild. Everyone's going to know about it. So according to his brother Ryan, the younger brother, the youngest, Nathan collected animal bones as a teenager too. Just collected them. That's weird. That's weird, but I know people who do weird shit like that. You know what I mean? And they make things out of them or whatever. They're weird and that we had somebody send us like skulls made into something. Yeah. They seem like nice people. Yeah. They seem like nice people and it's fine. So I'm not going to judge them on collecting animal bones, but when you put it all into perspective with all the other stuff, it starts to get weird at that point. Is there a display, a shadow box? As if I'm wondering. Yeah. Just a fucking trunk. His parents were even told on multiple occasions that counseling would be a good idea for him, but never gotten he counseling. He is into the satanic Bible though, which a lot of kids, this is a thing though. In the mid 90s, a lot of kids would do this just to have a personality, just to have a thing. Yeah. Yeah. You know, look at the West Memphis three. They were just trying to freak people out. That's all they were doing. That's the same kid that told everybody that he's seen all the faces of death. Exactly. It's that kid. Yeah. I'm super dark, man. Yeah. And that's a way to keep people away from you and to keep people from beating you off or picking on you. And mostly the latter three. Yeah. That's what it is. It's not even just to keep people away. It's the self preservation. I'm tired of getting wedgies. Yeah. Exactly. If I'm weird and crazy, then everyone will just leave me alone. It's the same reason some guy in prison will just smear himself and shit that way people leave alone. You know what I mean? Or they're really crazy. So he also claims he takes the satanic Bible to school, which freaks people out, obviously, the teachers and such. He claims to always have a smell of rotting flesh in about him. He can smell it all the time. Oh, real weird. Strange. Other people can't smell it. He smells it. He smells it. One person here and another girl at the Burger King who described herself as a friend of Nathan's suggested not that much of unusual shit going on. She said that she'd hear him talk of dabbling in devil worship. And she said that he also Nathan would fight with his mom frequently. And he also hated his younger brother, Ryan. Oh, he hates Ryan. Ryan is popular and can do everything. Ryan plays football. Ryan is very popular in school. He's the kid pulling off to himself going, leave me alone. I'm a weird Satanist. So he hates his brother's popular and he hates all that shit. Can't stand him. So this is from Ryan's younger brother's friend's mom. She said she never heard Ryan mention a problem with the parents and Nathan or anything like that. But she sensed that Ryan spent a lot of time at her house because of tension with his brother, Nathan, which makes sense. Nathan's here. Apparently, Nathan was known as, I mean, a nice guy, not a crazy guy. One person said he sort of did some crazy stuff, but a lot of people do weird things when they're young. So everyone just blew this off as normal teenage behavior because most of the time, that's what it is. And people grow out of it. And eventually they have two kids and their soul dies and they drink when they get home from work. They pray for sweet, the sweet release of death. That's normal. That lawn is mode. But the lawn will be mode. Another person from school heard Nathan talk about killing people and I'm going to kill a bunch of people and stuff like that. But this person said no one really took him seriously when he said that. He said it like it was a joke. He didn't say it like he was serious. He said it like he was, you know, just blowing off steam and whatever. Another one here. Oh boy. A girl on the bus. That's a few years younger than Nathan. She's on the bus. She said she never came across someone that gave her such a dark feeling. Dark feeling. She said that she knew to stay away from Nathan quote, due to his aura. A lot of 11 year old girls very hip to auras. Real. They understand it. She said she rubs. Yeah. She said just being on the bus with him was weird and she said it, you know, not many people are in tune with that, you know, but I at 10 years old that stood out to me. That's what I did. It's what I did. She said you generally, you know, someone who makes your blood run cold on a daily basis. And to me, I just feel like, and maybe that's why I don't remember anything prior to that. So his dark aura wiped her memory as a child. Just men and black. Just from being on the bus. Yeah. That's a fascinating blue bird ride love. Whoa. That is some strange shit. He said maybe he was just a regular kid before that, but when the energy shifted, when he started dabbling into it, I just know that it was very non natural and that it was very heavy and dark and uncomfortable. So at this time in particular, you know, she said, I was in the seating and you know, he was sitting in front of me and had this other kid around his age and they were older than me. He said, I was sitting behind them. And I just remembered them goofing off and kind of laughing. Oh, my God. Kids on the bus goofing off. Are they laughing? Oh, my God. Jesus. No. Not that. It was no good when he laughed. You can tell. I said, there's kids are laughing on a bus. She said I was fixated on it because I was just so uncomfortable and I just wanted to get to my stop. So I'm watching the road. How many turns to get to my house? And I remember I could see my bus stop and I'm getting excited. She said, and I go to stand up and the boys sitting with him wrapped my arm and held it down on top of the seat. And as he did it almost side and mutaneously, Nathan scratched my arm, my forearm. I ran off the bus. And I ran off the bus kind of in shock and uncomfortable. And it wasn't until I was walking home and I looked down and I'm like, wow, he broke the skin on my arm. And she said, I didn't tell my parents about it. I didn't draw any attention because I didn't want to deal with it. A man scratched you. She's making a big deal. This is trauma. Also, what kind of like 14 year old you like grab that 10 year old I want to scratch your arm. That's I've never even heard of that before. So I don't know if she sounds a little wacky. I'll be honest with you. 