Psychology of Change: What to Do When Life Doesn’t Go as Planned | Cassandra Worthy | Motivation | E41

Hello, my name is Tim Story. Welcome to Miracle Mentality. Remember rooftops, drawn spaceships on the ground before. It's for the dreamers, the doers, the believers in something greater. In each episode, I'll invite you to rise above the mundane, to push past the messy, and learn to live boldly in the miraculous. Every episode will have practical wisdom, spiritual insight, and my guests will explore what it takes to activate your miracle mindset. Remember to subscribe, follow, and like. Welcome to the Miracle Mentality podcast. Wow, look at these guests we keep pulling off. Thank you for the team that books my guests, getting so much great feedback from even a lot of friends that I've known over the years, people listening, and sometimes watching on YouTube from all over the world. And thank you guys for helping us to be in the top 10 almost every week since we first came out, usually in number four. But a miracle is something extraordinary, uncommon, not normal, not regular. That's how you're supposed to live with a miracle mentality. A mentality is a mindset, a frame of mind. Today, my guests, Cassandra Worthy, understands miracles, she's needed them, she got some, and she understands mentality, she's one of the best at what she does in helping people's lives. So let me just give you a little bit about her. I say that today's guests truly embodies the message of the miracle mentality. She's a woman who turned disruption into direction and change into her calling. I actually believe she is called. Cassandra Worthy is not just a speaker, she is a movement. She's a founder and CEO of Change Enthusiasm Global, a chemical engineer turned change alchemist who teaches people and organizations around the world how not just to manage change, but to fall in love with it. She works with Fortune 500 companies. She stood on some of the biggest stages and continues to stand on the biggest stages and has written a bestselling book, Change Enthusiasm. How to harness the power of emotion for leadership and success, what a privilege to introduce you to the amazing Cassandra Worthy. Hi, Cassandra. Hello, Tim, it's an honor, it's an honor and a pleasure. Thank you for having me and what up listeners? So we ran into each other in Atlanta. I was speaking for the Aspire Tour, which I've had the privilege of speaking for them for over two and a half years straight. And you were there, which is a big deal because you were mastering your own stages all around the world. It was nice to connect to you there. I had heard of your work for a long time. It's good to see a woman like yourself out there amongst the people changing lives. But I want to go back to early Cassandra. When you were in grammar school, what city were you raised in? I was raised in a town called Powder Springs. Now, Powder Springs, a lot of people don't know, but I always say Atlanta because it is in Metro Atlanta. So Powder Springs is about 45 minutes outside of the city of Atlanta. It's a smaller area, but it keeps growing because we have a lot of transplants, a lot of folks coming in into the Metro Atlanta area. But yeah, that's where it is. Traditional family or what was the family dynamic like? Was her father around and mother around? How was that? Definitely traditional. So my father has a bit of a military background in the Air Force. My mother is an educator, so she's actually a retired French teacher. Don't ask me to speak it because I don't even know. At one point I told her, look, I want to learn the language because you speak it beautifully and it sounds incredible, so I want to learn and immerse me in it. That lasted for about an hour. And I'm like, it's too much. I will stick with Bonjour. But she's an educator. Education has been very, very important in our household. Has always been. She learned that greatly from her own mother, from my grandmother. And then I have an older sister. I have an older brother as well as an older half brother. So I am the youngest in the family. For a long time they tried calling me the baby, but I was adamant. I think from the time that I was three, you will not call me the baby because babies cannot walk, they cannot talk, and I can do all of those things. I have always been very strong-willed. I have shown that from a very young age. So as a therapist that I am and a life coach of over three decades, I think many times there's like a thread that goes through somebody's childhood into the adulthood. And one of the threads that I see is the structure that you have. Where did you start to learn that structure? Is it coming from your military father? Is it innate or is it a hybrid of being taught? And it was innate. I think it's more innate, honestly. And it might be something that was taught by my father. So he's also was a professional plumber and he's actually also recently transitioned on. So his life form exited his vessel just recently last year, late last year in October. But he spent his life as a professional plumber. And so he was very, very structured in his thinking. I'm a chemical engineer by trade. My sister is an industrial engineer. And so I have always had a very structured mindset that's fueled by a lot of curiosity, always curious about how things worked, why things work the way that they did. And so I've had a very curious mind and always wanted to break things