"Shivery Delicious" (w/ Nicole Kidman)

This is an I Heart podcast guaranteed human. Look, man. Oh, I see. Oh, look over there. Wow. It's not culture. Yes. Let's call. Ding dong. Let's call. It's just calling and tactile with me right now. Get tactile. Here we are. Bowen Yang. It's a very special episode. Why is that? Because 10 years ago this week, we started this podcast. That's crazy. Feel silly to me. 10 years. Well, I mean, we're not helping with this whole like 2016 nostalgia thing going on right now. Yeah, there is a lot of that. I mean, I was going to ask like, where were you 10 years ago? But now we literally can't say we were in our friends Alex. Ramsey's apartment with the mattress in the window to keep up the sound. That was our that was our sound proofing at the time. And we are now 10 years later sitting here with our guests. Look at that. Look at God. And I got to say, look at God because she's with us in the room. She's here. I don't know that we could have looked a better guest for our 10 year anniversary. A podcast about pop culture. Right. You think that the 10 years going to happen. We probably should get a full blow in pop culture icon in here. Yeah. I did my thing of like, I'm going to watch a project. I'm going to go back and revisit the classics. It's the sort of decision paralysis thing that happens with I think our guests, where I'm sure she's used to this by now where everyone's like, I loved you. And then like they must like sort of short circuit and then like, what did you pick? So I picked, I was very happy with to die for and the others, which I, and then I watched the criterion collection feature. Ret where there's something I want to ask she mentioned something that I want to ask her about, which is that she almost quit because she was like, I can't do this. This is a woman who is awful to her children, not a spoiler alert. But you know what I mean? Well, well, it's the others. If you've seen the others, if you know, you know, I went for something old, something new. Uh huh. I went for final two episodes of big little eyes, perfect. One perfect. And I went for eyes wide shut, which I had never seen. Uh huh. And boy, are there questions as a result of this list of projects, but there are approximately a million roles that our guest has been incredible in. Indulible. Just as an actress as a producer, I mean, fashion icon, et cetera, arguably best performances, the Chanel number five commercial. Oh, which yes, this is a podcast that's going to bring it up. Absolutely. Our 10 year anniversary special and our guest is the one that only Nicole. Kidman. It was so hard to stay quiet through that. You stayed very stoked. You were very good. You see me? Mm hmm. You take direction. I was like, yeah, you told me to shut up. But then when we said Chanel number five commercial, you did, you did jump up. Oh, bads just texted me. Did he literally? So you must have been telepathically picking something up. We're just talking about it. I'm actually talking about because my badsy, my badsy, we love badsy. Wonderful. What's his name for me is dear one. Dear one. Isn't that a lovely name? That is has that been for always. Since the beginning, dear one. Dear one. Yeah. So elegant. Same number of syllables as Nicole. But sure. I had you one as an iso. Dear one. I can say he has a nickname for me because I met him at an event and his nickname for me is I kid you not. You bitch. Oh, you bitch. Because it's how he thinks he's going to book the podcast. He wants to come on the podcast. He's got to have him. Of course we do. We do. We're just nagging him. Dear likes. He's a bell because he he sent me the loveliest email after Ariana Grande and I did this Mulan Rouge sketch and you guy. No, no, but it was kind of the best thing. Best outcome possible was to like be able to like be in conversation with him. Anyway, he's he's with it. I mean, all you want to do is be the center of his universe. So when you drop from that spot, it's very painful. Oh, my God. When you're in his orbit, it's something else. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I have to say I think Mulan Rouge was like, we asked that question a lot. Like what was the culture that made you say culture was for you? And Mulan Rouge came out in 2000. So it was just around the time when we were starting to like be like, I'm going to watch a movie that my parents don't know. I'm going to watch and my mother was see the trailer from Mulan Rouge and she would say, that looks racy. That looks very racy. And I was like, I went into fifth grade. I told my teacher, my mom says Mulan Rouge looks racy. And she was like, well, you know, it might be a little racy. Well, that's sort of about what it's about. But then you watch it. What is about, yeah, as to to a court of sound. Yeah, it looks about a court of sound. A court of sound and consumption. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. The greatest consumption death put on. Tell your lawyer. I think. I always talk about it. I'm just being slice. Okay. Maybe even people on the team are like, like, just the consumption of it all. And then I get carried though in feathers, pink feathers. Come on. Yes. I get to fly on a trapeze in sequence with men underneath me with top hats. Pretty good. Bad ass. Bad ass. And then I get to die and be held by you and McGregor singing to me. And then, but I also get to get carried in pink feathers. Right. I think that's the thing to be. Ooh, that's really lovely. A lot of wearing a fulfillment there. Yeah, it was just so exquisite. And also like the soundtrack that was birthed from a little rouge. I think that that doesn't get enough respect to put on its name because all bangers on that soundtrack. Yeah. Well, he's just a music whiz. Yeah. So I mean, bass is classically built in terms of all his knowledge and the way in which he's been trained. And then he talk about culture and pop culture. Then he's able to enter the zeitgeist though, but he's got all his education and classical training, kind of the best of the best, right? He's a foul. Well, still we want to talk about. I know. I know. That's what you're mostly. That's going to be you. I'm going to tie it back to you because they throw someone at me and I'll answer it. I'm a call kid, man. How about that? Because I feel like you're at me. I'm boring. Yes. Come on. The reason why. I think the reason why you've had this incredibly illustrious career is because random career. It's all so random. But random in the best way. Like I love that we never know where we're going to get from you. It is random. Scarpat, I'm March 11th on prime today. Today. I think it's all a binge. I know you're not meant to binge things, but binge. Yeah. I think it's a binger. I think this is a binger. Yeah. If you like binging love. I like binging. Me too. It comes, you know, it's not healthy, but I love it. Yeah. Yeah. Because it's all the ones. Huh? Yeah, just watch it. Okay. Watch it and watch it and watch it and watch it and watch it and done. Perfect couple. Netflix made that easy. Right. Yeah. Okay. Well, hopefully this makes it easier. Jamie Lee and I. Jamie Lee are Yann Bobbi kind of. Oh, yeah. And he just, he is, um, Crème Della Crème. And then Simon Baker. I'm three years about the kind of, I think you and everyone else. Everyone else. Well, he was famously, he holds a place in gay culture because he was Will's boyfriend on Will and Grace. Yes. Yes. He was like the tough twerky. No, I think he was a firefighter, right? It was he a cop. He was one of those boy jobs. Yeah. Yeah. He's not a shit all. No, right. Uh-oh. Look, some people, some people have it. Rose Bren is very lucky. Oh, she's the best. We were watching clips of her and Kristen Wig going back and forth in an outtake drill in Bride's made to right before you walked in. I was just talking about that. That is my daughter and I. We watch Bride's made when we're feeling down whenever we need a lift. Yeah. We watch it. We recite it. We act it out and we do that in the kitchen. And that is our go to saving. That's how save your film. It's the best. It's the best. It's the best. Yeah. To pull us out of a funk. Of course. Of course. There's an under appreciated. It's a new vocal stem for me, which is a Rose Bren line in that, which is after like the Toast off. Rose Bren goes dessert. Wine is out. Yeah. Yeah. That's such a funny little like dessert. Wine is seasoning. It's dessert. Well, we were blown by like the patronizing way she looks at Kristen Wig whenever she's trying to say like an accomplishment of hers. Just like that. Why? You've poured it open like this. Wow. You're a train wreck. Get the hook. Get the hook. Exactly. Perfect. Oh, but I just, okay. Yeah. I was going to I was going to I was going to pay you the compliment and then I was going to translate it back. No way. Yeah. Yeah. Do you get this? Do people say that you don't do you receive a compliment while I'm trying to. It's not an Australian attribute like we always have to. Yeah. Humility is very important, but also it's just hard to take compliments because the last thing you want is to be seen as beheaded, right? Right. Right. Of course. You have to always come in under. So I'm learning to take the strokes. Yeah. Good. And you are tired. You are tired. You want to. Do me something. Give me a crumb. We do this too much. Some might say is that we've gone too much, which we will keep to a minimum. But I think the reason why because you're talking about bads being so plugged into the culture, I feel like you have that same sense too of just knowing when something is a worthwhile, not even worthwhile, it's just a risk period, right? I feel like this randomness that you're talking about is just risk and you. It's curiosity. It's desire. It's, um, and it's always just being willing to try things and jump off the cliff. That would be the, the, the way in which I approach things. But I'm, I want to have fun. Yeah. I grew up in a family that had a slight bohemian quality to it. So, but it was very intellectual family. So there was, I was taken to see all sorts of theater and opera and art. I was raised on, on culture and, and my mother loved fashion. My grandmother could sew and knit and embroider. So, and they play piano and spoke French and all those things that you go, oh, okay, teach me. But they were socially conscious and sort of just an interesting group of people to have been born into. Yeah. And to be launched into the world by, so things that were fascinating were around you. There weren't boundaries. