Somewhere in the Skies

NEW Pentagon UAP Video RELEASED, Banks Prepare for ALIENS, DISCLOSURE in July?

132 min
Feb 4, 20262 months ago
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Summary

This episode of 'Somewhere in the Skies' covers multiple UAP/UFO developments including New Jersey's historic $2.5M annual funding for university-based UFO research, claims of a July 8th disclosure date by Trump, the Varginha UFO incident's National Press Club event, and newly released military infrared footage of unidentified objects. The hosts discuss government transparency issues, FOIA request denials, and the potential economic implications of UAP disclosure.

Insights
  • Academic legitimization of UFO research through university funding and curriculum integration represents a significant shift from stigmatization to scientific inquiry
  • Government FOIA responses denying searches for classified programs (like Immaculate Constellation) rather than claiming non-existence suggests potential acknowledgment through strategic non-disclosure
  • Controlled media access and embargoed briefings indicate deliberate narrative management of UAP disclosure by Pentagon officials
  • Economic and financial institutions are beginning to prepare contingency plans for potential UAP disclosure, indicating serious institutional concern about disclosure impacts
  • Multiple credible witnesses and officials stepping forward despite personal risk suggests growing confidence in disclosure momentum
Trends
State-level UAP research funding emerging as alternative to federal government inactionAcademic integration of UFO studies into legitimate university curricula and religious studies programsFinancial sector preparing for 'ontological shock' and market disruption from potential disclosureIncreased FOIA request denials and classification claims suggesting tighter government information controlMilitary thermal imaging footage of unexplained aerial phenomena being selectively released to mediaInternational coordination on UAP investigation between US Congress and foreign governments (Brazil)Documentary filmmakers and independent researchers conducting parallel investigations to official channelsSpecific disclosure date predictions gaining traction despite historical pattern of failed predictionsWeaponization of FOIA process through selective document releases timed to media eventsOrb-shaped UAP sightings becoming more prominent in official military documentation
Topics
New Jersey UAP Research FundingJuly 8th Disclosure PredictionVarginha UFO Incident InvestigationPentagon FOIA Request DenialsImmaculate Constellation ProgramFinancial System Preparedness for DisclosureMilitary Thermal Imaging UAP FootageArea 51 Dorito-Shaped Craft SightingOrbs in Formation Pentagon DocumentationAcademic Legitimization of UFO StudiesGovernment Narrative Control and Media AccessInternational UAP Investigation CoordinationHavana Syndrome and UAP ConnectionClassified Military Aircraft TestingExhumation Request for Varginha Witness
Companies
Bank of England
Former senior analyst Helen McCaw warned the central bank about potential financial chaos from UAP disclosure
New York Times
Journalists Leslie Kean and Ralph Blumenthal covered the Varginha UFO incident National Press Club event
The Debrief
Published article by Leslie Kean on Varginha incident and National Press Club event coverage
Pentagon
Conducted embargoed media briefing on UAP historical review and released thermal imaging footage of unexplained objects
Department of Defense
Denied FOIA search for Immaculate Constellation records citing non-existence of alleged special access program
Office of the Director of National Intelligence
Released one-page document denying Immaculate Constellation program existence while documenting internal awareness
U.S. Air Force
Operated MQ-9 Reaper drone that captured thermal imaging of unidentified objects in Persian Gulf in 2012
Galileo Project
Harvard-based research initiative led by Avi Loeb, mentioned in context of Epstein files discovery
Soul Foundation
Founded by Gary Nolan and colleagues to study UAP phenomenon from scientific perspective
MUFON
Robert Spearing from MUFON speaking at 2026 UAP Detection and Tracking Summit
People
Danny Sheehan
Constitutional litigator and Full Disclosure Podcast host providing legal perspective on UFO phenomenon
Ryan Sprague
Host of Somewhere in the Skies podcast, currently in Japan, covering latest UAP news and developments
Suzanne
Co-host of Somewhere in the Skies, conducting independent UFO crash site research and FOIA investigations
Mark Christopher Lee
UK documentary filmmaker claiming Trump insider source predicting July 8th, 2026 UFO disclosure date
James Fox
Documentary filmmaker investigating Varginha UFO incident, filed FOIA requests, tracking retrieval evidence
Leslie Kean
New York Times journalist covering Varginha incident and National Press Club event with exclusive access
Ralph Blumenthal
Co-author of 2017 New York Times UFO article, covering Varginha incident for The Debrief
Eric Berlinson
US Congressman attending Varginha National Press Club event, coordinating with Brazilian senator on investigation
Gary Nolan
Geneticist and Soul Foundation founder discussing UAP science and government research on major podcast
Mayim Bialik
Actress with PhD in neuroscience interviewing Gary Nolan on UAP science and research methodology
Helen McCaw
Former Bank of England senior analyst warning about financial chaos risks from UAP disclosure
John Greenwald
Black Vault FOIA researcher documenting government denials on Immaculate Constellation and media access control
Anders Otteson
Uncanny Expeditions filmmaker capturing infrared footage of triangular craft over Area 51
George Knapp
Journalist releasing official Pentagon thermal imaging of unidentified orbs in Persian Gulf formation
Jeremy Corbell
Documentary filmmaker co-hosting Weaponized podcast, releasing classified military UAP footage
Nick Pope
Former UK Ministry of Defense UFO investigator providing analysis of Area 51 craft sighting
Michio Kaku
Theoretical physicist discussing classification of UFO sightings and close encounter categories
David Grush
Whistleblower whose story was broken by New York Times journalists, referenced in disclosure context
Phil Murphy
New Jersey Governor signing historic legislation funding university-based UAP research
Avi Loeb
Harvard professor and Galileo Project head mentioned in Epstein files discovery context
Quotes
"We need to figure out the how before the why always always"
Gary NolanRegarding UAP research methodology
"The silence says it all"
SuzanneRegarding Immaculate Constellation FOIA denial
"If you were in a real scientific theater with me right now, we would drum you out like dirt"
Gary NolanRegarding scientific debunkers ignoring evidence
"There's nothing to hide there's nothing to hide at all"
Danny SheehanOpening statement about UFO phenomenon
"We don't answer to the government. The government answers to you"
Ryan SpragueRegarding Varginha incident and government accountability
Full Transcript
My name is Danny Sheehan. I'm a constitutional litigator who's tried some of the most important cases in recent American history. From Pentagon Papers, the Watergate scandal, to Iran-Contra. My legal career has led me now to this pivotal moment. As our human family confronts the implications of the existence here on our planet of extraterrestrial or extra dimensional non-human species, I will be your guide as we dive into the profound philosophical, theological, and public policy questions pertaining to the UFO phenomenon, alien life, and the citizen movement for disclosure. This is the Full Disclosure Podcast, coming to you from the New Paradigm Institute on SpectraVision Radio. SpectraVision Radio. While our government's official position is not to speculate on this subject, we can choose to let our minds explore other possibilities, to use our imaginations. For if we consider that astro-scientists agree on one more, that the possibility of light elsewhere is not only quite probable, some few of us are there without a doubt. Let us suppose then that these objects are real space vehicles, extraterrestrial words, and not an illusion of the mind. there's nothing to hide there's nothing to hide at all konichiwa what's up guys right it's frank here from somewhere in the live stream that was my sad attempt at saying hello in japanese i'm in japan still um oh my gosh i've been here for about three weeks. It's been incredible so far. An adventure, to say the least. But I have to do these live streams. I got to talk to you guys. There's so much going on in the world of UFOs, and it doesn't stop just because I am literally on the other side of the world from most people I know. It is 6.11 a.m. here in the future, Monday. I know most of you are still in your Sunday evenings So I still want to thank you for spending your time with us tonight On somewhere in the live stream As Suzanne and I break down all the latest UFO and UAP news for you guys And boy, is there a lot going on Oh man, there's one story I'm not even sure if I want to bring it up Because I don't want to get sued for slander But we'll see, we'll see I'll have to ask our lawyer if it's okay to or not but we'll get there we'll get there guys welcome to all of our regulars i see you in the chat it's so good to see you guys here um yeah if you have any questions about what it's like to live in japan um throw them in the chat i i've got another two and a half weeks here um it's been an adventure like i said to say the least um i do if he's watching and or listening want to give a very special shout out to my newfound friend, Darren, and listener of the show. I got to meet up with my buddy Darren last night here in Osaka, Japan. We went out for a night I will, I somewhat forgot, but will also remember forever. We went to an isekaya, which is basically here in Japan. It's, you know, like a bar that does a ton of like chicken skewers and beef skewers and stuff like that. You know, these places that all the businessmen in Japan go after a 12-hour day at work because these people work like crazy here. I respect the hell out of it. And they go and just, you know, eat and drink the night away. And that's what Darren and I did last night. So, like I said, 6 a.m. here. Got home just a few hours ago. So, you boys a little hungover, if you can't tell by my raspy voice. I feel like I'm two octaves lower than I've ever been in my life. I kind of like it. I kind of like it. There's no longer that ASMR feel of Ryan Sprague here. So, yeah, yeah. How good is the food from 7-Eleven, Eric asks. Dude. All right. So this is a big thing here in Japan. Convenience stores, or covenies, if they call them here, are huge. Now, you know, in the States and even in, like, the UK where I currently live, convenience stores, they're, you know, where you just pop in to grab whatever, a Gatorade or a bag of chips, or they are there for your convenience. But here, it is a part of the culture. There is, the top three are Family Mart, Lawson, and 7-Eleven. And when you think of 7-Eleven, like, you're thinking what I'm thinking, you know. Like, again, you go there at 3 in the morning to get a beer or whatever. These are, like, on every single street corner. There's a Lawson next to a Family Mart. There's a Family Mart across the street from a Family Mart. There's a Family Mart on the corner. That Family Mart is talking to this Family Mart. that family mart is related to that family mart it's incredible and you can get amazing pre-made food there it's honestly been a godsend for someone who doesn't speak the language here it's hard to go into a restaurant and try to communicate so these stores are there and you can just go get a pre-made meal of chicken katsu and rice and everything you could possibly think of. They've got spaghetti and chicken parmesan. They've got pizza. They've got everything up to your quidditch center of Japanese dishes as well. So, yeah, shout out to 7-Eleven. It has been a godsend. So has the conveyor belt sushi. Sushi Row and Kura are the two top conveyor belt sushi places here. And I think Jane and I have been there to both of those at least 10 times now. Again, like, Japan is huge. It is a huge place, billions of people here, and, like, there's so much food everywhere you turn. But Conveyor Belt Sushi, my favorite. You literally just push a button, comes down the belt, you eat it. You know, you order them as you eat. It's genius, genius, genius, genius. and it's so cheap it's so cheap for quality food um so i cannot recommend it enough um i do want to i know this is japan hour here um i want to share some awesome stuff that i've got so far i thought you guys might like that um i'm a big star wars fan if you can't tell um and i got this really cool book it's literally like a guide to star wars and it is all in japanese um japanese script so no i can't really read it but uh it's a collector's item for sure uh so i had to get that um another big thing in japan they're called gotchas again just like convenience stores they're on every corner uh think like those quarter machines in the united states or the UK where you put a quarter in and you get a little toy or whatever. Here, you put the money in and you don't know what you're going to get. It's like a mystery. Like they'll have images on the front of the machine of like all the different gifts that are in the machine, but you don't know what you're going to get. It's super fun. You know, it's frustrating because you're