down and wanna understand why they work the way that they did. And so perhaps that's something that was learned, but a lot of it is also quite innate within me. Okay, so when you start to develop the skill set of leadership, obviously a lot of people who get into the field that you're in and I'm in, you'll start to study the titans of leadership, how they taught leadership, whether it be the Ray Dahlio's of life or others. Who did you start to study that you respected their work in the area of leadership because you become very, very good at leading companies. Who were some of the people and who are some of the people that you look up to? Honestly, I started studying in the people that were around me, the ones that were closest to me, my own leaders, my own managers, the first manager that I had when I first started working in corporate. And I was so grateful that my corporate career started in earnest when I interned for Procter & Gamble. And that's where I went on and built the majority of my corporate career was at P&G. And so that's where I learned so much leadership. And P&G is a corporation that really, really builds from within. And so there were so much leadership programming and so much building that happened within the walls of Procter. And I learned so much from those managers. And so it was a lot of modeling and role modeling that I did from those leaders. My very first manager when I started Full Time, his name was Ken Raderman and Felicia Jevitt. Those were my very first managers and I learned so much from them. And I'll always remember those first years. So that's how I learned, right? I learned what I wanted to do. I learned what I didn't wanna do from those folks. And I think we learn so much from those that we get to be in touch with each and every day that are guiding us in our day to day. If we're to break down what you're up to now, you've written an amazing book that we'll dialogue about. You also are on a lot of stages, mastering stages. You're so needed for your ability to communicate and your message is so needed. Your executive life coaching companies, cultural coach, people manager, give us a couple of other things that you're up to presently. So my work now, I say it's at the intersection of change and emotion, right? So I talked about my corporate career, being at Procter and Gamble. My career was riddled in going through a lot of change, predominantly acquisition, right? So I faced that type of change that you feel like walks into a room and pops you across the face and you did not ask for it. And you're laying on the ground and you're looking up at the ceiling and you're bleeding and you don't know why, why did this just happen to me? I didn't ask for this. And you're feeling such fear and frustration and anger and anxiety and why, right? And so I had to understand how do I deal with this and see it as the opportunity that it is? And what do I do with all of this emotion that I'm experiencing? And what I have been taught in going through my corporate life is that, yes, these emotions are here, but they're going to get in your way as you were leading your employees. They're gonna just slow you down. So get them out of here, leave them at the door, talk about them when you're at the bar, talk about them when you're maybe at home, talk about them with your spouse, talk about them with your kids or whatever, but don't talk about them at work, right? Cause they'll get in the way. We need to be efficient. We need to be stoic as a leader. And I realized that is wrong because whether you're talking about them or not, they're going to exist because we are emotional beings, right? And so I recognize I need to figure out what to do with these things because it's data. It's informing me things that I care about, where there's tension in my team, where there's tension in the organization, where there's opportunity to learn, where there's opportunity to grow, where there's opportunity to figure something out and even boost our level of efficiency. And so this thing, this change enthusiasm that I've created was something that I used to serve myself so that I could get through those acquisitions, so that I could move my team through those acquisitions. And so it's something that I created first to serve me and then I realized this is something that I could bring to the masses. This is something that I could use to help somebody else struggling just like I did moving through so many acquisitions. And so it was kind of this culmination of recognizing- I loved that. And feeling this pull that there's something more that I meant to do in the world than just leading innovation and corporate. And there's this thing that has served me so well that I know that I can bring to others. And so it's become this company, right? This corporation where I'm now moving organizations, we are moving organizations out of this realm of change management that we've been in for decades. And it's almost teaching the suppression of emotion when moving through change. And we're elevating and evolving to change readiness where it's not these tools that you get off the shelf when we're going through an initiative that we think is linear with the clear beginning and middle and an end, but rather it's how are you teaching and training change readiness all the time every day so that your employees and yourselves see change as an opportunity and constant change as your competitive