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Now Nathan also got into weird shit which made Terry get more mad at him and it was kind of a circular thing here and also he got into weird shit because his dad was always mad at him. So it's very circular here. Now the last week of September 1995. They have an older brother James who he said who's at this point married and all that kind of thing. Ryan had spent the weekend in Martin's Ferry, Ohio with the brother and his wife. Ryan had been visiting his brother and wife. September 30th 1995. Ryan plays in the football game that night. Big Reds won that day by the way. So he was going to spend the night at his friend's house at the trailer park that's nearby. Hell yeah. So 12 30 a.m. Ryan who's 16 is hanging out. He said his buddy Eric Barright's house and they're hanging out staying up late. You know, doing what kids do. I'm in a good time. Especially if you had a football game that night it's going to take a while to come down from that. So like sleep. We do a comedy show. I am nightmare. I'm I'm I'm amped. I can't do anything till four in the morning. I can't think of resting. You know what I mean? You're just jacked from that. So I would assume it's the same thing. So they're hanging out about one 30 in the morning. Ryan decides he should check in with his parents. I just let him know I'm here. I just kind of came over. So he calls his parents. Now on the other end Nathan's there. He answers. And Ryan says tell mom and dad that I'm staying with Eric tonight. Nathan says no, you can't. I think mom and dad want you home. Oh, what's his strange. So he's like, oh really? And he's like, yeah, that's what I heard. That's what they said. I said, yeah, I'm going to go home. You know how dad gets and so Ryan was like, yeah, right. I guess I'll come home then. But he doesn't come home right away. And which is probably and I'm just going to make a completely speculative thing here. They're teenagers. He might have had a couple of beers. Sure. Might have smoked a join or something. Whatever it is. Who knows? And it could be anything. But I'm just saying probably wanted a chill for a minute. So he waits an hour before coming home. Yeah, I want this buzz. We're off. That's what I'm if it was me. That's what would have been my reasoning. So I'm not saying that's Ryan, but that's me. So he doesn't go home right away. He's having fun and all that kind of shit. So Nathan, an hour goes by and he never comes home. So Nathan goes looking for him. He shows up at the trailer around two or three in the morning. So Eric's mom is sleeping. That's the friend there or the mom sleeping. She hears someone pounding on the door. She opens it and there's Nathan. He looks disheveled and at a breath and panic, she said. So long ride. So he asks if Ryan's there. She tells him no and shuts the door and locks it. Fuck off. It's three o'clock in the morning. So now Eric had driven Ryan back home. They pull up to the Brooks house to Nathan and Ryan's house. Ryan walks inside and he finds a note. Okay. First of all, he finds a note and then he finds other things in these rooms. The note says, this is Nathan. I murdered two people and I'm going to turn myself in. Yeah. That's the note. I just said Nathan at the end, but okay. Yeah. This is Nathan. Well, a letter ends with your name. That's normal. Also, when you understand what has happened in this house, it couldn't, this note can't be for anyone else. So no. No. No. Very interesting. Now, I guess, I guess Ryan went in and then he ran out screaming and yelling and basically fucking took off from there like holy shit. Now he calls the cops. What they find inside is a horror movie scene. Sure. And the cops are freaked out by it. These are small town cops that don't see this type of shit too often. No. Nobody really sees this type of stuff too often. They went in through the front door, turned right. Now when Ryan went in, he turned right and he saw his mom in the first room and she is dead in a bed. She has stab wounds all over. And there are nails on her nightstand, which is strange. So then they went into Nathan's room and they find a wash basin sitting there with the dad Terry, his head is in the wash, wash basin, just his head, just a random wash basin with the dad's head in it, just a sitting with ashes all around the basin as well. Like something was burned around the head for some reason. Yeah, he was also there was a rubber like a Halloween mask underneath the, the skull as well, the head. It was trimmed with a black wig. So that's strange. The next room is they find the rest of Terry. That is, I guess Terry and Marilyn were sleeping in different rooms. That's how this went down. On the bed by Terry is a saw, an axe and a rifle. Just to choose your own murder adventure kit. So they see that Marilyn is still covered in blood. So the com for her soaked, she's in a twin bed. There is a long knife still deeply embedded in her right side above her waist. God damn. And they also see that she's been shopped with an axe. At the bottom of the bed is a ball peen hammer. So it looks like eight people came in and yeah, it's a lot of weapons, a lot of weapons. She was struck in the back of the head and with the hammer and stabbed at least ten times with a kitchen knife. Terry was shot three times. Yeah, with a 22 caliber rifle. But his head is also taken from his body, obviously. His headless body is on a bed with his arms above his torso and blood splattered and spat it all over the fucking room. Obviously, if you take a head off, it's going to be messy. There's going to be some, yeah. Now Nathan's room where the head is, there's also what the cops