Now on 105.9 FM and streaming worldwide on the WMAL app O'Connor and company We are just getting started on this Thursday second day of April good morning unpacking all of the huge news yesterday boy for For an April fools. They were not fooling around from Supreme Court arguments on birthright citizenship to an Mission to the moon to a presidential address on the state of our current military mission in Iran and a whole lot more in between And looking forward to the rest of today and the rest of the week ahead on this holy Thursday Thank you for joining us coming up at 705 Mark Kirkorian Center for Immigration Studies 805 General Jack Keen and at 835 senior columnist at Town Hall Kurt Schlifter Larry O'Connor here Cassie Smedley is helping me out with this news cycle. Thank you Cassie. I couldn't do it without you Good morning Larry. I had that thought too about that's a lot of stuff to put on April Fool's Day I know what was that all about plus the plus by the way President Trump basically did one of the funniest stand-up routines yesterday at the Easter lunch, I don't know if you saw it eclipse of that. We're gonna place up for you He was hilarious this is his day started early in the morning goes to the Supreme Court Does the Easter lunch? Overseas the launch and everything and then he goes on the air live at 9 p.m And I saw big you know people unless they're always having trouble reading the teleprompter It's like are you kidding? Joe Biden would be like face down in his oatmeal at this point If he even did half of the day that Trump did yesterday He'd need two weeks to recover from that public appearance. Yes. Thank you. I Have to say I got to see him at the Kennedy Center the night before He was there for Chicago so he and that's right a date night with the first ladies So everyone being like I don't have time for date night the president found time for date night you can too How'd you like that production in Chicago? It's something else, isn't it? Yeah, it's good. It was good Chicago's a fun show. Yeah, it's good. It's a little adult. It's great. Go see it I need to be a little more overt. It's great Come on work with me here Do you know that when that that this is the revival of Chicago the original Chicago came out in 1976? Tough year for musicals because it was the same year as Steven Sondheim's opus Pacific Overtures and the groundbreaking Pulitzer Prize winning chorus line So you had a great musicals that year, but they're all gonna get you know overshadowed by a chorus line and that they are the original Chicago starred Gwen Verdin who was Bob Fosse's wife and Cheetah Rivera and It was and it was considered a flop Because it didn't do well because of the competition that year so then fast forward, you know, what was it 30 years later? 25 years later this revival. I want to say I think it debuted in 1995 and it's still good. It is the longest running revival in Broadway history It I believe this version of Chicago, which is sort of stripped down its bare bones, right? There's like this and not all everyone pretty much wears black There's a couple of costuming elements a couple of scenic elements the show cost a buck and a half to produce They they made back their initial investment these producers Barry and Fran Weisler. I know these people I've worked with them many times They made back their investment in like three months and it's been nothing but profit ever since Not to mention that the movie Chicago was based on this revival as well. I said I had this Actually have this show in my theater twice when I was managing the Schubert, Los Angeles But I was Intimately involved in the staging of it when they first did it at the Schubert theater in New York I was still in New York at the time. It's phenomenal. I'm so glad you went to see it I could go on and on in fact. I believe I just did go on and on musical theater history I love it learn something new every day That is very cool. I'm very cool. They made that back their profit I know I've detracted us from all the news of the actual day But it is cool you should go out to the Kennedy Center the Trump Kennedy Center before it closes It's a fun production for I think theater, you know theater enthusiasts and then those who are just wanting something social to do It's great Bob Fosse choreography you reimagined by Anne Reigning his former paramour and and she started in that revival as well with Charlotte d'Ambois I think was her name the the actress who co-starred with her. All right Let's move on shall we? Darn it President Trump last night Everyone was hanging on every word and much of it was a recitation of our successes the speech recitation of the successes that we've had there He detailed the 47 years of Iranian tyranny and terror And everything that we've been suffering to you know everyone says oh, we don't want a forever war We've been in a forever war Iran declared a forever war on us when they first stormed into our embassy in the late Seven days and it's been going on We're now fighting back in that forever war and so far as the president pointed out You know World War two lasted a year and seven months World War World War one Excuse me World War two was over three years the Korean War was over for over four years Vietnam 19 years Iraq was eight years a month so far this operation is 32 days old Everybody just keep your pants on all right. Here's the president right now Talking about specifically the military objectives that we have already Accomplished and what the next two to three weeks might look like I've made clear from the beginning of operation epic fury that we will continue until our objectives are fully achieved Thanks