advantage. And you want more, less go. So that's what we're doing, right? We're teaching mindset skills, tools, and bringing all that to life all over the world. And it's exciting, it's exciting work. Yes. And I like this term that you have emotional chemistry, emotional chemistry. So if you were to break that down, emotional chemistry, what does that mean to the listener? Well, I call it the chemistry of change, right? It's the chemistry of change. It's this feelings that are inspired when you're moving through change that are inevitable. And it's what do you do with it? And I often talk about the alchemy of it. How do you transform it and what do you do with it? Because it's going to exist whether you acknowledge it or not, right? And then you talk about the structure, the structured approach to it. It is not just fluff that we talk about. And it's so often when I talk about the work, when I talk about the emotions of change, a lot of times I get eye rolls. And a lot of times you get soft skills, blah, blah, blah, fluffy, fluffy, fluff, woo, woo, we don't need it. We need hard data stuff. This is hard work, change and transformation and digital and AI is tough. Emotion is data, right? And this is a stepped pragmatic mindset process. When you fill the fear, this is a signal, it's data, right? That's the first step, recognize it, have awareness for it. There are tools that we use to recognize that. And then you move into the second step, which is about that opportunity, right? What are the things, what are the choices that I have? What are my options? And then what are choices that you can make? That's where the alchemy comes in, right? The choices that you make to transform fear into intrigue. What could I do to start to move fear into a bit of curiosity? What could I do to move this feeling that I'm having? So that's what it's about. It's about moving the energy, recognizing it, having some awareness and then alchemy's in it, right? Transforming it a little bit. It's not moving all the way from anxiety to huge excitement and enthusiasm because I just got laid off, hooray! But it's about getting curious. Layoff has happened. What might be my next step? What might I have a little bit of interest in and working in next? Or might I just grant a little bit of grace? Can I just take a week? Let me just take a week and breathe. Let me give some grace to myself to reflect, right? It's just that little step. So the way I would teach it is similar to you that when we are in a change mode, we have to grow from education, conversation and observation. Education to understand what's going on and why we're changing. There's a Bible verse, Hosea 4-6, it says, my people perish for the lack of information. So education, conversation is us dialoguing like this. I think that people need to have really good conversations. The third is observation, and that's watching that other people have gone through it in the past. So what would you do with this idea of even education? Why is education so important when it comes to even preparing for change? Because I love what you talk about in the preparation for change. Yeah, and a lot of it, as I think about education, it's about knowledge and gaining that knowledge. And so much of this concept, this idea of change enthusiasm that I've created, it's around self-awareness. It starts with you. It starts with you. And that education is that self-education. And I think so many of us, especially those of us who have continued to climb that ladder, who have continued to get higher and higher in our levels of leadership and our levels of responsibility, have forgotten to learn about ourselves and educate ourselves on us, notably our emotional bodies. And so I so often think about education as it relates to our emotional bodies and as it relates to how do our emotions show up within us? There's a tool that we use in our education, in our curriculum, in our certifications, called an emotional wheel. And it's different elements, different emotional language, and how do these emotions show up in me? What does this signature look like? What does frustration look like? What does overwhelm look like? What does fear look like? What are the physiological cues? What does that show up like in my body? The more educated you are, how that looks in your body, the quicker that you can have the awareness that it's present, the quicker you can respond to it and reflect and then do that alchemy. And it's something that I call that emotional processing speed. And it's a matter of responding versus reacting. And the root of that is what you say, it's education. Education on you. I wanna tell you a story about my uncle. My uncle, when he was 53 years of age, he was working for a company called American Can. And he'd worked for that company since he was 20. So that's 20 to 53. That's a long time. And they let him go. I'm trying to tell you, from 53 until he passed in his 80s, he was never a happy man again. And I was only a kid. I was probably eight, nine years of age. And he used to say, Timmy, I can't believe they let me go. They let me go. They let me go. They let me go. So he was stuck on that one thing that American Can fired him at 53, feeling like they did not want to honor him as a person that was headed towards retirement. And he could never break through that. Now, so if you were working with a executive like him, cause he was an executive at American Can, what would