Best Rookie Fantasy Landing Spots + Our 2026 Dynasty Superflex Rankings

哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎 Wednesday, April 29th, but you were listening to this on May 1st or 2nd or 3rd or whatever you're listening to this. And yeah, D.K., we're back to, we're named the fantasy football show, totally normal rebrand. We are back. We are back. It's exciting. It's exciting to talk fantasy again. I already can't wait. What is it? It's like May 1st, April 30th, whatever day it is right now. I'm ready to dress right now. Hop in some mock dress right now, Craig. So happy birthday to my mom, who's the show's coming out between her birthday. So happy birthday. So this show, this is, if you've been listening to this for draft season, but you don't play fantasy, the show is different, but it's all, it's completely the same. It's on the same feed. There's nothing confusing about it. Just the title change. That's it. But it's still the three of us still being pretty dumb. We still can't agree on how many syllables are in Jeremy, even though if a lot of Jeremy's think that it's three, but it's fine. The answer is three. Here's the deal. Some actually agree with me. No, Craig, there's some Jerbys who agree with me. There are some insane. Sure. Why are we ignoring the Jerbys who agree with me? And also I kind of added a syllable there. The Jerbys. Why do they get, why do they not get? You're omitting the middle E. This is, this is erasure of the middle E. We'll do this at the end. English language does this constantly, Craig. We'll do this at the end. So we're going to go through and we're going to talk through a bunch of the skill players that went in the draft and their fantasy landing spots. We'll mention redraft as well, but we're also going to hit dynasty. I know that a lot of people play dynasty and want us to talk about it. I also know if you don't play dynasty fantasy football, sometimes it's like kind of annoying because it's like, you don't totally understand it. It's not for you. And it's been, frankly, earnestly, we've never necessarily known the right way to talk about dynasty because if you do play it, you're obsessed with it. But if you don't, it's a little annoying. But frankly, it's kind of just a conduit to like, how will these guys' careers go because you get to have the players forever? Also, you know what? We love dynasty. We're in the middle of dynasty rookie draft right now, and we're just going to talk about it. So yeah, dynasty is like the MCU of fantasy football. It's like one step deeper and it's year round and it's nerdier, but it is really fun. I do think it should be a part, like if you like fantasy football, I think one, you should have DK's in like 38 leagues. I think you should be in two, three, four leagues. And I think one of them should be dynasty and it's really fun. But yes, with that said, Hyphids and I have back to back picks at the top of the first round. So we're like, we're just going to discuss it on the show. And if that's boring to you, I also think this season, this class particularly, it's way more interesting to talk about their long-term situation than short-term because let's be honest, none of these guys are probably going to be incredibly relevant this coming year in redraft. Like sure, like Mendoza might not even play. Tyson's it's probably not going to play. Like Jeremiah Love went to a not a great landing spot. Carnell, Tate and Jordan Tyson are interesting players, but like there are not a lot of Jamar chases. This guy's going to explode onto the scene. It's more like what's the long-term situation? What's the long-term fit for a lot of these guys? So I do think dynasty for this year is a more relevant conversation. And if you're listening and this sounds boring, you don't want to listen, just stick around because we actually got an email update from the guy who's going to have to get kicked in the nuts because he's running back. So if that doesn't let your appetite, then stick around for that. That way we're going to get into the basically dynasty rookie rankings, which again, if you don't know how it goes, basically in dynasty, you do a draft and you draft all the players in the NFL. We're not all the, but everyone has a team. But the difference between that and a regular draft is that you keep all the players for their whole careers and you can do trades and stuff. But if you take like Josh Allen five years ago, like you still have Josh Allen five years later. So the only players you draft every year are the rookies. So when you're trading picks, you're making picks, it's all the rookies. So then each year after the draft at some point between May and the season, you're going to, there's a good dynasty rookie draft. And so we're going to rank the rookies you take them. And this, and we're going to do tiers. These aren't perfect rankings. I think we're going to hash them out during this. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Also, the three of our lives have been absolutely thrown into turmoil this morning because of our dynasty league. The dynasty draft is already absolutely off the rails. There was a blockbuster horrific trade that happened this morning or actually last night that, you know, again, this is an advertisement for playing dynasty. It's the end of April, early May, and we're freaking, I'm like sitting there despondent last night because I saw this trade come through. I didn't know what to think it. I want to talk to you guys about this. Let's do the trade at the end because I'm worried that if we start talking immediately about a dynasty trade that happened in our own league, we're just going to just get a crater. But I do, or unless you're really upset, we can do some fantasy therapy. No, let's go, let's push through this. I feel like we should stop apologizing for talking about dynasty, but let's continue. Yeah, you're right. Do it. Number one pick, Jeremiah Love, The Running Back From Notre Dame. This is pretty easy. It's about as easy as it gets, DK. I feel like he's just on par with Bijan Robinson, Christian McCaffrey, Sequine Barclay. Yeah. Like he's, it's just as easy as it gets for a number one pick, which is why we traded him away. It was stupid. Sorry. That was dumb. Sorry. No, that was wrong of me. I shouldn't say that. Let's just say the trade. Who cares? Fine. Fuck it. I traded the one on one spot, the first pick, and this is draft. Can I actually tell the story? Sure. I was texting with Joe. Don't use last names. I was texting with Joe about a trade. I would argue that I made a better offer, but that's okay because no one can predict the future and it doesn't matter. And so I just, so he, I saw the trade that was accepted and I was like, oh, it like, he explained to me, it's like, okay, so it's Givante Williams, The Running Back From the Cowboys, Harold Fanon, Tiedon on the Browns, and McMillan is Ted Arora McMillan, the Carolina Panthers receiver. And I was like, okay, I guess if Ted Arora McMillan's the centerpiece of this trade, I feel like for, like, you're my love, you could probably maybe get a little better, but I mean, Ted Arora McMillan's kind of like discount Mike Evans and Harold Fanon, maybe if he's really good, it's a Tiedon, you get one and a half points per Tiedon. Like I know these drafted two receivers, but Harold Fanon can be good. Givante Williams, like I get it, but if McMillan's the centerpiece of the trade, then it goes through and it's not Ted Arora McMillan, it's Jalen McMillan, the receiver on the box who had like 450 yards two years ago and then broke his neck at the beginning of last season and has not had 600 yards in his entire career. He traded the first pick and he talked to two people. Craig's heavy size, like what I've just been doing all fucking morning long, I'm just like, God, this is just so, I've never before in my life been in favor of like a league vote to veto a trade. Look, is there a little Nico Harrison, Luca vibes to this? Maybe? Yes, it is. It's our Luca trade. It's the number one pick in a draft with one elite, true elite player and that's it. And then no one even knew it was for sale. Yeah, I will say Hyphids who won two years in a row not getting Jeremiah Love. I'm not upset about that. Oh, so you only have four. Three. It's only been around four years. And I will know there's four years in the league. I've won three of the four. Right. So look, when it's all said and done, I'm not upset that Hyphids didn't get the 101, a generational run. I would have offered a hefty fee of like the freaking guy who got it. I would have given the dignity of giving him his name. It's all he wants. Why don't you make that offer to Joe right now then? Oh, I just said, I want him to hear the dignity of his name getting shot. I didn't want him to get the saddest. Can we bleep it so no one gets to hear his name? Sure. Yeah, I can't bleep that name. I should just offer it. Yeah, see if he takes it. My God. Yeah, no, it's, it's, I look at me on it. Guys, I'm thinking about quitting fantasy. Because of this trade. I don't, I don't know if I have it. I don't know if I have it in me to do this anymore. I can't, I can't do it. Yeah, because with dynasty, it is forever, you know, you can't just reset each year. Like I was looking around last night for this, when this trade came in, I was like, oh, damn, we don't have a veto in this. Sorry, I'm going to say his name. He's one of the, he's one of the fucking commissioners of this league. So he's not stepping in. But he delayed the start, usually start this rookie draft on Monday. He delayed the draft until today so we could make the trade. That is just absolutely what happened. Can the UN step in on this? Can we get like the Hague? I was wondering, I'm like, this is a war crime. I'm like, what day is it? It's like Wednesday. Why aren't we drafting yet? The draft was last week. Hmm. Interesting. Because he was trying to get the first pick. And then it's literally what happened. He delayed the draft. He gets this trade, goes through and immediately starts the draft by fucking taking a video of himself teeing off. I suggested we start the draft. Well, he said yes. No, he was waiting for someone else to suggest it because he didn't want, he literally, you know what? It's, he didn't want to be like, all right, just finish my trade. We need international tribunal. A lot of times. And again, I don't believe in vetoing trades because again, when the Eagles get AJ Brown from the Titans, the Giants don't get to be like, actually, I don't think you got enough. We should veto. Like in real life sports, where more stakes are there, it's like, you don't get to veto it. Having said that, I do actually think real life sports are like this sometimes where for whatever reason, people are like, I have this incredibly valuable asset and I'm not really going to just reach out to people. I'm not going to text people. Do you think, what percentage of it do you think is just like, ah, it sounds like a lot of work? Like 80. Yeah. 80%. I think so too. Reaching out, negotiating with more people, it's stressful. I got to go back and forth with like seven, eight people and what the best thing is and negotiate. That could take days. This is why Howie Rosen's so good at trading. Howie Rosen's just happy to talk to people. It's why Hyphens is so good at trading. Fuck this one up. I made a fair offer. You tried your hardest. All right. This is the part I was, I'm sorry. I'm sorry to out you on this thing. Well, no, what was your offer? Can you say it? No, just say it. I offered, what do I know? I offered two firsts and he asked for Jared Goff and I was like, sure. Two firsts and Jared Goff? Which is, I think that's like a very fair offer. Well, keep in mind that these two, I'm assuming a 20, 27 and 28 first or 28 and 29. I have two firsts this year. Oh. So I was like, two firsts and Jared Goff and I'm like, I think that's better than, I mean, Jaylen McMillan. You offered him like four and 12. And I would have added in the equivalent of Jaylen McMillan, sure. Whatever you think that is, I would have just thrown that in for free. Which is nothing. Literally just as a hand sandwich. Like the bow on the car. It's like, hey, this car is actually for my wife's birthday. I'm like, that costs $1,000, but we'll waive it, sir, for you. Like I would have just like done Jaylen McMillan for no question. I don't know. Let's think about this though. So the fourth, let's say the fourth pick is Jordan Tyson or Cardinal Tate. And then the, you have the last pick because you won. So like 13th pick is like nobody, maybe like Antonio Williams and then Jared Goff. I think the fourth pick is already more valuable than Javante Williams and Harold Fanon. I agree. Period. Probably, yeah. Also, if he had asked for like a second, I would have been like, sure. So it would have been two firsts to the second. Also, to be