Julie Yang Silver Meets World

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So I recently met an old friend, started dating this guy. and um it was one of those experiences that i you don't have as you get older where you just like immediately bond with somebody you're like oh we're gonna be friends we're gonna just like and so he and i just started he's a cinematographer and a director and um has worked in the industry forever started as a camera operator anyway we were like just having that like we had two days at a convention and we were just having so much fun talking and at one point he goes you know i worked with um i worked with will fredell and i was like what and he's like yeah yeah yeah and he's telling me this story he worked on go fish with you he was a camera operator on uh go fish the show that you did after okay he told me the funniest story he's like you know he's like there was there was a there was a young woman who was a i think she was a stand-in or um maybe a guest star and he's like and there's will he's like the handsomest coolest guy with the teen bead hair and everything and he's asking me for advice how do i talk to this girl and he was like it was so adorable i was like nope that sounds like will that's what he's like i just remember being like dude like you're asking me i can't help you like you gotta just talk to her but apparently you were trying to like talk to some girl on set and you and he was like just baffled but he loved you he was like yeah will and i had a great time it was so fun to hang out with his name uh charles i actually don't know his last name but um yeah but he was the nicest guy and like that's good First of all, we're going to blow past the fact that you're out there making new friends. I mean, are you surprised? But it's just it still hurts occasionally. I mean, when you realize that we're not enough for you. Oh, well, no, but you should know that because he has the opportunity to hang out with us. And we are on the road. You think, well, who else would you hang out with? Guess what? The answer is almost anyone else. Anyone else is the answer for Ryder. Anyone else. Be like, hey, you guys, I spend a lot of time with you. No, you don't. Yes, I do. No, you don't. We're here to tell you, no, you don't. Yeah. You guys don't come out with me. I'm always like, after a show, I'll be like, hey, let's go get a drink. Let's go get some food. And you guys are like, I'm going to my room. I'm ordering in and I'm going to sleep. It's like 1230. Hold on. Also, that's not true. We do that when you're like, I'm going out with my friend. You don't even invite us to go along with you. So we go, okay, then I guess Will and I will go to bed. Oh, my God. Separately. Yeah, throw that in there. Separately. Yeah, I agree. Anyway, I thought it was funny to make a new friend and have a story that went back to 2000 Will Friedle that I was like, that's exactly my friend Will. You know him well. I can't talk to girls. And luckily now I don't have to. You don't have to. You just have to talk to Susan. Which is great. Do you find it easy to talk to Susan? Most of the time. A lot of times I'm shy. He has to call me and be like, how do I talk to her? I wanted to go on a date with me I'm still convinced I just like to let her know that you know I try to keep her down as much as possible because if she finds out that she can do better than me which she can I'm screwed right she's out yeah I just try to make her feel like you know this is the best you can do knowing full well she could throw a stone and hit somebody better than me so yeah hopefully she did marry you though so that's a good sign that's true that's That's true. Yeah, it's usually a good sign that it can work, that it'll work out. So that's good. Welcome to Pod Meets World. I'm Danielle Fishel. I'm Ryder Strong. And I just don't know how to talk to her. So if I, I mean, do I just go? I'm will. Hi, this is Jo Winterstein, host of the Spirit Daughter Podcast, where we talk about astrology, natal charts, and how to step into your most vibrant life. And I just sat down with a mini driver. The Irish traveler said when I was 16, you're going to have a terrible time with men. Actor, storyteller, and unapologetic Aquarian visionary. Aquarius is all about freedom loving and different perspectives. And I find a lot of people with strong placements in Aquarius are misunderstood. A sun and Venus in Aquarius in her seventh house spark her unconventional approach to partnership. He really has taught me to embrace people sleeping in different rooms, on different houses, in different places, but just an embracing of the is-ness of it all. 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When and if you do find a sport you love, you may be the next Gertrude, Tony, or Venus. Listen to Adventures of Curiosity Cove every Monday from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I went and sat on the little ottoman in front of him. I said, hi, dad. And just when I said that, my mom comes out of the kitchen, and she says, I have some cookies and milk. This is badass convict. Right. Just finished five years. I'm going to have cookies and milk at my mom. Yeah. On the Sino Show podcast, each episode invites you into a raw, unfiltered conversations about recovery, resilience and redemption. On a recent episode, I sit down with actor, cultural icon Danny Trail to talk about addiction, transformation and the power of second chances. The entire season two is now available to binge, featuring powerful conversations with guests like Tiffany Addish, Johnny Knoxville and more. I'm an alcoholic, and without this truth, I'm going to die. Open your free iHeartRadio app, search The Cino Show, and listen now. Hey everyone, it's Emily Simpson and Shane Simpson from the Legally Brunette podcast. Each week we're bringing you true crime through a legal lens. Whether you want all the facts on the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie, or you still need to wrap your head around the ditty verdict, we're breaking it all down step by step. And we're not just lawyers, we're also husband and wife. It makes for some pretty entertaining episodes. Listen to Legally Brunette on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This past month, a TikTok video from creator Nicole Story Dent went viral where she was walking through her local department store and noticed something very familiar. The mannequins displayed on the floor were wearing outfits that looked almost exactly like clothing seen on Boy Meets World. Sean, Corey, Mr. Feeney, even Minkus. She matched the looks with screenshots from the show and it was mind-blowing. Now is then, then is now. We are all connected. That's right. 