Big Louis Vuitton Baggage (RHOA Recap)
46 min
•May 4, 202626 days agoSummary
Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge recap the latest Real Housewives of Atlanta episode, discussing a cast trip that turns contentious when new cast members refuse to attend dinner over room assignments, sparking heated arguments about entitlement, gratitude, and interpersonal dynamics within the franchise.
Insights
- New cast members' behavior on trips can set the tone for entire seasons; refusing to attend host-planned events signals entitlement rather than establishing boundaries
- Social media posting during production creates unnecessary drama and speculation; cast restraint protects storyline integrity and production schedules
- Hosts should communicate room assignments proactively to avoid perception of favoritism; lack of transparency breeds resentment among cast members
- Franchise longevity and consecutive seasons create power dynamics that newer cast members may underestimate when challenging established hosts
- Personal relationship dynamics (divorce, custody, ex-partner cooperation) significantly impact a housewife's ability to control her narrative and job security on the show
Trends
Liquor brand partnerships becoming standard revenue stream for reality TV personalities (Cynthia/Adrienne tequila, Shamiea rum ventures)Health and wellness optimization (peptides, HRT, blood work analysis) becoming mainstream discussion among affluent women over 50Private jet travel shifting from luxury rental to advertising/trade partnerships as companies seek affordable brand placementNew reality TV cast members testing boundaries and refusing traditional expectations, signaling generational shift in franchise cultureCelebrity social media engagement with reality TV content increasing (Rihanna, Megan Thee Stallion commenting on Housewives episodes)Prenuptial agreements gaining prominence in discussions about financial protection and infidelity risk managementRoom assignments and accommodations becoming major production conflict points, suggesting increased cast expectations and entitlementFranchise casting focusing on younger, less experienced women who lack understanding of unwritten rules and production dynamics
Topics
Real Housewives of Atlanta cast dynamics and new member integrationReality TV production logistics and filming schedulesDivorce, custody agreements, and ex-partner cooperation in reality televisionPrenuptial agreements and financial protection in marriageHormone replacement therapy and peptide treatments for agingLiquor brand partnerships and celebrity business venturesSocial media strategy for reality TV cast membersInfidelity and relationship trust in long-term marriagesEntitlement and gratitude among reality TV cast membersPrivate jet travel and luxury travel trendsHealth optimization and biohacking for women over 50Generational differences in reality TV cast behaviorHost responsibilities and cast management on group tripsConflict resolution and friendship dynamics in ensemble castsCelebrity social media influence on reality TV viewership
Companies
Gigaclear
Rural broadband provider offering fiber connectivity from 19 pounds per month; advertised during episode
iHeartRadio
Podcast distribution platform hosting Two Tees in a Pod and other shows mentioned throughout episode
Netflix
Streaming platform where Teddi watched documentary series about cults during filming break
Seagrams
Liquor company Cynthia previously partnered with for business venture before new tequila brand
Canva
Design software platform featured in mid-roll advertisement for creating social media content
EE
UK mobile network provider advertising Google Pixel 10 Pro XL smartphone with AI features
Wizz Air
Budget airline advertising spring/summer deals and new routes from London Luton airport
Villamiria
New Zealand Sauvignon Blanc wine brand advertised as suitable for various occasions
People
Teddi Mellencamp
Co-host discussing RHOA episode and sharing personal health and family experiences
Tamra Judge
Co-host providing analysis and comparative insights from Orange County franchise experience
Kristen Hananian
Health professional specializing in blood work, hormone optimization, and peptide therapy; guest on podcast
Cynthia Bailey
RHOA cast member hosting group trip; subject of episode recap discussion
Angela Amedu
RHOA cast member engaged in major conflict during trip; praised for housewife skills
Kandi Michelle
RHOA cast member who refused to attend dinner; subject of entitlement discussion
Kelly Rowland
RHOA cast member dealing with ex-partner custody issues affecting filming participation
Pinkie Cole
RHOA cast member involved in major argument with Angela; defended absent cast members
Adrienne Maloof
Former RHOBH cast member launching black cherry tequila brand with Cynthia Bailey
Emily Simpson
RHOC cast member praised for fitness transformation and body composition maintenance
Rihanna
Celebrity who commented on RHOA episode on social media, indicating fan engagement with franchise
Megan Thee Stallion
Celebrity fan of Real Housewives franchise who engages with content on social media
Shamiea Morton
RHOA cast member who refused to attend dinner; discussed for unusual bathroom habits
Drew Sidora
RHOA cast member accused of being dishonest about knowing other cast members
Phaedra Parks
Former RHOA cast member referenced in discussion about Pinkie Cole's physical appearance
Eddie Judge
Tamra's husband; discussed regarding peptide research and fitness challenges in fifties
Sophia Mellencamp
Teddi's daughter; recently began filming; experienced stomach illness during trip
Quotes
"I'm a prize. I'm a prize. I had somebody say that to me, too. How about go fuck yourself? You're not a man. You know what a real man says? I got you. I got your kids and I and I and I got your back."
Tamra Judge•Mid-episode
"All guys cheat."
