PBD Podcast

Pam Bondi OUT As Attorney General | PBD #769

149 min
Apr 3, 202615 days ago
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Summary

PBD Podcast episode covering major political developments including Pam Bondi's firing as Attorney General, the Iran bridge bombing and escalating Middle East tensions, DeSantis's voter ID legislation, and discussions on Christian persecution in Nigeria and Canada's controversial hate speech bill targeting Bible quotes.

Insights
  • Trump's personnel decisions follow a loyalty-competence matrix: loyalty gets you in the door, but competence keeps you in the house; Bondi's firing suggests competence gaps despite loyalty
  • Media training and discretion are critical for high-level government positions; leaking classified information or discussing sensitive matters publicly can undermine credibility
  • The U.S. faces a strategic dilemma in Iran: withdrawing signals weakness and emboldens adversaries, but continued escalation risks domestic political backlash and economic consequences
  • Christian persecution is systematically underreported globally compared to other religious groups, representing a significant blind spot in mainstream media coverage
  • DeSantis demonstrates that effective governance requires common sense, spine, and the ability to tune out noise—qualities that differentiate successful leaders from those who fail
Trends
Weaponization of government institutions against political opponents remains a persistent concern despite change in administrationChristian persecution and religious freedom under attack in Western democracies (Canada, UK) alongside traditional persecution zonesMass exodus from California and progressive-run cities accelerating, with population and business migration to Florida and conservative statesNATO alliance under strain; U.S. questioning cost-benefit of traditional alliances and demanding equitable burden-sharingBallistic evidence and forensic analysis increasingly questioned in high-profile cases, eroding public trust in institutional fact-findingGender ideology and deconstruction of traditional values becoming explicit policy in progressive jurisdictionsOil price volatility (101-114 range) creating economic uncertainty and political vulnerability for current administrationManufactured fractures within Republican party potentially benefiting Democratic candidates through vote-splitting scenarios
Companies
Vanguard
Financial services company featured in mid-roll advertisement about tax year-end planning and investment guidance
Department of Justice
Federal agency under scrutiny for handling of Epstein files and alleged weaponization against political opponents
FBI
Federal agency criticized for lack of accountability in Charlie Kirk assassination investigation and forensic analysis
People
Pam Bondi
Fired as Attorney General; criticized for poor handling of Epstein files and media training failures
Todd Blanche
Promoted to Acting AG; questioned about Epstein files transparency and prosecution strategy
Ron DeSantis
Praised for signing SAVE Act voter ID legislation and holding judges accountable; positioned as effective leader
Ilhan Omar
Accused of immigration fraud by marrying her brother; alleged involvement in Somali community fraud schemes
JD Vance
Made claims about Ilhan Omar's immigration fraud; discussed as potential 2028 presidential candidate
Marco Rubio
Justified Iran military strikes; explained rationale for preemptive action before Israeli strikes
Gavin Newsom
Criticized for progressive policies causing California's decline; wife's parenting advice on gender deconstruction
King Charles III
Criticized for not issuing Easter message while issuing Ramadan message; alleged ties to Qatar funding
Eric Swalwell
Rumored connection to Pam Bondi's firing regarding alleged tip-off about Fangfang files
Lee Strobel
Guest interview scheduled for next episode; former atheist who wrote 'Case for Christ'
Thomas Ellsworth
Opened episode with prayer; discussed faith journey and spiritual perspective on current events
Elon Musk
Discussed drone development threats and military strategy implications in Iran conflict
Trevor Bauer
Mentioned as pursuing strategy to return to Major League Baseball
Katie Porter
Discussed as potential California gubernatorial candidate; praised for media presence and policy articulation
Pierce Morgan
Mentioned as making bet with candidate about election outcomes; praised for marketplace voice
Tommy Robinson
Suggested as potential interview subject regarding UK and European issues
Quotes
"Work like it's up to you, but pray like it's up to God"
Greg (referenced by host)Early in episode during faith discussion
"To whom much is given much is required"
Host (Vinnie)During discussion of responsibility and success
"The only reason we get upset at the boat is because of the people that are driving the boat"
Host (Vinnie)During empty boat theory discussion
"Politics is a very nasty game, guy. It's not for everybody"
Host (Patrick Bet-David)Discussing Pam Bondi's firing
"We're not killing their people. They're killing their own people"
Adam (co-host)During Iran military strategy discussion
Full Transcript
today. I haven't worn a pink shirt. God knows for how long. Vinnie, literally, I can't think of the last of my war pink shirt. Tom, you got a nice purple shirt and a purple tie on. Adam's all black. Elon all black. Vinnie all black. The rest of us add a little bit of color. Rob, what do you got on? What's Easter weekend, right? Hello. Rob's got a little bit of blue on. So is pink the color for Easter? Is that the color? I don't know. Pink and purple. Purple. For Easter, but I just kind of think about some of the colors. For those of you guys that got big plans this weekend, if you're a follower of the old philosopher, Joe Biden, I know you guys are going to be doing Easter with these potatoes because it's like the woke thing to do and I respect you guys. But those of you guys that are going to do the traditional way and celebrate the event that happened at 9am, which Vinnie is going to tell us right now in a minute why we do what we do today. And we got a lot of stories to get into a lot of them. Trevor Bauer is looking like he's got a strategy of how to get into the major league baseball and there's some fans here that want to root them on and I message him yesterday. I'm excited to see what happens with him. The Santis is making some big moves. Pam Bondi just got fired yesterday. Reports of Tulsi maybe next. Todd Blanche was on Fox yesterday talking about was there. The reason for it is because of how maybe Pam Bondi and Swalwell back in the days, you know, was something tipped off and he said no, I think Jesse asked the question. Elon's got some thoughts on that. Canada, we have to talk about the story today that Canada believes, you know, talking about the Bible where maybe some of the stories in there that are against LGBTQ Bible maybe considered hate speech and they're at the final stages of what's going to be happening with that and then a bridge in Iran on its way to Karaj got hit and I know this bridge because my dad and I would drive on this bridge to the place he worked at at a factory in Karaj in his Jeanne card that he had which we'll play the clip and we'll talk about that eight people were killed and many, many injured. I think the number is 95 wounded could be a little bit higher now as the reports are getting more and more the bullets with Charlie Kirk and we have to talk about that because we haven't touched on that yet. And then Erica Kirk Druski, did we ever talk about that on the podcast at all? Have we touched that story? I don't think we have we'll touch that story. And then oil prices if you look at it right now, it went all the way up to 112, 113, 114 yesterday, and then got back down to 101 it is back up to 112 again today. I know Tom's got some thoughts to say about that and on top of that, you know, one of the astronauts was asked about how do you feel as a black man? And his answer is beautiful. It's what we need more in America today. I want to play it for you. And then aside from that, let me see what else I got here that I'm tracking a number that came in with the mass exit is California I want to address that we didn't do it the other day. Trump's approval rating on economy hits a new low according to CNN we have to show that because typically we show the good we got to show the bad as well. When it happens. And then what else we got here we got a couple of the Christie Noem's husband, cross dressing, Vinny's really interested in that because you know, when you have stories like that, you have to know guy like Vinny all he thinks about is sketches. Yep. So we were honestly like we were pardoned. I thought it wasn't a good idea. Tom brought up this idea saying why don't we all do the podcast today with balloons? Yeah, I said, I think it's inappropriate. I have them in the end and eventually after a long conversation together, he agreed. And so we're not going to be doing it. But don't be surprised if a sketch is coming soon with Vinny. And that may be coming soon. And by the way, she herself answered by she said she was devastated and she was surprised and and what happens we just come up with ideas and I got a filter. No, I love that respect that we listen to the year of solving bigger problems that's just not that big of a problem. It's just balloons but to figure that we'll put we'll figure it out. And then of course, a must today the story that we have to address it's what's going on the the travesty that's going on in Nigeria. We have to touch that story 100%. But before we get started, one of my favorite people that I like to see and hear pray is Thomas Ellsworth. Okay, so Tom today, Good Friday before we start the podcast, I would like to see you lead us with a prayer. Go for it. Thank you very much. Our Lord, we just thank you for this time together and we just pray peace upon the nation upon the world. And Lord, we come to you on this very special day for those in the Christian tradition. This is Friday. This is Good Friday with the crucifixion of Christ. And we all know in our hearts today, because we have the path of history that Friday is here, but Sunday is coming. And we just thank you for that opportunity to to be reverent this weekend. I pray for calmness and peace among the people. I pray for encouragement to people. But most of all, I pray that there is a sense of humanness that comes back to people reaching out to neighbors and turning down the tone of dialogue in the name of Good Friday and maybe finding the humanness and compassion and community that is in all of us. And we ask that your Holy Spirit be here and guide us in that. And we thank you so much in the Lord's name. Amen. Amen. Amen. Thank you, Tom. Well done, Tom. Tomorrow, the interview with Lee Strobel, Case for Christ, goes out tomorrow morning. And we had a very, very good conversation together. He's on my neck right now as well. But very, very good conversation. He was an atheist for 25 years. I was an atheist for 20, 28 years. I was an atheist for 25 years. And he explained why which relationship in the family leads to sometimes men being atheists. And you just have to see this processing that we had together was fascinating. I didn't know you were that atheist that long. Who? Me? You? 25 years. 25 years I was an atheist. A vocal atheist? Oh, I did not believe in anything. I got kicked out of Bible study. I got kicked out of Bible school in in Iran. My mom would have to come pick me up and the pastor would say that we can't have this kind of class no more. So right after school, I would be playing outside. They say you can't come in class. They wouldn't even let me get into class because of my position. This was in LA in Iran when I live in Iran in Iran. Yeah, you have a hard time believing them. When I come here, my parents got a divorce. So the whole thing for me was just a bunch of BS. I don't need it. Wow. January 21st of 04. My life changed. And the rest is history is I don't fear anything. But my God, I fear God. I can't even explain to you where that level of fear comes from. He's changed my life the other day. Me, Jen and Vinny are sitting down. I think it was yesterday, we're having a conversation together on how much this life makes no sense to me. How amazing of a life we have the amount of things we have to be grateful for. I was reading the story this morning, and I want to get into the stories we will. And I was reading the story this morning. It was it's it's a story called the empty boat theory. I don't know if you've heard about this empty boat theory. Have you heard about this empty? No, the empty boat theory is a story about imagine you're going in a boat, Tom. Tom, imagine you're going in a boat. I know, Rob, don't put the story up. Just put it aside. Imagine you're going in a boat. And while you're going in this boat, all of a sudden another boat hits you. What's your immediate reaction? What the heck is going on? What are you doing? You stupid? You're bold? You're driving crazy? Unless if no one's in that boat. If no one's in that boat, who are you upset at? Nobody? Nobody happened. So the only reason we get upset at the boat is why other people that are driving the guy that's in the boat to say it's your fault. Why did you do this? But sometimes we have to just kind of be like, dude, we don't know the story of whatever this individual's gone through in their life. We don't have a clue what this person's doing. You know, sometimes a lot of commentary will come in. And even when you're talking to the guys in Jubilee and these kids are calling you out and they send all this up, they're trying to get under your skin. Rage baiting is a business model to 100% a business model today. So you have to either sit there. And when somebody is saying something to you saying, if this was an empty boat, what would my reaction be to this kid be to this person be to this man? We have to have that debate. We have to have the argument on the right topics. But also at the same time, for me, when it comes down to faith, you know, this this whole thing of what God has done, every single day I live my life, I can't believe the life I'm living. I cannot believe it. It's an amazing gift. It's an amazing opportunity we all have your relationships, the challenges, the good, the bad sometimes, you know, you're going a million miles an hour. And you don't want to take a time out. Sometimes God will do in his own time out. He says, you don't want to take the time out of any? No problem. No problem, buddy. Yeah, I'm going to schedule that time out for you. Go ahead. Here you go. Here's your time out and then boom. And you have nothing going on. It happened to me last weekend when we had the time out. It's maybe we'll have a conversation. One question. Yeah, I think, you know, in honor of Eastern, it's also the same week has passed over at a very poignant conversation with my friend's dad is basically like a rabbi. I want to ask you what percentage of your success and it's crazy life that you've had and all these accolades, amazing things. Do you owe to yourself? And do you owe to the man upstairs? 100% God. I'll tell you it's 100% God. And I'll tell you why because I'll explain it to you. Listen. It's funny. I'm talking to one of my friends who was my groomsman at my wedding. And we had a following out. We were supposed to start a company together. He and I and last minute he decided not to and you know, it's that relationship that's being built. The guy that meant toward him was a guy named Greg. Greg used to say work like it's up to you, but pray like it's up to God. Right? So for me, I work like everything is on me. But if I tell you the amount of miracles that happened, and everything that we've done, I don't control that. I don't take credit for that. The people that accidentally came into my life that led to like Dudley, me going to church and Dudley introduced me to three people, two out of the three that introduced me one as Tom Ellsworth, one as Matt Sopala. You know, no, I have a very hard time. It's I think it's arrogant to take credit for all of that. In my opinion, I'm this is not this is how I live my life. And yeah, we you know, to me, 100% God. Yeah, you know, I sit there. I'm like Dylan, I haven't a conversation together. I'm like, you know, if this wasn't to happen, I would have never met you. What do you mean? If this single event doesn't happen, you and I never meet. We don't have this meet. You know, sometimes we don't even know what's going on. Like, you know, story I told the other day about one of our friends who, you know, their fourth kid came out not the healthiest. And you know, I'm always encouraging people to have four plus kids. And so they call me and I watched the way they handle them. So I was so impressed by these guys. But I had a call with them a week or two weeks ago. And I said, I said, you have no idea what role this kid is going to play to teach a level of sensitivity and awareness to your older three kids that one of them one day is going to be a president. And the reason why that kid became a president is because the youngest child. We don't have the answer to some questions. And by the way, some of the answers to questions we're not going to have for decades, for decades, decades, we're not going to have answers to these questions. So answer question to me, it's 100% him. The only I don't want to say pushback, I'm not going to push back against God is some of it has to be on you. Like the conversation I had with my friend's father was everyone's saying it's Passover. Last supper, apparently Jesus was celebrating Passover Peshach. And everyone's basically saying Brochashan, thank God, thank God. And he looks to me, he goes, No, thank you. I said, what? Because it's on you. It's on you to do the things. It's on you to get up every day. It's on you to live your life. And then God, when he sees you doing the right things, he gives you the extra oomph. Right? You know, that's the famous phrase man play. You know why I say 100%. You know, I say, I want to understand that. Yeah. Okay. Tell me out of the four trillion, you know, runners or swimmers. You think I did that? No, you think from, you know, all these other guys I was competing with when my mom and dad handled their business 48 years ago. Twice. And all of a sudden, I'm the one that's chosen you think that's me doing? No, I think this is the greatest miracle we have called life. And I I I want to believe that it's 100% of him. And I'm going to do my part. You see the reason why we're doing what we're doing today. And again, I don't want to say I wasn't expecting to go along on the story. I want to get into the story because the audience is probably expecting it. To me, the only reason I'm doing this is my life would be a lot more peaceful. If we just took the check, we made a lot of money last year, every we make a lot of money. Life is very good for us just purely on investment. If I never work for the rest of my life, my wife and I will live an incredible life with our kids with all of that. I truly believe today, there's something very weird going on in the world. And I don't fully know what it is. I don't know if we're going to know it fully right off the bat. It may take five, 10, 15, 20 years, maybe 30, 40 years to find out. But I do believe God is expecting us to step up and fight and make the right argument and challenge many positions that we may have and set the right example. Because a lot of people need good example, students are very, very hard to find. It's a very, very hard to find today. And I take that as a responsibility because you know, to whom much is given much is required. I think sometimes we want to say no, I did it. No, I did it. I talked to one of my employees the other day at the event. And I said, so we had this little bit of a friction moment. And I said, why are you here? Why are you even working here? He says, because I really like the people. I said, you really like the people. I said, he says, yes. I said, what about the vision of the company? Do you believe in the vision? He says, I think you're going to do something very special in your life. I said, you think I'm going to do it? He says, yes, I don't think I'm going to do it. He says, why not? I said, I think we're going to do