30 years later, time is a flat circle and now it appears our classic 90s wardrobe is again in style. and being marketed to young kids and adults prepping for spring. How does that happen? How do short sleeve shirts on top of long sleeve shirts and sweater vests with military style fuzzy collared jackets and wool professor blazers find themselves available in 2026, decades later? That's the work of a good costumer. A few seasons back, we talked to the great Sarah Moskowitz, who was a driving force in getting us out of those XXL shirts and into clothes that actually fit. But from seasons three through seven, there was another name we remembered fondly. And that is this week's guest. Young enough to be a part of our crew, she came from the world of Martin Lawrence, working on his stylistically forward sitcom and movies, and then joined us and stayed through the finale. And since those days, her resume is chock full of projects cooler than Boy Meets World. We've got Vampire Diaries, Breaking Bad, Ocean's Eleven, American Horror Story, and recently a show that earned her an Emmy nomination, Star Wars, The Mandalorian. How she was unable to get us cast as stormtroopers, we will never know. And so now we are excited to welcome a crew favorite to Pod Meets World. The reason our costumes are now, years later, hip with the kids, it's Julie Yang Silver. Julie, are you there? Yes, hold on. Hi! Oh my God, it's so good to see you. Oh my God. Thank you so much for being here. You have not changed a single day. You look exactly the same. Everybody looks the same. Oh my gosh. It's so good to see you. Look at you guys. Hi, we're so good now. It's been like 25 years? Yeah, I mean, I don't think I've seen you since the show ended, right? like yeah no so 26 years 99 really i mean the show went off in 2000 but oh my god we are so happy to see you and i want you to know like 95 percent of our memories of you involve the idea that you were very very cool so will you please set the record straight were you very cool i was very cool i felt so cool to your age i thought you guys were amazing and and i mean there's a whole story behind it i mean i look back now and i'm like holy crap i was 26 yeah which is so weird because it felt like i was so much older and you guys really weren't I mean I wasn't that much older than you especially you Will so you were 26 when you started or when you finished no I think I was 26 when I started because I think I was yeah you started in like 96 yeah yeah I mean I was not that much older so I was 16 then and Will would have been like what 20, 21 20, 21. Yeah. Wow. Like that. Yeah. Oh, my God. So funny. I there was one of the first things I said when we were talking about having you on and Jensen was asking about, you know, things that we remember. And I said more than any other crew member, it felt like you were just our age. Yeah. 100 percent. I mean, Julie, you must have been the youngest crew member then, right? I was. I don't know if you guys recall, but I went and got my U.S. citizenship. And I went and got it was on a Friday night. We were taping and I went and got sworn in. And then I came back to the show. We were just started. And I was like, yeah, I'm legit. And I had like my little thing. They put me on camera and I was like, this is so weird. Oh, my God. That's right. So it would have been a Thursday night because we taped on Thursdays. That's right. It would have been a Thursday night. But I just remember it was the best time with you guys. Yeah. So much fun. Another thing I have to talk to you about, because, again, I've been so excited to have you on. And we have talked so much on our podcast so much about Will and I smoking. i think i'm now at the ripe old age of 44 i think i'm old enough to admit to my mother the very first cigarette i ever had was one i stole from julie corrupting the youth she had a pack of smokes like in her bag and i was like oh were you was it Marlboro Reds? No, there were lights. Lights? Marlboro Lights? Yeah. Yeah. I remember going out with Will and we would be like outside and be like, all right, have a cigarette. Yeah. Yeah. And I, you were like away from your bag and I think you knew, I think you kind of knew I was stealing cigarettes from you and you were just like, I'm not going to pay any attention to this. But I literally, my bag open on the pack. My first cigarette I ever had was one I stole out of your bag and then smoked alone. Like a weirdo who has their first cigarette, like when they steal and then smokes alone, like a total weirdo. But I did just, I have thought of you many a times over the years. When you wake up in the morning coughing, I often think of Julian. Ah, Julian. It was so weird because I saw you had changed your last name. And so I sent you, you know, an instant message. I think it was like two or three years ago. And then when this whole thing came up, I saw you responded. You were like, oh, my God, I never saw this. So funny on Instagram. I don't remember. OK, I'm well, I just wrote to you on Facebook. Yeah, mine was on Facebook. Yeah, yeah. Because when we talked about wanting to have you on, I said, let me see if I can find her on Facebook. And then I found you on Facebook and saw your message and was like, hey, just seeing this, which was the truth. Danielle's got a history of maybe not seeing messages so much on Facebook. I know. We are so happy to have you here. I have to know, I want to jump into, what is your costuming origin story? What did you, how did you get the job on Boy Meets World? Was Boy Meets World your first job? How did you start at such a young age? Okay. So I did go to a fashion school for like a year. I couldn't afford it. And I ended up just, I was going to merchandise marketing and I was at FIDM. Couldn't afford my second year. So then I was like, okay, well, I'm just going to keep working in the industry. Cut to a couple of years later. I was dating this guy who was a stage manager and the company I worked for went under. And so he was like, hey, do me a favor. Can you bring me this, you know, this thing that I left at my house? And I was like, yeah, sure. No problem. So I go and I drop it off. And he introduced it was back in the oh, my gosh, the Power Ranger era, the entertainment. entertainment so it was a show called tattooed teenage alien fighters from beverly hills awesome show awesome show awesome show i ended up meeting the designer there and uh eddie castro who was phenomenal and him and i just kind of hit it on and he was super great and he was like oh will you come help me on something and i was like yeah sure and you know and he's like i'll pay you a hundred dollars. And at that time I wasn't working. I was actually helping out in my parents' restaurant. And so I was like, sure, come to find out. It was like 16 hours. Oh, for a hundred dollars, but I had the best time. I, and it was like a commercial. So there was like food galore catering. I was like sucked in by the food and I thought, Oh, well, this looks like fun craft service gotcha oh that's how they get you that's how they get you that's how they totally did so it went really quick uh I was really lucky got started with him and within about a year I got into the union amazing and I was working for an actor that uh I decided not to go back to work with him. And my friend Eddie calls me up and he was like, hey, they're looking for you know like a supervisor slash designer on this kid show called Boy Meets World I like you got to be like I haven done this for very long I like supervised I been doing this for maybe two years tops And he was like no I think you should go do it. So we did a whole board and everything. And I was so nervous. Oh, wow. So you had to you had to kind of audition. Oh, yeah. Ideas. Oh, that's so cool. Oh, yeah. I had to kind of, you know, and so I came in and met with Michael Jacobs. Yeah. And I was completely nervous and I was thinking there's no way. I remember at that time I even had cut my hair short because I looked so young and nobody was taking me seriously. I went in and Michael was like, yeah, okay. He had very strong ideas about what he wanted you guys to be in and everything. I was like, okay, I get to go shop. I think I can do this. And lo and behold, you know, I did. And he hired me and I was like, why in the world did he hire me? Like I had hardly anything on my resume, let alone even design. You know, I don't even I don't have that creative, creative like because