FAMILY TRIPS: Live! From On Air Fest 2026

Hey everybody Solo intro this week Seth is not around. I imagine he is On spring break with his family, but to be perfectly honest when we aren't on a podcast together We don't talk that much. So I don't know where he is But I hope he's somewhere great real quick sort of updates for What I've been doing I went to Ohai this last weekend, which is a beautiful little Town in California. It's about an hour and a half from Los Angeles and it was my dear friend Molly classes 50th birthday the last time I was in Ohai was from Molly classes 40th birthday and the last time I was at Molly classes birthday For her 40th was the day that my nephew Ash was born So Ash Myers has turned 10 which is amazing I sent him a gift He called to thank me for it I'm just kidding. He didn't call to say thanks because he's 10 and that's not apparently what children do but I Hope he likes it. Ash. I really hope you like it Ohai is great. It is it's so charming Although I will say you know my buddy Devin and I went to the Ohai Valley Inn, which is a very sort of shishi lovely Hotel with these sprawling grounds and they have a golf course. So we went to go play golf there. It ain't cheap And look, I know that Golf as a thing is it's kind of a douchey thing in general Malcolm Gladwell has a full podcast where he talks about how golf courses shouldn't exist and there's a lot of tax loopholes specifically in Los Angeles that have been exploited and I'm with Mr. Gladwell on all that but I do enjoy golfing And because it was a weekend You know, it's a vacation My buddy Devin and I decided to spend a little money and go to this golf course And on the third hole we realized that we had two Five sims in front of us and if you know golf it's classically played in a four sim and when there's five people playing it just slows everything down and when there's two five sims it really slows things down so I called the The pro shop and I said hey do you guys allow five sims and they said no we don't And I said well, I've got a four sim a five sim on three and another one on four And they said all right, we'll send we'll send a marshal out to to break them up And I said, thank you very much And I got to the ninth hole and they still hadn't broken them up And I went into the pro shop and I said well, I still got two five sims in front of me What's the deal and he said well, I think they're members they sent someone out and I think they're probably just members and so I told the gentleman in the pro shop that Either it's a rule or it's not a rule and I was very disappointed in him in the golf course. So I said my piece And then the five sim right in front of us had the gall to tell me and Devin Sorry guys, there's a five sim in front of us, but they were a five sim anyhow So take that oh, hi valia and I am launching my complaint on the family trips podcast and I hope you get what's coming to you But then we stayed at this place the roblar hotel, which was just lovely We had a day of games in the park in uh, surzati park. I want to say Brought out all these lawn games. We did some classic sack races three-legged races egg on a spoon Miley had this game where you had to put on you had to roll doubles with two dice And if you hit doubles you were at a table a picnic table with a lot of people So we were like 20 people and 20 people if you roll doubles you had to put on a scarf a winter hat Two oven mitts and you had a knife and fork and on a baking sheet You had a chocolate bar and you had to cut the chocolate bar holding the with the oven mitts in your hand Using the silverware and eat the chocolate as fast as you could While you were getting all that gear on and trying to eat the chocolate The rest of your team was trying to roll doubles if someone rolled doubles You had to take that stuff off as fast as you could the game made no sense to me before it started But once it started it was fantastic and Really highly highly recommend. Um, she used to play it as a child and the goal was just There weren't two teams. The goal was just like you want to eat chocolate um So that was great. Uh, I love a game day and uh Yeah, just a wonderful weekend with some of my friends who are like family to me So happy birthday molly again. Happy birthday ash This episode that you're about to hear was recorded live in brooklyn Uh, Seth and I were there for the on-air fest, which we've done for the last three years Um, Scott Newman hosts that festival. He's had us out there. So thank you so much scott There was a huge snowstorm just before We did this in a lot of the uh Talent which we sort of talk about in this episode was unable to make it We had a few guests that were maybe going to uh to join us and they were also unable to join us um because of the snow and so we had to go to the bullpen And we called my wife The wonderful and talented mckenzie rollins to the stage Who thought she might be on this podcast at some point? She has some unique insights into the mires family but she Is an equestrian She's not a stage performer. She's a performer when she you know, he's doing dressage or Show jumping or cross country at an event But she's not typically on stage speaking. So, uh She was a little thrown that her first time on the podcast was going to be in front of about a hundred plus people in a ballroom And a wonderful hotel in brooklyn, but she stepped up to the plate and we were lucky to have her and uh, yeah, we had a great time at this event and then a great time in brooklyn uh in february and uh Yeah, so enjoy everybody and seth will be back next week With the Good morning How are we? I think you know what? I'm just gonna take advantage right off the bat of this being a visual medium To say there's not an empty seat in the house It's early it's early fire marshal Um, but it's early. It's early early snow podcast festival and we know the podcast community Porties hard. Yeah They were out late last night the Brooklyn was rocking. I'm sure I mean more venues, which just means more places to drink. Yeah places to Can I ask who here is in uh the actual podcast world make some noise? All right, it's very funny that they're in the podcast world and they raised their hand Wait, uh, how many people hear a host a podcast? All right, so we have some hosts. How many people here produce a podcast? And how uh, how if you produce a podcast be honest, how much do you hate your hosts? Who are always like, oh today We have to do another we have to do another one. I will say as somebody who hosts a podcast I think there's this inverse relationship, which is the amount of dread I have When I realize we have to do one is completely inverse to the joy. I have once we actually do one Yeah, well, also you