to the progress we've made I can say tonight that we are on track to complete all of America's military Objectives shortly very shortly We are going to hit them extremely hard over the next two to three weeks We're going to bring them back to the Stone Ages where they belong in the meantime discussions are ongoing regime change was not our goal We never said regime change but regime change has occurred because of all of their original Leaders death The new group is less radical and much more reasonable We never intended to read gene change but regime change has happened because they're all dead And he said the neck the next the new group is less radical and more reasonable now that that's it listen You talk to any Persian American who has followed this stuff as far as their concern anyone associated with the old regime is poison And a problem, but it's obvious that the exit strategy here involves a similar similar Path forward as we had in Venezuela where you identify a couple of people who might be able to sort of Shepherd in a new era of governance of the people of Iran and cooperation with the United States and our allies and And you hope for the best and that's what it sounds like we're doing here Everybody specifically said the next two to three weeks. We're going to pummel them into submission I'm so glad we have general Jack Keenan Yeah to talk about this because one of the things that and I know when this first started we talked about I thought the president Was so smart if you think about how he started off Trump 2.0 Going getting the economic investment from these Arab nations these Arab countries and now he's asking them Okay, you guys need to step in or these countries that get their oil rely on the Strait of Hormuz for their oil Much more than us that we very little of our oil comes from there It's time for you guys to step up. We did the heavy lifting here, but we all have a vested interest Not just for world peace, but for the greater economic good To make sure that Iran can never be a nuclear armed Iran But also the radical Iran that we've all grown up with now Can never be that way again? And so I'm really curious to see how that's going to transpire over these next few weeks So they're gonna build that Yes engagement I guess from those countries because they've got to be part of this When way absolutely and it is interesting not just the Arab countries But also the question of Europe who needs oil from the Strait of Hormuz and he basically said we got all the oil We need we don't get a drop of what we don't need a drop of oil And we will not be getting a drop of oil from the Middle East because we've got our own oil And then we don't intend to get any oil from the Strait of Hormuz Currently it's like 2% of our oil so for all those European countries who need their oil from the Strait of Hormuz I've got two options for you number one buy it from us or number two. Why don't you go get it yourself? I was just a very interesting and provocative thing I want to talk about that a little bit more and sort of the the whole sort of Reorientation of the the Colin Powell doctrine that it became so famous during the first Gulf War, which was you break it You bought it right the the pottery barn Dictate well, let's talk about that for a second because that doesn't seem to be how we're operating here and a little bit more from the President's speech last night about how Iran has suffered and and he did mention When this might be over it wasn't very specific He used a word that can be interpreted many different ways, so we'll get into that in a moment, too. It's 615 Full send golf you guys know how much I really really love golf I think every week would be dope to post on the golf channel Want to get a lot of guests on here Salim's gonna take leave. I'm down to be in it It's not really work to play golf join the party on the golf course. I was like, let's go to the range So what are we putting on it? We said 10k right 10k? Alright, we probably bet more than all the other golf channels, right? 10k nine holes those guys bet for like cookies. I'm gonna shank it This guy's been training like a Navy SEAL when it comes to golf. I'm very very excited. You excited? Yeah Full send golf follow and listen on your favorite platform I've made clear from the beginning of operation epic fury that we will continue until our objectives are fully achieved Thanks to the progress we've made I can say tonight that we are on track to complete all of America's military objectives shortly very shortly Okay, so shortly that's the word people were saying is it weeks is it months certainly? It's not years. When are we gonna be done? When's the end game? When do we shortly? Cassie shortly reminds me of my parents. I you know when you're a kid you say when are we gonna do this race? I said soon soon to win that was exactly my thought Shortly is I thought my mother coined the word shortly shortly shortly means when I'm ready. Yes Yeah, shortly you never say long Lee, right? You know So does that move the markets does that make everyone take a deep sigh of relief and say, okay? We're fine. Does it assuage? You know certain people many would call them panikins who are in the Republican Party who are worried about the midterms Who think that this whole thing is a big boondog on a problem and it's gonna hurt them politically Does you know get will be done shortly? Will achieve our objectives shortly is that enough to make everybody just take a deep breath and chill? I don't know you know when he says shortly We'll be we will achieve our objectives shortly and then in the same speech say hey listen World War two took three years