Kandi Michelle•During RHOA recap
"Don't make the person feel bad about a trip that they planned. And just because it's dirt, like it's a beautiful house, got your own pool and you're with your friend, it's not like she put you in a trailer."
Teddi Mellencamp•Trip discussion
"Angela is so good at housewifing. She keeps her cool. She delivers her insults and just has her fan blowing her. She's so good at it."
Tamra Judge•Fight analysis
"If your kids can't film, you probably shouldn't be talking shit about your ex on the show because he will not sign for your kids to film."
Teddi Mellencamp•Kelly Rowland discussion
Full Transcript
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Did I tell you I had Sophia in the ER for her stomach when I got home from the trip? I had to take her the next day at the ER. I spent the whole freaking night at the ER. She's was having really bad stomach problems and really bad cramping and pain and between her ribs. And then guess what? I ended up with it. Oh, so it's like a flu. I don't know. I don't know, but we both finally started yesterday and she's like, did it calm down? She's like, yeah, finally. And then minded to we get, she's really good about all the herbal remedies and natural stuff and she had me go and get in all this stuff and. Did it work? Yeah, it worked. It worked. And then, you know, the, everyone, the doctor's like, oh, well, we don't, it's probably stress. It's probably, but that's a shut up. I thought. Shut up. Fuck all the way off. Um, I do have these episodes. I get like gastritis and divert to get it. Yeah, yeah. It's in your family. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep. Um, but, um, I've been seeing some rumors and I want to know if you can clarify this. I saw some rumors that you started filming. You started filming and you went back to the scene of the crime at rails and you're starting off your season there. Is that true or false? So you can't speak of it. No, we did not start filming. We all met for dinner at rails. Oh, okay. People think if, you know, you're with some of your fellow castmates, you're instantly filming. That's why fellow castmates maybe shouldn't post when we're, when we're meeting before we film. Yeah. Why do there's lots of rumors out there that they're saying like, you guys have started filming. Why would you start there and all these things? And I'm like, yeah, that's why you shouldn't tell me. No one should have posted. I didn't post, but I didn't post because I was being compliant. I didn't post cause I suck at posting. There's one thing that's really great about Orange County is we really try not to post. We tried very hard not to post when we're filming. Like sometimes if two girls, like two girls are out, they might post picture. No big deal, but like to give things away. So hopefully your cast will not do that this year and get away. I'm going to tell you that on your cast, you're not big posters, period. Like, you just not. Like I don't see, although Emily's been posting quite a bit with that body in the bikini. She looks amazing. What the hell is that? Emily. Emily. Does she tell us exactly what she does? Cause I want to know. She's very open at what she does and she's working out and she is, she just really does have a beautiful body and she looks amazing. It's insanity. Okay. She's like supermodel now. Okay. She is the GLP one anomaly of person that didn't lose muscle from taking it. Right. She's just, but there's something we should get her on here and talk about it. She didn't lose muscle. She didn't get saggy. No, she doesn't need a facelift. A tummy tuck and nothing. She is like, she's beautiful. It's fake. I know it's good for you. She looks so good. I'm so proud of her. I love the backhanded compliment from, I don't even want to say her name. Oh, slob. Yeah. I know that was so mean. Yeah. Like was that supposed to be nice? I don't even know. And insulting her than saying she's like a supermodel. Yeah, that, that wasn't cool at all. Just learn how to say nice things. That's, listen, Emily's doing it the right way as far as working out and eating, you know, healthy and then also combining it with, you know, weight loss. I'm looking at my routine here right now. Tea, red light therapy, dry brush. I've done all those. I mean, anti-inflammatory, paleo diet. Dude, no, I met with, you know, I met with Kristen. Okay. And she, you know, she obviously, she's in Florida, but any ladies out there that are wanting to do their blood work and figure out how somebody can fine tune the hormones and peptides and all that, we had her on the pod. She lives in Florida, right? So I did my blood work. Kristen Hananian is her. Yes. She's lovely. And she's in her fifties, right? And she is ripped. Her body is amazing. So, um, I'm going to trust in that just by that right there. And I get my results this week. So, you know, I met with her because of, you know, my hormone levels are just declining. She did send me a little voice note saying, whoa, like there's some genetic stuff. There's some like, you know, no testosterone, no estrogen. No, you didn't, you don't have HRT. I do, but it's not working. Why? I don't know. I don't know. It's fine. I don't, I don't know. Dolores, what's going on in our body that isn't absorbing what we're putting into it to fix it. Well, maybe it's the, I'm using creams. I know there's other, there's patches, there's injections or all these things. Okay. There's so many peptides. Me and Eddie have really been going down the rabbit hole of peptides. We watched another documentary about one and just doctors speaking on them and all the misinformation and all the good information that we don't know. And so it's very intriguing. Um, still injecting myself with stuff scares the shit out of me. Well, I mean, it should, you know, it's smart that that, that it should, and you should know what you're doing. And, you know, Kristen is very, very well versed in all of this. Yeah. So instead of going down the rabbit hole and instead of looking at all these different things and listening to all these different people, go to one person that