you say to him to be able to bounce back according to the system that Cassandra Worthy teaches? So he was sitting in unhappiness because of this thing that he believed happened to him. And he couldn't get out of this pit of this has happened to me and this is the place that I'm in and I will stay in my unhappiness. Yes. This thing that I offer is I would bring his awareness to the fact that he is choosing this unhappiness. And the only thing that I would know to do is offer him back his agency to choose something different. So what I so often offer is of course my own journey and the fact that I went through an acquisition and that I had been with Procter & Gamble for 12 years and I was at the point where I had mapped out my journey with this company for the next 30 years knowing I was gonna retire with him and mapped out my salary curve. I knew what I was gonna be making when I retired the different countries I was gonna be working in. So excited, I love this company. And then here comes the news, you're about to be acquired. You're gonna be working for Warren Buffett and Berkshire Hathaway. What? No, no, not me. No, all these other people will go with me. Y'all know Cassandra and P&G, we like this. That's not going, right? And so then I had already started practicing this thing. I did not have language forward to know it was change enthusiasm, but then I realized I always have agency. This thing has happened and I can either choose for it to see it as it happening to me or somehow see it as happening for me. If I choose the lens that has happened for me then how has it happened for me? How has it happened for me? I am able now to go into Berkshire Hathaway and learn being a part of a Berkshire Hathaway company, learn how to stand up a business within a Berkshire Hathaway portfolio, learn being a part of this standup, being a part of doing that. Who gets to do that in their career? I now get to move back closer to home. So many things that I get to do because of this transition and I had agency to choose all of that. And so what I would offer that gentleman is his agency back. You have a choice in this. Of course you can choose your own happiness. You can choose that. It's absolutely your choice, but you also have the opportunity to choose how this is happening for you and to choose to transform that emotional signature into curiosity, into anticipation, into hope. You always have agency. I'm believing that you're enjoying this podcast, The Miracle Mentality. And so the best way to help other people, it's to share it with a friend, a family member, or even a colleague. We work hard on getting the right types of guests that will make your life go from the mundane, the messy, the madness into the Miracle Mentality. Don't forget, your mindset is yours to set. So make sure and share this with someone else. And then tag me at Tim Story Official. That's Tim Story Official. Thank you for making this one of the most listened to and watched podcasts out there in the world. And guess what? Get ready for miracles to come your way. So in life coaching, so many CEOs like I do, most CEOs will last for a season. They will not usually stay for a lifetime. And when I'm walking through the season of change, most of them have a little bit of anger, a little bit of bitterness. Of I gave everything for the company. I even skip vacations, it challenged my marriage, it challenged my health. And I can't believe they're making a change, right? So because I come from an optimistic point of view, many times, mostly in my youth, I would always say, well, you know, something better is coming, something better is coming. But now I've come to realize it's not something always, something better, it's just something different is coming, something different is coming. And different is okay still, right? Help me work through this, because I'm sure this is good for the listener, because every listener in 2025, they went through something that they thought would last longer and it did not. Could be a relationship, could be a job, could be a friendship, a marriage. So maybe it's not always something better, but something different. Tell me why even different is good. Well, here's the beauty. That label, bitter or better, we get to place it. You put it on there. Different is something that anyone can see. You're clearly doing something different. You clearly are working in a different company. You clearly are not dating this person anymore, you're clearly dating a different person. That's a different face with a different name. You, through the lens you're looking at, can say whether that person is better or not. You get to place the label on it. You get to say whether it's better for you. That's the beauty of it. I say, you know, that precipice of bitter or better. I say that at almost every single one of my speeches, because that was sage counsel that I got, very young in my career, and it was the seed that was planted that birth of change enthusiasm. But honestly, it is the lens that you look at your reality of that you place whether it's bitter or better. Whether it is something that is moving you in the direction that you want to go in, or it's something that you just don't want. And like I said, it's not a matter of whether it is something that needs to be the absolute best. But it's like, to your point, if it's just something that's moving the needle slightly, and in your mind, it is slightly