it. I said, you think I run the podcast by myself? You think I'm the one that you don't you don't see the team behind that's cutting and doing all the stuff, the camera stuff. You don't think behind closed doors, the engineers are doing what they're doing with my neck with higher metrics with calibration. You think the event that we just put together at Celeste was just me. It was the greatest event we put together for sales leadership. It was the most incredible event. How many hands are touching the behind closed doors? So to me, sometimes we really want to believe it's me. I did it and all the stuff, dude, pump the brakes. Don't get me wrong. Where there's, you know, there's no vision that people perish. Yeah, I understand there's got to be the visionary. I understand there's got to be somebody that takes on the burden a little bit more than the rest. That's what comes with the territory out of conversation with a guy that you and I were talking about two days ago, who's kind of going through challenge and times I don't want to mention the name I called him and I said, Hey, you chose this. And I want to encourage you to continue doing this because God's using you. Yeah, sometimes there's burden that comes with certain positions we take in life, husband, father, business owner, influencer, a voice, an example, what comes with that burden? What comes with wealth burden? Handle it accordingly. Don't get out of control. Don't be reckless. Be grateful. Have some perspective for the people that have positively helped your life. And sometimes we freak anybody I've seen have a fall. Forgot that. Anybody I've ever seen who went like this. And there's a massive fall in this moment. They think they did it all themselves. Big mistake. So anyways, I don't again. Thank you God. Tom amazing prayer. Vinnie, which you said previous to us getting into it and just watching Vinnie late when he's talking about his faith. Every time Vinnie opens his mouth, I'm learning now. Every time he goes into his faith and he's telling stories and that was not the case two years ago. Vinnie today when he gets into faith, get your paper and pen out because he's probably going to teach you something. You know, he's almost become like a little pastor on this podcast and he doesn't even know it. So anyways, having said that, let's get right into the stories. Guys, if you're watching this, you're part of the 51% that watches and doesn't subscribe. Take a quick moment. Press that subscribe button. We're getting very close to 3 million. We'd like to take this thing to 5 million with your help. We can make that happen. Having said that, let's get into the first story. I think the first story I want to get into is what happened with Iran yesterday. A major bridge was hit. And this bridge that we're talking about is a bridge from Tehran on the way to Karad. Rob, is this it? Yes, sir. Go for it, Rob. Go and show this. When the tax year ends on the 5th of April, valuable tax allowances may be lost simply because people left things too late. Thankfully, Vanguard is here to help you make well considered decisions, not rushed ones. Their tax year end hub is full of clear guidance, helpful tools and timely reminders to help you understand your allowances and give your investments the best chance to grow. Search Vanguard Investor to learn more. When investing, your capital is at risk. Tax rules apply. I've been over that bridge God knows how many times. Really? Oh my god. What would you compare it to? Like Brooklyn or George Washington? Well, no, but the point is when my dad would go to Karash to work, you would go from Tehran. So you're driving back and forth and you know, Karaj, you know the way to put Karaj, Karaj is like, imagine you live in LA and Karaj is Palm Springs. It's like a, you know, two hour drive with two hour drive in his Giants. I don't know what the drive is in a Mercedes or a Porsche, but in his Giants, he would go 45 miles an hour. So it's probably like an hour and 10 minute drive, hour and 20 minute drive. But that happened yesterday, 95 wounded. Rob, how many killed? I saw number eight. Has that been updated yet? Let me take a look. Last I saw was eight as well. Yeah, last I saw is eight. Tom, what do you think's going on with this? Because when you're hitting something like this, strategically, what do you think is behind this? What do you think is behind this attack here? I think they're they're upping it and hitting these kind of infrastructure targets are just trying to break the back of the regime. But this regime doesn't care about its own people. It was happy to slaughter 30, 42,000, you know, and then they claimed only 3100, which is horrifying in and of itself. No, no, no, we didn't do 31,000. It was only 3100. Really, that's it. More than 911. So that that's fine with you. And so I think they're trying to break the back of the regime. And they're and they're trying to hit key infrastructure. And I think it's also, there's another underlying thing here that, you know, I'm not on board with, but I think this may be part of the strategy. They're trying to get, I think the people to rise up and to say we want this done. We this has got to be done. We've got to rise up to I think that's where it's going. But it this is so different from Venezuela. We only went in and got Maduro. We didn't hit any civilian targets wanted to leave the country intact and all the resources intact. So the people of Venezuela could come back up and and live tomorrow with working power and water, right? There is all that talk about Venezuela. Remember this? And so now this is like, wow, it's civilian targets. But that's what I think, Pat, I think there's two side of motivation going on here. And it I don't like it. And by the way, this this is a there's a couple bridges there. This is a this was a US took responsibility for this one. Yeah, US just came out and said, we take responsibility for this bridge. That was attacked. And the reason why it was an important one is because there's ongoing like there's transport that happens from this bridge to different places with their drone development. Elon, why are you out with this? So I think the drone development issues a massive issue which goes much deeper than just this, we're gonna have to rearrange the way we've historically fought wars. We you know, drones are essentially I hear that too. Do you guys hear about but the recording doesn't hear so you're good. Alright, drones are essentially the new ID. They have to do whatever they can to get rid of them. And but the the optics of attacking civilian infrastructure. This is a this is an interesting war in the sense that the biggest threat to the US in this war is not just what's happening in Iran, but the general morale of Americans toward the war itself. And as Americans see these kind of things, they tend to get more and more and more distasteful about our actions in the region. So I'm very much on on Tom side on this. It's clearly an escalation. They're clearly going in harder. I think they want this to end quicker. And I think they're in a rock and a hard place and they're starting to do whatever they can if this does limit Iran's drone capabilities for whatever reason, if that was the intent behind it, I think that's the single most absolute necessary thing that the US can do right now. Military bases can be swarmed, which as we're learning, we don't have very good defenses against them. And it's just an incredibly costly thing, but no one wants to see human life being lost, civilians, infrastructure being targeted. And again, I just morale to stay high. I don't know if this I think the people of Iran are screwed. And it's gonna get ugly. When Trump laid out his mission for what they wanted to do. The ancillary effects were let's help the people of Iran. Let's maybe have a regime change. Those are all icing on the cake. I think that they laid out what their military objectives did they not they said Rubio came on set it. We're gonna eliminate their air force. We're gonna eliminate their navy. We're gonna do fund their terror network. We're gonna stop them from going nuclear all cleaning up. You know, there's like you clean up your house internally, or clean up outside your house. I think United States is basically saying, clean up outside your house, stop attacking your neighbors, stop attacking the Gulf States, stop attacking Israel, stop shouting death to America. But whatever the hell you sickos want to do inside your house. That's on you. You want to kill your own people like you do. Like you do so often. Unfortunately, that's on you. That sucks. Nobody wants death. Nobody's here saying we want war. We want death. The people that want death are the IRGC. They're killing their own people. So someone's gonna pay the price for Iran's disgusting ideology. Unfortunately, it's going to be their own people. Yeah, but I and Adam, you just saying that not from like just because I'm hearing it bothers me so much, because this whole thing was about the people, those thousands of people that on their own, it wasn't some BS. I saw her so people are there trying to site no no no. The Iranian people said after 47 years, enough is enough. And they went there with no freaking weapons, bats and sticks and stuff like that. And they fought the freaking military. Okay, and the world finally saw it till they cut off the internet. Okay, we fight the military. Are they doing a peaceful protest? No, no, well, it turned into that. And then finally, but I saw videos of the IRGC, because Iranians hiding their apartments were recording the IRGC running and civilians driving over them. That's the only weapon that they had. You know, I mean, so what my and my thing is this, Adam, the the and I'm gonna keep going back to when I hate to repeat myself. I was under the impression like millions of Americans that it was for the people. We all thought it was for the people. I thought the nuclear capability was destroyed months ago. By the way, and see more her, Pat, the journalists who by the way, he predicted the Iran nuclear bombing back then he predicted the Nord Stream. He's the first one that that talked about the Nord Stream pipeline. He said Trump's speech was a ground war announcement. He said Trump was telling a quote, telling the world that the ground war is on as of today. Navy SEALs, Army Rangers are either en route or they're going to be in zones within striking range to the Strait of Hormuz and saying that he could have up to 50,000 fighters ready to clear the Strait and dig out and rich uranium from tunnels under the nuclear sites. And that's what he's saying. And by the way, now we just killed I Oh, I'm sorry, seriously injured Pat Kamal Harazi, who was a lead negotiator, the lead negotiator, they killed his wife. He's almost gonna die. We're taking out people like that. The optics on that are terrible. The optics are horrible. And then this leads to my thing, Pat. And I'm sorry, guys, I keep going there. When when we're like, why do we start this? I get it. And I'm with my mom and dad, our families are from there. It was for the people. But when Rubio said, Hey, the reason we hit first, because Israel said we're gonna do it without you. So we went first, because we want to protect our interests. Those 13 soldiers that died, our soldiers, those weren't ground troops. Those are Americans stationed at those bases dead. Because because think about it, Marco Rubio, Marco Rubio said, Hey, Israel said they're going so we had to go. So we were you understand that there's a very sad, sad, sad reality about the situation with Iran, which is uncomfortable no matter what, which is that they they did lie about their nuclear proliferation. That was you're right, we were told that we destroyed the base, the with bunker busters, then they lied about their intermediate range. Last summer, we're talking about the hit last summer. Yeah, the 52 is flying over for the first time supporting Israel. Yeah. Which was a very clean, strategic military operation that went well. But then what we're seeing now, in terms of just what Iran has shown the world, it has shown the world it's willing to enrich uranium past 60%. The only country in the entire world with non nuclear weapons doing that. And it's also lying to the UN watchdogs. Then what what do we see next? What's the biggest threat to America from Iran? Arguably not the development of their nuclear power. The real threat is the development of their long range ballistic missile systems, which they lied about. They lied about it. This is a country that's yelling death to America, which is enriching uranium well beyond any utilitarian purpose and has now lied about developing long range ballistic missiles and proved it by literally launching them. So as much as we say Israel as much as we say this, we do not in America have a national infrastructure to defend against ballistic missiles like Israel does. It's a much smaller landmass. They've been exposed to it for decades. And what we are in a position to do right now is either fight today, I believe and I may be wrong about this or fight in the future when they have this. Okay, but here's my question to though, when we went in on the summer and we bond their nuclear spots, why at that moment just take out everything, go forward then why wait now? Why wait this long? Because I'm telling you from a military standpoint, this Oh, now we just found out we know everything that's happening over there, but we have satellite, we have imagery, the United States is the we're gangsters, bro, we know everything. So the one thing that bothers me is let me finish my point, please is we know where everything is we know where to bomb. Why in that moment didn't you just take it out? Because now when you say it's for the people, now the same people that he's saying, they're screwed. I hate that attitude, because they're sitting there. Or you're saying they didn't take it out like when they went and shot the nuclear. Go I'll let me ask you a question. Yeah. So let's just say we if you remember, and I'm trying to recollect what happened 24 hours later, there were rumors that said they didn't hit all the sites. Yeah, and it was deep enough. That's right. And then there was some rumors that they did and then Trump came out and said, what? No, we hit it. It's destroyed. It's gone. Yeah. So here's the question. What if we didn't? And what if he knew we didn't, and they still have it? And if you got that intel, you have two choices, publicly announced that you screwed up and now successful mission is bad. Can't do and you have to control PR. Yeah. Number two, if you know we didn't go deep enough. What's your recommendation, Mr Vinnie? What should we do? Strike him again, obviously. Okay, so then that's the part that we don't have access to that. And I agree with that because I'm not in those rooms. That's the point. Yeah. If that's the case, knowing Trump is very careful on how he controls PR. You think Trump's going to come out and say we made a mistake. We didn't go deep. That'll never happen in a million years versus you're gonna say we're gonna go back and get the job done. So you have to assume that that could be I agree one of the possibilities. I just want to make an analogy here because what I want from you is clarity and because what I know, what I love about you is your passion. What I'm trying to understand is all right, so you're for you're against it. You want to help the people? They never said that the number one objective was to help the people. That's a that was my product. Can we find out Rob? What was the don't hang there? Don't hang those young boys. I have your back. That was the first one that I heard at him and it wasn't about that. That was before they announced their military campaign. They've come out and said, here's our objective. And we're still being like, what's the objective? They said Rubio said it. Trump said it. Destroy their military capabilities. Defund their terror networks. Eliminate the nuclear threat. Regime change is a bonus. Helping the people is a bonus. So here's my side. The reality of the situation is an Iran post war without regime change results in inevitably the same thing we see again. It's like maybe 10 to 15 years. Maybe even more. Even more. Oh my god. Here's like, can I just make a very simple analogy? Tear it apart. Get to it. Iran is a cancer on the world. The Islamic regime of Iran is a cancer on the world. I agree. How do you negotiate with cancer? Let me give you an example. You know the story with my ex girlfriend. Well, you don't kill you don't kill the negotiator that you don't do that. You don't know what you're doing right now. Okay, hear me out. You're asking why did we do it? We stopped. We came back. Cancer can come back. I know my ex girlfriend got cancer leukemia. Oh my god. This is crazy. What are we gonna do? She's young. She's healthy. She's beautiful. Oh my god. What are we gonna do? Kimo? Are we not? Are we gonna do a holistic? What are we gonna do? Finally, the doctor said this. You have to do chemo. The only way to live and survive is to do chemo. Here's one thing you need to know. The chemo could the cancer could come back, but that's something we'll deal with at the time. What's my point? The Islamic regime of Iran is a cancer on the world. I agree. You don't defeat cancer by being like, Hey, can we be friends? Can we negotiate? Can you please be nice? It's coming to kill you. Whether it's killing you today or killing you next week or killing you next year. It's going to kill you. Yeah, but what about the body at this point? And you don't just kick like what about the person, the people, Adam? You can't just go in because the mission wasn't what they said that the mission was going to be. It's confusing. What you're doing is is is negotiating how to handle cancer. You have to eliminate it. That's it. There's no further conversation other than we have to remove the cancer. But Adam, you can't you can't abandon all ethics at the argument of we have to destroy this thing. You become your ethics. These people have no ethics. I understand that. I'm trying to kill you. But there's still a there's still so I understand both sides of this argument. Sometimes there's not a we're not killing their people. They're killing. Let them tell you. I just I believe that sometimes there isn't a happy ending, right? So and I understand that argument that there's a terrible situation. You're trying to find a solution to it. Neither solution is great. That's the situation we're in with Iran. It's hard for people to accept that reality, but the the end reality here also is you cannot come into a situation appealing to the American public. It's just a reality of politics and wars, despite what people believe, do need political backing. You do need your population to be behind you and you can't come into a war expressing certain things like you're going to take care of the Iranian people that you're not going to allow hangings that you're going to do these things and then leave them abandoned. It's very much by the way akin to what we saw in Afghanistan with Biden leaving and then you know seeing the massive tragedy that happened there. You just can't do those kind of things even if you can get away with it. I asked you this I asked this question yesterday with Richard Werner and Luke Orman is is is Trump in a position right now where there's no way he can win because if he gets out you know hey Iran won and guess how Iran's going to do in the public eye. They're always going to say well we know Iran won underestimated Iran won Iran won Iran won Iran won and that guy the foreign minister the guy that we always see on tv at at at Ghorchi at Ghorchi Rob at boss he's going to be a hero okay so that's one number two you pursue it you finish it you think it's going to be done in a few weeks no so then that's going to be a long war so what what is win for him so he's stuck in a a rock in a hard place even just with oil prices I don't think there's one in to be honest what I will well what I'll answer is sometimes it's okay to be hated today to to realize down the path you were right I agree and I think that's his situation do you think he has the do you think he has the patience to be able to do that knowing the amount of pressure he has with World Cup and midterms