not, you're paying for something that you might not like, but hey, it's part of the fun, part of the mystery. but your boy got really lucky when he did one of the gotchas and he got this isn't that so cool it's literally flies hold on i think yep and it's got a tractor beam too on the bottom i am in heaven here guys everything is ufo and aliens here oh my god i'm gonna post some photos on my social media um there's this Oh, that is bright. There is this place called Mandrake, I believe it's called, that is like a used bookstore and toys and all that. And they have, throughout the stores, these huge Roswell aliens in glass tubes. Like they're in a secret laboratory or something. It's so cool. I'll post the photos on my social media. Don't look into the light. I will not look into the light again, my friend. I do not want to get abducted. That's for sure. Ryan, are you taller than everyone? Sadly, Juan, I am not. Yeah, I will say this. The men are much taller than I anticipated. So, yeah, I'm a little insecure here. I'm not going to lie. as kind of a token white boy in the neighborhood of Osaka I'm living in. I stand out like a very pasty sore thumb. That's for sure. That is for sure. But look, there's no getting around it. Being a foreigner in a country that is somewhat isolated, you know, Japan is an incredible place. I fell in love with it the first time I came here. I'm falling in love with it even more, being here again. But they, how do I put it diplomatically? They don't, they're being overrun by tourists at the moment. They're hitting a tourism boom like they've never seen before. And the infrastructure here just cannot handle it. There's just not enough space. They're islands. And they're not as big as people think. and you know it is kind of unfortunately like in the United States they don't look too kindly on foreigners it's just the way things are and you can't change it it's their country if they want that to change they need to fight for that politically the elections here in Japan are going on right now you might even hear some bullhorn stuff going on in my neighborhood because it's prime election time, and they can't hand out flyers or do any of that sort of campaigning stuff here. It's illegal. But what they can do is drive by your neighborhood at 8 in the morning and shout from a bullhorn for an hour and a half. So, yeah, get ready for that. But, yeah, all this to say, it's a little xenophobic here. I'm not going to lie. They do not look kindly on foreigners. especially Chinese, which is sad, but also white people, too. Again, like, at first, you come here and everyone's staring at you. It's changed a lot. Like, 10 years ago, if a white person came to Japan, it was like they immediately thought you were, like, a celebrity or something, like Tom Cruise. Things have changed a little bit, but, yeah, like, I get looks everywhere I go here and not for the best a lot of the time, especially the old men in Japan. They really don't like me being here, and they will say things. So it is probably the only time in my life as a white heterosexual male that I will feel any sort of oppression, I guess. I don't even, I feel like that's offensive. It's not oppressive. Like, it's not like they're, you know, kicking me out of places or anything. But I'm digging myself in a hole here. I'm going to shut up. Yeah, it's interesting. It's interesting living in another country. Again, I thought Scotland was bad. But, yeah, yeah, it's interesting to say the least. Back to my gifts. Back to my gifts. You guys have heard me ramble enough. I got this guy. I'm a big Ultraman fan. For those of you who don't know who Ultraman is, look him up. He's one of the most famous heroes here in Japan. You know, they've remade it, Americanized it in the West with shows like Superhuman Samurai, Cyber Squad. Power Rangers is another big one. If you didn't know, the original Power Rangers series in the U.S. was used from recycled footage of old Japanese superhero shows. And then they would film, you know, teenagers in America, they would film their section. But all the battles, all the things in costume, that was old material from like the 80s. So that's why if you ever watched Power Rangers, all the battle scenes looked super gritty and old. And all the kids scenes were like, look shiny and new. That's a big thing. That's a big thing here. But Ultraman is one of my favorites. And the other big one is Kamen Rider, the Masked Rider. He's my favorite, favorite, favorite. I'm still looking for the perfect toy of Kamen Rider. I will get it before I leave here, and I'll post that. Look him up. He looks super cool. I just, I love the aesthetics of, like, the superheroes in Japan. They're so, so cool. So different from the United States and whatnot. It's not these big, bulky, you know, Avengers-type things. They're, like, super slick martial artists and stuff. Really cool, really cool. I got this little C-3PO I love him there we go he's a keychain keychains are big here okay this has to be my favorite thing I've got there's this place called Village Vanguard and it's kind of like Spencer's Gifts in the United States or like a hot topic you go and find these fun weird gifs they got a bunch of rock and roll stuff stuff like that um alternative lifestyles i guess um and they had a ufo section in one of the village vanguard uh places that i went to in tokyo yesterday i was in tokyo yesterday i probably should have mentioned that i was in tokyo took a bullet train back home to osaka and then got home a few hours ago that's just uh darren what am i gonna do with you man what am i gonna do with you but when i was in tokyo on one of the shelves in a ufo section i found this the original ufos generals pilots and government officials go on the record by leslie kane all in japanese so cool again like can i read it no is it something i'm gonna treasure forever yep it's so cool it's so cool like I just I love the cover whoop I forgot the books are backwards here I I should mention that the way they read uh it's backwards and it's like top to bottom it's not front words left or right like in the United States so um yeah again another thing I'm learning but yeah I just thought this was so so cool and I will treasure this forever um you know a lot of people have when they go to places for vacation and stuff they like to get certain things um for me it's books which is probably a horrible thing because then i have i have dozens and dozens of books that i have to lug around the world at this point but hey hey it's worth it It's worth it. Okay. I think that's... Oh, no. This t-shirt. Viva La Mort. This came from my buddy Darren. Again, shout out to him. He got me this incredible t-shirt by his artist friend. I'm going to put up the t-shirt. This is the front. It just says Viva La Mort. Put it on the back. Let's see if I can share screen this. I can. This is what's on the back of the t-shirt. Um, I see that. Oops, sorry. I surprised her there. I didn't mean to do that. I'm sorry. On the back is this really cool image of the Hitachi building, which is in here in Osaka. Very famous tower. It's like Osaka's Tokyo Tower, basically. but the logo is from Bad Brains which is one of my favorite punk bands from back in the day so they did a collaboration with Bad Brains this t-shirt is actually banned in Osaka for reasons I'm not sure but yeah I was able to, Darren was able to get me this t-shirt so I got it in black and I'm so so so thankful for that he got me Japanese cheesecake I mean the dude was just awesome He was so cool. And then when we were at the Izekiah last night, he noticed a celebrity that was in the restaurant with us from Japan. She is a J vlogger, a Japanese vlogger here on YouTube. And her name, I want to get it right, is Aki Dearest. I don't know if anyone in the chat watches Aki Dearest, but I went to her channel and she's got three million subscribers. um but yeah she was sitting like right in the front of the restaurant so shout out to Aki Dearest if you happen to be watching this um it was cool for Darren who knew who she was and now I've been introduced to her as well so yeah I'll have to look her up look her up subscribe Aki Dearest on YouTube um holy hell enough of Japan hour let's get to UFO stuff you guys are probably like what is going on here um super chat and super stickers are open tonight if you would like to help out the show um we would greatly appreciate it i actually am doing a goal tonight of 10 super chats of any kind i don't care a dollar two dollars five dollars whatever guys help out the show um and if we reach our goal of 10 super chats i will do a special live stream episode here on the streets of Japan. I'm also going to a location of a famous Japanese UFO event, the Utsura-bun incident, which happened back in the, gosh, 1800s? I want to say, 1600s? Oh my gosh, I'm getting my history all mixed up now. It's a famous Japanese UFO case. And I was able to actually locate the beach where I believe this event happened, where something washed ashore that Japanese fishermen found, and it was unlike anything they've ever seen before. It is probably the most famous Japanese UFO case. Ryan, have you seen a UFO or drone in Japan yet? Not yet, Juan. Not yet, but I do have plans to go on a skywatch in Nara, Japan, something Darren and I might try to hit up before I leave here. But I'm actually heading up to Hokkaido on Thursday here. in Japan. Hokkaido is like super north in Japan on very rural mountains and I'm going to be staying in Sapporo, Japan and then traveling to Hokkaido to do some accompanying my partner as she does her PhD work here in Japan. That's why I'm here. I probably should have mentioned that at the top. My partner is getting a PhD in Japanese history, specifically the Ainu people of Japan, who are the indigenous people here. So they're not actually Japanese. It's a long story, but that's the research she's doing, and it's afforded us this incredible opportunity. And I will be forever grateful to her for letting me tag along for this next month and a half or so. But yeah, I'm going to be traveling up to Hokkaido Where the skies are clear, man And I am super excited Very, very excited I will definitely be looking for UFOs While I'm out there, that's for sure That is for sure Okay Let's get to Okay, yep, Super Chat, Super Stickers are open Yep, yep, thank you, Suzanne I knew I was forgetting something Oh my god The hangover is real. That's why I got coffee. This is cool, guys. Before I get to the code word for tonight, which I need you to go do something special. We have a very cool offer for you guys. Coming up in just, gosh, under five days now is the 2026 UAP Detection and Tracking Summit. summit this is a virtual conference that is taking place online and i am very excited for this i cannot wait to watch it um and i uh was the wow can't talk the uap summit reached out to me and they said hey um would you be up to promoting this event for us and i get asked to do things like this all the time there are certain events i don't wish to promote uh for obvious reasons in the UFO field, just things I don't think I personally would want to platform. But this is definitely one that I want to platform. I think it's going to be an incredible event. And I really hope you guys will check it out. The 2026 UAP Detection and Tracking Summit. It's taking place February 7th through the 8th. I'm going to share screen here in just a moment the website so you can take a look at some of the other speakers. But I have a very special offer for you guys. 35% off tickets right now. If you go to that website that you see on your screen there, ryanspreg.pursuingx.com. ryanspreg.pursuingx.com. There is a link in the show notes of this episode as well. If you just want to go click that and use the code SUMMIT35, and you will get 35% off tickets to that. But let's go ahead and share screen quickly because we got to get to the news. Poor Suzanne. I'm going to go through some of this with you guys. So, yeah, I'm an affiliate for this. So if you use that code and use this website, you get a discount to tickets. I'll be watching. I know Suzanne's going to be watching. A lot of people, I just, they reached out to me yesterday and said, we've had a bunch of people sign up to your affiliate page. So thank you. And I want to thank them for even thinking of me. And they're giving me a free ticket to watch, so I'm super excited about that. But, yeah, this is basically an event that's going to be talking about aerospace safety and whatnot and detecting things in our skies that presumably should not be there, why we need to understand our skies, what's in our skies. So it's bringing together leading scientists, researchers, and stuff like that. I mean, these speakers are so cool. You've got Eric Berlinson that's going to be talking, James Fowler, Gene Grenecker, David Dominguez Hooper. You've got Richard Hoff, Fred Powison, Beatrice Villauriel will be speaking as well. The Tedesco brothers are going to be talking about their Nightcrawler technology. Robert Spearing from MUFON, Rich Hoffman from the SCU. Massimo Teodorani. Whoa, I could not get his name right. I apologize. So, yeah, yeah, tons of speakers are going to be talking at this virtual event. So I definitely think you guys should check that out. Again, let's get this back on the screen. RyanSpreg.PursuingX.com 35% off tickets right now with the code SUMMIT35 link is in the show notes for that as well one more code word for you guys this is your code word for today what I