want to call a make-shift alter. Yeah. He has all this shit on his wall in one particular spot that's all like, you know, kind of dark stuff, all what they would call Satanism and occult stuff like that. And this is the kicker. They said, because you got to think when this is 1995, 1995 is when they convicted the West Memphis three. So Satanic panic is running rampant through middle America at this point. They also said he even had a Jeffrey Dahmer biography. Oh, is that right? How dare he's guilty? He did it. The biography. A true crime book, which our listeners, that's ubiquitous, you know, just one. Yeah. Come in my office and take a look around. I have hundreds of these books around because people send them to me all the time and I love it. Thank you for doing that. But I have hundreds of these books all over the place. So they believed by looking at this and looking at the head in a wash basin with ashes around it. And this shit on the wall and the Jeffrey Dahmer biography that this is all a Satanic ritual. Sure seems like it, right? Clearly. Now the officers, by the way, there's cops running out of the house to throw up in the yard so they didn't screw up the crime scene. It's not good at all. Now Ryan obviously is fucked up from finding all this. He had this poor bastard. Yeah. Okay. Function later on, he's going to change his name, even get a new social security number. So new, I don't even know you could do that. I didn't even know you could do that. But that's how much he wants to disappear and get away from all this. Now the only person who's not here is Nathan. Yeah. There's a note, but that's it. He wasn't the double wide. He was there. Now he's, they don't know. Just go up. Apparently, as Ryan had been coming home, was when Nathan was going to try to find him at the trailer. So they had passed each other in the night and just didn't know it. They had no idea about that. Now cops get radio broadcasts that Nathan is being seen all over the town everywhere. He is like, he can fly. I mean, he's, he's at the high school. No, he's not. He's at the dairy queen. No, he's not. He's over here. But they finally get a credible report of his location. And that was that he was knocking on his friend's door. Right. So he did. He knocked on their door at 3 a.m. And you know, that's what's going on. And also, and Ryan wasn't there and all of that. So they said the weird part is when he came and knocked on the door, Nathan's a, they said he's just does weird shit sometimes. They said it wasn't really unusual for Nathan to do something weird like that because he's weird. It's just a strange thing. One person said Nathan seemed like a normal kid, a quiet, a little quiet, a little shy, but well mannered and friendly. We can't believe he'd be capable of doing something like this. I mean, we don't know. He did do it. Maybe he left and then some stark, raving bloodthirsty madman broken and did this. And then signed his name to it. Yeah, he's just got a great look. He just happened to not be there. And anyway, so they said one person said today there's a lot of fear in people. Fear that things could get out of hand in their families. Fear that problems they're dealing with could explode. This happened so close to home. This is the Reverend who knows everybody. So it's just that's who they attended church there. So the cops had to rigs road, which is out by the trailer park and the cemetery where he cuts the grass. As they pull down the road, they see somebody walking down the middle of the road. They're like, well, this has got to be something, right? It's Nathan just walking down the middle of the road. They stop and they draw their weapons. Fucking stop right now. Asshole. He surrenders. He's unarmed. Put his hands up. Hey guys, he's got more weapons. This guy's got all of them. He left a variety of weapons in his house there. And he, not only that, they come up to him and he says, I have another crime to report. What'd you do? And yeah, he takes the cops to the trailer of his friend. Remember the one he knocked on and they, whatever. Okay. At that trailer, he apparently got into the house after those people went back to bed because he brings him to the house and says, look on the wall. There's an envelope. He took a knife and stuck an envelope to the wall with a knife like a psychopath in a movie. Think about that. And on the note, on the envelope, it says, for Ryan, if anyone else touches, I will kill you. There was money in the envelope. Oh, he left him some money, which is wild. I don't know why he did that. So he starts, yeah, I've been telling the cops. He said, I had big plans for this night. Yeah. He said, I was going to kill a bunch more people. I had a list. I was going to kill a bunch more people that were a list of sacrifices to Satan. Okay. And then I would finish the night off by killing myself as an offering to Satan. Oh, duh. Yeah. Wow. Yeah, I will, I'll read this is from the police report. Okay. Ryan Brooks, the brother, told them that he had returned home and found his parents. Murdered at the time while at this time, while responding to the scene, dispatch received additional information that the suspect was driving a green geo Metro. Oh, what a great car. It doesn't get like 58 miles to the gallon, but whoo. He is going to get far on that tank of gas. He can go forever. If nobody sees him, if he doesn't have a squirrel and break it. So which minutes later was spotted near Mount Zion cemetery. At this time, the deputy Tom Butler and Belair units proceeded to that location first observing the vehicle in question and found the subject away from the vehicle in the roadway running toward the cruisers. He was immediately taken into custody. Sergeant Don Samples, what is this, proceeded to the residence on Margie Drive and met with emergency squad. We then drove back to the, we, oh, I'm sorry. We then drove back to the far bedroom to the lane where the residence was and inside the residence, we found two victims. Terry Brooks was in the far