better. And yes, it's different. But for me, this different is a little better. Okay, I wanna dig in a little deeper on why we're creatures of habit. But first I'm gonna give you some illustrations, okay? At this stage of life, you have a lot of groups, like earth, wind, and fire, but they're missing some of the main characters because they've passed on. If you go see the temptations, it'll be like one temptation and a bunch of almost temptations. Okay? Glad it's night in the pit. Little bit glad it's night in one pit. And the ips, yeah. You go see the Jackson, the Jackson Five, they're gonna be like three Jacksons and missing Michael. All right, now. Yeah, I got you, I got you. People don't like that. People do not like that. Because they want nostalgia. They want the Jackson Five with Michael. They want earth, wind, and fire with all the fire. Okay? So I think that's one reason that people get bothered about change. They're like, when I used to go to the airport, Tim, I walked up first class, there was somebody waiting for me. Now I got to punch in my own stuff. I don't like that. How do we get past this idea of this is the way it used to be? Earth, wind, and fire used to have all the people that brought the fire. How do we adjust to change? How do we adapt to change? Will we realize change is just part of life? I think about those who are going through a lot of change. And so often, there are those that sit through and feel that level of comfort. Feel that level of situations that are used to sitting in an environment where they just sit in comfort. And then when change comes, they feel discomfort. They feel the fear, the frustration, the anxiety. And that's the real that happens, right? When you're sitting on that edge of growth, when that fear, that frustration that hits, and the beauty that happens with constant change, and that's the real life, right? That constantly it's happening. And I believe the pace of change, because change is consistently accelerating, is this neuroplasticity that's happening for all of us. And it's when we feel that level of fear and that frustration accepting that emotion and allowing that to exist. And it's the growth that happens when that's there. And allowing that emotion to propel us forward in our own personal growth and our development. And it's allowing us to feel that fear, feel that frustration whenever change exists to embrace it and know, okay, the fear is here, the frustration, the anger, the anxiety. It means that I am ready to grow. It means that I'm ready to develop. It means that I'm ready to grow to the next better self, right? And it's my choice to extend, to grow and become better. Let's talk a little bit about your last book, Change Enthusiasm. How did you end up coming up with the title of that book? Ah, the title of that book. So, you know, I knew that I was gonna be in the niche of change, just because I had been through these major acquisitions when I worked as a chemical engineer, then as an innovator, then as an executive and corporate. And I knew that I was struggling and being challenged by going through acquisition and going through major change. And then I spent some time striving to understand how those around me saw me as my natural gifts and talents in the way that I showed up. And they saw that my energy and the way that I presented myself was one of my natural gifts. And a lot of it was my own enthusiasm, right? And I saw that as a natural gift in the way that I showed up in the world, my energy, my enthusiasm, the way that I showed up in rooms. And so I'm like, all right, enthusiasm, that's one of my natural gifts. I live and I vibe and change, change enthusiasm, change enthusiasm. Then I Googled that. And there was such white space, there was one hit that I saw in Google of someone that showed up in Norway, but it was massive white space. And so I'm like, I'm gonna trademark that. And that's where it was named. And that's what I grew from change enthusiasm. That became kind of the trademark. That became the mindset. That became the name of the book. And then that became the foundation of change enthusiasm global. I like that. How would you teach somebody to grow in enthusiasm? Like, I know if you told a five year old, he's going to Disneyland in three days, he would get enthusiastic. If somebody is told who likes sports, you got tickets to the Super Bowl, they would get enthusiastic. How do you get more enthusiasm? Enthusiasm, the more that I've learned about this, and this is something I've been teaching for over seven years now, the Greek mythology or the derivation of enthusiasm is Enthios. And it is divinely inspired, right? Enthios is the divine inspiration. And so as you think about enthusiasm, it is the inspiration of emotion that drives you and fuels you moving forward. And so as you think about enthusiasm, it is allowing the emotional energy within you that is infinite, that you will always experience that as a part of you, how do you recognize that emotion, transform it to fuel you forward? And so the change enthusiasm mindset is one that is cyclical, that has those three steps of signal, of opportunity of choice, and the more that you practice it, you eventually will find the enthusiasm that will lead you as you move through change, right? Transforming eventually fear and frustration and anxiety to find that enthusiasm within you, right? And so that's where you find enthusiasm through the