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Right. In terms of sometimes my mother would have a strict moral code and at other times a billion. Yeah. Um, but there was a huge, there wasn't a lot of judgment. The barriers were taken away and you could express all sorts of thoughts and ideas. In terms of philosophy or secrets or, and some of my greatest moments were called up in my mom's bed sort of us both sharing, um, human, just humanness and ideas. And I nursed her through cancer and so I saw all of that. I saw her losing her hair. I saw a 50 year marriage in the way that unfurled, is it went along with truth and honesty? Um, kind of interesting, right? And she gave me insight into what it was to be, just to be alive. Yeah. And that, and I could ask her anything and my dad as well. Uh-huh. So that's a really good basis to start life from, right? Yeah. 100%. But I'm just getting serious. Sorry to get serious. No, no. Thank you. Thank you. What? This is meant to be funny. No, but literally like sometimes I watch your movies and I think when she got to script for this, like there's no way to really see it. Like Mulan Rouge, for example, like the whole first half hour of Mulan Rouge, it moves so fast and it is so crazy. Like the scene where you're changing under the, under the tent with Jim Broadbent and you're sort of like trying on your different personas and stuff, it's got to be impossible to see. But I guess then for you, that's just like thinking and trusting of the director. Because I feel like that drives you a lot, right? Director. And because he and Catherine Martin, the two of them, they had a beautiful big house that they would create in and that's where we would rehearse. And there was very much about him and quality to the way they, they create their art. And so when you're brought into that, you spend six weeks workshopping. But prior to that, I'd done a photoshoot for Vogue with them and I'd seen their work growing up in Australia and watched them morph into who they were. And they were just like these crazy talented, I mean, Bazz was an actor. And a really good actor. Yeah, I bet. He's, he's in a film called Winter Winter of our Dreams with Judy Davis. He's fantastic in it. He plays a junkie. Oh, wow. Yeah. So there's a tip for you. Yeah. Go find that. I will find that. Winter of our Dreams with Judy Davis, one of the best. Oh my God. Yeah. So yeah. And then CM and Bazz went to NIDA, which is our National Institute of Dramatic Arts. Yes. So I'm getting this bohemian sort of, no, no, no, there's a bohemian element here to the way that you were raised. And I think also I'm just going to pick up on the opera piece. Opera. I think that I'm going to like have those two heelies come together in terms of like it describing like the Nicole Kidman of which is like it's operatic, but it is also so like artfully diverse for lack of a better term, right? Because it's like I think in you talking about the others, it's like you were like this is Medea. This is yeah, this is classic Greek, Euripides, but it's also it's this operatic kind of thing. I think that applies to a lot of your roles. Would you agree? Yeah. I think what opera gives you is it gives you pathos and it gives you big emotion. And because I was taken to the opera all the time and I would sit there with my dad and my mom and we would cry. I mean, my mother would explain because she could speak Italian, she could speak French, so she would explain the stories and the stories that I mean, they're fantastic in the same way that Shakespeare, the Greeks, and I grew up reading Russian literature. I was obsessed with the Russians. Really? Yes. How did you come to be obsessed with that just? Because I had one of those lists of the hundred books you're meant to read. Oh, okay. But I started on Dostoevsky and then I went, oh, hold on. And then I just kept going on Dostoevsky and then I moved over to Tolstoy and then before you know it, I'm obsessed with the Russians. Yeah. And then I went to St. Petersburg actually and saw all of the places that Tolstoy had built Warren Peace around and people pointed out where you know, Prince Andre, all of it. And I was like, what? So that was kind of the beginning of my artistic basis, the Russians. And then I moved over into the Brontes, of course, which give you the yearning. Yes. This certainly does. I'm on a more. I'm on the more isn't it? Have you seen it? Yes. And I loved it. I loved it. And but I've read Wuthering Heights six times. Right. Yeah. And I love teeth cliff. Yeah. So I just, you know, and that state of yearning that the Brontes existed in. Yeah. That probably was my state as a teenager and probably continues on now. It's one of the most, it's the one of the most underrated states of being yearning. I would agree. Because it is so, it's so painful like when you're in it, but then you can only be in it first. Tell me if you think this is true. Like, I'll never yearn like I did when I was like 15 to 25. Like, and you don't realize that you're not going to feel that feeling as intensely anymore. Oh, I feel it. I was, I still, yeah, you still do. Yeah. I'm going to study yearning now. You are. And it can be towards anything or anyone. Okay. It keeps you alive. Caves you moving forward. Okay. I got a year and a half. Come on. Yeah. Yeah. Let's bring back the year. I know. I'm trying to feel like, I guess I was specifically thinking about it in terms of like, like, romantic desire. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Especially being closet. It's like all you do is your hair. Yeah. Yeah. The tingles. I know. Come on. Bring on the tingles. Shivery delicious. I had a line once in this film called Floating where I play a small role, but I just remember the description of being shivery delicious. Shivery delicious. Oh, yeah. That's really good. Shivery delicious is title of F. That's actually the title of this episode. Shivery delicious. It's become and I couldn't think of anything better. Truly. Do you have like a favorite line of dialogue you've said? I have, I mean, I've worked with the greatest writers. You truly have. I think the hours gave me, yeah. When David Hare wrote just, just exquisite dialogue inspired by Virginia Woolf from Michael Cunningham and then directed by Stephen Dulldry. But that screenplay was just beautiful and to be able to do it justice, that monologue in the hours was. At the train station. Oh, yeah. That was like two and we rigorously worked that and I have to call out the prizes of Stephen Dulldry in that because that's so much what acting is. There's two of you in that scene. He loves her. He wants to take her and save her in a way from herself. But she says, no, it's the right of every human being to choose. I get to choose my destiny. I get to choose and I really believe in that. Will you direct? Because you speak like a director. I do. Yeah, because I feel like you're like really working in like the, obviously, this is not my genius actress. But what I'm saying is like you, I think, would be an actor's dream as a director because no one understands it better than you. Well, I've always, I mean, you never say never to anything because whenever I do that, that's a disaster and then you go, oh, okay, well, I changed my mind. Yeah, true how to do. My prerogative. But I love being an actor. Yeah, right. I actually love being in the hands of a great director and a great writer and I love being there to contribute, but to lead it, that's very difficult. That's decision making. That is unfaltering in your vision. Whereas I see all, all ways. So I need, okay, this is what we're doing. Too much of me being too direct. This is where we're going. Probably. You want to be amenable to all kinds of outcomes. I'm interested. Yeah. I'm just interested. That's beautiful. Yeah. And so I hope I always say interested. I love asking questions more than having questions asked. Yeah. Yeah. We interrupt your regular programming for a very special announcement. Saturday nights are made for Mayhem with celebrity sabotage. Watch me, Joe Donne. Me, GK Barry. Me, Sam Thompson. And Judy Lough. It's cool, some values. Do not move a muscle. This is no mad. I got a commercial place. Watch out, this is a funny deck. Celebrity sabotage. Starts Saturday 21st of March on ITV1 and ITVX. So I have a question then. Just because I have to tell you again, just looping back to those things that you remember from from pivotal moments in your life, I think that every, every queer person are engaged. Probably