knows what they're doing and hope that that's the right person. Yeah. That's what I'm going to do. I'm going to try to get my hormones straightened out then on. There's so many like peptides for skin and building muscle and, and what I understand as peptides are something we already have in our body. Right. So it's just enhancing up. So, so aging as we age, everything stops producing and even at his complaining, like he works out like crazy and relatively good diet. Um, and he's like, wow, they're not joking. You're getting your fifties and it's really, really hard. Yeah. So there's a, I mean, if you look at Kristen's husband, I mean, he's got the body of a 25 year old. So he's in his sixties. I want to do what he's doing. Well, listen to Kristen, cause he does. Yeah. Watching a good, you're probably too busy, but I've had a few days off. I watched a couple of good or unshut the unchosen, I think it was on Netflix. It's about living in cult. Oh my God. I highly recommend anybody that hasn't watched it to watch it. It's like eight, maybe episode and I was, it's good. Did you finish all eight episodes at one time? Cause you know, I'm not at one time. It took me two days, but I did since. Yeah. This week, because this is my last week of filming. Oh, I'm so jealous of you. Yeah. So this, uh, in the past five days, it's been a little bit slow because they're doing like confessionals and things like that. So not a lot of filming. So, um, yeah. So I'm at the home stretch, baby. You know, so that's the second thing this, that since we're talking that I'm mad at you, you're losing weight and not trying. And you're finished filming. So now we can't be friends right now. Well, you know what happens is like when I film and then doing the podcasts, yeah, it's, it's a lot on me. So I do the podcast and I go get ready, then I go film and then I get home and I prepare for the podcast and I get up the morning and it's all over, you know, I'm on like a hamster wheel. So I am the type of person like if I'm busy, I just don't eat, but I also don't drink water either. That's not good. No. So I'm a shriveled up old raisin over here. All right. Well, you don't look it and I'm happy for you. Mazel tov that you are done filming. So are you excited? You start filming here pretty soon. I'm nervous. You start. I'm not ever nervous. Okay. Let me take that back because I don't use those words. I am anxious to start getting going, you know, um, and, and I hope that they put the girls, the new girls to work. I really, really do because we've all put our time in and, uh, they should really spend a lot of time on them. Yeah. But I'm already, yeah. Thinkin you guys all got to work. You're all going to have to work. So it's, it's going to be interesting to see, but no, no, I know you guys just comes natural for you guys because you've done it for so long. But, um, are you going to go into the season any different than you in the, from the past? No. You know what? No, I am going to take a day by day. That's, that's what I'm going to do. Cause this is, you know, we're, we're, uh, treading on new waters for all of us. These girls are starting. They don't know how they're going to be on camera. They don't know what this show is going to evoke from them. They don't know what filming will evoke from them. Do you even really know what's in you to be like or do when this hits you, when you get a taste of this? If you're doing it for the fame, when you get a taste of that, or when you get a taste of like, does it change you? It never changed me, Tamara. No, I never felt like any different than no matter what's happened in my life, whether I've had money, whether I don't have money, I've been consistently the same. You're going to stay true to yourself, but not everybody does. And I don't know what it'll bring, what it'll bring out in these girls. And we don't know what to expect. Like, you know, watching Atlanta and watching how things went down at this table with this argument, I'd like to hear what you have to say about that. I'm very interested. And watching, like, I feel like there's such a sense of entitlement, you know, that I want to talk about more, like somebody plans a trip and you decide you're not going to show up because you don't like your room. Let's get into it, guys. I want to recap Atlanta. But we have to let you know this before we start that Rihanna just commented saying she wouldn't want to fight with with Angela. And, you know, Rihanna, thank you so much for watching these crazy housewife shows. And she's a fan of the shows and she's spoken out before. A lot of people are, you know, Meg the Stallion is, too. I know. I want to meet with her. Now Angela is one of her girls. So she watched Atlanta last night and commented. It's so crazy. You know, me and Sophia got our nails done the other day and she said, mom, it's really crazy for me to like just see something on TikTok about, you know, your life or our life. And it's just crazy to me still after all these years of being on TV and having people that we don't even know make a comment or make a TikTok about she goes, I saw a TikTok about Tuscan homes and our home that we she was with, you know, we were married, I was married to her dad, was in this TikTok and she went, what the heck? That's that's a house I was born in. So she's like, it's just so weird, you know, but it's so I remember Chloe Kardashian. I've talked about this comment on my Facebook post and I like, oh, my God, it's so cool. I don't think that you ever get used to that. So if Rihanna would have commented on me, I would have probably fainted. Hey, this is Robert from the stuff to blow your mind podcast. Joe and I are both lifelong Star Wars fans, so we're celebrating May the 4th with a brand new week of fun, thought provoking Star Wars related episodes. Join us as we tackle science and culture topics from a galaxy far, far away, such as the biology of Tontons and Wampas on the ice planet, hot or the practicality and corporate business sense of the Sith rule of two. Listen to stuff to blow your mind on the I heart radio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. Well, let's