have the benefit of having a room a space that's set up for you. Yeah, and I lean very hard on the it department at late night with Seth Meyers And every time we do one I have to take everything out of a closet and set it up in our dining room and then break it down And yeah, that's teething. I visited josh recently and we had to I had to do a different podcast Yeah, and I said, can I use your podcast studio and you were like studio May I welcome you to the podcast table? Yeah Um, but yeah, and we are we are a family podcast and I want to thank you because Recently I've been traveling a lot and I could not do this week's podcast And so you had to call in a emergency co-host which was uh our mother who's uh, who's terrific I mean has a lot of good. Well good will from our listeners. Yeah, she's been on your show countless times And she's been guests on our podcast and uh, and it was you were not interviewing guests It was a listener episode. We often have our listeners sending stories or questions But you were saying backstage that she was still very nervous. Yeah very nervous But she was great and uh, there were some technical malfunctions where she Like she got kicked off the zoom and when they came back on they were yelling yelling at each other which is real Dad and mom were yelling at each other. Yes, which is a real flashback to our youth and uh, but And what in your best dad voice? What was he saying to mom when the zoom came back on? There's no need to panic There is no need to panic Um Yeah, he's very good that way. Yeah, um, it's lovely to be with all of you. Uh, thank you so much We have a podcast. I can't believe this is our third year doing family trips with the mayors brothers At uh on airfest. Well, we keep traveling. We do keep traveling and that's right and and the world keeps traveling as well Also, I you know for people who listen they know maybe not everyone here knows but you we have a very different way of hosting this show Yeah, which is I believe that uh, you know family trips is a is sort of a broad idea that you could take a trip down memory lane Of a family trip or you could also talk about your own biography and the trip It's led through your life. Whereas you uh, the many people stop talking about family trips. You're a fucking asshole I don't think i'm an asshole to them. I think i'm an asshole to you Yeah, because you want it like if I love that you don't think that counts if we're talking If we're talking to a stand-up you want to talk to them about like what's the room like in charlotte? Yeah, and it's like I don't think that's what people tuned in for. Yeah. Yeah, you're you could have a stand-up podcast You're a real scold. You're what's called a podcast scold. Well, I'd like to keep it You do like to keep it moving and I want to thank you for keeping it moving Now however many how many episodes have we done a family trip? I don't know. Yeah, I don't know either Um feels like we should we should know I did uh, I wrote some notes because there were some things uh things I wanted to ask you. Oh, were you I feel like um I this I'm wearing a wristband that says talent And I'm gonna be honest when they put this on me. I feel a little bit less talented You know when they put on a tiny little wristband like I feel like at the olympics when you go up to the podium They're not like let me just put a little athlete thing on your wrist. Yeah, I feel like you know the very You know just this should like say talent. Yeah a little risk in case people are wondering why I have a little wristband on Yeah, I don't know. I've always been uncomfortable with the term talent when you show up and someone says Oh, you're talent. Oh, I thought you meant when I show up, but you just mean in general in general I think it's a it's an odd term. Um, I've been doing a lot of traveling. Um, yeah, oh good. Let's get on topic. See. Yeah, there you go He knew who's very and we kind of I it's like been on a whirlwind. So we're On a force we were on a forced hiatus because the olympics were on mbc right and uh, I guess they decided that somehow my My show does less ratings than the luge So the luge gets first position Um, but I I took this opportunity to travel. Um, I went to london It was very exciting. Yeah, uh, I had a great time in london. That was work. That was work. Yeah, they're doing a usl uk that starts uh march 21st and uh, a whole British writing staff, a british cast very exciting They asked me if I'd come over and just sort of hang out for a few days and and share my meager wisdom with them But it was great and uh, the very exciting thing for me is I went I've A long time have been a fan of a british soccer team a football club called west ham And I literally have only seen them play once in my life like 25 years ago and this is a chance to go again and um, it was very exciting They were playing manchester united a far better club And I here was the part that I wanted to share with you which is I at first half No score and then at halftime I was lucky enough to get brought to this like sort of lounge with like luminaries of the team Over the years and uh, it was getting close to the end of halftime and obviously I want to be back in my seat I didn't want to miss any action and then someone's like, oh, you should you should meet this guy He you know he played for the club back in the 60s and um, you know, I don't know who this person is and um, but I'm very polite Yeah, you know you are and uh, and I'm like, you know, maybe this guy has some awesome story about playing for west ham back in the day And uh, they were like, this is seth. He's from new york. He had no idea who I was and he's like, oh new york We went to new york city in 1968 The buildings were so tall and then I just had to listen to him talk about new york Which is where I live, right He's like the subways are underground like just like nothing And he went on for so long a west ham scored. I missed the only goal Oh, no, I heard everybody scream and by the way like this guy like, you know, he's been he goes to every game He's he's goals all the time. He didn't care. Yeah Uh, so that was uh, that was sadly my story there. Yeah Yeah, I mean that's like being at a Super Bowl party and going to the snack table and someone's telling you about a dip Yeah, and you miss a touchdown, but the only touchdown We once uh, we're Pittsburgh Steeler fans and I remember that we uh, I guess it was The 1995 Super Bowl that season Super Bowl We were in college together and we watched the first half at a Super Bowl party And then we realized that we had to leave because we were losing we were they were losing and also people were still trying to Be human beings to us and we didn't want to And then we went