need you to do is go over to Apple Podcasts or Spotify and rate and review somewhere in the skies somewhere in your review on Apple use the word Dorito or in the comments of this episode in the future on Spotify use the word Dorito in the comments as well that way I will know that you watched and or listened to this episode today, tonight, this morning wherever you are Apple Podcast Reviews and Spotify comments go a very long way and truly do help us out to get us featured and find more listeners so I can't thank you guys enough for doing that Again, your code word for today is Dorito. That'll make more sense later in the episode as well. So thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for that. Longest preamble in history. My God. So without further ado, we are going to finally, 28 minutes in, get to the UFO news. And she's on a time limit tonight, so I don't want to waste any more time. Let's bring her in It is the one It is the only Hi stranger how are you I am good I'm good We were talking off air We have like an hour window To talk to each other every day now Because of the time differences Yes we have one little block of time each morning And one little block of time every afternoon And all questions go fast fire And those two things because somebody's going to sleep I know it's like word vomit I'm like I gotta get this in This is what happened today. This is what we're talking about on the live stream. I'll see you tomorrow. Bye. Right. Oh, my gosh. It's worth it, though. These live experiences on these kinds of trips, they're irreplaceable. They are. And, you know, Darren, last night, my new found friend and listener, we were talking, and I was telling him about my travels, where I'm headed next after Japan and everything. And I told him I haven't slept in my own bed in almost three and a half months. And he's like, dude, how do you do it? and I'm like coffee baby coffee coffee and a prayer um but no I I love it and like you said like you know when these opportunities arise you just have to take them in life and that's not I'm not talking about traveling to another country like that just so happens to be what I'm doing right now but like even the smallest things like take a leap take a leap like just do it um there's so many times where I'm like, I don't want to do that, or I just don't feel like it. And I think that's like a product of the COVID era too. Like we get so used to like being in our homes and just doing stuff like this. Like no offense to you, me, or the chat, but like this is how we live our lives now through screens a lot for good and for bad. But like when those opportunities arise to like be face-to-face with someone and have a conversation and go to a bar in a country that you don't speak the language. Like, just do it. It'll be a story to tell. And I can tell you I'm significantly older than you are, but I can tell you when you get to where I am in life, you look back, and these trips and these experiences, even though you might be dead tired, that's where real value is. Of course, there are other things as well, but don't discount those moments because they matter. Absolutely. Absolutely. And you are not that much older than me. Stop it. Don't do that. Don't do that. But you're too humble. But yes, you are right. You are right. Like the older I get too. I'm like, just you have to take these. You do. Play hard and sleep hard. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. I love it. Well, hey, we have compiled some really interesting stories. what do we it didn't start out this way the beginning of this week i'm thinking oh my god we're going to be playing tiddlywings again that always happens boom it just exploded i know i always get so worried and then um like the day before we go live yeah everything happens um so i guess we'll begin in new jersey let's do this is a great story awesome um let me pull up the old slideshow. We got a cool story from our buddy Tom Thompson over on X. I highly suggest people go give him a follow. His Twitter handle, X handle, whatever you call that website, is cortex underscore zero. Really cool stuff that he posts over there. And he posted this really cool story about how New Jersey is becoming the first state to fund UFO research. So I'll read a little bit here. Recently in New Jersey, Governor Phil Murphy has officially signed historic aviation safety legislation into law, making New Jersey the first state in the nation to explicitly fund university based research into UAP. The bill is part of a broader aviation safety package sponsored by Senator Raj Merkaji. The funding, $2.5 million appropriated annually to NJ Public Universities. $22 million. Yeah, it's a refilling bucket. Refilling bucket. So let's keep in mind how much money was given to the United States government to investigate UFOs. 22 million, apparently. And here we have 2.5 million that, like you said, is reoccurring in universities to study UFOs. That's amazing. Yeah. The goal, Tom writes here, is to establish a dedicated center for study of UAP. You know, the topic's been stigmatized for so long and locked behind classification. But integrating UAP study into academic and aviation safety programs, it legitimizes the data and demands scientific answers. So while the federal government drags its feet on transparency, New Jersey is stepping up to do the science themselves. So go New Jersey. Especially from a perspective of aerial safety. And I don't understand why that hasn't been sort of a cinch pin in all of this for a decade. Because for a decade with modern tech, we know what's happening in the air and it's not safe. And the whistleblowers say it's not safe. And they have, you know, their lives flashing before their eyes constantly. And yet here we are. And now little New Jersey is going to step up to the plate where the big boy is missing the ball. Exactly You know Ryan Graves he be speaking at the UAP Summit as well And that his big thing with his company too So like yeah yeah I think you know this is such it what I like to call the gateway into UFOs these tracking, detection, UAP drones, I hate to use that word, but, like, that is a way to get people, like, oh, yeah, our skies should be safe. I fly all the time. I want to make sure we're not flying into a critical UAP. And then that gets people interested. So I think, you know, this is a good way and a good gateway for people to get interested in the UAP topic. And academically, I mean, how long have we strived to get UFOs in the classroom? And again, I know I brought it up in the past and I'm going to keep doing it. My book, Somewhere in the Skies, is currently being taught in two universities in the United States. That is very rare, very rare. And, you know, granted, it's in one's in a religious studies course. That's fine. And the other is in something else as well. But like that's how you get people interested. I did a virtual conference with the students of one of the universities, and it was one of the most incredible experiences of my life. The questions these students were asking, they were so excited to talk about the topic of UFOs. So let me ask you this. Let's say you went back to school right now or go back to the days of university when you did go. If you saw a course being offered on UFOs, who's not going to sign up for that? I know. Who wouldn't? And don't you think it's interesting that one university is packaging it inside religious curriculum? I think that's an act of bravery because over and over again as we study the impacts of catastrophic disclosure or versus control disclosure, we hear that catastrophic disclosure might rock religion to the ground. and yet somebody's brave. Somebody's stepping up, trying to meet the moment. Absolutely. Shout out to Rich McCarty. If you happen to be watching this, he's the professor who reached out to me and asked if he could put my book in his curriculum. And he was a speaker at Nomicon a couple of years ago. And he gave an incredible talk about religion and UFOs. He's a pastor who teaches at a university as well. And, yeah, I will be forever grateful. I bet. And, yeah. And there's students are, too. Yeah. I hope so. Thank you for saying that. And, you know, I think UFOs get a bad rap when it comes to the word religion. Sure. Because a lot of people are like, UFOs are religion. It's a belief system. It's a cult, you know. And it can be. It definitely can be. Totally. But I think we need to also separate religion and UFOs and realize, like, they can live in harmony and not be considered a cult either, you know. Yep. it's not one or the other exactly cool story Juan says is that the home of the Jersey Devil it is the Pinewoods of New Jersey I gotta go hunting for that next time my two best friends live in New Jersey so maybe you will do a oh my god that would be the live stream of this century I'm gonna put a GPS on you for that it's still missing please do You might as well put a GPS on me here if I keep hanging out with Darren, too, because I'm going to end up like the Yakuza are going to kidnap me or something. I'll come looking for you. We'll get a posse going. Thank you. Thank you. Well, speaking of, I guess, mafia ties and criminals, let's get to our next story. I had to. I had to. You couldn't help yourself. I could not. I could not. This story has been making the rounds online. It's kind of gone viral, even outside of the UFO world, because some big claims are being made right now by one individual. One individual. There's a gentleman named Mark Christopher Lee from the U.K. who is a documentary filmmaker. I have never seen any of his films. I'll have to check him out at some point. But however, it's not his films that are in the news right now. It is a claim that he's made on TikTok about Donald Trump is going to disclose the truth about UFOs and aliens. And there is a exact date that this is going to happen. Suzanne I'm going to play Two TikToks from Mark Where he says the date And why he believes this is going to happen And how he got this information So let me go ahead and play that quick And then we will Discuss this As best we can I'm sure you do As you should Here's the two TikToks that he's put up I'm going to play them back to back here Check these out guys Okay massive breaking bombshell news remember that washington trump administration insider that told me that president trump had already written the speech ready to go for ufo disclosure this year well now he's got back to me and told me the exact date and you can hold me to account for this okay uh it's going to be july the 8th why july the 8th you might ask well it's basically the 79 9th anniversary since the Roswell press release. So that's why. And he's basically going to be saying, yeah, Roswell was real. We captured a flying saucer. We captured occupants. This is the truth that he's going to reveal. And we have an ongoing program alongside the aliens, reverse engineering, that technology, and they're living amongst us, basically. This is the truth that's going to be released on July the 8th. What are your thoughts? Thank you. So there's a lot going on at the moment especially on X regarding UFO disclosure on July the 8th 2026. This is the date I've been told by an insider at the Pentagon who has been in touch. They have been vetted and they have told me that President Trump has already written his UFO disclosure speech and is set to declare to the world that we are not alone on July the 8th the anniversary of the Roswell crash press conference so do all UFO roads lead to Roswell was this the start of it all let me let me know your thoughts and let me know if you think President Trump will wait to July the 8th or whether being the maverick he is whether he will jump the gun and just say it it one day at a press conference maybe when he's lagging off the fake news we are not alone uh who knows i really appreciate your support and all your comments about ufos and the truth it's been a personal quest for me and i really hope that july the 8th will bring answers to us all thank you i really hope so too mark he's such a nice guy what a nice guy and he reads well too But here's my problem. First of all, everyone needs to keep in mind that presidents and their administrations have banks and banks of potential speeches that may never be given. They keep hot topics briefed, so to speak, and ready to go in the event of a quick need for those things. Could this be one of them? Maybe. You know, I don't know. The second thing that worries me is, you know, I'm like a dog with a bone when one of these things comes out. I start digging backwards. Who are this man's contacts? Who's advising? What can I find that would help me lend some credibility to the claim? I can't find them. I can't find a connector anywhere. Now, do film people have behind the scenes folks? They do, but that doesn't help us here today. So I'm going to put a question mark on July 18 on my calendar. I'm not going to dismiss it completely. I can see with his personality and a bit of a need for attention that he would enjoy being the disclosure president if that were able to happen for him. And I don't envy, I mean, I don't begrudge him that. I don't say that with snark. I say that with, that would be a way to place yourself in history and maybe a cleaner light than where he may find himself in history so i don't know those are my thoughts on it i tried to to dig us out something that we could you know sink our teeth into in terms of um who might be talking to him it's not out there yeah yeah and you