around the corner I think Trump is the kind of guy who will not just back out just due to his ego alone I so now if if if he leaves today if he leaves today and Iran goes back to what they're doing okay Iran is always going to say we defeated Trump they're going to say that forever yep we defeated Trump and there's nothing you can say about it he's not going to be okay with that number two Americans if he continues if the gas prices continue this way till April 15th yeah and we had Luke Orman and Richard Warner on if this continues this way now you have a global recession take place now this becomes COVID 2.0 like in its own way now you know Richard who is the godfather of quantitative easing comes out and says don't be surprised if there's talks of quantitative easing in the next few months so imagine now the government comes out and says we got to bail ourselves out for this war Hexat asks for two hundred billion dollars they do quantitative easing and they take out a trillion trillion and a half and that's going to be you know going buying bad debt from banks and trying to get that money to get back into the market place so they can manipulate the market to be okay again where is the win here where's the wind time what do you see the win here I don't think there is and I think people have to look back at history and understand what happened here because Bill Clinton screwed up he screwed up on North Korea in 1994 there's a very very large body of work that was written about this called the Seoul hostage problem Seoul South Korea was held hostage because North Korea had such a stockpile of conventional weapons that they threatened to rain them down on Seoul if we attacked I think it was called the Yongbyon Yongbyon something like that a reactor and Clinton was told by the military if we don't hit and we don't do something here North Korea becomes a nuclear power and it's run by a crazy man you can't do this a it gets what he has in common he doesn't care about his own people he'll let him starve to death he'll torture gee sounds like the IRGC and so Bill Clinton backed off in 1994 and we ended up with a nuclear North Korea that's what happened Japan was pissed about it they knew there was going to be issues because they saw themselves as the second victim they said it's not just going to be South Korea if he gets a nukes it's now going to be us because we are they they referred to themselves Japan called themselves the Western target because they're seen as a Western country he said listen they're going to hit us because when they hit us it's like hitting the U.S. economy because of all the trade with Japan so what North Korea it's a point you're making Tom I don't want you to get off the point North Korea is to Japan what Iran is to Israel that's right that a fair assessment right and Iran is dropping conventional weapons on Qatar why are they dropping them on their Arab brethren no they're not they're dropping them on people who are half friends or friends with the USA trying to get those friends to speak up and say Trump make him stop stop stop stop stop what you're doing that's what they're doing they stockpiled the drones and the conventional to give them the shield of deterrence so they could finish their nuclear ambitions and it goes now it goes to like this you know I'm and you know comments are going to hit me about a pack and everything like this I am not on that page and not on that conspiracy page at all with me at all but I will tell you this give every every weapon imaginable to Iran Israel's gone in a week give every weapon imaginable to Israel nothing happens take every weapon away from Israel Israel's gone in a week so you just play the chess game out in the Middle East and see what the outcome is here and what the what they're trying to do I hate this war I hate what's happening I hate the loss of life but we need to look back and the reason we have a crazy man with nukes in North Korea is because the Clinton administration led by Bill he's got to own it and the people around him chickened out so this is where this is where I go do Tom and this is the the sequencing of what you said and what you said and the question asked leads me to this sometimes you know what you have to do as a leader sometimes you sit there as a leader you look at everybody and you have this camp that doesn't agree with this decision and you have this camp that doesn't agree with that decision and this is the worst place to be as a leader yes worst place to be as a leader you have to sit there and you know what to do turn off the phone Tom okay turn off the computer turn off everybody get the hell away from everybody and ask yourself you were selected you were elected to be the president with all the information you have right now what do you think is a right thing to do not what the right thing is to do politically to win midterms not what the right thing to do is financially that's going to benefit your pockets what is the right thing for you to do long term as a president there's only one person that has the answer to this question and it's him yeah he's in such a cornered place as a leader with the amount of burden he's carrying today and he knows what Clintons did with Korea North Korea he knows the history of what other people did in the this he knows that Obama give him a you know how many how how how much of cash that none of it went to what they said they were going to do he knows the reason why Iran became so powerful is because of Obama he knows that he knows that this whole thing that why Iran is able to stand tall and you know push people around is because Obama funded this war indirectly from whatever the year was 08 I don't know what you're 1.7 billion he know he know funded what we're saying exactly knows all of this stuff he knows it he knows all of it so guess what what do you want to do here's the risk make the decision move forward this is not the place like you know Humberto we're talking and and what was it hey Rob bad news bad news is what in the afternoon good news in the morning you know the whole thing with the good news bad news Humberto you want to text me that conversation that we were having did I said correctly on the on the formatting right okay so guess what he can't be the PR guy right now you can't think apprentice Trump right now yeah you can't think Twitter Trump right now you have to think general commander in chief Trump right now that's how you have to think and I'm based on that go ahead by the way whatever you choose to do whatever Trump chooses to do guess what's going to happen he'll be criticized whatever there is nothing he can do right here by the media and the tensions being high however once it's solved and we move on history books will write about it yeah and by the time he gets credit for this or not it'll be 20 years from now he won't be around to be able to read it yeah do you know what I just said when he gets credit for the decision he makes today it'll be 2046 and he'll probably not be alive Bowser is back everyone calm down the Super Mario Brothers can take care of the kingdom let's go this April toad pack our things the galaxy whoa is waiting who is this so some cool dinosaur just shows up and he's now part of the group cool the Super Mario Galaxy movie in cinemas now you know there's two things there that I'll just back that up 100 with Pat is um Harry Truman said um at the height of crisis it was he was a longer statement he made but the quote that gets that it gets repeated by Harry Truman is some questions cannot be answered but they can be decided and I was elected to decide them yeah I I just want to encourage him to get back and say out of all the you know he's a what do you think what do you think what do you think guy this is not the what do you think time this is the time what do you think yeah and I yeah go do it can I can I just touch on Tom's points are really quick about a nuclear Iran how it's different than a nuclear uh North Korea it's fundamentally different number one you're looking at a nuclear Iran will lead to a nuclear Saudi Arabia all the countries in the region will want to have nuclear power and then you have a bunch of they feel they have to they will have to be a self-preservation but this points to the next big issue which is different than North Korea which is that these people don't have a sense of self-preservation so it's it's a different ideology I try and make people understand this as much as possible people see a nuclear Iran you see guys out there saying no no they have incentive to not use their nukes actually it's the opposite according to their ideology they have incentive to use their nukes so you can't just look at it and say it's comparable to North Korea because North Korea does have a sense of self-preservation at the least and that's the largest deciding factor in how dangerous you are when you have a world ending weapon so I just think that's something that people have to ultimately say the problem is you can't show you're using conventional weapons to create this this deterrence to give you a blanket and a clouds you can finish your nuclear 100% yes well once those ambitions are done yeah the character of the two bad actors is different yes but it was it's the same problem going in 100% agree with you yeah yes there's an ideology problem they're jihadists but just like in real estate location location location no korea is in the other end of the world nobody was worried about North Korea Iran is in the middle of the world and uh Diego Garcia I went to high school at Diego Garcia apparently that's a base that we share with my brother the UK yeah did they not shoot a missile that way they can hit it is it not also in the range of all of europe so to me it's it's a hostage situation they have the middle east and they have the world hostage and we're saying well what do we want to do with the what the what the terrorists do we what do we want to do with these people and and I just want to reframe one thing I think we're winning like we're having a conversation of like well there's no win situation there's we're going to lose this show me how we're losing respect to the fallen soldiers I mean god bless there's two different victories okay but we're winning right now there's a there's no way that Iran can say that they're winning there's a victory and there's a PR victory PR he's losing and he is so concerned sometimes about PR that it gets him to make the decision so he is he's a guy that pays attention to PR a lot a lot so PR he's is is losing this is I've never seen that this is this is not at the levels of you know there's two things right now that the way they're losing PR it's this and Epstein okay those two but PR wise they're losing they could be winning behind closed doors but on the PR side there's not a winning with this war here well it's not short term in my opinion not short term but long term it's an investment no no if you ever look at look do you have a 401k it's a weird analogy when we use it your 401k you can't touch for 40 years you're not going to see the benefit of it but I look at my 401k that I started when I was dead this is actually you know what's a better analogy Adam is the business you and I are in which is what the life settlements insurance life insurance business this is not a 401k yeah because you know who does life insurance the future generation does it is life insurance for you no I think this is life insurance for American people long term but you never get credit for it until you're dead you're never going to see it short I know that's what I'm getting so what but what I'm saying is everything was and I'm going to move on I don't want to stay on this topic I want to move on to the next over got a lot of good stories to get through what I'm saying is he needs to just go make the decision and stick to it yeah and make your adjustments trust your instinct you're you're gonna have a lot of noise that's coming your way you're not gonna win the PR uh war here you're not you're not gonna win the PR war here you have access to the information make the decision move forward and let the criticism drop and the way this world works stories go they come and go oh yeah they come and go they come and go and then story cycle will change to the next one we get to the next story here that I got Pam Bondi Trump fires man Pam Bondi yesterday lots of stories come out okay a lot of stories so you got Kristi Noem is gone some say because of balloons but whatever Kristi Noem is gone party now Pam Bondi is gone the announcement is made all over the place and there's a lot of stories that are coming out with this Pam Bondi firing there the White House Rob first play the clip on let's play read this one here Pam Bondi's great american patron true lawyer friend who faithfully says attorney general over the past year Pam did a tremendous job overseeing a massive crackdown and crime across this country were murders plummeting to their lows since 1900 we love Pam and she would be transitioning to a much needed important new job in a private sector to be announced at a later date and our deputy attorney general and a very talented respected legal mind Todd Blanche will step in to serve as the acting attorney general while that's being announced Rob there is stories that came out Todd Blanche was asked about the rumors with Eric Swalwell I think you have that clip Rob go for it here's Jesse asking Todd Blanche the question about what's the reasoning for this having to do with her relationship with Eric Swalwell go for it Pam Bondi too but she didn't she didn't give Swalwell heads up on the Fangfang files did she I would not believe that for a second absolutely positively not okay yeah top what do you think so there's a lot of rumors that flow down whenever there's a change in administration here you go it's uh you know it's uh the parlor game of what really happened what was really said what was you know behind it all you know I think the fact that that's being brought up maybe there's some I only give that probably about a 20% credence um if if she did that that would be such a lapse of judgment because it was so high stakes at that time that's like three things can happen and two of them are bad one is nobody finds out about it second Swalwell or somebody talks about it and third somebody on her team talks about it it's like I just I see the rumors I see that because everybody wants a reason Pat right everybody wants okay what's the real reason here she's by the way she's going to a job in the private sector okay you know what do you think happened um honestly I like Pam but I'll tell you objectively uh if I was her manager sitting down there I said Pam you got caught talking in a restaurant about the Epstein files then you had to do this uh this press conference at the front of the White House and then we had leaks and things going on this project just hasn't been handled very good at all I mean I you and I both run businesses and I've been able to sit with you and be a part of your businesses and I've seen where we have to talk with good people about this so you just didn't do a good job there you just didn't get it done I gotta make a change it doesn't mean you hate the person at all it doesn't mean you don't think they'll thrive in some other job and you may help them get that other job but I I think that the Epstein files and what was going on there and just kind of the way that was handled I don't think it was a passing grade and they made a change yeah I think Tom nailed it I think you said it previously the only thing that can really hurt Trump outside of Iran in the economy arguably is the Epstein files I think it's one of the few things that's nonpartisan I think every American citizen wants transparency wants it released and most politicians are fighting against that and Trump came in very strongly on that premise that he's gonna get the information out and we haven't seen it happen and he needs morale now um well I think her getting fired besides everybody else Christy Noem the whole crew this one was the most one that was overdue okay she's had a year and two months to bring actual justice instead we just got tv appearances her yelling in front of congress and anti promises think about this Tommy under Merrick Garland the attorney general under biden in less than a year the department of justice appointed jack smith built 44 federal cases against Trump two major cases expanded January 6 prosecutions prosecuted 1500 people that were just standing there grandmothers that were there with a flag were put in prison okay they didn't love it or hate it that proved that an actual attorney general that cares about that all that cares but does what they're supposed to be doing in that sense fast at scale and force that's what they want to do so the question becomes if he could do it why did bondy spent so much time promising stuff to people like me I'm the base I'm the Trump race has been down with him since 2016 no accountability we've I voted for no Fauci no russia gate no justice to the censorship machine about the government big tech no accountability for marlago the catholic targeting memo the lawfare crowd or the weaponization of the doj and the fbi going to twitter paying the money uh suppressing the hunter biden story and then the biggest thing like you guys said is ebstein that right there and he said he said it first was the biggest like shot in the like what the hell self-inflicted gun gunshot the biggest fumble the biggest fumble you go on camera and you say you have what you say tens of thousands of videos involving kids and this is the most important of this she didn't know she was being recorded so that's when you're saying the truth yeah she's speaking the truth and then when it leaked because of james oakheave she had to come out and say that okay instead you know what we got um ilan we got binders that was the most bothersome thing binders social media content creator may I and it's who received those binders those binders weren't given out to department of justice or given out to congressmen heading up maybe committees or they were going to have hearings they were given to who got them libs of tiktok dc drano yeah uh jack jabs all big yep uh scott pressler all right yeah they give out to influencers yeah yeah we live in the twilight zone yeah why not line up say hey no here's the people that are going to run the hearings and here they go this is a good fire I actually support the firing I think it's the right move and by the way let me tell you I said this yesterday on twitter is you know politics is a very very nasty game guy it's not for everybody I agree one day you're a rock star next day you're a laughing stock and it's uh but it's attractive because it's a contact sport so people want to get into it but guess what this is not going to be a good week for pan bandy she's got to kind of go through it and move on to the next phase and look for the rest of her family's life her grandkids or her family is going to say what my my uh you know pan bandy was the former attorney general go ahead that's history books that's permanently cemented so good for you you did your party went all the way to the top now go do whatever you're going to be doing next but the next move now I wonder what Todd Blanche is going to be doing now so for example Todd Blanche comes in so I have a meeting with them so okay Todd how do we handle now you got it what's your new plan for Epstein what are we going to do it because this is an opportunity for Todd Blanche to do what help Pam Bondi say face and come up with a better approach with Epstein okay so if he comes out and he says hey he's defending Pam Bondi but he also comes out and aggressively moves quickly with certain topics people would be like oh wow so it was Pam Bondi Todd Blanche is moving more assertively it helps the president this could be a good move so I don't know what's going to happen with Todd Blanche I hope he doesn't become a vanilla AG where you come in and you don't really do anything just kind of stay quiet and go under you know radar and nothing really happens Rob is this a clip as well you have from last night so I have to this is Todd Blanche talking about what the Department of Justice is currently focusing on and then I have a separate clip