to my apartment and do you remember what you did for the whole second half of that game? I laid under a blanket with a footballer with a terrible towel over my chest You laid very still with a terrible towel on your chest and they started we started coming back and you didn't move for 90 minutes I did my best. You did your best. We still lost but you did your best. Yeah, um, I also went on a ski trip With my wife and my three children. Um, we had a fantastic time. Yeah, we really we haven't really talked about this No, it was great because now we just save all these conversations for a podcast. Yeah And in general, I will say like, you know, there's a lot like my brother and I we're very close, but we never Talked we never had long phone conversations. No, because I talk a lot more now that we have a podcast Yeah, and you know, there's a lot of articles written about like the decline in adult male friendships And my advice would just be like start a podcast I highly recommend so you went skiing with your family I went skiing and uh See the minute I started not talking about a trip Where did you go, sir? We went I've never been to Montana and went back to Montana. It was great But um, mostly I just had stories about my children. I wanted to share We had room keys, uh, you know magnetic room keys and kids get really excited about keys I think there's something about it that like makes them feel the power of freedom. Uh, you know, like a nice Access right exactly a nine or seven year old. They're just kind of key obsessed. Um, and anyway, uh So I'm leaving all the my whole family was at breakfast and I'm like looking around I can't find a key Uh, so I don't have a key and then I go to breakfast and then Alexi's like, can you go back to the room? I need something and I'm like, of course and I'm like, uh, does anybody have a key and uh, axle my seven-year-old goes Oh, yeah, I do. How many do you need and he pulled five keys out? Like he just was like, I'm the key guy. Yeah Um, I will also say, you know, we obviously we grew up with kids of the we were children of uh, you know born in the 70s children of the 80s Arcade life was a big part of our life huge. Uh, we were at the hotel had an arcade like a classic Classic arcade, but like, you know, like ski ball pop a shot, you know of like some pac-man some like more modern stuff Uh, our kids are like very we don't have a video game system in the house. You know, they're very you know, we're pretty as you know Yeah, I will say I can't figure out what to do with this pillow. Yeah It's been a real battle. I know it's been a battle I'm gonna say pillow one josh zero So anyhow, yes, okay, uh, so any they uh, but I will say like it was Such an advertisement for not letting your kids play video games because the kids knew about the arcade And like we would go ski and then we'd have dinner in there like can we go to the arcade for half an hour? We'd be like, yes And it made it melt in our boys brains Like the post video game they could not even like comprehend like they became so addicted to like So you couldn't get them out of there? I couldn't get them out of there and then when I got them out of there They would like we get them like into the bathroom. They'd be like What are their games? What do they play? They were playing like some teenage mutant ninja turtle game like some race card game like all nonsense Yeah, like they were just like they just don't they're not used to it quarters or they no No, I think it was like that was even worse because it was like, uh, it was like, hey, these all these games are free Oh, yeah, so they didn't even have the appreciation of like running out of quarters. Yeah. Yeah We also uh, because we talk about and I feel like we as a family My family and our family growing up that thing of like in a car playing like road trip games You know, it's a very important way to pass the time, right? And so we were in a car and we had to drive to dinner And my daughter adi who is four had a a paper cup full of wasabi beans You know those like hard wasabi beans wasabi like wasabi peas. Yes, that's better. Yeah, that's that's uh, that's better Because that's what they're calling So they had like little wasabi peas and you know, they're like green and they got you know And uh, she likes them and she calls them basabis, you know great, you know, uh, obviously that's you wouldn't have corrected her If she said basabi peas. Yep. But wasabi beans you jumped all over me. Well you yeah, so, uh, she has her basabi peas and uh, and then we go to dinner and uh, You know we walk into the restaurant and the lexie takes the rest of it and just throws them away Right. We're a restaurant now then we get back in the car and adi asked for her basabi peas And she's like lexie's like we threw him away and she's like balling. She's so and she's in the car and she's like I want my basabi. She's so she's basab herself. Yeah And uh, she's screaming for him and then my son ash Says, oh, I let's play a game to take adi's mind off it. Good idea. And i'm so proud of him like oh my god That's such a good idea And uh, he goes well play a guessing game like great. Let's play a guessing game. Here's adi What's green and white and He goes what's green and white and spicy all over And adi like goes And I literally I go ash that maybe is the funniest thing you've ever said Yeah And then there was a small downside though, uh, which is he then uh told it He said it like 10 more times until we had to be like it's not funny anymore Right, but he has the thing he gets when he feels like he's got a good one. Uh, he'll ride it. 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We'd like to share a travel story. Hey bushy. Hey, sufi I've got a friend of mine's uh turning 40 in uh may and The problem with it is is that party is going to be raging at all hours and uh I've got a small subset of my friends because i'm not 40 sufi I'm a little bit older than that and we need something a little bit more low-key So we got a lovely charming nearby home on airbnb that is going to be sort of our Chill out wake up have coffee get home uh talk about the day pad uh for you know the more reserved set fantastic We've got our own pool. It's just going to be such a uh A port and the storm for us. 