know uh this is the problem uh people get told things all the time by quote-unquote insiders it's literally what we've been talking about for the past five six seven eight years at this point all these intelligence people coming out the elizondos the grushes um all these people um they have really interesting things to say um but when it comes to brass tacks like and and look a lot of the things that these individuals have said have come true so like we cannot turn the baby out yeah you can't discredit that um but there's other things too that some of these people have said that just never come to fruition and this is the problem with making a kind of prophetic proclamation as as this as mark uh yeah mark has is giving a specific date it's just like all these prophets who give dates on the end of the world is like it'll come to pass and then there will be an excuse as to why it didn't happen that day You know, and it already sounds like he's kind of saying that when in that second TikTok, he's like, will it happen sooner? Will he be the Maverick and do it sooner or will it happen at all? Who knows? July 8th, I think, is a very interesting date. Like you mentioned, Roswell happened around then. You've got the, you know, the Kenneth Arnold sightings happened just a few weeks before that. So it would be a really interesting time. But then I go back and look at, like, these past interviews with Trump when he has been asked about the UFO topic. And the guy is, like, either he's the best actor in the world and playing it dumb or he is that dumb. And he doesn't even know the difference between Roswell and Area 51. Like, dude, those are two different states where these things happen. So I don't know. I don't know. And that's not because these are Republican. Like, I would say the same thing if it was a Democratic president, too. Like, these people are so temporary that they're not going to tell them the truth about all of this unless it is time to disclose for a very specific reason. Maybe it needs to happen. I wouldn't hold my breath. All work, low pace, as it does happen. I'm sorry. You're fine. You're fine. You are fine. but if it doesn't happen, I'll be surprised. Exactly. Exactly. And a lot of people in the chat are saying, too, like maybe this is going to be a distraction from the release of the Epstein files, which came out. It's already horrible enough. Yeah. Should I bring up what we talked about off air or not? What do you think? How brave are you? Who was that comedian who used to say, how brave an old boy are you? I don't know who, but I'm going to say yes, I am. Roy Mercer. Roy Mercer. Okay. And I'm going to preface this with I don't know this for a fact, and a lot of research and digging must be done on this to validate this, but there have been some rumors and evidence shown that someone in the UFO community was found in the Epstein files. And that was Harvard professor and head of the Galileo Project, Avi Loeb. There are emails in the Epstein files that have to do with Avi Loeb. That could mean a million different things. It could. And we're not going to judge it here today. It just is what it is. Especially, I think everybody needs to hold their breath until, first of all, the full set of files is out on that and that they've been carefully analyzed and all the mess regarding potential redactions and interestingly the lack thereof in some cases has been dealt with. So I think a lot of people can get mentioned in there and it doesn't necessarily mean what we worry it might mean. Exactly yeah that is very important. I I mean, Epstein had his hands in a lot of different financial pots and individuals and influencers and stuff like that. So we do have to keep that in mind until any. It's like you know this better than anyone in a court of law, like you are innocent until proven guilty. That's right. That's right. Not everyone has the same level of knowledge about what was happening there or here in New Mexico at the ranch. You know, there's a big rant and a big investigation going on here about maybe 30 or 40 minutes from me. So there's just a whole lot more context that needs to come out. Yep, yep. We'll leave it at that. You know, I thought it was worth at least bringing up since it literally came up like yesterday. But, yeah, yeah. And again, this all points back to could this disclosure be a distraction from, you know, Trump showing up in the Etsy files, as we all kind of presumed anyways. But it is what it is, a story unfolding before our very eyes. But we'll see July 8th. Keep that in your calendar, guys. July 8th, disclosure is coming. Catastrophic disclosure. My question for you is, what will Mark do if this comes to pass? Is he being used? Is this a prank? It's my biggest concern because, you know, you and I have talked so many times with this group about how, particularly in the last 10 months, we've been in a disinformation campaign. And it is really important to remember that that has not stopped. and that if he does not consider whether he's being used, he needs to pause and consider that as well. So I think the question mark is the best thing to do. Put that question mark on the calendar. We'll see. And let it roll. Let it roll. I love it. I love it. Well, hey, speaking of letting it roll, documentary filmmaker James Fox, we've been talking about this guy for, gosh, three weeks. I know. National Press Club event took place in Washington recently about the Varhina UFO incident. We live streamed the entire National Press Club event here on the channel. You can go back in the archives and watch that or listen to it. It's on the main feed of the podcast as well. And then last week we had an incredible conversation with our good friends over at Fire in the Cosmos where we broke down the entire event. They were there on site, on location, got to interview a bunch of people, and they came on with us and broke it all down. That was such a rich, rewarding conversation with them. But all that to say, Suzanne, it's back in the news again. Leslie Kane, Ralph Blumenthal, you know, the famous authors of the New York Times 2017 article. They're back at it again. They wrote the article on David Grush for the debrief. When that story came out, they broke that story. And now they covered the Varhina UFO incident and the National Press Club event. Leslie Kane was in attendance, and she actually got to be the only journalist in the room for a private meeting with congressional members before the public National Press Club event. So a lot of this article at The Debrief, I did not put a link in the show notes, but if you go to thedebrief.org, it's one of their main stories up there. I already see you. You're on it, Susan. I'm looking for it. Yeah, yeah. Oh, thank you. You're the best. Yeah, she got kind of the insider's look of what happened before the National Press Club event. And there were some interesting things that took place. Here's an image, actually, that was taken at one of those meetings. You got James Fox there with some of the Varginia witnesses, all of them, actually, on the right side there. And then on the left-hand side, you've got congressional members. You got Anna Polina. You've got Eric Berlinson. I'm not sure who the gentleman is on the far end there. I don't know if you have any idea who that is. But, yeah, yeah, this was a meeting that they had before the event or after. I'm not exactly sure. But either way, there were things that were said that were not made public. There were things that were made public. But I'm going to run through a couple of things here that I thought were really interesting from that. Dr. Armando Fortunato has been a forensic pathologist and criminal medical examiner for the civil police in Virginia for three decades. And he told representatives that he performed an autopsy on a young military police officer, Marco Turezzi, who had grabbed one of the beans from the Barhini event during its capture and died a few weeks later from a severe infection after it inadvertently scratched him. He said a legal request has been filed to exhume Turezzi's body with hopes of collecting bacteria or even DNA samples that could undergo further analysis. So I thought that was pretty interesting. We also had, oh yeah, here we go. So this is an interesting image of Fortunato with another gentleman here, Dr. Giannini, who's 89 years old. He's on the far right of your screen here. He's the pathologist, right? Yes. The pathologist, yes, excuse me. And he basically signed a sworn statement saying that the bacteria and whatnot that was found is an extremely high, aggressive, and lethal bacteria. Like, it could be considered human, but at the same time, why was this found? You know, why was this found on the body of this soldier? who apparently came into contact with the alien being. So pretty crazy stuff. You know, we had the – what's that? Oh, I was wondering. I would love for James Fox to fill us in on how the exhumation legal process is going. You know, the fellow who passed away, his family and the government both had to consent to the exhumation process in order to be able to get more medical data, which I hope they're able to do. I don't know. The government may be in the way. I think the family said it was supporting it, but I don't know about the government. But with that and with all the new technology we have now around, you know, pathogens and bacteria, it would be so interesting to see what it really looks like. Yeah, absolutely. The other big thing we talked about with Fire in the Cosmos was this Air Force, former Air Force colonel, I think he was. Yeah, cloth. Decorated former Air Force, had a top secret clearance. He spoke at the event and his big thing was he outlined ways the alleged secret U.S. mission might be documented. And when he says mission, he's referring to the retrieval of the craft and the body, which was rumored to have been picked up by the United States and brought back to the U.S. Now, James Fox is following leads with that when it comes to possible video of the retrieval or of the bodies, photographs of the craft of the plane, the U.S. plane that transported these things. So basically, Fred Klaassen came forward and is saying, look, if that is true, there should be documentation. And he believes that he may have found some of that evidence or where we should be looking. Let me put this for one sec, Ryan, and contact for the listeners, because everyone needs to remember that Mr. Fox sent a FOIA request to the government asking for all the Arhemia stuff. And Ryan and I have asked for a copy of that FOIA and have not yet gotten it. Hopefully we'll get a copy soon. But the government responded with, based on national security concerns, you will not be getting these documents, basically. And yes, not we searched and we can't find anything. We've searched and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Or, you know, no, based on national security concerns, we will not be releasing these documents. And so now it'll be interesting to see what comes from subsequent pressure and FOIA requests, including my own, going on all of the items identified by Colonel Clawson to see whether they're going to tell everybody that. Or is the cat enough out of the bag that they're going to have to back up and do the right thing? Exactly. Now, that response alone says there are documents. Exactly. Otherwise, you just said we don't have them. Right. Yeah. You know, I filed so many FOIA requests, and that's what they do. Yeah. And it will take them months and months and months and months and months and months. Not months, years. It took me a year and like some months to get any documentation on a certain UFO event. And yeah, that's just that's how backlogged they are. And that is how long the process can take, especially if you your request is not as specific as they want. They need you to clarify things more in order to get you the right documents. It is the way things work in the United States. And thank God for that, that we have a request system like that, for sure, even if it, like most U.S. government stuff, takes a very long time. However, I bring that up to say they were quick to respond to James Fox. They were, weren't they? Unusually quick. Yeah. So that also tells me something. I also think you have to keep in context that all of these documents are now outside the 25-year mandatory declassification review time. And they're not delivering. So his request, their response to his request was literally outside the 25-year mark, and he still got no. Well, hey, I know, like you mentioned, you have put in a request. I highly suggest everyone do the same. I am in contact with James Fox. I'll be sharing a video that he sent our listeners exclusively in just a moment here. But yeah, I'm in constant touch with him and I am trying to get the actual response that he got for sure. So I will keep pressing him on that, guys. Let's see if we can pressure James Fox to release that. Or is he going to come out with Moment of Contact 3? I know. I love him. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. But yeah, Klausen was the big thing at this event. For me, I think we need to follow the money. Like you said, you know, if the U.S. had a plane come over and transport these things, there needs to be a paper trail for that. They need to refuel those planes, as Anthony mentioned in Fire in the Cosmos conversation. There's got to be a paper trail for all of these things. So let's start. And the ambassador there in the U.S. ambassador to that area of Brazil had to approve everything. He had to. Nothing can happen there without his knowledge. Exactly. Well, hey, ambassadors, that's a good little transition there. The last thing we'll talk about from this debrief article about Virginia was Eric Berlinson was in attendance at the event. Pretty cool to have him up there shaking hands with the witnesses. Like this is I think people don't understand the symbology of these things. When you have witnesses in Brazil, part of this incredible event, their own country will not take it seriously enough to investigate it. Yeah, they embrace it in Varginia. You know, it has become like their Roswell. But inside the government, like they want nothing to do with it. And I get it. I totally get it in some respects. But here in the United States, people like Eric Berlinson will follow this. Now, this is what's important, Suzanne, I think, personally. The things being said by Colonel Klaassen, follow the paper trail, follow these things. This is what Eric Berlinson is going to do. He's going to try to find that. Now, the gentleman on your screen that Eric Berlinson is talking to is, I want to get his name here right, Brazilian Senator Eduardo Garayal. I'm probably butchering that. But, yeah, he represents the coastal state of Sierra. And he led a Brazilian Senate hearing on UAP back in 2022. He came to Washington for this event. and Burlington talked to him after the event and Leslie King got some on the record things that they said during their conversation and you know if there's videos of these things Eric asked him like are you willing to pursue that in Brazil to try to find these videos and he said I'm going to try I'm going to try they also discussed the need for a joint effort to acquire evidence that could help validate the incident. So now you have a senator in Brazil working with a congressman in the United States to further investigate this case. I don't see how that is not a success when it comes to what James Fox has accomplished here. So yeah, yeah. What do you think? I think it's really important for someone like Eric Burleson to be there, not just for the symbology and bringing the gravitas of the American government to the conversation, which I think is so important to stop the ridicule and the repercussions. But I also think that he serves an even larger purpose because there was a period of time where Kurt McConnell was talking less than positively about the Democrats in the government on this topic and that they were being too science based. I can't remember how he said it, but that Democrats were waiting on more proof than was going to come anytime soon, basically, and that the Republicans were more open-minded about it. And it may be the case. I don't know. But Mr. Burleson was very quick to stand straight up and basically say, hold on a second. Don't forget my friend, Mr. Moskovitz, who's been extremely helpful in this and so and so and so and so and so. So he's not playing that game in this topic. And I think that's really, really important to have someone in his position of authority and representation, making sure that it doesn't devolve into political garbage. And it shouldn't. We need to be apolitical about this topic. Amen. You know, he mentioned, remember, guys, we work for you. Right. You know, you do not and you don't answer to the government. The government answers to you, and they're not answering us when it comes to this case, and neither is the Brazilian government. Something's going on. There was a transfer of some sort, and an event happened, and these witnesses, as you see on your screen, were dramatically affected by that. So being in Washington doing this, like, I can fully, like, understand how validating that must have been. No matter what you think of this case, some people think it's complete bunk, and that's fine. That will always be the case for many. But at the end of the day, to me, these men were dramatically, and women, the witnesses of the being, were dramatically affected by this event. And they took tremendous risk and put out tremendous effort to step forward. And that is always in my mind Something really important to keep In the front of our brains When we're assessing credibility What do they have to lose And what do they have to gain And I don't see a whole lot to gain They're not asking for money They're not selling books They're not appearing on podcasts They're not, not, not But they had literally everything to lose Yep, exactly And that's when you know something Something is real Something is real I mentioned James Fox he you know again the time difference here is crazy so he sent me a video message at like 3 in the morning but he wanted you guys to see what's going on post National Press Club event and whatnot so he sent us an exclusive video for our Somewhere in the Blackstreet viewers for Somewhere in the Skies I forgot the name of my own podcast Somewhere in the Skies podcast listeners So I'm going to go ahead and play that right now for you guys. This is a special message just for you guys from James Fox about what's going on. Post National Press Club event. So let me find that for you. Here we go. Hey, this is James Fox with a quick update. Hold on. There he is. Let's restart that. All right, here we go. Hey, this is James Fox with a quick update. I'm actually in Las Vegas, Nevada. I just flew in from Brazil. I'm doing a podcast, and then I get to finally fly home tomorrow, which I'm just dying to see my son. But we just got back from Brazil. We were primarily there for the 30th anniversary. I was invited by the mayor. And so we got to speak, hang out with a lot of the witnesses. We were also tracking down doctors, knocking on doors, downtown Virginia, getting additional support for Dr. Italo's character and credibility, meeting with family members of deceased witnesses. I don't want to go into specifics right now, but a lot of progress. There's some huge, huge podcasters and news outlets in Brazil that are going to be doing stories on our press conference on the 30th anniversary and Dr. Italo coming out. That's happening in the next few days, 20, 30 million followers. So we're excited about that. Yeah, that's about it. I'll be home in cold Vermont in a day or two, and I'll give you guys more updates then. Hope you guys are well. Thanks so much for all your support. Bye. I think we're going to see a Varhina 3. I think we are. We will. I'm for it. and i think you know again i just i i commend this man for just not giving up um you know this was a case that we must stress that james fox thought was complete bs right when he first got into it and he he refused to put it in his film the phenomenon he's like there's no time i there's not enough evidence like i i can't do it um and now look at where we are it's crazy He followed the evidence and changed his mind. He stayed open minded enough to keep working the puzzle. Yeah exactly Good Lord This dude like I think he tied with me for not being home for the longest amount of time He like I was in Washington I was in Brazil. Now I'm in, where is he? Vegas or Nevada or something. He's a high-energy guy, though. He's cut out for this. Oh, absolutely. I can tell you that from personal experience. The dude is just like an explosion of energy. He never, never rests. Good Lord. I think I tell this story in my book, but, like, we hiked the highlands of Scotland together to look for the Kelvin UFO location. And that guy went up that hill faster than I've ever seen anyone go up a hill before. And I'm, like, huffing and puffing, like, a mile behind him. He beat me up there by, like, two miles. Do you remember that he also was the fellow, I think, who climbed up the back way to Groom Lake out near Area 51? You know, there's one avenue that's remained unrestricted where you can get a view down on the Area 51. Oh, Tikapoo Peak. Yeah, that's it. And he climbed that thing. And, in fact, I had messaged him because I was about to be out there as well. And I said, I need some tips. What would you do differently? Blah, blah, blah. but um he got up there and his response when in his video about it not to me was um oh my god that was hard it must have been really really something and based on that which i saw before he responded to me it's like i don't know that we ought to do this to my husband if he's going i don't know that we need to be climbing up there exactly oh my gosh yeah it reminds me i went um i went up to uh i I forget the mountain name in Arizona, but it's where, like, the Phoenix Lights were said to have disappeared. Oh, is that on my... I think that was that. Camelback. Camelback. Camelback? Yeah. I went there and went to that mountain with Clifford Mahuti, a Pueblo Indian, native of Pueblo. I said that politically incorrect. I apologize. um but yeah he uh and rest his soul um rest in peace we lost him a few years back but i hiked up that mountain with him and the dude had just had like a kidney transplant or something like like weeks before and again he beat me up and down that mountain yeah we've been there and done that too but it's it's not easy crazy stuff yeah things we do yeah all right should we get to our next story. Let's go. Let's go. Good Lord. I know. I don't even know where to begin with this one. Let's get Mr. James Fox off the screen and let's talk about the Bank of England because this story is crazy. I'll read a little bit here. A former senior analyst at the Bank of England, Helen McCaw, has warned that an official confirmation of non-human intelligence could trigger immediate global financial chaos. In a letter to Governor Andrew Bailey, McCaw urged the central bank to prepare contingency plans, arguing that credible UAP disclosure, particularly from the United States, could spark a market collapse, bank runs, and civil unrest. McCaw believes governments can no longer afford to treat the subject as fringe, warning the confirmation of a superior non-human intelligence could induce, quote, ontological shock with severe economic and psychological consequences. Last paragraph here. McCall outlined scenarios ranging from extreme market volatility and a rush into perceived safe assets like gold or government bonds to mass movement into cryptocurrencies if trust in state institutions erodes. while also noting that even gold could lose value if advanced space technology changes resource scarcity. She warned that within hours of an undeniable announcement, despite expecting ridicule, that, oh, I butchered this, sorry. Despite expecting ridicule, she remains focused on briefing policymakers rather than engaging with a UFO subculture, insisting that even a low probability event with such catastrophic potential demands serious preparation. I can agree more. I'm so happy to see this. And I'd love to spend a sec kind of throwing this into some context for everybody. Please do. First of all. Put your full screen. Oh, full screen. Oh, gosh. Sorry. Sorry. So let me talk with you a moment about Ms. McCall. Okay. she was educated at Cambridge and then she went from Cambridge to the Bank of England, which is an extremely conservative financial institution, well known for that. And she moved from that institution into wealth management. So she's got a highly successful career going on. And what caught her eye was that the governments, you know, a few of them around the world, including our own started studying ufos and um taking that seriously but the bigger picture so so point number one is we are watching a gal with lots of brains lots of education um lots of risk to talk about this subject doing the right thing and saying planning for it and why should we be planning for it well let's go back to the first soul foundation meeting that i went to where peter Scafish talked about catastrophic versus controlled disclosure and his position that we ought to allow our government some of these little white lies around this until the world is ready. And the world in the bigger sense, not just Americans, not just the Brits, but the Amazonian tribes, because everybody's going to react differently. And the point is, if we are not careful in how we address this and plan for this, that the societal contract between our governments and their peoples will fail because it will become readily apparent that there is a larger intelligence with greater capability against which we and our governments are powerless. And when that happens, governments fall because they cannot hold up their end of the bargain. They can't protect us from whatever this is if that's needed. So keeping in context kind of what all this is, I am so hopeful that this is one little piece towards a control disclosure, because this is what it ought to look like, in my opinion, where smart people in good positions with lots of risk around what they're doing step forward and do this. Absolutely. You know, and, you know, I hate to be the conspiracy theorist, but could this be with the July 8th announcement? Maybe. I would not disconnect all of these things that are happening, you know. Yeah. Well, look at how volatile the market and stuff becomes when Trump makes certain accusations, certain statements. Things crash, things rise like a especially in the United States. The leader of said country has a dramatic effect on the world market, you know, and or, you know, you look at stuff like when Russia invaded Ukraine. Ukraine. Like that day, the market completely crashed and it destabilizes the world in many different ways. So like, could you imagine if like UFO disclosure happened? And look, Richard Dolan and Bryce Sable talked about this at length in their book After Disclosure about it's not just the ontological shock. It's not just the impact on society in terms of belief and validation and the military, like this will have severe economic ramifications as well. So it's interesting. It is. And I think we also got to keep in mind that President Trump seems to be very responsive to what happens in the market. And so in my mind, it is a reason why he would not do a July 8th disclosure, because it could send markets tumbling permanently if everything isn't in place to counterbalance that. So to me, all the balls are in the air. Yep, yep. He's a businessman before anything. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yeah. Whether or not that's good for a country is whole other thing. I don't like it. That's what it is. That's right. That's the way he runs things. Right. And you can't change that. Yeah. Really fascinating story. World of Saints. And came out of the blue. I know. What's going on here? Well, I'm going to ask you what's going on because, again, I haven't had time to watch this interview. But our good friend, colleague, and all-around nice guy, Gary Knowles, sassy Gary Knowles. He's a little spicy fella. He's a spicy dude. That's for damn sure. he did an interview with Dr. Mayim Bielik who is an actor. Remember she used to be Big Bang Theory. Big Bang Theory. She's Katie Felden in Big Bang Theory. She has a BS in science from UCLA and a PhD in neuroscience. I thought she was the perfect podcaster for this interview. Yeah. Yeah, so she had Nolan on. Yeah. So did you get a chance to watch any of it? I sent you a link because I'm like, hey, can you do this one? I just don't have time. Yeah, exactly. And it's long. It's like an hour and 45 minutes or something. And normally in these things I'll listen at 1.5 times or sometimes even two times just to get it all in and get my sense of it. But this one was too dense because they are literally talking science. And with her science background, she had the absolute capability to go toe to toe with him at times. Science. He is brilliant. I'm just going to tell you, you know, I'm a little scared of him and his temper, but I think he's earned it. I think he's earned it. I think he doesn't suffer fools. And and I learned a lot about why in this. And so I may encourage everybody, give it the time, give it the time. Go watch it. See what you think about how he thinks and how he learns. But I thought he did a great job. He he started. Well, he didn't start here, but but I'm going to just give you the highlights. Otherwise, we'll be here for an hour and 45 minutes. But because there is so much there. But he started and I had never heard this when he was a very young child. He woke up one night and there were little men in his room. And so he said to his mother the next day, and he couldn't move. He had, what's that called, sleep paralysis or something. He could not move. He was very scared. But they eventually just went away and he set it aside. He mentioned it to his mother who said it's just bad dreams not to worry about it. Well, then as an older kid, almost a young adult, not quite, like a teen, he had a big paper route where he lived in Connecticut. And one morning during this paper route, this giant object goes over him silently. Yeah, right at the tree level. He estimated it was 30 to 40 feet wide, absolutely silent. And he didn't know what to do with that either. He said then 20 years later He was in a bookstore And goofing around And he picked up He turns a certain direction And he sees an image Of what sounds to me like a gray alien Like the Whitley Streber Thin face, thin chinned Big eyed alien And he said It shocked him to his core And he actually drops the book In the bookstore And game changer Now the game's on. He was always a science fiction lover, but now the game is on with this. Well, he has, you know, he's a geneticist in his origins, which is really interesting. And then he kind of moved from that to add cell signaling with cancers and autoimmune stuff, all these other things. And then I didn't know this about him either, but he studied Ebola and the Zika viruses. he was actually approached by our government to tell them I thought how he put this was so interesting to tell them what would a lab look like what would it have to have what would have to go on in that lab if you were going to create and release the COVID virus he said I have no opinion on who did it but I can tell you what it would look like he has some suspects but anyway so this is an incredible brain this person is an incredible brain um and of course he's the founder of the soul foundation along with some of his buddies and the way that came out which also comes out in this video was he was teed up with some scientific debunkers on the topic of ufos and uh he said i bet this temper i bet this temper came out. You could just read it in his face when he's talking about it. But he got hold of one naysayer who was a scientist and said, if you were in a real scientific theater with me right now, we would drum you out like dirt, basically. Because you can't just ignore the facts you don't like in order to debunk the ones that you want to. And then he said the same thing to Mick West. Get this Get this guys CBS calls Gary Nolan and says We want you to do a live debate With Nick West on the topic of UFOs And he says Not just no, hell no Not going to happen Because all he is is a skeptic and a debunker And he will not look at evidence he doesn't like And he will not uphold Scientific rigor And I'm not going to do it And it didn't happen I know Not only no No, no, but hell no. It didn't happen. And he kept trying to soften what he was saying about Mick West, but it wasn't very soft. Yeah, those two are always going at it. Those two are going at it. It isn't over yet. But I loved this. Mayim Bialik played a little game of did you say it or did you not say it with him, which was a lot of fun. It was a good format. I was clever thinking about how to get some of that out there. So the first thing she asked him was, are they watching us? Talking about non-human intelligence. And he said, okay, I said it, and here's what I meant. Of course, they take it out of context. He said, I think what we're seeing is likely something similar to a drone. It may not be a drone in the sense that we make drones, mechanical, buzzing, you know, remote control things. I'm sure it's significantly more sophisticated. but why would they walk into a group of angry monkeys like us you know that just doesn't make scientific sense that they would just say okay let's go shake those mad people's hands over there everybody's mad and killing each other all the time so that kind of made sense to me the other one was did you say that we are under threat from them and he kind of smirked and he said do we have something they want or need that they can't get elsewhere everything we have is available elsewhere in the universe probably even the dna elements that our abductees talk about you know we are here made of the same element he said now i'm not willing to say that a bipedal two-armed Upright being is Sort of the genetic code And the norm out there Because DNA evolves wildly Differently in very disparate Environments So I don't think we're under threat And then the thing that we have all Said at some point and if we were Wouldn't we already be gone Wouldn't we already They've had plenty of time to hurt Or maim or eliminate If that's what they wanted to do He suspects, to finish it out, that panspermia is probably the answer to how and why we are here. But we might not recognize our ancestors. Wow. Yeah, so it's well worth a watch. Aliens to our own planet. I've always heard that so fascinating. That's right. Interesting. He talked a little bit about aliens and nukes, and I thought this was interesting because to me it was almost like the banking story. He says, I don't care about why they're turning our nukes on and off or why they're in our airspace over military installations. I want to know how. And I thought that is the ultimate researcher perspective, isn't it? You know, I don't need I'm not going to imply motive because I don't know enough to imply motive. I need to understand the how of it and then I can work another puzzle with that. So, hi, Eric. so true yeah like it's not like motive means nothing it's like we need to we need to figure out the how before the why always always yeah for sure i love that um i know he also kind of debunked the atacama alien in this which is good to put that thing to rest but i thought there's a whole section on the ubatuba and that's interesting because he does all this core sampling and he told a funny story about the first time the CIA showed up in his office. He thought he was being pranked. He's like looking for hidden cameras. He thought, you know, somebody was playing a joke on him. They were not. Interesting. But he does have a little section on energy weapons and Havana syndrome that was initially called interference syndrome. And then there were basically 100 people who had devastating brain injuries and he said 90 of the 100 ended up having what is now known as Havana syndrome these other 10 were inexplicable and these other 10 had interactions with UFOs and 90 did not and so of these 10 these 10 people are exactly how he got on the research trail I'm going to mispronounce this, but the Caudete Putamen, I don't know how to say that word, but that thing in your brain that UFO experiencers, mediums, those types of people have that lights up quite differently. And these people are, keep in mind, these are intelligence officers, basically, these hundred people. So these are, he said, this happens in really bright people who are also really intuitive. And that's what this pool of people was. Now, can I ask, why intelligence people? Because that's what the military was coming into him. It was with this group of military injured people. And 90 out of 100 ended up with Havana sindhol, probably a sound weapon. It could not be lasers. He eliminates lasers. Lasers would burn. There would be evidence of laser. So probably sound, but he did not give a definitive conclusion. But clearly they looked at all that stuff. So the entire pool is military. And then he noted, which I think says a lot, is that we now have a government link for veterans and active military who have these symptoms and it will walk them through how to get for their problem. Yeah, there's a group, UAP Med, I believe. Something like that, yeah. I don't know what it was called, but you can click. It's inside the military system. Okay. Interesting. Okay. Well, yes, I highly suggest people check out the entire. Clearly a lot to digest there, but I'm going to definitely give it a watch and a listen. Cool. That's right, guys. Oh, man, I love it. Well, hey, I'm going to take a quick break, if you don't mind, and then we're going to watch some UFO videos because we got two really cool UFO videos to show you guys that have been released recently. So, yeah, just going to do a quick ad break, and we'll come right back. I know you're on a time limit. How much more time do you got? I think we're good. Let's see. What is it? 3.35 in Santa Fe, New Mexico. Oh, okay. Cool, cool, cool. Awesome. All right, guys. stick with us we'll be right back with our final stories of the night which include a ufo video released by george knapp and jeremy corbell a dorito ufo has been cited over area 51 i've got a special announcement about that video and the person who filmed it um coming up for you guys and we're going to talk about john greenwald at the black vault who has got some interesting responses from the government on both Immaculate Constellation and a, let's just say, an invite only for the press for a special UFO event that you... 