clear, when I say four, yeah, it's anyway, I also ended the conversation. This is the part that's frustrating. I ended the conversation with Joe and I won't say anything he said, but I just basically ended it with like, I love how seriously we're taking this. I ended it with, hey, like, I understand you're going back forth to other people. Like just before you finalize anything, let me know before you like finally something, because like I'm open to like tweak. I'm open to do whatever. Basically, I was like, I will, if you ask for more, I'll do it. I said that basically. For the first time in this entire process, I'm actually starting to empathize with a little bit here because he's got two fucking vultures and high fits just breathing down his neck. I'd probably be like, I want to hear the most annoying sound in the world. He just panicked. This is yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Bird. Dude, it's so funny. The first person that texted the group chat that made fun of the trade was his name and I hate to say it, but at one point, because the way we do it in this league, it's like you get a wait, no, now I'm forgetting. Yeah. Do you also get a win if you get beat the median score in the league? Yes. The top six scores every week get a win in the top six winners of the week get another win. So you can go two and oh, oh, and two or one and one. So basically, if you're like the second most points in a week, but you lose to the number one and points, you go one and one, which helps you. And if you like a great idea, if you squeak out a win with like you only outscored the person you were playing that week, well, you get one and one instead of going one and oh, it helps. The rules of this league, I think are actually very smart, well done and well put together. It's the best constructed rules wise league I've ever seen. It's almost too rational. It's really rational. Anyway, the guy named one. It's chaos. Well, we got it. It's great. So fucking bad. I'm upset, but DK actually is like, I think just fondant. He's ready to fucking. I was like, I'm fucking Jerry Seinfeld in the theater. Just like, you guys think I'm in the way when that guy like like trade somebody for park place and boardwalk and you're like, you know what, fuck this. He like puts the triple hotel on it. You're like, you know what, I don't need to play this game. Why am I doing this? Stupid. Anyway, so with that said, Jeremiah Love should be the first pick. And it's not close. I have nothing to say. He's incredible and he'll be great. And I think he, I really do think as much as people compare him to Gibbs, I think Christian McCaffrey is a lot like Jeremiah Love. He is a top 10 overall dynasty asset. Yes. And again, in super flex even potentially. Yeah, I think that's possible. Because again, I think the reason people keep saying Jameer Gibbs and Christian McCaffrey with the low end, Reggie Bush is a pro is I think McCaffrey and Gibbs are two players that were like incredible at everything. Slight question if they'll be able to run between the tackles at the goal line long term. And it's funny to think about, but like that was a knock on Christian McCaffrey coming to college is like, will he be in between the tackles runner, Jameer Gibbs. It's like, they got rid of David Montgomery, Detroit. He's going to be that. And then Reggie Bush kind of didn't really become the in between the tackles runner, right? It was kind of like, was it Peter Thomas and then Mark Ingram, like they had other people do that. That's the range. God. The question is with Jeremiah Love, we had this conversation last year with Gentie, who I almost feel like now this guy also has, he has Gentie too. Fuck. I feel like last year we all freaked out about how awesome Gentie was. And now looking back, Jeremiah Love is like a tier above Ashton Gentie when I feel like Gentie was seen as like a total freak and in redraft leagues, we were discussing him in this exact episode last year, like fifth or sixth overall in the first round. And then he went on to have a very mediocre season. He was on a bad Raiders team. He was the RB 13 in total points. He was the RB 17 in points per game. So like the most average middling season you could put together in dynasty. Absolutely. Jeremiah Love is the number one pick and redraft. Is he a first round pick to you, DK? I don't know about that. Yeah. I think that's the worry is maybe it's just recency bias or whatever, but like people will probably pump the brakes a little bit on him. I would say he is much more accomplished in the passing game than Gentie was at least this last season. And I think what people view him as bringing to an offense. And the other thing is, well, I don't know, it's interesting because like last year, the Cardinals offense was actually really useful in fantasy. So you know what I mean? Like relative to what we saw from Las Vegas last year, which was one of the least useful offenses in fantasy, I don't know. I feel like there's a higher floor for love just because he's in this offense and assuming that Jacobi Bersetta is going to be running it, they're going to be running a lot of plays and they have the potential to score more points than I think we would expect if this was the Raiders. And also we just frankly missed on the Raiders last year. They were significantly like orders of magnitude worse than anyone or then we at least thought they would be with Geno Smith. We have to make a note that the next time it like someone does what Pete Carroll does, which is they put multiple sons in charge of the offensive line and the quarterbacks that that's a red flag. That's basically how Pellecek went out swinging and that's how Pete Carroll went out swinging. It's just like I get two or three sons and like they're going to just run everything. I large adult. So the Raiders average 14 points a game last year. Yeah. I think that's the concern with the Cardinals, Craig, is it's paid. And we're going to do at some point, maybe our next episode, but at some point we're going to do an episode two and just like we're doing 2026 rankings soon we'll have our fantasy football rankings updated. And I was thinking about that a lot as I was doing it and we'll talk about this in that episode, but it's similar. I was like, forget where to put Devon H in and I'm not walking in my thoughts on this, but I was kind of looking where he's ranked and he's ranked as like a borderline first rounder. And I'm like, okay, well, something's wrong. Either the Dolphins are going to have the worst record in the NFL or Devon H is the first round pick, but like I am not going to try to get the one scenario where both those things happen. And like, are they going to have a terrible offense or are they not? And I feel that way about Jeremiah Love where it's like, is this offense going to suck or is it going to be okay? Because that is the difference between it being a painful experience watching sometimes. But I mean, love, I think to me he's like a second round pick. I think a high second. It's probably right. Also keep in mind that the first round is loaded. Like we'll have to get into that next episode. But the first round of redraft is like, it's actually crazy how many talented players in the NFL right now. Also, so, you know, Jeremiah Love is now stepping into a role next to Tyler Alger, who was next to Bijan Robinson when he was taken into top five and was the starting running back on the Falcons. And that year, Bijan's first season next to Tyler Alger, 976 rushing yards, four touchdowns rushing, but he caught 58 passes for about 500 yards and another four touchdowns. So he like 1400 yards, eight touchdowns is what he kind of put together next to Tyler Alger. That probably feels close to kind of right with what Jeremiah Love could do this year. I think you're right. I don't forget, DK, you remember how furious people were that Jameer Kibbs wasn't really playing the first month he was in the NFL, like as much as people wanted. Like Bijan Robinson, like, oh, most of these guys, most rookies generally speaking, have a disappointing first month. It's like a Mecca Bukit did the opposite of what everyone else usually does. But like he was like, same with Tyler Warren. Yeah. Yeah. Most of the people are screaming at coaches for not playing rookies a bunch in September and then by October, people forget all about it. So you guys agree, Jeremiah Love is in a tier of his own, right? You're not putting Fernanda Mendoza in tier one. I think probably the only argument could be, could be like, no, you probably won't love. The only argument is that Mendoza is like the only quarterback that's like going to be a starting quarterback and like the complete dirt, like the lack of other quarterbacks. It's like Mendoza then ties Simpsons in a tier and then there's like no one else that you were confident will be a starter for even one season. But like it's probably Jeremiah Love is in his own tier. I think you can make the case that if your team had no quarterbacks and you had whatever, like Jameer Kibbs and Jonathan Taylor, I think you can make and you had no quarterbacks. I think you can make the case that you could take Mendoza if you really needed one. DK, in terms of Mendoza, I mean, in redraft, we're probably not even ranking Mendoza this year because it's like you could just add him, but like it's not like he's has the rushing ability to be a difference maker that you would stash them for like the first three to 12 weeks that he might be benched. Dynasties is the clear number two though, I think, right? Not even a question. I mean, yeah, it just depends on what you have on your team, I think, but I've generally I've seen people taking Cardinal Tate over Mendoza. I just feel like it's like if Mendoza has a coin flip of a chance to be a starter in the league for 15 years, like you got to take it. I agree. I think that's a mistake, like straight up a mistake in Dynasties, the idea that you're like, well, I need a receiver. So I had to take a receiver. I think that's a mistake, I think in any context just because again, in Dynasties, to me, it's the most real life fantasy whatever the most underused thing is scarcity. Can you get a receiver that was drafted in the second or the third round that will play and maybe start this season with your next pick? Yes. Can you get a quarterback that will play this season? No, probably not, unless you're going to bet the Carson Becks there and like he gets like a few games or we get better and Kate Clubnick who went the fifth round at a Clemson like might start a little like the odds are so low that I think to your point about Craig's point, the quarterback's career is so long that like that to me is how you build a good dynasty team is like, well, he might be in league for like 15 years. Do you know how hard it is to find an NFL player who'll be in league for 15 years starting? It's really goddamn hard. I think it's like that stacks year over year. I mean, I think I understand what you guys are saying. I still think like quarterbacks are just the hit rate on quarterbacks is really low and for him to be like a super valuable dynasty pick, he's going to have to throw a lot of touchdowns because he's not a runner and therefore he's going to be, I think like his ceiling is sort of like a mid-range dynasty quarterback unless he turns into Joe Burrow and starts throwing 40 plus touchdowns a year, which certainly like possible, but maybe doesn't feel very likely. That's where I think people preferred Carnal Tate just because it just depends on like how high end like have a ceiling that you're looking for. What if Carnal Tate turns into like a JSN type of player? We need the caveat too also. We're talking about super flex. We're assuming that you're starting two quarterbacks in dynasty. If you're starting one, Mendoza is... Mendoza is like a late first. Yeah, like top 10 or 12. I just think, yeah, I think you're just betting on the fact that Carnal Tate is not a generational talent and Mendoza, it's like even if he's Kirk Cousins, that's still pretty valuable. It's hard to trade quarterbacks in dynasty. They're just less liquid. It's harder to trade them. Hard to trade quarterbacks like to acquire. Try to trade four and trade again, like trade them away. I think they're easy to trade away if it's super flex. I just think there's only 30... If you're starting super flex year in 12 team late, there's 24 spots and there's 32 quarterbacks. It's like a good example of what we're talking about. Todd Gurley on the Rams and Jared Goff on the Rams. They're the same exact age. Todd Gurley has probably contributed to more league winning seasons. Todd Gurley was an individual league winner for three different seasons. Todd Gurley also has been out of the NFL entirely for five years. Did you ever pay me on that bet, by the way? I did. I did. I did. I sent you $200. We