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I went to uh, I went to malan I went to uh, I got to go to the women's gold medal hockey game amazing unbelievable amazing unbelievable One of the greatest sporting events I've ever seen live And then I was uh, did the today show the next day and the entire team was there I got to meet them all it was they were so lovely so wonderful Um, wouldn't let me wear the medals Never none of them. No, I never really asked but I can't believe you wouldn't ask I know but it felt weird, you know, yeah like a little thirsty Right. Yeah, I mean you do you're wearing a wristband that says talent so Do you think if I was wearing this they would ask to try it on? um But I told the story of the show, but it was really funny because I went to the game and It was the vibe was so great and I I think there's a real obviously rivalry Between the u.s. And canada on the ice but the fans The canadian fans were so nice the american fans were so nice like the vibe in the arena was really positive. No fights. No fights Yeah, and uh, and I uh when I would like sort of walk through to you know to go to the concession or you know run the bathroom It was very lovely. I had very lovely interactions with people Uh american fans canadian fans a lot of people were asking to take pictures. It was very lovely and and great um, but then Multiple italian people who were also there Would then come over to me and they had no they would ask me who I was right Based on the fact that I'd taken photos with other people fair. They'd seen that and they're like, who are you? What and like a little aggressive like who are you? And I'm like and then I like puts you in this very you know Awkward situation of having to explain why other people want a picture with you. Yeah, right like I don't want it And I'm like, oh, I you know I have a television show in america and then a multiple of them were like, okay I'll get a picture And I'm like, don't don't do me any favors, you know And then another a security guard stopped me and he asked me if I was Hugh Grant Oh, well, they go he's like, are you a Hugh Grant? That's a real throwback. That's a real throwback for me I've gotten a and I was like, I'm not Hugh Grant and then he was a little Aggressive he thought this was exactly what Hugh Grant would say If he didn't want to take a picture, right? Yeah, like I'm like, I'm not Hugh Grant. He's like, yeah Let's get this picture. So then I Had to show I went on my phone and I showed him a picture Of me interviewing Hugh Grant And he was like, oh, okay, like he still was like, hmm. Yeah And then you know and what ha ha and then I went back to my seat and then the next time I went up He was like, I'll get a picture like he had to think about it He had to get over his disappointment that I wasn't Hugh Grant. Yeah, and uh, and then he took a picture with me Yeah, how do you think he's doing now? Uh, Hugh Grant or the italian the italian guy. I think he's my question is do you think let's let me ask you a question Do you think he's showing it to people saying this is me and Hugh Grant? Maybe yeah, I mean there's a chance that he's like if all italians are like me, this is close enough. Yeah I have a thing that's happening now where I play uh, governor Gavin Newsom on jimmy kimmel And every time a great one this week and every time I do People in the comments will keep saying I thought that was seth miers Even when you and I did something together on jimmy kimmel Yeah, people were like, oh seth miers does a great gavin Newsom and it's like he you walk out next to me Um, yeah, that's very funny. People think when people look like people they're those people. They're those people Yeah, I've got I've gotten sort of tagged as Newsom in like Trader Joe's and really in Hollywood And I'm like gavin Newsom's not at Trader Joe's My favorite our friend brennan hunt once we were uh, who uh from uh, Ted lasso and we worked with him in Amsterdam at boom chicago And we were doing a show I can't remember where I think we were in like, uh, houston or something He and I and uh, we were in a mall in houston and there was somebody walking wearing a houston astros jersey Uh that said bagwell, uh, jeff bagwell, uh, you know hall of fame baseball player And he's like oh my god, he goes and a guy did look like jeff bagwell and he's like I think that's jeff bagwell and i'm like I know it's not Because jeff bagwell wouldn't wear a jeff bagwell jersey To the mall right yeah to a game to a game only to a game Now that he's retired. Yeah, he could wear one. Uh one last thing, uh, I noticed about myself traveling recently And I wonder if this is true of anybody else, which is I have a terrible habit now of uh when i'm on an airplane Like if someone else is watching a movie on the back of their chair That I like I like find that i'm just like watching it Like like one row up and like one seat over And like I don't under like I also have the ability to watch that movie Right and I think it's if it's a movie. I've seen a bunch of times that like I feel like very um my time in an airplane Is very precious and I don't want to like waste it by like watching goonies Because I've seen goonies so many times right and yet if someone's watching goonies one seat up I'm like, oh man, that's goonies. Yeah And like I just kind of creep on it the whole time and I'm like, why am I not just watching goonies? Yeah, yeah You can you should thank you buddy. Yeah, also I should say flying too when you're flying with a family of five Which well, you know, we often do I feel like the airlines are like, you know where we think you will enjoy this flight the most Right next to the bathroom all the way in the back Like all our flights are like we're just like it's like five of us and a stranger in that like back room by the bathroom And uh our daughter alexi. I'm sorry my wife alexi and our daughter adi their best friends And and then me and the boys like are fine Right like nobody sees us and is like, oh Because it's just like I'm just like a uh like a av Uh like uh like concierge like it's just I've been on a train with you Yeah, it's just like headphones and iPads and adapters and splitters And like nobody's happy and just like the amount like within like five minutes of giving them an iPad. It's like so smudged up Yeah, it's like looking out a windshield during a blizzard And uh, yeah, it's not that much fun to fly. We did we flew together Last year me you and your boys out of leguardia to pittsburgh. Yeah for an annual family trip And I had booked a flight and for whatever reason it was like another 20 dollars for me to check my bag and be in first class And your boys were asking if they were in first class and you weren't yeah And I was and I got to board first and then you guys had to walk by me and I talked so much shit to my little nephews They were so sad about it. And I was like, where are you guys going? And I'm never in first class that and then they like it I don't know what is it like peanuts like they have a gate that I call like peanuts walk When they're so disappointed and if like they walk past like better seats anywhere they walk like this They also like in leguardia they