get into what she was talking about because there was this is quite an episode. So it starts off, we see an old housewife, Adrienne Maloof, former Beverly Hills housewife with Cynthia, and they're going into a tequila business. Yeah. Adrienne's going into tequila business with Cynthia. With Cynthia. Another tequila brand. Good luck, guys. Well, she wasn't Cynthia doing Seagrams as well. I don't know, but we have two liquor businesses coming out. We have Shamia. Oh, the rock. Her rum. Rum. And now we have this and then we have also I'm looking at it right now. Angela, I have it up there. I try to really, really the what is it? Rodrigo, I try to Cynthia was with Seagrams for years and, you know, listen, hey, all the power to you while you're on the show, capitalize on what you can. I am not against it. And I try to support everyone be smart, be smart with your brand, your branding. Oh, me? Everybody, I have to put my name on something yet. Yeah, just be really smart with your branding. Don't dilute yourself. They did the whole opening sequence was kind of a dynasty related. I thought it was really cute. Did you like it? No, didn't hit. Didn't hit with me. And I'm a big dynasty whore. I loved it. I remember growing up on it. My sister Valerie used to watch it all the time, but it just didn't. I didn't there. There was a reboot of it and I tried to watch that. I watched like one season got into it. But what do you what's your thoughts on Black Cherry? Tequila, is that what she's making? Black Cherry Tequila like Fajas Magina? Why love the taste? I like Black Cherry Cola. I like black. I like the taste of Black Cherry. I'm going to try it and I'm not a drinker because Paul wants me to enjoy tequila with him, which I don't. So maybe this will get bring us together in that way and we could bond over some type of tequila taste. But what I liked more was what would Fajas say in that referring to her tea as her Black Cherry. And that to me will never make me drink that in the same way because I just love that was the best comment ever. Well, we're getting a little little more of Fajas One Liners in this episode. I'm a little quiet this season. Another friend I need to reach out to who I haven't spoke to and I love her. I haven't talked in a while either. How do these girls look good all the time? Dung to the nines. It is I don't know. I don't know. Now, Kaye Michelle says she fears the cattyness may take place on the girls trip. I'm like, no shit. They say that what they do is they're like, hey, girls, if you have any un, you know, if you have anything brewing, save it for the trip. That's what they do. Do you remember your first trip 105 and five years ago? I do. It was to San Diego. And I had never been away on a girls trip. Now, back then get this, we would go on a girls trip. It was evolution. It was Doug Ross that ran it. I think Kathleen French as well. And we would get gifts. We would get there in production would give us one year they gave us, I believe, Gucci purses. Stop it. Yeah, I know. I'm like, bring those days back. Bring those days back. Yeah. We don't treat it as lunch, girl. Well, now we don't get lunch. But yeah, I was super nervous. I had never been on a girls trip. You know, I was in my thirties. I had kids, baby like Sophia was only a few years old. So you don't I didn't do that. No, I never. So that was my first. It was 19 years ago, by the way, when you went on that trip. Oh, my gosh, that's crazy. My first 10 years ago. And that's when I slammed my hands down on the ground and I go, I've had enough of it all, I broke my Rolex on the counter. You did not. I did. I did. But I wasn't afraid of going because I knew all the girls. I mean, Teresa is not, you know, a new person for me in my life, nor was Melissa. I was close with Siggy. I had, you know, Jacqueline was in my life forever. I had they were all my friends, but a girls trip was that was my first. And I'm dying believing that came Michelle like. This is your first girl strip. Girls trips for women, sorority sisters. I mean, they start young. Yeah. You know, it's not like. Not everybody does girls trips like my mean, none of my sisters in their entire life will ever go on a girls trip. I want to go on a girls night. I don't either. Like even to this day, other than filming, I'm not a big like, hey girls, let's get together and go away for the weekend. Maybe I should be. I don't know. It's just, I don't know. I just feel like I'm on this just hamster wheel of life always. Like same thing. But I think what I love and I always love about sorority sisters and girl groups that do that, I love that for them. I love that they enjoy that and they get it because it's just done. I don't think it's done enough. Yeah, I need to do a camaraderie about it. You know, I think the last time I did like a girl, like I organized a girls trip. It was like six years ago and rented a house in Temecula and invited a bunch of girls, Gina was Gina from our show was she went and we went to the wineries and we stomped grapes and we did all that. And I'm like, how did I have time to plan all that? Obviously, I wasn't as busy as I am now. Well, sometimes you just do it. I don't think there's ever a time you have to make the time. But speaking of the next thing is that Kay Michelle has a few interesting things and she says, all guys cheat. Did you see that? I did see that. What I'm thinking of right now while we're talking about these girls trip is it's funny, more guys go on guys trips, fishing trips to Costa Rica. Eddie goes in dirt bikes. Dominican Republic fishing trips, the Cabo fishing trips. Mm hmm. Listen, guys, you ain't shitting me. And so you think guys are cheating when they go on trips? Do you? Does that concern you? It doesn't concern me. I don't give a shit, but I'll tell you and I hate to be a troublemaker, but a lot of times fucking yes. Yes. Yes. That entails. A lot of that goes on. Yeah, a lot. I have a question. Who do you think paid for the private jet? I think it was a trade off. You think it was a trade off? They put the name up. So I'll tell you this and