in Eight months, you know Vietnam was 19 years. It's like shortly is relative. You know, it's all relative Yeah, you know, I have to say don't call me a panikin But I did fill up my car yesterday with gas and I know you're like oh if only you had an EV But I had been holding off hoping okay Do I do it this week? Do I do it tomorrow? Is it gonna go down a little bit? Because it's a notable. I mean it's over $20 more gallon than what it was a month ago So again not a panikin, but he's dealing with a very There's a very literal and tangible Effect on the American people on this and I know he's done a lot to try and mitigate that and maybe we just haven't seen the results of That but a lot of us are saying okay a little short-term pain for long-term world peace I'll give you some grace here. I'll give you shortly But that's sort of what Jamie Diamond CEO JP Morgan had to say in a couple of interviews He said he said you know worse than ending this going on too long is ending it prematurely And and letting Iran come back and be a bother again now that we're in it Let's finish the job and so because the the end game here and coming out on the other end of it Is the upside is so enormous all right the president spent some time yesterday talking specifically about how hard Iran has been hit in such a Short time. This is cut six, please as we speak this evening It's been just one month since the United States military began operation epic fury Targeting the world's number one state sponsor of terror Iran In these past four weeks our armed forces have delivered swift decisive overwhelming victories on the battlefield Victories like few people have ever seen before Tonight Iran's Navy is gone Their air forces in ruins their leaders most of them terrorist Regime they led are now dead Their command and control of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps is being decimated as we speak Their ability to launch missiles and drones is Dramatically curtailed and their weapons Factories and rocket launchers are being blown to pieces very few of them left Never in the history of warfare has an enemy suffered such clear and devastating large-scale losses in a matter of weeks our enemies are Losing in America as it has been for five years under my presidency is winning and now winning bigger than ever before Listen, I'm with you. I'm glad that we've got general keen to join us later in the program to sort of talk through The veracity of some of these things is obviously you're gonna get some hyperbole You're gonna get some but is it true that never has an enemy suffered this kind of military loss in such a short period of time I mean he makes a pretty good case for it considering the fact that you know, they don't have a radar system left anymore They don't have any level of Anti-aircraft left anymore and he made the point you said listen if if we can't get anywhere with these people we're talking to We're gonna target their electrical grid and their infrastructure and we're gonna simultaneously destroy all of it And and Iran knows that we can So it is well, let's go a little bit more here Because he addressed the gas prices Cassie that you you panic and what you just laid out there So here's here's the president talking to Cassie cut seven many Americans have been Concerned to see the recent rise in gasoline prices here at home Cassie The short-term increase has been entirely the result of the Iranian regime launching deranged Terror attacks against commercial oil tankers and neighboring countries that have nothing to do with the conflict This is yet more proof that Iran can never be trusted with nuclear weapons. They will use them and they will use them quickly It would lead to decades of extortion economic pain and instability worse than we Can ever imagine the United States has never been better prepared economically to confront this threat And that's what he went on to say that we don't get any oil from the Middle East It doesn't only directly affect us. Yes, it affects the prices globally But we're it's not going to disrupt our need for oil or gas. So did you feel better? I? Was talking to you. He went and I appreciate that he's he's so good at that, but I Actually did appreciate that I understand that this is another reason that we can't allow Iran to bully the market and to have this Volatility create this volatility. I understand all of that. It also makes me just want to chant drill baby drill Yeah, so that we don't have to worry about this stuff But also, you know, I can afford the extra 20 bucks a gallon a Lot of people can't say that TSA agents who have missed paychecks can't say that I'm being a contrarian But I think there's a lot of people like I'm with you I believe that this is a methodical approach that you're doing and I am ultimately I get the big picture of this But also we've got to have a balance and I that is Democrats and Congress and I get it But I'm being partly fishies fissures. No, they're they're fools if they're not Recognizing that higher gas prices is going to affect the electorate it again the higher gas prices as a result of this I believe your temporary and oh by the way are still lower than the high gas prices We had under Joe Biden when we didn't have a war in the Gulf So yeah, I got used to it all in perspective the low gas prices absolutely understandable All right, we'll have more on the president's speech and as we've mentioned the Our conversation with general Jack Keen about the president's speech that will take place at 8.05 and coming up We're gonna talk about the arguments before the Supreme Court a big day yesterday Will the Supreme Court? Overrule the tradition