remembers walking into a blockbuster and which was the video rental store where you can spend rent VHS's and walking over to the Batman aisle and seeing Dr. Chase Meridian on the cover of the Batman Forever VHS of Dale Taylor, the Veronica Lake hair. I found out something about myself seeing that picture of you on there. I was like, I need to know everything and I rented it again and again and again and I watched it and that movie I have to say and Batman and Robin. Undarrated Camp Classics Masterpieces. Absolutely. Yeah, Joe Schumacher. Yeah, we created her together, that hair, everything and he was like, here she is, here's Dr. Chase. Yeah. Yeah. And he probably felt the same way we did walking into the blockbuster when you were telling it's my job. The whole thing was I'm not pretty enough. The come on. Don't truly. I really felt when I was doing that that I was not pretty enough. What was the idea? What were you trying to, what were you trying to say? Veronica Lake. Yeah, I guess. That's the thing. That's the thing. Also, just that sort of the dream, the dream blonde, right? And I did not feel like that. I've never felt like that. But that's the beauty of acting is you can pretend, create, become. Right? Yeah. You can put on a wig. You can suddenly put on red lipstick and you can dress differently and put heels on and suddenly you are kind of. You're Dr. Chase. You would love to be. And then it all comes off again and you're back. But it's so great being able to step into that. I mean, the same was so many different characters. Yeah. But a lot of people also cite the Chanel number five commercial. Oh, it's so. So they always say to me. It was. I'll never. When did I win? Into the stream. I must have been the only person in the world who didn't know who she was. I have it. How are you? No, it was on repeat. It's my favorite movie. The Chanel number five commercial was starring you and Roger Egos and Doro directed by Buzz Lerman. It is my favorite film. Come on. And that pink dress. Oh, everything about it. Running down the street. That's fast. That's the streams. And that's CM too. And they can just create that. That's why the pink feathers, the pink dress. I'm a dancer. I love to find out. Oh, okay. It's too much for you. It is the best. And it was. It's like, I am. You look at my every time. But no one had ever done that sort of film. I remember Carl Lagerfeld being like, I love this. He gave the thumbs up to it, which was a huge thing for Carl who was just like, she personified, right? Of course. And it was like, okay, but they spent an enormous amount of money on that. Yeah. You can't have been cheap. They didn't go cheap. But why go cheap when you don't have to and you can create something iconic like that? We remember it. Some clothes. I'm so glad they didn't skimp. No. I love like a big-ass commercial that at the last second you find out was about something that had nothing to do with it. I love it. I love it. It's perfect. It's like you don't like, it's how it should be. Because at that point, it's like you're not being duped into buying something. You're just in the world. You already bought it. You've already bought it because you're in the world of the things. Yeah. But can I ask on the acting, no, on this love of acting, I was watching this feature, this feature on the others for the criteria and collection, which was it entered that a couple of years ago. Okay. It's a huge. Congrats. Of course. But you were saying that you almost said no. No, I said yes and then I said no. But that you also said that this is your usual process. You kind of said that this is something that happens, not a lot, but it's- I try not to do it now because it's incredibly frustrating and irritating for people. But it's for the line producer. For everybody. For everybody. For like what? But forget other people. It's like because I think you were acknowledging it as part of your process, right? Oh, for anything that is kind of maybe scaring you a little bit, like that is part of how you approach it. Like you're saying you don't do it anymore now, but like what was- No, I still do it. Okay, great. I just do it last. You know what, great, great. Great, great. You know what, you're the first step to healing is the awareness. Yes. Perfect. So I'm on the road. You're on the road. Yeah. Can you tell the, like do you understand that now is the thing of like this is just something about going through it? Well that particularly was I was making more on Rouge when I agreed to do it. So I was Satine when I read Grace, which is, you know, the others, the character and the others. So I had not delved psychologically into her because I'd accepted in a different state of being. That being said, I then arrived over there and I'm like, oh my god. I've got to now start prepping this woman who kills her children. Yes. So I don't want to do this. Right, right. I'm like, I don't want to do this. I do not want to kill the children. So then you go back to, is it killing the children or is it saving the children? Yeah. So as soon as I could shift into, oh, I'm saving the children, even though that is so insane and crazy, it was choosing to save them from taking the children. Terrible pain. Then I could motivate into the role. Right. Does that make sense? It makes sense. And was that something you found with Alejandro? Or is that something that you? And with the acting coach I work with and the way in which my whole, just my nervous system and the way in which I approach something, I have to feel it. If I don't feel it, I'm going to be faking it and then I'm no good. So I have to somehow find this weird state of being that keeps it real even though I'm still existing in life with my feet on the ground. But I've got to get your stomach there. Yeah, because it comes from in here. It comes from like, it comes from like, it's all body work. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Emotion in your body. Yeah. So where do you find them? Yeah. Yeah. I guess that's a really good thing to remember too, is if your body is telling your brain something, that probably means more than you know. Well, you know, a lot of times you'll go, especially with trauma and stuff. Where do you feel it in your body? And so it's a really great way to approach a character. Where do you feel them in your body? Yeah, that's interesting. Yeah. Is it here? Is it in the chest? What happens? Is it in the gut? Is it in the groin? Is it in where is it? Yeah. And let's start from there. I sound kind of crazy. No. No, but you don't at all. Like, I feel like that is sort of an answer to my question of like, what would compel you to say yes to certain scripts? For example, something like destroyer or like the paper boy. It's like you'd read these things and be like, huh? But then the, the, the, the, huh of it sort of is a guttural instinct. And so it's not, oh, I don't feel comfortable with that. So I'm going to say no to it. It's, I feel uncomfortable with that. Let me listen to that. And Charlotte, bless saying the paper boy. Yeah. I mean, that was just, she's all like, she's ex. She's wild. All body. She's all like, she's, you know, and I wanted to go and we were shooting down there in, in, um, in Louisiana, in, in the heat. Truly. And it's swampy noir. And that's kind of great to go and do something with Lee Daniels, do swampy noir. And Zach F. Not bad. Dancing in the rain. Yeah. I got it. Yeah. Sitting out in front of the prism with my feet up from the dashboard. And it's just kind of like, yeah. She's, she's a cat. She's wild. And then you get to be wild wild. Wild. Yeah. They always say live a normal life. And then in your imaginary life, you can do whatever you want. Yeah. That's the coolest. That's the coolest thing. Part of your normal. So I'm very normal. Yes. Well, part of your normal life was going to Antarctica. Yeah. There's a not, we connected here. We're connected. I believe we just missed each other. We just missed you. We were on the same. Everyone Nicole and I were on the same vessel, but at different times. Mm-hmm. I went before you. You went before me. And people on the ship, people, the, the, the, first of all, can we just shout out the loveliest crew on the silver sea. Oh my gosh. Right. The loveliest, loveliest people. Yeah. And it just felt like this wonderful, like our boat was, uh, tell me your story. Okay. So I was in Antarctica. Who were you with? And why did you go? Okay. And then, and then would love to, to hear your version of the course, obviously. I just got back yesterday. Yes, yesterday. Yesterday because it was all so present. I woke up this morning still feeling this sway of drake passage. Like my brain is still used to like being rocked by the, by the, by the current. So by the big car. By the big car. Yeah. Um, it's my mom and the smell of penguins and the smell of penguin shit. Eee. That, that's not the most alluring smell. I would bring the majesty of the penguins. The penguins are divine. Gentoo penguins. Gentoo, chinstrap. Oh, we love them. We love just not their die rear. They're, they're excretion. God, you hate it. And what makes you so confident in the diary? Did you get a hiking on die rear island? Could I call it? What a question. I was dying on the island. That was die rear island. Yeah. I was like, I'm going to just stay down here. I don't need to see those chicks. Those penguins. I was calling it die rear island. Nicole, and our whole family. Yeah. Yeah. Cause it was die rear. I saw no ice. Yeah. Just die rear. I was