I've been I've spoke to a private, you know, recently there's some private jet companies. People aren't renting private jets anymore. So they're looking to advertise and they're looking to make it affordable more so people do it. Look at Spirit Airlines yesterday went out of business. People showed up, but a lot of people take spirit and a lot of people are out of jobs now, like my family does back and forth. My my nephew goes to school and, you know, my sister, that's what she can afford. And that's usually the cheapest. And, you know, people are out of jobs. It went bankrupt three o'clock in the morning. Oh, yeah. All those people who lost their jobs. So my question is if if K. Michelle thinks that every man cheats, why would she not get a prenup? That's what I'm saying. Like, I don't know where that why my head went right to like mail trips, because when we were talking about the female trips, why is it different? Why do girls not one second? Let me just say this one thought. Why is the girls trips like really girls trips and not like banging everybody? Like, why the most guy trips I've heard of? And I'm just being cynical, guys. I'm sorry. I'm sure that does that. Boyfriends are having a great time fishing and catching tuna. But, you know, if K. Michelle exactly thinks this has this mentality, then why would she not want PJ to sign a prenup and prenups are for more than just like if he goes out of business now, your debt is his debt. If you're married, if you don't sign a prenup, is that correct in some way? Right. Right. I don't know if it protects you like that. A lot of things that happen, you know, with a prenup, you can carve a lot of things out. I did not do a prenup. Well, a lot of people don't. I know. I always said he wouldn't stupid for not doing it. Well, I think everybody's stupid now. Now I know more and there's more money involved. I think. Yeah. Well, look at Dr. Dre. He had one saved his fucking ass. He only had to pay a hundred million. Oh, is that all? Out of his 800 million dollar empire, Jesus, well, because he had a prenup. Yeah. See, it will protect you. Now, came came a show says our husband doesn't have social media. And those are the shadiest kinds, the ones that don't have social media. Now, I know people that don't have social media. And there's usually a reason like they don't want to be found. They don't want to be trapped. How about a lot of guys don't a lot of we're in this little world. I wish my husband didn't have social media. No trace of evidence ever. Let me tell you something. Long before social media, men cheated and long before social media, I caught people cheating. Yeah. OK. And so did other women and so did other men. How is Frank doing these days? Long before. Oh, Frank, Frank. I haven't seen him, heard of him or anything. You know, Paul was just asking about him. I'm going to have to give him a call and check in on him. I used to hear from a lot more. He's very busy selling his house. Just sold the shore house. One deal fell through. Did he move to Florida? He wants to move to Florida. Yeah, I remember he's saying that. Yeah. So. Yeah, I haven't seen one social media unlike my husband. So I need to. Eddie needs to be banned from social media. He gets bored some days and he just gets on social media and reposts everything he's seen, anything that he thinks is funny. And I said to him, I said, what are you doing? That why are you doing that? And he just, oh, I don't know. And then I'll say something like you do know that is kind of political. He goes, oh, it is like he doesn't get it. He just thinks, oh, it's funny. It's on social media. I'm going to repost it. No, there there there is not responsible. No, posters and commenters. So so yeah. So as far as, you know, the whole all men cheat thing is on. Is that unfair to say? Yeah, in this day and age it is, to be honest. I remember I was five years old. I was standing in front of my mom. She was washing the dishes, probably crying. And she looked at me and why would she say she probably had nobody else to talk to. You know, when she said, yeah, just so you know, all men cheat. But, you know, as long as they don't make a fool out of you, I'll never forget where I was. And you know, when she said that, I guess that's what had happened. If I had to look back, a lot of stuff happened now that I realized what it was. And it comes back to you. But why did she do it on my mom? Listen, things happened. Yeah, things happened. And I feel like it happens less. Men are raised differently now. Real men are raised differently. So I can say, but listen, anyone's capable of murder. Anyone's capable of cheating. People are capable of anything. Oh, I was going to tell you because we we kept Rhode Island. There was an interesting article or article. Kelsey, her name Kelsey was on Watch What Happens. Why did you hear what she said? Last night I watched it and I called Liz first thing in the morning because I have spoke to Rula and I have spoke to Brian. Well, you know what? You have Joe Allen coming on. Well, she said, didn't she say the reason why they left the first thing is because the mistress was going rogue and she thought like they were going to try to stop. We know the mistress was going rogue. But do you think that's true? That statement? It wasn't because the mother was sick? Well, if that happens to be proven, then somebody needs to answer to that. Yeah. Well, let's get back to Atlanta. So they're in the Sprinter van now, like all housewives are. OK, Michelle has a reaction to Sprinter. I know. Well, Michelle has the reaction to Drew saying that black her and black are friends and she's like, we are not friends. He sent her a DM and they she actually shows the DM where he is hitting on her 100 percent hitting on her. Like what the actual hell? But he's not sleeping with Drew. And are they really plays? Well, she says he's not. If they don't want to answer to that, then it's not a relationship. If you if you if you're hiding who you're sleeping with, is it really a relationship? Are there real feelings involved? Is she hiding black because she's in this crazy legal battle? I don't like what he said to her. I'll never come back from it. I'm not OK with it. If you're a woman getting divorced with children and a guy sits in front of you and says, I'll catch you when you're done with all this. But bye. Bye. Give him one more second. If somebody can't take you when you're on the balls of your eyes, do they deserve you ever? Because he will come back up. He gave me bad vibes. I did not like that. I don't remember a guy saying to me one time, you know, I was casually casually dating, I'm not anything. And I was getting divorced and he's like, you have big baggage, big Louis Vuitton baggage. Really? Well, they didn't say Sam tonight. Back then I felt like bad about it. I felt like it was true. I felt like it was a burden. No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm a prize. I'm a prize. 