bedroom as had been decapitated where the head was found in a bowl placed on a chair in an adjacent bedroom. Marilyn Brooks was found in another bedroom with a knife embedded in her chest area. The bed there where the head was located. There was a rifle, bow saw and hatchet on the wall. There was numerous satanic pictures, letters and drawings. In the bedroom where Marilyn Brooks was located, we located an axe under the bed, hammer laying on the bed and two nails beside her. The crime scene was roped off. They gathered a large quantity of evidence and that's how that goes. Now, Nathan had a hit list. Who was on it? Not only a hit list, he had different hit lists. This is something he'd work on in different places. He had a school hit list. They found one in his locker and one in his bedroom. So he was working at it on two different locations there. He's working at it. Yeah, initially they to calm the public down, the cops said there are reports of any kind of hit lists or false. But later on we find out they're not false. They're actually very true. What the fuck? He had a kill list of the contained 16 names. 16. He was going to kill all these people. That's a lot. That's a shit. How you going to get all those? The list was said to have his brother Ryan as the first planned victim. Oh, Jesus poor Ryan. Jesus man, poor he lost his parents. His brother wanted to kill him. He had a list of people he wanted to kill, including the local Catholic priest. Really? Who he said specifically he wanted to kill, cut up and eat on a hot dog bun. I don't know why the first. I don't know if a hamburger bun wouldn't be good enough for him. On a bun. Get him some nice Italian like a hokey roll. For some easy, yeah. What kind? That's not specific on that one. Potato, we're not sure. But he had a handwritten one. Next to Ryan's name, he had dismembered to capitate written. Oh, that is wild. That's why finding that out. Yes, that's why he was telling him to come home because he wanted him to come home so we could kill him to kill the whole family in one big swoop there. Wow, that's crazy. So on the same page, he had written all these names, things crossed out. He had drawn sketches of Satan and a pentagram. He also jotted down. Satan will show you peace at the top of the page. Okay. So he's got Ryan. He's got mother and father listed second and third. Next to his mother's name, he has eviscerate crucify nails. That's the nails are for. Oh my god. Like a, they're like, oh shit, he had a plan here. Next to his father's name, he had to capitate, which he did. He did that. He did that. So in, here's the rest of the list. Amber Lisa, Justin, Jason, Ryan, Dave, Corey, Jill, Mike and Ashley. That's a lot of people, man. Now the crazy part is he had little notes next to them like he did with his parents. Instructions? One, he said, quote, molest sum. So little sum, not a lot. Let's not get crazy here. molest sum. Others next to them, he had skin. Pull their skin off of them. Skin them, which I'd rather be molested. That's better. Yeah, just a little, I'd rather have a light dittling than be skinned alive. After two of the, the girls on the list, he had dismember and eviscerate. Like he had with his mom, two names are crossed out and no times are listed next to the deleted entries. It's a parent that he planned to carry out these killings and that's what he did. And he had them in groups of like where you could find them together. Like Amber and Lisa are listed together as our Jason, Ryan and Dave and Ashley and one of the scratched out would be victims as well. He changed his mind. He wrote somebody down and he went, yeah, never mind. They're not that bad. Did he think that he was going to be able to just go to these places without any mind knowing? I think he did. Wow. And the fucked up part is they said the lists were different. They weren't the exact same lists. So he had like different thoughts. The one cop who found it said they weren't the same. The other list came out and I think there was at least two that the police department and sheriff's department went through and mine was different. The one I found in the locker. He, you know, it's, if you picked it up and I had gone through the locker prior to it, I don't think that I would even think of anything of it. Who thinks like that? Is this, wow. This is also like pre-columbine. So right. If you found a thing, you'd be like this jerk off with his list of people. Fuck you. That's what people would think. They wouldn't even think nowadays we take that shit seriously. Fuck you. In fact, that nobody took that shit seriously. Nobody did. Nobody did. So they sit him down to have an interrogation with him. He's obviously an interesting guy. There's nothing. Oh, this would be so fun. Oh, yeah. And he told the cops right away. Oh, yeah. Oh, my brother. Absolutely. He said, but it went awry because my brother wouldn't come home. He said that he has, quote, been in hell since I was little. That's what he said. And he said that he felt hate and anger prior to the killings, but was happy after it was done. Now he's happy. Yeah. He also said that he, that he drank some beer, then killed his parents, then took a walk to decide if he should kill more people. He said, he took the walk to be honest. That's good. He said, quote, I started drinking. That's good to take a walk and clear your head. Good for your heart. He's always going to fix things. Yeah. He said, I started drinking some beer, then I went into my mom's room and I murdered her. And then I murdered my dad. He said, then I took a walk to think. And he said, what were you thinking about? And he said, I was deciding if I should kill more people. He said, it wasn't unusual for me to have the urge to kill people. He said, it's always there since I was little. It's always been there. Wow. He said, I've tried everything and this is amazing. This is his range of everything. I've tried everything. Drugs, church, I'm numb. Neither of those could do it. I tried drugs. I tried church. Fuck