sell Lego sets that couldn't be bigger. They sell like the death star. Yeah, and your boys were like, can we get this? And you're like, what's like we're going we're getting on a plane. Yeah to go to pittsburgh and then come back We're not buying a death star. Yeah that we would have to then carry with us to pittsburgh Yeah, and then back bring back to new york city. Yeah. Yeah, they gotta those kids got it wise up No, also though like hey leguardia. Maybe don't put a giant lego store on my way to the flight. Yeah very unkind The only way you can buy one is if you don't have a carry on and that becomes your carry on It's enormous and then you're just an adult who's bringing a giant lego set onto an airplane. Yeah We this was billed as having a special guest and due to weather Um, we went to a plan b that i'm gonna argue is kind of a plan a I think it's gonna be better and more interesting Than anyone we could have got and it's a little tied into the theme of family trips. Absolutely Someone who might have some insights about our family because they've been on trips with our family So, uh, please welcome to the stage my wife Mackenzie Rollins Thank you Oh, I didn't hug you. I didn't hug you. Mackenzie. Uh, I'm gonna start Like obviously my brother and I are very close and uh, you guys are married. Uh, but this is the first time we're meeting Yeah, I really thought I really thought the first time that I was ever gonna do anything like this would be in the comfort of our own home not like Right. Yeah, that's very true. You could have had you on the podcast sitting at your dining room table Yeah, I could have had my dog with me like nervously petting her. Yeah. Yeah Also, not not a performer. You're an equestrian by trade. Yeah, this is incredibly unnatural for me I'm like in a cold sweat right now. I understand your mom's nerves um, so you uh You met our our parents on vacation. Are you well? I first met your mother Before I met anybody else in the family because I was in Cape Cod with my mom. Oh, right You went to visit our mother and her sisters. Yeah, we had just started dating and she was with the geese in their Rental house. The geese is the name or collective name for a josh and mai aunts Yeah, because when they talk it sounds like a bunch of geese flying overhead. Let's do it quick This is like the din of their conversation would be just like Well, yeah, it was very much like that. Um So I was close to them and you were like, you should just go meet my mom and I was like Okay, yeah, so I grabbed a bottle of wine and my mom was like, should I come and I was like, no I don't think so. We've just started dating like I don't need to intro you into this family yet because she's a real wild card Yeah, yeah, um, but then meeting uh, our father Yeah, so I met Seth separately And then we were going to Amsterdam for Thanksgiving because it was right before your show started So it was the last Thanksgiving in Amsterdam, which you guys had been doing for years So when you asked me again, I felt the same way. I'm like in a cold sweat I was very nervous like kind of I'm going to go to Amsterdam and meet your whole like the rest of your family And it was a lexie and your father who I hadn't met yet and I was like terrified to meet both of them And I should know I mean because this is obviously a very unique situation You know Josh and I lived in Amsterdam. We worked for this theater. Our parents used to come and visit us at Thanksgiving in Amsterdam because we would go home for Christmas and we wouldn't be able to go back twice that close together And so it became this tradition like long after we left Amsterdam We would still go back to Amsterdam and we would have Thanksgiving there with our friends and the first time a lexie met My family I believe was also Uh in Amsterdam like I called her we just started dating. I'm like, I know this is crazy Do you want to fly to Amsterdam and spend Thanksgiving in a country that doesn't celebrate it? With my family and uh, and that's what we chose to do. Yeah, and we both lasted Here we are and we so we got in and had to like go take a nap at mom and dad's airbnb Well, yeah, because I had been so nervous and We're leaving la and josh was like you really need to sleep on this flight. It's a long flight We're gonna get there. We're gonna hit the ground running and I like brought something to help me sleep Did not sleep at all like but you did take like two of those things to help you sleep I took two of the things to help me sleep and a glass of wine and I was like, I'll watch another movie I'll watch another movie. I'll watch another movie and he woke up and was like have you slept and I was like No, I haven't I haven't slept at all and we get to Amsterdam And I immediately fell asleep on the train and then had no recollection of how we got to your parents apartment I like had no I was like, did we take a car? What did we do? Um, and then we passed out we took a little nap in their apartment and then we finally got to go to where we were staying and then the next night dad had like It wasn't dramatic It sounds dramatic, but he had a heart attack But didn't like know he had a heart attack. Yeah, so he woke up and he's like my arms hurt I'm gonna go to the hospital and they were like you had a heart attack Yeah, and it was uh, so we had to push Thanksgiving, which when you're in a country that doesn't celebrate Thanksgiving. Yeah easy to do um, because the doctor said uh Dad said like is there anything I shouldn't do and he said don't eat a whole turkey for at least 48 hours But I do remember your father very specifically said to me it was because I met you. Yeah, okay, larry. That was dad's joke. Yeah Oh my god, that's such a that's a really good let apex level dad joke Joke his breath away. Yeah, uh almost killed him. Yeah, but then I also almost killed myself. Yeah, you almost killed yourself How did you almost kill yourself in Amsterdam? So we were Um riding bikes, which I was also very nervous to do in a very busy city You guys were all very comfortable doing it. You'd been doing it for years and I was like Okay And it had just rained In the whole time of riding bikes. I just kept thinking about like I hope I don't hit a curb and like fall or Get hit by a car or anything and we're riding bikes I'm kind of like last in the train just like trying to make sure I can clock where everybody's going And they go up on a curb and I hit the curb wrong and like immediately lose control of the bike Going down a stairwell and I just went like I go with a bike at the top of the stairwell and it went crashing down and everybody stopped and everybody turned around and I was like I'm okay. I'm okay Where is your bike? It was terrifying. Yeah, and