most designers are like kind of crazy. But the irony is that you're trying to look older by cutting your hair. But the reality is you being younger was probably an asset. It was. Yeah. It was. And I think like a year into it, I remember asking Michael, I was like, why did you hire me? He was like, well, I figured, you know, if I didn't like what you did, I'd just fire you. Yeah. There you go. That's about right. That's about right. Yeah. Before we get too into our time on Boy Meets World, I got very into the look of the Beverly Hills alien fighters when I was doing some research on you. And Will and Ryder, I would like for you to take a look at some of these. And Julie, could you please tell us the inside story on some of these costumes? Let's go to the picture. Oh, my gosh. Whoa. Oh, my God. Whoa. Yes. These are the tattooed teenagers from Beverly Hills. Oh, my God. Aliens. Oh, yes. Okay, so I was helping. I actually didn't design that. That was from Eddie was designing it. Wow. Okay. Magical. shiny yeah that was like back in the days of like the power ranges so anything that was like fitted that showed off everything it was kind of crazy for our dear listeners who maybe don't see this right away it is latex yeah just skin tight latex skin tight latex with our muscles like glistening But the the like body oil glow is also all over the latex. So it's just like and then there's masks. Are they also latex masks? They were kind of latex masks, but that stuff gets really like. Yeah, hot and hot. And hot. So they had to make it so it was more like something they can just pull over and we put the latex over that to help fit it. but yeah i mean back in those days it was like you suffered you sucked it up and you just did right now were any of these looks on your vision board for boy meets world no no no no no because i can see sean i can see i can i can uh matt lawrence could have pulled off uh some latex he could have that would have been great i think i can see that for cory you know but yeah i can Do you remember what you pitched? Do you remember what your board looked like? Oh my gosh. It was very, he wanted, I mean, it was back in the whole, you know, TGIF. So it was all about wholesome, very down to earth. I mean, you guys were like the next like happy days. Right. Yeah. Really normal, you know, Midwest, like everybody wanted to be you. So that was what the idea of Disney was doing. Yeah. Right. So you get Boy Meets World. Michael hires you because worst case scenario, he's going to fire you. He's just going to fire you today in front of everybody. I kept thinking for like, I want to say the first three months, I was like, he's going to fire me, right? I'm not going to hold this job. You're there for the rest of the time. Yeah. Oh my gosh, that's unbelievable. When did you then start working with the red hot Martin Lawrence? um that was when I first it was same thing with Eddie he called me up and he was like hey I'm doing this little showtime thing come do it with me and I was like oh okay and um so I went we were like out in the desert and stuff like that so then that finished and then he was like oh I'm doing this other you know show and that show was the one that turned union and i got in the union but it was literally just eddie me and i think i hired i hired my friend who i ended up firing because she didn't show up one day oh no oh yeah it was like back in the days like you did everything I mean, I think at one point I even we had a pool scene and I the wind was blowing and the actress was on a raft and I actually got in the water with a straw to hold her in place because I was the smallest one underneath. Oh, my gosh. It was a fun it was a fun show. I think I even have a little cameo in it. Yes. No, it was that it was it was really funny. I had my headset on and they were like, you're going to be one of the go go dancers at the club. So they harnessed me up high and I'm on my walkie and I'm like telling people like, no, no, no, no. Get his outfit off. Get his hat off. So there's a really quick shot. I haven't seen it. I think I decided to blur that away. I was like 24 years old. We blur a lot of stuff too, Julie. We blur a lot of stuff too. Don't worry about it. So you did all of that before you joined Boy Meets World. Yes. And then from there, I went to work on his TV show for a season. And then I did Nothing to Lose with him and Tim Robbins, who I love. Tim was fabulous. Oh, so great. I think one of the kind of underrated films of the 90s. I'm not joking. I don't know this film. Oh, Nothing to Lose is so great. So Martin Lawrence, he plays a carjacker who, Tim Robbins comes home and he finds, he sees his wife Kelly Preston having an affair. And he just walks out of the house and he drives and he gets carjacked by Martin Lawrence. And he looks at him and he just goes, man, did you pick the wrong guy on the wrong day? And just takes off with the carjacker in the car. And it's the adventure that they then have together. And it is just, so it's Oda Kirk. it's uh yeah no not not bob steve steve yeah julie i hate to do this i'm on the road touring with the dancing with the stars tour so i'm gonna hop off because i have the bus is waiting for me downstairs to head to the venue um the guys are gonna finish the interview with you we need to catch up even if we can't see each other face to face for a while we need to catch up i'd love to talk to you over the phone so i'm so mad that i have to miss the rest of this interview but she But Ryder and I are going to do a much better interview. So don't worry about it. We'll ask you really, really good questions. You guys are going to have so much fun. All right. I love you guys. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Hi. This is Jo Winterstein, host of the Spirit Daughter Podcast, where we talk about astrology, natal charts, and how to step into your most vibrant life. And I just sat down with a mini driver. The Irish traveler said when I was 16, you're going to have a terrible time with men. Actor, storyteller, and unapologetic Aquarian visionary. Aquarius is all about freedom loving and different perspectives. And I find a lot of people with strong placements in Aquarius like are misunderstood. A sun and Venus in Aquarius in her seventh house spark her unconventional approach to partnership. He really has taught me to embrace people sleeping in different rooms, on different houses, in different places, but just an embracing of the is-ness of it all. If you're navigating your own transformation or just want a chart-side view into how a leading artist integrates astrology, creativity, and real life, this episode is a must-listen. Listen to the Spirit Daughter podcast starting on February 24th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your podcast. what everyone expects. In the case of the right fit, Ella explores movement, confidence, and belonging and learns that not all strength looks the same. Tennis is powerful, fast, focused, and kind of fun. Strong swing, Ella! This Women's History Month story introduces kids to women who change sports by trusting themselves and moving differently. A thoughtful episode about identity, courage, and helping kids discover where they truly belong. So it's okay if I'm not quite sure what my thing is yet. It's absolutely okay. When and if you do find a sport you love, you may be the next Gertrude, Tony, or Venus. At Curiosity Cove. Listen to Adventures of Curiosity Cove every Monday from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I went and sat on the little ottoman in front of him. I said, hi, dad. And