had to wait a while. You said when he got cut by the Falcons that Todd Gurley will never play in the NFL again. They said, player sign. You said both. I said, it'll never sign anywhere for you one day. Not counting retirement with the Rams. You said no. I was like, that's what... I bet you 10 to 1 odds. I paid you, but I was like, well, ever. I'm going to wait a few years. I think that's the difference of why you take... Jared Goff's a good example. He's not a mobile quarterback, but next year, this is the 10th season for Goff. They made it. It's like, you're a number one pick. You're always going to get chances. You're never going to be out of the league unless it's an injury if you're a number one pick. I like Fernando Mendoza and the Kubiak offense too. I feel like there is some hidden upside there. If Kubiak is the offensive guru that I think he can be. With that said, that's the easy part. Jeremy, I love first and it's on Tierman. Does the second. This is where we have to get to the third and fourth picks. This is where things really start. First, can we do a fantasy court here that's relevant? Sure. This is from D-Bone. D-Bone. D-Bone. I am in a dynasty super flex league with a mix of friends and coworkers. I have a situation I wanted to run by the justices. My coworker and I were in the office the other day. We were talking about the upcoming rookie draft. We realized we were not sure which picks we had. My coworker was not sure if he was picking third or fourth or fifth or sixth. I realized I was not sure if I was picking second or third or fourth or fifth or sixth. We had such a long discussion. Clouds over here. We eventually realized that we would... My coworker eventually offers to just blindly trade picks site unseen before we looked it up. We'd shake hands and just no matter what happens, we'll swap the picks blindly. And then no matter what the outcome was, we would agree to swap. Our hands hovered over each other and then we shook. It was exhilarating. It was thrilling. It was terrifying all at the same time. However, it does require a trade going through that no matter who wins, we'll basically look insane. It will be the third pick for the fourth pick straight up. Can a blind swap be allowed by the court? I mean, sure. Why not? Okay. Well, I think Craig... Yeah, if it wasn't clear already, this is Craig at Hyphids doing this. Yeah, we did that. We have to accuse ourselves. Yeah, we did that in the office over draft weekend. And I lost. Once again, I think I'm thinking about quitting. So Craig had the third pick. I had the fourth pick and we couldn't agree. And Craig basically decided that the odds of him getting the second pick and getting a shot at Lover Mendoza was so worth it that he was like, fuck it, blind swap. And I, because it wasn't my pick, I won the league, but I have another person's pick and I couldn't remember where they finished, like third or fourth. And we just shook hands. We were like, we'll swap. And like... And I won. So I had the fourth pick and he's the third pick and we are being honest and transparent about it here. But I did have a little bit in my stomach where I'm like, if I was just in the league and I was not involved in this and I see a trade come across the desk that says, Craig swapped the third pick for the fourth pick. I'd be like, ah, that'd probably be a little upset. Like if someone else had done that, like maybe a job, I'd be like, that's kind of dumb. Well, just gave in the first pick. So god damn it. Yeah, this one, I think this is all allow it in the interest of fun, I kind of deal. Because it is, I think it's rather harmless. You guys, you guys were talking about this while we were watching the draft. Like you don't even know who you want to pick at three versus four. Like it's Jordan Tyson versus Cardinal Tate. How do you make that decision? Well, yeah, it's because I basically was like, I like Jordan Tyson more than Cardinal Tate, but I feel like the obligation at three is to take Cardinal Tate. So I was like, oh, I guess if I have fourth now, hyphids just get to decide. Don't have to make a choice. You're an idiot. You have to do all the hard work. I'm like, spin zone. You can be wrong. Now I just get whatever you don't pick. And I was like, fuck. So then I flipped it on him and I was like, I took the high ground. And I was like, I release you. I release you from this oath. Because he sent me an Aragorn meme and said, I hold your oath fulfilled. Go be at peace. Here's what I sent him the image of because now I'm a fucking game. Lord of the Rings guy. Then I sent, is it Boramir? Boramir. Well, look at you. Boramir doing the my captain, my king. So now I'm back at three and I still might switch back. He released me. I didn't make it. You know why I'll say to Craig's to me, I thought you guys were staying to Craig's credit. I knew that he would have done the swap. If I held it to him, that was enough. I didn't. I felt like it's a little unfair to everybody else to do it, but I knew he would have done it if I'd asked, but I figured just him doing it, following up on it would have been enough. So here's what I want to discuss though, because I'm also going to kind of stick. I think I'm just not going to take Tate out of just respect to Hyphids, which I probably wouldn't have anyway. So I don't think I'm going to do that. I think I'm going to, it would be Tyson or, and here's the conversation I want to have, why this is relevant to people who are inside the 12 men in our group chat. Everyone else just to stop right now. This is just for us. Okay. So tier one, Jeremiah Love, tier two, Fernando Mendoza, Carnell Tate. I think Jordan Tyson is in there, correct? And it stops there. Arizona State receiver went to the Saints. Yes. Arizona State receiver went to the Saints. I would say that is tier two. You said Mendoza, Tate and Tyson. Would you agree? Do you think Mackay Lemons in there? Do you think any of them? I think that's just the. I think that's the. Is that because of my Kyle Lemon is a talent D gear? Is that because he's going to Philadelphia and that's weird? Like if Mackay Lemons went to the Rams, he'd be in the conversation, right? Yes. Okay. I think it's like landing spot, like past volume in that offense is going to be questionable fit in that offense with Jalen Hertz is a little bit questionable. We'll see how it all goes. But yeah, here's what I want to discuss. Tyson or Tyson? Well, I want, well, that's the question. Tyson, I think, I think people would think it was ridiculous if I took Tyson at four and there'd be a mutiny. However, all right, three. Well, there wouldn't be a mutiny. People would be exhilarated because they just call me a moron. However, I'm thinking about it because a couple of reasons. One, well, we can get into real like game theory about my specific team, but in general, like, should you just make the same bet that Sean McVeigh made? Like, is that just a smart decision? Just tail his bet. Yeah, you're just betting on Sean McVeigh. You're like, Sean McVeigh would make this guy work because he said. We just talked about how hard it is to get quarterbacks in dynasty. And I know next year you're supposed to be a good class, but my thinking is this, I'm like, the wider seeker class is pretty mediocre. Jordan Tyson and Cardinal Tater solid, but they are not elite, elite, elite prospects. So I'm like, okay, I take Ty Simpson at three. He doesn't play for a year or two. I bought him out again. I have a better pick in the 2027 draft that's loaded. And then maybe Ty Simpson works out. And I have the starting quarterback for the Los Angeles Rams and Sean McVeigh. And I also have to say right now, this is not hypothetical. Craig is on the clock right now. We are doing this draft. He's the third pick. This person who shall not be named to cheer my love first. Sean took Fernando Mediz a second and now Craig has eight hours or no, 24. I don't remember. I might trade out. That's what's going on. This is what I would suggest is you try and trade out a couple of spots. I have a different suggestion. I think. Do you think it's insane? I'm like, look, if I can't trade out, is it really worth being like betting on Carnell Tate at three? Or should I just try to get the Rams next order back in the next 10 years? There's what I would tell a specific person, like a general advice. And then there's what I tell you. I think my general advice is that, no, I'm serious. Carnell Tate is, I think, considered. And I don't even know if this is necessarily accurate, but I think Carnell Tate's considered to be higher floor, lower ceiling. Carnell Tate, again, everyone seems to be like, he's probably like the best number two receiver in the league at his best. I keep calling him Teeny Higgins for a reason. But like he also, the floor is like Corey Davis and other top five receiver for the Titans, but it's really like he has elite hands. He does not have elite speed. He does not have elite athleticism. He seems to have elite technical proficiency. Let's just say he ends up being like Terry Maclaurin. He has Terry Maclaurin's career. And yeah, it's like, there's something to be said about that of like, okay, well, if you have not elite size or speed, you have elite technical proficiency, then it's kind of like you're maxing out to degree. Jordan Tyson's the opposite in that he's high floor, low ceiling, low, sorry, high ceiling, low floor, in that the floor is he had, he literally never played a season of college football healthy really. He's not the physicality catch point, but he has NBA athleticism. His brother's a first round pick in the NBA, which apparently has never happened before, but I looked it up and I think that's fake. The Saints are saying there's never been a brother combo drafted in two pro sports. I think that's crazy. What? You mean in the first round? The Saints had on their official site that a first round pick has two brothers that never picked in the first round of sports, which shocked me because I'm like, well, Kyler Murray is one person and he was taken in the first round of multiple sports. So I did three minutes of research and Miles Garrett has a half brother who's an NBA pick in the first round, but that took me three minutes. So I feel like it's happened before. Anyway, not the point. Jordan Tyson is like, if I said in three years, one of these guys is like a the seventh best receiver in the entire league. I think most people would say that would probably be Jordan Tyson, right? Yeah. So I would say, oh, it's like, it's what do you want? It's like, are you more scared of missing the pick or are you more scared of like just the guy doesn't contribute for you? Take carnal tate. If you're more scared about missing the best player in the draft, take Jordan Tyson. That's what I would tell you a general person. What I would tell you, Craig, is you have thought carnal tates overrated and Jordan Tyson's underrated from the first conversation we ever had about the draft class in January. And you kind of still felt that when we talked on Saturday. And I think for you, if you take carnal tate because you should, and then Jordan Tyson's awesome and I get him, you're going to fucking lose your goddamn mind. And that's kind of a good tiebreaker. Do you think, sorry, I just choked on my own spit like my mom. Do you think that Ty Simpson at five after this tier is now in a reasonable territory, DK? I mean, I think that's too high still personally, but I'm a hater. Like you're at the point where you're like, yeah, I'm a Kai Lemon, Casey Concepcion, Judarian Price, Denzel Boston, like those are all better picks than Ty Simpson. Yeah. Can I ask you a question? What would you think? Can we just pretend and imagine a world where Sean McVeigh had come out and done a super normal press conference on Thursday night and said like, and just he had given like this impassioned fiery speech about Ty Simpson is going to be incredible and we'll sit behind Stafford. But we all kind of processed it through the lens that McVeigh was obsessed with it. Do you think, where do you think Simpson would be ranked? Maybe two spots higher, three spots higher. To me, like it's funny because... Wait, wait, wait, let me ask you this. Okay. Let's say Matt Stafford announces he's retiring tomorrow. Right. Then that changes the... Where is he then? It changes it a lot. Where is he to you? I don't know, five, four, something like that. Well, if Stafford announced he was retiring, I think Ty Simpson... He's five or four, he's below Carnel Tate still to you? I think Ty Simpson would be third. You're losing track of the idea that I don't think he's very good. And this is like, this reminds me so much of what happened with J.G. McCarthy, J.G. McCarthy, not super experienced, didn't throw a ton of passes in college. We paired him up with KOC and everyone fucking freaked out. He's going to be amazing. He's