where he's asked if Pam Bondi was fired because of the Epstein let's let's listen to both go go for it I will tell you this you are right this is an important and long overdue objective just today in Los Angeles we had to take down eight individuals who are arrested for allegedly belching over 50 million dollars of intended loss from from our taxpayer monies and yes this includes leadership in state governments our investigations do because guess what they are in many ways the actual conduit they're letting it happen by not doing anything to stop these these these individuals stealing from the American people and so you're going to see this Department of Justice pour all of our heart and soul into into the next one Rob let's go to the next one the Epstein one go for it now the Epstein files uh you'd agree not handled well no and I don't first of all I have never heard President Trump say that the Attorney General was anything that happened to her had anything to do with the Epstein files and so look the Epstein files has been a a saga that's lasted for the entire for the past year and and what happened when the President signed the Transparency Act is that the Department of Justice has now released all the files with respect to the Epstein saga and the Attorney General Bondi and I appeared in front of Congress voluntarily a couple weeks ago to answer any questions they had we have made every single congressman senator available to come and see any document redacted unredacted that they want and so I think that to the extent that the Epstein files was a part of the of the past year of this Justice Department it will should not be a part of anything going forward okay well I have one more clip I sent Rob about you want to if he's gonna be vanilla or how he's gonna be I just sent it to Rob Pat you guys have to understand that he's out of all people that's Trump's old lawyer he's the one that went to interview Galeigh Maxwell and then she got moved to a more pushy posh prison cell or whatever you want to call it but wait she came in after uh Acosta Alex Acosta in Florida her connection to Epstein is so intertwined she wasn't there for him but after he was gone she came in they didn't pursue anything for Epstein if you want to know Pat his attitude towards it look at the question they ask and look at his response and you guys tell me what you think he's going to be pursuing after this go ahead and have one thing to say um you said this is the end of the Epstein uh of your review of the Epstein files so just to clarify or is the public going to learn the identities of the men who abused the girls with the information that you're releasing and if not why not and then I have a quick follow you just baked in an assumption into your question that I have never said and I don't know to be true is the public going to learn about men that abuse these girls like what does that mean what do you mean what I mean look dude well I mean there the men who abused the young women through Epstein's um through Epstein we said in July um and it remains as true today as it was in July um if we had information we meeting the Department of Justice about men who abused women we would um we would we would prosecute them no right we talked about the work that we're doing that's why I said that there's that I said this earlier he's built that you know but he's so that because they're all connected and I want to say this Pat FYI Pam Bondi is supposed to go in front of the House Oversight Committee on April 14th because of Epstein files number one number two Thomas Massey came out and he congratulated Todd Blanche and he said now this is yesterday you have 30 days to release the rest of the files so that's a lot because there's over three million left he goes uh I'm sorry you have 30 days to release the files before becoming criminally liable for failure to comply with the Epstein files transparency act we're being gas lit bro you know what's interesting you said earlier today you feel like something spiritual is going on in society this to me is the ultimate you want it you want to look at the most evil disturbing thing and it's done by people of all the power all the control we're sitting here we feel helpless and if you're going to attack anything destroy anything you would destroy God's most beautiful creation children and that's it's just I don't know I can't well I get very emotional sometimes when I want makes me very upset I don't know I really it's one of the things that drives me crazy oh by the way the the you can replace Pam Bondi Todd 50 different times the the american people are not going away with Epstein I really can replace anybody you want it's not going away Adam I don't want to go Epstein I just I want to stay here on Trump look I figured out kind of how Trump operates everyone kind of speculates how Trump operates you tell me if you agree or disagree with this you've heard of the hot crazy matrix never heard of that the hot crazy matrix hotter the girl the hotter the girl the crazier she is you got to figure out is she crazy is she not she hot then you kind of figure out what there goes from there okay you've heard of the Navy Seal trust versus skill matrix the Navy Seal want people to trust they obviously want high skilled but trust is more important than skill yep what's the Trump matrix in my opinion it's loyalty and competence the number one thing is are you with me or against me if you're not loyal that's it there's no place in this administration for you but are you competent are you actually good at your job do you have skill are you talented are you going to help me win we're going to win so big so to me everyone is judged on this matrix are you loyal or disloyal are you basically screwing things up or doing a good job and that's how Trump operates to me loyalty for Trump will get you in the door but competence will keep you in the house just like in a dating situation to use the hot crazy matrix beauty will keep you in the don't get you in the door inner beauty of being a good person will keep you in the house so to me Trump is looking at everybody JD Vance Rubio RFK Bondi Kristi Noem goes are they loyal are they with me and are they doing a good job and to me if you want to question Pam Bondi do you think Pam Bondi was loyal think she was pretty damn loyal I think her flaw was competence JD Vance in another capacity is he loyal maybe maybe there's some questions I don't know is he competent yeah it seems so yeah that's how you judge Trump remember his first pick his first pick was Matt Gates yeah and the Senate told that there were 64 senators that said we will never vote for Matt Gates so it was impossible confirmation journey general you're talking for AG right he was the one Trump wanted a pit bull he wanted a pit bull to go out and prosecute the people that had illegally prosecuted him and to go right those wrongs those were real things you look at all the things that he went through and I'm not a cheerleader for him forget his name is Trump just go down the list and say a sitting president and then a citizen after he left office was subjected to all of this and how much of it turned out to be wrong yeah why wouldn't you want it but people say I think he wanted a pit bull but he got a chow out on Pam Bondi no I didn't say that you just said that I did I would never I inferred that what I what I what I would say what I would say is the following there is there's difference between competency I would add one more thing to it to that trust competency and I would add one other one it's media prepared and she she failed in the media side she did when she went into hearing that was not good when she didn't realize when you're in the market and pee I have to always assume cameras are on you and you know people asking a question at a coffee shop media trained you have to know you have to be bulletproof with secret sauce you know I always explain the circles you got people that are in different circles and you have the smallest circle where you open up and talk about anything and you'll always test the circle by dropping stuff that nobody else will notice if it leaks out and like ah that guy's I can't trust that guy and going out so you have to make sure who you trust the loyalty part is there but it's also not bragging about the intel that you have some people want to brag about the intel that they have some people want to say let me tell you how important I am no it's not about you so you know it's not easy there's a there's a mob element to it when you're hiring certain people on your team and by the way you know what else you do you always sometimes also you bring people on your team that you intentionally use them and they don't even know it as the person to leak information yeah yeah they don't even know why they got hired like why does he have me in my because you don't realize I intentionally when I want the market to know what's really going on I'll tell you and I'll tell you not to tell anybody you're telling me so I know how to use you're ready for the next thing that they're going to say about Trump by the way I agree with you on the media savviness uh that's obviously a major component the next uh tagline on Trump is that he hates women look at him if fire is christie no I don't think that's not gonna work you don't think that the media is gonna attack Trump they already are they already are the media is capable of everything but I think that's a oh now we're giving the media the benefit of the doubt okay it's it's doesn't have credibility because of all the stuff they tried with them that's gonna do nothing let me get to the next one you know who is winning you know who is winning with all the stuff that's going on quietly the Santas really tell you I tell you why I tell you why because the Santas you know his flaw is marketing his flaw is you know thinks very highly of himself his flaw is lack of uh uh being uh uh what's the word you know loyal not not loyal no not loyal I would say lack of uh promoting he he he he thinks very highly of himself and he doesn't fully understand the power structures at least he did in four or five years ago but let me tell you something the guy if he believes in something he's gonna go out there and do stuff that the other guys simply don't have the brass to do it that's why he's in my opinion the greatest governor we have in america's governor the santas I agree I agree take all the marketing stuff away this is a guy I hired 10 out of 10 times you sure it's not JB Pritzker or yeah Kathy Hockold so governor the Santas signs Florida's version of the SAVE Act Rob if you want to play this clip Florida's version of the SAVE Act here's governor the Santas go for it our constitution in the state of Florida says only american citizens are allowed to vote in our elections and so we need to make sure that that is the law there you go okay so this put protect and expands integrity in our voter registration process our constitution in the state of Florida says only american citizens are allowed to vote in our election so we need to make sure that is a law and you know this law most of which won't take effect until the midterm elections is Florida's version of the federal SAVE Act bill uh president trump has championed that measure is currently stalled in the U.S. Senate where it lacks 60 votes needed to advance under current rules democrats and voting rights advocates warn for Florida's law will disenfranchise eligible voters who are a lack already acts a lack ready access to documents that are needed to vote tom your thoughts on this well it's interesting that once again um the the best governor in America is bucking the national trend and and he's doing it um i think with the right kind of attitude and the right kind of legislation remember covid who stood up to it texas did but certainly certainly de santa's yeah and took a lot of heat and he said listen uv is good uv kills you know people should be able to go to the beach okay separate from yourself a little bit but the beaches will be open i'm not doing this so as quickly as he could he was countering everything that was going on on covid and it was like a wave he was fighting and it turned out he surfed the wave successfully and that's what's happening here um and then all the usual suspects the people that are against it are the democrat organizations that are out there that were aiding and abetting what was going on on voter fraud and other parts of this country and so oh you're going to disenfranchise African american voters that don't know how to get id there they go again saying oh these people don't know how to do it it's like you're saying a particular voting block and it's insidious and terrible to me or don't have don't are not smart enough to go figure this out look they get documents so they can get a driver's license it doesn't have a red bar on it that says that that you're not from around here yep they do it so that they can get an i9 so you could show you could go get a job and get w2 income oh but they they would be very confused if they had to prove this for voting the usual suspects are speeding up speaking up but the usual um i think you know governor with a spine has already spoken and i love what you're doing i just think it's a soft bigotry of low expectation as always trying to manipulate the public that's what the left's doing they're just trying to manipulate the public there's a great video from years ago where this journalist went out on the street and they started interviewing white liberals of do you think black people can get get ids and they're like no they can't and they ask black people and they're like what are you talking about yeah why would i not be able to get an id i don't even know how this is controversial we have a massive population you look at europe europe by and large uses verification of citizenship whether through a national database or identification and they're supposed to be the more progressive you know the more open and they still do it and yet here we're saying no no no let's just and people have also already have a massive distrust in our institutions if you're already in a situation where you have controversy over our institutions why not just secure them so the american public feels like their vote matters i don't see why this is controversial and again i just see it as as the ilan let me explain something it's so simple it boggles our mind like we go nuts this is when you have a party when you have no leader when you don't have any pal bro i'm still waiting when i ask quomo like what are the policies or i think it was uh steven a like what do what does the democratic party stand for and it's always illegals remember the mariland manor all this stuff when when people get murdered they don't even talk about in chicago they don't ask me crazy it's you know but you and me both but you know what it is bro when you don't have that you have to protect the vote your voting base is the illegals that you bring in that you promise the world and mind you some of these people are doing all this fraud and all this billions of dollars that funnels right back into their party and it's i was trying to quite like what are we even talking about and it's simple you have to have your voters be on your side so what better way to be like hey showing ideas where everything goes to racism to them bro and he made a great point what was it take one day take one day vacation dude we have lgb to all these days take one day all you pregnant women that've got married or whatever the hell these stories are go get your id go get take a day go get your id it's a federal holiday get your butt back to work and let's do the guys that's the only that's the only reason that they care about this thing don't don't people try to make it bigger not you i'm just saying in general yeah get an id i have five of them i have my military i have my freaking veteran i have my driver's license i have my birth certificate give me a break yeah i thought the five id's was so you could vote five times in georgia that's it might be nothing in county vinny and i are going on vacation man we're gonna vote 10 times in georgia try to stop us yeah exactly adam yeah well just once again the the future is florida you know and uh we've all basically give governor ronda sandis his accolades and he deserves every single second moment there's levels to this game uh it's amazing what a governor can do when they have three things uh common sense a spine and the ability to tune out the noise from all the haters because you're gonna have noise regardless and uh you know trump has all that common sense the reason that trump is in the white house right now because he had more common sense of kamala so the next the next thing that i want to be are you telling me that that the sandis is such an authoritarian and such a bully that he only believes that citizens of florida should be able to vote it's ridiculous gavin nuesome on the other hand is basically what's the famous land he said he goes they're gonna have people at the polls talking about checking people id's making sure that they're citizens he's winning isn't that only the yeah the citizens supposed to vote yeah but the question is this is now yeah the sand is has the mantle who's next is it biren donald j colin's he's won't be fish back he's winning now he's winning i like what pierce morgan said to fish back you said i'll bet you're ten thousand dollars you're not gonna win did he really say that oh you didn't see that no he's i'll bet you ten thousand dollars you're not gonna i'll double that what are you talking about he says i'll bet you says what are my odds what are my odds anyways they kept going back and forth back and forth back and forth and then eventually agreed on the ten thousand dollars uh uh with uh with fish back on uh what's gonna happen there now while you while you're finding that how long i'm not gonna play the whole 254 right but it's not that like two percent yeah no but listen i think it's up to three let me let me tell you let me tell you one thing about fishback fishback has the if if if the santas had that marketing side of fishback because fishback has marketing and you need that crazy marketing shock jock statements to make and yeah he's not boring the part that he has is he's not boring but uh you know is this the one wrap yes go ahead play this let me say this i'll bet you ten thousand dollars for charity of your choice you do not win do you accept the bet well well i i want to know what the odds are because poly market no i don't know what's just mean you man man at what odds and i get ten thousand you get ten thousand that's a fifty fifty years mr perfect let's have a little ten grand bet to charity on on camera on camera sure i say you're going to lose if you are this confident you're gonna win take the bet i'll take the bet if you give me a hundred thousand dollars that's the ten to one on poly market right now if i win you give me a hundred thousand dollars if you're not confident you can win i understand it the odds are on poly market so you accept the poly market is right you're gonna get shellac you accept it anyways eventually he agrees to it but but the part but the part i want you to show Rob is the following watch what Desantis does if Desantis keeps playing this he he's gonna be a he he just you know the the problem he made is he went after trump and he should have never done it and he didn't go approach him and ask him why didn't you make the call why would i make the call i'm one and a half million anyways we're past that watch how he handles this year go ahead Rob i appreciate the legislature for for passing this but i will just say to my friends in the florida house of representatives can you pause it real quick so this judge released a child rapist while on bail he raped and tortured and killed a five-year-old girl right and she released them and this is Desantis responding to the judge on the right with the dimples go ahead Rob i don't think what you've done is enough you have the power and you have sufficient numbers in your chamber to impeach this judge tiffany baker until you start holding these judges accountable they are going to continue to find ways to benefit the criminal element this was an outrage this was such an easy call