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She said, well, then they flashback and she said, hey, nice to see you as if. You know, that could be misconstrued as I've met you before. Nice to see you, not nice to meet you. But it could also be just mixing of words. You know, I wouldn't hang on the word. But listen, Drew, ask Black if he knows her, ask Black if he's been with her. Right. Did Black tell you he knew you're close enough for this man to tell you if he's if he knows came shell or not? You're this is like your best friend. Did he not say or do you not know who he's friends with? Because I know who my best friends are friends with. Now, the girls are on the screen or van and they're right. They're driving in circles, is what Angela said. And I go, oh, I know exactly what's going on. So we're waiting for something to happen. No, they're waiting for the room to be lit up and cameras to get in place because they filmed it from one location and now they're going to the actual house. So they're like going in circles and do that. Where's they were 30 minutes because no, everything has to get into place. So the girls are they go to a truck stop. Shamiya admits that she pees in a cup because her parents had a truck in company. She knows how dirty and filthy these facilities are, those truck stops. So she pees in a cup. We're outside. I think in the bathroom. So if you're in the bathroom, you just have the most stupid fucking thing I ever heard. Yeah. If you're in the bathroom anyway, anyway, I can understand if she said, if she said, I'm not even going to breathe in the air in the bathroom, I'm going to go behind the building and I'm going to pee in a cup or pee on the floor. And I get that in the ground, pee on the floor, go in the grass. Yeah, go behind the door. That I get that I'm OK with. Right. To be in the bathroom anyway, pee in a cup and dump it in the toilet is the absolute most ridiculous thing. I have never heard. Ever heard it? I don't know. Do you not want like the fumes coming up from the toilet and your cheapies, it's going to splash up and hit her in the butt. That's what toilet paper is. You put the toilet paper in the toilet. Oh, that's a good idea. And it doesn't splash back. That's right. Well, here we go again. And I don't know why choosing a room causes the most problem for housewives on every trip. Everyone spoiled. They are talking about this the entire episode after dramatic tension. Cynthia puts Kelly and Shami in the pool house and Pinkie in the tiny house. I thought like it's OK. I thought it's OK as long as you're with your best friend or the person you get along with, put me anywhere with somebody I get along with or alone. When they showed the main house, didn't they say something crazy like nine bedrooms? It did say that. Why didn't they all sleep in the main house? Maybe because there were some bedrooms that were not allowed to be slept in. Maybe that could be it. Now, girls are overreacting. Yeah. Like, do you think that not going to dinner was warranted or should they have shown up to dinner? Not happy. Not like in it. No, no. Cynthia is a good person. They have no problems. She's good to everybody. She kept two friends together. She didn't go to dinner or they should have gone to dinner. They should have gone. Oh, I thought you said they should know that. I thought we were going to fight about this. They didn't want to take a shower after the private plane they got off of and the beautiful sprinter they were in. Because sometimes you get musty in the sprinter. I get it. OK. Then how about call Cynthia and say, can I use your shower? It's really dirty. Get somebody in here to clean it. Yeah. Not nice. Not nice. And by the way, they're having dinner at the house outside. Why did they have to get so glammed up for that? Well, I have to say they they are very glam like, you know, New Jersey will show up in our fucking pajamas. I don't care. But like I think people like that, though. I think people are over the overly glam costumes, all that stuff. I like it. My makeup done. You know, I like that if I I pick in shoes, like if I go on a trip, I'll take my glam with me, you know, because I most of all, you know why I want to do it. We're out late. We're up early. I don't want to sit there. You take your glam on your trips. Uh huh. Uh huh. I'm going to ask you about that later. Just make up just makeup. I don't care. I can do my hair. I just said I don't want to sit and half the times you go, the bathrooms are dark. You don't have the right mirror. I just like do my makeup and and I'll do my hair and it's good. All right. Well, fair enough. But there's no reason to make somebody feel bad about a trip that they planned. And just because it's dirt, like it's a beautiful house, got your own pool and you're with your friend, it's not like she put you in a trailer. Right. Like I slept in a trailer. Gladly, when I was in Oklahoma, I was happy to be in the trailer. But came Michelle's not she, I thought came she'll be beautiful without makeup. Beautiful. Beautiful. She says, I can't even color in a coloring book, so I definitely can't paint my face with makeup now. Teddy's one that cannot do her makeup. I cannot. I can do my makeup. Do I want to do my makeup? No. Does it look as good