just when I said that, my mom comes out of the kitchen. She says, I have some cookies and milk. This is badass convict. Right. Just finished five years. I'm going to have cookies and milk at mom. Yeah. On the Sino Show podcast, each episode invites you into a raw, unfiltered conversations about recovery, resilience, and redemption. On a recent episode, I sit down with actor, cultural icon Danny Trail to talk about addiction, transformation, and the power of second chances. The entire season two is now available to binge, featuring powerful conversations with guests like Tiffany Addish, Johnny Knoxville, and more. I'm an alcoholic. And without this trouble, I'm going to die. Open your free iHeartRadio app. Search The Cito Show and listen now. Hey, everyone, it's Emily Simpson and Shane Simpson from the Legally Brunette podcast. Each week, we're bringing you true crime through a legal lens. Whether you want all the facts on the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie or you still need to wrap your head around the ditty verdict, we're breaking it all down step by step. And we're not just lawyers. We're also husband and wife. It makes for some pretty entertaining episodes. Listen to Legally Brunette on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. of pastel looks and there was a vibe to martin and how much of that did you contribute to when it came to the look of the characters honestly i personally did not but my because my job was just to take care of him i worked with him on a thin line between love and hate that's the show that ended up um going union i mean the day we turned union i i think the gangs we were shooting in a very bad area. And there was a truce call between, I think, the Crips and the Blood for us to be able to film there. And then we had a bunch of delays and health issues that Martin went through. And the Crips and Blood got really kind of pissed and basically said they gave us, I think, like a time frame. And the day that we striked to turn union, or the neighbors all came out and they were like you guys need to get out before sundown because they're going to start taking pot shots at you i mean literally the producers came by i'm we're like grabbing the stuff and the producers like yelling at me get in your car and leave and i was like but there's still some clothes i gotta get the dressing the set dressing there's like get in your car and leave now. And, um, yeah, it was, we didn't realize that cause we had this huge cast of like Bobby Brown and, uh, you know, obviously Martin. Um, and it was a, it was a fabulous show, but we had several delays and they did not want us there. They did not want us in that neighborhood and they wanted us out. So then after that, that's when I went to go work on Martin and I basically just took care of him. I made sure that, you know, everything that he needed. I don't know about you guys, but I mean, actors have, they do have a lot of say in the colors and, you know, what fits. I mean, obviously it's a collaborated effort, but you guys do have quite a bit of influence. Well, it's funny because I don't think we thought we did back on Boy Meets World. Like, I feel like we, like Will and I definitely did not have any taste or opinions. So was that a good thing for you? Or was, did you, like, do you remember, like, dressing us and just telling us what to wear? Or what was your relationship? I remember dressing you guys and telling you guys what to wear. I also remember at different parts, I was like, is there something different? Like, how do you feel about this character? And Will would just be like, eh. It's a miss letter. You know, that's pretty much it. And then for you, it was more of like, oh, another T-shirt. Okay, with another thing. It's like, you know, we kind of went through the little more eclectic, trying to make it a little more, you know, cool. And Will was just like sweaters and regular button down shirts. And, you know, so it was we could not go too far out. I mean, we were really dictated a lot by that wholesome. Yeah. Right. Right. So was it creatively satisfying at all? Or was it just sort of like a fun job, you know, in terms of being able to the set and the dynamics? It was a fun job. There were times that, do you guys remember what was that episode that we did with like World War II? Yeah. Yeah. Like that was a lot of fun. Yeah. Right. We did have a couple kind of, when you were there, a couple out of the box ones. We did the black and white one, like the Casablanca one. Yeah. And we did the 50, were you there for the 50s one or did you came after the 50s one? I came after the 50s one. And you did the World War II. So you did the 40s and then, yeah, okay. It was we did. And especially for my character, there was a lot of times where they were putting me in some pretty weird. Like we just watched the honeymoon episode where I'm a coconut at one point. And so that was that must have been interesting, especially by season six and seven to get a script. And it's like, oh, Will's a tree. Will's a couch. Well, it was kind of like if they were going to make anybody anything, it was going to be Will. Right. Right. Yeah. Right. Yeah. so i know i know and it's also a very you know within like what that five years four years it it was hard to keep going i mean you guys were growing up right you know started to actually really find your own identity and what you liked and um you know and but we still had to keep your character the same but you guys had all grown out of that right right so do you remember watching us go through awful adolescence and awkward faces. And I mean, because it's so funny, because in my mind, I thought of you as somewhat of a contemporary. Yeah, you were a friend. But I must have been so, I mean, here I was like 17 talking to you like, I mean, do you remember, what do you remember about us personally, like having to listen to our dumb love life problems or what was it like? No, I remember, Will, when you were dating Jennifer. Yeah. And we went through that. Oh, gosh. And I remember when Matthew came in and you guys put to that singing. Yeah. The singing, the dancing in front of the audience. Yeah. Uh huh. And then, um, you know, and I remember for a writer, like when Trina came along, she was so much older and having that kind of dynamic. And it was just like, wow, he's, you know, and you did it beautifully. Right. Um, I think the most that I remember was more for, uh, Danielle. yeah because she was you know and i related more to her just because she was a female and a young teenager growing up and and society and oh my gosh there were so many um discussions uh heated discussions about her wardrobe or yes yeah and that karen the producer karen yeah Yeah, she was a huge Danielle advocate and her and I, she would back me up and we would go against Michael and he would just be like, well, no, I don't like as like, you're never going to open your mouth and ever say something like that again. We will take care of it. Right. We will. It's like, you know, there's this whole like image. Right. And how people looked. And on camera, it does add weight. you know and when you're of short stature it definitely things change and so it that part we had a tiptoe well it's interesting that you mentioned that because one of the things danielle talked about and i'm sure she would have brought it up if she was not doing awesome things with amazing people around the world instead of us um we don't hold a grudge uh if um you know obviously i put on a bunch of weight towards the end danielle put on a little bit of weight towards