to make sure that this guy was put behind bars and this judge refused to do it knowing the risks and the result has obviously been a tragedy so florida constitution vests the house of representatives with the ability to bring an impeachment against a circuit judge with two-thirds majority you know last time i checked we've got way more than two-thirds of republicans honestly i think some democrats would vote to impeach given what happened in this case common sense man common sense spine and tune out the noise there you go you nailed it i mean he has a real ability to just cut through everything and in a very simplistic way that every american can understand say here's the problem this is what i'd like to see him in the mix in 2028 i'd like to see him in there in 2028 uh uh you know can you imagine if he was da g and and uh oh yeah imagine if he was handling up steam files i think that would be a very different story anyways we can move on to the next story next round want to go to is uh the uh the uh travesty that's happened in nigeria rob what page is that story on uh i'm trying to see where the story is at actually you know what i'll go to the story and we'll go to that because it kind of goes together jd vance claims representative ilhan omar definitely committed immigration fraud by allegedly marrying her brother rob you want to play this clip about ilhan omar and tim wall obviously ilhan omar the president and the white house have been out saying that she married her brother that there is uh immigration fraud going on here uh these are deportable uh denaturalization offenses can you give us an update on that yeah so we actually think that ilhan omar definitely committed immigration fraud against the united states of america and i talked to steven billar about this actually recently we're trying to look at what the remedies are that's the thing that we're trying to figure out is what are the legal remedies now that we know that she's committed immigration fraud how do you go after her how do you investigate her how do you actually do the thing how do you build the case necessary to get some some some justice for the american people there's a related issue bennie which is she has been at the center of a lot of the worst fraudsters in the samolian community so do i know that ilian omar was aware that the quality learing center was defrauding the american learing center i'm not certain of it but we at least need to investigate it because if people can commit wrongdoing without even the fear that they're going to be found out that that's a fundamental problem so i'm worried about the immigration fraud i'm also worried about what did ilian omar know about what was happening in the samolian community and why was nobody looking into it until frankly donald's rope so let me tell you why this is important so her representative respond this is rich coming from someone who literally said they were willing to create stories to redirect the media said omar's chief of staff connor mcnaught this is a ridiculous lie and desperate attempt to distract from the pedophile protection party's unpopular war of choice increasing gas prices and rapidly dropping polling numbers the allegations have the dog the congresswoman women since even before her house campaign in 2018 omar has two ex-husbands amet abis salam hearsay and amet nur sayid elmi traditional american names the latter of whom was first accused at least a decade ago of wedding the future u.s congresswoman but omar had married hersey in 2002 ceremony as part of her islamic faith and applied for state marriage license but the two weren't legally joined until 2018 january the minnesota star tribune has reported the month before that she dissolved her marriage with elmia uk citizen whom she legally wed in february of 2009 as a part of a ceremony with a christian minister in eden prairie minnesota according to a hennepin county marriage certificate previously obtained by the post vinnie this goes back to my point that i was talking about with pan bandi and the ag and it's like republic when it comes to republicans pat they are this build a case this is why people like me and people like you are losing their freaking minds the documentation's there the marriage records the family records if this was the other bro can you imagine if this is the the other part was in charge she married her brother for legal you're done you're done it's illegal you're marrying your brother to get him immigration status does am i losing my mind no well yeah they make you feel like you're losing your mind yeah that's the trick i'm thinking crazy yeah yeah and it doesn't stop there but there's this is my opinion there is no way there is no way uh tim walls my opinion ilhan omar keith ellison the ag of freaking minnesota they don't know bill dude and billions and this is what pisses me off tommy they bring them to to to congress to go in front of the senate did you see keith ellison's attitude did you see him talking the only way you have if one of us right now had to go to congress you know how proper and yeah he's sitting there with an attitude the only way you have that attitude is when you know you're untouchable when you know they can't do nothing to you just like when peter struck and everybody during um russia gate came up and they're like no no yelling yelling at congress men and yelling at senator's tom because they know they're untouchable add on top of all this stuff bro nobody gets accountable it's so freaking frustrating to me because it's like dude what are we what are we doing what are we doing we're gonna build the case we're gonna send them a letter we're gonna republicans love doing this we're gonna launch an investigation really launch it to wear it's gonna crash right down to the moon no and none of them ilan and i know time you want to say something it furiates me this is why the country is sick of it endless investigations endless claims endless this and somehow nobody on top gets in trouble zero the only arrest and i'll give it to you where james call me uh indicted james call me leticia games uh james and what happened two weeks after case dismissed the judge somebody messed up the prosecutors and nothing zero accountability go ahead tom it doesn't surprise me that um omar is being accused of committing fraud and she's protecting people or complicit you know allegedly we'll find out soon enough of people who are committing fraud and the thing that boggles my mind right now is very very simple it says pat when all the arguments happen and we're in that meetings about this and that what is the one thing in business that usually you know just causes all the smoke to clear numbers how much did you spend did you overspend your budget we look at it you did so don't tell me this or that here's the numbers sales you're telling me at a good month it's not you're actually flat till last month and you're over here you're actually down numbers clear the air in business always all we need to do is take the quality leering section and find out where the money made the u-turn back to election coffers in minnesota because that's what i believe happened that's what i suspect happened and where's the fbi all you need is that as soon as you have a dollar meant for um honest welfare programs that's fraudulently given to something like the quality leering section and that dollar went back around to omar 24 a campaign that's all you need and then what they will have to say is i didn't know it was coming from there and that is weak but it doesn't surprise me i want to see let's stop the talk words talk number scream let's audit let's get the investigation going and let's see where the money went and then it's all done adam look minnesota's a an s hole almost first and uh she's the main reason for it it's pretty simple to me whether she married her brother or you know whatever the situation is or the rice of the bananas everything they got going on over there they've ruined the state of minnesota my mom's from minnesota i used to go every summer i have no interest in minnesota at this point minnesota's a nice cold place and now the people from the warmest place in the world somalia mogadishu they're like yeah let's go to freezing minnesota why the question is why how do they get there to me everything in politics is binary unfortunately when's the third party candidate done anything ross ferro rfk to me you're either on the trump camp or you're on the illhan omore camp that's it and i'm on the trump camp yeah and by the way when you're when you're seeing this going on for some of you guys that are wanting to become better parents gavin newson's wife yesterday gave some parental advice before you choose to take on this council by her brace for impact let us give some commentary but here's her advice of what to do with your young sons go ahead rob i've given our boys dolls um even if they tear that off i've given them dolls to learn that care and caregiving is not just an activity that's reserved for women but that it's also an activity that is um a responsibility of men it's a responsibility what i've done with both my daughters and my sons is if i'm reading a book and the protagonist is a male i just changed the he to a she and it just normalizes for my sons in particular not it's not even i don't even just do it for my girls i do it for my sons because i want them to see that women can be the center of a story that women matter that women are interesting wow that's what i do when i read you know when i read to my kids about the kennedy assassination we're reading bedtime stories i changed it to she harvey oswald you know of course i did but let come take some notes tom because she's she's got more wisdom go for it like in this place in history maybe where we're recognizing what it is to ultimately deconstruct all these gender roles and ultimately be human and that's exciting to me so i you know i'll just continue to kind of do my work and try and deconstruct all of these like limiting narratives about ultimately what it means to be human you know the left loves the word deconstruct if you think about this like what are they actually always attacking they're attacking truth what is truth truth is god i really believe that all this game of identity politics of of gender ideology is an attack on basic truths it's to invert truth so that you can destroy the concept of god and then you can have moral relativism which essentially leads denialism and chaos and i've said this elan date like if you think about you can you honestly give me one and i'm being honest right now tell me one democrat congress member big big name that's ever proclaimed their faith of christ have you ever be honest right now can you think of one no thank you zero they are a godless freaking party all that identity new guy new guy who's the new guy that uh rogan likes that he had on white guy new guy that when i spoke to scott gallaway he brought him up rob what's his name pierre polyev no no not pierre polyev he's actually he actually uh you know what i'm talking about rob yeah that guy right there what's his name james talerico james talerico apparently james talerico he's the crazy guy what is it you know this is the guy that thinks god is a woman yeah he thinks god's a woman oh man saying to you where is one the democratic side this to them is their christian canada but what as much as as much as you want to say what you want to say you just listen to possibly the first future first lady of america yeah say whatever you want you just on every cal-shee numbers you look at she's up that's the president yep and that's the president's wife okay i'm thinking aoc is going to have a bigger opportunity than him but uh we'll see we'll see what's going to happen yeah right there you have a new some it just proves one thing to me california is not america everything that we see being exported from california doesn't align with american values these people are so far left that in a presidential election fill in a blank candidate from the right versus a blank candidate from the left the the the american left the kamala harris is the gavin newtons they don't represent the average american if you would have told me three years ago that trump is going to win every swing state and the popular vote and have a complete mandate after what happened on january 6 i said you're you're crazy you're absolutely crazy there's no way trumps gonna win and then the republic the democrats are like you know what hold my beer chicks with dicks men and women sports let's go let's get crazy i feel like i'm taking crazy pills and now my boys are playing with dolls and it's all deconstructed it's all fine california is not america and we shouldn't make america california you know they say make america great again make sure that america is not california yeah come up with a little slogan for that i'll let the creatives come up with that california is not america the problem is the fracture on the right is make it we're distracted we're no longer looking at the left we're looking inside the right i agree with that and that's very scary i agree with that the only challenge is i think the fracture is manufactured 100 it's manufactured so we're talking about it it's not real though manufacture fracture that sounds we're gonna manufacture the fracture we're gonna fracture the manufacturer that's what i'm talking about what you're saying is it's manipulated it's manipulated i'm saying it's manufactured the fracture well it's only ross problem the right's got to come together say that three times it's interesting about the manufacturer fracture to your point you on you know the left does a good job of kind of rounding up the wagons when they absolutely screwed um sanders in south carolina they wanted to create the momentum behind one candidate so through the primaries they're like you're done they're right you're not going to get money from the dnc we're going to undermine this and all the sudden he was on the out it's because they circled the wagons to go forward and i think that's an example of where they do a better job than the republicans do of getting together and saying pat and i have talked about this right pat who is the real enemy and do we all fracture for ego do we fracture for personal gain do we just want to run right now and just just do it to get our hat in the ring get our name out there and then sacrifice the election to other leaderships people do that all the time it happened in bokeh from air and so the dems do a better job of circling those wagons than the republicans do and frankly i hope you know that there's more capable um and funded i hope the fact that new some can't get above 19% nationally spooks a lot of people into supporting multiple democratic candidates let me read this to you because you get more reports like this mass exodus from la revealed and shocking new figures the region recorded largest population drop of any in the nation between july 2024 and july 2025 according to census bureau the data was published roughly 54 000 residents left the county during this is the county not the state left the county that one year period the losses market continuation of a continuation of a steady slide of a nation's most populous county once home to more than 10 million people in 2020 right now it's at 9.7 million people riverside san bernandino county together gained more than 21 000 residents over the same period while the las vegas metro uh area saw an influx of more than 20 000 despite the outflow of la county still or something i said okay so you're seeing numbers like this on what's going on with them you're seeing numbers like this with la with california it's it's not a it's not a situation where data is benefiting kim meanwhile he's up there he gave a talk i i think it was last week he started getting emotional started crying asked the camera to be turned off i don't know if you guys saw this or not and they didn't and and did you see this time yeah i was watching him i'm like right here right here rap i mean dyslexia yeah go ahead rap uh i've never been here adhb avenue i mean everything about this is ah feel like i'm home you know dyslexics that are surrounded by you know these special folks particularly young folks there so i'm grateful um i'm also weird um we know sharon i'm you know i was um forgive me you know this is embarrassing you can turn all that off they're not gonna uh just because all the noise you know that we just need to turn off he creates and this is this is this listen to this this is it man this is one of the greatest motivational speaker wow i can't read like any of the robber's better watch out powerful coming for you tony well just sell out arena sony i want you to watch out wow i have awakened the giant within pat what if he goes like i have a clause it's not even a sentence it's i have a clause what if he goes guys you see all those words underneath my podium i don't know what the hell that means just like all of you you're all dumb that's him he doesn't bother you think he's being authentic absolutely not he is you know i think it is pat he puts a spell i'm being dead serious with all the hands and all he is amazing at making like because people let's bro if you have good hair good gel you're a handsome person and you do well people are just like i don't know what the hell he said but i'm there's no other way with the amount of stuff that he has destroyed california people will still line up they'll still stand behind them they'll still cheer a hundred percent and he has a freaking spell on these people bro if they he's he's amazing at what you know samon did a song many years ago called i put a spell on you good you remember that sounds a very good time well speaking of music i remember when la california used to be cool la in california just no longer cool i don't know anybody that's like yo bro i'm leaving miami la dog zero my mom so weird i know so many people have moved here from la from silicon valley and they're like yo we're out look at all you guys i remember tupac right uh california love the living dying la even the singing over with even the song what was the song the famous we love la yeah there was always amazing music amazing culture coming out of la and now it's uh we're weird we're woke we're gay we got chicks with digs we want to uh have transitions we want to deconstruct we want to uh manufacture the fracture california what happened to you you're the the richest state in the country yeah and you're you're broke with with ineptitude tell my mom adam she's sitting on my couch right now your mom's on my couch i'll move here she's in la mom my mom's on my right now she wants to go on us move here yeah but seriously no that's here you lived in la how long 15 years how long you live there seven years seven years 45 my doll oh my goodness yeah you're there are you are you like the coolest place in the world genuine question is la even cool anymore i don't think so yeah and it's crazy because the entertainment industry left to lay for atlanta for new orleans everything i've shot everything i've shot i maybe one or two shows in la the rest in atlanta new orleans north carolina over i think you've done you've done some stuff you don't stop yeah i was on walk well you you were on walking uh i was on walking dead for on and off for a few seasons i was in the big short uh briefly i was supposed to have a bigger part but we won't get into that the movie the big short yeah that's why i met brad pit and then i was on deep water horizon i have crazy stories from acting that's you want to talk about a society that likes to deconstruct do you think that's a letter to california is ever going to have a bounce wow let me tell you what's going on guys there is something i don't know if we have a story here or not there's conversations about the fact that a couple republicans could potentially create some momentum and make it a little bit tough for california time you were sharing a number earlier today the 15 percent number you know which one i'm talking about yes maybe you want to get into it for californians to have a little bit of hope go ahead tom well there's only statistically speaking there's only about a 15 chance of it right now but what happens in california is this a time where says we know there's a