you're still Embarrassed by that like that picture will pop up. Yeah on our On our or a frame and she's always like I'm I'm still embarrassed and it's like it wasn't your fault We it's but it is very obviously, you know riding bikes in Amsterdam Like it's a bike city and like you're safe from cars But like it's a you know, the bikers are basically like commuters And so if you were a leisurely biker or recreational biker, it can be very intimidating And I remember when we lived there two of our closest friends bags and jake Came and visited and like this is right out of college And and they were coming to Amsterdam to do like the sort of classic stereotypical like Amsterdam in your 20s like they just wanted to like smoke weed and like, you know, eat french fries. Yeah But I got I rent we rented bikes Because it's it's crazy to be in Amsterdam and not, you know ride bikes And I had lived there for six months and we rented bikes and the one thing they tell you is like there's these tram tracks And you can't like when you cross the tram tracks You got to get perpendicular to them because there is a chance that your wheels could get like stuck in the tram tracks And now it's like it's just a the simplest thing to tell somebody and slowly rented our bikes We got on the bikes and I go oh last one last thing like when you cross the tram tracks, you know Like cross them this way so you don't get stuck in the tram tracks and they both they were also already a little stone and they were like what And I was like you would get stuck in the tram track and they're like and then what happens and I'm like Then you're just just don't worry about it. 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Of course. You see what i'm doing. I do see what you're doing. I wanted them to see what you're doing Yeah, well, it's funny. We're staying with my friend sofia and her husband ben and their daughter lola who's 11 And I think I was around lola's age when I got this christmas present from my mom And I had always wanted to go to disney And my mom is like not a theme park lady. She's not a ride lady. She's definitely not a disney lady but she Got us tickets to disney and put the tickets in an envelope in a big box That had like tons of peanuts so I had to dig around for it and we have this really cute Picture of me. It's a polaroid and I'm like And um At the time we were getting our floors sanded at the house So this was like the excuse to get out of the house and she like went all out We decided to go camping at the disney campground if that's going all out. Yeah All out part was we were then like there was a second part of the yeah There's a second part of the trip and she had like sent down all this camp gear and when we got there She's like we're gonna get it We're gonna get a convertible and I was like oh, this is just the coolest thing ever So we got this convertible. We go camping. It's really fun. And then we go down to key west and we just had this great road trip and we ended up stopping at like a pet store and I was like enamored with the birds and She decided that it was going to be a great idea For us to get a bird and bring it home with us Move over death star lego set So we got this cockatiel cockatiel that I named tiki But we had No bird supplies at the house and it was the dead of winter and but wait. Well, you bought it in florida Yes, and then how do you get it home in a shoebox? Gotcha on the plane or do you just give the bird directions? We live in Massachusetts It was our little carry on and I like played with it on the plane. That's crazy I don't think you could do that now. That seems yeah, it seems very weird to like be like this is I mean, well, you could do it now, but it would have to be an emotional support bird. We get home And it's the dead of winter. We don't have a bird cage So we flip the laundry basket upside down and stuck a few sticks in it. Yeah This is now if you're a florida bird. This is now an abduction. Yes Like when you're in a new england upside down laundry basket Yeah, you're like, who are these monsters and then we were just suddenly bird people So then we had to get another bird so that this bird had a friend, but then they had babies Oh birds. So then all my friends ended up having birds But the birds were scary to you. No, no, no, these were cockatiels. These ones were not scary We ended up with a scary bird later on in life, right? They would like walk around and come bite you it would come at you. Yeah It was very scary. Yeah, I don't I by the way, uh your mother who is like Genuinely a character that would be a great Work of fiction. Yeah, like the fact that she's real. I only believe because I've met her. Yeah But like that's like a real linda trip, which is like, we're gonna be frugal We're gonna stay at a campground. Yep. Also. We're getting a convertible and a bird Yeah Like she's just all over the place that is life with linda. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, we went on a Our trip with the three of us and my wife Alexi Uh before we had kids we went to Iceland Uh, we went to Iceland in the dead of winter. Yeah for new years for new years And I was a great trip, but it was like very little daylight Yeah, and we've talked a lot about you are an equestrian you ride horse all the time We went on what are the name of the iceland horses? Icelandic ponies Icelandic ponies impossible to remember That's a tough one. Well, they have a gate. They have a gate called the tult. That's what I can't really Yeah, the gate is called the head you ever ridden on a horse with a tult before I had not did you enjoy the I wouldn't say that we were tolting though. No a tolte is a very fast. Well, you can probably describe it I like it when you describe it. It's a it's a fast run, but you can be on an icelandic pony. It's a trot not a run It's a trot And and like you could have a glass of champagne and it wouldn't like it wouldn't even wobble. It's very smooth And but we were not tolting. We were not tolting. We went on this ride It was freezing and it really was just this icy road that we went up and then we turned around and came back It was not the best tour but I was terrified Because you guys are not horse people and we had two other people with us who were on the ride And no instructions were given whatsoever a couple of the ponies were being a little naughty The guide was way out in front and I lost control and jumped off and my horse went down the stairs You just let go he told he told him down the stairs. Yeah Um, and I ended up like getting off and swapping horses. I don't it was you you became a professional Like you felt as though the icelandic horse people were not paying enough attention and giving enough kind