going to be awesome. Guess what? He fucking sucks. He can't even make a... He can't even complete a pass. And this is like, I think where... He can't even complete a pass. This is where I think prior picks tend to inform you. You probably shouldn't let this happen, but it does happen in dynasties for me especially. I took J.G. McCarthy last year in this league and I'm like, I'm not fucking falling for this shit again. This guy does not have any special tools. And he might not play for two years. That is the reality. So I am way lower on him than you are right now. And I personally just don't want to bet on this because I've been a hater the whole time. Why would I change now? And that's... And that's... Thank you. You should take Ty... You should take Ty Simpson because you've been in love with Ty Simpson since the start. It just makes sense. We're quibbling over the actual value here. I think if you look at some of the value charts, people that do ADP studies and stuff like that on dynasty, like Colonel Tate has a lot more value right now. So you could argue that taking Tate and then trading him or something is the right move. But I think you should follow your heart ultimately, which is what I'm doing with Simpson and that's why I haven't ranked quite well. Should we talk? Well, maybe there's something to figure out here, Craig. Maybe you just do both. Maybe you take Jordan Tyson. Ty Simpson falls to four. And maybe you get both. And maybe I trade you my pick right now. Because the other thing you're not saying is Ty Simpson, oh, well, you won't play for two years. I'm not going to mention where Craig finished this year, but he does have the third pick. And perhaps he fits Craig's timeline. You could make your assumptions off of that. My idea was like, yeah, I take Ty Simpson. He sits for a couple years. Wait, hold on. My team sucks again next year and I have a good pick. This is why this is good to do, because I think it helps people. You should take Jordan. I didn't look at your roster till right now. You have Tyler Schuck. You should Aaron Jordan Tyson. The first year I won this league, I won. I guess. I won the needle mover. It is though, because I won this league for one reason in the first year. Well, a few reasons. But like being honest, like I think it's good to, like it's about process and then luck. And like you just get yourself to the final four and it's up to the gods. The first year I did this, I, the difference coming in first and third basically, was because Josh Allen hit his 60 yard touchdown pass to Stefan Diggs with four minutes left. And I had Josh and Diggs. And you could be like, well, I'm a genius. Well, you know what, that one fucking place won 20 points and I won the league. I get it. I know. So my point being, if Jordan Tyson's awesome and basically you, if Tyler Schuck's really great and you have him, you'll probably wish you had Jordan Tyson. So it's like, you might, if you're going for, I don't know, I would just stack them. Well, it's funny though. The lesson to me from Tyler Schuck is I took him because everybody thought he was bad and I was like, no one knows. So I just took him and he ended up, maybe he's good. And it's like, I wonder if that's just everyone's out on Ty Simpson. And maybe I should just be like, what if he's good? That's the best, just try back and do it then. Yeah, that's the best argument. I agree with you about Ty Simpson. I do think when he, and the other thing is, here's the difference. Everyone's just like, well, he's not going to play. I got to say, it is a lot more likely Ty Simpson plays like when the Packers took her, Jordan Love. Well, he's got to beat Stetson Bennett first. That's true. He'll compete with Stetson. Yeah. I will say the staffer, no one will be shocked if he's competing with Stetson. Dude, what the fuck? That was so weird. He'll compete with Stetson. He's going to compete with Stetson. All right. You know what? We were gaslit to just be like, of course, Sean McVay wanted him. What are you thinking? I'm like, I rewatched that. I'm like, he was like, he was literally, it was the most convincing lie, the most committed bit to lie about the whole thing. Because I think he was, he himself was scared. I think he himself was like, Matt Stafford's so fucking mad at me. I'm nervous sitting here right now. The part that maybe we didn't remind people of is don't forget what year, one month in April, 14 months ago, we were at the combine and there was all these insiders that know everything before it's happening. We're saying that Matt Stafford might go to the Giants because the Rams and Stafford were a serious impasse on his contract because it guaranteed money over his back. And basically they were like, go test the market and staff was like, fuck you, I will. And guess what? Everyone wants to pay me. But the Rams had a very contentious relationship and almost pushed Stafford out the door last year. And then he won the MVP and then they're like, ah, whatever, we're going to replace you anyway. Stafford's the MVP and he screamed at Sean McFay. Who do you think has the leverage now? Because Stafford is now trying to negotiate an extension. And is Stafford now like, if you want me to stick around, you better give me a lot of guaranteed money for multiple years because I'm pissed about Ty Simpson or the Rams like, we kind of have our next guy. So I'm going to put forth that the MVP of the league has the leverage in this situation. I agree. Everyone, yeah. Him leaving is a catastrophe. Like, do you know quickly? That could go down as like one of the worst all-time moves by any team. No, I know. I'm more just saying like, and like, are the Rams going to have to over commit now to Matt Stafford and give him a lot more money? That's a good question. Yeah. No, they'll pay. He's the MVP. You pay him. I will say, I do want to shout out. I know you pay him. Since you would you pay him the most? I'm saying like, is he going to sign like a three-year deal now? And in reality, he's going to play like one? Like, I don't know. No, he's going to play until he can't play anymore. But I do want to shout out. Last year when he had an ejection in his spine in August, I feel like we're all forgetting the fact that if Matt Stafford takes one hit the wrong way, he could be done. That's the thing is you judge teams by their actions, not their words. And I think, same with you, Rogers, he won two more VPs, but they were concerned by the guy and the ways. And also Rogers himself had said that when they drafted love, he didn't say that he said the timeline. He didn't mention love, but he was like, Rogers went back, watched his own tape and realized that he had been ticking around with his form. And he went batch and watched his, Rogers went back, watched his 2011 season and Rod, which was like as good quarterbacking as it ever gets. And he was like, Oh my God, my technique was so much more sound and better, even though he was younger. And he realized that he got older, but lazier, which is Packers fans know 2018 Rogers was just backfoot, no pressure, throwing missing touchdowns because it's like 10 yards away because he's throwing off his back foot. It's like Rogers like, I had to make my base narrower. I had to step forward when you throw. And he's like, I'm getting one two MVP's. And like, it kind of just took Jordan Love being drafted for Rogers to actually reevaluate his own game. I just ensure staff are, it's frustrating, but like he's also way more likely to miss time. But I agree that like, I think the Rams doing this is an admission that they think they were lucky to get through last year. Like, I think that's the admission. The Rams think, you know what, just because we got through last year and staff was fine means nothing about next season. I agree. He couldn't, at the end of the Vikings game, when the Rams lost that playoff game, or sorry, the Rams lost to the Eagles, staff could barely walk at the end of the playoffs. Like that was what, that was what the contract thing was. Like he could barely walk at the playoffs. Anyway. All right, we've talked about that a lot. All that's to say, Craig, follow your gut. Nobody knows shit. William Goldman, nobody knows anything. If you trust Sean McVeigh, like I agree, Tyson probably sucks. We also over-correct everything. I think you should try to maximize, you should try to maximize your, the value here though, to be clear. You think I could get Jeremiah Love? David, I'm so mad. What's your next pick? I would trade back and try and do that. My next pick is 203. Could you, I think that's the question. Could you just trade up from what, the 16th pick back to six instead of trading down, or you could trade down? So let's go. So we have Love, Mendoza, Tate, and Tyson are kind of the clear top four. And then we get into the third tier here where we have, did I say Tyson? I'm at Jordan Tyson. Tier three now, how big is, how deep is tier three for you guys? Who's in it? DK. Tier three would be probably for me, Mackay Lemon, KC, Concepcion. And then, I don't know, where does Jadae, where does Jadae and Price fit in here? He's technically a first round running back on a good team. So, you know what I mean? Like that in most years, he'd probably be like the third or fourth pick. He's definitely in tier three for me. Am I crazy? I mean, Zach Sharper, they toured ACL late in the year and they got rid of Kenneth Walker. I'm kind of like, is there a chance, is there a chance Jadae and Price is like legitimately good next year and very useful? 100%. Other than the fact that the Seahawks fucking sideline Kenneth Walker for half the year and took them out when they were near the goal line, that kind of like scares me a little bit. But yeah, I mean, again, first round, first round running backs, don't grow on trees. Typically in Dynasty, that is like a ticket to a very high pick in a rookie draft. I think the way to look at Jadae and Price is that you should just look at him the way the Seahawks wanted to do, which is he should be like a high second round running back. And yes, he's after the first round. But like, Seahawks tried to move back and get him in this high second round. So, I think to me, the tier here is Lemon, Concepcion and Price. So, and I'll give the Jadae and Price guys going to kick in the nuts update. We can do that after. I was going to do it during Price, but I feel like we should keep going with this tier thing. But Casey Concepcion, I think it's so, I don't know what to do with these guys, because now it's like talented guys who are still here, but it's so weird that four, in theory, four of the top 12 picks, like basically a first round in Dynasty, are it's two Cleveland Browns and two New York Jets on teams that are so bad offenses that already have good pieces. And like that's the weird part is Casey Concepcion, who I love. And if he went to the Rams or the Niners, people would be freaking out at the Casey Concepcion. But he's on Cleveland, who then takes Denzel Boston, an ex-receiver out of Washington with their next pick, on a team that already has Harold Finn, and who's like kind of a number one receiver as a tight end. And you're like, that's a lot of target here to break down for, as Mary Kay Cabot reported for Cleveland.com. To Sean Watson is going to be the quarterback in Cleveland. So, I don't know what to do about that. It's like, usually I'm a big believer that talent, bet on talent, because situations change faster than you think. But the Jets and Browns are a pretty big test of that philosophy. This is a beggars campy chooser situation. Yeah. You have to bet on talent. There's no other good picks right here, in my opinion. That's true. To me, I'm leaning heavily on my pre-draft evaluation of these players versus like the landing spot and trying to quibble about who the quarterback is. Maybe in 2027, it'll be some first round quarterback, and maybe the Browns offense will be electric. You know what I mean? Shit changes fast. Maybe fucking manning or something. It does change fast in the NFL. Yes. That's absolutely true. Sam Dordle won a Super Bowl. Yeah. So, I do think lean on your, in this case, lean on your pre-draft opinion and draft capital. Draft capital is big here. Kai Lemon, mid first rounder. Casey Concepcion, mid first rounder. Darian Price, first round running back. These guys typically produce. Ty Simpson, top 15 quarterback. Who won't start for two years. That is a big variable here. So, you don't think he's in this tier? I think he's in this tier. You can put him in this tier. I'd be fine with it. I personally would take all those other guys over him, but I think for fiduciary, whatever, like duty, let's put him in there. It's funny. There is a world in which Fernando Mendoza and Ty Simpson both don't play a snap this year, and they both start week one next year. Right? There's a possibility. Yes. There is. The