risk ahead a 15 chance of calamity it's not a 15 chance of stubbing your toe it's a 15 chance of losing the governorship losing the down ballot races tom i'm excited for this i see a lot of highlighted notes over there tom let's do it what what it talks about um i i put a post out about uh two weeks ago about the governor's race in bokeh tome florida and this is exactly what happened two republicans stayed in head to head with each other and because it was you know not a primary there's not a primary to say there'll be one republican you had three people there a democrat and two republicans and the democrat got elected with um by just a couple votes with 39 percent of the vote so congratulations bokeh tome florida now has a mayor that they didn't that 61 percent of the people did not want because he got 39 percent because the other two split the vote this is coming to california and what they're worried about they're worried about too many democrats on the ballot path that's what they're worried about and if there's only two republicans um and too many on the ballot could one of them be like a 39 percent winner and that's why they're saying well there's only about a 15 percent chance of of losing the governorship but the fact that they're even talking about is telling you what's up and they're also very very worried about what has been regardless of the economy there has been progressive conservative vote progress especially in the central state and down um in inland orange county making a comeback and outside san diego so could there be enough that one of those republicans gets 33 percent of the vote and there's such a splintering that he gets elected so it's a long shot but that's what they're talking about pat and the fact they're talking about you know means they're thinking about it and they're thinking about it they don't like it meanwhile they're leading democrat candidate which is you know um uh swallow china's favorite dating partner um is is sitting down honestly that is the worst leading candidate because you have number one is him at 13 14 percent and then you have k uh what's her name katey porter i was just about to get very upset with tom discounting my girl katey pataty yeah katey porter 10 or 13 and then tom uh uh sire and then you have hilton on the republican side that's number one 16 17 percent and on chat bianco is second i wouldn't mind having chat bianco and hilton here together i have a conversation about what's going on with california maybe a friendly conversation between the two of them but swallow right now is this calci rap calci is showing 57.6 percent hilton's at nine tom stires at 14 percent on calci uh and this is five million dollars of volume we're talking about it's not like a small number adam i can't believe that erik swallow is in the lead here right now by the way tom steyer for such a successful person what a loser this guy just donates money to running for something and wins nothing like remember when michael bloomberg just spent basically spent a hundred million dollars to basically throw himself in the race he's gonna be the savior and then just basically made a donation this guy's just donating money left everyone's ability public speaking exactly you think public speaking is like just because you're billionaire you're great on stage no you got to be able to sell persuade fight no you know market no he doesn't have that if he had if katie porter had his money katie pataty could be going some places she's she's special she's she's i know you have i i don't want to bring his you know you're married you're happily married gen but you do have a thing for kate i don't know what i i do america's gift i don't want to see it out but don't do that don't do that like don't say stuff like that because it offends me if you put some stuff about katie porter online people have to appreciate her talent rob can you pull up one of the clicks i mean you can't do stuff like this and i don't like when you do that you know you're you're i want to be in the inner circle i don't want to be a person you lose the respect when you talk about people i i uh rob which one do you want to do this one oh you tell me this is not a sweetheart go ahead this is what's so recently this fall in september and what it showed is if we don't if a democrat in california wins i want her sector then we're gonna lose more than half a million californians dying prematurely to air pollution and other problems and the state could lose out of my fucking shot oh that's it's not that it's electric vehicles it's that look at her okay it does okay you also were in my shot before that no she wasn't stay out no she was shot but you know what though i'm gonna start again you need to tell me you don't think that's governor quality oh you need to tell me that's not tv stuff oh yeah listen she's made she by the way if she goes on the view and i keep saying this if she goes on the view and she does what she does superstar super stuff yeah so but anyways going back to california she could throw america into canik you know remember when i said la used to be cool that's the new face of california if unbelievable if i have to choose between swal well and her i'm actually being very serious oh we want pataty i want her i want her to be to california to see what she will do to california but the 15 chance that the california has to have a republican to all the people that want california change you better get behind beancourt or hilton pick and choose play ball give some money support go do your part because if you don't she's your governor well she's been oh man oh man she's been desperate and sinking in the polls she has been sinking right now and i'm just waiting for the comeback story something that maybe we'll just throw america into panic katie porter and playboy reach terms i'm waiting for that headline i don't have to go there and do a tomm in the dirty mind i'd love to have her on here and have a conversation with her let me get to the next story here that we have by the way while this is taking place rob i sent you a clip a teacher in california a teacher this is new york or california this is a teacher in new york when you think about taxes here's a teacher nate freedman another one of those guys that does a phenomenal job yeah yeah so he is asking this teacher what do you think should happen with all these billionaires that are leaving because a possible wall taxes what should happen to their businesses keep in mind he is a teacher teaching kids in america this is his answer this is why this is why business owners are leaving states like this where these people are teaching the kids of that state and that city go ahead rob what do you say to this folks that say well if you tax millionaires they're going to leave the city and the top one percent pays 40 percent of the taxes in the city so what happens if they leave what's your response well that's what i would say it's like we should take their business and we run it like for like the city ourselves so if they take their business to florida you feel like you can make it keep it i mean they they can't leave the building they can't like just bring their whole entire workforce to florida right they can't bring all that like the resources that they have to like build the business here to florida right that take that's a whole thing and that's where we would even say like we're building a real movement right to like stop that we'd also like make it illegal for them to like actually like leave right we would find like find them to hell if they're going to try to like abandon their property here right because clearly people do need to work right people do need to like you know make a living so so that's charles berry and while that might have been one of the craziest things i've ever heard in hundreds of street interviews what matters more is that he's a teacher for new york public schools what do you can you imagine what the kids are being taught i mean how you process that tom when you i don't want to put a lot of time into this obviously this teacher deserves a little bit of a time to highlight his madness but how do you process that tom you know you cannot underestimate never underestimate just the power of dumb and that's how i assess it you just can't underestimate how big it can be and when you start asking people just these basic basic questions i i and by the way this goes for all of us j leno used to do man on the street outside the burbank courthouse and there'd be people coming out with a manila folder and a little american flag they were just sworn in they just took an oath and became citizens and he would grab some person walking on the street with a backpack like a college student or something and then ask the two people the same questions they just took on the citizen chest how many branches of government are there and you'd have this person from vietnam who's now a u.s citizen would answer correctly and the other person would go i think we only have one branch of government it's like the president isn't that right and they would just get it wrong and just you can't underestimate just the power of the uninformed populace isn't it like a measurable amount of the population that believes that chocolate milk comes from brown cows what are you trying to say you know are you trying to say that it doesn't come from brown cows i don't know i haven't read the sign now brown cow i was not expecting for you to get racing today but uh you crossed the line that were brown cow but by the way you know what's going on in new york you know what's the famous thing it's like how'd your wife how'd your kids because they're coming out and they're indoctrinating everybody that's what's going on new york you see this sort of protest that's going on in york yeah they used to keep this stuff quiet hey by the way we're communists we're socialists they're coming out with the communist flag the communist manifesto shout out the car marks you've done great things for the world and that's what they're doing is this in new york looks like china town i don't know what's going on around here but by the way what percentage of this guy's a teacher what percentage of uh elementary school teachers are male versus female or even middle school high school i think it's like 80 plus percent but these people are making that point right it's a point you've made out on top of your and i like these these folks were you know i talked about you know gays for gaza and they said do you really know what it would be like if you went over there it's just like these people waving these flags do you have any clue what life would really be like if you got your it your wish i appreciate the interruption tom i love you uh what percentage of teachers we're not going to fire it's our our male you professional it's 10 percent tom what are you doing your guy i'll wait for you go i'll talk oh no i'm waiting for you you want to interrupt sweet this is sweet you won't let him talk you won't let him talk and now you're holier than now i think we take a moment to pray again yeah and pause okay i'm going to move on i love the neighbors time all right let me try to make a point that that men are very few men are teachers and if this is the men that are teaching our children this is who's shaping our youth it's only going to get worse by the way what city is this guy in new york california we have to be very clear that the that people who run new york and run california cannot be shaping our country okay tom you got the one last word let's get to the next story now i'm getting to the very few men are teachers is statistically incorrect okay all right so let's get to the next story gunmen kills at least 30 in nigeria's plateau state attack which by the way that's three days ago i think that numbers in the fifties now rob what's the number 56 is last i heard let me read that story if you can maybe verify and and uh on the numbers that i'm sharing uh so gunmen attacked the university community in nigeria's plateau state on sunday night killing at least 30 people residents and local officials said on monday the latest bloodshed is in the region uh uh by deadly farmer herder conflicts violence in central nigeria known as the middle belt is often painted as ethno religious between mainly muslim uh fulani herders and christian farmers but many experts and politicians say climate change and expanding agriculture still competition for land leading to conflict regardless of faith or ethnicity this is a roider story obviously they turn into a climate change story so binny i'm going to come to you first with this tragic event that takes place there your thoughts and pat and think about this happened three days ago this is this is holy week okay and these these poor people are just trying to worship uh and a lot of innocent people were just shocked because they were shooting houses uh and everything like that just because of jesus christ and my question is this where are all the christians at right now okay where where where's you know the vaticans the biggest catholic okay there's still we're still christians where why isn't this the crisis story of the week where the activists groups that claim every oppressed group still deserves non-stop coverage where the celebrities where's the where the squares where's the black lives matter these these people are they're all black what where where are all the causes and where's the outrage okay the silence to me is absolutely deaf deafening nope by the this is this story came and went like that no headlines no cnn no no mms mbc and if i thought about this ilan if this happened in a country that had strategic oil or rare earth minerals or even poppy fields everybody and their mother would be there helping these people but because it's poor african christians that are being hunted down during holy week just because of their faith it drives me crazy and it makes it even worse because like i said this is holy week and we're supposed to be this is supposed to be the christian week and nobody is saying anything and it drives me insane yeah i've been i've been working in this space for a while the stats are unbelievably troubling one in seven christians worldwide is persecuted there are hundreds of millions of christians persecuted worldwide the number one group persecuted in the world nobody talks about them i often say people talk about israel all the jews all the time all that stuff i often say it's better to be hated than it is to be ignored for your suffering to just be completely ignored and not acknowledged and to just have you there and and what these people do you want to talk about sacrifices it's an important time to talk about sacrifice right now these people in the face of actually being murdered will stand tall in their faith they will not put down their bible when they are told we are going to massacre you for it and this these are the stories that i'm so happy we're talking about it because i keep trying to raise awareness in this exact and it's not just nigeria by the way nigeria has a massive problem not just from the fulanis which you can argue is ethno religious but there's a massive religious component to it but you also have boko haram over there you have iswap over there you have incongo terrible things happening to christians somalia syria when when churches are bombed with people inside suicide bombed in syria nobody talks about it and i always ask myself why again spiritual battle it all comes back to the same thing for me these people are dying for their faith they are martyrs for their faith and i just think it's so important to acknowledge it it's so important to get the attention over there draw i would love to see a march for nigerian christians that's my dream oh and when they talk about boots we've been arguing for how many weeks for boots on the ground boots on the ground this is the one time that i'd be like go please i know that they said that they're going to help the last time go help they're helpless bro like you said ilan they're praying and the buddy church blown up bodies everywhere pastor still sitting in the middle of an exploded church going we're not gonna budge we're still christians and there's one pastor i wish i could find it pat he was he's like i don't care do it he goes let them come come he's looking at the camera he's like come kill me come nothing zero fear bro i'm wearing a faith over fear shirt zero fear but i hate the silence it's like this is where the this is the real people that are suffering and need the help not a strategic thing an actual murder of helpless christians and nobody's helping them oh what is this clip you got rob here this is one of the people that was associated with the church where these people were killed talking about what happened go for it people were here in the evening and unfortunately wicked terrorists came and attacked our people and then we have counted cause of people who are now dead and then so many others are also in the hospital receiving treatment it's a simple game and it's called kill the truth uh and you look around the world and you look at the the truth of the statistics is the christians are the number one persecutive group and it's happens in silence um sensationalized things are used to counter it and it takes nothing away from genocides and maniacs that are happening to to people of other faiths but why is it that there's such an ardent attempt to not only persecute the christians but to legislate belief structures into into convincing that it's actually hate speech to even canada saying that having a bible and reading from it and saying something is now on the verge of a persecutable uh you know criminal offense of the misdemeanor level why why does that happen because the game is called kill the truth because there is one truth and that truth stands tall and it has a group of people that stand in peace that are that are dying for their faith that are not retaliating and are the first people ashore when there's when there's tragedies and natural disasters churches are sending people often before governments can get there i can go back to hurricane katrina and i can show you chapter and verse where churches made it down with water and supplies when the u.s government was failing and you look at that why why is that because there's a purity to it and there's one truth and the job is kill the truth and to kill the people and to cover up the truth of what's really happening because in a world of globalist you can't have christianity in a world of totalitarian regimes you can't have christianity you're absolutely right and more needs to be said and be aware these people have 30 people die and it doesn't show up on any news right three there saying and well just the first i'm talking about the very first report it's gotten worse the number's getting bigger right yeah the number keeps going look i've been again i've been trying for years and it's interesting because the resistance to this is irrational it's it's like people don't want to talk about it it's not that they're they're fundamentally against talking about it and uh yeah i agree with you fully you can't what's the first thing you destroy in a marx's state you destroy the idea of god because i you know you know it's interesting what we're going through this i want to show two things one is uh report comes out that king charles who you know uh uh you know good friday's here announcement was made that he will not be talking about it this year at all he did dedicate you know buckingham palace has confirmed king charles will not issue an eastern message this year wow he did issue a ramadan message earlier this year he did but not an eastern message and you know and and by the way this goes back to 1993 there's a clip of him i don't know if you've seen this or not where says islam is part of our past and our present i want you to play this clip brahb watch this go for it islam is part of our past and our present in all fields of human endeavor it has helped to create modern europe it is part of our own inheritance not a thing apart islam can teach us today a way of understanding and living in the world which christianity itself is the poorer for having lost wow our judgment you can pause it right there the what is he must repeat back again or hold back