it. Never mind. My office is and neither worked. So did you, did you try, try cross stitching? No, you didn't, did you? Did you try cross fit? Anything. Drugs and church. He's like, well, I'm out of ideas. That's it. That's all I got. He said, I'm numb. Then right before it happens, there's pain, anger, and then afterwards love and happiness. I thought it was Satan, but it's lies. Oh, he said, yes, he severed his father's head with a saw. No problem. He said also the rifle is what he shot him with in the long handled knife he stabbed his mom with and a long handled ax as he chopped her with. So the sheriff says, you talk to Satan? Yeah. He says, yeah, a little bit. It were pals. I mean, you know, it's not every day. I mean, we're not like, you know, tight like that. You know, holidays. He doesn't look like that. He doesn't look like that. He doesn't look like that. We're playing at real casual right now, but yeah, we talk. I see he's doing something. I'm like, hey, good for you. You know what I mean? He's, he's I'm doing something. He hits me back. You know, it's one of those, you know, like you have with comedians, one of those kind of things. They said, does he talk back to you? Which is a great question. Yeah. And Nathan says, quote, yeah. It's like you talked to the Lord. Sometimes he answers back. Oh boy. No, shouldn't if any entity, no matter what you want to call it, the devil, God, if you hear any of them talking back to you, you're fucking crazy. There's an issue. There's an issue there. You can believe in anything you want, but it's nobody's talking back to you. There is no voice. So Ryan, he said about Ryan, he said, quote, I drove around looking for him. I didn't want him to see what I did. I wanted him to be with mom and dad. So he didn't want Ryan to find the mess. He just wanted to kill him. He then told the sheriff, quote, people don't understand. No, we really don't. Yeah, it's been 30 years. I still don't understand. So then the, this is from the sheriff. The sheriff said, quote, he said he tried to talk to people. He's a very intelligent young man and very well read. Yeah, he knows Latin for Christ. He said, there's a fine line between madness and genius. Oh, yeah. I think he's got a little bit of both here. Wow, that's crazy. Now the lady who, this is the mother of the boy of Eric. Yeah, the boy who Ryan was at his house here. She said, I've lived here my entire life and I can't think of anything as bad as this. I'm not saying we've never had any crime, but we've never had anything this gruesome. Yeah, pretty gross. And then she said, holy shit, that's when she realized, too, that he came over to kill his brother at my house at your house. And maybe us too, you know what I mean? You don't know. Now, remember the girl at the burger king? Yeah, burger king girl says, quote, he was normal. I don't think that. I think normal is a stretch to. Is she getting an aura? No, no, that's the bus girl, not the burger king girl, different girl. He was normal. It's way different on the bus than he does down at the burger king. You can't act up down at the burger king. Okay, you're right out. She said, he was normal. I still can't believe he did this. I knew he had fights with his parents, but so did everybody. So did I. Everybody does. Yeah, I guess so. Wow, that's a lot. Now they offer counseling to the whole high school and all that kind of thing. The high school football coach said, as we all want to know what the high school football coach, that's who can really put everything in the, in the perspective. For us, he said every town once in a while, I guess, has something bizarre happen, but nothing like this. This is about as bizarre as it gets. You bet. Thank you for that extra information there. Yeah. Now, a few days later, the house is on fire. The burger house at one 30 a.m. fire officials, officials are called in and apparently the front porch is on fire. Oh. And they suspect it's a prank. Somebody set the murder house on fire. Frank or they don't want this fucking house here. Exactly. One of the two. So anyway, they were called out and they had, they put the fire out. It didn't burn the whole, it just burned the front porch up a little bit. So they had a funeral, obviously, and they talk about, try to avoid the subject of the sun and everything like that. Now in jail, he's acting a little strange here. One of the workers, this is the sheriff James Zuzak, said quote, he would speak English and he would speak fluent Latin. Then go back to English. That was really weird to me that he would do that. I didn't know if he was making sense, but that's something that he, but that's something he worships Satan, of course. I wasn't at the crime scene, thank goodness, but I feel bad for the guys that were, feel bad for his brother and to find his parents like that. Right. Yeah, it's real weird for some small town like Eastern Ohio kid to just be speaking fluent Latin in jail. That's not normal. I don't think they don't get that a lot probably. That'll keep people the fuck away from you though. If you know Latin, yeah, it's really weird. It's yeah, they're like, what's going on? You can make that shit sound real, real scary just by speaking, you know, especially if you're fluent, I would say one of the deputies said, and when I first encountered Nathan Brooks, he was numb. He did not speak many words and that was odd for me for, to me, for a boy that age. He responded to my questions, but he didn't initiate much. What I remember was that he was a young boy who was very distant. He was polite and compliant, but oddly quiet. Another should, deputies said he was always nice to me, but because I knew exactly what he did to his parents, I wouldn't turn my back on him ever. I didn't get too close. We talked, but I don't remember having any major conversations with him. And that was okay really because we were told not to discuss the case with him because it could put the investigation in jeopardy, obviously. So they said that they talked to him