as when you have it done? No, I just hate doing my makeup. That's why I'm not filming. I put a little foundation on because it's got a sunscreen in it and lip gloss. And I'm good to go. But can I just say she shows up to the pool? What a bottle of Jack Daniels. I know I saw that. Oh my God. Anyway, came she'll look beautiful. But how about the consideration for the host? That's what I want to say. Yeah. But that's what I want to see. Don't make the person feel bad. Was the place clean? No, it wasn't. Yeah. But you do know Cynthia. Oh, maybe she was promoting. Came Michelle's new songs called Jack Daniels. Maybe she was promoting. That's probably what it is. Good catch. Cynthia knew this was going to cause a problem because she wasn't having a hard time getting in out of her mouth. Well, I want to pick two girls that, you know, love each other. They can, you know, can't pull themselves away from each other. And she's like really dragging this out because she knew it was going to piss them off. And then Shamiah instantly said, you know, that Christmas gift you get from your grandma and then you have to act like you're grateful for it. That's what's happening right here. Here's the thing. It was an ego thing. Now, I think this could have been set up for production. But it was like, oh, really, you're going to put us over there. But guess what? Why are you showing your hand like that? Where I sit on the couch every union or where I get put on a cast trip does not to find who I am ever once. No, it doesn't define the housewife that you are. The two of you, Shamiah, you live in a castle, in a fucking castle. And Kelly, you don't live in a castle. You're going through a lot of shit. But maybe we need to be more grateful for things. Right. I maybe we need to not be pussies about how we act about something. Because if I didn't like something, the last thing you would see was it on my thought, I wouldn't show my hand. I thought that I usually don't complain. And when I do go on a cast trip and if it was my idea, I will give normally the newbie the big room just because I know how hard it is to go on a trip and be away for the first time. And it's like, you know what, take the big room. You'd feel as comfortable as you can. There's only one time when I went on a trip and I went, you got to fucking be kidding me, there was a beehive in there. There were the bed with the mattress on the ground and the bathtub was a wooden box. That's with a spoon, with a spoon. Not even a shower. It was a bathtub. And you had to it was crazy. It was an Iceland. It's the only time I'm like, come on, but Shannon, let me use her bathroom and all that stuff. But listen, this could have been handled better. I think they made themselves look bad. Well, I got to be honest, I didn't. And you know what, Cynthia is like one of the longest running housewives. She doesn't need to be afraid of any newbies. But is that consecutive? Is that consecutive? Now I'm learning. I know because I'm consecutive. I mean, she's consecutive and he made sure he said that a couple times at the reunion, but even though I got one year on her, are they going to, is he going to say Tamara is the longest running non-consecutive housewife? Make him say it at the reunion. I can make anybody say anything. If I'm not appreciated, then. But that's what I mean. Like, don't show your hand. I would have been like, oh my God, I'm so excited. I love this. You know, Cynthia, thank you. But I just want it just didn't show good for me. Well, even show me as husband's like it laughs. He laughed. And then he's like, can I call you back? Yeah, I think he hates filming. That's what I get. I think he's a good guy. He just hates filming his face is like when he has to fucking FaceTimers. Like, I just like I have like airports to put HVAC in. I don't really have time to look at the skid mark on the bed that you just showed me. Not the blue mark on the toilet. Yeah, just not like interested in the the, you know, leftover toothpaste and the to the, you know, it's like fucking gross. But anyway, it could have been handled a much different way. Yeah, they're all hanging out by the pool and they decided they're not going to go to dinner, came Michelle's there and then Kelly starts crying about her ex trying to stop the children from filming. Because she's scared because, listen, in my world, if your kids can't film. My kids never filmed. So after I got divorced, my ex would not sign for them to film. So my kids couldn't film until they're 18. Now, Sophia has watched me film for all these years and it's only been a few years now that she's filming and she loves it. Now, this is a perfect example of me warning other housewives, if you keep talking shit about your ex, he will not sign for your kids to film. He will not. Now, that's not what happened in my situation. My ex just if he wasn't on the show, they weren't going to be on the show. And he was hoping I would get fired. But Kelly, you continue to trash him on the show and expect him to sign up for the kids filming. You know, this man is bitter. So why would you do that? And I've even said this about Beverly Hills, like because Rachel's O talks a lot about the ex. When you start doing that, it pisses him off and they hold all the power to if your kids are going to film or not. Well, if he doesn't want to pay for them, he shouldn't try to jeopardize her job. I mean, yeah, of course. But when you have a divorce like that and, you know, it's so they're both really bitter, they do things to hurt each other. They use the kids as a pawn. Yeah, it's a typical nasty divorce. Yeah. Yeah. So, OK. But sometimes, listen, that could hurt your job because you're supposed to be able to show all parts of your life, all parts of your life. And you have a big mouth like me and you stir up drama and create stuff. Right. Well, you don't have to have your kids. And I think that's probably one of the reasons why I got so vocal and wanted to call everybody out for so many years and got used to that. Because I didn't have my kids. OK, I didn't have a lot of, you know what, Tamara, fair enough. And that's