again go back 10 seconds rob not not that far just go back right there go for it not a thing apart islam can teach us today a way of understanding and living in the world which christianity itself is the poorer for having lost our judgment of islam has been grossly distorted by taking extremes to be the newer that led us into is a serious mistake it is like judging the quality of life can pause it right there so this is a real thing that's going on by the way king charles a lot of people that are you know from there will say well he secretly became a muslim and i think he took three million dollars from somebody that was shown whether it was cutter or i don't know who it was from someone you can verify this rob as i'm going through this but this is a real thing and when you think about uk what do you think about what's going on with britain right now you know they're completely according to pierce morgan nothing's going on here's one's all good to go out there and and go to london and go to different parts i'd love to do the following okay if pierce is open to him by the pierce and i have a very good relation i actually think he's phenomenal for the marketplace of what he's doing his voice is phenomenal pierce i'd like to do one thing how about we come down me you the boys and tommy rodinson you give your version he gives his version and we'll record it and we'll have a conversation and let's just kind of see what is his version of the story what's your version of the story and let's see what's going on i do think you're a real player i do think you're an honest player i don't think you're i think you'll push anybody at any time you know at any place but i think that would be something i wouldn't mind entertaining because as we're going through this next phase you know is that the one right there when you're personally accepted uh the story you're referring to is 2022 sunday times reported that prince charles personally accepted a three separate cash donations tolling three million dollars from sheik hamad bin jamin beer by a long name just hbj the former prime minister of katar there you go these occurred in 2011 2015 is that he got 3.2 million dollars so you're saying he could be bought for three million dollars the payments were handed over in cash okay mostly 500 pound notes during private meetings sometimes in suitcase or shopping bags so most people don't know about including from fortnum and mason one notable handover was a suit case containing a million pounds at clarence house in 2015 the money was intended as donation to the prince of will's charitable fund later passed to the charity accounts at cald spank charles's office stated that the funds were handled over immediately to the charity and which concluded due diligence etc etc there was no evidence of illegality to it but again the money came from where so who knows who knows never know you never know what's going on there but it's important to pay attention to this has happened and then in canada rob you know canada just in 2025 i want to say october maybe even earlier than that a couple guys this guy right here they started working on saying some of the stuff in the bible is hate speech okay truly some of the stuff in the bible is hate speech and here's what he had to say go for it rob in this case the bible but there are other type religious texts that say the same thing uh and somehow cons say that this is good faith i mean clearly there are situations in these texts where these statements are hateful they should not be used in the bible last let me ask me what is it or be a defense and there should perhaps be discretion for prosecutors to press charges i just want to understand what your notion of good faith is in this context where there are clearly yeah when you have a country without a constitution this is what happened i mean they don't have a first amendment let me read this and then i'm going to come to you let me read this you know i'm going to come to you so you're hearing this okay so here we go canada wants to make quoting the bible illegal this is the spectator two days ago east is almost here in canada's liberal government has chosen the sacred season to display its utter contempt for christianity it's currently forcing through uh the outrageous bill c9 which could make it a hate crime to quote from the sections of the bible more than 40 civil and religious groups have asked that for the bill's language be clarified and its scope more carefully defined so their religious texts would not be subject to hate crime legislation but all in vain after a hot debate in the house house of commons the liberals uh high-handedly ended a conservative filibuster in fact fast tracked the bill it's now been sent to the senate to decide if canada is a kind of a country that wants to turn quoting saint paul into a criminal act ilan uh yeah again canada doesn't have they have a bill of rights but they don't have the first amendment in the way we do i think you look at canada during covet they were going after churches like crazy and again i think this is bigger than politics i think it's spiritual i i think that canada has an attack on truth across the board the world is seeing an attack on truth across the board tom has been touching on it and i think it's a it's a spiritual war if you can destroy the idea of gender if you can destroy the idea of man having value woman having value the sanctity of a child like when you think about how how out of control abortion is all these things and now they're attacking the very scripture that's meant to be spread to protect against those evils they're doing it for a reason and uh that's the thing i fear most in the world and i think people are met now with a binary anyone watching you're met with a binary choice now you're either going to go down the path of moral relativism which will lead you to nihilism a complete destruction of truth and it will leave you in a void that is empty a dark void it will lead to depression we're seeing it it will lead to anxiety it'll lead to all the nihilistic behavior we're seeing or you will head to a path of truth and i think the only light i see in all of this is because of these blatant open attacks on christianity that we're not only seeing in canada we've even seen it in our own country they've gone after churches in our own country um and i think the only benefit to all this is that as that becomes so binary you really do have a choice the choice is presented to you by god now you will either follow me or you will follow that elan what what were you raised as i was uh born as jewish you're born as jewish when you become a christian well i became an atheist for a while i went through a lot of stuff and then i had a friend who started telling me hey come to church visit me you know like just try it out i was working on the show loki my friend took me to a monastery a silent monastery for for monks christian months catholic months and uh it was the first time that i felt at peace in a very long time i've suffered from depression for most of my life i've suffered from anxiety i've drank too much for a big part of my life and this was out of everything i've ever experienced in my life that was the first time that i felt at peace inside i couldn't explain it then i went to church one day and i cried i cried i was sitting there i started crying i'm like why am i why am i crying here like what is going on with me what is the thing that's happening to me that's making me cry and i realized i've been carrying this burden you talk about it's not me it's not me it's not me i've been carrying this burden my whole life that it's me it's me it's me and i finally found a home where i was like wow this burden this relationship with something bigger than myself can finally be shared and i i tell everyone this there is nothing other than christianity that will cure alcoholism there's nothing other than christianity that will truly clear your depression or your your whatever you're going through because it's it's a relationship with something bigger than yourself that you can take off yourself and put there and uh yeah it's been tremendous for me i had a friend who sorry not to go on for a long time but i had a friend who's like what do you mean you be you believe in this now what's going on because when you're raised jewish it's very hard for people to hear that you're also doing something like that and my jewish identity is still important to me uh but i said it makes me a better person so i don't care what anyone tells me i don't care what anyone believes about me it makes me a better person and that's all that i love it good for you adam your thoughts on i love your story and i wish that more stories like that were shared i think that judyism christianity has a bond that should be unbreakable there you know without the old testament there's no new testament and uh look the crusades were fought between the christians and the muslims and the jews were always in the middle because they were always fighting over jerusalem jew ruslam or anybody that has a problem with the jews being jerusalem it's in the name judaea jerusalem the bible is the greatest book of all time that's the uh you know the old version and the new version whatever version you subscribe to that book is the most important book other than maybe the declaration of independence united states constitution we are here in america i love what you have to say i wish more people said that jesus was if not the greatest the one of the greatest people of all time to walk to earth i get an argument with my jewish friends i say why don't you have a little more respect for jesus they go i don't believe he was god i said that doesn't mean you shouldn't have respect for him he was a jewish rabbi who hung out with only jewish people his mother jewish father jewish all the wise everyone around was jewish he was questioning authority questioning establishment well his father his father wasn't jewish but go ahead go ahead finish i'm sorry i don't want to just want to don't pull it down right now father the reality is we need to work closer together because we're better together than we are apart there's a crazy segment of the world that some people don't want to name and that crazy segment of the world whether it's one percent or two percent it's millions of people and that is called radical islam the story started out with nigeria did it not what's going on in nigeria i didn't even know this story didn't trump trump bomb nigeria a couple months ago did he not didn't you have a he didn't he didn't bomb he sent troops okay i thought i thought that they sent troops so they said they're sending ground troops i don't know i didn't see so but i thought he did do something in nigeria but genuine question genuine question don't come at me why should we care about nigeria as americans what do you mean why should we care about nigeria there's so much going on in the world because iran gaza israel is there christian sudan are you actually is it a little historical or no i'm asking so why should we care about defenseless christians that are just in churches you're okay praying to hold on you asked me let me finish they are war they are worshiping jesus christ and they are all getting massacred and they have nothing they have nobody bokeh whatever all these guys are so well islam it's mostly fulani's i swap uh and bokeh haram is a is an islamic terror organization should we just negotiate with them do you think they'll listen or do we have to do something about it no we have to go in and help them but no because nobody's helping okay so are you okay in nigeria having american boots on the ground i've 100 so but you don't want american boots on the ground in iran i thought you said i don't want for wait why are they defenseless are they wait wait wait time out you can't compare defenseless christians in nigeria that are in wooden stone buildings praying to god and getting massacred they're just out there by those can't you argue that they're doing the exact same thing in iran defenseless people praying to god the largest the largest growing religion religion in in iran is what then say christian okay but if you're gonna say there's innocent christians being killed there too yeah but if you're gonna say where do you draw the line on boots on the ground this is too completely different i don't think it is i think it's two completely different things adam because when they've been for 47 years under this thing everybody it's not just america that want to we're going in and we went in because marco rubio and all this type of stuff this is a completely different adam all i'll let me let me just i'll answer it i'm gonna come to you one sec i just want to understand where you draw the line on boots on the ground we had boots in the ground at venice by the way this is a very good sequencing of questions that you're asking and i think you know this this exchange right here is what leads to a lot of the arguments and there's leaks in both sides of the argument i actually love this exchange that just happened right now because it makes us actually think why are we for in nigeria but not for iran okay why are we for helping out gaza but not helping iranians why are we for helping out iranians saving them but not the people in gaza both sides make the argument in a very it leads to a leak in the argument of both sides if you actually think about it it truly leads to having a leak like the guys are like yeah you know gays for gaza and but palestine stop fair what they're doing this rose doing a genocide but they're quite about iran oh yeah and the christians are christians are sometimes yeah iran we got and there's like but quite about gas it's a very very valid argument you know i wonder what you're going to say here yourself well what i was going to say is there's certain just unfortunate realities the threat from iran to our ground troops is significantly and the long-term consequences of a ground invasion in iran and how long it would take and everything is fundamentally different than philani tribes so you have to also look at you know how hard is it to solve the problem and protect people versus the benefit so it's a cost-benefit thing it's not to say that you know when there were 30 40 000 people being massacred in iran during the the uprising that happened i would say that at that exact moment if people were making the argument this is an ending we need to get boots on the ground we need to cut this off before millions of people potentially die you have an argument there but what's happening in ijira is just a long-standing continued massacre of people based on their religion and you either look at the united states and you go we're a hundred percent isolationist we have no reason to be involved or you look at the united states kind of like a superhero and you say look we're superheroes we do have an obligation in the world to do what's right sometimes even if it's hard so nigeria is a place where we can go in with a high benefit to cost compared to iran at first as a starting point that doesn't mean i'm not saying police the world but i'm saying when there's something like the genocide we see in nigeria there should be some controlled involvement to protect them over there yeah this my ultimate point was this i'm not an isolationist and i'm not a complete interventionist you know the whole conversation of america can't police the world america's not uh the world's police really well who is because if america doesn't have the badge policing the world who do you want police in the world you want china police in the world you want russia running the world you want the islamic republic of iran running the world so in my opinion america should be the policeman of the world we might pull out a nato nato a eu let me know how you're gonna work without american funding so as much as we don't want to be intervening in every single conflict as much as we don't want boots on the ground if not america then who well let's do that let's go into this let's go into the great transition into this trump absolutely considering nato exit will rip european primetime remarks uh he said on wednesday that he's absolutely considering withdrawing the united states from the nato is this uh yeah well play the clip rob go for it to be honest i was really asking um because i wanted to see what they do we didn't need them we blasted the hell out of head of the ran and the last thing i needed was nato stepping in our way because they're not they're a paper tiger but uh so we didn't need them but i i asked anyway and they probably think i'm the worst salesman ever i was the worst there you go so he's saying so he continues charming new month of traveling telegraph that nato's future is beyond reconsideration after european leaders barred us of military bases for month-long iran conflict and balked at us's request for naval support to reopen the state of her moose i was never swayed by nato nato for generations has been a cornerstone of us foreign policy committing to us canada and major nations in europe to collectively defense against external threats so this is this is this is a this is a big statement to be made by the way just so you guys know i thought i thought that when he gave that speech at night at nine p.m i thought the announcement was going to be we're leaving nato or i thought the announcement was going to be the golf states are paying for the war i thought it was going to be some announcement like that but we haven't covered it because we did a great job covering it with warren around luke yesterday it was great but what do you think about tom when he's making these comments about nato how do you process this how far you think he'll go with this well he is a great negotiator and he's a great deal maker and what he is reminding them is if you look over the course of human history you know alliances you know are not necessarily permanent now i'm i am not in favor of you know breaking the nato alliance i am in favor of everybody pays a fair share yeah and we get certain and and and get everybody on the same page in terms of strategy but what he's saying is he's saying look if this you know we had uh remember the salt treaties salt and salt too and they broke and they fell apart why because they didn't outlive their usefulness everybody started behaving differently and suddenly the treaty was worthless and then you had to go negotiate salt too and so and people say well those are just treaties you don't know what you're talking about this is well really those are pretty important treaties what you have here pat is is europe is going through a metamorphosis of its own and the france that signed nato is not the france we're dealing with today the uk that signed nato and all the nato nations are not the same today they have different strategies and different implementations politically and so what he's saying is this you know what if this is out lived its usefulness you know maybe we need to make a change and i think that's the point he's making and he's making it from a negotiation chair and a and and the deal making chair he's reminding them is about why were we why do we get in this the first place pat you've done this you've had carriers you had very large insurance carriers they changed they got different ceo's he had to oh we had one that had different financial situation came up member and they had to completely change all their distribution policies and who they worked with because their financials completely changed so guess what someone that was a staunch ally one year and a staunch supporter one year therefore you know a distribution agreement if you look at political terms all of a sudden they can't do it so you have no treaty anymore so i don't want to see nato torn apart but i think he's i think he's negotiating and i think there's a lot of things going on in the middle of it and they're showing their face oh you can't use my airspace let me ask you nato let me ask you we've been in thousands of meetings together if some like this happened how would we have handled it with nato we would have said if you want to if you not well i don't think we would have reminded them what i'm saying would we have taken similar approaches to say oh really this is what you want to do no