and he was just be a real normal kid. And then they said it was like, it was like when he reminded, he was reminded of what he did. It would upset him to the extent that he would just go silent. It wasn't like he was put on suicide watch, but it concerned us as well because it was frightening to see him that way. Another one said when I first met him, he was just very dark and distant. I had never seen someone with dark eyes like Nathan had. He was numb. So a lot of people said that and he read books, watch TV. He was, he was never classified as a problem inmate or anything like that. You know, nothing there. One lady who worked at the jail said he would ask about my garden. He said his mother had a nice garden and that he would help her at times. So normal shit. Another one said he said to us what he thought we wanted to hear. I think he wanted us to think he was a nice guy. He was like the kid next door most of the time. He was a friendly kid, but he was there for a reason. I would say so everybody's kind of like everybody in the jail kind of wants to get a gander at him. See what he's like. He's a little zoo animal. Yeah. So that's everybody's talking to him like that. One person said, I can still picture myself standing back by that cell and Nathan having that smile on his face. He was real respectful to us. I never felt threatened by him, but I was careful never to put myself in the wrong position. There were two parents dead and we knew he was hunting down as younger brother before he was arrested. So yes, something was very wrong. But then we learned about his hit list and the names of others he wanted to kill. I wasn't scared of him, but he was a very empty young man who had those empty eyes and that blank stare. So yes, it was very eerie to me. So they also talk about how was he going to crucify his mom? Because he's got a hammer and he's got nails and he's wrote crucify and he followed through on his other directive, which was to capitate. So they're wondering now they're also going, hey, they say they say tannic angle. We got to talk about that. Now there's a guy named Ralph Sarache who's a in my opinion, a complete dipshit. Well, an absolute fucking clown show. This guy, he's a dummy. He's a retired NYPD guy and a quote general demonic expert. Oh, nice. Yeah. So this fucking dummy says quote, I think, wow, he wanted to crucify his mother, but he would have needed the help of Satan to do it. Oh, yeah, he was busy. This is the thing. He'll show up and help you move according to this Ralph Sarache guy. Like he'll show up if you got like some extra boxes and beer. I'm in. Yeah, you rented a, like a tree, you haul trailer to tow behind your car. He's going to help you out just for some pizza money. He said quote, I think demons are smart enough to know that these little penny nails won't hold up a body. The demons know that the demons know construction. That's the other thing. So he showed up and said, no, no, those aren't going to do. How about when you have the right hardware? Yeah, I got to go, I got a whole whole, I got to go like take care of it. I got to burn down a school in South America. Like I got 200 nuns to kill. I'm going to go do that. They have all the equipment. So how are I mean, when you have yours, because this is going to take, you got to know me. Deepo, there's a guy down there with gasoline in a match right now. He's ready to go. So I'm going to go hit him on waiting. You, you got these fucking nails waste of my time. Take a trip to Lowe's and get back to me. Have a good one. What are we hanging for? What are we hanging pictures? We're going to hang your mom. We need much bigger than that. You need better nails than this, Jack. Yeah, a stud finder. Get one of those too. So this guy says there's three stages of the demonic is what he gets into. He says so first is the infestations where they, you know, they have permission to infest and haunt the location and activate and manifest in a manner that they wish. Number two is the oppression, which is the psychological breakdown of the individual where they will start to amplify and are capable of doing so in any sort of negative emotion that a human being can have and to the point where they can end up harming, you know, yourself or others. He said that's where the influence comes in. He said if possession fully comes over, then there's no bounds to what they're capable of doing because ultimately, typically, which is rare when possession happens, is that inadvertently maybe or vocally, he just said a million words that don't go together. And don't mean anything. He's just stalling. They give themselves up to this thing because they just allow it to take themselves over and is trying to get them pushed to the edge and ultimately until they just give up and say, you know, just take me. Here's a guy that saw the conjuring this man had a badge and a gun. Stop it. That's a car. He's a retired NYPD officer. Oh my God. This guy could take you to jail. He's insane. In my opinion, he said, because I truly believe evil did have its hands around Nathan's neck. They were right cheering him on until until he did what he did. I'm sure they wished he committed and completed that with that list. Thankfully, he wasn't able to complete that. And there was some sort of blockage before he could finish his worst. I'm a blockage. A blockage. Yeah. Satan couldn't make it. As the roads were closed, you know, because I'm sure no one had any idea that he was capable of doing that. And so a lot of people say is that they don't think he was capable of doing something like that. But that just shows you the power of demonic influence. Yeah. Oh, yeah. He's nicknamed all over the newspapers already. Devlin Belair, dark prints of Belmont County. One newspaper article just at the headline is Master of Death. Master Master of Death. Okay. He got a share. Jesus, man. Well, a classmate of his sums it up more. Sainly, let's just say, I was gonna say cogent, but let's just say, Sainly and less fucking in lunatics