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If we reach that, I'll do a special live stream from the streets of Japan for you guys. And, yeah, that'll be a lot of fun. But let's get to our first UFO video. We don't do this often. You know, because this goes out as a podcast, I don't like to do anything that's strictly visual because our listeners lose out sometimes. But these are very specific, and we definitely had to cover them. So again, I'm going to remind you guys our code word for your Apple podcast reviews is Dorito. And that's going to be our next story because there was a Dorito UFO that was filmed over Area 51. A little information here for you guys. Over on the Uncanny Expeditions YouTube channel, a gentleman by the name of Anders Ottesen filmed a strange show. craft over Area 51. And, you know, no claims that it's extraterrestrials or anything like that, but it was extremely interesting. So what we're going to do now is watch a somewhat lengthy, but not too long, segment on News Nation, where they brought in Anders to talk about the video that he filmed, and they also brought in our hero, Michio Kaku, who is there as well. I love him. And also, former MOD UFO desk extraordinaire Nick Pope was there as well, always willing to give his opinions, given the opportunity. Keep in mind, everybody, what you're watching is filmed in infrared, so white is hot and black is cold. Thank you. That's very important, for sure. So let's go ahead and watch that News Nation little segment here, and we'll come back and talk a little bit more about the Dorito UFO on the other side. Sound good? Good. All right. Here we go. Whoops. Wrong video. We love you, James Fox, but we've had nothing for tonight, buddy. Here we go. A burrito-shaped aircraft was spotted flying at night over Area 51. But we have the man who spotted it, Anders Otteson of Uncanny Expeditions, also joining us, theoretical physicist Dr. Michi Mikaku, and former investigator and MPs for the UK Ministry of Defense, Nick Pope. So, Nick, let's start with you. The military in the United Kingdom was ordering agents to get this technology way back in the 90s. What do we know? What do they know then? What do we know now? Well, this came from a declassified Ministry of Defense file, and I was actually one of the people involved in some of this documentation. And we didn't know any of this was extraterrestrial for sure, But we said, just to cover our bases, look, if it is, we could use that technology, because obviously we would want something like that. So, Anders, if the sighting is from a terrestrial aircraft, what are the possibilities? I mean, the universe is a pretty big place. Yeah, I mean, the particular aircraft that I filmed, I firmly believe it to be, you know, an advanced classified military aircraft. You can tell by the fact that it leaves a contrail that it's not necessarily using one of these exotic propulsion methods that you might think of. Now, that said, I do firmly believe it is, you know, something classified, and that could potentially relate to some of these programs involving, you know, reverse engineering and things like that that we hear about. Dr. Kaku, given all the information about this new siting around Area 51, what do you think are some of the credible explanations? Well, I'm a physicist, and we want to be able to categorize this thing as a close encounter of the first type, second type, or third type. A first type encounter is basically when you see something, you don't touch it, you simply see the thing, maneuver. A close encounter of the second type is when you can actually touch it. You can actually see it, maneuver, touch it, and understand where it comes from. Close encounters of the third type is when the alien comes out of the spaceship and you say, where are we? We're at close encounters of the first type right now. We're not touching the thing. We're not interacting with it. We're simply Googling it with our radars and hopefully that we get some debris from it. But right now it's close encounters of the first type. We simply don't know where it came from or what it's doing here. Well, and we're watching it now on our screen. and it looks almost like a B-52 bomber or a Dorito-shaped flying through the sky. So we don't know, but we can watch it. Nick, you suggested one possibility is that this is a secret prototype for an aircraft or some kind of drone. There's lots of different technologies tested at Area 51. Do you have a prediction about where this technology is going? well at any given time you know that there's tech out there you know 10 15 20 years ahead of anything that's publicly declared so yes absolutely this could be some next generation prototype aircraft or drone hopefully it's ours and not an adversary spying on the things that we're developing at area 51 but area 51 you know we know from history is a place where many of the U.S. government's most, you know, remarkable pieces of aviation technology are tested and developed. The U-2, you know, the SR-71 Blackbird, and more recently, stealth. So this could be something exciting, but not necessarily alien, though that would be fine. Andrew, so what we're watching is the video that you shot, and you do this often when you see these things flying through the sky. But does this one have any different features? How is it different from the footage that you've captured in the past? How does it compare? Or does it not? Is it just kind of similar to what you've already seen? Well, yeah, as you said, I spend quite a bit of time out in the desert, not only at Area 51, but also some of these other defense sites out in the desert that are critical to aircraft development. And I'll bring all manner of different kind of camera gear. When I go out, in this case, I'm shooting in the infrared spectrum, so that's why you have the black and white look to the footage. What you're seeing is white hot and black cold, so you can see the aircraft is hot, which would make sense. This is unique in terms of what I've filmed before. I haven't filmed something quite like this. Earlier that night I had been filming a B-2 stealth bomber, and it looked pretty different to what I was seeing here. I actually, in my full YouTube video, I had them side by side, so you can kind of do a comparison. But, yeah, I would say that this is pretty unique, And it actually lines up with some reports that I've received from viewers of equilateral triangle-shaped aircraft flying over the Mojave Desert. So I've been kind of doing a little bit of an investigation trying to verify some of those reports. All right. Thanks for your patience, guys. I know that clip is a little lengthy, but I thought it was cool to see the full, you know, opinions of these individuals for sure. That's not the most flattering image I ended on there. I apologize to them. But, yeah. Yeah, this is interesting. I'm glad that Anders brought up that he had been filming a bomber earlier that night so that this was different. So this is definitely a different craft. And also that this is, you know, different from everything else he's ever uncovered. He has an incredible channel, Uncanny Expeditions. Guys, go check it out right here on YouTube. The dude has traveled all over, filmed things at all different various military installations and whatnot. And he's even recovered, like, materials out there when a UAP crashed out near Area 51. And he did a video on that as well. I'm just going to spoil it now. Anders will be joining us on Somewhere in the Skies next week. So I going to talk all about this all about the other things he captured on video things that he hasn shared publicly before about things that he uncovered out there And we're going to talk about the materials that he got from that crashed UAP, too. So Anders Otteson will be joining us on the show to talk about all of this. So if you guys have any questions, go watch his videos at Uncanny Expeditions on YouTube. And I'll be sure to try to ask those questions during our interview. But Suzanne, what did you think about this story and this video particularly? I think this is fascinating, not because I think it's a UAP, but because I think it's not. And I want to know a couple of things. So where did this come from and where has it been? You know, and why are we seeing it now and why are we seeing it over Area 51? I also think everyone needs to go back and watch that clip one more time because you see the triangle, which is clearly hot as it's moving. The contrail is hot. It's in white. But if you zoom in on the craft itself, there is a black rain very pronounced around the craft. What's that? What's that? In my mind, if the object is hot, it's going to give off heat. And so I would expect almost a white glow. This is, of course, an English major and lawyer talking about this, not a physics person. But in my mind, you know, it's like I don't understand why we have a super cold circle. You can see it there. You can see the super cold circle, the dark black around that. Why? What's happening? I want someone who knows the physics to tell us what that is. Plasma energy, baby. That's what I'm looking for. Yeah. Give you something. Yeah. Also, you guys are killing it with the video. I'm loving this. We have the best chat in the world. We do. They're just incredibly funny. Smart. But, yeah, I'm so happy you said that. Like, it's not, we didn't show this video to show that it's a alien UFO. We're showing it because it possibly is not, and that's just as important. And these are secret crafts that are being tested out there, and people are capturing them, which is also troubling, you know? Maybe it's part of what we were talking about a minute ago. Maybe it's another part of a control disclosure thing where they let little pieces out to start to normalize like this. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So interesting stuff. Look at Gareth. There were some good ones. Cool ranch. I love it. I love it. All right. So let's move to our next UFO video. this one was released recently by george knapp and jeremy corbell over at the weaponized podcast they did a full episode on it so i suggest you guys go over and watch that where they kind of break it down give their thoughts and opinions on the video as well but a little context before we show the video um it was again given to these two why we don't know but it was um and it was officially documented by the Pentagon and cataloged within the intelligence community as, quote, orbs in formation. Official designation of the UAP was made by the U.S. intelligence community and the Department of Defense. I will not be calling it the Department of War. Sorry to all of you out there. That is stupid and ridiculous, and I'm not calling it that. We draw our line. We draw our line on Twitter and Department of War. Yeah, exactly. It's Twitter and it's Department of Defense. It's not X. It is not Department of War. Let's see. So the date of the video is August 23rd of 2012. The location is the Persian Gulf. This was captured on thermographic forward-looking infrared or flare by an MQ-9 Reaper drone. and a little description before I show the video. It was filmed on a platform operating under the direction of the U.S. Air Force. The objects were observed and actively tracked. The UAP appeared to demonstrate abrupt directional changes in intelligent control. Okay, so let's see if that holds true when we watch the video. I'm going to go ahead and play this for you now. If you're listening to this in the future on the podcast, you're just going to hear silence because I don't think there's any, yeah, there's no audio for it. But go ahead and give this a watch, guys. I'm interested to hear what the chat has to say and, Suzanne, what you think of this as well, because it could be orbs. Let's go ahead and watch the video here. All right, here we go. Of course I messed it up again. There it is. Let's start from the beginning. There it is. Triangular formation of orbs But in my mind clearly separate objects Yes, because they're moving Distant between each other It's not perfect symmetry There's some wobble Yeah, it's making like abrupt direction changes too Unless that's the camera They seem to be holding that camera still though I guess it could be both, right? Yeah But yeah, those are definitely three separate objects You can tell right there Like they're not but clearly aware of each other and synchronized with each other to a small extent I guess maybe not small but interesting isn't that amazing yeah okay so there's the video guys what do you think what do you think in the chat now um No contrails, no funny stuff like that. Yep. Absence of traditional propulsion or thermal signatures, as stated here. And origin, intent, and capabilities remain unknown. Again, this is according to Jeremy Corbeau and George Knapp. So whoever sent them this video, this official military video, those were the determinations. It's still an unknown, as it were. Now, I have seen people debunk it already. People like Mick West, people like Stephen Greenstreet, you know, kind of the regulars that come out and give the other side of it, which is important. Like, you know, we might not like how they go about it or whatnot, ignoring certain things, but they think it's a flock of birds. What else is new? I don't think it's a flock of birds. yeah yeah um i i took a photo of a ufo when i was in nova scotia and it turned out to be a bird and who was the first to tell me that mick west and he was right he was 100 correct well i want you to go back to the dairy nolan interview with my am yalex exactly because he mentions that not you by name but he mentions the pid the seagull or whatever and there are means of debunking if he followed the evidence you know yeah exactly um so yeah again like if you want uh any further information on this guys go to the weaponized podcast um for george knapp and jeremy corbell break down this a little bit more but um what do you think what is your gut telling you about this suzanne in terms of the orb phenomenon we don't hear this often when it comes to the ufo videos coming out from the military. Usually it looks more like a nuts and bolts craft of some sort, but we're talking orbs now. We're talking orbs, and I'm having my own little dance out here in Santa Fe with a particular orange orb, my neighbor and I are, and my prior experience out here was with a group of five or six orbs, and they move just like this. So right now I'm in the orb camp. I don't see anything conventional about this. I don't think it's birds. I don't think it's conventional craft. I don't see contrails or flight patterns that make sense to me. So I'm in the orb camp. Okay. Yeah. You know, I do find this one pretty fascinating, to be honest. The abrupt movements. Right. Um, the fact that, like, they were out of formation at some points, but then always seem to come back to this, this triangular formation, um, does definitely pique my interest. And I've, you know, I've come into many contact with many witnesses who have seen the orbs and explained these kind of choreographed dances that they do, almost like they are intelligent. And that seems to be whatever these objects are doing. Could