whole point, forget fuck fiduciary duty. This is like our actual picture on the clock. If Ty Simpson's there at 11, would you take him? Or on a spike, you'd be like, no. 11. Oh, God. Probably take him there. Just hope he gains value. Again, I am so burnt from the JJ McCarthy experience that I'm just like, I never want to fucking do it. JJ McCarthy is untradable. I get that. He's fucking worthless in fans. But wasn't Ty Simpson, for the first half of the season last year, like the best quarterback in college football, no one ever thought that he would be going to the national title? That doesn't, but no one thought it was because of the way that one person said that because of him. No, no. A lot of people were high on him, dude. Yeah, he was the first round pick in Dynasty Drafts. I get that, but here's the thing. And he got paired up with Kevin O'Cottall. No one was saying that he would do that. Think about putting it in our heads last year. Well, a few people said that, but I wasn't of that opinion. But yes. But again, we're doing the exact same thing. I feel we're doing the exact same thing with Ty Simpson as we did with JJ McCarthy, which is elevating what he was because he got paired with a good coach. That's fair. And that is what's happening. And again, as we talked about in the take purge, Kevin O'Cottall, I think is not a quarterback whisper. He's just really tall, just so attractive. He's so good looking. I will say so. The discord, Joyner discord ringer fantasy football show, it's an incredible discord. Someone did put in the take purge that Ty Simpson is just JJ McCarthy, like all over again. And it's funny. Yeah. Shout out to, yeah, Junie Boone, who put that in. You could argue to me that JJ McCarthy was a far superior prospect than Ty Simpson. Let me ask this. Okay. Like, are you okay going down betting on who Sean McVeigh and Kevin O'Connell think is good at quarterback? Maybe. Is that really a horrible, horrible strategy? No. I also got Jackson. I'm burnt from this last thing. And I don't want to have to deal with that again. That's a real emotional thing of how it goes. I also got Jackson's art with the 12th pick in this league last year. That's just a better draft though. So it's not quite the same. But yeah, yeah. Now you're just bragging. Now I couldn't trade you JJ McCarthy for Tyler Shuck. No fucking way. I couldn't get literally anybody for JJ McCarthy. Life comes at you fast. Honestly, if people want advice for dynasty, and also Craig, I was not bragging about that. I was bragging when I said I won three of the four leagues. If you want advice in dynasty, it's really the simple. It's, it would, you saying advice? I forgot again. Today I was like, did you? I should shit talk more. You have to be the most obnoxious piece of shit. You would have to remind me weekly. You'd have to have it like a weekly reminder set to be a big sign. No one fucking cares. I really honestly, I really actually am going to be more annoying. Leagues, I win. It's incredible how quickly people forget if you won the champion. No one keeps track. I don't even fucking pay attention to who wins when it's it, when it's happening. You should, you know what? Because our league is, is we don't even play for money. It's just vibes. You, you should, the rule should be, have you not been sending money? No, we play for money, Craig. What? There's, this is a buy-in thing. Do you owe me money? I think I do. I didn't pay you. You never, no, you pay at the beginning of the season, Craig. Is somebody charging me or do I have to do it? Do you have to go through Venmo and see if you Venmo the commissioner here? Is the commissioner charging me or am I just expected to send it? Fucking hey. I can't wait to send this Venmo. I genuinely don't think I've ever paid. Oh my god, I gotta look into this. Well, who, who, who sends the Venmo? Uh, T-Bone. Tyson probably? Oh, maybe I have. I think you have. I hope he has. He probably would have told me. How much is it? Craig's never paid. It's $100 a year. I mean, it's free. Oh yeah, I'm paying him. No, it's 150. It's 150. Oh, there we go. Yeah. High-fits fuck off. Wow. Jesus. I genuinely was like, holy shit, have I not been paying this entire time? It feels like I'm paying for $5. By the way, I haven't mentioned this, but I got second place in the league. No one cares. My god, no one cares. I did win. I did win some money. Wait, what was I saying? Oh yeah, you know what should come with winning? Is you, everyone should have to change your name, Danny High-Fits, in their phone to Danny High-Fits champion for a year. That's good. That's a great idea. So here's the thing. Every text you send in the group chat, you see champion. I'm in another dynasty league, and you know what the solution was? A giant fucking trophy, and we made this like the Stanley Cup, and like, you know what? Can't get confused about who won now because they put the names on the side of the trophy. What a tremendous trophy. I named my team the Detroit Lions because they ended up with Jameer Gibbs, Amon Ross St. Franta, and La Porta. So I ended up winning the first two years of the league. But that's where you put the name on the trophy, and you have a ceremony that no one fucking forgets. I would sooner quit this league than put Danny High-Fits champion. I love, I would sooner. I would sooner leave this league. You know what though, I bet you having the trophy doesn't help anybody else remember? You should almost send them your face, little trophy, and they have to hang that up in their office. Yeah, I should actually, yeah, that's a good point. Yeah. Anyway, what are we talking about? Regardless. No one cares who won. It's really true. Yeah, you're right. Changing your name and your phone, Danny High-Fits champion, it's pretty good. So we're going to say tier three is Ty Simpson, the quarterback, Mackay Lem, and the receiver, Casey Concepcion, the receiver for the Browns, Chidarian Price, the Seahawks new running back we'll put in there. And you guys, I had Denzel Boston in there. You guys don't agree? I don't know what to do with him. I don't know. It's weird because also Omar Cooper and Kenyon Siddique, if you're in a tie-in premium league, which again, awards like a point and a half per catch, then it's like Kenyon Siddique, we have to talk about too, because I personally am of the vein that I don't know what Kenyon Siddique is going to be spoiler. I don't know if the Jets are going to get a quarterback next year. I just look at it like the idea that Kenyon Siddique is some lock, if you just pull up lists of old tight ends that have been drafted in that range that are really athletic, it's 50-50. It's like, you know what no one ever talks about? OJ Howard, who was an unbelievable prospect out of Alabama, like God, I feel like eight years ago, nine years ago, God. He had a couple of seasons, but then he tore his Achilles. He did tear his Achilles. Well, he had fine seasons and then he tore his Achilles. He was a fine player, but I think he was a better prospect than Kenyon Siddique. Noah Fentz was an amazing prospect out of college. He was an incredibly athletic tight end of Iowa, and him and TJ Hawkinson came out. Hawkinson was really good, Torez and CL, now he's fine. Noah Fentz had injuries, but Noah Fentz is kind of the epitome of an average fantasy football tight end, but when you watch him on the field, he's not average, but I'm like, there's a lot of these guys that, so I'm just like, okay, it's a situation where there's a lot. And it's like, now it's like Garrett Wilson and Omar Cooper Jr. is like another first-run pick at receiver. And so you have two first-run picks at receiver in the Jets, and they have another tight end that they just took really high in the second round and 40 second or whatever that they used on Mason Taylor last year. I'm like, that's a lot of competition for a team that is Gina Smith trying to get a quarterback next year. Like, I don't know. It's like, to me, that is maybe Kenyon Siddique's fantastic, and I don't want to rank him too low, but I don't know what to do with any of these people. I don't know what to do with Omar Cooper, who I love. I don't know what to do with Denzel Boston getting passes from D'Shaun Watson. Maybe that's fantastic, but I don't fucking know. It's a weird class, man. I agree. I think there's been a lot of outlier tight ends that have rookie tight ends that have popped recently. And I do think the recency bias has kind of just like manipulated us into thinking that all of these first-round tight ends are going to be great. Like you have Brock Bowers who set the rookie record for catches. Kyle Pitt set over 1,000 yards this first year. Laporta had 10 TDs. Tyler Warren was like a top five guy until Daniel Jones got hurt, and then even Colston Loveland finished the season, the second half of the season. He was a top five guy. But you know... You know, Finn had also had an unbelievable amount of catches through half, like for a rookie. It's a very, like top five ever, I think, for rookie tight end. In most of those cases, those guys were in really strong offensive systems with good quarterback play, or they were Brock Bowers, and they were just like, there was no one else to throw to, and he's a generational talent. Sadiq is like not a good offensive situation, not a great quarterback situation. It's a crowded offense. I just, I totally agree with you, Huyvitz. I think he is much closer to like the old school first-round tight ends and what they used to do. So I do want to give people the answers here. What are we doing at the fifth pick? Let's say Craig takes Jordan Tyson, and off ties Simpson, then I take Karnell Tate. What are we doing with Mackay Lemmon or Casey Kasey Kasey? Mackay Lemmon fifth. Would you, so it's Mackay Lemmon fifth. Would you take Kasey Kasey on the Cleveland Browns with the sixth pick, or would you take Jadarian Price, who's probably going to be starting running back for the Seahawks? I mean, that's, it's like, do you need a running back or a wide receiver? I think it's fine to go either way. Yeah. I think that's the tier. I think it's Lemmon, Kasey Kone Price is the tier. I think after that, then you can start talking about Sadiq, Cooper, Simpson, Denzel Bosse, Eli Stowers, we can go down the line. Again, Jadarian Price is just worth mentioning. He's on one hand an electric playmaker. He's, he can be a home run hitter. He's an incredible specialty player, but the flip side is didn't catch 15 passes in college. And Dane Brugler had this great stat at the beast. And this Jadarian Price is final 24 games at Notre Dame. He fumbled four times. Three were inside the five yard line. Three fumbles inside the five yard line in 24 games. When you are the backup running back, you are not the main ball carrier, is really concerning. So it's like, you feel like one of a couple of things might happen. It fumbles incredibly small sample size and Jadarian Price comes in and he's like, actually I can catch. It's fine. I'm just not as good at Jadarian Price. And maybe Jadarian Price is a three down back that doesn't allow to tread on his tires and becomes like a superstar. And maybe we're sitting here in like a year later, like, oh yeah, it's like more of an Harrison Junior like Jadarian Price was better than Jadarian Price. I also don't think it's hard to imagine Jadarian Price comes in fumbles at the goal line in week three and then now doesn't get goal line touches or catch passes. And you're like, oh, that was a mistake. I see why these soaks didn't actually want to take them there. And Zach Sharpen, he comes back and he just kind of ends up being one a one B engineer in price is fine. So like that seems like an easier story to foresee. You know what I mean? Yeah. Is Zach Sharpen going to be on the field? Probably not. I think I saw he didn't have his surgery until kind of late and then I'm gonna miss a month or two. Right. I think he's gonna miss nine months will be something like November. So he might miss like the whole season. I mean, even if it's like a Christian Watson, who is the first player in a wild to come back from the ACL tear and look exactly like he was like, you know, we have not seen that a minute. Even if it's that, yeah, it's like, how will we I don't know. I'm kind of like Charbonnet is out for two to three months. They have Emmanuel Wilson and you did in this first run running back they took in a good offense. I'm kind of like, don't overthink it. Dude, Charbonnet didn't have ACL surgery till February 21. Yeah, I'm like, this don't don't overthink this. This guy's probably gonna contribute. DK also have to tell you, same at Denzel Boston. I don't know how we went through draft season without talking about this. But so Denzel Boston were number 12 at the University of Washington. And he did that basically because he swapped to being a CX fan during the Super