just saying that this stomachs must not have been upset. No, no, they were upset. He didn't bring this up. Well, no, be. No, but this is, this is just a sidebar. Anttica is gorgeous. We don't have to know. We don't have to make this the main bar. This is not. Diaria Island is the topic of the rest of the episode. I never get a die rear island. I already was never going to go to Antarctica. It's I don't think it's for me. This is a small little section where there was a few penguins that had ups its thumbs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But beyond that. Those are the guys. They're multing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's there. There's just in a moment of just like a letting it all go. I said it. I'm hooked on it. I just just just to hear just to be asked by you, how did you go hiking on die rear island and die rear island. I'm dying. Die rear island. But back to the glorious. Back to the glorious. Back to the glorious. Back to the glorious. Back to the glorious. I just see about Antarctica and the sea lions and the kayak. Oh, we said that's the sea lions. We kayak. Oh, yeah. Is that not the greatest thing in the world? It was. I was the silence. The silence. Oh, that's. That's interesting. Yeah, it must be the most spectacular there. Truly untouched. Wow. And the silence is unrivaled. I mean, there is. You hear nothing. Yeah. And the most piece that you, I mean, it truly is. And I'm meditated on the kayak for like five minutes and just went, I think this is the happiest I've ever been. Now is that because of the quiet? I think it's just everything that surrounds you there and that it's timeless. Yeah. And then you're aware of the fragility of everything. Yeah. Wow. Because you're aware of it because you're looking out and it's like this is untouched, un-uncorrupted by man. And you realize how much of our surroundings and how much of our interactions and how much of our psychic being is ruined by man. Yeah. It's like it feels like you're the most in touch with like nature as you ever have been. I felt that exact way in kayaking. The seals were abundant. We saw a glacier sort of crumble before our eyes and people were like, oh, I think that's normal. I think that's normal. It's a sound. It's a thunder sound. It's a thunder sound. It's crazy. Yeah. No, but we had to go to Punta, arenas. Yes. Been there. And we were held for three days. They were about to call it. Because of the weather. Because of the weather. So they had to, we were like, so if they, if they pushed a trip back by three days, they canceled the entire cruise. So we were on day three. It was just, it was like Groundhog's Day and like Punta, arenas is lovely Chile in town. So nice. So nice. Yeah. So warm. So friendly. Great food. Great food. Coffee. Great sea bass. Anyway. And now I'm coming around. And we're coming around. Did you not want to go? I really didn't. It was going to be, I don't think so. You got to go. I've all had to say as you got to go. But you go with people that are very, very like the cruise we went on, surfaces, you have to clean everything. I mean, they are so ecologically minded. You have to be so careful. Yes. Because you can't take any of our viruses or bacteria or anything into that continent. Yes. You can't even, they won't let you kneel like they won't let you crouch down like they don't want everything. Oh, yeah, it's very regimented. Yes. Very, very sterile and clean. Yeah. Yeah. Right? Exactly. Listen to us. Listen to us. No, I mean, we'll just introduce you to that. We'll just introduce you to that. Fran Artica. No, well, it's, it's kind of like, it's a thing. People are going. People are going. Yeah. And it's also, there's still very few people that have been right. Yeah. What is the percentage? I think it's very low. It's like one percent, which is not, which makes it, it gives it a bad rap. It's like, it's not one percenters. It's insurers who go that. Yeah. And you're an adventure. Well, it was his parents dream to go to his mother's dream to go. Oh, you and your parents. Yes. I was my parents. Oh. And it was like a good son. I love that. Good son. No, it was great. Yes. You didn't want to go, but you went. No. You wanted to go. I was genuinely excited. Just said yes. I'm a good son. I'm a good son. It's confidence now, right? Yes. I'm on six. You haven't done seven. I haven't done seven. So I was stolen by when I held up the book. Which continent of you not done? I am dying to go to Africa. Right. And you're still having done. I need Africa in Antarctica. Yes. And in Antarctica was, well, but this is just to say that like we, so then really go, we lost your days, but we're on the ship. This is great. And then I had to fly back in time to do the actor awards. But then they kept pushing the dates out of King because did you fly in or did you cross-strike passage? We flew in. So we can do that. So we can do that. Yeah, we heard about this in Georgia Island. Crazy. Yeah. So they wouldn't clear us to fly for three days. So then we got the other, the flip side of it on the way back, which is we're sailing through passage, which is where the Atlantic and the Pacific meet. The hardest to walk. Oh, that was happens. If you don't, if you can't fly out, you, you do have to cross it. You do have to cross the path. I did not know that. I didn't do my full research. Now, and so when they broke the news to us, the room erupted in equal cheers and groans of agony. Yeah, we were about the same. We had it. We were held for an extra day. Yes. And there was tears of joy and tears of, I've got to get back. I've got a job to do. I'm going to lose my job. We got to get off this boat. So how did you and the daughters, how did you guys react to that being held in that career? I was happy. Okay. Now you're a cruise person, you said on time. And then I was like, but I got to get off. Yeah. There comes a point. I can do one day, maybe two days, but not I've got to get back. So I think you and I are the same. But I'm a cruise person now. Are you really? Yeah. Yeah. Because you said you have two more plans. Oh, yeah. With silver sea? No. Okay. One with silver sea. Great. They're lovely. And one with reds, Colton. Oh, fine. And the amounts in the cruise. I'm trying to move. Yeah, go ahead. I'm ready. What is because there's only two of them. They're like, we want our family. So my sister has six kids. They have partners. They all. So I bring everyone. And then my best friend since I was four, all her children and their partner. It's just we have a big tribe that we travel with. And we're all like with and then Katie, who's here is like my sister. So we have like this huge tribe of people. And there's two women that work with me, who have worked with me for years. And I'm like, you're also like my sister. So it's like, come on. We go. Let's go. Yeah. And I love to bring you people. And I grew up in a family where we travel with big groups. And we would do things in big groups. So it's very comforting to me. Yeah. So if I'm in the position to be able to share and do it, of course, I'm doing it. I will work so hard so I can play hard. Yeah. And also it's like we were talking before the episode started about like why you'd really watch something you've already seen or do something for me. It's often like I want to watch other people experience this thing. You know what I mean? Like sometimes I don't know what that is. But it's like maybe there's something to it for you and wanting everyone to be together. It's like we're going to have an experience together. And I really do enjoy the, I don't know what that would be called, but that's sort of like transference that happens with someone else is having a moment of awe and wonder. Or whatever the emotion is, you might be able to anticipate it. And go, but that's like that's that's a thing. It's a thing. It's a thing. It's why I love throwing parties and giving gifts. Yeah. I love doing that. Yeah. Yeah, I'm a party girl. Yeah. What did I say? I said once to somebody and my kids were making fun of me. Oh, I love small dinner parties, but I also love a rave. Yeah. And I like does not go together, mom. And I'm like, for me, it does. Yeah. You, how do you feel? Do people still come up to you and bring up basement as sort of a cultural, like touch them now in a post baby girl society? Yeah. Baby girl hit. We thought it was going to be speak to older women primarily. Uh-huh. It hit a younger generation and gay men in a way that I had no idea what happened. Oh, the milk was huge. Milk is back now because of it. I had a glass of milk at dinner the other day. Good. Yeah. Side of my way, no, I literally did. But it was fascinating. Uh-huh. What people related to in that film, we thought it was a very, very, very niche thing. Yeah. And it actually kind of it moved. It had tentacles that spread wide. And then in the same way that big little lies reached sort of a particular group of people baby girl did. Yeah. I love that. Yeah. That you think. Yeah. I love dancing in baby girl down there in that basement. Oh, so good. And we started and I came out of that with COVID and the flu. What? A double whammy. That's where it goes down. That's where it went down. Yeah. And how did it come back that you just ran all the tests? I got so sick and they and I knew going in. I was like, oh, yeah. Oh, I'm going down here. I can just feel it. It's the middle of winter and it's running rampant right now. So oh well, baby girl, baby girl, go down. Baby girl dropped. Baby girl dropped down. She