they be birds? Possibly Could they be balloons? Possibly But at the end of the day The Department of Defense Is saying it's still Unknown And if they don't know Don't lose sight of all the data that they're getting on the screen We don't have a good shot of it right here But for you guys to see The orbs We needed to make it bigger But if you go back to your They're going to know altitude and all of those kinds of things and estimates on speed. So you have to assume things like birds have been eliminated or they would love to tell us that they are birds, you know. Good point. I think even Corbell stresses in their episode that they are, like, almost certain this is not birds, they're balloons. Yeah. So that's interesting, too. But again, we are in the low information zone. We have time, we have location, we have date. That's important. It is for sure. But, you know, just like any UFO video, whether you believe it's extraterrestrial or it's birds, there is that constant purgatory that we're in that we don't have enough information to properly make a assessment of what the object is. Mick West and, you know, what's the gentleman's name? Vander Kemp? I don't know. Those two are always going at it, unlike Twitter, about certain UFO videos. But at the end of the day, they always come back to the same, you know, conclusion. We don't have enough information to make a determination. And I'm sure that is by design. Yeah, exactly. Mothra, damn it. That's what it is. Good shout out, buddy. I have seen, oh, I went to a pop-up store in Tokyo yesterday, and it was all Mothra. Oh, was it? The Godzilla Kaiju. Oh, my God. My only son is thrilled. Yeah, I know. I've got a lot of Godzilla fans, so I have a lot of gifts I need to buy before I leave. But, yeah. But, yeah, interesting video nonetheless. They give some good stuff, you know, and I'm sure they are vetting behind the scenes. are not just letting anything out under their own names. So I think we have to take that into account, too. Absolutely. Absolutely. Okay, let's move to our final story of the night. We're almost at the two-hour mark, so I will try to breeze through this one. John Greenwald over at the Black Vault has been a busy guy lately, getting a bunch of responses. And he put out a request, as he always does, for any information, emails, any data that the government has on Immaculate Constellation. So we're returning to the Matthew Roberts story with Immaculate Constellation. And the response that he got was interesting. So I'm going to read a little bit here. And I think I have, let me pull this up here. There it is. A recent FOIA response from the Department of Defense has sparked concern after officials declined to conduct any record search tied to allegations surrounding Immaculate Constellation. Denied to conduct any. Interesting. I have some thoughts on that too. Okay. The request filed by the Black Vault under case number. That doesn't matter. So that email sent to or from Derek J. O'Malley, specifically requesting both classified and unclassified communications containing the phrase Immaculate Constellation. In a final response dated January 26th of 2026, the department stated no search would be conducted because the alleged special access program, quote, does not exist. Asserting that an email search would therefore yield no responsive records. That justification is unusual in FOIA practice, John Greenwald stresses, where agencies are typically required to search for records matching the wording of a request, regardless of whether the subject matter is later deemed false or unsubstantiated. The controversy is heightened by the fact that Immaculate Constellation has already appeared in official and public discourse, including a document submitted by Nancy Mace during a November 2024 UAP hearing testimony from journalists and a one-page release from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence explicitly denying the program's existence. while documenting internal awareness of the allegation. That was a mouthful. So, yeah, this is interesting that, again, we talked about this earlier with James Fox as well. Like, they're not even, they're saying no, we're not even looking. I'm going to go look. Yeah, and the system doesn't work like this, people. This is not the same thing as saying there are no documents. So I hope that there was a quick appeal by Greenwald and that that appeal doesn't slap him in the butt on the way to get the documents. Because if you want to say there are no such documents, that's one thing legally. If you want to say we're not even going to go look, we're just going to tell you no, that's another. Yeah. Like what is that? That's BS. The legal BS is what that is. I was kind of At the point where I was ready to put the Immaculate Constellation thing To rest To be completely honest It wasn't really leading anywhere No Official Documentation has come forward In terms of that This was Matthew Brown It was his whistleblowing around this topic Matthew Brown Schellenberger The journalist And so He sure took a lot of risk to mention something that just doesn't exist that they're not even going to go look for. Yeah. And again, that's what's piquing my interest again. So I'm back on the Immaculate Constellation train. The silence says it all. The silence says it all. Yeah. And it further erodes the transparency and the overclassification that we are getting with the UAP topic from these requests. John Greenwald used to get so much, and now they're, like, really clamping down. And this is a problem. Like, it is a problem when, you know, the one process we have in the United States to get any information about what the government might know or not know about UFOs, they are now using classification as the excuse for everything or national security. So, like, look, we're just asking, you know, is there anything having to do with Immaculate Constellation? Like, tell us yes or tell us no. Instead, they're saying we're not answering. We're not looking. And it's also weaponized. FOIA is now weaponized. You know, you'll remember a few weeks ago when Mr. Grush was on a big podcast and the same day and within like six months of when a FOIA request was issued, they released documents. It was Megyn Kelly's podcast. They released documents negative to Grush, oddly timely, with regard to this big interview with Megyn Kelly. So I think we're watching a weaponization of the FOIA process. We'll see. We'll see. Interesting. I don't know. Maybe I'll reach out to Ms. Greenwald and ask. You should. Yeah. Like, if anyone would know how to deal with this, it's him. He appeals all the time. And he has been successful. Yeah. Like appeals can go a very, very long way. It really depends on the person dealing with your request, what mood they're in. It's like the DMV when you go to get your license. It really depends on the person. You know, I got this miserable person for my first driver's test and it was the middle of summer and my air conditioning didn't work in the vehicle I was using and they failed me. Um, granted, I, I didn't use a blinker when I should have at one point. Um, but, or signal for those who call it that. Um, but, uh, yeah, like that had a lot to do with it. And then I pass, you know, next week when I tried it again or whatever. Um, it depends. Yeah, it just depends. That's right. And also depends on the demeanor of the person making requests. Some people get told no and take no. And some people get told no and say, step up, you know, move along. It's just like anything. Yeah, you can't in your quest be like, give me all the information on UFOs. You have to. Like, you have to be very classy about it. You have to be very specific. Right. My God, you have to be specific. And if anyone knows how to do that, it's Sean Greenwald. And the fact that this was the response says it all to me. Immaculate Constellation is real, and something's going on there. Me too. Me too. This is the wrong way to get us off that trail. Yeah, exactly. That was our goal. Yeah, you do not do that to a UFO person. We will come back tenfold. Wrong answer. I know I mentioned at the top of the show the political people with bullhorns in Japan here. It's happening right now. You probably can't hear it. Well, I can't hear them, so maybe it's only for you. Okay, good. Yeah, right outside my window. Okay, fair enough, fair enough. Okay, let's move to the next request that John Greenwald had put out, and this is in terms of a meeting that took place with Arrow. And this is interesting. A newly released FOIA record reveals which journalists were privately invited to an embargoed invite-only Pentagon Media Roundtable on UAP held on March 6, 2024, just days before the public release of the, what was it? The 2024 report. Yeah, the historical report on UAP. Arrow's report. Mm-hmm. The document consists of an email invitation sent by Pentagon spokesperson Susan Goff to a select. Na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na. No, I love that. I love how she has her own evil villain theme music. At least in my head it lives there. Looney Tunes, baby. This was an email invitation sent by Susan Goff to a select group of media outlets for an on-record, off-camera briefing with Arrow. The briefing focused on Volume 1 of the congressionally mandated historical review, as we stated. Let's see here. let's see participation required advance agreement to the embargo attendance was limited to one representative per outlet and access was explicitly non-transferable so this you know we are showing on your screen here if you're watching this on youtube some of the individuals who were invited um to this event and they are very specific they work for things like task and purpose the New York Times military defense scoop things like that so it's clear that they have PBS, didn't you find that interesting PBS, I was like what, okay alright but interesting, it stood out to me among all the people that is interesting I didn't catch the PBS one I didn't get it maybe you get a free tote bag to support PBS pledge today Yeah. Yeah. Pledge today, please. But, you know, so these names were made public in the email. Some are redacted. But I what I did is I went on Twitter and I found all of these journalists and I put it to them. I said, yo, what was this meeting? Is there anything you can share? Why were you invited specifically? And and what was this all about? Now, I got a couple comments from the journalists. I think I have them here. Yeah, okay. So one of the people who was invited that was in that email was Dan Lomath. And, you know, I asked, yo, what's up with this? What is this? And he said, I can't speak for someone else's decision making. But in my experience, it's sometimes as simple as they desire to keep the convo as a size that feels manageable to a given briefer. not atypical we say yes or no based on ground rules set happens on many issues or it used to at least there is virtually no engagement under the current regime um we had another journalist respond and said as someone who has been left off these invites before the reasons can be incredibly benign the official didn't know i was interested they were working off an outdated mailing list they had limited space and wanted to get specific folks to reach the right audience that caught my attention, reach the right audience. Because it does feel wildly over-controlled. That's, I think, the issue and why John highlighted this and why we're highlighting this. This is clearly management and control of the UAP narrative at work here for me personally. They are inviting people who they know will toe the line and look at this strictly from a defense national security stance, which is what Arrow is all about. They're not about proving aliens exist, any of these UAP are extraterrestrial or anything like that. But that also has its own problems. If you're having a press conference, a closed meeting, I guess, with the press and kind of telling them what to say and what not to say, that's a big issue. That's an issue. Dan, what does Dan say here? That makes me wonder. Yeah, who's the right audience? Boom. Yeah. That's the control question right there. Mm-hmm. So, yeah, interesting little way to kind of lead us into 2026 in terms of how the UAP topic and the narrative being told to us is being controlled from within the U.S. government. So, luckily, we only have to get to July 8th. Exactly. If Mark Christopher Lee is correct, July 8th, we're done. The live stream's done. Somewhere in the sky is done. Mine and I are going to find a different hobby. Yeah. I'm going to take up, I don't know. Bigfoot's a good idea. Bigfoot's good. I was thinking basket weaving maybe. We'll see. Yeah. Basket weaving with Bigfoot. Yeah. Exactly. Oh, my gosh. Cool. Well, that's going to do it for the UFO News of the Week. Wow. We covered so much. Apologies for the half an hour of Japan talk earlier, guys. But, again, I do want to direct. It was worth it. Thank you. I'm glad it was. I do want to direct people to the 2026 UAP Detection and Tracking Summit one more time here. Go to ryansprague.pursuingnext.com. Get 35% off your tickets with the code SUMMIT35. It's going to be an incredible event. I'll be watching it. Suzanne, are you going to be watching? I'll be watching. I won't be able to be there the whole time. I'll be back in Memphis for that week with a bunch of stuff going on there. Catch up. But I'll be in and out. So I'll be watching for our people. Awesome. To do here as well. 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