practice of this mindset, right? The more often you practice it, and I've been practicing it for over two decades, I still feel fear, I still feel frustration, but the more I practice it, the more times I can eventually feel enthusiasm, big changes coming, and I can feel that lit up within myself. So I've read the book by Robert Eiger twice, The Ride of a Lifetime, that I saw the interview that he did with my good friend, Oprah Winfrey. He's a former CEO of Disney, and he talked about losing enthusiasm so many times because he was in the midst of crisis, that many times running all forms and parts of Disney, he felt overwhelmed, he felt unprepared at times. I really liked his honesty in this book that he wrote, and all the interviews that he's giving. So if you were coaching a Robert Eiger during his time, where he was not feeling in theos, which you do not know that I can write Greek and speak some Greek from my seminary days to get a doctrine in world religion, I needed to do that. Beautiful. But I love that you know that word. But how would you coach Robert Eiger to stay in theos, to stay in that enthusiasm when he was being challenged from every side? I would coach him really into the three steps of change enthusiasm, right? And I would welcome into the wide array of the emotional spectrum of his human being. It's not just about always striving to find excitement. It is around him embracing all of the emotional energy that is vibing through his human entity. So like I said, that first step, which are those signal emotions? And allowing that body to feel those emotions, when he feels frustration, when he feels overwhelm, when he feels intrigue and curiosity, what is that emotion pointing him to? What is that leading him towards? And then what are his moments of opportunity? What is it pointing him towards? What is that curiosity for him? What questions does he have? What is it pointing him towards? And then what are those choices that he can make? And like I said, it's a cycle. It's a cycle. And the more cycling that he does, it's so often that he can find that in theos, that he can find that inspiration, that he can transform that emotional energy to fuel him forward one foot over the other. That's what change enthusiasm is. It is transforming emotional entity into fuel to propel you forward. That's the magic of the mindset of change enthusiasm. Cassandra, I'm gonna give you three words. Intimidated, frustrated or motivated. Cassandra, that's where I see a lot of people that I talk to, they talk about how they're intimidated, by how life is, how it's changing. Some are frustrated because they don't know how to onboard themselves to the new way of living. But some are motivated. In your opinion, why is motivation so important to move forward in this world? Ah, motivation I think is so clutch. I think having that level of motivation, there's a certain drive and there's power and there's fuel that helps us put that one foot over the other. I think motivation is something that can drive us, moving forward and can push us to that next phase of life. And I think it helps us move against the grain that might be pushing you in life. And I think motivation is key, it's clutch, it's so important. And I strive to find motivation in my own personal journey in my own life, whether it be the business that I lead, my own personal journey and my relationships, motivation is clutch, it's so important. I like how you say that, motivation is clutch. I'm telling you. I buy into that. Okay, this idea of change is so, so important, so powerful. I've done a lot of research as have you, I'm sure, on Carol Dweck on the growth mindset rather than the fixed mindset. And I find that a lot of people in their 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, they don't really want to change certain things. They don't want to change certain things. We become creatures of habit, okay? So you've given us some good insight of why change is important. It actually grows you, it evolves you, it develops you, right? But tell me one thing where people can be just stuck and atrophy if they're not willing to change. Tell them why you have to change. Gosh, I see change as being inevitable. And I honestly believe that whether we're thinking about change in a corporate context, as you think about your work, as you think about the company that you're in, or in a personal context, as your own personal evolution, change is not episodic and change is not linear. Change is a journey and change is inevitable. I think that's something that we all need to embrace as the truth, as the truth. And I think that it's something that we need to embrace as a constant, as a constant. And I think that if that's something that we need to embrace as a truth, then think about how you employ your mindset, the lens through which you view your reality and the constant change to move through your journey, right? What is the lens that you choose to view your reality as you face constant change? As you face the journey of constant change? Know that change is not an episodic, linear thing. It is a constant journey. And 2026 and beyond, change will continue to accelerate, right? So what is the lens through which you will view your reality? So good, so good. I have two more questions. So I'm talking to the Cassandra Worthy. She wrote an amazing book called Change Enthusiasm. So I would like to know, how can we equip ourselves for