Bowl run and the 12s. And we was 12 years old. So he was like, screw it. I'm a 12. So and then he went to Washington. Sweet. So move him up a spot. 12s, baby. I think, yeah, I think this is the tier though, the three of those guys. Do you do you want to add anyone to the lemon conception price tier? Well, I think it's like a mini teardrop and then it's Denzel Boston, Omar Cooper, Kenyon Sadiq. I don't know if you want to like who else you want to add, Jeremy Bernard or we can do it. Honestly, I look at it as one big tier and the way I think about a tier is a tier is a group of guys that if someone else made a pick at this spot, I would not judge them or make fun of them. But I have a personal preference within the tier. I look at it like I would take, I agreed to, I'd take Casey Concepcion. I would consider Jairn Price. I'd consider Ty Simpson. But if someone else is like, I'm going to take Kenyon Sadiq because it's tight and premium and all these, it's a weird class. I'm like, I'm not going to judge them. Someone's like, I don't want to fucking Cleveland Browns. Even I'll take the Jets. Like I wouldn't judge them. So I think it's actually kind of one big tier. And I, but I think there's, what is it? A dozen guys here. We didn't talk about Cooper a ton, but the Jets are a weird team. There's just a lot going on. I think, okay, that's fair. So Sadiq Cooper and Simpson's, I guess, in the earlier tier, and then Boston, where do you put Eli Stowers? Where do you put Jeremy Bernard? Where do we stop this tier? Is Jonah Coleman in it? I think Stowers is the first guy in that tier, the last guy in that tier we just talked about in the first and the next. Yeah. I personally would have a Sadiq Cooper, Boston Stowers. Yo, it's funny though, because you could argue though, you could pretty easily argue Stowers is a much, much, much easier path to being a good fantasy player than Kenyon Stig, because even though Stowers is taken later, Stowers is a receiver. Like he's not a tight end. Stowers is, Stowers is an athletic tight end, Danny Kelly. Stowers is, he's, he's freakishly athletic. Stowers is 6'4", 230 and has a higher vert than LeBron James and Vince Brown. 45 and a half inches. The highest vertical jump for any tight end on record is the combine, highest broad jump, but he tied on a record. And then also, yeah, to create, like he can jump higher than LeBron. He's an insane athlete. He was a tight end, sorry, he was a quarterback. But he's only been playing tight end for three years and he's not going to block. He's not that physical of a guy. He's not on the field to be a blocker. I don't understand that role in the NFL now where it's like, oh, a tight end who doesn't block. I'm like, isn't the whole point to line up in line and 13 person? I don't get it. But the team, the Eagles took them. But here's the thing, the Jets are not sending Mason Taylor anyway. Like they took him at LSU. His last year is Jason Taylor's son. They're going to play Mason Taylor and Kenyon Stig together. Eli Stowers was drafted to replace Dallas Goddard. Eagles fans were surprised Goddard was on the team this year. He almost has been kicked off. He's almost been cut basically by the Eagles for traded. Kick him off the tour. Kick him off the tour, Doug. I keep his fingers crossed. Mendoza's benched. Goddard's kicked off the team. You're right. But you're right. I mean, DK, you're going to play Scott next year maybe. Well, and DK, you're caught for him with Evan Ingram, like a true, like receiving tight end. And AJ Brown is likely to go away, which leaves the Eagles with Mackay Lemon and Devonte Smith and kind of a bunch of wide receiver, three, four guys, not exactly. And at Dallas Goddard's gone in a year, like you don't exactly have like a big time red zone body to go out and do things that AJ Brown brought. So I kind of like Eli Stowers. It's like a late first, early second dart. I think if he's the 12th guy in this class, if you're especially if you're tight end premium, because I think at this point, such a weak receiving class, you might as well fucking just take the tight end because if it's like he's a good tight end, if he's a good receiver as a tight end, then you're like, man, that's a G code. Again, Evan Ingram, who I think Stowers, I mean, he's way more athletic than Evan Ingram, even though he was the first round pick Evan Ingram was. Stowers, it's such a weird receiver class where like the guy at the first pick of the second round is Dejean Stribling, wherever in those are reached. It's like, you might as well just takes that. I think he's the 12th guy in, it's pretty neatly cuts off after 12 picks. So I think it's there and then the next year begins, which with that said, should we go into that second round now that we've been doing this for so long? Or should I read you the email about either Jadae or I'm price? I think it's worth going through one more tier. Okay. First though, I have to just read one quick note. So Kenny and Steak, which we didn't mention, went to Oregon. And I have to read you a text from my friend, Bobby. Shout out to Bobby. Bobby. So we were arguing about how we were like, Oh my God, people from Washington, Oregon say Oregon, two words, two syllables. Bobby said, I just consulted with my dad who grew up in Oregon, went to Oregon State, and he says he does not know a single person who pronounces Oregon with two syllables. Okay. I'll check back. Okay. Thanks. I'll consult with my Oregon people as well. Yeah. I could be wrong. Anyway, with that said, I don't think I'm wrong, but I could be wrong. What did he say? Oregon? Oral? It's not, it's not Oregon. It's the gone thing is it's not good or gone. It's the, it's the middle E once again, just like Jeremy. It's the Oregon, Oregon, Oregon, Oregon, Oregon, Oregon. You're saying Oregon like a kidney. Yeah, right. It's not a kidney. So does that not sound weird to you that those were like, look at the spelling of the word Oregon like kidney and then Oregon. No, no, no, I understand that. I get that. Yeah. Yeah. No, I understand where you're coming from on that. However, that's not how I say it. Okay. Second round. I have no idea how to do this. And also at some point when you do these rankings, it's like, it's kind of, for the most part, it's like the order the NFL drafted them is a really great starting point. And then you're trying to just mix it and match on teams. But like, I think we got to John Stribbling, who's the receiver out of Ole Miss, that went to the Niners, the first pick of day two to reach, but Shanahan drafted a receiver. I don't think he's a redraft guy, but Dynasty, you can take him. Elijah Seraph for the Ravens, he was later, he's the fourth round pick, but that could be good. Jeremy Bernard for the Steelers, second round pick and Tony Williams, second round pick to the, sorry, third round pick to Washington at a Clemson. The Dolphins took Chris Bell at a Louisville and Kale Douglas, who we never heard of, Zachary Abrams, the Falcons, D.K. Which of these guys actually kind of like, light your fire, of which you'd actually be excited if you got them, versus disappointed, because I don't think there's any consensus among this receiver group. I think the guys that I liked the most in that group are Jeremy Bernard, Antonio Williams, and Zachariah Branch. Those would be sort of like, in the early second round, again, this is like a beggars, can't be choosers type of dynasty drafts this year. Once you get into like the 110, 111, you're like, God, this is not a normal first round pick in Dynasty. But I think, in terms of just liking them prior to the draft, liking where they landed, I think Antonio Williams maybe stands out the most, because he kind of slots in as the number two in Washington. Good quarterback, maybe their offense is going to bounce back in a big way this year. I think he's got an all around skill set. They said he can play inside and outside, so he's theoretically going to be on the field a lot for them. And so I think Antonio Williams is a good bet. Jeremy Bernard is another one that I really like, we're going to have to catch. There's more questions about his role immediately, because of D.K. MacGuffin, Michael Pittman, plus what's going to happen post-Aaron Rodgers. And then Zachariah Branch. It'll be fine, it'll be fine. Maybe we are post-Aaron Rodgers, no one knows. Zachariah Branch is just a fun one, and it's turned, it's gone from kind of a bit into like, I actually do think he landed in a good spot. But I don't know how much of a ceiling he has in fantasy. Yeah, thank God, he's a quarterback who can't throw downfield, so he's not a choice, but the throw behind the line of scrimmage. I agree with everything D.K. just said. I think Antonio Williams and Jeremy Bernard are probably the two guys I'm the most interested in. Antonio Williams, he's like six foot, 185 pounds. He's not an outside guy, he'll probably play in a slot. But outside of Terry McClaren, it's Traylon Birks, Luke McCaffrey, and D'Ami Brown. If Antonio Williams is good, we'll probably know quickly. Also, it feels like a youth thing might not happen. I can see him having a redraft value too, Antonio Williams. I agree. I'm not expecting anything from Brandon Ayuk this year. They might just keep him. They might just, they don't give a fuck. They might cut him, they avoided all the guarantees in his contract and they don't have to pay him when he's on the whatever list he's on. I think they're going to cut him. That brings me to Dejan Stribbling, who I want to discuss briefly. Everyone agrees that it's a massive reach, and everybody was talking about the players that the Niners have taken on day two and how poorly they've turned out. However, if you look at the wide receivers that the Niners have taken on day two, they have worked out. You have Brandon Ayuk. You'll say he was awesome when he's on the field. He was first. He was a late first. Late first. Oh, late first. You're right. Sorry. 33 is basically the first one. I'm going like 25 to 50, essentially, because Ricky Piersall's same thing. Ricky Piersall is also a good wide receiver, who when he's healthy is very good. And then Dante Pettis was the one that didn't work. But part of me is kind of like, you have Mike Evans for a year. You have George Kittle coming off an Achilles in his early 30s. You have Christian McCaffrey, who's also 30 years old. And you have the whatever Brandon Ayuk is probably never going to play another snap for the Niners again. So it's like really just Ricky Piersall. And now Dejan Stribbling, when you're looking at like the long-term situation of the Niners, obviously a lot can change. But based on three and Debo Samuel, of course, like another wide receiver that Kyle Shanahan took that turned out to be great. I'm kind of like when it's wide receiver specific, when you hone in on just the wide receivers, they've drafted kind of good. And also Shanahan was a receiver. Like he took Shanahan taking a receiver like you should probably just take them. Honestly, I think Dejan Stribbling should be the first pick of the second. I should be like the 13th guy. I think at that point, I don't think you guys kind of talk me into Antonio Williams being the 14th guy here, because you're right. Like I also think he's the one most likely to have redraft value for this season of that group, because he could just be the number two receiver for Washington, earn that, and then Terry McClure and Pulse Hamstring or something. And then like maybe he's the number one. These other guys, I love Jeremy Bernard. He's just destined to be a better real life football player than fantasy, even though I love watching him play. I, Zachary Branch, if you're in a full PPR league, like I think actually makes a difference. But my question for you, DK, where do you slot in Jonah Coleman in this? Because Jonah Coleman, again, the thinking man's game scatiboo, the running back out of also Washington, he went to Denver in the third round on one hand. I'm out. You hate Sean Payton. No, not really. I think, yeah, he's probably not going to be someone I'm drafting personally just because I don't want to deal with it. It's like, it's like, When you say that, Joe, if he filled you with the RJ Harvey thing, like we're already doing it with RJ Harvey, one year later, we're already fucking out on RJ Harvey. But there's a spot where you would take Joe to Coleman. It took one year for everyone to give up on their fucking second round pick. Stop. That's crazy. I'm not, what am I saying? That's wrong. Sean Payton has had two running backs in every offense he's ever ran in his entire life. Yeah. You thought RJ Harvey was going to be a three down back? I thought he was going to be useful. He'd literally, okay, but he's still kidding me. It's just J.K. Dobbins is going to become Joe Coleman. Alvin Camaro is like the number one running back in Funky Football. We