the end but of course it was all about how she put on so much weight and one of the things she talked about was during the wedding episode specifically she remembers that she was allowed to quote unquote help pick the dress but none of them were allowed to be sleeveless yeah and she thinks that one of the reasons that that was is because certain powers that be thought that she looked too heavy to show her arms bare um is that in fact what happened yes it is so you were just constantly having conversations about i was yes it was constant conversation and the thing was danielle was not heavy no no that's what we're looking at it going oh my god that's what i was trying to explain to them i was like she is still a size two like i don know what you guys are talking about but because of her stature and they were so used to seeing because she bloomed overnight i think by the time when i started she had grown outwards and because she wasn 11 anymore that what happens yeah right exactly but that was the thing though was that you know danielle's not very tall so if you are bustier and you're not very tall, you're going to look larger. Right. And, but she wasn't, like you guys saw her every single day. She was not large at all. Well, that's the thing we talked about is she put on probably, she said like maybe eight pounds, nine pounds. I put on 30. Well, nobody really cared. That's what I mean. Is nobody, that was the thing that was so amazing. Yeah, that's the double standard, right? Was there ever a talk about my weight gain and changing my clothes or they were just like, they don't care. They don't care at all. Yeah. Nope. let him go be funny he'll put on a bigger shirt we're fine exactly but danielle there were conversation after conversation about wow i remember um specifically oh and then like trying to hide trina's pregnancy but you guys remember the episode the which one the prom oh yeah yeah sure okay so trina is like seven months pregnant so you know so we're trying to hide that and um and it was the same thing for danielle where she needed sleeves and i was like no that's gonna look ridiculous for prom like absolutely ridiculous so we ended up you know we did a shawl and i remember karen and i we really went up to bat for that one and we um i think karen and i mostly karen too was just like you will never ever we don't want to ever hear anybody say anything to danielle about this right okay i was gonna ask does she have any was she aware of any discussions i think she knew but yeah we really tried to um like hide that from her in terms of because you know she's a teenager like that's gonna get in her head and that was the thing that that karen and i were both saying was that she is a young woman and that could do so much psychological damage and this is so not worth it right you know so we were treading very very lightly and yeah there were some and i'm sure you know danielle knew and you know because i remember there were times when she would you know we would do sweaters and she would be like i look so huge in this and i was like honey that is an extra small yeah right yeah right you know and it's it was just being on camera like back then like we videotaped it so it really did add more and with like certain camera angles and stuff you know it just made her look more compact yeah but when you saw her in person she was not even remotely close no no we just watched the honeymoon episode and one of the things we talked about was the fact that she comes out in a negligee she's kind of naked under the under the cover she's doing all this and i said i was like how four or five episodes from now we do an episode about how you've put on so much weight i mean again at that point i was used to it so and i was a guy and i was funny so it didn't matter but as america's sweetheart it was one of those things where we looked at her and it was like how how could they look at what you look like there and be like we got to do an episode about how you've put on weight like what how are we seeing the same thing but that's also i will say to your credit that's also where being closer to our age than almost anybody else on the set that we were i mean that you there were pas and people on the set like that that were closer to our age but you don't really spend a lot of time with them and it's not as intimate a relationship as somebody who's dressing you and we're doing fittings and you're doing and your room at the time became like our therapy place it's a cool hangout spot we would go and hang out with you you and i would go smoke i remember you mentioned love and when i broke up with love i remember you wouldn't you like to help me through that i mean it was that was one of those things where we just we we hung out we all hung out yeah and so it was when we were putting on weight breaking up with girlfriends doing all that stuff that's we came to you that was like The room where we hung out. That you guys are one of the main reasons why I loved doing what I did. In all honesty, like I loved that family feel and everything. But I also tried to really make it so like I never, you know, I didn't go out and party with you guys. Because I knew that you guys would be going out afterwards. And I'd be like, oh, no, I think that's super crossing the line. And then, but I was still just like, okay, you know, whatever you guys needed, I would be there. I mean, Ryder, you were talking about, you know, going through that transition and everything and watching you guys grow up, like watching you guys like throw your clothes on top of the closet when you're done. And we're trying to like jump up there to get your, you know, by the end, I think they finally like begged you, like, please, Ryder, just, and you would just like, okay. You would fold them and then put them on the thing. Then we finally got him to just at least throw it on the floor. It was, yeah. It became like this game all of a sudden. And poor Cheryl, who was taking care of you guys, was just like, That's right. I need a stepstool. Because they keep throwing it on top. They keep throwing it on top of their closet. Oh, no. Oh, my God. No, of course we were. I remember specifically being like, I had to hang up my clothes. I remember being taught. And so by the time I was like 17, 18, I was like, okay, I'm going to hang out. But I also very specifically remember it being like a game where Ben would throw his shirts off and throw them as far as he could. Oh, my God. Just to piss you guys off, I feel like. Well, and Cheryl loved Ben. And so she would have done anything. And I would be like, do I need to talk to him? And she would be like, no, no, no. He's just being a boy. No. No. There's one other word we've heard quite a bit on this podcast, and I think it's the same word Ryder's going to say. Yep. So let's say it at the same time, Ryder. One, two, three. Tankini. Does this ring any bells? Does this ring a bell for Morgan? Oh, yeah. So we just watched the episode, and it's where Lindsay Ridgeway, who was playing Morgan, goes on her first date at 13th. Right. And there's a whole scene where her dad, Alan, Rusty, freaks out about the fact that she's wearing a tankini. And we had Lindsay on the podcast, and this was like one of her core memories from doing the show. Do you remember this at all? I remember bits and pieces. I just remember what was the big deal. Right. It was made to be such... A big deal. And Lindsay plays younger than she really is. Right. Right. So she was just like, what? You know, and my whole thing was like in any of that stuff was to just to make sure you guys