change, for new directions, for a pivot? How can we equip ourselves? I'm going to give you an example. I have many types of friends. I spend time with people that are much younger than me. I spend time with people my age, people that are older than me. And a lot of people that are my age, they're talking a lot about the change of age. Like Tim, can you imagine that we are this age now? And it's not like other people have not aged before us, right? We have roughly 8 billion people on the planet now. And they all had to change and grow older. All the billions of people that have gone before us, they had to change. They had to grow. They had to evolve. They had to transition. But how can we equip ourselves for the realities of life changes, like even aging? Let's talk about aging and change. That's a big one. It's a huge one. And Tim, it is something that I have grown to learn. I just hit 44 last year, 45 this year. As a woman, I am learning paramedipause. And holy moly. So at this intersection of change and emotion where the company lives, there are four elements for pillars. And the answer to the question is the areas that we bring. How you equip yourself is the mindset that you practice. I talk about the lens. That is the mindset. The work of Carol Dwyck, this growth mindset, the lens, the perspective. That is what you equip yourself with. What is the mindset that you want to practice? What is the lens you want to look at your reality in your life? That's one. The second is the skill set. What are the skills you want to embody? What do you want to role model? What do you want to practice? Skills that we bring to life is the way you communicate. Your authenticity, your agility, the way that you step outside of your comfort, your gratitude, your sense of appreciation when you move through a lot of change. So these skills. The third one are your tools. What is your tool, kid? I already talked about this emotions wheel. There's a lot of tools that we bring to life in our time. So what are these tools that you're using as you move through change? And the fourth one, which is so clutch, which is so key, something that I am really learning and practicing as I move through, pair, menopause, is community. Who are the people that you surround yourself with as you move through constant change? Who are the people that you lean on, that you nurture, the conversations that you have, the ones that you can lean on, your confidants, who is the community that serve you, support you, that you support when you go through constant change, evolution, and transformation? Those are the four ways that you support yourself, that you support each other, your areas of capability, mindset, skill set, toolkit, and community. That's what change, enthusiasm, global is all about. That's the work that we're doing all around the world. And that's why you're the best at what you do. That was fire. I need a fire extinguisher now. All right. Cassandra Worthy, last question. Whole different topic than what we've been talking about. I have a movement called Lead With Love that is going all over the world. I've been now to 82 countries of the world speaking to crowds as high as 85,000 at one time. So I bring teams of people. We have these amazing seminars on leading with love. So the question is, what does it mean to lead with love according to you? What does it mean to lead with love or to lead with compassion? And your answer can be a little bit short. What does it mean to lead with love? My work is at the intersection of change and emotion. To lead with love means to recognize and have emotional self-awareness and to embrace the emotional awareness of those around you and to include the emotional energy when you're leading through great change and transformation. And to embrace emotion as data and to harness the power of that data as guideposts and fuel to move humanity forward as we accelerate into the future. I think truly that's what it means. So wonderful. All right, Cassandra, best way for the listeners and the viewers to follow you would be what? Hit me up at Cassandraworthy.com. Find me on LinkedIn, Cassandra Worthy. You're interested in what Change Enthusiasts and Global does. Go to ChangeEnthusiastsandGlobal.com. Y'all find us. Hit me up. Let's talk. Thank you so much for being you. Thank you so much for the value that you bring to this world. Thank you so much. To all you that are listening today and all you that are watching today, I wanna thank you for doing that. Thank you for liking, subscribing and telling friends. Continue to tell friends. This is not just a regular podcast. As you know, it is a movement. Thank you for watching me on REACH TV, literally all over the world. As I'm in 90 airports all around the world, every single day, inspiring people, educating people and tens of thousands of hotel rooms. Why is that possible? Thank you, REACH TV for making that happen. So the Miracle Mentality podcast continue to listen and watch. We are educating you to have a much better year. Life is still good. I'll see you next time. Thank you for sharing space with me on this episode of Miracle Mentality with Tim Story. If today sparked your courage or helped you understand why you're created for success, I invite you to carry that Miracle Mentality forward. Visit me at timstory.com. That story with an EY on the end. Until next time, walk by faith, embrace possibility, and create your own comeback story.