Instruction to the rest of us so your nerves were not that you were afraid of being on the horse You just saw the rest of us and you were like, whoa, whoa, whoa Yeah, but did you also see that that black sand beach that we went to has like been washed away? No, I didn't know that where I almost got washed away. Yeah. Yeah, we did a uh It was like the slo-mo feature on the cameras was a new thing Yeah, and so we wanted to get a slo-mo of a wave coming in and you running away from it And we got warned about rogue waves as well. Yeah, we got a by the way when you get warned about a rogue wave You're like, no, they're not. Yeah, it's like they explain it to you, but you don't believe it's true Um, and so I got a good video of her But I was like you were a little bit too far ahead of the wave Let's do one more closer to the water mackenzie and I was like, yeah, and she got closer and really this wave came And hit you like in the back of the thighs It swallowed me and it could have it was like up to my waist. Yeah in water, but it's a great video. It's a great video Yeah, but we did have to wrap your feet in uh plastic bags To try to keep them warm for the rest of the day It was a really exciting trip. We've talked about it. It was we went we went to a hot spring a natural hot spring And uh, we had a guy who like just like sort of marched us over a snowy hill Also, he what did he talk to us? What do they believe in? Uh trolls trolls. Yeah Talked to us a lot about like how it was this weird thing where he was like, you know, there's a real troll culture here Like, you know, we believe in trolls and it was like ha ha and he's like they live over there. I'm like, wait, is this You know what I mean? Like are we like talking about it as if it's real now or is it like mythology and he's like Well, no, of course it's mythology, but like also that's where they live But we went to this hot spring and it was freezing cold Yeah, and we had to strip down to our bathing suits and jump in the spring. Yeah, which was incredible. Yeah Um our guide I wouldn't say you jumped in though because the water was like maybe this steep It was that's true and you had to use it In and then just like lay there with your head and there was not a lot of A room and then our guides stripped down fully naked. Yeah, and like where we were I feel like was eye level with like his whole Awkward piece of business. Yeah. Yeah, but didn't one of you get stuck in your clothes? I got stuck. Yeah trying to take my clothes off and And then there happened to be another group of like 12 people walking up on us And I could it was one of those things where your long underwear can't Get your socks off and your legs stuck and it's freezing and it's freezing and I was also naked. Yeah at that moment I when we got out I I have very bad uh like Mike's extremity. Was that right? Circulation bad circulation the tips of my finger is like it's awful And we got out and I had also Undressed the way I undress every time in my life, which is I just left everything in a pile So I got out and it was like now you're wet and it's freezing and you don't have a lot of time to get dressed And I remember it was so bad. I couldn't get my gloves on and I Literally said to my wife. I'm like leave me here to die Like that's how miserable I was you were having It was like I was just like just go just go. I'm this is I deserve this. This is where I'm gonna die Just leave me to the trolls with the trolls Um, yeah did you uh Have you observed uh anything from our parents on vacation that uh, you would like to share I think When we all first started hanging out the thing that was Hard was deciphering the language that you guys all have and I was like what? What are they even talking about because it was like novres this and the sufi poshi thing was not Something everybody knew and I was like, yeah, sufi and poshi is how we address each other. Yeah And then hurry and yeri. Yeah, but then it's just I mean the way You guys speak in such ease in this language, but it's there's things that are interchangeable words that are interchangeable And I'm like, I don't even I'll just kind of sit here. You've picked up on it. I know and now there's myers pretty well Yeah, yeah, yeah, I will say his family trips go. Um, I know what? October will be second anniversary, right? Yes ours. Yeah um second second yeah, but um You're sorry you're not married to your nap. I mean you've known each other a long time you've been together a long time But uh as family trips go I will say your wedding was an exceptional one Yeah, and uh very exciting for my kids to be a part of a wedding. Yeah, it was only uh Uh nieces and nephews were the only children and no kids were allowed right? Yeah. Yeah, and so they loved that. Yeah They had the run of the place also. I don't know. I'm you know Look, we're not kids anymore, and I don't know if I'm allowed to say this, but here's how I know you had a great wedding Uh somebody hooked up Yeah In the sauna in a sauna in a sauna and we're discovered Yeah, we're discovered and we found out about it because one the younger brother of the dude who was hooking up on that trip the younger brother is like Very high functioning autistic, but can't lie and so we were like hey, what time did finn go come to bed? And he was like finn came to bed at 5 22 a.m. We're like what? It was like everything like we were done by 230 like what was he doing? I thought we were the last ones and we're like in the woods in the cat skills and it's like to 5 22 And it's like if adin says it was 5 22 that's what time it was So yeah, so yeah good wedding. It was really fun And I do think we were aside from finn and my friend The last ones up every night. Yeah And we were not supposed to be but yeah, no we uh Yeah, I woke up pretty hung over the morning of our wedding and had to tell mom and dad You have to leave your room so I can sleep in this room. Yeah, because my room is being used Right you to get ready. Yeah, and I need if I don't sleep for an hour or something It's gonna be a bad scene. Yeah, it's it's sometimes hard to get mom and dad out of a room in the morning Yeah, well they sleep they love they're like 10 hours Who was it last summer in Amsterdam that you that you guys had to I had to wellness check them Because they slept for 13 hours. Yeah, and so what did you how did you wellness check? You went to the hotel and I was like my parents aren't answering their phones. They're staying here. Can you please? Call them and then I went up and like their hair was all over the place and they were like they weren't yeah And that we went um, what was that theme park called that we went to the Efteling We went to the Efteling and that was the first theme park my