a very honest thing to say. Is that something you're just realizing right now? Or is that something you've thought up before or? I think it's something that I right now I'm realizing and, you know, thought about it way back then because it's very true. You can't show kids. You can't show husband. You can't show for it somewhere else. Yeah. Yeah. There's very few. I mean, Erica Jane has a son that we've never seen, but he's also an adult. Now, not all my kids film like Spencer has filmed once since the turn 18 or twice. But he didn't like it. And he didn't like the people that came after him on social media. He's very sensitive and said, no, mom, it's just not for me. Right. But it's not about like what, whether it's for them or not, if it's going to affect our job and it may affect hers, here we go. Yeah. So Kelly's always got something. This is Kelly's lifeline right now. So did you notice earlier on in the episode, Kelly said something about frickin frack or whack or they're whack whack whack in front of Angela and then she says, well, of course I noticed that. Angela's going to go and tell them, well, Angela did. So at the dinner, Pinkie acts like a mouthpiece for the woman who skipped out. So she was supporting the girls that were not, you know, not there. I don't think that I don't think he thinks that what they were doing was right. And sometimes I know it's nice to be a good friend and try to have a mouthpiece for people, but when your friends are not right, then probably you shouldn't be saying anything. Was it Angela that said she was being pinkie hostile towards Cynthia? Because I didn't I don't think that Pinkie was being exceptionally mean towards Cynthia. And she's like, listen, I love Cynthia. I that's who said that. I can't remember. It was Angela. That's what I thought. It was Angela. Angela. Yeah. Well, listen, this this spikes an amazing duel. Oh, wasn't it great? Good. It was so good. I got very ugly, but I think Pinkie got defensive. I feel like there's always that Hannibal Lecter I'd like to use as an analogy. Like like to read with Sutton's. I'm going to call Angela tasted blood in the water with Pinkie. And we're going to see more of this throughout the season, because Angela kept her cool and Pinkie lost it. Pinkie lost it. Angela is so good. She is so good at housewifing. She keeps her cool. She delivers her insults and just as just has her fan blowing her. She's so good at it. So good. Well, she goes and says and tells the girls that, you know, what Kelly had said, fricking frack or whack, which obviously started to spark a conversation. Feature goes on to call them Ren and Stimpy. Stimpy is that their name? They kind of kind of cracked me up. Not going to lie. Or she referred to them as Dom and some kind of champagne and then a cheap brand. And, you know, just said like, you know, they're the knockoffs. I don't know. It just it got heated really quick at one point. Cynthia checks on the girls and Kelly keeps telling her about the dirty room, which annoys Cynthia like how many times Kelly are we going to say the word dirty? I know. But wait, what was your best? Let's get back to the fight for a second. What was your best comeback in the fight? Oh, my God, you'd have to remind me because it went so fast. All right, I'm going to go over some. Yeah. Angela says Pinky's a bad bitch who doesn't pay her bills. Angela calls Pinky Mr. Clean and Papa Smurf Pinky says she owes Angela new veneers the way her overbite looks Angela says Pinky has incessant. What does that even mean? It means like if like your parents were brother and sister, that's what your teeth would look like in session. Oh, my God. Like incest like if your parents were like first cousins. I thought you said sensual Pinky stands, smacks her ass and tells Angela to kiss it, not to flash back to poor Phaedra saying that Pinky's ass was flat. Anyway, the back and forth was so good. And the argument finally ends with Angela and Pinky saying they don't want to argue. Well, I want you to again. Yeah, do it again. And then then do what I like about it. They both went, OK, well, let's go. But this back and forth was so good. It was so good. And I wish at any point somebody could have been a friend to Pinky and told her her air cuff was hanging. Oh, my God, that's what I wrote down. I'm like your ear cuff is hanging off. Why is not one person? One person telling you fix your earring. Yeah, huh? Tell me that. Yeah. And do you think that Pinky really egged on this fight? Do you think that she started it? I mean, she called her a bitch. She didn't start the fight, but she kind of came into this. Where she she she should have stayed in her lane. She she entered into something she shouldn't have. Because those girls were wrong. They were wrong. And she came to the table instead of feeling bad for Cynthia, that three people out of this cast trip did not show up to her dinner that she planned. No matter what, whether you plan it or not, it's just have some grace for the host. OK, look at Potomac. I mean, it's not like didn't have running water. I have to say I try to be a really nice person. But if I didn't have running water, I'd probably be like annoyed as well and leave. I don't deal with, you know, not running water, but they had it. They had a chance to get to running water. Yeah, but don't you think like a simple conversation or a phone call, hey, Cynthia, can we get somebody in here to clean this room? You know, Cynthia wasn't doing this on purpose. She didn't have any idea that there was stains on the bed and all these things. It was the actual room is not that bad. Like, and I think it was Portia that probably said then, listen, girls, we don't spend all our time in the room. We're going to go out and see this beautiful town. There's so much to see. More to do outside of the room. More to do than that. So anyway, that's how it ends. To a bad and good start at the same time. Good for us, bad for them. And I am looking forward to the next episode. OK, thanks guys for tuning into another episode of Two Tees in a Pod. 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