of birthright citizenship or will they codify it as? Constitutional we'll get into that first though at 625 Now on 105.9 FM and streaming worldwide on the WMA L app O'Connor and company You're all singing songs from Chicago now aren't you me too Coming up at 705 Mark Cacourian Center for Immigration Studies will get his take on yesterday's arguments before the Supreme Court of a birthright citizenship 805 general Jack Keen on Trump's Iran speech last night in an 835 Colonel Kurt Schlichter Town Hall columnist extraordinary a Laria Conner alongside Cassie Smetley Cassie Did you watch the Supreme Court? Well listen to the Supreme Court hearings. It was nothing to watch I Enjoyed the clips, but yes. Yes interesting that they're interesting indeed Katanji Bond Jackson by the way did not disappoint she honestly I I'm no constitutional scholar, but I felt like there was a notable difference between her line of questioning and the other Justice, I think that's I think that's fair to say. All right. Here's one exchange that caught a lot of people's attention this is John Roberts and US solicitor general John Sauer having to do with the birth tourism and That's coming in and how the Loophole it really is a loophole that has been interpreted as law as constitutional law of birthright citizenship, which is really just a interpretation by the executive branch from many decades ago about how the 14th Amendment applies to illegal immigrants the only case law in this or Supreme Court case law is a Decision made back in the late 1800s having to do with the child of a legal resident very different Than an illegal immigrant so now we've reached the point where we've got birth tourism We're China as we know are sending hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of women here to have a baby so that that baby could be a US citizen And then they go back to China and Lord knows what happens there not to mention what happens across our southern border, etc The 14th Amendment specifically says that citizenship is for anyone living in the country who does not have Allegiance to or under the sovereignty of a foreign government Very clear language. So here's the exchange with John Roberts that got a lot of people talking yesterday That based on Chinese media reports. There are 500 500 birth tourism companies in the People's Republic of China Who's what business is to bring people here to give birth and return to to that nation? Having said all that you do agree that that has no impact on the legal analysis before us I think it's I'd quote what justice Clea said in his Hamdan descent where they had where like their interpretation has these implications that could not possibly have been approved by the 19th century framers of this amendment. I think that Shows that they've made a mess their interpretation has made a mess of the provision. Well, it certainly wasn't a problem in the 19th century No, but of course we're in a new world now Justice leader pointed out to where eight billion people are one playing right away from having a a child who's a US citizen Well, it's a new world. It's the same Constitution It is and as Justice Clea said, I think in the case that Justice leader was referring to You've got a constitutional provision that addresses certain evils and it should be extended a reasonably comparable evils He said that about stash door interpretation I think the same principle applies here and I think we quote that in our brief that right there Cassie I think is the crux of it Maybe a new world, but it's the same old Constitution and and you know, listen I'm an originalist and I believe that you take the spirit in the language of the Constitution as it was meant when it was written and But I think given that I think as an originalist you can look at the front of them and say well It's clear that this had nothing to do with what we're seeing right now I did this is where I would differ with with Chief Justice Roberts, so it's like you're right. It's a new world It's the old Constitution and I assure you that there is no evidence to suggest that the Authors of the 14th Amendment in any way intended it to be interpreted the way that it is right now in fact, there's plenty of evidence to suggest that they Never wanted this to apply in the way that it's being applied right now, but I didn't seem like That voice was heard very much yesterday amongst those who wear black robes Yeah, in fact that that I mean unless they were playing devil's advocate but That they are even skeptical that this is a Not a not a thing but a prevalent thing that's happening. I mean and I do think that the solicitor general was Doing his best, but he wasn't anticipating some of those arguments or like I thought he might and again I'm just listening to the clips of this. I'll be curious because maybe they were trying to lead him towards Swords of me answers into come in different direction. I don't know but I enjoy your analysis on this Larry Let's go to Justice Alito once again, and he's referring. This is Justice Alito basically saying, you know, well, you know back when the 14th Amendment was written nobody anticipated this sort of thing and Justice Alito Then pointed out. Well, you know Justice Scalia famously said that it just because somebody steals a microwave and The law against stealing a microwave was written before microwaves were invented that doesn't mean that it's not illegal to steal a microwave here Take a listen. Scalia had an example that dealt with this situation. He Imagined an old theft statute that was enacted well before anybody conceived of a microwave oven and then afterwards someone is Charged with the crime of