heard on all fours. She fell on all fours. Yeah. Not even on all fours. Flat on my back. There we go. Okay. We're getting. No, now we're cooking. No, now we're cooking. Okay. Okay. dreams were based on it. I would look at like the clothes and fashion and my mom would say, look at that and look how it's made. So for Mordre Hepburn to Grace Kelly to all the different houses, Javonshire, all of them, that's what culturally for me made me dream. Wow, fashion. I grew up loving it. I somehow stumbled into being exposed to it, standing there with Galeano fitting dresses on me and Laga fell fitting dresses on me and being on the cover of Vogue and having access to the most beautiful things to wear on your body. When did that start? Little because I would stand on a table and my grandmother would make all my clothes, but not kind of just have hazard put them together like hours and hours and hours. And she would put little collars on and little fur and a little trim and some ribbons. Everything was, yeah, couture. So I was baby couture. I was like, yeah, and I would stand there for hours because I wanted to wear the clothes. Do you remember the first dress my Bobby in couture clothes? Because my grandmother would make my Bobby clothes. So I had clothes for my Bobby that nobody had. Of course. And then even my Kendall had some clothes. This is before Shalame. So when do you do you remember the first designer or like artist in the fashion world that you worked with directly and you felt like, oh, this is a moment for me in terms of an entry into the fashion world? I mean, the first one was John Galliano. And I was shooting Ice Watch Hut. And so I was able to go over to Paris regularly. And I would stand there for them. And they would try things on me and try different fabrics. And then I would go in and try on the hats. And then I would go to Carl's house. Then it sort of just was, you know, it was just a bridge. And from that point on, I was, and you have really, they don't come to you. You have to go to them and you have to be willing to be a mannequin, like a model and just stand there and and let them, let them design to you. And because I'd been so tall and skinny my whole life, suddenly there was a reason to be tall and skinny. I wanted always to be short and curvy. And so suddenly it was like, oh, I can be tall and skinny and somebody doesn't mind that. And there's a purpose. I mean, yeah. What are you anticipating? They can utilize it. Of course. Of course. Are you anticipating anything in particular with my Gala this year as being part of the host committee? Like, because I feel like it's such a pivotal year for the Gala. Well, I just get to be there with Beyonce. That's all that. That's it. Done. My job. I'm done. Here we go. So, Julie, is it a thing where you guys, do you discuss you get like as being part of the host committee? With Anna. Yeah, we work with Anna and who is iconic. Is it a last year? And a genius. No, she's she's staying on to to to to always chair the Gala. Gala. Okay. Yeah. We need Anna. We do. Yeah. We need Anna. Anna has created so many people's careers. She's a massive supporter of art and fashion and women. I mean, she's she's extraordinary. And so therefore, to be able to and it's this is I think it's the third time I've coach had. I think. Yeah. So but to do it now, I'm so so happy. And my daughter, Sunday will be coming. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's so fun. Uh-huh. That's another thing you get to let do with your daughter. That's incredible. Yeah. And she loves fashion. She's actually just walked the Dior show. Mm hmm. She's just yeah. She's flying back from Paris now. I know. Oh my god. That's the thing. I know. Which I don't need to do with. It's her. Yeah. Yeah. Of course. Yeah. All world and her relationship. And she and Jonathan Anderson. And yeah, it's incredible. I was thinking as you were talking like you mentioned Grace Kelly who you got to portray. You mentioned Audrey Hepburn who obviously in big little wise you guys all get to do the Audrey Hepburn. And I did read. And then his mom who I of course I'll always be in love with my I mean, yes. Um and also, I wanted to ask about Lucille Ball. Oh, because I think that that's one of my favorite performances you've ever done. You really did capture just like her like relentless commitment to get it. Well, I just getting it right. Yeah. And I wonder if that's something that you connected with. That was it like she she's a hard work of the me. She knew what she wanted. She had to be. She came in an era when she had to be such a trial blazer. She had to she was so brilliant. Yeah. That her and comedy is detail. Yep. So as she would say comedy is detail. You can't be generalized. You can't be haphazard. Sometimes you'll stumble on a joke. But if you're really doing comedy and comedy every week that has to deliver time and time again, then that is adduous hard technical skilled work. Yeah. It's not just fly by night. Give it a give it a whirl. Right. You know, and that's what that's what I learned from playing her. She was also an amazing business woman at a time when they were not women at the helm. And she had a very, you know, complicated love relationship. And she loved him. And and she was this, you know, just extraordinary being. So to be able to play her, whether I looked like her or not, I was able to capture her voice at least and her mannerisms. And then it was like I couldn't get rid of her. And she was in me. But it was so fun. And half the stuff that we prepared and everything was not in the film. So really, yeah, yeah. Yeah. That's the staging of the comedy scenes. That's really cool. So I could do every movement, every single movement, like by I studied and studied and with a movement. I like we did so much prep and then a tiny bit of it is in there. But that's that's performance. You have to do an enormous amount of work. And maybe it makes the cut or maybe it doesn't. It can't be attached to it. Kind of complicated theater that was doing sitcom at the time that I guess you have. Yeah, you know, but like gosh, and we're talking about it because I completely agreement and I was it's funny. I was even watching being the Ricardo's when I had Omicron and I had to miss my only SNL, which was that, which was that episode in December 2021. But I was watching you and it did just give me this just just just download me with this notion that like you have to comedy is logistics. It's more do you say earlier comedy is detail? Yeah, it's all in the details. And then where's the law? Where's the law? Okay, there it is. No, so and they were lucky because they have the live studio audience. So they had the feedback. I think I must be so hard trying to do that without that because this is like, okay, great. We know that works. We know that. It's like when you do theater and you go, great, that's working. Oh, you're surprised at what works. And then you go, jeez, I feel that wasn't going to work. And that just landed. I know. We'll just save that. We can lay that now. Now we can add and add and add. There's also nothing more distracting than an artificial laugh track. Like some of some of the multi cams that they do now where you can tell there's an artificial after I don't think we, I mean, we probably didn't need it. No, because it's just you, we know from years of growing up on that. Right. Right. That's watching an AI video. It's like, I know the artifice here. It's just a little off in terms of the volume of the reaction or the timing of the reaction. I mean, but you've never hosted SNL before. Have you? No, back in the 90s, you did. Oh, oh, oh, yeah. I did. Does this motivate you to do it? Did any of that motivate you? Or are you? Yeah, we'd love to do it again. Oh, you sure? It's just a lot of work. Yeah, it is. It's a lot of work. And it's about sort of, gosh, it's because I was going to say it's about relinquishing the control, but also being so just so facetious with it too. I'm happy to relinquish control to people that know what they're doing. So I would be happy to come back and do it and try stuff and just play because really it is playing, right? Yeah. But, um, but it's also when you have two kids and you live in Nashville and you work and you've got a whole other, it's a lot to commit to, but it would, I mean, it's an honor if you're ever asked. Yeah. So yeah, bow down. I would like, I would so love to. I'm sort of ready now because I'm also at a place where I go, yeah, let's do it. Give it a try. Yeah. You fall flat on your face. It's okay. Get back up. You guys get idea, diarrhea island. Yeah. You have no idea where I've been and what it's smell like. Are that smell is a particular smell? Yeah. I'm not reputable in a very, very smell sensitive. Okay. Sure. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Are you going to get to this part of my personality? Have a heightened smell? Yeah. I, well, you did come in and complimented our, yeah. Yeah. I'm either drawn to or drawn away based on a smell. Thank God. You're still here. I'm sorry. You made me laugh and I love you, bow. And I love how you smell. Check this out. This is good. Really good. Bye. Really good. Okay. So I do, we have to ask you this other thing, which is so we've had Reese and Laura here. Yes. Now my girls, the best, best. My girls, the best time with both of them. Reese came in and she didn't impression of you. Oh, yeah. I've heard it. That's wrong. Laura came in and didn't impression of Reese. So we have to know if you have a more adurbed in a way that you definitely do. Yeah. Yeah. Now, let's talk about this. This is happening. Yeah. Right. I know. Yeah. It's the warmest, most responsive. And you go, she gets me. Oh, she's resonating from her spirit. Yeah. Yeah. That is loud. Right. Yeah. It is. Yeah. And then she said her own. Like it's a little bit at the elbows. You know what I mean? She articulates from here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But seeing those two together, watching them improv, oh my god. Oh, they should actually have their own improv show. They are hilarious. We were laughing. Yeah. But you haven't seen them take gather. No. When they throw it back, I mean, they're both brilliant comedians. Yes. Brilliant. And then I just worked with one of the other brilliant comedians of my generation and Sandy Bullock. Oh. I'm going on. Come on. Yeah. Yeah. I have to say those women on it. Of course. Yeah. And Julia. Julia. Of course. The great comedians of the generation. Can we not sleep on your performance and just go with it? Please. Okay. Because there are people I know. And I'm going to shout them out, Jared Frieder, who says that's Nicole's best. Yes. Just go with it. You don't have no idea how many. With Dave Matthews were on dancing on the you were doing everyone. You haven't done it. It's amazing. It's really incredible. Yeah. We're in a whole I was in Hawaii with Adam Sandler and Jen. I mean, this can kind of get better than that. Yeah. And Dave Matthews. We got to get you on the morning show. Yeah. We're going to get you in there with recent. And all my in all my spare time. I do have a question about how you do all of it. Yeah. Do you think your calendar and is it? Are you booked through December at this point? I actually know. You're not? No. I'm not. Is that a purposeful choice for this year? Yeah. I'm I'm on Penazov the summer. Who I'm just like I'm I'm going okay. What's coming my way? I do not know. We have this. I'm not. But I'm I'm I've I've got some holidays planned. There we go. Yeah. I'm all about the vacation. Yes. Right. So so I got a cruise planned. Yes. Where are you going? Can you share? I can't tell. I'll tell you. I'll tell you. I'm going to Thailand for the first time. Oh, lovely. Oh, yeah. I love Thailand. Yeah. Never been. Been all over Thailand. I do feel like for summer. I have a film in Thailand. Oh, yeah. That's right. Twice. I did banco, Kilton when I was really, really young and then I did a film railway man. Oh, yes. Yes. Yes. No, you don't know that. I don't think I know. Yeah. I see. I'm in town. I'm in town. I'm I'm I'm telling you. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. I'm happy you did. I can't you can't watch it all. But no, I'm I'm excited because I do feel like it's this weird random thing that keeps happening where I end up going on a vacation to wherever the last white lotus was. We're just sleeping. Thank you. My quiet. Thank you. My quiet. Where's he going next? What did he say? He's going. It's as you get ahead of it. He's got his friends. It's it's can. Oh, lovely. No, that's the rumor. Fire out. That's going to that's going to throw down. Right. Let's go. This is what the bus is on the street. Well, he said he's in genius. Wow. There was an interview he did the other day where he said the interview deals with some with celebrity and about people who are comfortable being seeking out a love that is more than just with one other person. They need a love of something larger. Right. And about answering that question of why and about how people can feel when they're in a relationship with someone who needs more love than just one person can provide. Really interesting. And I think that like, you know, obviously, there's going to come back to that person is not satiated with themselves. Right. Yeah. Of course. They're not in love with themselves. Right. So what are you feeling? I mean, you're going to face. You're going to have to face the the reality of what this life is at some point. So whether you're going to allow yourself to come to that place or whether you're just going to get felt by it, right? It's it's a choice. So you can do the work to actually try to and it's never done. But you can always be going, okay, what do I do here? How do I what what is the next chapter? Particularly get to a certain stage in life. It's like, okay, where am I at now with who I am and am I okay being alone? Because as soon as you're okay with and when I say being alone, like really being a lot, it's not just being alone for a couple of days in your in your apartment. It's am I okay with being alone? There will be nobody there when I die. Is that going to be okay? Are you no, you know, you can't you don't know. So at some point, you've got to just face the facts. It's what is about you guys. I'm like, geez. No, it's true. I think about the lot. Yeah, three o.m. in the morning when you wake up and you are alone, well, that then is like, okay, this is where I have to be at peace. And being a piece is just about like assigning meaning to if the meaning you're assigning to your life is not like deleterious in some aspect to your vitality. It's like if it's like this thing of like if you were if your love has to involve the love of other people in this way that is a little grotesque or untenable or unsustainable, it's like that is going to eat away at something. You have to find you've just switched gears and find a different reason to like be alive and to give yourself meaning besides this thing that is not healthy for you. You can't give you what you're needing from it. Never will. Never. Never. Oh, Mike White. And just think me. Do you ever watch any reality television because he's fully on survivor right now? You didn't know this. Mike White is a survivor contestant. He came in second. Oh, I'm so happy to tell you this. He came in second on a season of survivor years ago. Post him being a well known Hollywood writer way after you know, school of rock and then and all of that. He went on survivor came in second place in a tough like. Do you have to eat something? I'm sure it's a point. You got to tell you got to live. You got to do the tribal council devotes all that. Yeah. In second place. Second. And now he's on the 50th season where they've brought back all the icons of the show. And I guess some somehow he fit into his schedule going out there for nearly 30 days and competing on survivor. He's on it right now. How's he doing? Well, it's only one week, but so far so good. And his whole narrative in the first episode was he turned off and he had like this ripped body and everyone was like Mike White. Well, I was like, I mean, man, it's got a Hollywood trainer. There you go. But that was the whole his whole narrative on the first episode was, oh my god, he's ripped. That's crazy. I had no idea. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. But you watch everything about reality TV. No, I sometimes watch reality TV. I've watched it with my daughters and I've been like, oh, no, this is too much. Turn it off. I'm not allowed to talk about what they're into or anything. Oh, yeah. I'm too, what I get to call millennial. So, um, join the club where you're in the right place. So, and that is not a compliment. Right. Not for me. We know, right? But you do have reputation like like for watching a lot like Reese does the impression of you being like, we have to get this. But I watch films and I watch. Yeah, I got you. Yeah, I'm like, I'm like, who is this? I'm like, who is this over here in Norway right now? Oh, yeah, I'm like, I love to that. I've grown up doing that. I would go and I would sit in a dark there and I would watch subtitle films since I was little. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Was my access to the world. And I also wanted to raise global children. Right. So, that's why my kids have been to seven continents. That's amazing. As of two weeks ago, we're three weeks ago. Yeah. Yeah. Crazy, right? They hit seven at what ages? She's 15, the youngest. Oh, wow. I'm 17. Beautiful. That's amazing. Yeah. We have to go round. We have to find a new continent. There is the moon. There is the moon. The eighth continent, the moon. It's actually Roll of Culture number 15. The eighth continent. The moon. The eighth continent. The moon. Well, I'm trying to think if they before we do, I don't think so honey. If there's anything else, I need to pick our guest. Oh, no. I don't like pick brain. Yeah, you can pick my brain. Pick my heart. Take your heart. Oh, okay. Wait. You know that you have one of the most iconic Vogue 73 questions. I do. You do. I did not know. I see either. My six-cell pack is. Yeah. Yeah. There's only four now. There's only four. I'm so sorry. We're going to get two new ones. Yeah. Yeah. We got to keep it a six-cell pack is. My six-cell pack is. And then they're like, can you lead the outpackers through the frame? We're like, no, no, that you do not. We were like, come on, come on, come on, Byron. Yeah. Named after Lord Byron. Oh, come on. Come on, Byron. No, Byron was like, no, then we're like, forget it. It just doesn't look good. Byron. We're pulling your yarn. Byron. So it's just like, no, sit on the porch. How many takes was yours? How many takes was yours? Maybe six. Oh, wow. It's a long day. It's a long day, but you kind of play. Yeah. I walked all through my country estate. I love this. It was beautiful. It's different now. Okay. Yeah. I've redesigned it. I really did it. Might need another 73 questions there. Yeah. We have to