mom had been to since our disney land trip Wow to tie it all back to your mom Very nice tie it back Your mom seems like and I say this with love if she's listening seems like the kind of woman whose picture Is like back in the security area of a theme park that says do not admit All right, so we uh, we do a speed round a lightning round of questions at the end of every pod and uh, you're gonna ask your wife these questions exciting Uh, what is your favorite kind of vacation? Is it relaxing adventurous or educational adventurous? um Boy, I should really know all these what's your favorite means of transportation horse If you could go on a vacation with any family alive or dead real or fictional other than your own family What vacation what family would you like to know? I listen to this podcast all the time and I always go What would I what would I say if they ever asked me that question and I've still not come up with an answer? Well, you have to think of some family Um, it's not binding It's not binding. No, you can change it if you want to come back on any episode you can pop in Since I know now your studio is in the middle of your kitchen Okay, so I can change my answer in the future. I mean Ben and Sophia go on really great trips. Yeah, we do the shirwoods Yeah, the shirwoods are great. No, she's still serbino. Right, right, right. Yeah, but they take very good trips If you oh, this is gonna be a tough one for you if you uh, we're stranded on a desert island with one member of your family Who would you want it to be? It would definitely be you. Oh, honey um What is your linda your mom linda's on on an island with the birds she's with the birds. Yeah Um, your dream destination for a family vacation Wait, is this a new one? Yeah Maybe you haven't been listening Um I I really want to go To Antarctica. Okay interesting, um, I I will not be joining I want to go to the Galapagos too. Oh, yeah, I do that too. I'll go I'll go to both of those places with you You're from Shelburne Falls, Massachusetts. I am Shout out to Shelburne Falls If you wanted to get some more families to come visit Shelburne Falls, uh, how would you sell that town? It's so cute Um, it really is there's a beautiful bridge of flowers, which is where we got engaged And it's just I feel like bridge of flowers like and people can kind of race by that Can you explain what the bridge of flowers is? so the town it the town of Shelburne Falls is made up of Shelburne and Buckland and They're connected across the river originally by this trolley bridge and then they built the iron bridge Which is next to it once everybody started getting cars and so the Bridge of flowers is now just a walking bridge and it's a garden And the women's club of Shelburne Falls maintains it my stepmother's on the club, right on the board on the board And they just um, this will be the first year that it's open It was closed last year because they had to sort of shut the whole thing down and dig up all the plants and do all the Repairs to the bridge. So it's very exciting just to make it a little more fun And there's because there's so much true crime in the podcast world. It was shut down last year because there was a murder Well, they did film dexter there. They did film an opening of the like most recent dexter or maybe two dexters ago I don't know how there was a murder. Yeah, there's a lot of dexters right now. Yeah a lot of dexter timelines But it's like a very classic Quaint New England village like there's no stop lights. It's very walkable. There's lots of cute little restaurants and a lot of good hiking and like There's a little ski resort and like 20 minutes outside of town half an hour. So there's mountain biking and rafting river rafting. I think there is. We haven't done that. But yeah, there is. Yeah, um And then seth has our final questions. Mackenzie. Have you been to the Grand Canyon? I have and uh, was it worth it? Totally. Really? Yeah. Okay quick question for the audience Show the hands audience how many of you have been to the Grand Canyon? All right, and now bring your hand keep them up Bring them down If it wasn't worth it Yeah, you're the holdout. Thank you. What you're the holdout. I mean, I'm just saying like it's like It should just be called canyon and then I think it's great I just feel like now I think it's just like they oversell it a little bit with grand because you go and you're like You've gone so hard about being anti Grand Canyon that now you just have to keep going with it Like you might even totally love it I have I like I have to keep doubling down on the Grand Canyon being a bit of a bust. Yeah Look, I mean again, there's other wonders of the world and I think they're great Which one what what are the other wonders of the world? Do you want to go to? Um, uh, uh, the um, uh, the six flags Isn't it with six flags in new jersey one of them? The pyramids would you want to do the pyramids? No, all right I mean, I'm sorry. What I will all look here's the thing if you if I was on like a tolting horse I would love to like race by all these while I'm having my champagne. All right. I just don't want to make a day of it Right. Yeah, you know what I mean? Yeah, I feel bad that like people like how long it took to build the pyramids I'm like, I don't have a day Thank you Mackenzie for joining us. Thank you on air for having us Thank you. This is a delight. We hope we can join you again next year. Have a great day At your podcast festival Thanks everybody You You You Come passion super life from Brooklyn another year at the on air fest Too fast stories traveling with family or she says Went on a ski trip his middle kid. Yeah Oh, we had all the keys and his daughter was distraught when his oldest boy brought up was sabi peas But the snow made it so hard to travel there Airports were canceling flights. So our guest Our guest was my wife Yeah, our guest was my wife Yeah Sweet mother kenzie thought it was scary riding bikes out in Amsterdam Almost rode her bike down a stairway Jumped off in the nick of time We went to Iceland to go for swimming. Oh hit by a sneaker wave Meanwhile posh was just filming thanks to the trolls there. She was saved They got those big fuzzy horses. So we signed ourselves up with a guide and took a bath Icelandic pony ride Oh, I'm a pony ride Yeah One Christmas her mom got her a present Big trip to travel to disney sent camp gear so they could sleep at the campground bought a bird named tiki I mean, it's not your everyday purchase No, it sounds insane But they did it on impulse brought a bird home and a box on the plane But it's one of those stories that sticks It sticks with you for your whole life. There was a trip Trip story from my wife. Oh gosh. I just love my wife You