are comfortable in it. And if you're not comfortable in it, I will go up to bat. Right. Right. And and I I don't recall. I mean, refresh my memory. What did Lindsay say about it? she just was somewhat traumatized by having to wear something so scantily clad you know because it's like a weird tank top belly showing thing that i didn't i don't know if we invented the tanking or if the but it was it was in the script so then yeah you know there there she just remembers there being a lot of discussion about you know how scantily clad she was going to look and how much how much to show how much to make yeah because you know the story point is that She's dressed too sexy for her dad. But of course, she's still actually very much a little girl. And yeah, so she just remembers having to wear this, you know, very feeling very exposed. I think we had to shorten the top because most tankinis, they're like one piece, not one piece, but the top is goes all the way down to your waist. And then you have the bottoms. I think we had to shorten them. I mean, it was I would say it was probably hardest for Lindsay just because you're in front of a camera. Right. You know, you're showing off everything. She's a teenager, too. Right. You know, she's growing up. So, I don't know. Maybe I just blocked it all out of my mind. Many of the trauma of, like, things that I had to put you guys through. Hmm. Right. Hi. This is Jo Winterstein, host of the Spirit Daughter Podcast, where we talk about astrology, natal charts, and how to step into your most vibrant life. And I just sat down with a mini driver. The Irish traveler said when I was 16, you're going to have a terrible time with men. Actor, storyteller, and unapologetic Aquarian visionary. Aquarius is all about freedom loving and different perspectives. And I find a lot of people with strong placements in Aquarius are misunderstood. A sun and Venus in Aquarius in her seventh house spark her unconventional approach to partnership. 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Because he knew exactly how he wanted to shoot it and operated the camera it was just and the entire cast seriously they i think they only each got like one perk so to do that to do that movie wait what does that mean that means like you know like i mean you get stars like george clooney and julie roberts you know like brad pitt they usually have like their own hair and makeup right personal dresser their you know personal assistants trailers all that's kind of yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah um but they each only picked one thing and i think was it george had his hairstylist um wall i think was his name really waldo because we were always like where's waldo uh i think matt uh matt had brought his own chef wow brad brad had his own makeup artist who also did his hair i think he she did his hair but they were all like i was i was thinking like oh my gosh we're going to be around a bunch of like divas yeah yeah sure sure no oh that's great so much fun don cheetle i love him to death you know awesome yeah but you can also and like brad pitt oh my gosh he was hilarious he was really funny and a total general Like he's the type of guy that they're calling people on to set. So, you know, you're running with your stuff. He will stop, hold the door open for you and make sure you go through. Oh, that's really nice to hear. Totally nice. Like really down to earth. We partied in Vegas a lot. I remember we would come through at like, I think it was like five o'clock in the morning. And I'd be walking down the Bellagio. like, you know, we'd be heading back to where we were staying at. And I'd see Brad at a table and like the entire place was empty except for that table. Yeah. And I was, yeah. And I was walking by and Brad would be like, Hey, Julie. And I'd be like, Oh, Hey, I'd walk over and we'd chat a little bit. And then I'd leave and I'd watch everybody's face. Like, who is that? Who is that? I mean, it got to the point that we, we felt like wanting to take care of them because they were like real people. Sure. But the fan base was very bizarre. Oh, I'm sure. But what is it like? I mean, you're going from, forget sitcom to film, which I want to get into because I know what a difference that is. But you're going from working with Disney, which is known to maybe squeeze a quarter till the eagle screams, to Ocean's Eleven, where you're dressing literally some of the best looking people in the history of the world. What kind of freedom did you have with that budget when it comes to the wardrobe compared to what you had on Boy Meets World? Well, for that, I want to say because I worked really close with the supervisor and she was the one who kind of was like, you need to really start supervising. And I was like, oh, no, I love being on set. I like working with the actors like, no, you need to start supervising. And so I would stay there with her at night doing receipts and most of the paperwork stuff. So I got to see like the budget wise. It is insane. I couldn't even imagine. Everything on that show, because Jeffrey Kerlin was a designer and he knew his down to the T. Like I remember like running down the aisles like during the Vegas scenes and he literally would be like, I'm going to change that person's necklace. That person needs earrings. Yeah, there are a few designers that do that. And he is one of them. But for him, it's the entire look. He made every single thing. Like every outfit, every shirt, Andy Garcia, everything. Tie, his shirt, his suit, like everything was made. Down to his shoes. We made him shoes. It's so timelessly cool. I love that movie and I still watch it because I teach now and I use it in a screenwriting class. And everybody still looks so stylish. Like it's not dated at all. It has this like everyone is just so effortlessly styled and cool. It's an amazing film. Everyone on that crew. I mean, Soderbergh, if you ever get a chance to work with him, it is amazing to watch. He knows exactly. He doesn't waste any time. He knows exactly what he wants, how he wants it shot. And it's just done. Like we never waited on the actors. They all just came. They all did their stuff. Like nobody was joking around. We were doing seven, eight hour days. Yeah, that's crazy to me. That's so cool to hear. That is crazy to me. Now, did you, what was, how big a shift is it going from four camera sitcom to a film of that size? I mean, was this, it's two different worlds, right? Yeah, completely different worlds. Is there one you prefer? It's so weird, though, because I felt like after the four camera, it seemed such a piece of cake compared to everything else. Now, the stuff that we did for features, it was hard, but you had a longer time. You had time to prep it. You had time to make it. you know, and you had time to dress it. Whereas on video or when we're doing four camera, it was very quick turnaround. I mean, we were shopping, putting stuff on you within like a couple of days and then you guys were on camera. And then having to get approval. We wouldn't even know who the guest cast was until like the day before sometimes. No, we would get them like maybe the day before or something like that. Wow. It's kind of like how they patterned the episodics. Episodics are the hardest things I've ever done. Wow. Because you're prepping a show, wrapping a show, and shooting a show all within 10 days. Right. And at the same time. And so this is when you're working on, you went on to Nip Tuck. Yeah. Vampire Diaries, and then some Breaking Bad. Breaking Bad, too. You've got to work on so many different