stealing a microwave oven and this this fellow says well I can't be convicted under this because the microwave oven didn't exist at that time and he dismissed that There's a general rule there and you apply it to future applications And what we're dealing with here is something that was basically unknown at the time when the 14th Amendment was adopted Which is illegal immigration. So how did we deal with that situation when we have a general rule? Good question, and that's really the only question at hand here and based on Apparently what you're hearing from most of the Supreme Court justices, you know Including Roberts and Barrett is that well the way you deal with it is to either amend this or Drop some new statutes or you know, but but not from the Supreme Court to just disregard the way that this has been applied It's 643 Next role with Vernon Davis Okay, y'all thank you. Thank you. That's my today. We have each likewise through my example on the field off the field During game day in practice. That was one way that I led because they're late success next role isn't about what's next It's about why they do it my man Bobby bones like I've had a lot of stuff happen bad and good And so I don't have any fear of mixing it up. That's powerful man next role with Vernon Davis follow and listen on your favorite platform Cassie Smedley as you know the 14th Amendment has specific language about Being born in the United States and whether you're a citizen or not based on whether you are under the jurisdiction or sovereignty of another country in other words, I'm just give you a hypothetical if you're flying here from Russia for a weeks vacation at Disney World and You go into premature labor. You didn't expect to have a baby when you're in America But you're visiting Disney World and suddenly you have a baby Are you while you're visiting Disney World for that week? Are you an American or are you a Russian visiting America? Well when you put it like that It's pretty obvious pretty obvious isn't it and so that baby that's born while you're here as a Russian visiting America Is that baby an American based on the 14th Amendment? That doesn't seem like that makes sense now, of course This law was read the amendment was written before jumbo jets could fly across oceans and no one expected this sort of thing But that doesn't matter you should be able to use the logic and the language and the Reasoning behind these amendments to apply to today. All right, so a big part of this comes down to that language What does it mean to be sovereign to another nation and be you know the citizen of a foreign country? So here I'm Korea Congee brown Jackson really drills down on this. Let's take a listen first to cut 13 Your view of this turns on what the status of the parents are And not the child as would the born in the United States view of it What can you help us understand why we wouldn't expect to see a mention of parents in the text of this amendment? I think it was well understood that for example children cannot newborns cannot form domicile So it follow every 19th century that assumes domicile is in the test and I'm asking you How do we know that Congress did adopt the test that you say it adopted? Yeah, when you look at 19th century conceptions of allegiance the notion that the allegiance again We say domicile is instantiating the concept of allegiance for aliens as opposed to citizen All of that the 19th century understands the new a lot of it hinges on this allegiance. Where is your allegiance? Okay, so then Katanji Brown Jackson cut 14 comes in and gives a hypothetical about allegiance if she were visiting Japan for instance I was thinking about this She was thinking about it say this that you can have you obviously have permanent allegiance Based on being born in whatever country you're from that's what everybody recognizes But you also have local allegiance when you are on the soil of This other and other sovereign and I was thinking you know I'm I u.s. Citizen and visiting Japan and what it means is that you know if I steal someone's wallet in Japan The Japanese authorities can't arrest me and prosecute me It's allegiance meaning can they control you as a matter of law I can also rely on them if my wallet is stolen to You know under Japanese Good Lord So I guess what we're saying is that Russian couple who came to Disney World to Visit for a week because they followed our speed limit laws They have an allegiance to America and therefore they are Americans while they're here I guess right Yeah, as long as they didn't steal your wallet They have an allegiance, but then as she was saying that and I don't mean to like get us off track But doesn't the you if you go to Japan and you steal someone's wallet and you get arrested Is it one of the first questions are the US gonna call for your extradition for them to prosecute you back here in the US? Do you have diplomatic immunity if the punishment is too severe like a caning in Singapore? Can you come in and say yes? Thank you. Thank you It's 655 full send golf you guys know how much I really really love golf And I think every week would be dope to folks on the golf channel want to get a lot of guests on here So we'm gonna take leave I'm down to be in it It's not really work to play golf join the party on the golf course. I was like let's go to the range So what are we putting on it? We said 10k right 10k all right? We probably bet more than all the other golf channels right 10k 9-olds those guys bet for like cookies I'm gonna shank it this guy's been trading like a Navy seal when it comes to golf very very excited Full send golf follow and listen on your favorite platform