problem no problem that's exactly what we would have done especially when we had all the distribution and you were representing a position of strength yeah so you know what's funny is when i when i look at this and i look at the fumbles leaders way we make all we all make them we've done him i've done a god knows how many i've done and he's going to do this well there's no perfection i've done it trust in your trusting in your instinct right when he's coming on doing this this is the part where i voted for him i want him in the negotiating room you know who capitalized off this yesterday trying to get him from the mix you know who posted something on instagram yesterday on the my favorite clip of uh for some people just sometimes we need to be reminded i want i want to show you something too get guys get your blood pressure machine next to you man get your blood pressure machine next to you let me see if i can find this thing that i saw literally i think it was just a couple days ago uh let me see if i can find this i'll find it somebody saw this as an opportunity oh right there okay uh is this a round you was in a round with the people yeah in okay well let me find this i'll send it to you but here's the point i i voted for this guy to do that we didn't have it with biden i didn't feel comfortable with obama kamala i didn't think could negotiate anything except for anyways additional i got you i know where you're going yeah but you have a negotiator and that's doing this and i think this nato thing could be could backfire on them if a republican gets reelected in 2028 but the first thing if a democrat right now think like a democrat guess what the democrats are doing right now guess what a nuisemore and aoc will be doing right now you know what's the power position right now for nuisem to do if i'm a democratic strategist all i'm saying is hey man get up on the public make a video and talk about the history of nato and how important it is to us right now is the right moment for a democrat to get up and talk about why this relationship is so important capitalized off of it for republicans you need one more term because if this term doesn't go four more years to 2032 nato is going to go like this in 2028 with a democrat getting collected a nuisemore and aoc should get on the pulpit right now and start selling the history of nato and they will because this is opportunistic you got to slide into the girls dm after the breakup you know those dirty things that people do you know what i'm talking about whoa yeah so so this is the part where you know they just had a breakup nato and trump are looking like they're going through a breakup nuisem should i'm surprised if they haven't already by the way but i think this is going to be nasty uh uh in a big way what's this one right this approval rating is this about the economy that we were talking about yes sir go ahead and play this clip go for it gracious what a disaster 72 percent and our latest cnm polls say they disapprove of the president on inflation joe biden and average of polls at this point in his presidency 68 percent and jimmy carter whose presidency just like joe biden's was absolutely wrecked by inflation was at 66 about at this point in his presidency back in 1978 donald trump even worse than they are 76 percent three in four americans disapprove of the way that donald trump is handling gas prices the worst of all time at this point in term number two it's the economy dragging trump down oh my goodness gracious okay tom so on this is basically actually no way let me go to adam because i think adam this was your story on the economy go for it well you can this has to do with nato or is this both of them do nato and this as well well i didn't really understand that is he talking about inflation he's talking about gas price because his inflation is at two and a half percent right now under biden it was eight percent i know we've had multiple arguments what this about the money printing quantitative easing but if the if the if the status about inflation here it goes two point four percent go to the fact that americans don't feel confident about the way he's handling the economy right now of course gas prices by the way can you guys post in the comment section yeah how much gas prices are right now and and fyi i've robbed asked the question the following way has your gas prices gone up 50 cents to a dollar a dollar to 50 cents buck 50 plus to two dollars and two dollars plus give those four options 52 buck buck to buck 50 buck 50 to two dollars plus i'm curious to know what the gas price is going to be at where you guys are at go ahead adam look you know what's the the uh the fear versus greed index if you want to pull that up people are in extreme fear right now but much like the markets things change weekly to monthly we'll be out of this in a matter of weeks if not months so uh trump is fighting so many wars right now whether it's the external forces of the wars or whether it's the media wars this is nothing new for trump the i think that the the speech that trump gave was it last night two nights ago first was so needed very calm very surgical here's what's going on what's the whole phrase that we said short-term pain for the long-term gain that's what's going to happen regarding nato if you told me a year ago how dare you can't leave nato we're part of nato those are our allies but then you unpack the numbers do you know what percentage of the overall budget of nato military spending us pays versus all the nato countries we talked about this you know the number that we pay for it for the military for nato us pays two-thirds of all of nato crazy so you have all these 900 billion dollars the next up is germany with 90 billion then you have uk 80 something billion france 60 billion italy 35 billion poland 34 billion canada turkey and then you have countries that you basically never even heard of latvia slovenia all these us they're basically the stands of the europe that pay nothing borax and these are the former ussr template i don't think that's the right number that is the right number which is what your united states pays two-thirds of military spit nato basically we're we're funding the bill 900 billion yes no i don't think so i don't think it's 900 i think you're wrong i don't think it's 900 i've looked into this and i've done a clip on this but what percentage no i i think it's i think it's uh i just did a video on this i think it's like 1.1 billion or it's it's somewhere between 800 million to 1.2 billion can you can humberto can you guys fact check this real quick 900 our military budget is 1.2 1.3 between 900 billion to 1.3 trillion i think we're off do the math on this we pay 2 percent of our total gdp what's our gdp 27 trillion i don't do the number on that i understand one just just i thought it was i thought it was two percent of our gdp okay so let's do the math for you right there if it's how much was the trillion what did you say isn't it 20 i want to ask 30 trillion 30 trillion it's a big number i'm not telling you it's not a big number but i can't say 900 billion that's our military budget rob uh adam no i know that that's separate from this okay i'm just trying to make sure the audience sees the difference there's a massive difference but the rent okay even if it's less i just had chat gbt how much does the us give nato each year the direct us payment and to nato common budget is roughly 750 million that's 800 million yeah 750 million yeah to a billion nato's budget nine billion you probably know about that okay but by the way two percent of our gdp is it not home bearer so can you in the back just send the story and rob pull it up to look at i don't think that's the number adam it's a big number and i i actually think we are only now five three three and a half percent to five percent of the entire budget uh it's us defense spending equals 900 plus billion per year us complete defense all of our budget is 900 billion all right to ensure to be sure the membership in nato is not a over a trillion dollars in defense no no no it's 700 that 900 billion is 100 billion less than a trillion so it's it's but that's we say 900 billion to nato is ridiculous can we just pull up a chart of what people are spending on nato but the can you fact check this are we not funding two thirds of all of nato i think we are yes we are we're paying 70 of nato the argument people make is that us is overall military defense budget is in many ways taking care of nato because if anything happens and i i don't even think we're paying 70 percent i'm telling you i because i just looked at this i don't even think we're nato military power we make up 70 of nato military power the military power not the whole budget you're talking about yes the point is this we are paying for nato are we not do we are we not the biggest pender of nato yeah and where do we get out of nato that's my point but 900 billion is a big number buddy i'm just correcting that number okay keep going you raised the question of whether trump should leave nato my point was a year ago two years ago i'd have been like that's crazy talk now we see that they didn't have our back in iran yeah and i'm right i the u.s. share nato budget annually is four billion dollars we are roughly 15 percent of that you're saying that nato's budget is only yes billion dollars yes yes bro yes but u.s counts for 65 to 70 percent of nato's defense spending which is not that you defense spending is like if you put all the militaries together and they spend 1.3 to 1.5 trillion dollars this is like a different way of explaining it so you're germany i don't know how much i've done this numbers with everybody this is why i kind of question this you spend 80 billion on your military your friends you do 100 billion your you know u.k you do 120 billion whatever you take all those guys combined i'm us i do 900 billion we are all nato i'm 65 percent of the 1.5 trillion that we all spend in the military but the nato budget itself we're 15 to 16 percent by the way 13 percent too much 12 percent too much but these are two different numbers that we're talking about here so there's the military spending but then there's also so like the bureaucracy spending 900 billion that you're pulling up is how much we spend on our military i don't want i don't want to spend too much time on this adam we can sum it up really fast based on the 15 to 16 percent that's a lot correct the point is either way we're all for spending we're funding nato yeah what's the famous quote that mark root said the secretary defensive nato didn't he say listen guys you guys are talking trash about 90 seats talking about that trump we need them without them we're cooked and the whole point that i'm making is this when we needed them most with iran which trump basically said didn't even need you yeah we need you with the hormones what are you doing so it just further proof that whatever is going on in europe the strange death of europe is a real thing the great irony here is that the intermediate range ballistic missiles can reach europe there are bigger threats from iran you mean from iran than to the united states and yet europe is just that's the point closing their eyes and covering their ears and saying no no no we'll be fine so the fact that they don't let us use their military so let's let's go on the world on the same page here the only thing is numbers are very different yeah so it's it's a it's a different number that we have can we do the last story before we wrap up it's got to run up to max seven and let's try to do this in five minutes do we want to do the druskierica kirk or do we want to do charlie kirk the bullet you're talking about bullet i mean i was interested to hear okay so let's go to them let me go to them and i'll read it to you and i'm gonna come to you because that was one of the stories that we had a bullet used to kill charlie kirk did not match the rifle allegedly used by the suspect tyler robinson new court ruling this is a daily mail story i'm gonna get to page 17 and i'm gonna come to you first and then ilan we're going to you right afterwards and then adam and then tom if you have any thoughts we'll wrap up with that but the bullet that killed conservative comrade charlie kirk does not match the rifle tyer robinson robinson 22 is facing capital murder charges but his defense attorney now argued that the bureau alcohol tobacco and forums atf and explosive was unable to identify the bullet recovered at the autopsy to the rifle alleged tied to mr robinson the defense team may now offer the atf team analyst testimony as x culpatory evidence they said an emotion filed on friday to push the preliminary hearing back at least six months it also notes that dna reports filed by the federal bureau investigation and atf will take time for the defense team uh uh vinny thoughts well and you said so they said the atf could not conclusively match the bullet fragment recovered in his autopsy from a 30 out six rifle i've been looking at because i've shot 30 out six have you yeah i've shot 30 out six just just from audio could we just take one step back have you have you you've heard it live oh yeah you heard that pshum shot when charlie was assassinated god rest his soul that's not the sound of a 30 out six shooting can you can do you do you agree to that well what i so here's what i'll agree to that if i were close to the 30 out six it would sound more concussive and you you know it's a it's a strong round yes at range i don't know what acoustics is at that you know 2 000 feet away what was it at 200 well how many yards was he from charlie curkey was about about two to 300 yards but then where was that recorded maybe about 400 yards so i don't know how acoustics would pick up that's that's something that's so this basically just means that the prosecution no longer has the clean for i'm saying from a legal standpoint right uh you know they don't have that clean moment where it's like here's the bullet here's you know this is this is the bullet because they're saying a fragment which which kind of bothered me elon because they were trying to remember they were trying to say uh who was it was an angel called i don't want to say maybe a lot i don't know he has superman bones and all that no like bro there's from that shot they should have they should be able to recover the bullet of a 30 out six bro i've shot bullets my entire life when it hits bone or pat anything the bullet just melts and becomes something else but there's still a bullet intact for them to say that that it could outmatch i get it because of the prosecution they're looking for i'm sorry the defense is looking for anything elon what what what is is being said but from the official narrative you add that into everything else that had it i i'm not 100 did he shoot it did he not i don't know but were you at with the fact that this this piece of this bullet they're saying they can't definitively match that it came from this from the rifle so i think this is where ballistics is so much more complicated than the average person realizes and there's it depends was it a full metal jacket was it you know the the bullet type matters here and there's one thing about bullets that is guaranteed is that they're unpredictable yes that's the one thing so the the reality here of this being like a big story oh they can't match it the the thing that really bothered me here was the and this is the probably the bigger stories how the news reports these things did not match that's not what they found what they found is that it's not able to be used as evidence because it's too small a fragment it's there you can't match the striations and this is a title for it for a heart of course everybody had the world it feeds this massive massive massive hatred for the wrong people and could lead to all types of problems down the road for the trial that this is becoming the norm i mean this is done in virtually every big trial and jfk the ballistics were pulled into question written house specter as for the 30 odd six i know everyone is saying this everyone is saying how did it how did he not have an exit wound with a 30 odd six again it can hit spine it could change trajectory it can head downward more into his body i think there is for me personally i need to see evidence against the obvious evidence for me to believe in the conspiracy i'm not saying it's wrong to investigate i just think that this is a perfect example of things being taken out of context to create a narrative that is dangerous and that this is a normal occurrence in okay can you with with something this massive as a public assassination as charlie could you brought up uh jfk if you if you've read the the the court documents and if you've seen the movie uh jfk where they proved in court that a magic if you think about the word magic means make believe they proved in court that a magic bullet and don't do they did the forensics of it it can rub can you show that they prove that that happened that happened and then mind you mid and this is what they prove that in mid once it came out of him it reversed the bullet which is impossible reverse course and came back and then landed in his leg and we but we obviously that's impossible that's obviously that's impossible and guess what they found the bullet and tom knows about this in pristine condition and that's what i'm saying bro when the bullet's coming out thousands of miles an hour and it's melt it's dude it's so freaking hot they obviously lied in this case and what what has people you know why people are so frustrated ilana why people ask so many questions is because everything else that the fbi and everybody told us to don't of course because we and i'm i'm i'll give it right back to you think about just number one just besides the bullet george zinn standing up a guy that just randomly shows up to terrorists attacks 9 11 boston bombing stands up says it's me that's the decoy he's a decoy the very next day but let me stop somebody from turning point forgot his name jumps up grabs the footage hands it off to somebody else and goes we just want to get it to the fbi another questionable thing you don't touch the crime scene where the cops number two number three they do construction the next day i called the freaking school the week later yep and i go i'd like to talk to who who made the decision she goes hold on whispering in the back we can't talk about that who are you what i go i'm just curious what click hung up on me so people are going to i understand 100 where you're saying all the all the ballistics and all this and all that when you add all the other stuff ilan and then it's not now this is coming up people are like wait a minute we know where he was shot allegedly now they're showing all this other stuff in line it doesn't even look like a 30-06 yeah so of course i actually agree that 30-06 was a surprising round when they came out and said that because you you would but you did see a massive hole yeah it did look like a something very concussive hard blast what uh what i will say is that the burden of proof on the truth that people are now placing this distrust in the truth i just hope that people maintain that same burden of proof for the conspiracy because it seems like now people distrust the truth and then the conspiracy comes along and with no proof whatsoever yeah point yeah because the because the government just like with that that's fine then question everything equally i agree 100 percent and i agree and i'll just i'll just finish with this is that my big fear in all of this is after charlie kerrk died who was celebrating millions of leftists were celebrating and they have never been held accountable and it right away got distracted into a whole other thing and so to me that's the threat even if by the way even if he didn't do it let's say it comes out that he didn't do it the millions of leftists who celebrated that and dressed up like him on halloween with a bullet hole and they're like or a threat to my freedom you're right and by the way i think that's plenty for us to finish right there and wrap up the podcast with tom adam we're gonna wrap it up here uh gang for everybody that's watching if this is one of your first or second moments 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