things. That's incredible. Of like some of the coolest shows in the history. Yeah. I have been very, very fortunate. The people that I have been introduced to and have remained really good friends. When I started on Nip Tech, so Lou Eirich, who is the costume designer, she's just amazing. She does all of Ryan Murphy's stuff, all the American horrors, and I adored her. And she had this work ethic, but not only that, though, she was so incredibly creative. Like the things that she would come up with like she knew But Ryan Murphy the creator he was like that Like he is the type of man that would call Lou up and say so I was walking down on Fifth Avenue in front of, oh gosh, what showroom was it? And he's like, and I saw this dress and I knew Kimber needed to have this dress. So of course we contacted the showroom and everything and found out. And it was like, like a $5,000 dress. There was nothing written in a script, but he was like, no, she is going to wear that at some point. So, you know, it's down to the T that man is so incredibly creative and artistic. Like he knew like down to the lampshade, right. Exactly how he wants it. And, you know, And Lou has a huge pedigree behind her, too, in terms of the shows that she's been on. And, you know, and it's the details. Like, she's very into, like, the little details. Like, just the belt could completely change an outfit. And she's one of, I've been fortunate enough, a lot of the costume designers I've worked with, she was so incredibly hardworking. Like, I couldn't leave without her leaving. So I would just stay there and I would just keep doing paperwork and we'd be there for like 15 hours. And she'd be like, you need to go home. I was like, I can't leave until you leave. Right. But we both loved what we did. And that was like one of the things that I miss so much that I don't get to do as much. But I love those 15 hour days. I love those 16 hour days. They were crazy. OK, so you've got Breaking Bad. You've got Vampire Diaries. You've got show after show after show that are just the coolest things in the world. but I want to get into my world, the world of the nerd. So what is it like working on the Mandalorian? Please tell me Mandalorian stories. I worked with Shauna on Angel. Okay. And she had also done Firefly, which was like phenomenal. Great show. Yeah. and then um i had just met her and so she brought me on to angel and when i left angel to go do nip tech and we kept in touch and everything i helped her out here and there and when she called me i was like are you sure like i don't i i'm not i'm not i think i was like one of the only person that hadn't seen star wars that wait what still what no no i have i have i have especially when i when when you're offering a job on a star wars tv show the star wars tv show you had not seen a single star wars i'm i'm no i had seen i think like empire strikes back it was started with the second one oh my god oh julie i just remembered like i was my my cousins were gonna go watch it and my other cousin and i were like no we're gonna stay home and play dolls so they all went and you know i've seen it like bits and pieces on tv and i've never watched it from the beginning to end and i think like five years ago i did amazing amazing that's got to be a totally different type of costuming right i mean it's it's so yeah i mean there's appliances and there's helmets and guns which has got to be a whole different thing i mean is that just a whole different world when you get into kind of the fantasy sci-fi genre? Absolutely. Everything. I mean, I've been in situations where, you know, everything's made in-house, you know, or everything's like sent out and they're all made, you know, clothing-wise and everything. I've never been in a situation where we actually had our entire costume department, like, with specialty people making armor. And you had the other special... And then you had like, you know, a specialized person who does all the aging and dying down to the T. Yes. And you had your painters. Yes. And just even people on set, just the rotating. Right. I think at one point it was, I think just in that warehouse alone, we probably had about 40. Just people in there that I'm constantly just going, okay, what is going on? You know, and being thrown into that world where they had already done the first Mandalorian. And they had, you know, done Boba Fett. They had, you know, so they were, the crew was amazing. They, and they were all nerds. They knew everything. Those are my people. And so you must get to the point, because like, I imagine, you know, when you're working on something like, you know, Ocean's Eleven, you're dealing with the real world, right? So you know, like, what, when you're culturally, you're styling towards. with something like like mandalorian you have to just get to a point where you know different like tribes that have been completely made up and like are do you have to just like do you study for that or do you just absorb it by by being around it like oh i know that people from this planet dress like this right people from this is what ajala looks like yeah exactly like you just figure that like or is there like a is there a book a bible that you have to study how does it work it's actually i i talked to um a lot of the people who are working there more so than anything else and like alissa who was the acd she's a wealth of knowledge everybody who worked there excluding myself were huge like star like knew the whole trilogy everything right everything so so when i stepped into mandalorian they basically shoot uh pieces of every episode all at the same time okay and because it kind of flashes back and forth and all this stuff so by the time i came in to help with that um they had already done a lot of establishing things so i was just kind of getting caught up and but i was really there to help prep and to help start ahsoka so that's where my training really came in because of all the stormtroopers and i mean i was like up watching the cartoons because which are phenomenal julie julie yeah they're animated series sorry cartoons sorry apologies you're right i had to stay and watch the animated series and as i was breaking down the script things that i didn't understand i would go back and I would ask questions. So there's like this whole down to like where the stormtroopers came from. The colors. Right. The stormtroopers were the clones. Yeah. I know. Didn't you love the animated series though? The animated series is phenomenally good. Clone Wars was amazing. And it helped explain so much. Because when you're just thrown in it, you're just like what yeah yeah and also like everybody knew all the the verbiage was the one that i was having a really hard time figuring out the twillickies the ones with the you know the ears and then all the different animations and how we were going to do it and right it was so overwhelming i mean it got to the point where i was dreaming it and dreaming like awesome what each clone from each era and how they evolved. Right. The color. Great dreams. Do you have a favorite? Do you have a favorite, like, style of Star Wars world, like, planet, tribe, person, team? I don't know. What are the different things? No. Droid styles. They'd be races. I mean, it'd be different races. What's your favorite? Yeah, they're all different races, and they each have beauty in them. I mean, like, my favorite outfits, in all honesty, though, I love those red witches. yeah cool you know and also it's just there's like this whole history behind like when you see one character but there's like one little