wise. He says he sort of did some crazy stuff, but a lot of people do weird things when they're young. You know, I think he said things because he wanted somebody to stop him. That's all more. Yeah. So now will there be a Halloween this year? Because this happened there? No. This freaks everybody out. We got the guy that did it. Nope. They literally said, at this point, and this is a crazy quote, this is from a, I think a, a, a, a reverend. This is a reverend. We've got teenager sleeping with their parents. Adults who won't go out after dark and parents who never leave their children. Meaning they're all freaked out. Even though he's caught, they all think that Satan has taken over the town. He's gonna possess other people and there's gonna be murders. If you go out, dressed as evil, con evil, you're gonna be possessed. Obviously. Yeah. Yeah. You're gonna dress like he, man, it's over. Yeah. Forget it. You're fucked, man. You're in deep shit. Oh, my God. You're gonna be a mighty Morphin Power Ranger. There's consequences for that. You're gonna do it. You're gonna do it. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles kill their parents every time. We all know that. So one of them said, quote, I suppose you can argue that it was a pagan ritual, but the way Americans celebrate Halloween has nothing to do with good and evil. Okay. Yeah. Anyway, they don't have Halloween. Belair asks families not to trick or treat this year. Canceled. The year Halloween was canceled. Oh, my God. Canceled. They said almost immediately the town's official, officials canceled trick or treating because of the rumors about satanic worshiping and no one knew what else could be involved with Nathan Brooks. Everyone was worried these devil worshipers would do something to the kids. No one knew for sure. No one knew that satanic stuff was taking place around here. It was scary. Everyone was hearing rumors of a list. He's one idiot teenager and he's in jail. It's so fucking crazy. And the only people hurt were his parents. That's it. One person said his father, Terry, was my mailman at the time and he and I would sometimes talk because he said he was concerned about his kids and how they were doing in school. I got the impression that he put a lot of pressure on those boys with their grades where they were concerned, but I have no idea if that was one of the reasons why Nathan did what he did. Yeah. And another one, another friend said she was shocked because she never mentioned anything about Nathan being weird and that he didn't try to recruit her. They would sit together in the library and talk about school and other classmates, but she says he never mentioned wanting to kill anybody or you know, Satan or anything. Now pre-trial, they want his statements to be thrown out. Obviously. Really? He talks back and not going to shit, but the judge rules those could be used. He was right as Miranda writes even at 17. So he's going to be tried as an adult and he pleads not guilty by reason of insanity. Oh, which seems reasonable. You know, the prosecutor says that two psychologists will testify that he was legally sane and knew the wrongfulness of his conduct. The defense attorney says that he's insane. Period. That's it. He even said that he was mentally ill. He said he made elaborate plans to sacrifice 30 people to Satan. He was obsessed at this point with the killing. He was out of control. He didn't know how and he couldn't stop. Yeah. So that's your strategy is he wanted to kill even more people. Isn't that weird? Right. Crazy, right? Uh, so there's three experts brought into the proceedings and they're split on the point of whether or not he was insane at the time of the murders. The prosecution shrinks here. They tell the judge that Nathan is a quote, very, very dangerous person and referred to him as a psychopath. Another psychologist said that he may have a personality disorder, but not a severe mental disorder. So he said he talked about hiding the gun. So his father wouldn't find it. He probably knew it was wrong to have a gun. The defense psychologist though said that a man charged with these slayings. I mean, they'll be well, crazy to me. Yeah. And he also said that he was constantly plagued by these desires to kill. He said that Nathan told him as a child, he used to nail fish fish to trees and watch them die as he grew older. He was obsessed with death and also he's got brain damage by inhaling one to two cans of butane per day. Right. Yeah. He said that much. That sounds right. I definitely buy that. He said personality tests two extensive interviews. He did everything and they all indicate that he is paranoid and schizophrenic. So the verdict there basically have to decide crazy or not crazy. That's your choices. That's your choice. And he's 17, 18 at the time of the trial, but a jury of six men and six women by the way, deliberations take under three hours to complete. Wow. Seems like you'd take more than that, but they find him guilty of two charges of aggravating murder and using a firearm in the commission of a felony. Okay. Wow. They said we know it wasn't an easy task, but forever, whatever it's worth, the court agrees with your verdict. That's what the judge said. Now sentencing came around and judge says you young satanic man, they fuck off 43 years maximum. He guess which is the maximum of what he gets sentenced to here or what the crime was. One guy here, one of the cops said he asked me what prison was going to be like or something along those lines. What's it going to be like when I get there or something like that? I don't know. Maybe that's when it all became real for him. I don't know. Now everybody paid attention. One person in the town said that it was in the trial was every single day and every single newspaper article everyone wanted to because they didn't know they just heard rumors of this list. And that trial is when the list finally came out. So that's when everything went crazy because they said everyone wanted to know if they were