go back. We'll do it. There's more animals. There you go. There we go. Reason to return. Take care of it. Go to any questions. There's many to go. It's now. Oh, perfect. Oh, to die for you. You just pushed to die for the first time. Two horses. Two horses. You didn't meet the horse. No, we didn't get to see that. Many, many more. No. Because he had never, okay. So he had a blind spot, which was my set out back in a blind tell which is to die for, which was. I've seen to die for. Oh, no, he's seen it now. I love to die for. I love Suzanne Stone. Suzanne Stone, I feel like and stone is killer. Yeah, but I love her for pretty killer. She was a gorgeous killer, but I have to say like there's just something again, maybe it is just. It's Buck Henry and Gus. I can't believe Buck Henry wrote that. Yeah. And Gus. Yeah. Buck Henry for everyone. If you still the graduate, he wrote the graduate. He's one of the great, great writers and then Gus Finns and what can we say? I also shout out to obviously Joaquin, but Ilya and a Douglas. Oh, amazing in that movie. And gets lost in the conversation of great performances from that era. That's a great performance. Well, she already escaped her when you guys shot. She couldn't get she said she could skate. Hey, we're at I love it. Can you ice skate? Absolutely. Absolutely. I can. And then she was on the ice. That's so good. You're so good. She made a look good. Yes. So good in the movie. She in a double. She in a double. But no, but she did. She got there. But you know, that's what you say. Can you write a host? Absolutely. Can you ice skate? Yes, I can. Can you what? Have you lied? I've said, yeah, I can sing and then Baz is like, we're going to need more singing lessons. It's always yes. It's always yes. And then you grow. Because you know who I'm talking to Gina Gershon today because her book, her memory, she's the best. I will. I will. All throughout her memory, she's like, everywhere I've got like showgirls. Can you dance? Yeah. No, it's like. It's like, I will. I will. But then it's going to become the thing where it's like, can you ski? And I'm going to be like, yeah. And you really can't. And then it's a hazard. So say yes within reason, people. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's dangerous when you say, it's like, how much do you want want the role? Exactly. Pretty bad. And they're on to us now. Because then they're like, okay, we'll show us. They've got it. They've hacked us. I know. Directism produces like, hmm. Send me a tape. Show me. Not that anyone has to put you through your piece. I know. Like you've proven you can do everything. Also, like what? I'm on. I'm on. I'm just on a massive learning curve. I'm always like, okay, teach me. Teach me. I'm teachable. That would be a good attribute to say. I'm teachable. Teachable. That's a great thing to be. I think it's my habit is. Maybe time for I don't think so, honey. And I'm not rigid. No, certainly not. I'm not working a good mood. Yes. I always wake up in a good way. What do you attribute that to? I don't know. Born that way. You wake up in a good way. Yeah. I've always working on in a good mood. Does that correlate to how you go to bed? I go to bed. I have trouble sleeping because I have a lot of energy. Yeah. I'll get higher. I'll get higher. Or not after midday, but I did today. That's why I'm kind of jacked up now. Can you tell? I'm usually a lot wider. More sedate. Yeah. I feel a bit jacked up. I had a cold brew today and then two coke zero. So I'm a killing machine. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you sleep tonight. Maybe not, but that'd be because I was so excited about this. So I'm serious. We have been dying. I know. I felt cut technically right when on the boat, they were like, you know, who's just hear from Nicole Kim, and I was like, I'm talking to her next to me. It was, it was crazy. I feel like even though you were caffeine post mid day, it is still talking to you and being with you in person, it is still the thing of like, oh, Nicole Kim has levitated in all her roles essentially. You know what I mean? It's like, you have this like airy lightness to you. You can cut You really have given so much to culture and that's what our podcast is about. And we've now been doing it for 10 years and I would imagine you probably come up like, you know, quite often to say the least. And I just think back to all the errors of like our life as moviegoers and you have a place in all of them. And I just, and in so many different ways, like whether it's like as a mainstream as Batman or as Misha something like birth, you know what I mean? Or you know dogville or dog this is like you are a true, you have a true artist spirit. And you're also this like mega-watt movie star and they just they don't make them like anymore. Like Margot Robbie must be like I love her sister to you. She's my yeah. And I love Emma Stone. I love her. She's so brave. And she's just like, yeah, shave my head. Absolutely. What do you want? You're a ghost. Let's go. Yeah. But then, you know, I've, I've just went and worked with Osgood Perkins. I did a small role in young people, which is this horror film that he's got coming in. And I love him. And I wanted to go and support him. So he's like, I've written this role. It's three days work. And I'm like, yeah, yeah, I'm coming, coming your way. Yeah. So I just love being able to do something like practical magic, which is a big studio film and then go do a fully independent crazy wild thing. Can you give us a bunch of really great young actresses who are, yeah, rising stars. I mean, we're good friends with Megan Fahey. Oh, yeah, yeah. I just love. And she's, she's so good. Yeah. She is amazing. She is on the cusp of being massive. She can do it all. She can do it all. Yeah. I mean, did you drop? She's sort of effortless. No, haven't she? She was in this movie called Drop, which came out last year, which was she plays a single mom, pretty recently single mom, who goes on the first date she's been on since her abuser husband, like, took his own life. Yeah. And tried to kill her. And she's finally got her legs again. And she goes on a blind date with this guy. And she sits down at dinner and she starts getting air dropped messages from someone at her home whose kidnapped her son. And so it's just it's sort of like, like, it's like a, it's like a red eye in me. It's like, I don't even know. Oh, I'm in a watch. Oh, it's good. And Megan is fantastic. Yeah. She holds the frame and she's just so gorgeous. And she's talented. Yeah. I'm going to stretch after this. Yeah. Yeah. But anyways, all that and more. Which we take one minute to tear something up in culture. Time it. We time it. We time it. You'll see how it goes. No, I know. All right. I'm ready to do it. It's not going to be popular with with the rest of the panel here today. But I'm just going to go ahead and do I know where this is going. This is Matt Rogers. I don't think so many. His time starts now. I don't think so. Honey Antarctica. No. Because I face time my girl on the way to Antarctica. And she's supine in a rickety vessel with the, what do you call it? A scop patch. A scop patch. Whatever this is. You have to learn what that is to go in Antarctica. He's got the scop patch. Whatever it is. However, you got dim spell it on his neck. I go, is that helping? He goes, yeah, but I can't see my girl is cross-eyed supine on the Drake's passage. Now I know what the Drake's passage is. The most treacherous one is. The Atlantic meets the Pacific. I don't think so honey. Keep them separate. I see my girl finally gets to Antarctica. Takes a few pictures. Sends me a video. It's the iceberg falling apart. The iceberg takes the video with the iceberg. Yeah. And I say now is that supposed to happen? He says they go yes and no. I go, okay, not great information for me on tonight. I don't think so honey. In Antarctica, you can kind of get there kind of now. You have to wait days. It's like Nicole Kimmins flying it on an ice. What is it called? The path? I don't know so honey. I don't think so honey. And that's one man. It's just manly enough for me. I can get Africa in and that'll be six. No, no, we'll work on you. We'll work on you. That's a bad, that's there. No, we can delete that. We're doing it. We can delete that. This one. Okay, but I will say. Yeah, I had planned to do that once. So I did it. But you guys do make it sound really appealing and adventurous. Oh, good. The quiet. You were really changing my. That's my fault. The patch is transdermal. It steadies your optic nerve so that I couldn't see yikes. Yeah, I didn't do the patch. I just was puking. You were rotted again. Oh, I just did it. I'm a Navy seal. No, I've been told that with pain. Really? Yeah. What made someone say that to you? Because I can no, no, no, just still not even go and get it x-rayed and not check it and walk around and just say it's a pulled muscle. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Holy moly. Now that's not normal for a red head because usually you feel extra pain. That's what they say. Yeah. Is that a way to do that? Yeah, it's something to do. They just say, well, I'm not that. Yeah. I can like, I don't know. I put myself in a trance. Yeah. They go, do you need the anesthesia? No. Huh. So you need to do survivor. It was what you said. I wish I'd know Mike was doing it. I would have done it with him. I don't think it's too late. We might get him back for another season if he said you got to text me. I said, do you want to do this together? Honestly, we would have gone head to head. You would have done head to work. I definitely would have come in second. I think I will come in last though because I give up easily. No, you don't. You can walk around with a broken door. No, but in terms of a competition, that's that. I would just go, I give up. Are you not a competitor? I'm not good to have on a sports team because I was always chosen last for the volleyball team because I just was like, well, is this really important? Do we have to win this? Yeah. I'm not a good doubles tennis partner because I'm like, oh, I can psychological. I need I need some sports psychology. I got it. Yeah. I give a hug. I'm like, do you matter? I'm so sorry. We lost the zero. I'm so sorry. Yeah. But now it's a dinner. Yeah. That's a glass of wine. Yeah. Well, it's just too stressful. Life's too stressful. It's too stressful to care about running the volleyball game. I hate to do that. No other tennis match. Let's just play some recreational tennis. Yeah. It's a ball back in. I said hit the ball. Look how what are you doing? See? Serve it. They did. They they're not going to get what they want. Right. Did your tennis partner? No. No. But I'll play in all where I shot tennis. Go try to look cute. Give the give the vibes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Go on. Yeah. I just said. It's good. Torrent tennis playing. All that. Okay. Are you ready? I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think we go. I think we really fall. This is going down. He's something so many. His time starts now. I don't think so. I want to eat the scam. The long con that is outdoor furniture. What do you mean? I got to tie it down. What do you mean? That a cough of the Victorian child could blow the cushions into another yard. Now I'm doing parkour from one patio to the next just to fetch my damn stained water stained cushions for my 30 seconds. Ratten, Ratan, chair. I got to tie up the umbrella that is also going to be marked by the the dirt minerals of rain. I don't know, man. If you got to tie down anything, it's just blow away like tumbleweed. I don't think it's worth buying and placing in in this in your own space. Outdoor furniture. It's a scam. You're outdoor rugs. They're going to look like shit in six months. Wait for one season to pass by. It'll look bad. And that's one minute. That is true. I have to coastline this. I'm coastlining it too. And you're you want to damn farm, Nicole. And I'm like, you get the beautiful warm stained wood. And they're like, no, the silver ratty thing is actually what it's meant to look like. And you're like, no, no, I wanted it to stay looking like it was in the store. That's what you said it would do. It's just like any furniture you put outside and then it gets old and ratty. It's in faster than the indoor furniture. Yeah. You're right. So just drag the indoor furniture outside when you need it. You might as well. You might as well. It gets incredibly, incredibly quickly, especially in LA where at least for my places, like just I agree. I agree. Anyway, I'm just saying I don't think so honey. Thank you. That part. And you know, I hate thinking about you doing parkour around the building. I'm like a spider man or something. I'm running around going, hey, pal, my my little topiary fell into your whatever. You know what I mean? Like, yeah. And then you've got the outdoor cushions piled up indoors, taking up space, not looking good. Where do we put these? Just shove them in the corner. And you're like, just I get rid of them. They're ugly. I have to have a storage bin for these harps to cover. I don't like grill. I don't think so honey. Tarps. Can I say nothing good happens around the tarp? No, no, no, no. Lay down the tarp. Oh, that was another thing in Antarctica that we had you couldn't put anything to you to put it down on the tarp, you to put your life jacket on the tarp. You to protect it all. To protect it all. It's beautiful. Very obvious. So more of the Antarctica energy around the world. I think so because I will say we went to Tokyo then came back to America couldn't believe how filthy we are by comparison. Like you walk around New York and you compare it to Tokyo. It's like absolutely absurd. You don't even see it because you're so used to it. I know. Yeah. But it's like that. And it's all about the contrast, isn't it? And then you know, to open your eyes. Yeah. Yeah. That's why it's important to travel. I agree. I agree. Now it's time. Mine is going to be good. I think I think you've got it. You've got the idea. I just got the idea. Yeah, you're going to have to crush it. This is Nicole Kidmans. I don't think so, honey. And her time starts now. I don't think so, honey, if you have bad breath. I cannot stand bad breath. I mean, this is a deal breaker for me. Like you could be the most gorgeous, gorgeous guy. And you come at me with bad breath. And I'm like, no, no, no, it's off. Right? It's like if I say breathe on me and I have to recoil yikes, I'm out. I am out. You could not offer me enough money. And so therefore when Alexander Skarsgard ate a falafel sandwich before we did the scenes in big little lies. I'm like, no, no, no, Alex, I'm meant to be kissing you and into you put away the falafel now. Right? Because the bad breath does not turn me on. Alex, as I said, it is very important to smell good. But more importantly, the mouth, the taste of the mouth and the smell of the mouth is very important to me. And that's one minute. I have to say Alexander Skarsgard has been having such a moment with Pilion and you just knocked him out. I'm sure he did not eat a falafel ever again. Yeah, I think you looked him in the eyes and said no more falafel. No more that. No, not before you kiss. Not before you make love. No more falafel. No more falafel. No more falafel. Before you make love. It's a rule of culture number 50. No more falafel. No more falafel. Before you make love. And I just have to say for an actor of York Hallibur to say that falafel could destroy the reality of the scene. Could just render the scene work completely meaningless. Purely on breath. Yeah. You really are an old actor. It's all about the breath. You are an old actor. It's all about the smell. Yeah. Yeah. You want me to lean in. Is that your most high sense? Totally. Yeah. Yeah. Smell. Tits of memory. Which is why when I lost it, I was relieved. After basement. You said unburdened me. I was like, few. Oh, this is great. This is after baby girl. This is after the scene. After COVID, I lost to the smell. Combo. Yeah. And I was in a good way because it was a mutate. It was finally. I was free. You mean peace. Finally. It was like you were in an article. I was free. I was free. So that when it came back, I am obsessed. I can't now. Now knowing. And you want to know who smells the best ever? Oh, of course. I've heard that actually. It's true. Do you think it's that like she just has a scent that like like a fragrance that she has? I don't know. It's something. We don't need to. We don't need to unravel. We don't need to know. Just know it's all true. What does it smell like? It's intoxicating. I'm afraid it is. It's like I will follow you around. And it is like you smell so good. Oh my gosh. I will follow you around. So you're saying it to Pepele Pew. Yeah. Pepele Pew. And I was in the most respectful way. But no, truly she smells divine. I'll tell you also really smell divine. I have my Looney Toons characters on today. Yes. We love Looney Toons. We love Looney Toons. Is this coyote? Yeah. There he is. Now don't you do little quacka? There's tweedy. Oh my gosh. Honestly, I want to. I need to whip this out. Sweet bird. Yeah. Something is happening. Yeah. You're any Thrall right now about Rihanna, Tweety Bird, Smells and General. The legendary ladies of our time. I'm sensory. Okay. So have you ever remembered to eat that? This is a cute mock. It's very cute. So good. So good. Listen. This has the Lafayl's Tweety Bird, Rihanna. Rihanna. We covered it all. Dyer Rihanna. Dyer Rihanna. That's why I didn't like it. You see? Of course. Yeah. The smell. It's all about smell. It's been a shivery, delicious episode. Fabulous. The delicious. The delicious doesn't even begin to cut it. We want to just say thank you so much for coming here. Thanks for everything. Scarpetta is out now. You can you can stream it the hell away like in one bin. That's what Nicole's thing to do. And watch Jamie Lekotis and I got hair at our 50 cups. We come to we we physically fight in it. Oh, I'm so happy. We literally fight and you two are just to fight. But like come to blows. You are to I'm going to say Rihanna. Bunches people. And just to see that it's going to be good. It's worth the price. I hope so. I hope so. And Manga's got me troubles. Yes, I produced that. Yes, yes, yes, on its way. Yes, with L and the darling Michelle. Oh my god. We didn't even talk about the baguettes. Bring me the act. No, no, no, no, bring me the anatomy book. They anatomy book. Okay, the start. No, the best. At my purpose, like we got to go. She's got to be weird. We are we are we are. Scarpetta. Oh, the next episode is all about the bigiled and bringing me back. You got to ask me back anytime. And you got to have more recent eye back. Yes, please don't all right. He's like. We never saw the song. We're both you and come on. You are really you in there. I will love you until my day day. We love that throughty bell to you. Let's get the call out. Okay. 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