piece because it that he has on or that they'll have on that actually goes back to like yeah i don't know a three other series right some deep history It's deep. And a lot of the fan base, I mean, they're hardcore. Yeah, they're cute. That's the thing. If you mess up one Nightsister or Ventress or anybody, people are going to be like, well, that's wrong. Yeah. What are you thinking? What did you just do? Yeah. I mean, you can really do this with anything. I mean, at the end of the day, you could say the same thing for, you know, Jane Austen. For the world of Jane Austen, it's like the language has its own kind of thing. The costumes is their own thing. the the every mannerism it's its own thing it's a micro world which is what star wars is so it's i know the beauty of that now what do we have to do to get you to dress us like stormtroopers and put us in something do you have our clothes not not throw them on top not throw no he threw his whole star wars costume on the stormtrooper maybe don't steal your cigarettes what else you know what's crazy was we actually had um some of the stormtroopers the the from the original that were made in london all right yeah we had their they were they were beautifully like they looked beautiful but there were cracks and oh i'm sure back then they i mean to make it look amazing they weren't they weren't functional right right they were just like well I remember Mark Hamill telling me a story about how for Darth Vader the suit is so clunky that they'd only shoot him from the knees up because there was a guy lying down on the ground holding one foot and another guy lying down on the ground holding the other foot and they'd rock him into his position because because the costumes are so they weren't functional at all at the time they are not functional at all so we had actually repurposed for the clones right we had repurposed you know some of them and the bits and pieces and then we realized oh my gosh you can't because there's so much action so then you have the stunt guys and every time they got hit it go there were so many even you know like on mandalorian like all of all their jet packs and their helmets to make it functioning you know they couldn't be made there was one that was for on camera right and then there's one for actual functioning and i remember on manda they had this one scene where they wanted um oh gosh i forgot her name because everything is kind of a blur right now but they wanted her to be able to throw her helmet and i they called me my set people called me and i was like there is no way in hell that you throw that helmet i have one picture and i have one that looks half that's for stunts so they can do that but she cannot take off this other one and just throw it because it will crack it's not it's not emily it's not emily swallow from the armor the one who played the armor okay no gotcha uh oh i can't think of her name i'm horrible i'm still the same person nothing has changed i'm horrible with names hopefully you quit smoking hopefully you quit smoking. I've been like, I know you guys by face and everything, but then I start blanking out. It's all menopause. I blame it on menopause. Oh man. Well, we've had so much fun talking to you today. I'm sorry that Danielle had to bail. Um, but you know, I, I guess my, my big question for you would be looking back on your amazing career, which is still going and you don't have to say us because we're on right now what's the project that sticks out to you most as you're like that that right there is the one i want to be remembered for oh i don't think there's any project that i would honestly say like i would like to be remembered for um for me every project was special in its own way but i would say it would be a tie between um boy meets world and nip tuck i grew up in boy meets world right i really did i kind of came into just being more confident yeah but and just being okay because even during boy meets world it was a weird situation i technically wasn't i didn't have a costume design title my title was supervisor so I managed all the paperwork but yet I dictated it in terms of like shopping and deciding what you guys wore you know with Michael Jacobs and the rest of the writing crew um creativity wise not so much I mean my hands were pretty tied on certain things so for me it was more about paperwork but you guys were like the first group that I really got to create a family with yeah and i only have the best memories oh especially the finale oh we cry i mean there's like so many the bear didn't we we had yes yeah yes yep which danielle did not remember by the way didn't remember the bear at all remember that we had a bear on set covered in honey and running from a bear and she had no memory of it whatsoever I remember it because I remember the guy telling all the women, like, if you're on, if it's that time of the month, you can't be on set. He'll come after you. Yikes. Yeah. Don't you guys are, I mean, I, oh gosh. No, I mean, all of our memories are of laughing on set. Like literally all we think of, like when I think about Boy Meets World, more than anything, I just think about us laughing together all the time. Just all the time. It's so it's such a positive memory. And thank you so much for I mean, just listening to hear how you stood up for Danielle. And, you know, like that is truly like that is an invaluable thing that you did. And I was so scared, though. Yeah. At that point, I was kind of like, OK, fire me. Right. Because, you know, and thank God for Karen, too, because she was she was a big advocate also and was just like, we are not doing this. And you guys just made it so much fun. I will have to say, like the things that you guys did. Yes. Sometimes. Sometimes. I'm so bummed you're in North Carolina because we have to go to dinner. We have to have like a long three-hour meal and catch up. Oh, my gosh. I can't. Yes. Where are you in North Carolina? I'm actually down in Carolina Beach. So it's down Wilmington. Okay. Great. Thank you so much. It's so great to see you. It was really great seeing you guys too. And I hope everything has been amazing for you guys. Yeah. Yeah, you as well. And we're so happy to see you. And hopefully we get to see you in person and give you a big hug soon. Absolutely. You guys take care. You too. Bye, Julian. Bye. Bye. Dude, A, she looks the same. But B, what a career. I know. No kidding. Insane, the show she's worked on. The second I saw her, it's just like all the memories come flooding back. And it's just like, right. We like she was just part of our group. Like, and we used to go to, I mean, it would, by the end, we weren't in our dressing rooms at all. We would go hang out. We'd be on set. Yeah. We had craft service. We'd be in Julie's room. Yeah. Because once I got out of school, I was never anywhere but on set. Right. We were just always hanging out and just craft service, Julie's room. Yeah. We would just be roaming around, laughing, telling stories. I mean, just constantly making each other laugh. Yeah. just the best. It was such a great environment. So much fun. Her laugh is the same. It brought me right back. All right. We don't have Danielle. Can you do the outro? What do we say? Oh, I have to do it because you have to do the merch call. Do you want to switch it up? Do you want me to do the outro and you do the merch call? No, because I don't have any ideas. You got to... Thank you all for joining us for this episode of Pod Meets World. As usual, you can write to us somewhere. PodMeetsWorldShow at gmail.com. 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