on the list because of all the rumors about it. We wanted to know about this satanic worshiping too because before the murders, no one thought it was possible around here. Yeah. You know, small town murder. They said no one was surprised with the results of the trial. Obviously a councilwoman said there had to be a lot of anger and frustration inside that boy. I would think to do what Nathan did the way he did it. Something had to be seriously wrong in that house. And one way I feel sorry for him because I'll never again see the light of day and all he has to do in prison is think about what he did and do that forever. Something had to happen. That's my theory anyway. And I think most people in Bel Air would agree with me, but it's still Haunt's Bel Air. I can tell you that. So someone also said about the satanic angle. Someone from town said when the crime occurred, I think the town wanted someone to pin it on. They wanted justice. They wanted some kind of accountability. So instead of looking into the ethereal and spiritual, they wanted straight justice. And so from part of that, they missed a lot of investigating. They said, this is crazy. I think this is a Ralph Sriracha guy. He said, if he was building rapport with these different deities, demons, whatever, you want to call it, did they take, they did take charge of him because that stuff is real. It truly does happen. And if they did take him over, then that's a form of attachment. He was already doing during the three stages of oppression. He had the depression. What's next possession? Obviously. Yeah. According to one idiot, I feel like he could have had very much been possessed. And the reason why my, the reason why is my dad was a deer hunter. And with him being a deer hunter, I watched two or three men skin a deer and decapitate it. Nathan decapitated his dad. That's not a one man job. He's saying that demons helped him do this. He couldn't have done it by himself. We've heard a hundred stories of someone taking a head off on their own. No problem. Oh, yeah. No problem. The one we just did yesterday, the guy did it with a, with a piece of a hacksaw with a rag wrapped around the back of it. Yes. You can do it. That's fucking crazy. So they said they look at us, meaning the demons. They look at us as absolute animals. And that's how Nathan saw his mother that night. Wow. So they, he goes on to more satanic shit. They said, I don't even know this is ridiculous, man. Imagine this kind of publicity that would be around this case if Ed and Lorraine Warren had their hands on this case. Forget about it. They also said this is amazing. One thing also, one of the reasons I think this case wasn't looked at for demonic possession is because of the OJ Simpson trial. He said this trial would have been way bigger if OJ wouldn't have happened at this time. Everyone was too concentrated on OJ. OJ, this one on page 12. Oh, yeah, absolutely, man. They go to another, the people who made this documentary went to the town for the Bel Air House, which is a haunted house in town, but they ended up saying while they were there, they heard a voice say, a viscerate. And that's why they started looking into this case. So that's, yeah, the town then gets really nuts about Satan. They have seminars to explore Satanism. Everyone is terrified of Satan at this point. It's fucking insane. A minister said it's called Satanism in the Ohio Valley. And he said, it's been dismissed around us for years, but it's real. He said, the frightening thing is it's not a bunch of kids running around in robes. They're doctors, lawyers, priests and child care workers. They're humans like me and you. They are. He said, Satan will dress up real pretty on Sunday mornings, walk down the aisle, take my hand and say, can I become a part of your church? That's what Satan does. This is real pretty on Sunday. That's right. As of July 2025, he was prisoner, Nathan was prisoner a three three seven seven two six at the London Correctional Institution in London, Ohio. So there he stays. Yeah, it's, everybody is blown away by this. One cop that went with him all the time said, I take him to any kind of doctor's visits, psychological visits court. I always rode in the back of the cop car with him without a weapon. He was the type of person that looked normal. He acted normal, looked normal, but there was just something you could tell he worshiped Satan. You could tell you could see it and beat Satan. He has. Wow. Feel it. You can taste it, shit. Yep. So his parole, he has a parole hearing. That has just been delayed till November, but then I don't think it happened again. So he might get parole, but I don't think so. So they said that after 1995, when they resumed trick or treating, by the way, parents all went with their kids again. I was turned into that. You're going to save him. Yeah. He killed his parents for Christ's sake. You're not safe. Not safe at all. There's a bunch of people that, you know, that's that talk about him later on. One person said the night that happened, he actually hit on our front porch under the table when police went by. He also dug up a few graves in the cemetery by our house that night. I don't know if he had time to do that. No one who lived through that time or knew that or knew them is offended by the story. Don't be ashamed for somebody said that you shouldn't talk about these people. I like this one. This comment quote, Nathan was an ass jack. Not a jackass, an ass jack. So there you go. Everybody. He's an ass jack. Bel Aero, Hi, oh, everybody, and some crazy small town satan shit. So there you go. Very quickly. Shut up and give me murder.com. Get your tickets to live shows. Nashville, Durham, Atlanta, Phoenix Salt Lake City, Denver, Buffalo, Royal, local, walkie-many,apolis, Dallas, San Jose, Sacramento, Terry, town, Boston, all for sale. Right now, get them there. Patreon.com slash crime and sports can't beat at $5 a month. All the bonus stuff we've ever done. 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