got to stop talking about fucking Mark Ingram and Alvin Camaro. Like that was a long time ago. Okay. But that was, I'm just saying, Sean Payton, every version of success he's ever had at two running backs. I don't think RJ Harvey was expected to be a three down back. How's that gone lately though? Are we feeling good about it lately? They should have made the Super Bowl. I didn't say it again. What are you talking about? Alvin Camaro, third round pick, okay? Third round pick. What the fuck are you talking about? How good they are as a team? We're talking about fantasy. J.K. Dobbins is probably going to be drafted higher than RJ Harvey this year. I don't think, I think that would be a mistake. Okay. Then you do it. You go for it. I'm adding RJ Harvey to my buy. I'm adding RJ Harvey to my buy low list. I don't understand that he's a rookie running back. That happens all the time. I like RJ Harvey for what it's worth. I did too. I loved him. Oh, this is just you took him a dynasty in your pissed. Correct. This is how you play football. These people you trade with. Why are you confused? This is new to you that I hate? Sean Payton in fantasy? We've talked about this 150 times over the last two years. What are you confused about? I just wanted to know where you take Jonah Coleman. You said I won't. What am I saying? I haven't said for the last like. I just asked where would you take Jonah Coleman in this draft? I wouldn't take him. I wouldn't take him. I'm going to rank him. Right here at like 13, 14. You had the 48th pick in the rookie dynasty draft. You're not going to take Jonah Coleman. I'll trade it. What would you recommend to somebody else? Yeah, 13 or 14. Okay. I just said that. I know, but I figured that if you give an answer, I was going to say that's the low end and then we could figure out the high end and there I am range. Again, I've reached the point in my life where I don't want to deal with toxic people. I don't know why I talk to you all the time. I fits, but I'm just kidding. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Great job. Hilarious. Well, maybe this way. But I'm like, dude, when he went, I was like, of course, the guy, the running back that I love the most coming into this draft is of course, he lands in Denver where they already have Jackie Dawkins and RJ Harp. He's going to sing even more when he's fucking great. I was going to say, I'm going to be happy for him. This is a good spot for him. Like if it's, no, it is a good spot for him. But if Sean Payton has a three running back backfield, that's bad. But if it's a two running, like I guess I understand we hate Sean Payton, but like, I like him. I love that. Is there any more classic than hating Sean Payton who just almost got Jared Stinnham and Budnix and the fucks? I think he's entertaining. I'll put it that way. How many times do I have to say hi Fitz? Fantasy. He's a good coach in football. He's a good football coach. No, I know. Well, then why do you keep saying, oh, why do we keep making fun of this guy that got them? No one's for the Super Bowl. I'm just saying that Mark, I don't know. Mark Ingram was a good fantasy thing for like eight years, nine years. Yeah. When was that? When Mark Ingram was younger, he's like 40. I know. It was a fucking long time ago is what I was saying. The last time Sean Payton coached a team, the running backs were good. Yeah. And now he's trying to do that again. Okay. Look at the last few years. Well, he's only been there a couple years and he's trying to draft guys and turn them into something. All right. Well, you know what, you get in on that. I'm out. That's cool for you. You get, you know what, how about it, man? Fuck it. Knock yourself out. So it doesn't matter to you that Camara was fucking awesome and Mark Ingram was fucking awesome for like the last five years of Sean Payton in New Orleans. And now he's, he's trying to do that again in Denver. No, it did. It used to matter to me, but now I've decided that it doesn't matter. The thing to remember is I actually think the thing people maybe not realizing is I think there's a world where Sean Payton doesn't see R.G. Harvey as Camara. He sees R.G. Harvey as Darren Sprouls, which I don't think people are emotionally prepared to accept. Emotionally prepared. I think that is perhaps what he wants. Sure. I will say, is there any other like late dart throws that you'd actually be like, okay, this guy could be something. So like, you know, Malachi fields for the Giants, I'm just kind of excited about, that's probably Giants homerism. Ted Hurst for the Bucks is actually pretty good. It gets ugly fast. I will say, I think Kailin Black for the Niners, everyone's kind of like, oh, well, he wasn't invited to the combine. Well, he was the third running back fucking taken. And just because Shannon had some past running backs, I'm like, I don't know, he's falling a lot further. I also think that Brown's taking Kailin Green out of Arkansas is just like wild. He's basically Tarell Pryor. That's really weird. He's an incredible athlete. I don't know. It's a weird, it's a weird year for these rookie drafts. Brendan Thompson. Sure. Why not? 164 pound receiver. Yeah. You've been feisty. You literally, you're like, that's not weird. It's not weird to take 164 pound receiver the fourth round. Oh, it's weird. It's weird. It's definitely weird. Shocking. Yeah. Okay. Anything else on Dynasties? We're going to make these picks, Craig or what? Like we say, we're going to do this on the, we're going to make these picks. What are you going to do? I need to, I need to talk to my, talk to my team and see what we decide. Are you going to try to do trade? Just read the trade offers now. We'll make your content. I don't have exact trade offers. I have to, I have to massage them and see what the details are. So after all that, we're not going to make the picks. I'm not going to make the pick right now. I've had multiple people reach out to me. Hmm. That's a little weak. I thought we were going to make a content. It's okay. Well, I, I, I, you want me to be texting? You want me to negotiate while we're recording? I kind of, okay. We're running out of time for that. I know. Well, really, it's fine. We'll do it. It's okay. Everyone's just like, no, we're not going to hear his fantasy. Yeah. People are desperate to find out what happens. Let them know. Let me read it. DK, you think you're upset now? I got to read this email. Oh, great. Hell. Seamless from Thomas. Tommy. This is the Tommy. This is the guy who got kicked. This is the kicked in the nuts. If you take a running back with their first pick, Thomas, the bet heard around the world, the man who bet that the COX would not take a running back with his nuts, even if they traded back. Yeah. Tommy writes, subject lines just the aftermath. First off, let me start with a heartfelt thank you to all the listeners who've offered condolences to my testicles. It truly means a lot in these trying times. Oh, my cat's here. I heard that. You want to hear this? You heard that, Meow? Since the 32nd pick was announced at approximately 8.00, 6.00 PM Pacific time, my life has devolved into a bit of chaos. I only know that time because Heifetz emailed me eight fucking seconds after the pick was announced. That's true. Before I even had time to grasp the gravity of the situation, my fantasy text thread had over 50 texts. Plans for the execution of the terms were officially underway. One friend dubbed it, quote, the kick heard around the streams, end quote. Long story short, after the pick was made, one ding dong in our group showed his wife the podcast and his wife then shared it with time stamps and a separate text thread with all the other wives, including mine. Shockingly, the wives were not fans. They're not going to allow this. Oh boy. I haven't heard the word juvenile thrown around so many times since back that as up was a hit. Yeah. Millennial callback just for DK. While I truly had every intention of taking my medicine here, I regret to inform you that the Oh my God. Wife. The wife put a kind wash on this. Damn. Ducking behind the wife. The new term. Yeah. He literally, literally his argument is his argument is my balls belong to her. That's literally what he's saying. That's fair. How can you kick them if they're in his wife's purse? This is weak. I like I want. Here's the thing. There's a real it's a funny thing that for men, it's an entirely justifiable thing. Yeah, I can't hang out tonight. My wife said I can't do it. This is the best excuse to get out of a punishment I've ever ever. But I don't know. And the post having children, correct? I believe so. I thought he said he was snipped. He said, I cares at this point. Who needs him? He said to have them off after you're done. Honestly, dude, it's funny to say that. We're going to do this take purge for the discord. The discord had an incredible take purge. One of them from shout out bar fight princess wrote men don't need their balls in their 40s. Why don't they produce testosterone? How does that work? I'm not a doctor. I don't know. But it's not provoking. It is interesting. It gets the people going. I don't know. I couldn't sit here and explain to you like definitely why. I don't know. I disagree. I think we do need you think so. Cool. Yeah. What's your pitch for vibes mainly? It would look weird. It would look super weird without him. To people that you might be married to or others. Imagine if one was really bruised and swollen because you got kicked to the nuts because the six like a running back. I just he sent a whole thing of here are the updated terms, $200 buy in. I owe him a red of golf level our league. I have to spend half my fab a Gideon price. Firstly, he's spent all your fucking fab a Gideon price. Second, he says, I hope this service is a cautionary tale to everyone out there. Draft takes can have real world consequences. Don't make stupid ones outside the confines of the Perch siren. Don't bet your money man. It's like a scaped contain. Nonetheless, thank you for reading. Yeah, dude, I gotta tell you Tommy, this has been a fun lesson. He's going to go on a speaking tour. Yeah. I think this is Tommy. I won't lie. I'm profoundly disappointed. I think we need to figure out some other place that gets kicked. I think that we should ask them in the showed. I think we should ask to apparently showed means different things regionally is what I've learned the last couple days. What does it mean to you? A showed to me and when I was growing up was the same as taint is like Gooch. What? Really? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. A show toss is a short fat dick. Yeah. No, I know. I learned this recently. I did not know that. Interesting. Yeah. Look, I Googled it and confirmed it because I was like, am I fucking crazy? And it is. It's a regional thing. Regional, not generational. I don't know. It said regional. People in the Oregon say showed meaning taint or people in Oregon. Yeah. But you said it though. That sounded fucking weird to me. That's all right. Yeah. But the I was like, I was like, I sound like I'm talking like the mid-Atlantic accent. People in Oregon. Yeah. It was not. What is the Atlantic? I don't even know what that is. Yeah. Just and you won't even take Jonah Coleman. Coleman. Ooh, that's a good point. No, it's not. It's a silent. Oh, there's silent ease, Craig? Yes, there are. Oh, that's interesting that you say that. I looked at my friend's dad who went to Oregon State and grew up in Oregon and was like, what? What are you talking about? Look, people in different places. What do you mean there's silent ease? What are you talking about? You said there's an E in it. It's silent. That's what I was saying. Oregon. The E is not silent in Oregon. Yeah, I know. Well, you're saying you, you were like upset with me because I made the E silent. Turns out there's some words that have silent ease is what I'm saying. Yes. And you have the job as somebody who speaks English is to determine which words have a silent E and which do not. That's the job? Damn. We're fucked. This whole thing reminds me. That's kind of the whole point of your first 10 years of school is to figure out which words have silent letters and which don't. It's the English experience. So much of this reminds me that my I contend that Oregon has a silent E. I think it came from April 20th to like August 10th would hate the DK around the rest of the year. I think they actually wouldn't agree on anything. Okay. I don't know. Like if I said that I just won't draft John Nicole, I turn into not me later. What does that even mean? I think you're like severed. Like once the draft ends, you're like severed. Maybe. We invented severance. People forget that. Okay. Where were we? But this guy, what are we doing? I think we should talk to this guy's manager. I think that we should ask to speak to his wife and ask to see if we can convince her. We need to negotiate. This isn't like he can't just like say, oh, by the way, I'm not doing it. This is a negotiation. We need to talk to the wife. Like, look, get her on the horn. I would feel this isn't like he posted on social media where he sent me a very long. Where's this guy? The terms of this bet. We're going over there. We're going to do our next live show in that guy's hometown. This guy, this guy. And we're going to bring him out on stage and he's going to be sitting in a dunk tank behind us, the entire show. Can't just say just kidding. I'm not doing it. And then at the end of the show, everybody gets a tennis ball and they get to throw it at the dunk tank and try to dunk them. That's actually an awesome idea. I like that. We should do a show. For charity, for children. Sure. Sure. For the kids. We should do a show where the three of us are on stage doing the pod in individual dunk tanks. That's a really funny idea. And we have some manufactured gimmick where people get to throw shit at us every five minutes. That's really funny. Now we're just becoming, I guess, like legitimately like a clown show, but that's kind of fun. Circus act. Oh my God. All right. Yeah, I have others. We're going to have to do a mailback. I have some fantastic emails, but we've gone so long I might have to save them. I have another funny one, but I, you know what? Maybe just make sure to tune in for the mailbacks that are coming up. It's going to be really good. I got an incredible follow up on Lions, but we'll have to save that. Okay. Yeah. Email us in if you have an idea of how to rectify the situation. Really, here's what we need. If you are listening to this and you are a wife and I want to know what you think. The rare chance that you are a wife listening to this podcast. Speaking to all seven women, all seven women listening to the show, including Craig and I's moms. If you are a wife, no? My mom listens. Didn't you say you looked sweaty? My mom likes our Instagrams only. She takes you to look sweaty. I mean, that's very fair. Yeah. Come on. I want to know if you are wife listening. One, what you would think if you found out, no matter what you think your husband, if you just found out that his fantasy league is going to kick him in the nuts and it got blown up on a podcast. One, would you rather him not do it, don't be a child, you're an adult, or you said this, you're going to back out. I actually am curious what the breakdown ends up being. And it does matter that they are past having children. That is no longer a factor. Yes. And it was his idea. That's the other thing there. He wasn't off for this except he came up with the whole format. But was it one of those things where he's if the Seahawks take a fucking running back in the first round, you'd kick me in the nuts? Or was he actually written terms that were emailed to us days in advance with very specific scenarios for every possible iteration of the draft? It wasn't like, I'll eat my shoe if not some verbal thing in passing. It was a 400 word, 500 word email, half of which was the terms for every potential scenario. Okay. And like a lawyer. Would a lawyer agree to get kicked in the nuts? He would assign something. If the next email he sends back is like, well, you have no trail. I feel like bottom line, you can't just say just kidding, I'm not doing it. Well, he didn't do that. We got to come up with something else. Well, if you can, well, yeah, he's like, I'm not doing the funny part we get excited about because my wife can't do that either. Just admit you don't want to get hit in the nuts. That's fine. Just do you think it would be worth this while if we said that we would broadcast it live on Netflix? We should make it the half time of the live draft. We'll do the live draft on Netflix. It should be half time of the draft. Yeah, it will. We'll do that. And Bill Simmons and the whole crew will watch Tom get fucking dropped, kicked in the nuts live on Netflix. Not bad. I still can't. That's pretty good. I still can't believe DK saying showed means taint. Yeah. So when did you find this out, DK? Like, if someone, like sometimes you'll read a comment online and they're like, this guy's a chode. Like, you know, it was yesterday that I found out that it's not a taint to some people. You got to go back and change, delete a lot of your old tweets. Correct. Do you ever wonder what they showed constantly? That's what other words are like that. That's a pretty big difference, though, for something not that geographically far away. It's pretty, that's pretty big difference. Yeah, I never, the Craig knew immediately it was a dick that's wider than it is long. What is it? Here's the thing with, here's the quibble I have with the regional. Very specific. It's, I feel like it sounds like what it is. Yeah, it does. It's because the word is very, I don't know the, the shapes and letters. Craig, don't you feel like every single person our age knows this, no matter where they're from? I've never encountered it, but maybe I just didn't know. We didn't know we were talking about it. News flash. I'm not your age. Well, you said it was regional. I'm wondering if it's an age thing. Maybe it is. Yeah. I think it's an age thing. I don't know. I mean, I guess I don't hang out with a lot of people from the Pacific Northwest, but, but I've never encountered anybody who thought the definition of showed was different than what it is. Well, the East silent. So maybe that's a confusion. Right, show day. Can we make this a poll or is that wild to put on Spotify? What do you find? I would be curious. The poll would, I'm just curious how many people, how regional is it? Is it like fucking specific to one town or what here? Just Bellingham. Can people just fire off email? You don't have to write the email. Can people just fire off emails that just like just put the subject line, like show dick in like your age, you know, do you think there was one kid in Bellingham and he looked up with a girl and she was like, she was like, I saw his chode last night. And then he was like, um, yeah, that actually means your taint area. Nothing to do with the penis. That's, yeah, that sounds probably realistic. Yeah. Yeah. I do have a, I do have a small chode that the area between down that was small. Paraneum. She's right. It's so small because my dick is so big. Right. Perspective. I bet that is not the coalition. It's so, it's like, you know, when they fill in the water, the rings, you know, Frodo's actually, he's not that short. Yeah. All right. That's, wow, I've learned a lot. Um, fling is the best really. We love it. All right. Thank you, DK. Thank you, Craig. Thank you to ever told DK that. Um, thank you to everyone emailing in ringer fantasy football gmail.com. Thank you in advance to Tommy's wife who will, uh, you know, I'm just curious. Let's talk. This is, we'll, we're up. Yeah, we'll talk. Can't hold you to this. We're just, we just, we just want to talk. Uh, email us ideas for dunk tank, email us ideas for alternative punishments. Thank you. Lauren, thank you. The Kingsman. Louie Louie. You remember that song? You never heard Louis Louis? How does it go? Oh, baby. Uh, it's like the Seahawks are sorry. The Mariners used it for their seventh inning stretch song for like forever. I think they still do. Um, but they're from Portland, Oregon, Oregon. I hate that you adding the gon. Oregon. Like octagon. It's really bad faith. It's very bad faith to have the Oregon. It's not what we're saying. If you're from Oregon, if you're from Oregon and you say at Oregon, like I do, let me know. I want to know if there's anybody or if I'm just like flat wrong. Cause I will say there are people from Washington who say Washington. Well, that's an accent. Just because you're from the state. Right. Isn't that what we're talking about here? It's regional dialect. How about that? Also, aren't there some people who say Oregon? Yes. Yes. Yeah. I can't explain that, but yes. I also don't know that that's wrong. I don't, I don't know. I'm open to the idea that I'm completely wrong. I mean, the fact that look, this is not a scientific It's like, thank goodness. Louis Louis. I definitely know this. Oh, this was, well, this was also the Louis the CK shit, right? That's the intro song for Louis CK's TV show, right? Louis, right? Louis. I think it was a rendition of it. Yeah. Oh, like a cover. He's back for some reason. Let's get into that. Let's fucking, let's dive into that in hour, one and a one and a half hours here. No, no. Jesus. It's good. This is a good song though. It is a good song. Yeah. Hyphens, what do you got, man? What's up? Who you gonna pick at number four? Depends who Craig's taking three. I thought the whole reason is that we were with Let's not kid ourselves. I don't mind if he takes Ty Simpson. I think it's fine. It's like, it's great for everyone. We'll make fun of you at the draft. It's like, oh, no one knows anything. I actually think consensus is bad. No one is out here saying Ty Simpson is a good pick. The history of that, I bet is better than 50 50. Everyone being wrong. Why is it great for you? DK, if I did that, because then I can, someone else will follow me. Well, no, I imagine Hyphens would just take Colonel Tate. I don't think, no, he's saying, I don't know, I'm not saying Colonel Tate will. If Ty Simpson goes before I pick, that'd be great for me. He wants a different one of the good players. He doesn't want Ty Simpson. But you think guys should take Jordan Tyson, DK? Yeah, I think so. I think you should for the sole reason that we had to talk about it for this long. I like him. You have liked, you have loved him the entire time. And if he's good, you didn't get a spot. You have his quarterback. That doesn't really matter to me. All right. It's a nice to have, not a need to have. You're looking for tiebreakers. And I think the tiebreakers are, you love him and you have his quarterback. That's good tiebreaker. And you kind of wanted him anyway. And I don't think you even considered Tate till three days ago. Tate, Colonel Tate. Colonel Chod. I didn't even, I had no idea. That was like the LeBron, that was like a Dwayne Wade Alley. That was incredible. What else? What other slang words am I completely getting wrong? That's what I want. Email us these. I want to know, email us the slang word that there's just completely wrong meetings. Like, okay, that means asshole in parts of Latin America. We've done this in the past. Tyson, what was the thing that you said like blowing a load or something? I can't remember. No, no, it's running train. I didn't know. Oh my Lord. Running train just meant run over by a train. So I said that's what professor about test range. Did he know? Did the professor know? The professor definitely knew. That was bad. That was really good. That's amazing. I didn't know. I just, getting run over by a train seemed bad. Well, seemed like that was sure enough. But whenever you heard the, like when it was said in a sentence, it did not sound like somebody was getting run over by like saying someone. Say it in a sentence, Craig. I won't. I'm confused how you thought that would have meant. Well, look at, look it up on Urban Decay and read this. This was a long time. I mean, all right, this is another example. So-and-so ran train on someone else. How does that make you think they got hit by a train? This was like, this was like 13 years ago. All right. That's valid. That's valid. DK not knowing. I feel like this happens to be all the time of the show. DK didn't know what showed meant till yesterday. And I knew what happened 12 years ago. I knew what it meant to people in my specific, whatever. TVD on that. I think the 12 years ago thing is, is actually makes the case against you because that, that is when you should be in peak slang. As an 18, 19 year old is when you should be the most dialed about sexual slang. Well, yeah. Well, this is survivorship bias. It's the one example that I didn't know and it went really poorly. Also, don't pretend like I'm making this up. Like I Googled it. It said in some regions, it's a fucking slang word. In some regions. I'm not making it up. I'm not weird. I Googled it. I Googled it because I was like this guy on Blue Sky was like, I can't believe, I don't know if you've noticed this, but you said showed and you thought it meant taint. I was like, correct. If you do images, there's a good graph that tells you how it works. Oh boy. Goodbye, everyone. It must be 21 plus and present in select states for Kansas and affiliation with Kansas Star Casino or 18 plus and present in DC, Kentucky or Wyoming gambling problem called 1 800 gambler or 1 800 my reset call 1 888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org slash chat in Connecticut or visit MD gambling help.org in Maryland. Hope is here. 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